>FTL but 40kKino, sign me up
Playing this has reminded me that I hate FTL's event system. The outcome are random chance so you have no idea if you picked the right option when you fail. It feels fucking terrible to try and learn it blindly.
>>2058302RNG has always been a staple of these types of games.
>>2058302I at least haven't taken hull damage or lost a crew member to a random event playing void war yet.
>>FTL but 40kWhen I read that I thought it would be a game inspired by FTL and 40k. Then I checked it on steam and it is a blatant ripoff which copied the artstyle of FTL and outright traced art from 40k.
>>2058311RNG is only fun through risk management. If you don't know what you're risking then you're just blindly picking things.>>2058354I'm not saying it's bullshit unfair or anything, I'm just annoyed because half the appeal of roguelikes is learning/optimization and having to repeatedly pick the same choices over and over to try and confirm what they do it sucks.
>>2058215It is NOT a 40k game.
>>2058517It's 40k with the numbers filed off. It's not literally 40k but it's very blatantly meant to be 40k.
>>2058215No thanks, I've already played FTL
>>2058376basedthere should be more FTL ripoffs, and I support anyone who steals from Games Workshop
>>2058311There are two types of RNG: input RNG and output RNG. Input RNG generates a situation for you to solve, output RNG randomly decides about the outcome of your action. The latter is less liked by players, because it robs you of your agency, and even considered bad game design.
is the deal for the 40k license so hard that these niggers gotta pull this shit? Shitty mobile cashgrabs could get the license but they can't?
>>2058601Why bother. What lil gedubs timmy gon do against Russian chad?
>>2058302>play multiverse>see blue option>bad outcome happenTurn out sending an engi down on a planet to figure out how to stop a computer virus genociding engies was a terrible idea
>>2058602because the 40k label brings in sale.
>>2058601Nah, they simply don't want to share money with GW if they can avoid it. Also with their own setting they can do whatever they want with units, factions, ships and story. GW would constantly check on them and annoy them.
>>2058601>Shitty mobile cashgrabsPut on your thinking cap a minute.What do shitty mobile cashgrab shops have that bootstrapped, first-time indiefags don't?There are two acceptable answers, both of which are simultaneously correct.
>>2058215I completed one run of Void War so far and although it's a shameless 1:1 FTL ripoff (just not!40k)...it's good? The biggest downside of the game is that it seems to be running with the FTL basic framework, not with the advanced edition stuff. And even though it's atmospheric, I can't shake the feeling that artwork/portraits, dialogues, microlore dumps and even music, are all AI generated. It basically feels like an AI demake of FTL. With all that said, it's fun to play because the original formula is still addictive enough. Take from that what you will.
>>2058683The music is probably the worst part about it, honestly. It's such a blonde nothing track that's barely audible let alone exciting or tone setting.
>>2058548So basically Event Horizon?
>>2058686It's more than that. It's WH40k but what if Emps died and Imperials devolved into factionalism and banditry, a million different renegade cults looking to rip each other off just to survive, while chaos, mutants, demons and aliens run amok across the corpse of the Empire. The lore backdrop is pretty good ngl.
>>2058686Event Horizon has literally nothing to do with 40k. 40k doesn't have a monopoly on the concept of space hell.
>>2058700it has long been accepted that Event Horizon is a "WH40k prequel" set in the distant past. It's a good movie.
Ion weapons are still unmitigated bullshit I see. Also, either the AI "cheats" or various opponents have access to utterly broken abilities that allow them to either ignore systems being knocked out by your ion weapons, or just recover/repair them significantly faster. Medbay also got a serious nerf, or is just weaker than I remember/needs more upgrades to actually do what it's supposed to.
>>2058705>it has long been acceptedOnly by brainwashed 40k drones like you. The director has stated that they were traveling through Actual Christian Hell, not some juvenile fantasy hell parody.
>>2058717>Actual christian hell>Not some juvenile fantasy
>>2058698So the Age of Strife?
>>2058717
>>2058717Complain all you like, but that's exactly the beauty of WH40k and one of it's greatest strengths - the setting is so vast, so all-encompassing and generic enough, that it can adopt any trope, theme or story, and make it work with a little makeup. Want Mechwarrior in WH40k? Imperial Knights. Want Predator (1987) in WH40k? Catachan/Death Worlds. Want Judge Dredd in WH40k? Adeptus Arbites etc. So for all intents and purposes, the Hell dimension in the Event Horizon might as well been the Warp/Immaterium. It's almost memetic.
>>2058548It is objectively and literally NOT a Warhammer 40k game!
>>2058705>it has long been acceptedBy whom? By you?Since when has "scif-fi people finding space hell" been monopolized by 40k? Get your had out of your brainwashed fanboy ass.
>>2058719yeah, pretty much>>2058721lol
>>2058730If you read my message carefully, you can see quotation marks around 'WH40k prequel' part. Ofc the movie has nothing to do with WH40k, but the parallels are obvious and it fits well.
>>2058517>>2058700>>2058717>>2058728>>2058730>seething this hard that somebody calls your 40k game a 40k gamelol. lmao, even.
>>2058601It's very likely GW would have spergouts about not accurately representing Warhammer universe because you only have like 20 crew tops, not 20 million, you can switch guns on the fly >>2058698>>2058721I think it's just meant to be Horus Heresy, sort of Flight of the Eisenstein: The Game. Like, yeah, God-King is dead and whatnot but your goal seems universally to be get to Terra, kill someone over it, jump into Astronomican. I think it even suggests that God-King died but he's now within whatever their name for Astronomican was.
>new space marine 2 patch this month>new darktide class>new vermintide maps>new rogue trader dlc>new FTL gamewarhammer fans eatin good, I cant hold all of this fun
>>2058742Yea... now that I think about it more. It's more Horus Heresy lore.
>>2058742dunno, I'm really digging the alt-lore, it's like a "WH40k...What if?". It's good
>>2058517It's Conflictmallet 40 Dozen
Even if this is traced or AI slop, it ain't half bad
>>2058796
>>2058757I really like the ships because I look at them and very clearly see what they're referencing, but it's not 1:1.
>>2058683was this made by chaptermaster's devs? the ui feels so familiar it's uncanny
>>2058921Made by three Chinese randos.
>>2058757>it's like a "WH40k...What if?"So like the modern GW fluff?>It's goodMaybe not then.
Just cleared difficulty 5 with the relic ship that starts with three poison gas guns. I was really racking my head trying to figure out a way to win with such shitty guns but it turns out selling them and going all in on boarding and psychic powers was the way. Saved up all my dosh to buy that commander who's immune to suffocation, no demon will be safe from me now.
>>2058983Fucking hell, it goes up to 5?
>>2059070No. It goes up to 12.
>>2059072Guess I should start bumping it up then. I was sitting on 2 since I was just looking to unlock stuff instead of suffering CBT but if it goes htat high then 3 probably aint as bad as it implies.
>>2059083Oh, it is CBT on the higher levels.
>>2058215My few, quick takes so far>Art looks like touched up AIslop, but it does it's job at creating edgy atmosphere>Music is utterly forgettable and boring>There are a lot of cool QOLs like recalling all your crew from enemy ship, being able to see enemy weapons, being able to select a room where to install a system and other stuff like this. It feels like FTL with fixed random things that annoyed devs of this game while playing FTL>Crew no longer levels up, is cheaper and more replaceable>There are shitton of summons too>There are tons of unit types within few factions as opposed to FTL where you just had a handful of species>You can control a lot more units in general than in FTL where you only had 8>All of this means that you are encouraged to send people/creatures to enemy ship and often fight to death, fittingly for a grimdark atmosphere>But there is actually a ship Captain, he is your main character and if he dies you lose the game. There are few classes and you select them separately from ship>Healing is harder than FTL, since medbay and various powers or tools like medpacks have charges you have to spend during particular fight and they won't recover within this fight. I really like this>Boarding is different from teleporting in FTL since you can only send your pod to the sides of an enemy ship and have to fight your way through. Imo it's better like this too>Missiles have a separate slot from ship weapons and work different with you loading a template>Units have equipment now like armor, weapons and tools >There are psionic powers too>I don't like how there is no fuel, and how traveling within the region is just moving forward, but at least you aren't chased anymore>I have not found any Xenos yet, it's only various Imperial and Chaos factions>Events are boring and too simplistic I think>On other hand writing is properly edgy and I like descriptions of various units, but story somehow is worse than in FTL and your goal feels random.
>>2058721Talk about btfo
>>2059232It simply cannot compete with FTL and all those mods it has by now. Game is also more expensive than FTL. Balance and few mechanics are simply different, but hardly better or worse for most part. Just different. I guess if you really want more FTL it's ok. But it's really better off to wait for a sale, game is overpriced for what it offers. Maybe by then it will get more unique features like those Dungeons or Planetary Assaults to set it aparat more from FTL and maybe mods too. I think it would work better if it wasn't designed around going towards this big epic fight at the end to finish the game and simply let you fly around the galaxy adventuring. Then again I wanted this from FTL too.No idea what they actually mean by "Dungeons", but if they integrated some sort of a Space Hulk thing into this game it would be great. Let me send my Crew to some big enemy space station or onto planets and then explore it that way without Space Battles. Now that would be actually a unique feature making game feel different enough from FTL to not be such a literal copy
>>2058215I played the demo and it sold me on it. Make no mistake, this IS a shameless FTL clone and it doesn't even make a cursory attempt to hide it. That being said, it doesn't feel as 40k as people seem to be making it out to be although I haven't kept up with the warhammer lore since whatever the Dawn of War 2 era was. Fun game though overall
>>2059232>>2059237I mean, FTL has what? A twelve year start advantage over VW? It'll take a bit for the game to really shape up to the level of FTL Adv. Ed. or Multiverse. The devs said they're aiming for bimonthly bugfixes/content updates which sounds great. Atm it feels as if it just came out of beta, but even with that in mind it plays good. I love it how some ships have chests you can raid with your crew for scrap/equipment and how itemization basically replaced the crappy "leveling" system FTL had. I disagree with the idea that you crew is expendable (apart from husks); there's something really charming about slowly assembling a squad, equipping it, mauling the enemy battle after battle and keeping "your dudes" alive. On another note, the warp jump animation is really cool and I don't see why some people are complaining about the music; it's droning a bit, sure, but perfectly fits the visuals and the ambiance the game is trying to convey. Void War is a rip-off for sure, but in the best possible way.
