I just got into this game a few days ago and so far it's very good. it satisfies my XCOM 2 craving. I've never seen this game mentioned on here, how's the rest of the game? it has some funny racist references I've noticed sp far
I didn’t care for it. It opens with a trigger warning and the calibers of half the guns are wrong. I didn’t like nu-XCOM either.>t. grew up playing the first two X-COMs and JA2
>>1963170my only gripe so far is the lack of melee options/weapons. I would love to see this game or something similar to it that has some kind of samurai swords, e.g. Katanas or Wakisashis
>>1963160>how's the rest of the game?its fine, enjoy
>>1963217arent melee weapons super op? i played early game so far and Igor kills 3 people alone while all others are useless
Does it have a 1.13 mod yet? If not, I continue playing JA2 whenever the mood comes.
>>1963326not to my knowledge but it's still great regardless
>>1963326There's a Tons of Guns mod that does what it says in the title.
>>1963326Fag
The game opens up in story, difficulty and complexity once a certain event is triggered, it can appear quite simple and "solved" until then but it still is challenging for a first playthrough. If you're experienced in the genre you'd maybe need to bump it up to the difficulty right above normal, I wouldn't go any further than that because the way difficulty levels work is that it gives increasing free moves to enemy units making them bumrush you from across the map, increasing the need for stealth elims. Speaking of which they're not as strong as they were on release, they also nerfed the quick prism scope which is a shame.Ever since they've added Bobby Ray's, running several squads isn't as much of a pain in the ass since you can buy ammo even if the stock rotation is quite slow.In general depending on what you enjoyed about the series in the past it's either just an okay sequel or an excellent one, it still retains what I loved about it which is squad based tactics as a lovable ragtag band of mercs, two strategic layers and 80s/90s action movie influences. Some things are unfortunately streamlined and others are more fleshed out like the interactions with the locals.
I thought the game was great, but some people here bitch about it. I'm on my 5th or 6th vanilla playthrough and still enjoying it and finding new stuff and trying out different merc combos and tactics. My first playthrough I wound up taking the maximum amount of mercs and regretting it because it spreads the XP too thin. It's way more fun to me to just have one squad that synergizes well and then a back up squad of the free guys to hold terrain and train militia and each other. A few people on here seem to really dislike it but I think it holds up to ja2 and expands on what made that game great. One thing I think its missing is a way to perform simultaneous attacks on multiple targets with different mercs at the same time, it would be nice if that got patched in but I think the devs said they weren't going to be updating it anymore. Anyway it's the most fun I've had with any game released in about 10 years so I'm happy.
>>1969086Yes the devs are done with the game, THQ Nordiq (Embracer) owns the IP and Haemimont Games were only contracted to work on it. Still they did an amazing job with the ressources they were given.They've recently been purchased by Paradox.
>>1969205Yeah when they announced it I was expecting a total pos cash grab. I wound up really Impressed with how good the game was on its own but also with how faithful they were to the vibe of the originals. I was really expecting Another turd like back in action, so I hope they keep hiedmont involved somehow with whatever comes next.
>>1970349Honestly I'm content with the franchise being laid to rest, while I enjoyed JA3 (favourite game of 2023) I don't think lightning will strike twice at the same place. They also called back Ian Currie for JA3 and it's doubtful he will still want (or be able) to participate to a 4th game.There's other concerns like flanderization of mercs and some mechanics getting shelved, even if I believe things like Bobby Ray's not making it in on release were mainly due to budget and time constraints.However, since we can't have nice things stay nice forever, I fully expect THQ Nordiq under Embracer to dig up the series' corpse for a last act of necromancy. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.
>>1963160There were a couple of threads on here a few months ago. Don't listen to the naysayers, it's excellent. Been considering a third play thru.
>>1963160I want to make love to Kalyna.
Any good mods for it yet, outside of tons of guns? Considering a replay.
>>1972216>make loveLOL.I always wanted to stick my dick in Livewire's mouth. Just to get her to shut the hell up.
>>1973881it's understandable wanting to facefuck the paki slutstill, she doesn't even compare to the hololwifeincredibly cute girl + you give her a scoped silenced M24 and she deletes armoured enemies from across the map 10/10 Kalyna is perfection
>>1972278I don't think so sadly. All depends if there if some autist over at Bear's Pit working on something but those guys are probably getting old, who knows if they're still playing vidya.
>>1974276I would take something as simple as higher quality models for mercs and better weapon rigging (mercs have foregrips rest in their palm, looks retarded). Some models need a rework too ideally, Scully looks like a complete caricature of a random Aussie from a Land Down Under music clip when he's always been a professional even if a womanizer.
>>1974276>>1972278I wish there was a way to blacklist all the shitty custom mercs with AI sloppa portraits, those pollute the workshop so much you can barely browse it to discover new stuff.
>>1963323i hate melee weapons being amazing in every gameif they were so good the army wouldn't rely on guns
I HATE FIGHTING UNDERGROUND I HATE FIGHTING UNDERGROUND I HATE FIGHTING UNDERGROUND I HAVE NO COVER AND THEY KEEP SHOOTING FLASH 40MM GRENADESI HATE FIGHTING UNDERGROUND
Any tips on what guns to use with Vicki for akimbo? Electronic chips are rare and don't wanna waste them on useless upgrades.
