It's up
>>2094972Looks like shit
>>2094974nope, looks alright. Won't pay for the same game though... what, five times now? They're not Todd and Stronghold ain't Skyrim.
>>2094974dont be so negative, it hurts your beauty
>>2094972is it fun
I completely forgot this board even exist. I'll pick up the game after work, hopefully the new campaign and the new lords are good. At least the multiplayer won't hopefuly be a pain in the ass to set up
>>2095032>At least the multiplayer won't hopefuly be a pain in the ass to set upyeah its cozy already played some coop with me mate
>Can change your color now10/10
>>2094974It does look like shit, doesn't it
New units are hopelessly overpowered and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Old mercenary units are completely pointless now, and from the old Stronghold roster only crossbowmen make any sense to recruit, even if only for defending.
>>2095000Yes! Been plaiyng the new timed skirmish trail and I thought the timer would be annoying, but it actually keeps me trying the same missions again to optimise my play
It honestly looks terrible.It looks worse than the stronghold remaster. What happened here? The artstyle is all weird looking.
>>2095636yeah, they fucked up the color palette big time. Funnily enough, the old version looks more realistic than the new one because of that fuck up.
Remaster looks way too cartoony.
>>2094972>>2094976>>2095636Warcraft 3 Reforged tier
>>2095628>>2095636>>2095812>>2095825>>2095828kill weebs behead weebs piss on weebs graves
>>2095636What retard put all that shit around their stockpile wtf
kekw
>>2096149> some kike looking cunt asking for personal detailsWhat did they mean by this?
>>2096149oy vey
>dumbass streamer tries stronghold>his friend is like "do not go to the lobby, there is questionable content there">the questionable content:
>>2096058Good morning saar
>>2096599kekw
>>2096583I just used my protonmail for that.
It's been fun so far, but I have to relearn the entire game. Knight spamming still seems to be still OP at least
>>2096815>Knight spamming>OPoh boy...
>>2095628>>2096058but they're right, it looks like shit
Looks like AI art. It's too soft looking and lacks definition.
>>2096149>>2096798go back to /v/ you raped bitch
>>2096839shut up weeb we dont care about you here.
Anyone up for some coop this fine weekend?
>>2097310a message, from the snake:
>>2097485A MESSAGE FROM THE RATMaps have been drawn. Plans.... have been made. No one will escape your PATHETIC settlement
>play crusader online for the first time>find out you can call your opponent "weasel turd"they really don't make 'em like this anymore
is this better than the 3d crusader? i found the game speed and some of the units animations so odd
Am I supposed to be playing the campaign, the skirmish trails, or just plain skirmishes?What is the main mode (no i am not playing PVP)
>Definitive Edition>Enhanced Edition>Complete EditionAll fucking scams
Why does it look so blurry compared to the stronghold remaster?
I love these little fuckers like you wouldnt belive
>>2097786only way to preserve original artstyle without having lowres jagged edges
>Eunuch is the best unit 1v1Is this an attempt at subtle pro-troon propaganda?
>>2097755settle down, grandpa
Does this game have sieges and stuff? I love battles from the siege of gondor, helmsdeep and stuff where I protect a fortress or a town or maybe try to take one down with my army. Is this game good for noobs that haven't touched the genre before?
>>2097755You forgot extreme edition. They've made one good game they came back to re release every few years because all the sequels were shit and bombed.
>>2097533Thou art an artless greasy tallow-catch
>cant use formations, have to move units as a big blob2025 everyone, cant even add a fucking simple QOL change. LET ME DRAG MY UNITS OUT INTO A LINELET ME ATTACK MOVE
>>2097925>Does this game have sieges and stuff? I love battles from the siege of gondor, helmsdeep and stuff where I protect a fortress or a town or maybe try to take one down with my army. It's almost entirely sieges. >Is this game good for noobs that haven't touched the genre before?Yes.
>>2097885>Axe wounded troon is still a testosterone roid monster.B-based?
>>2097562100x betterNight and day difference
Is there really no one who wants to play some coop?
>>2098928Multiplayer is broken and didn't work lolGo play the original on hamachi
>>2098928im up for it, dude, give me your steam fren code.