Finished my first run, first impressions are pretty positive. The "normal" difficulty is much, much easier than FTL, but higher difficulties seem to be the way to progress the game and hopefully offer more of a challenge.I like that boarding is such an integral part of the game and the crew management is much better than FTL's. If you've played a ton of FTL, it really isn't anything new, but it plays differently enough to be interesting. Grimdark setting is also properly edgy.
This sounds like easy money, GW should really look into this concept for a good W40K game.But again, GW is retarded
The music sounds grim dark. The artwork is grim dark. How do you know it's AI generated? I can't tell. If it is, it's good stuff.
current crew includes:>Witch (Commander)>Imperial Enforcer>Engineer>Berserker>Blood Witch>Necromancer
>>2059232Just listen to this while playing.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDpoLXD3Js&pp=ygUObWVjaGFuaWN1cyBvc3Q%3D
>>2059232All they have to do now is shamelessly ripoff Chapter Master and they basically have the goose that lays golden eggs.
>>2059237>nigga actually buys games>in 2025nigga, when something releases, that's just free content. I was raised on youtube, I would never pay for anything directly. I am being zogged irl and on-line, will see my society die within my lifetime and see all my every move on the web documented, quenching every overt act of rebellion outside of calling another white man a nigger and a brazilian a macaco since NO ONE cares about white men and brazilians. That's payment enough in my book.
>>2059336has anyone else noticed that they've recently been pushing Arbites? Both Rogue Trader and Darktide will get an Arbites class like this month or next month. Too close together and too similar to be a coincidence.
>>2058601GW is very particular about what can and can't be done with their licence. And I'm not talking about gameplay mechanics, more of a "whatever the plot is, we get to veto" and "you can't do anything that violates canon because people will consider this canon" thing.It's better to just do your own thing if that's what you want to do. The 40k IP comes with strings attached.
>>2059424Nah, I think this is looking for a conspiracy where there is none. Owlcat announced that they will make Arbites expansion at release of RT and preceding it was Genestealer and Death Cult expansion. Fartshart decided to make Dredd into a class separately. Arbites models are now older anyway and GW hardly bothers with vidya to this degree to coordinate some crossmarketing. Making low effort Titus mini was the extent of their effort
>>2059424It's just a very obvious go-to for a 40k combatant that's well known, distinct and low power.
>>2059424>Too close together and too similar to be a coincidence.That's an understatement those are within 24 hours. No way that isn't on purpose.
>>2058517its battlemace 2x20k
>>2059451Terrible cover art
>>2058601GW only gives the license out to dogshit freemium devs, even space marine 2 is a microtransaction fest
>>2058517it's fightflail MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>Have a super busted ship with a module that refreshes a weapon every time I fire a lance, with multiple lances and a big fuck off 7 shot flakk gun >Teleport my commander onto the bridge to guarantee the shield penning lance shots go through>Didn't notice the ship had 15 health, not 20 like the last one>immediately pop the ship with a single salvo >with my commander still on it>instantly lose>>Literally one fight from the final bossI already killed myself and I want to do it again for real.
>>2059656Oof, the ones where you lose your commander due to a mistake (rather than just combat damage) are the worst.
The crew combinations are really all the fun in this game. Just finished a run where I managed to get together a Chaos and Death Knight and a High Magister to teleport them to instantly btfo a large room of my choice. And for the 2nd stage boss bullshit I also had a blood psyker that can teleport all the freshly spawned thralls back to my ship for easy disposal without ever letting them fix the shields.Shame my infiltrator with the chaos star and assault armor did not survive, combination of suffocation immunity and increased system damage made him invaluable for wrecking demon ships. It's only fitting that he went down in one as I was a second too late to pull him out.
>>2060294I find the modules are really good at pushing you in different directions mid playthrough. My last one was pretty haphazard, picking up a hate matrix when I had no psykers pushed me to hit up those shops, which in turn led me to look for more modules and ended up with a god build. Three damage fireballs, TWELVE damage psy spears. Absolutely nutso.
>>2060309 >any hull damage Lance>Demon Lance >Demon Lance >Wrath of Angels >shitton of equipped Fleshy Reagents Has anybody managed to do the funny?
>it's a mostly linear rush to the boss instead of a freeform adventureFUCKING SHITCUNT60 GAYNIGGERS
>>2060454just play Ostranauts
>>2058721>conscious or otherwisejust conscious, it's a blatant copy. I'm pretty sure some of the art that I saw was a literal trace of GW art from earlier editions. I doubt the FTL guys are going to sue, but GW are massive fags and will 100% torch this dude lol
>>2060704They had a whole year to do it if they were going to. It's a total rip off in spirit but they very clearly went out of their way to make it legally distinct.
>>2060706It's not impossible that GW legal simply is not aware of it yet
>>2060309does hate matrix do damage to your own ship if you self target with one of the innocuous spells like the summons
>>2060730Doesn't apply damage to summons, only projectile spells.
>>2060309I think you have to exploit some strong modules to win at torment 5+. Clean 10 shot salvos stop cutting it in the last sector unless you also have strong boarding, but those combined form an amazing run in its own right.
>>2060704we need to normalize gothic scifi settings
>>2060707With how autistic they are, they should be. Nevertheless, GW doesn't own the gothic space fantasy aesthetic, as much as they'd like to. They'd have a better case sueing over the word "psyker" than any of the art assets because I'm sure they trademarked that one.
>>2060822Isn't there like a billion things with psykers named psykers in them?
I like it. There seems to be a depth of builds that FTL cannot really replicate. I played multiple games where boarding was my focus and in each I did it completely differently.Also, unlike what people say it's normal and feasible to just ignore boarding. You might lose out on special loot from preserving the loot containers on enemy ships but it's fine for the most part. In fact vast majority of ships has no way to get your crew onto the other ship and buying the boarding pods or teleporting psychic powers/items is not guaranteed.
>>2060845I did a whole run without boarding. Boarding is strong, but I think you got to spec into alot.
>>2060845the psychic powers and items really do open up a lot more options for solving certain problems that would represent a complete impasse in FTLchancing into a guy with just one good item or one good psychic power can completely change the course of your runI thought I was going to make it through this assault cruiser b run by just hammering people with soul spears and while it certainly put in work I chanced into a heavy teleporter unit and found a gorgonite early then just threw him at weak early crews or had him jump in to yank a container while the crew was distracted with repairs on the opposite end of the shipit cascaded into investing heavily into heavy boarders and picking up more supporting powers with mind bolts and some heals to help push fights in my favor, having started with a witch help a lotafter cruising through the early sectors dropping four goons into enemy ships it swung back around to getting a thrall pit and shitting out blood bolts to nuke the boss, I didn't even really end up needing the two storm cannons I managed to pick up along the wayin retrospect maybe I should have tried going for that big optional boss shipif this was FTL you'd have to gamble on stumbling across someone selling a ship system to be able to try any of thismanaging 10 dudes that are cycling in and out of combat and staying on top of a bunch of casters is a bit clunky though
>>2060907The miniboss ships are an absolute trap. They're ball bustingly difficult(especially on higher torment levels where they get multiple phases just like the final boss) and their rewards are only marginally better than any regular event or transport
>>2058683In some areas it’s weaker than FTL, like writing and no character skills, but there are some good improvements like being able to place ship systems you purchase in rooms, and the equipment system for characters is fantastic. If you get a DPS limiting shield, boarding becomes so much easier.
>>2060923>no character skillsAbsolutely not. That's a huge boon, not a detriment. Leveling skills was the worst part of any FTL playthrough and it doubly has no place in void war where crew casualties are much more likely.
>>2060923>>2060925I think I can live without leaving the game on idle for 20 minutes while a harmless ship slowly trains my shields, piloting, and engine and leaving something harmless on autofire to train weapons
>>2060909Miniboss rewards is the only way to obtain the demon dick (Obscene Organ), since it's not purchasable otherwise. However, it's the only special module, meaning the minibosses and their rewards need more time in the oven.
speaking of boarding I sort of wish I could choose who I teleport back home individually instead of having to grab everyone at once
>>2060962>the monkey's paw curls
>>2060925>>2060930The solution would obviously be to just not have Bethesda skill leveling but rather make it something dependent on the actual progression, like b eing able to invest scraps into skills.
>>2061102would probably be a good idea to make harmless ships surrender or flee
>>2061163They do both occasionally, but it's extremely rare compared to FTL. Over 3 runs I think I've seen one case of surrender and one case where a ship attempted to warp out. Probabilities really need to be adjusted on those.
>>2061259It may be random odds, but I've found corsairs vastly more likely to run or surrender than everyone else. That makes sense. They just want to loot. The rest are cultists.
>get a greater corpulent from a special event choice, give him the scythe that boosts damage for every kill and item that limits enemy dps to 2>buy a gorgothian, give him heavy translocator and the heal on kill weapon>have an assault cyborg from starting as explorator b as backupI thought I'd seen the height of boarding with a team of four fully kitted notmarines of various colors but these two stinky fucks just rape entire crews with decent management, the cyborg spent more time on defense or sniping crates than contributing to fights with themthey can chew through centurions and send them running like little bitches and at one point during the final fight the corpulent had at least 30 dps from guzzling thrallsthe crew stun system I picked up along the way was just adding insult to injury
So I've found the Nurgle and Khorne stand ins but Khorne is split in two, is there a tzeentch and slaanesh? Also how do I unlock all the commanders? The first four are there and I have the first two but I'm not really interested in the mutant or mechanicus and dont want to waste the resonance, do i have to purchase these two to unlock the next page?