>>1969086>a way to perform simultaneous attacks on multiple targets with different mercs at the same timeYou can actually sorta already do this, but one has to be a melee stealth kill and the other a ranged attack. Set up the melee kill and start moving toward your target. When he's about 1-2 tiles away, pause and set up a shot from the ranged merc. Both should go off simultaneously. Works wonders for paired up enemies. Shadow and Mouse make a great duo for this.>>1982827The Glock 18s. Vicki's talent makes them +7 damage per bullet with the burst fire. Otherwise Desert Eagles.
>>1983619>>1969086You can do 2 stealth attacks even with ranged mercs as long as you're quick about it. Pause the game, aim the attack with the first merc, then order the shot which unpauses the game and quickly select the other merc, hit 1 to start aiming and rapidly right click to aim however many times you want then left click. It requires fast timing, but it's doable. It also makes it so that only one of them starts combat with some AP spent.
starting my first playthrough now, is this team good enough? did i take too many of them?
>>1988627You didn't make a custom merc at IMP?
>>1988627Good team, Thor is a bit on the expensive side but it'll be fine if you're efficient. You will be getting a cash injection soon-ish, after that you'll have to loot diamond briefcases or capture mines but unless you fuck around you won't be in the red.Steroid's active skill is a meme, don't bother. Train his AGI when possible.
>>1988629i forgot my password
>>1988629I think you only get the IMP mail with password after you capture Ernie.Protip: always max Wisdom when creating an IMP.
>>1988636oh good to know about the cash
>>1988637>>1988638No you can make an IMP right off the bat. Source: I did it myself. There's really no reason not to, one-time 7k payment for a permanent merc that does whatever you want it to.
>>1988644hes free but in theory he will always be inferior to mercs cause they dont let you pick special skill
>>1988647That's easily offset by the fully customizable stats. Max out leadership and wisdom and you have solved the issue where no one brings affordable high leadership cheaper than Raider who's not exactly cheap, and it also makes your IMP able to easily train any stat due to high wisdom.
>>1988627you already have his apostolic majesty Barry Unger, you're in safe hands
>>1963160Damn. Reading this thread really makes me want to play this again.
love this mad bomber like you wouldn't believe
One of my only complaints with the game is the roster (from a statistical standpoint--I enjoy them as characters). The lower tier mercs are far too good (Barry and Livewire somehow being both the best and cheapest in their specialties), and outside of a few ringers like Ivan, Vicki, or Shadow there's not much incentive to ever trade up to the higher tier mercs who are usually far more expensive and with questionable Perk selections.
>>1992777I've noticed that training mercs also seems to be much faster in 3 than in 2, and you don't really get much of a penalty for idling compared to 2 where loyalty drops fast and the helicopter guy stops helping, so grabbing cheap high wisdom mercs early on is a great investment. I picked Barry, Livewire and MD in my first run without even being very aware of these systems and they all turned out great in the end.
>missed the salesee you on christmas
>>1997046Steam keys for this game are really cheap.
>>1997053Steam key resellers buy keys with stolen credit cards. You can get banned at anytime when using those keys.
>>1997065No, at most you can lose the game, but that's easy to avoid, buy from resellers who have positive reviews, pretty easy to find on gg deals, I bought a key for this game from one of the websites listed there.
>>1997046its -50% on GOG
game should be called suppressed m24 simulator
>>1963160They'll never see me... which is kind of a shame frankly.
>>1998181I don't know why JA3 specifically has spawned so many stupid fucks who think running a perfectly good picture through a put-a-celebrity's-head-on-it-and-send-it-to-the-Uncanny-Valley AI is an "improvement."
>>1998217Imagine getting this butthurt over a cartoon character. Kek! Touch grass pussy.
>>1998181>>1998217>>1998438who is that person? is it really a celeb? i don't recognize her
>>1998438touch pussy you fat pollack
Are are there any good gameplay mods for this? I'd be fine if I could just scale the amount of enemies myself or something. I tried RATO but it was just clumsier to play because I had to remember to constantly assume firing stances and manually cock Tex's revolvers.I shamelessly use mods to let me make however big squads and hire however many mercs I please (because they're so much fun) but it's sorta difficult to balance it.
>>1999670theres one recent mod i found but not sure if its goodhttps://www.nexusmods.com/jaggedalliance3/mods/252?tab=description
>>1998438>Imagine getting this butthurt over a cartoon character
>>1963160So after playing it recently and going to JA2 for comparison i think its ok game but JA3 tone feels way off. The humor, MERCs using civilian clothing and African setting is just not it. Feels like a pastiche of a previous title, i never felt im doing serious military operation against trained soldiers but instead fictional setting where I fight hordes of stupid nogs with red face-paint, voodoo masks and prosthetic legs. Nonsense weapon upgrade system was another thing which it felt very gamey and took away shred of realism i had left everytime i had to interact with it.
>>2004717omryn will fix with mods and elk spit
>>2004717I swear, people just willfully misremember JA2 as Hamburger Hill when it was Commando. Nobody in JA2 wears a uniform! You fight Alabama rednecks and aliens! You make an X-Ray Scope out of a Game Boy!
>>2004780The patrols you fight are portrayed as actual soldiers, for me low res grey shirts, yellow shirts looked way more serious than random rednecks(which you also meet and fight). You even conduct assaults on actual military bases and other facilities filled to professionals. 95% of upgrades you used were attachments you hat to find or buy not some abstracted crafting system where random chip+scrap makes a thermal scope. >Commandoyes the same way modern action movies are shit compared to 80-90's action flicks
>>2004780>X-Ray Scope out of a Game Boyto be fair thats kind of a secret
>>1963160easily the best of the many jagged alliance 2 sequels. you should play jagged alliance 2 to learn why so many different companies have tried to make a game that builds on its legacy. the game that sirtech made in the late 90s is easily the best tactical rpg ever made. jagged alliance 3 is the only one that is good enough that it doesnt feel like an insult to the game that it is inspired by
>>2004780thats kinda what made a lot of tactical video games that were otherwise good games inferior to jagged alliance, they failed to create memorable characters that had and could develop relationships with each other. what other tactical video game even has anything that resembles the carl weathers arnold schwarzenegger handshake from predator? it adds so much to the game
>>2006597they clearly put a lot of effort and soul into JA3, its a bit shame it isnt more known and didnt sell better, guess turn based rpgs is too niche and bg3 was a fluke.
>>1982827Game?
>>1998777Mila Kunis maybe? I would do all sorts of unspeakable things to fox...
>S tier >one of the cheapest mercs because hes pious>great personalityI liked him in ja2 but in ja3 hes even better.
>>2011980Agreed and his shaped charges saved my ass more than once early game. You can kill or severely wound 5 or 6 in one throw while in stealth. VERY satisfying.
>>1963160Just started a 2nd playthru and now remember some things I hated about it. For instance, modding weapons. In my experience it fails at LEAST half the time and not only do you not get the mod but it also degrades the weapon. Even if your mech is 85 or higher! Seriously made me not want to mod weapons at all. Just retarded IMO. Also, trying to find the "sweet spot" to click when looting or talking to NPC's can drive you fucking mad. Overall though, I really liked the game play, story and music. 7/10
>>1963323I really did well with ICE. Know a nigga like that IRL, talks similar, looks the same with the fro.Also Bear and the medical kid forgot the name. They synergise well along with my AIM merc
>>1963160Restarted the game half way because it become so easy it was too boring to progress. Next run maxed difficulty + added option for accuracy penalty when wounded it seemed better at first but now again im at the point i just stealth snipe everything with barely any damage taken (the sneaking in open field during day light next to enemy is so fucking retarded i have no idea how that got past initial patches). The biggest issue with this game besides horrible balance, bad ai, low difficulty in theory COULD be fixed with mods(sadly wont happen cause game and its modding scene is dead) is engagement range, you are basically in face of enemy soldiers from the start of battle, with specific perks i could run from one side of the map to other in one turn, it really hurts tactical choices and gameplay variety.
>>2019090Have you done the underground railroad missions (Dr Gruselheim)? It was added with a patch. I found all of the Nazi supermen enemies pretty darn challenging. Don't even attempt if your mercs aren't at least level 5. Good luck.
>>2019090>Restarted the game half waydid you even get to fight real army or just the basic nogs?>
>Stand against the wall, please.>Mercs, take aim...fire!
>>1963160Good game, one the best games released in the last 10 years. The only thing missing is a french merc
Reinstalling the game since I never finished it. Going to try out RATOs gameplay overhaul and some other shit.Wish there was more mods for generic faceless tacticool mercs instead of dressed up characters
>>2032905>generic faceless tacticool mercs>removing one of the core appeals about JA which has always been merc relationships, banter, and quirksi'll never understand thiswhy not just play a srs bsns wargame if you're gonna yank that part out
>>2033126Because a generation of people have been told that 1.13 is the "true" JA2 and that you should skip the original and go straight to that.
>>2033205but 1.13heads also use character mercs don't they? even importing them from past games in the series. at least i've never heard of this particular "faceless goon" brainrot from them
>Play JA3 in 2023>black lines flicker across screen and my entire PC crashes>abandon it>see it updated recently and it fixed a windows issue>start game>get to merc selection>PC blue screens againYeah fuck this dogshit game, no other game has ever done this to me except JA3
skill issue
And now it appears to have completely fucked one of my PC components, every other game I launch now is at 1fps from the moment they start despite CPU and GPU showing normal usage rate.
Yes, now my GPU is fucking FUCKED and it only shows the CPU integrated graphics. Years of having this PC and the only two times I have EVER had a fucking bluescreen is with Jagged Alliance 3. Fuck this bullshit piece of shit
>>2033737>>2033747>>2033764Odd. I've played it 3 times thru, once on my old PC and 2 more runs on my newer PC with literally no memorable bugs. Sounds like plain old bad luck to me.
>>2029732I thought "Flay" was French. I think that was his name anyway.
>>1963160 I accidentally wasted the hog lady this playthrough before finishing the chatteu la paix or whatever mission. Anyone know how to finish the quest without the witch lady dieing? If not does it effect the end?
>>2041149You let continue There is even a option to ask for money, I guess
>>2033737Are you the same guy as the one on the last thread saying it bricked their PC?
>>2029732I am really dissapointed in guns balance and how equipment appears "in stages". There seems to be very little reason to use anything but few outstanding guns.Other than that game is really good.