>>2058513this game isn't a roguelike
>>2061299The Death God stuff is utterly insane for boarding runs. Get to their shrine ASAP (it will cause a boss fight, probably because it's so powerful) and then you can buy crew with spells that summon 2-5 ghouls directly on the enemy ship, no boarding required. I had the final boss FILLED with angry ghouls
>>2061484its incredibly fucked up if you have the module that makes your crew explode for 10 damage when they die
>>2060923Skills and meh leveling from FTL was (imo smartly) replaced with itemization and item abilities. If you'd want to get the same cooldown discounts as the skills give in FTL, I think it would be better if the bonus was awarded if you have multiple people manning the same room, instead of (re)introducing the skills again. Another way to get more traction from big crews/no crew limit.>>2061422I think only the first page of commanders is available atm, the rest will be added in subsequent updates.
>>2061422>>2061492I couldn't tell you exactly what triggered it but after I bought the witch the other two pages opened upbut whether it has something to do with getting around to buying more commanders or some other qualifier like a certain number of ship unlocks or wins that I did at the same time I can't tell
>>2061422>>2061492There's three pages of commanders. I'm not sure what I did to unlock them though. Are you guys increasing your torment or ONLY using the exile? Maybe avoiding the minibosses?
>>2061501I think buying/using the witch triggers the rest of the pages because I remember them opening up after I won a run with him as well.
>>2061501>>2061503>>2061506Oh, that's awesome. So far I only won with the witch and have the first page bought out but the rest are locked. Maybe it just has to do with winning with each of the characters, I'm doint a Mutant run right now
What's the point of going through abstract wounds and increasing the game difficulty? Better scrap/equipment rewards and more resonance if you win?
>>2061619More resonance yes, more scrap no.
>rigged their inventory to explodeThird time in a row, what am I doing wrong? I swear with my first playthrough I was clean sweeping these merchants.
I can't count how many runs have been soft carried by the hull reaper
>>2061827Dunno, for me it's those 2 use per combat ignore shields FUCK YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE lances. Shit is ridiculous
>>2060997>enemy drops four boarders into a large room>just send them back
I can't win with the ariokite ship for shit. I think that blood sorcery centered builds fall off in the late game much much harder than Death Cult's "just spam 6 gorillion skeletons and ghouls" shit.
>>2061615>>2061850I like your art anon, it makes me want to pick up the pen again... Or the mouse because I'm a masochist who never bought a drawing tablet.
>>2061875You absolutely need Blood Spear and Transfusion. Coagulate is nice to have as well, but not as vital as the other two. Also, you need something else alongside those, like the regular Soul Spear.
>>2061875>>2061893I honestly found blood magic annoying as fuck and pretty mid... Though that might be because I had to manually summon thralls and didn't have the ship module that generates them freely.
>>2061899Yea, manual summons should be a backup for Thrall Pit, not the sole source.
>>2061875>>2061899if you max out a thrall pit and get just one blood witch to drop an extra thrall when the cooldown is up you can fuel one blood spear caster off cooldown almost infinitely but this is of course much easier with the overseer B that starts with a pitmy win with the A came from building a strong boarding party setup and finding good weaponsits starting weapons are decent enough if you can time the emp to open two layers of shields for the two damage cannon and a hull reaper here or there but out the gate I wouldn't expect to use the spells much besides shitting out thralls to have more bodies for tasksleaning into blood magic was a lot easier and stronger with the B and the scrap savings from not worrying about buying, upgrading, and powering weapons lets you pump the thrall pit and shields really fast with tons left over for shopsthe ability to throw out shield piercing shots that never miss on such a low cooldown really buck breaks a lot of fights and exclusion zones are much easier when you can reliably mash the daemon heart to stop systems from repairing or daemons spawning
wonder if the last couple guys will get a C variant in the future
>>2061938Damn, the C ships look pretty baller. Any of them fun/OP? I'm still going through the A variants myself.
>>2062102the explorator C looks funnyit starts with an ion tunneler, radium blaster 2, and an energy beam but also starts with carnage optics for 10 crew damage on every hit so the blaster can do 40 crew damage with both of its two shots and the tunneler can contribute with its three shots if shields are downbesides that I wouldn't say any of them look particularly out there but they seem to all start with strong weapon setups, only the interdictor starts with less projectiles than 3 but two retributors and a hellfire missile is more than enough to start withI would guess that they're designed for the higher torments where early ships get much beefier setups
I really dislike the Heavy Frigate A. It's clearly a boarding focused ship in every aspect but then for some reason it has no way to actually board anything and the main subsystem is laser artillery
>>2059318>A twelve year start advantage over VW?>advantageyou got that backwards, dingusthis game has had 12 years of hindsight to work with, and it's still not as good as FTL
>>2059318>bimonthlyis that twice a month or once every two months?
>>2062527Bimonthly should mean every 2 months, with semimonthly being twice a month.
>>2062527Yes.
>>2062421I honestly think it's better than FTL. The original game is definitely cleaner with a less muddled aesthetic and much better music but the actual game mechanics are in void wars favor I think... Mostly because they're exactly the same but with improvements.
>>2062421I'm enjoying it more than FTL personally. Setting is much more interesting, mechanics are better refined, more unique tools, better ship designs
>teleport my commander to the control room to fight the pilot while the first weapon salvo hits>forget to teleport the commander back afterwards>ship explodesthis happened to me like 5 times at this point, I wish there was a warning or something
>>2062587I get the frustration because I've done it twice myself but nah, it's needleslly handholy when the real solution is not be retarded. That being said, it's kinda strange that there's no consumable or item that teleports you to an empty room on your own ship when your hit 1 hp
>>2062595>it's kinda strange that there's no consumable or item that teleports you to an empty room on your own ship when your hit 1 hphonestly that would be kind of a waste of a utility slot imo, and it wouldn't be really useful unless your entire boarding team had one
>>2062600Maybe a ship module or system then that works for your whole crew? Might make things too easy though.
>>2062601I don't know if there's a way to fix that other than by flashing a giant red text in the middle of the screen, but it's not a big deal anyway, you have to pay close attention in FTL as well
>>2062600It would be super useful in the extremely specific circumstance of having one of the crew production modules and a psyker with the group teleport ability (so he can leave the enemy ship and the expendable thralls/husks keep fighting), along with a way to heal him afterward
>>2062601Personally I think it'd be a very useful module, maybe not one I'd intentionally seek out, but I'd certainly be happy to have it. I haven't run into any scenario yet where I'm unsure when an enemy ship is going to explode, but I run into plenty where the ship is mostly on fire with 3-5 HP left or has such little HP that breaking its systems would destroy it and is still firing its weapons, missiles, or some other harmful effect that I can only stop by sending in boarding crew. In these situations I won't send in my crew and will have to risk a missile shot or something to play it safe.
>>2062601You could limit it by putting it on a cooldown. It'd feel pretty bad when you miss it by a second or two and lose crew like that though, so maybe it should start charging for a revival whenever your guy would die instead.
I ran out and bought this as soon as I realised it wasn't actually an official game.>buying gamesDevs need to eatThis is gonna get in trouble. I had seen it on the store page awhile back and thought "Wow they ripped off FTL too GW will give the rights to anyone for anything". Nah this has too much together with 40k. It has the clear Adeptus Astartes look on some characters, The same ships as Battle Fleet Gothic, I could make a list and GW probably will as they uck.The thing is though the game itself and the gameplay looks fine. It's the art being way too similar. the fact people will look at it and assume it's a GW licensed product is what will fuck this over. Not cheering on GW but there is no fucking way you could get a jury of people with no experience in 40K to not think Space marine with burning sword is not equal to Adeptus Astrates with flaming daemonsword are the same. Battlefleet Gothic ship in fleet and Gothic Space Ship aren't the same either. Having GM'ed Rouge Trader and played Battlefleet Gothic some of the ship parts ARE the same. The gameplay is FTL no way you're gonna convice someone that a bunch of Boxes are the same as a pewter model. Little sprites aren't distinguished enough to go Those 32 pixels are a Primaris Psyker! The images being straight outta the Dark Heresy book but a little different are a problem.Hopefully when GW goes after it we can still play it on Steam and it won't get locked and broke like some illegal games. If I were you I'd back up your copies outside of a steam folder. No way GW ain't coming after this when you can put a picture next to another and the common man can easily see it.
>>2062827That's not really how copyright law works. All of the names are totally copyright neutral and "big guy in power armour" isn't copyright protected, nor is the space gothic art style. GW would need to specifically and narrowly copyright the designs in question.
>>2062854^this
>>2062352I lucked into an early thrice cursed reliquary to generate those teleporting crystals and suddenly the ship felt like it was doing what it wanted to do until I found a launch bay to board the normal wayI don't think I've ever used the fucking siege beam, at least you can aim and time the hull reaper with other weapons to actually get through shields reliably even if its a 30 second cooldown unless you upgrade it
>>2062900honestly the siege beam is pretty useless generally unless you're swimming in missiles and can't/don't want to wipe the enemy crew - but it's completely busted in the final boss fight and the minibosses if you get it up to level 3
>>2062900The beam fires frequently(and last long enough that you can just tap the shields and get some damage through). Like the other anon said, it's way too expensive to use normally but it's basically a fifth weapon slot for the final boss and that's super helpful.
>enjoyed the game>came to look for the general>almost left when my ctrl-f didn't return any resultsWay to trip yourself up Chang
Does anyone else feel like the enemies have more evasion in this game than in base FTL? The burst laser was far and away the best weapon in that game and the void war equivalent feels really unreliable.
>>2062928if I didn't know any better I'd say they have hidden, possibly torment level related, evasion boostsI had a run the other day where in several fights I had 5/6 shots of a volley miss against ships with less than 10 evasion multiple times in a row
>>2062928>>2063069It's quite possible that increasing torment levels 'upgrades' systems of enemies which makes them more durable and gives them more evasion/autopilot/etc although it'd be strange that they wouldn't list that while being happy to list everything else in the torment tooltip
Last boss on Torment 5 is fucking my shit up. The run goes more or less swimmingly until the boss, I hit the first phase change, and then it all goes to hell. Shields and weapons get damaged and I can't repair them until I deal with the invaders. Meanwhile I get bombarded by the boss weapons. If I do manage to stabilize, I hit the 2nd phase change and that kills me. It feels like I really need a boarding strategy that is able to wipe out all but 1 of the enemy crew. That way I can hit their systems and it wont be repaired for a while, and don't have to struggle against 40% evasion because no pilot.
>>2058215>mobile shovelware gets the IP license>this couldn't
>>2063408License comes with lore restrictions. Biggest of which is no hypothesizing what would happen if/when whatever's left of Big E finally kicks it.
I wish the game actually explained why should we hurl ourselves into the not-Astronomican, what's it going to accomplish and why does everyone try to stop us from doing so. I'm not asking for a novel-length plot, but FTL provided a clear enough explanation of what's going on.
>>2064051With all the different commanders, they have a good opportunity to have a lot of small personal stories. It doesn't have to be anything grand, a brief motivation at the beginning of the run and then a small conclusion at the end. In aggregate you could have a fuller picture of the state of the universe.
>>2064051>>2064242I could see them expanding the writing a little bit if they continue working on this game there's plenty of modules and items with a default description
>On torment 5>Running the petraglyph, it's a scuffed as fuck ship but I've got a pretty nuts boarding crew so it hasn't mattered >Brain is on autopilot up until the point I realize I just jumped into the final fight without spending my scrap >Only have three weapons equipped. One lance, an ion and a single power single shot >My siege bombard isn't upgraded at all>Sitting on literally hundreds of scrap and most of my husks don't even have consumables equippedHad the fight of my fucking life here, Just BARELY clutched the dub because my boarding party was legit that OP. Three war cult units and a halberd that reduces DPS on kill meant that anything doing 6 or less dps actually did 0 so they could sit there and fight the entire enemy crew. That took care of the shields but it was basically an incredibly slow dps race between my single and first rank bombard shot and the enemies missiles.
Torment VI clear, halfway there. Imp Scribe was the MVP. Fury Missile also put's in a lot of work when you save up munitions and have it auto fire on the boss weapons. Interestingly, if you trigger the demon heart early, when the boss gets the phase 3 reinforcements all the oxygen comes back.
>>2058215Does it actually do anything better than FTL or is it just a reskin? From screens looks like extremely modded FTL with bloat.
>>2064661Read the thread
They dropped the update roadmap for 2025, looks cool. Not sure about "dungeons" and "planetary assaults", but I'll have to see how they work before making any judgements.
>>2064670They could potentially be really fucking rad. The game already has an emphasis on boarding and space hulks are very popular, well known thing in 40k. I could super easily see a crew combat only section where you explore one gigantic 'ship' or send your dudes to clear out some military base.
>>2058700Nothing to do with it except the writer saying on record that he got his inspiration with W40kAlways amazing how people who are completely wrong and did no research on a given subject can be so sure of themselves.
>>2064665Ain't nobody got time for that
>>2064670I suppose my only concern would be whether the rewards are properly balancedthe high threat optional bosses we have already are on par or worse than the final boss but you don't get much of a reward for the effort and risk compared to normal fights
>>2064650Forgive me...
>>2064670>No Ancient C or Demon C layoutsThey're probably running low on unique gimmicks, but they're also adding 3 new hulls.
Fucking FINALLY.
>>2065315Time to ROCK
>>2058705Just because it's a funny concept doesn't mean it's reality.
How is it a shameless ripoff when FTL came out 13 years ago and they wont make a sequel?The combat mechanic is tried and true and I was excited to see someone else's take on this "genre".It is more of a homage to ftl than a ripoff.
>>2064670>planetary assaults
>>2065349its shameless because there's nothing to be ashamed about
>>2064650Obscene Organ AND Desecrated Shrine? Shiiieeeettt....
>>2065392>option B>lose half your crewwow such planetary assault
>>2058599I'm glad to find there's another person in this gay ass earth that has this opinion as well. RNG that creates different situations is kino, RNG that decides outcomes is garbage.
Is it just me or are the B variants of ships significantly better than the A ones? Great example is the overseer.>A comes with a gun combo that will fire after a lot of early game enemy ships and a funny worm>B comes with a fully operational thrall pit + blood spear + thrall summon combo AND siege missiles which will be great in the late game
>>2066077Depends on the hull. Heavy A is a bit schizophrenic with Volt Knives but no way to board, but Heavy B takes away your shield and doesn't really give you anything in return. Oblivion A is better than B because of demon spam, while Relic B is better than A also because of demon spam.
>lost my captain to an enemy's Radium Blaster IISo this is what it's like to be on the receiving side. I wish the weapons were a lot more visually identifiable. It's nice that you can mouse over and read them, but I don't want to have to do that for every ship.
>>2064650This is by far my favorite ship and commander. I think it's because it's "almost there" on everything. Pretty good boarding, but will need a few casts because obscene organ is so good. Decent enough weapons for a long time. The downside is no fucking scanner. Which results in patrolling your ship sometimes after fire or demonbreach fights. But it's ok because if you get demonsummoners you're a 10/10 boarder. If you get another 2 damage weapon you're theoretically done weapon-ing up. If you get another demon module, or rng blessed your miniboss fight with another organ, just your 3 rotspawn can wreck ships. A variety of paths and solid weapons.
>>2064661Does a whole bunch of things worse in my current experience. Psionics especially are completely busted.
Reminder that non psionic imperial citizens is the only righteous crew option
>>2058215I really like this but I feel it's much easier than FTL. Anyone got the same impression?
This is one spicy sector one
>>2067375Normal is easier, but the higher torment levels can be ball bustingly harder.
>>2067432needs ghoul spawning beam
>>2067492Tell man do higher difficulties unlock new weapons or is it purely stronger enemy ships? Also shrines, do they actually *do* anything?
>>2067496I ended up with 9 necromancers in total. +10 demonic HP, +10 +2 demonic DPS and allies explode on death mods. Fun.
>>2067507Torment I adds a bunch of items into the shop pool. Other than that, no new unlocks as far as I am aware. Shrines makes it more likely to see faction related stuff in shops.
>>2067519Neat, thanks.
>>2067375I mean there's like 12 difficulty levels?
May as well ask about Multiverse in this thread. What is the point of that beacon you can activate at the start? I activated it twice. Once I got some esoteric schizo oricle ship that I had no idea what it was for and other time I got raped by a horseshoe ship. Worst part of Vanilla FTL was trying to get the crystal cruiser and this shit seems ten times more esoteric.Granted I somehow stumbled across Lanius queen once, won by the skin of my ass and didn't even get a ship.
>>2067519>Shrines makes it more likely to see faction related stuff in shops.Do they stack from the start of a run to the end or only affect shops in the sector they are in?
Good: It's a really cool FTL WH40K conversion that slightly improves many things Bad: It's still FTLVerdict: FTL/5, would pirate again
>>2067642Seems like it lasts until the end of the run. If you mouse over your commander it shows which shrine is active.
I'm just a newbie retard that found out about this game yesterday but had some fun in the demo.>start with the only option, the imperial ship with boarding pods and 2 clear boarders>by end of 2nd sector end up with 2 imperial sidearm modules (+2 dps for each module to the enforcers) and +10hp for imperials module>also find two +10hp armors and some polearms that give bonus dps in medium rooms>the two guys are basically terminators now, send them into 2-square rooms and they just melt anyone that comes to fight them>get a medbay so they're always top shape>also find a psyker with enemy crew stunning spell just in case they actually had any troubles fighting someone (like the death knights)>somehow never found more imperial enforcers, just built some husks in the free starports to operate stations >end up just boarding everyone to death with the two chad fuckers, including possessed ships, finding pressure suits helped>all my scrap spent on just upgrading shields and engines, who needs ship weapons anywaywas fun but honestly too easy desu
activating death shrine should give the captain immune to poison desu
>>2067913I would like it if shrines would give more interesting effectsfor the most part shrines just slap you with "your commander can't rest for three jumps" with either an annoying boarding party or just chunking your commander
>>2067834The default difficulty is basically easy mode, game doesn't start getting tricky until you've hit a high torment level unless you use a weak ship or commander. I've only played through Torment 11, 12 is apparently the max, but the game hasn't hit the same difficulty of FTL for a couple reasons:>Boarding has no RNG whatsoever with the exception of where sleds can land, so if focused on you can wind up with a build that subdues an enemy ship 100% of the time easier than in FTL.>Pool of random events places much much fewer empty spots on the map and the sectors are longer, so you won't waddle through a sector getting nearly nothing.>Certain combinations of equipment, spells, modules, etc are extremely strong. Shrines make it easier to get a good combo, but even without them the odds of finding something quite good are high.
>the best 40k game to come out in a LONG time is not even 40k
>>2067954Not surprising since 40k went to shit during Ward era and these Primagays were the last nail in the coffin. Any derivative game should be better than an official one right now.
>>2067954As I said, the only thing they need to do is shamelessly incorporate the fangame Chapter Master as best as they can with playing FTL catch up and they basically have it all.
>>2067945I'm at 9 and the game is annoying me more than anything. The constant whack-a-mole with opening and closing doors for one grows real old real fast.
>>2067925just dont be a heretic and pray only at imperial shrines
>>2067954All hail Space King.
>>2067945Ships also have lootboxes on them that you completely miss out on if you dont have any boarding capability
can you ever get anything from fighting traders (besides tiny amount of scrap) or do they always blow up all their cargo
>>2068174I've gotten a husk once
i refuse to play any commander but exileonly 3 out of 9 a-class ships that come with a preinstalled boarding mod which means that playing with the other ships without exile will cause me to miss a few chests which is simply unacceptable>play ships with boarding modulesno, i need to unlock the last a-class ship>play cyberdisabledno, exile is superior
>>2068208Your summoning? Love me that wraith and rotmaxing.
whats the point of unlocking all this shit if exile+imp.cruiser A can beat anything
>>2068275Because Wight+Oblivion A is a barrel of laughs >>2064650
>Blue Danube starts playing
>>2068159PRAISE BE
>be wight>in death cult ship>90% death cult crew>death shrine active>encounter planet of death cultist>they still ambush and bonk medumb mortals
>>2068699Please understand. You have gonorrhoea and they chlamydia. It's like lords of the locker room but with even more STDs.