>>2041698The staging is odd, especially when I always wind up using uzis from the first tile all the way to the last. Usually keep the rpks as my machine gun the whole way through too.
>>1963170>It opens with a trigger warningFor fucking what?
>>2043546for gun spergs who get triggered over incorrect calibres
>>2043546Its based on racist and sexist 80's action heroes and the devs disavow them but its part of the games vibe
how do you survive that part at the refugee camp? do you just let some mercs die there and move on?
>>2044653Just set up your mercs before you talk to the guy to start the fight. It's really not that hard. It's especially easy if you just bring two teams.
>>2044639>on racist and sexist 80's action heroesBased>devs disavow themBunch of faggots, jesus i yearn for a developer with spine.
>>2044667you start out quite surrounded and by a lot of tanky enemies though. I guess it's doable.
>>2044653Remote explosives can help there if your having trouble. I just usually put it off until my guys are pretty high level and I've got the chatell la paix chokepoint at the North of the middle island locked down and the west of the map is mine.
>>2044653you bring 2 full squads and wipe out place in 2 turns
>>2042457strongest universal gun from my memory is fn-fal which is stage2. other than that threres cobra revolvers, minimi, rpk, dragunov and then sports sniper. other guns migh as well not exist.I really enjoyed how absurdly powerful later mercs are (in addition to broken early mercs like fox, igor and hungarian boomer). raven and lmg overwatch just breaks game. and blood is on his own rank of broken.
>>2044835I like going for the free moves so I keep my guys in light armor with those perks
>>2044653By paying attention to the obvious telegraphed ambush and going "huh, maybe I should bring everyone for this"The ambush by the Fight Club place is way more stressful when you don't know it's coming imo
>>1963160I'm partial on it, it just doesn't have the right vibes that JA2 had which is pretty disappointing
>>2044847I like comboing pistols/SMGs as mobility tools with other guns
>>1997046>buying games instead of torrent
>>2058481>Doesn't buy games he likes>Companies make games for people who actually give them money>"Durr, why only shit games for normies come out now?"I have never understood this mentality.
>>2058481You should just quit being poor.
I just started a new playthrough with a bunch of mods (Stronger enemies, more enemies, unrestrained field xp, more guns and components and better UI). So far so good. I've gone all girls with female IMP (Jack of all Trade), Mouse (Building her for melee stealth), Kalyna (Sniper), Livewire (For her OP personal, gonna try to train her in explosives), Buns (Sniper) and Fox (Middle range dual wield). So far so good, I never used explosives much but this playthrough I am and damn they're useful. Almost feel bad for killing DeeDee for XP and Loyalty now.
>>1975153Workshop really needs a way to hide entire categories, I don't care for new mercs and IMPs.
>>1988647Not necessarily, the skill combination you pick can be unique and make them superior. Like if you pick the CQC and the Stealth shit and then your guy is the gigachad assassin.
>>1998217Too many indians with Internet nowadays, that's what happened.
>>2061140The majority of the people with poor taste AI genmods are german
>>1998217There's a duo of merc mods now with characters from CoD BO/CW as mercs. Full imported character models eith voices and custom skills. Outfits look appropriate for the time period and a nice mix of tactical and action movie unique, plus they actually come with decent equipment for their price. No more elite mercs showing up with a pistol.Surprised there hasn't beenore of an attempt to do the same. Everything is just AI portrait slop.
>>1998217Bitch is unironically mid idk why they gave her such a massive ego.
>>1963160>full auto burst with an Ak47 with every bullet going in does like ~35 dmg, instead of shredding anybody apart outright>"this is le ebin 80ies/90ies macho tropes just like the first games"I had my suspicions about this game, but this confirmed it. Just a bunch of faggy redditors made this game, what a fucking joke and pile of garbage. Also the developers did never play the first two games, they weren't parodies of the 80ies and 90ies. They were made by people that grew up in the 80ies and 90ies and legit talked and thought like that. Maybe they overplayed it a bit here and there, but it was sincere not some postmodern cynical redditor slop, by god do I hate faggots like this>every merc (flanderized to the max btw) needs to have his super special ability >turn on wounds matter (description says its for friendly and foes)>autoburst into an enemy (doesnt kill him)>of course>in old jagged alliance that guy would basically not be able to do anything for a couple of turns despite running a few meters due to stamina being low>he runs with a knife into melee range and gets a hit in>attack him again>"heh, super special ability activated, since you attacked me in melee range, I am going to attack you back with my melee weapon">my merc is now half deadjust pure garbage, dont buy, dont even pirate if you remotely expect the jagged alliance 2 experience. Wait until a few years until some autists recreate 1.13, which wont happen since this game (thank god) is already dead
>>2064983To each his own. I liked it.
>>2064983>just pure garbageYeah, this. I don't need it to be a carbon copy of JA or silent storm or cold zero since I already have those but the arcadey gameplay best described as nucom lite coupled with tiny maps and very few guns that all feel like airsoft really sucks.
>>2064983This verbatim. Its reasonably competent, just not good enough to be worth my time until its JA2 but better.
>>1992777this was my main complain since day 1 and Im surprised nobody did a rebalance/ overhaul mod for merc stats and perks
Just started playing. Is there anything, say, keeping me sitting around and spending the first month training recruit mercs? Is there some hidden time limit beyond income?