>>2068699They were just trying to gift you a quick journey to meet Father Gorgoth, don't be so ungrateful.
Torment X is really stingy. Getting just 9 scrap from an encounter feels mean. Really need to plan what your build would have look like and can't afford to grab things that might be useful. What do I have to look forward to from torment 11 and 12?
>>2069066Cock and balls torture
I really want to get two, but the correct move is the shield charger right?
>>2069117Bro, you've got the bombard and the reaper and you're conflicted about 5-22 to crew only once? That shit ain't gonna help against demonships or 50 muhreen cruisers.
>>2069066XI makes the bosses stronger. Only fought Ariokine's ship so far. The damn thing was mind controlling half my crew every pulse of it's big ability.XII gives all enemies more firepower.
so we got nurgle cult and khorne split into 2 cults (blood and war). where is the blue bird and purple whore
>>2069403play the game and see dumbass
>>2069403Ariokine is more like a blood themed Slaanesh, the symbol of his boss ship is even extremely similar to Slaanesh's mark. His cultists are described as degenerates and they're more into torture and soul stealing rather than murder for the sake of it.
>>2069124He already has a psytronome, and their effects stack. So having two would deal 10-44 damage to all enemy crew, weighted towards the middle band, since the two apply their damage individually.
It's a reskin.
>>2069554"he" is a moron
>>2059237>using cheats
I unlocked some other commanders but I keep just starting with exilehaving a decent combatant with innate teleport from the start is just too good desu. the only bad thing is missing out on 5 evasion because he is always out fighting niggers
>>2069544going from aesthetics I thought War was chaos undivided and blood was Khorne
>>2069630Exile and Cyberfused are the best commanders all around. Boarding is the only way to get ahead on higher torment levels. The other picks are okay for specific ships, but you'll never go wrong picking Exile.
>>2069635I'm sure they started with aesthetics and then filled in the lore and playstyle from there. I like how the war worshipers are highly industrial, repurposing every planet they conquer into manufacturing centers for weapons.>>2069703I really can't put the archmage that high myself. Only playthrough I used him in I wanted to make him a boarder and sought out instant spells, but he got outclassed by space marines in the lategame with only one equipment slot and I regretted my choices.
>>2069703who the fuck is the spaceman on C?
>>2069818He's immune to suffocation
>>2069769Yea, archmage is solidly B, since he's immensely dependent on what psy stuff you find during your run. Often he just becomes another Rejuvenate/Purify support.
>>2069981Forgot to add: Wight is only A if paired with the demonic cruiser. Otherwise he's B at best, due to his very low move speed and few slots.
>>2069703I can't imagine the cannibal ever being very good not being able to rest completely guts any usefulness he might have because it requires you to luck into someone with healing or pick one of the ships that starts with a healing spellat least the assassin's pieces all fit together towards a coherent idea even if she would be better with an innate ability that inflicts a large amount of poison damage on a target instead of having to sit in combat to stack poison
>>2069987He's immensely RNG dependent. If you find good weapons (kills stun enemies, kills restore 10 hp, kills deal 10 damage to all enemies), and you pair him with another trooper to take the heat off, he can perform well. If don't find enough good weaponry, you'll likely lose the round, because he'll die at some point due to his flaw.
>>2069769>>2069981I feel like the two free psy slots make him worth it, especially given how much of a good combatant he is with the massive health pool. I've never had an issue finding good enough spells to justify his inclusion. For instance, getting him the room teleport psychic ability just makes him a functionally superior version of the Exile.
>>2069703Playing the higher torments made me value the Cybernetic a lot more. I would switch him with the Archmage. It's rare that I get a good spell and don't have an available pyschic slot. But I can never have enough slots for consumables (I've also come to appreciate the Infiltrator a lot more). The bonus repair speed is also useful, since you'll be taking a lot more system damage from all the extra enemy firepower and don't want the situation to snowball away from you.
>>2069850>when door control 2 is a disadvantage
>>2070026>filename
>find siege armor in first half of first sector (immune to suffocation)>few encounters later find assault drill (breach hull on kill)My Exile is now a one man wrecking crew
>>2070384>randomly get splinter bombs module in sector 3Behold the destruction of anyone that breathes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSWlMJbkfmg
>finish the game on torment 1>see that torment 2 just increases the pain but doesn't give any bonuses to balance it out>just keep doing runs on torment 1I have roughly a third of the ship roster unlocked at this point, sure hope I'm not missing out on any super secret bosses or enemies
>heavy B starts with no shield>arrive at first system trader>sells shield booster but no shieldhow dare u
>>2070584Heavy B is such a shit ship. You don't start with shields, but unlike the stealth ship in FTL, you don't start without anything good to balance it.
>>2070449https://youtu.be/BcNkxWkTsm0
doom engine is the easiest boss prove me wrong
>>2071631Starflayer when you have purify is easier than Doom Engine when you have shield charger, but it's more likely you find a shield charger than an Imperial Scribe. The real question is why Necro barge is so much harder than the other 2.
>>2061890>mousejfcPost something you've drawn
>>2070417I had a berserker with AOE and HP on kill weapons. That dude just owned everything solo no questions asked.
Youtube comments are mental.
>>2073267They're pretty funny. I like it when the entire comment section for a video is following a single bit.
>>2073267May the Divine contraption gift us with knowing
what are the higher torments like?I'm still getting the hang of 4
>>2074051You will find walls at 6 (reduced scrap, larger enemy crew) and 10 (even more reduced scrap). The regular encounters are manageable, though you will take more damage and have to repair more often, and sometimes it's better to run because your ship doesn't match well against an enemy's combination of weapons/systems. The bosses remain right bastards and will become significant challenges. I'm currently banging my head against torment 11 as most runs I make it to the boss doing fairly well, get to phase 2, and then all hell breaks loose and the situation snowballs away from me.
>teleports in your command throne and kills your captain>refuses to elaborate>leaves
>>2074070Personally when i started i was increasing torment every run until the second 'reduced scrap rewards' appeared. Then i decided its just cheap (and repeated) way to do difficulty and havent even played that level yet because fuck that
Running into enemy ships with 4 shield bars and enough guns to fire 10 shots when you're only in sector 3 is pretty annoying.
Is anyone familiar with the first battlefleet gothic game in here? Don't want to start an entire thread for just one question that ain't related to the gameplay.
>>2074818I am
is this better than multiverse? if not then i see no reason to waste money on a glorified FTL mod.
>>2074885Good, is there actually an cutscene or any voiced appearance of The Deceiver there? Outside of the shadow behind the crone and presumably her.
>>2074903in the second game I think
>>2074903>The deceiver is in the opening cutsceneWhat the fuck I never noticed this. I don't remember him being in the imperial campaign for 1 or 2, though the campaigns in 2 are extremely long so I may have forgotten him and I haven't played the Necron or Tyranid ones.
>>2074930Fuck if that's so then the /tg/ wiki and reddit lied to me...could've sworn there was something I did find.>>2074939It's just a shadow so it's understandable. Still though, where the fuck did the info come from?
>play Relic A with Mutant>find 2 translocators in the first two sectorsif I wanted to play Exile I'd play Exile
>>2076094Exile but with no tool and armour slot.
>>2058302FTL has built in perfect RNG mitigation though: the blue option. If you pick the blue option, you always succeed (or at minimum avoid losses). The idea is to encourage you to have a diverse set of crew, systems, weapons, and upgrades rather than hyperfocusing on a specific thing. FTL (and every other rogue/lite for that matter) is all about risk mitigation. Getting stuff that gives you lots of blue options (engi crew, hacking, high level engines/sensors, etc) will remove RNG and help you survive and thrive. It's part of getting good at the game. The FTL event system is incredibly smart and one of the main reasons the game is so good.
>>2058215I'm interested in trying this game out but the graphics and UI look really hideous and illegible. There's so much visual noise and all the colours blend together. Completely different to FTL where the graphics are simple shapes with block colours and important elements pop out and are instantly legible.
I would like to play more games in this unique setting. It's worth exploring across various genres.
>>2076461It is truly interesting indeed, male sibling.
>>2076443I like FTL and think the event system is designed intelligently, but the end result feels like a lot of RNG. In order to have enough scrap to spring for things to get blue options you need to not run into too many empty systems in the first place, something that can happen at any given point of the run. While playing there were a lot of cool little gameplay tricks I learned that made me better at the combat, but because of the event system conjuring an entire sector of nothing so many revelatory moments amounted to nothing because I rolled too low.
I hate shit like this. Look at all those conditions, and even then it only lasts 10s.
>>2077007it becomes really powerful if you get any weapon capable of breaching
>>2077009If you just happen to get loads of other things. By itself, it's worthless. Not worth the gamble when there are other all-around good modules and limited slots.You need breach weapons, fighters, people who can handle suffocation, a launch bay. Good luck.
>>2077041Most items in the game require at least one other thing to combo with. All equipment requires a crew member with an open slot, you need a missile bay for missiles, weapons bay for weapons, etc. In this case if you have assault sleds you can use the module for the frequent situation where an enemy ship doesn't have a landing point in their weapons bay or wherever else you want to board. Not great but not totally useless.
The art and music (and probably the flavor text) are all AI generated, but is the code AI generated too? I don’t know anything about vibe coding, but I’m a little scared if you can proompt an entire game like this
>>2077009module wise it would be better to just have demolisher rounds instead for thatits one of the few things that makes the ancient b kind of fun to use despite how absolutely shit not starting with shields is
>>2077085Do not fear the AI. There is no need to be afraid.
The only 40k stuff I liked is written by Abnett - Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Gaunt's GhostsHope this gets that feeling
>>2077009breaching is fucking awesome and enables a bunch of things, so this would make shatterfields a winmore at bestnot that winmore is a terrible thing in this game, shit's tough
>>2070579I got up to torment 6, but honestly it's just not fun. There's no point going beyond torment 1.
>>2077707I think I'd just want the reduced scrap rewards out and it would be feel less gay to go up against the proper boss and ships with real weapons and crews
>>2077085>The art and music (and probably the flavor text) are all AI generated, but is the code AI generated too? I don’t know anything about vibe coding, but I’m a little scared if you can proompt an entire game like thisNone of this is true schizo
Necro spam is cheesy but, by the Endfather, I love it.
>>2077707in turn I thought below torment 6 was too easy
>>2077790its obscene with explode on death module>oops I've dumped a minimum 2 boarders per caster>they're interrupting repairs and station manning>some of them poop out poison too>they also chunk your crew when you finally get rid of them>twice if a ghoul respawns as a torso :)the only sort of counter is the three or four sources of "stack dps for every kill" but not only are those rare among enemy crew it still doesn't stop the constant attrition that will overwhelm them eventually
>>2069703I had a little play around with assassin. Poison stacks while you fight so once poison matches their current hp, you can just run to another enemy.I think the idea is to sprint around the enemy ship, stacking poison on everyone and then recalling and leaving them to die.So, minimum essential gear to make her work:>transportation (pod or teleporter)>"Sigil of Rot" module (double poison rate)>area damage weapon>enemy DPS reducerThen just cross your fingers and pray you don't run into death cult, machine cult and demon ships.If you get all that, she's solid C-tier.
>>2077724NTA it is on you to prove it.
>>2078824Not how it works. The guy claiming the entire game is AI-generated should come with proof. We know the artwork is AI-modified (you can deduct several of the original sources), but that Kelsey Rullmoss guy (credited for music) seems to be a real person.
>>2078880Since I want ypou to prove that his claims are without basis that is exactly how it works. A real person can generate content and claim it as their own as easy as signing up to an account or forking over a small sum.
The most obvious proof against it being AI-generated is the price tag. Why would a robot charge money for a game? It doesn't need money. What's it going to spend it on?
>>2079589
The Necropolis Barge is the definitely the hardest boss ship. Just floods you with summoned critters.Zombie gangrape.
>>2079697That just fucked my last run. Now watch me roll the blood one when I got 3 chaos engines, 2 chaos rifts and this guy.
>>2079714I finally scored two centurions and kitted them out for a proper heavy-duty boarding party.Now every enemy ship is full of chaos knights and blood knights. I swear, sometimes the game tries to match your gear and fuck you over.
>>2078880>(you can deduct several of the original sources)such as?
>>2079855I know that's not true but yeah, I sympathize with that. That said, feels good as all fuck when things go according to plan and you rip his ass. He really didn't enjoy my cyberfused with kill scaling scythe and throne of skulls eating all the zombies bounced from my ship.
>>2058686>>2058705>open void war>gothic sci-fi ships that are basically high quality third party models for the tabletop>literal space marinesThis is 40K>watch event horizon>meh horror film with a couple of memorable scenes>doesn't really do anything with what it createsThis is not 40K
>>2080057>This is not 40KWell, no. It's technically 3-10K.
>>2080068-9997?
>>2079963>such as? The guy in the main artwork is Rutger Hauer. The cannibal is Bubba from Redneck Rampage. The roughneck is some astronaut dude from a movie poster (can't remember which one). And there are several others I can't remember right now.
>>2080087We call that easter eggs and pop culture references dumbass
>>2080087>The guy in the main artwork is Rutger Hauer. The cannibal is Bubba from Redneck Rampage. The roughneck is some astronaut dude from a movie poster (can't remember which one). And there are several others I can't remember right now.This isn't how AI works, it doesn't literally pull random specific actors from films out. It creates an undistinguishable blob of everything it has ever seen.
>>2080087When someone calls art like Void Wars AI generated what they mean is that it looks like sterile noise or having uncanny details that the AI generating algorithm tends to produce from blending things together which makes things creepy.
>>2080087>Guy who has only seen one person in his life and it's Rutger Hauer>"The guy in the main artwork is Rutger Hauer"He looks more like Klaus Kinski. AI doesn't just rework someone's face, that's more likely in the case of a real artist tracing or using a specific reference. See BG1 &2, also Neverwinter Nights 1 portraits >>2080095You're just dumb
I have a feeling the guys poisoning the well and throwing around totally unsubstantiated AI accusations are the same retards that were throwing tantrums on the steam forums about the game "stealing" from Games Workshop
>>2080409Nigga they did ape GW pretty hard. And good on them since game has a pretty good vibe going for it.
>>2080068It's technically nothing.There is nothing about it that is Warhammer.
>>2080430Whatever you say sister, I'll just leave you to shitpost in peace.
>>2080430True. There's not even any aliens.
>>2080361Nah, Kinski has a slightly fleshier nose, and a bit more oblong face. It's Ladyhawke-era Hauer, with AI reworks.
>give me fused >beat t10 any ship>give me literally anyone else >die like a chump sector two-threeWhat gives? How the fuck do I get good with these other captains? Exile is good but feels like a straight downgrade to fuse, psykers are great early on but they fall off hard 9 runs / 10. And then there's the memeteam like assassin or cannibal.Seriously throw me a bone. How do you lot play with these?
>>2081224Just let them sit on the throne for that sweet +5% evasion, and have everyone else do everything.
So what are the good weapons? I find myself going after storm cannon IIs because they look like the burst laser mkII of this game
>>2081241Beggars can't be choosers. I use whatever the game deigns to give me, and then I thank it.
>>2081241retributors have comparable shot/power ratios to storm cannons and are never a bad choicetheir bursts are also much faster so you have less risk of a shield layer regenerating before all shots landputrefactor IIs are 1 power for two shots which is good even if you don't care about the poison which is a nice cherry on tophull rippers also have two shots for one power and 2 damage per shot on empty rooms which can help get rid of some troublesome shipsyou're probably starting to notice a running themeion weapons feel a lot more useful in this game than FTL but I couldn't tell you whythe one that takes like 4 power but can fire every couple seconds can get kind of fucked up if you can afford it but I'm not sure its really worth it
>>2081241Storm Cannon III is the strongest overall cannon-type weapon (6 shots), but Hull Ripper II can potentially cause more damage (if fired at an empty room, and all the shots land). >>2081255Yea, Auto-Disruptor is kinda whack, but it takes a lot of power.
>>2081392I think some anon said the problem with high-power weapons is that your weapons room just needs to take a little scratch and they shut down. Not too bad if you have a science vicar to protect the system with a shield, or the psychic fellow who can do force fields.
>>2081437Problem with them they're almost never worth the power. I mean why would I use 6 power to use two auto ions, if I even got them, and you're not going to suppress a 4 shield without two, when I can accomplish the same with an ion lance or most missiles + regular weapons. Or boarding. Or teleporting in. Or psionics.Save that power for your reapers, your bombars or your sex pits.
>third jump sector oneufff
>>2081437well the FTL trick is to put higher power weapons that you rely on in the leftmost slots because those go down last when weapons systems take damage and it still works herethe main problem I find with most high power weapons is that they tend to be dubiously worth their investment costsix shots from a storm III sounds great but because of the delay between shots you have to have something else timed with it or else it will barely penetrate shieldsI'd prioritize flechette weapons or the inferno fougasse in a shop because they're less unwieldy but they feel pretty rare
>>2081551Nuffle is just fucking with me now
>>2081567Yeah but just you watch. You'll get wrath of angels and be all lance ready then no shop will ever sell another lance ever again.
>>2081572I got a backup plan for blood spears and bombard but this run is already getting silly. Pretty sure these don't stack unfortunately.
>>2081572>>2081575...my save is going to get corrupted just before the big bad, isn't it?
>>2081578Yeah there's a special super-secret machine cult end boss that reflects your first 10 shots back at you. Not normally a problem, unless your weapons have limited shots. You're fucked, m8.
>>2081627My commander did the heavy lifting so it turned out alright. Sucks I didn't roll a better main weapon but I can really fucking complain can I.
>>2081567Does Reaper Shells stack with Demon Lance, or does it only increase the base damage?
>>2081882It would be pretty funny if it doubled the half-current-hp damage to your crew and just killed everyone.
>>2081567>Nuffleblood bowler
>Fixed issue preventing sensors from appearing in shops Aww yea. Oblivion A became even better.
Change log seems to be:Exile: -10 HPWitch: Deathbolt deals 25 dmg to crew instead of 15Wight: -10 HPPriestess: +1 base DPS (4 to 5), Reduces enemy DPS by 1 (against 3 DPS crew she has effectively 90 HP)Assassin: +1 base DPS (4 to 5)Cannibal: Gain 15 life on kill, Kills grant +1 DPS for encounterCyberfused: -30 HP (140 to 110), ouchInterdictor C: Retributor I and Retrib II, instead of 2xRetrib I.Relic B: gained a missile bay and Gladius missileOblivion A: +1 ghoul magus with Aetheric Gate. Bolt Cannon instead of disruptor. Missile Bay with Blight Bomb. Seems like it really wants you to lean into boarding with poison boosted zombies. Also comes with 4 AntidotesBlight Bomb now deals 1 hull damage instead of none.
So is it an FTL mod, did they somehow get the FTL source code or did they code a new engine that looks and plays IDENTICALLY to FTL?
>>2082478Good changes for Cannibal. Now he'll actually be viable.
>>2082480>did they code a new engine that looks and plays IDENTICALLY to FTL?It's this one. They made their own, blatant FTL copy, but in not40k setting.
>>2082478bit mixed on blight bomb doing hull damage, if you were going for crew kills its probably in your favor for it not to do hull damage, but I guess this change is to make it so its harder for the player to just laugh off blight bomb ships if they're on a death cult run or have cleanse
Overseer C with Wight is hilarious. On Torment V, enemy crew in the first few sectors are often dead before the Devastator Beam finishes charging. Fiend is controllable, but can't man or repair, and has no gear slots. Seduced Mystic has Summon Thrall spell and Chaos Engine tool. Tool instead of chaos warp spell is a bit awkward. It wants you to use to teleport the thrall pit thralls to suicide bomb the enemy, but the Mystic has to go with them and is fragile at 20 hp. You can't immediately recall just the Mystic, as it recalls everyone.No sensors, and the ship is a pain the vent, so be diligent with patrolling for fires.