>>2072694Trying to avoid spoilers: about 38 days after you secure your first mine (there are a couple of other triggers, but you won't hit them from sitting around) an Event will trigger, and a specific Squad will advance toward a Location. If you do not intercept this Squad before it reaches the Location, you will not be able to complete the Event. If you do intercept the Squad, you can go the the Location later to complete the Event at your leisure (other random squads can enter the Location without affecting the Event, only the one specific Squad matters).There are a couple of time-sensitive quests, but the timer doesn't start until you get the quests. There's also a Second Event, but it's related to the first Event and overall game progress, not strictly time.
>>1971161Seconding this. The hate it gets is completely undeserved. I dare say it's much better than JA2 imo.
>>2072748As a final question, does your I.M.P merc get anything unique during the course of the game? After comparing to the merc lineup, it seems like the only thing they have going for them over the mercs is being able to take Hand-to-Hand and Martial Artist at the same time, being able to take Stealthy and Throwing at the same time, or being a dedicated trainer/leadership character.
>>2072903Right, the IMP doesn't get anything unique, but it sounds like you've already figured out its best uses: Teacher/Leadership (honestly your best bet) or unique Trait combos (Auto Weapons and Heavy Weapons is another good one). Even though the IMP is completely customizable, most other roles are already done better by an existing merc (your sneaking IMP will never be as good as Blood or Shadow, your mechanic IMP will never be as good as Livewire or Vicki, etc). Also remember that after the initial fee, the IMP costs no further salary, which is always nice but especially helpful early on.
>shoot the general at the base when you meet him>he doesnt die and the game doesnt end earlythats a bit sad
Does Mission Impossible hand enemies an absurd amount of free stats or something? I keep fucking up because enemies end up doing things that I don't expect them to be able to do. Like this motherfucker sprinted from here to here, spotted Barry and Fox (they were hiding after killing the Brute), and this motherfucker still had enough AP to chuck a grenade at them.My mouth literally hung open watching it.
>>2073883>My mouth literally hung openYou sure it didn't open in anticipation of you sucking off that grenadier? >dutchessgay ass nigger
>>2073897What the fuck are you going on about?>DuchessBlame Haemimont for not giving me enough space to name her Commodore like I originally intended.
>>2064983skill issue
>>2072759It's a completely different game mechanics wise and only has surface level similiarities
game is currently 50% off, will it go lower in the summer sale or should i buy it now?
>>2075506absolutely worth the price and I doubt it will go any lower
>>2075506It won't go lower
>>2075585thanks for your input mr. shill
>>2076036no problem, nigger
>>2075506It's 100% off if you use your brain and grow a pair
>>2076107no one asked for your useless opinion, turd worlder
Gotta love summer
>>1963160Is it worth getting someone with high STR? I already encountered 2 places with STR checks near first town after tutorial island, my mercs are too weak for it - Fox, Mouse, Livewire, Barry and IMP with 62STR
>>2076457I'd say it's worth it for the inventory space alone. My 89 strength IMP has the one more slot than do combined Fox, Mouse, and Livewire combined out of the box. Melee is also surprisingly good once you get some movement perks. As a side note: I do find the perk layout for the stat to be a bit bizarre though. I don't understand why Ironclad doesn't apply also to cumbersome weapons since those are the guys you'd be putting in heavy armor to begin with. Someone who wants to take Collateral Damage is going to have to eat shit and take two perks that they'll probably never use.
>>2077199I need to fill the final gap, thought about getting a psycho as well, maybe Nails - he has the perk and high STR as well and he likes Fox (well, who doesn't).Also I heard militia is more of a waste of time in this game compared to ja2, is it true?
>>2076457I don't think I've ever kept a high-STR merc just to have high STR, but many good ones do have it anyway. I do remember early on hiring Grizzly for a few days just so he could lift that rock on the West coast though. Depending on your income/time situation, you can also hire Wolf for a couple weeks and have him train everyone in STR.
Huh, Trick Shot ended up being a FAR better than I expected it to be. Unlike normal status effects, the status effects from it still fully apply on grazes.>>2077255My opinion is still tentative because I haven't finished the game, but they seem OK. Even Elites drop like flies sometimes, but having even a single medicore merc on the tile with them seems to drastically increase their efficacy and reduce their loses in auto resolves.
I'm probably missing something but after every fight most if not all my team is wounded and it takes a lot of time (almost whole day) and medicine to heal. Every wound cost like 5 medicine and mercs have several of them, while you can find 2-4 medicine from 1 bush.Next location has 14 enemies in a single squad, so it's safely to assume it will be another day and 60 medicine to heal everyone.
>>2079109give your best marksman a silenced sniper rifle and try to not get shot next time retardMouse should really be popping heads from half-way across the map and taking out patrols one by one before they can respond
>>2079109You have Fox, Mouse, and Livewire's PDA, so you should be banging out stealth kills left and right even if you're playing Ironman. Keep in mind that Fox's unique trait causes enemies to be surprised rather than alerted when she starts combat and refunds the cost of her opening attack. So you could, for example, have her 3 aim snipe one guy, 3 aim SNIPE another, then have a nearby stealthed Mouse knife or snipe the remaining guy when her runs for cover to clear out a group of three silently.Both Fox and Mouse start with ass marksmanshop, so they aren't going to do great in straight up firefights, but their high-ass base dex is enough to allow them to use rifles decently out the box despite it as long as they're aiming, and both will almost never miss in melee or with throwing knives. Mouse especially can make a fantastic stealth+melee or stealth+shotgunner for the longhaul if you're willing to eventually pump up her strength at some point since she comes with solid health, and near capped agility and dex right out the gate.