>>2082478>cybercripple nerfedgood
Haven't taken it for a spin, but not quite sure what to make of the new ship. It has a mish mash of weapons: Graviton Cannon, Heavy Energy Lance, Siege Missile, Displacement Bomb.Heavy Energy is a weaker Macro Lance (2 power, 2 charges, 2 damage).Crew is decent, but you have an awkward way to board.
>>2081882I never got that run with husk rank and thrall pit to give that a try.>>2082346Among other things, yes.>>2082478Exile got the worst of the nefs honestly.
>>2082515>an awkward way to boardYou know you don't have to board every time.You'd be a fool not to, of course. It's supposedly high-risk, but it's actually far riskier to play the evasion game with ship guns.
>>2082488How was he not viable before?
>>2082531>Exile got the worst of the nefs honestly. Nah, it's just that Pressure Suit is no longer an auto-equip for cracking demon ship safes. Cyberfused got cyberfucked, lost more than a quarter HP.
>>2082562Too fat. Couldn't fit in the lunch pod.
>>2082565>lost more than a quarter HPHe lost 30 not 35+. Nigga, he still a better space muhreen with a combat teleport out the box.
i have actually been streaming void war runs on kick and i always find myself using shit tones of necromancers as a meat wave, boarding in general is borked
>>2082478Good thing bombardment works as intended. Fucking hacks.
What if commanders Had upgrades/skill trees to unlock during the run. Some Basic bitch stat increases but also unlocking more Item slots or innate abilities/passives
>>2082746What if they had no slots at all and you had to grind to unlock slots they have now?
>>2082752Calm down Perturabo
>>2082746I wonder why they didn't include a leveling system for your crew like in FTL
>>2082763Because then the optimal Play is cancer like leaving the game running in the background against an enemy that cant hurt you until piloting engines and shield operators max out their exp bars
>>2082763I imagined it more like the commander getting 1 skillpoint when entering a new sector (including first)
>>2082752What if they could all get 2 weapon, 1 armour, and 2 tool slots but you only had a 1% chance of unlocking a slot per jump?Or maybe a torment% chance.
>>2082812Sounds like cancer restarting the first sector over and over and over
>>2082571It's still a corsair's HP worth of nerf. He previously had the same HP as a death knight. OTOH, I think the priestess got the biggest buff. She was the least used of the "regular" (i.e. non-gimmick) commanders.
>>2082835Butcher went from alright but really niche and dependant on good gear to has two of the best melee weapons built in. Witch went from good support to basically a free bonus scrap ride in the first few sectors even with no boarding.Cyberfused is good because of his repair, his resistances and his teleport and can still become godly with good gear.
>>2082852Cannibal got a huge buff (super thirsting glaive plus mini soul thresher abilities), but he's one of the "new" commanders (added very late in pre-Steam development). Witch is great. I'm unlocking ships, so I put her in the raider light frigate A. Between her Death Bolt, the boosted sub-husks (found a second Hardened Casing, btw), and two nekromans I've picked up along the way, not a lot of crew was left on the ships I fought in the first two sectors.
>>2082860Bruh. Witch is male.Problem is that 15 to crew falls off HARD.
>>2082869>Problem is that 15 to crew falls off HARD. It's 25 to crew after the v1.0.1c buff. Meaning all those imperial recruits are deleted in one go. I thought the witch is female, like priestess and assassin.
>>2082869>spoilerFunnily enough, all the character descriptions are written to avoid saying so. Except for assassin, but you can assume that's referring to the whole order.
>>2082904Well, "witch" isn't necessarily female and I'd put money towards related, a non sanctioned imperial psyker in general or Zargothrax or whatever being what they're going with that commander. and when the fuck are we getting the xeno in the xeno heretic and traitor>imperial recruits are deleted in one goThose don't really show up after jump 3 sector 1 past torment 5-6. It's great for crowd control on your own ship if a lesser daemon slipped thru and for countering some of those nastier psycasts that have a long channel but let's be real. It's straight up worse than a whole lot of other abilities if not all of them once you get options unlocked and synergies available and even 25 is still meh compared to some of the other stuff out there. And it being locked and unable to be switched out is the main downside of witch imho. Yes I can see the value of picking off crew and getting that sweet scrap bonus without boarding but even if you rolled that does damage to hull system you're absolutely better off with blood spear.
>>2082915>And it being locked and unable to be switched out is the main downside of witch imho. Death Bolt does not take up a psy slot. You still have a spare one.
>>2082919Matter of looking at things then. Wraith and rotspawn spawn being the same deal in my view but universally much more useful. And if archnegromancer had an armor or at least a tool slot I wouldn't spare half a second looking at witch over those two.
Just finished a T5 run with the new Priestess and Assault A. Being able to run a shield with the damage reduction makes her ridiculously tanky. I just realized that none of the main war cult combat units have a tool slot probably for this reason.Shipwide starscream is really good at messing up enemy casters when boarding or giving you enough time to punch down the weapon systems. It's also useful defensively when you get hit the boarding waves on the boss and need to reposition your casters and husks while slowed down by an enemy graviton.
>>2084614Yep, innate dps reduction + shield = hilariously durable combat unit.
>>2084614>Shipwide starscreamOhhh I thought it was just the room. That's why I never even unlocked her.
>>2084737It was just the room until the rebalance.
got this game the other day. what are your favorite builds?
>>2085297Can't go wrong with a macro devastator carving through an enemy ship.
>>2085330Hey that's funny. I'd call it avoid like the plague weapon myself.
>>2085330I can't be waiting 5 minutes for one weapon to fire, anon.
you guys really like this ftl ripoff huhAt least donate to mods instead of dropping $20 on this copyright infringement.
>>2085458nigger
>>2085297I love rolling around with a boarding crew that's totally immune to suffocation.
8 nekromans and Desecrated Shrine (+10 HP to Demonic) is extremely fun. When combined with a lv 3 Husk Rack, 2x Hardened Casing (+10 HP to Machine Slaves, for a total of +20), and a boarding pod, it's downright hilarious.
>>2085458not buying your plastic crack
>>2085458
>>2085458This game is no more a FTL rip-off than it is a 40k rip-off. It is an original IP.
>>2085458Multiverse mod dev is shilling this game as well tho
>>2089447This is the funny part. I don't know people are so cucked about this, I actually saw a youtube video where the youtuber literally went out of his way to e-mail both the multiverse and the FTL devs and ask whether he was allowed to make a video about void war.
>>2089449It's something in the water for the FTL fanbase specifically. Usually fans of long-neglected series or concepts are thrilled to see more of the same, like War for the Overworld, Tempest Rising, Project Wingman or Daemon x Machina. For some reason FTL has to be this sacred cow of "original content do not steal".
Faction mechanic needs to be reworked a bit, the Imperials are completely barebones and hiring insane cultists is treated no differently than hiring aliens in FTL
I've started quitting half-way through runs when I know the ship has no chance against the boss ship unless it gets an extreme good luck run of good drops.
>>2090178Nah, the imps are adequate, if not spectacular. The outlaws though are kinda sucky.
>>2090178I'm a fan of the imperials personally. Nigh immunity to fire on most of their units is great defensively and setting the enemy ship on fire is good for killing bosses. They're not as strong as a fully operational thrall pit + blood sorcerer setup sure, but they're very adaptable. As the other anon said the outlaws definitely need some milk.
>>2090639Just open the airlock man
>>2092348>have a crew immune to suffocation>turn off life support>suddenly have immunity to poison, fire and boarding>1 extra bar of power to spend elsewhereOpening the airlocks is overpowered as fuck.
Man necropolis barge is such horseshit, nonstop covering your ship in poison and 2 million ghouls. Also really really hate how every boss transition comes with "oh by the way fuck you half your systems are turning off".
>>2058302>>2076902>>2076443Having just lost a run on FTL 5 minutes after start because I missed my heavy ion 5 times in a row, I think RNG simply the nature of the game. It's fairly well balanced in the macro sense, but sometimes you can just lose through no fault of your own, just the dice came up wrong too many times.Events are overall pretty good I'd say though, you usually have an option between "Do partially risky thing, change to be rewarded or punished," "ignore event," or "blue option: always succeed." The only downside of the event system is it's reliant on knowing a lot of event outcomes and the chances to get them from either playing a lot or looking them up, it would honestly be better if event choices were spelled out for you within reason on what they'd do (Chance to lose a crewman, chance to take hull damage, potential engagement, etc). It might seem kind of cheesy, but any FTL veteran usually has almost every event memorized anyway and knows exactly what to pick to have the best chance of a good outcome. There's no reason to obfuscate it after a certain point.
>>2093906That's why I love boarding. It takes all the RNG out of it.
New ship just dropped. Storm Cannon I, Inferno FougasseBio-Regenerator now heals all friendly crewReagents are the ones that summon the swordNo big balance changes.
>>2093932>Favorite kill method is either asphyxiating the crew, lighting the entire ship on fire if I get a fire beam, or killing people outright with the anti-bio beam>These are some of the slowest, worst killing methods in the game since they require you usually remove the enemy shield and not do damage to the weapons bay.I wonder if Void War is any better in this way.
>>2094449you just teleport your captain to solo theirs while your killteam enters a boarding torpedo and takes over enemy weapons room
>>2094449Void War has more options.You could say it's easier than FTL, but it still has the same RNG it just gives you more choice.
>>2094449I'd say draining enemy oxygen is still one of the more difficult methods to win, but it's easier to accomplish than in FTL because there are more options for getting it done such as having a boarding crew that's immune to suffocation to keep the enemy down. Fire is somewhat easier to accomplish, because it can get out of control quick if the enemy crew can't snuff it out. Haven't tried using the radium blasters to kill crew yet but let me tell you it sure hurts when the AI does it to me.
>>2090178Void War is NOT 40k, deal with it and stop applying 40k logic to it!
>>2085458faggot
Given the option, is it always better to kill all the crew on a ship rather than destroy it?
>>2099101not destroying ships gives you 20% more scraps
>>2099176>>2099101Killing crew in void war doesn't give the scrap bonus like it does in FTL.
>>2099260True, however it gives you containers, if you haven't stolen them during combat already (rare, but it can happen).
>>2099276That's where you want a scavenger with a teleporter. In and out as fast as you can hammer the pause button.
>>2100382You can also just toss a summon to pick up the vault. If you don't think it can break it open before it dies, you can shoot the vault to crack it. The displacement weapon/bombs on the few ships that start with one can also just yoink the vault.
which commander do you all prefer?
>>2103078Depends.
>>2058302>>2058311the devs can implement RNG in a way so you don't feel unlucky more than lucky.it's a combination of how you experience randomness/deterministic that they control in their game design philosophies.they did this well in BG3 where it felt like bad dice rolls didn't require you to save scum.
>>2103078Exile is still S tiertally porta is just too good
>>2103492Cyberfused is a pretty good alternative. Same teleporter, same slots, more health.
>>2058376I mean there's plenty of traced art in 40k but this game just being a 40k ripoff is a little cringe.
>>2058700The writer was a wargamer and also wrote the script for the Mutant Chronicles movie. There is a line of influence between it and Warhammer. The problem is Warhammerfags are super annoying about it as they are about everything that isn't Warhammer.
>>210713740k is just a Starcraft ripoff anyway
Big update being released, loads of balance changes.
I don't see the point of Assault Cruiser C. You start with an empty ship and module that makes your commander faster. What's the gimmick?Faster movespeed isn't even that good. It's only a +50% boost to movespeed, you're still blocked by doors when on an enemy ship, and they are blocked on your ship so you can always respond to intruders in time anyway.Seems like you would always replace that module when you get the chance.
>>2094449Suffocation does % damage so it's relatively stronger
>>2058719Age of Strife 2: 50K Boogaloo
>>2094763Except there's multiple entire factions that do not need oxygen to breathe, and even keep their ships vented the whole time.
>>2107216the other way around40K is a space ripoff regular warhammer, but it's supposedly okay since they own the IP
Holy shit, a boss that actually goes down when you kill the crew instead of pulling AI/demon bullshit. Never thought I'd see the day.4x suits of fireproof +20 HP armor as a reward complimented the fougasse nicely. Didn't expect to beat the Necrobarge with a reenactment of cantstoptherock.jpg of all things.
>>2112538Well done.I still haven't beaten that ship. The wave of fireballs combined with the solar flares just pisses me off too much.
>>2112801It was a highly satisfying case of giving it a taste of its own medicine — the boarding crew wrecked a weapon and then the shield room, killed the crusader along with a bunch of other crew (setting a fire), then I hit the shields with technovirus for good measure and torched the husk rack too, at which point the ship was down to 2-3 half-dead priests who couldn't put out the fires faster than they were spreading and breaking everything. Seriously though, technovirus is so good, it basically saves this entire otherwise garbage ship.
>Torment VIII>enemies prioritise systems when targeting your shipUhh, they always did?
>Overseer A>Priestess>Torment 6>no boarding or healing capability whatsoever>guns only, carnage rounds for maximum fun>get completely btfo by doom engineCould have salvaged this but I just had to get a medbay instead of upgrading shield booster at the last vendor, fuck me
I love Hate Matrix. Turns your psykers into ship-wreckers. Only barely scraped through this fight. Enemy ship kept mind-controlling everyone.
>>2114659>day 2>runs still shit>ship+commander combo still subpar>latest run, guns are okay, got Aetheric Gate and Chaos Rift, but boarders aren't very durable and neither is the ship due to lack of scrap>find Seeker Missiles in a shop>ideabulb.jpg>buy every single shitty summoning reagent>hire everyone and everything with a tool slot>Necrobarge gets wiped out by two volleys of 30 missiles each with my boarders and warp lance wreaking havoc in-between>somehow make it out with 4 hull lost and entire crew aliveI completely lost track of what was going on in the chaos, but it was by far the funniest shit I've ever seen or done in this game. Itano would be proud.
>>2112538>cantstoptherock.jpg???
>>2116892FTL meme where you use a fire weapon and Rock (immune to fire) boarders to clear ships.
>>2058215I hated base FTL but I have to say this is a really fun game.
>>2058517Warfarebluntweapon 1k + 39
>tfw the run is going suspiciously well and RNG is too generousI got an Archmage with mass teleport + summon Hound, a night invulnerable Centurion, a Blood Knight and a menagerie of summonable demonic fodder with Obscene Organ to boost them.I'm going to fuck this run up somehow, I just know it.
>>2118932Put your faith in the eternal deity-king, sibling.
>>2118932>entire run going perfectly>accidentally lose entire boarding team because you didn't teleport them back in timeits happened too many times
>>2119019>>2119046Of course it had to be the one boss that fucks you over if you don't have a shield booster, which I, of course, haven't seen in a single shop the whole run.
>>2119077Oof. RNG screwed you good.
>>2119077Still did a lot of damage for unupgraded missile launchers.
>>2119763The real killer, now that I think about it, was the graviton emitter - without any form of Purify I literally couldn't reach my shit to repair it or prevent the reinforcements from breaking my shit.If I could just fix the hull reaper I probably could've lasted long enough to finish the boss off, since it wasn't getting shields back up either.But anyway I think I'm kinda bashing my head against a wall with this ship+captain combo and need to get my requisite Archmage win with something else.
>>2119875If you need a guaranteed win then just fly the Ultima Ratio and stack lances. Wrath of Angels is a lovely module. Eliminating enemy dodge chance is superb. Maybe get lucky and find a demon lance for even easier victory.God I love demon lance.
>>2119077>Displacement Bomb and Heavy Flayer Hmm, not the best combo. By mid-late game I try to get something like (Heavy) Disruptor and either Siege, or Claymore. Also, I think you should've upgraded your launchers, instead of going for the Terror Amplifier.
This went much better. Thank fuck for early siege missile, aetheric gate and 2x warzone + 3 exclusion zone combo.Getting a sorcerer with fireball at the end of it was a nice finishing touch though.
You you get anything special for crew killing ships that don't have cargo?
>>2123278No, in order to make going for crew kills and boarding strats feel less mandatory compared to FTL (but then also making crew kills and boarding much easier to achieve).
>>2123278Nope, decide which is easier on a ship by ship basis.
>blows up all your main systems>summons enemies that explode into gas and damage your systems all over your ship>ionizes all your main systems>and gases you constantly>also has a quad rocket launcher and a gorillion necromancersGod that was fucking cancer.Run thoughts:>husk rack past level 1 is mostly a waste of scrap, husks are most useful as hazard repair units and you usually don't want to spare the power to remake them if they die mid combat, 21 seconds to assemble a full batch and then needing to transport them makes shock husks pretty impractical, slave modules make them somewhat usable but there are better modules>thrall pit is extremely versatile as it can either quickly supply 4 generic crew, or use demonic modules to turn them into defenders, or fuel blood magic which is on average pretty good>2 tile surgery room is fucking gay>boarding pod becomes somewhat redundant the moment you find a good group teleport>shield booster is annoying to micro and for the most part most things won't get past shield 4 without bypassing/ionizing your shield anyway>every non-lance weapon is only good in the final fight if you get ions to cancel the self repairing shield4+booster bullshit, you still need them to shoot weapon systems and actually kill the boss >beams thus suck ass because they're bad against shield spam and are bad at shooting weapon systems>one good boarding party in a large room is the best anticrew tool in the game>breaking more than a couple systems before triggering boss regen is basically a waste of time, but breaking doors is not
>>2125861Oh, also cybernetic commander is pretty nice. Give him 2 shields and he's basically immune to enemy units while having a ton of resists and good stats. Best boarding commander on any ship that comes with a boarding mechanic built in.
>>2125861How did you get the scrap for all those systems and their upgrades?
>>2125861Beat it at its own game, drown it in tide of your own shit>15 crew members>2 boarding teams>rotspawn>ghoul beam>obscene organ and demonic shrine to make ghouls and rotspawn actually decent>fireball on magister to wreck systems while crew is distracted with fighting your boarders>so much shit spawning on both sides FPS actually started dropping>95% of the time spent in pause just trying to make sense of what the fuck is going onThe real boss killer are fusion charges, being able to instantly take out shields (and then again after phase repairs) is how you reduce this shit from borderline impossible to merely annoying.
>>2127820Pretty much the only things I bought all run were some crew, and generally relatively cheap ones instead of premium psykers and marines, and a few pieces of boarding equipment. I did buy the servo-excavator, but the high magister was loot. The guns are all loot, I skipped every rest spot, and used every shrine, and only did warzones/exclusion zones. Had slightly higher scrap in the first zone due to starting at torment 1 and using the abstract wound to jump to torment 5.
Is attacking merchants always 10 scrap (this is really gay by the way, if they can just blow up all your loot then why isn't every single vessel in the game doing this?) or am I just unlucky?
WTF
>>2128955Those little shitwipes are really annoying.
>>2128956When were they added to the game? Or have they always been there?
>>2128969Recent addition, because apparently legally distinct NGE is a perfect fit for legally distinct 40K.
Will they start trying to guilty trip us like multiverse too?
>>2129097Have you exercised today? Krom wants you strong. He wants you ready for violence!>Apologise for not being ready for extreme intergalactic hyperviolence.
>>2058311>these types of games.All 2 of them?
Man, Assassin still sucks. Poison takes way too long to kill anything and running around interrupting casters is way too niche of a use that loses you a ton of HP anyway.In the end it's easier (RNG willing) to just get a proper boarding party and camp in the shield room like usual. Servo Excavator is a perfect heavy translocator carrier, as it turns out.
New nigga just dropped. Ability only has 1 charge.
I had no idea Demolisher Shells works with the Spear abilities (Soul Spear, Blood Spear etc.)