>>2079109If you're still on Tutorial Island then you're unironically in the hardest stretch of the game due to inexperienced mercs with bad weapons. Good advice about using cover and sniper rifles probably won't help yet. Use Barry's grenades on groups, then disregard cover and basic logic and use Mobile Shot with any mercs with Hi-Powers to run in and shoot any survivors in the chest at point blank range, and then shoot them again if they're still alive due to its low AP cost. Hood rat resources require hood rat solutions.Also that Jill portrait actually fits in surprisingly well.
>>2079113>>2079131>>2079154Thanks for the advices. I love tactical games but kinda struggling with them at the same time, I remember in JA2 it was pretty hard at times as well, can't fathom how people ironman games like these.Livewire maphack is really nice, but here on mainland I wasn't lucky with intel yet, mostly fought without it, I guess intel was randomly chosen for other adjacent sectors.I've got that silenced rifle in adjacent sector, gave it to Fox at first, but she can't land a headshot reliably at all and without it shot isn't lethal, so I gave it to IMP.Barry's grenades are a lifesaver, wish I had hired him from the get go, my squad of 4 almost died against legion counterattack to Ernie, I encountered 8 enemies at the sector with underground bunker. Got Barry right after it to handle mines on the beach, his grenades could have made short work of the legion.
Well, I guess that's what I get for never training her health. One tap to the dome from full health and she's gone. I guess I'm not dealing with Legion jobbers anymore.
Is building destruction in it like Silent Storm?Comparing it to 1.13, one thing I really liked about 1.13 was how between all the gear and shit and the actual personalities of the mercs, you could do full on proper builds.Is JA3 the same (will use mods if neede)Is proper stealth a thing as in, on par with say the Commandos series or is it more like 'use it to get the first 2 soldiers killed since everyone will rush you thenWith buildings, can you do the same shit in 1.13 like supress the main door and blow a wall off and shoot them then?Is the AI actually challenging (again ok with mods)
>>2079371Yeah, I have no idea how they can be so accurate in full auto from half of the map. It seems you're either stealthily kill everyone or get a lot of wounds or potentially deaths.
>>2079377Imagine further simplified low budget nucom with tiny maps and very few different guns but with a ja coat of paint and you'll have a pretty good idea what this game is.
>>2079377destruction is pretty good, you can blow up walls and floors and if your gun is strong enough you can just ignore cover and blast enemies with a .50 cal through a wallstealth is in the game and as broken as you imagine, you can wipe entire maps without starting an alarm and even if the alarm is triggered as long as you get out of sight you can hide again and if they dont find you, you reenter the free roam the AI is ok but hardly challenging, its a turn based game after all
>>2079377You can do a good amount of destruction. At least three times in my playthrough my machine gunner missed someone but still got the kill because they destroyed the roof/platform they were standing on instead, and blowing up walls with pipe bombs and presetup overwatch has been a consistent strategy of mine.Like the other anon said, stealth can be very comical at times. Like shanking someone from like 20 feet away in plain daylight and his buddy just going "must have been the wind" because it's right outside his vision cone. Apparently, the patter of African rain is also enough to suppress the sound of someone getting chopped in half by AK full auto fire right outside a populated building. It's decently challenging but nothing particularly extreme. I'm playing blind Ironman on the max base difficulty setting and am doing fine. I've lost 5 mercs so far. One on Ernie island while I was still figuring things out, one to a shotgunner with revenge, one to Nazi super soldiers, and two during a big spoiler plot event that I wasn't prepared for.
>>2079170>Livewire maphack is really nice, but here on mainland I wasn't lucky with intel yet, mostly fought without it, I guess intel was randomly chosen for other adjacent sectors.If you weren't aware, you can gain intel in your current sector or up to two sectors away by using the Scouting operations from the map. If anything this is better than getting intel from hacking since if you already have all intel within range you're guaranteed to get money from hacking.
>>2080240Thanks, I completely forgot about it. But the thing is I heard there's a time limit of 38 days for some major story event, and I already waste a lot of time for healing, Livewire also has to spend time on fixing weapons but she has the highest wisdom for scouting.
Was aug removed from the lootbox guy in some later patch? I managed to get hk21, m1014 and aksu several times but never aug.
>>2081094Damn, that took a LOT of reloads. I even checked loot-table in mod editor, each gun has the same chance of appearing, but from my experience it's not even remotely like that. Very weird, probably game uses some pseudo-random system.
>>1973942She's the stupiest merc in the entire game though. Like clinically retarded. Even Larry and Smiley have higher wisdom stats.
>>2084650I think merc stats are like easter eggs on each own, Fidel has 1 leadership for this reason.
My kingdom for a "pistol+knife in the same weapons slot" mod.
What do you get from Bobby in early game? I had to order ammo for those gewehr rifles because I ran out of it, but it seems he doesn't have anything useful yet.
>>2086109Very early on, probably nothing because I spent way too much money hiring Shadow too early. But once I get stabilized (probably after taking Pantagruel and Fleatown), mainly I just buy as much ammo (both kinds of 7.62 and maybe 5.56 if I get an early AUG or Minimi) and spare parts as I can, along with any skill magazines. If my looting has been particularly unlucky I might snag a Dragunov or a Winchester.>>2081889I was gonna say it'd probably be easier to just loot one, but it turns out an AUG is actually tier 3 loot, which is crazy since that's the same tier you can get PSG1s.
>>2086143There are 4 tiers of weapons apparentlyhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3014870454And the rarest ARs are g36 and ak74 judging by it.Also I found a galil in Fleatown Boss' mansion, not sure why it's not even in the loot table.
>>2087802I'm pretty sure he just forgot to put the Galil in the list. In my looting experience, it seems to be tier 4. IMO it's probably the best general purpose assault rifle with that huge crit chance, 2nd best damage, and range so good you can put a short barrel on it and it's still got better range than most other assault rifles.
>>2087831It's in the same list as FN FAL apparently, tier2.
>>2087896Really? Well, color me surprised then. Maybe I'm just unlucky.
Man, Thor's talent is rad as hell. He craps out those pills fast enough to almost eliminate downtime in the field. (If you didn't know: use them from the map view and they'll remove the Tired condition.)
How do I play JA2 at a modern resolution without everything looking tiny?
>>2089952set internal resolution to half your full resolution, then full screen the gameFor example, if you have a 1080p monitor, you want the in-game res to be 960x540 and scaling set to pixel perfect centered. This is doable from the Stracciatella launcher options
>>2090474I thought stracc and 1.13 were different versions, can you run them both at the same time?
>>2090697they areno, but there's probably an equivalent procedure
>>2076107Or you could stop being poor.
I started playing Jagged Alliance 2 vanilla, and I still like it abit more than JA3. Idk why
Is there any way to calculate travel time for enemy squads? i want to intercept diamond shipments when I see them but without wasting time idling in the ambush spot.
>>2091821As far as I know no but the game is pretty generous with the intercept "radius"
So anon, any mods you'd recommend?>inb4 play it straight
>>2093570CTH
I'm curious when diamond necklace location is determined, it seems save scumming doesn't work before taking quest, maybe at the start of the run?I checked the same 7 chairs several times but no luck.
>>2093860lamethis is better https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3005453998&searchtext=chance+to+hit
Do you even need a machine-gunner in your team?
>>2100783You don't necessarily NEED one, but I'd highly recommend it since they're extremely effective, especially once you get a merc with Killzone and ideally also Heavy Weapons or Auto Weapons (preferably Heavy Weapons).
>>2100783Cutting down an overwhelming force with overlapping fields of fire is not necessary to win, but it is fun
>>2101966
>>2101966>>2102000You need a lot of ammo for lmgs, I ran out of 7.62 NATO while using it only for gewehrs and galil with short bursts, I was forced to craft some, but again gunpowder is not easily available as well. Bobby doesn't always have powder/ammo of caliber that you need (and it seems he was even added in some patch, so I dunno how people managed ammo before that)
>>1963160embarrassing flandarization of the story, everyone acts and talks retarded and every npc tells stupid jokes 24/7. JA2 might have been a "parody" of 80's action movies but it was still somewhat realistic, wasnt immersion braking and didnt feel like im playing in imaginary country filled with absurd characters and juvenile cringe humor.
>>2102133i forgot to add, its still a decent game DESPITE that but i could be much better if they they didnt fill it to brink with misplaced millennial humor
>>2102139I dunno, I have a chuckle at every Fox's sexual innuendo in dialogues.
>>2102176there are some funny jokes i admit but why everytime i click on NPC who is basically is a slave in a diamond mine he says funny meme line, why is there teenage kid who looks like he goes anime cons selling explosives in middle of warzone, damaging my entire team for fun, why is everyone acting like they are not real people with real problems but wildly unrealistic fictional characters. The tone of that game is so off putting i had hard time enjoying it.
Am I crazy, or are stealth kills made by throwing knives quieter than ones done in melee (as in they don't yell loudly and alert nearby guards)? Or maybe it's knives in general vs. a machete?
>>2102000>somehow nobody get hit by a stray bullet until it's their turnAt this point it looks silly.
what's his fucking problem?
>>2113711Did you kill him?
>>2113716yes but my stealth grenade nuked his sniper rifle
>>2113719Wait, you can destroy loot? I thought it can only happen with crowbar when opening locked containers
did you redpill smiley
>>2114955It's hilarious how much worse of a person Smiley comes off as than the actual mob boss he's trying to rope you into fighting for him. I always resolve the Right Hand Man quest by killing everyone in self-defense, which has the dual advantages of not having to keep Smiley's dumb ass alive through that fight while also denying him the opportunity to reveal how much of a whiny little prick he really is.
>>2113720nta but I have seen loot destroyed and not just by crowbar.
>>2115029Well said.
>>2102097>so I dunno how people managed ammo before thatIt was a bitch.
>>2113719That gun sucks anyway
>>2102176Man, I don't. Every half-baked joke in the game reminds me of when I completed a homework assignment 10 minutes before it was due. I know exactly what happened - there was one writer who had 40 mercs making 40 quips after every line of dialogue, and so he just took the lowest hanging fruit on every single one of them. I feel bad for him.
>>2116845You don't understand the era and you obviously never will.
>>2117528I do, I was there. Today I got to the dump in Port Cacao. There was a cock fight there. A guy said, "my cock is bigger than your cock." I get it. He's talking about his dick. Okay.After that, I had a conversation with some character, I don't remember who. Igor said something about vodka. Okay. I click through a few more dialogue choices. Igor said something else about vodka.Later on, I saw a conversation between Wolf and Fox. Wolf said they should hunt for nuts in the forest. Fox said maybe they'll find melons too. Wolf said he might have the right tool for the job. Okay.I get it. These are all jokes, but none of them are actually funny. They're low hanging fruit that a second grader could come up with.Conversely, I remember cracking the fuck up back in 1996 or whatever when I recruited Ivan and Cyrillic text spewed all over the screen. It was a real gotcha because I didn't expect it at all. "Why is this insanely good merc so cheap? Oh - that's why."At no point have I been blindsided by a joke. Every joke in the game is this boilerplate, "I need to write a joke here because jokes go here." Every joke is a retreat of a joke that they'd previously told, which originated somewhere else anyway. It makes me sad for the people who had to churn this shit out, because it must have been soul crushing.
*Retread
Did you hire your qt tardfu?
>>2119987No, I hired the hagfu (Scope) and Slutfu (Fox). Scope's cookies are OP with some active abilities too.
BOY DO I LOVE EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN ENEMY IN THE ENDGAME HAVING LIGHTNING REFLEXES, REAL FUCKIN FUN GAMEPLAY RIGHT THERE>>2119987I'm more of a Mouse guy. Can you believe she isn't married? A girl that pretty could have any guy she wanted!
>>2123236make a lady imp so you can lezz up and rescue her from her abusive relationship
>>2123340I like the little unopened mystery box of exactly what's going on with Mouse and Stella. Mouse speaks of Stella as if they're still in-contact and together (including that eyebrow-raising comment in her debrief about how Stella doesn't like her having guests), but we never hear from Stella directly and Shadow even asks Mouse point blank if she wants to talk about what happened between her and Stella (which Mouse dodges). Mouse's AIM bio offers dueling speculation that their relationship is fractured or that Stella specifically tasked Mouse with getting back into the merc game to reestablish contacts for an unknown purpose. It's a shame we'll probably never get any resolution.
>>2004717I like JA3 better because I get to kill literal niggers
>>2123757Spare us the spastic larp kiddo
i wish there were a quest to build an item that replicates livewire's pda, like i do a solid for wlad the tinkerer and he makes me a pda gizmo. it's an incredibly useful qol talent but sometimes i don't want her on my run
>>2123766Technically it's an erp, retard-kun
What the FUCK happened to /&tg/'s rentry ? Is /&tg/ even still alive ?https://rentry.org/tactical
made the mistake of hiring fidel, what a flighty fuck. fed him all the kills and he still abandoned ship
>>2115029I mean, you're talking about a man who tried to gun down the priest who saved, housed, and protected him from the direct consequences of his own actions without even giving him a chance to speak. Anyone with any semblance of morality is a better person than him.
>>2130782>Is /&tg/ even still alive ?The vast majority of generals that aren't gacha have been pushed off to slower boards, although I think /&tg/ never moved it just died quietly. As for the rentry I suppose it's autism or discord drama.
>>2131105>he got filtered from /vg/
>>2131105>/&tg/ never moved it just died quietlyIt is better this way, in my opinion. It's a fond memory for me; good times were had. I was the one who made the final OP. Named it after the Star Trek TNG finale "All Good Things..." because I thought it was fitting.>>2130782I don't know. I wasn't the one who made the rentry, but I was in charge of the repo hosted on pixeldrain. Due to how the site works however, the majority of those files are gone. Only 4 games out of like 100 remain that were "viewed" by someone frequently enough to qualify to stay on their servers.pixeldrain dotcom slash l slash bk982HLa
>>2131532At least Wayback Machine has the rentry saved. Pictures don't display but that's better than nothing.
>>1963160It's fine. It's not JA2 but it's also not trying to be.
>>2075506you can get it for 5 bucks at key sites
i wish this game sold well enough to warrant some dlc or spellforce-style standalone expansions. i don't need an upgraded engine, just some new plotlines and maybe a proper character creator for the imp. a very fun and comfy game.
>>2137303There's fan-made campaigns at least. Their mod tools were very robustI haven't checked any out yet, been meaning to
>>1963217maybe Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun? Idk i haven't played it but i remember coming across something similar
>>2137337that's a completely different style of game unfortunately, a real-time stealth puzzler
>>1963160bump
>>2137303I hoped we'd get some sort of iterative sequel using the same engine and general gameplay but with a new setting, more mercs and other improvements, given that that's what the devs had done with Tropico prior. Evidently there was supposed to be some sort of DLC but the whole shitshow with THQ/Embracer led that to being quietly canceled and then of course the devs had to go get bought out by Paradox, so that's that.