>>2094972Few thoughts on new AI lords>NomadLow tier. Recruits Bedouin units exclusively, and not the more expensive ones. Quite aggresive, attacks early on, but never with enough troops to actually inflict any lasting damage as long as you're ready. The most interesting thing about him are his castles, or, more precisely the fact that he doesn't build castles. What he does is he puts walls here and there, but leaves massive openings in places where you'd expect a tower or a gate. I suppose it's in line with his nomad gimmick, but that dooms him to low tier, only slightly better than the Sultan. I also think he doesn't build wells>JewelRichard Lionheart with some Bedouin units to spicy things up. Not much to say about her, really. Her castles are bit bigger than Richard's.>SentinelThe Pig or the "small castle" variant of the Wolf, depending on the map. Relies on European units, but also recruits Bedouin destroyers and medics. His castles are cross shaped, and they look really cool, but other than that, not groundbreaking in any way. Competent, not quite the Wolf or Frederick, but definetely on par with the Pig, if not better>KahinMixes and matches Bedouin and Arab units (mostly the archers). Plently of chapels and gallows around her castles, which are build with short walls. She's bit like the Caliph, but without swiftness and brutality to justify building very light defenses. Still, firmly mid tier. The most interesting lords from the new batchThe devs are clearly running out of ideas, as there's not much more you can do with Stronghold AI lords without giving them crippling gimmicks. Four more lords will be released this years, but I don't see it.
>>2099018The main issue about the lords is the shitty limited AI. I wish they could implement a tool so players can make proper AI lords.
Right now, im playing the belvoir castle delaying tactics mission, and shit is brutal, i dont know how the fuck approach it, there is no time to build anything and the 2 attacks are kinda stupidly hard.
>>2099136Oh, i won, but i think i had to cheese it by making a hole in my wall.
>>2099142I put like 4-5 circle towers around the walls with ballistas and started spamming xbows and archers
>>2094972I think games like no option for diplomacy and that dark fantasy they are billions clone pretty much made this siege defence RTS genre obsolete for me
>>2099159No time for spam, nor for build 5 towers with ballistas. I rushed it and all i could get for the first battle was 5 swordmen + 3 ballistas in square towers + 2 xbows.
>Our castle has resisted firm!
>>2099046You're in luck.
>>2097836Put 100 of these guys on your walls and the only thing you have to worry about are siege engines, but only if AI is smart enough not to bring engineers into shooting range
>>2094972Looks soulless and shit but more importantly, what does it offer the free HD upgrade that came after original? Does it offer some automation maybe to minimise the micro? I mean its 2k25. Why would I pick this up owning already HD versions?>>2095636Man this looks horrible, surely you can switch to original graphics in this demaster?
>>2099142>>2099196did you crank up the sharpness by 1000% or something? why does it look so different from the official screenshots?>>2099274from what i have seen you can finally recruit more than one unit at a time and auto sell/buy stuff from the market which is a genius tier qol addition
Okay, i caved in and bought it.It's actually way better than i thought. The screenshots don't do it justice. It looks much better ingame plus all the QOL features are actually fantastic.t. actual crusader lord
>>2099676The remaster is crap, multiplayer is broken, and all the known bugs and shitty AI behavior are still there.
>>2100013bot post
>>2100055bot post
>>2098995you first
>>2100603you first
>>2100630are you a euro? not gonna play with lagmericans
>>2100013>all the known bugs and shitty AI behavior are still thereJesus Christ be praised!
>100K sales in two weeksYeah we're so back.Sucks that I can't train Bedouin units in the original Crusader trail though.
I'm having fun with this
Devs refused to cooperate with UCP devs. Its joever, they will not deliver proper AI in our lifetime
>>2101296Roadmap says they plan to let everyone make their own AI lords
what speed setting is everyone playing at?
>>210137770 is sexo.
>>2101296Sad, the UCP is way better than this slop. All AI habe so much more spice in the UCP and their lategame scaling is wild. Auto trading is nice though and I never want to play without it ever again.
>>2101545autotrading is going to make the game way too easy
buildings are on fire, sire!
>>2101792did you screw with it or is that how it looks in-game?it just looks *too* smooth.
>>2101796wdym? its footage straight from the game
Starting doing the coop trails with one of my friends. Pretty fun.
>>2101712>too easyAgainst the current bots autotrading surely makes the game way to easy - once you understand how OP crossbows, beer and bread are, the game is easymode anyways and no more pain in the ass micro management for those economic chains makes it so much asimpler. No more need for any kind of farmland. However: if you had the UCP AIs with their steriod maxxed scaling , concentrating an micromanaging battle instead of pressing M and smashing your mouse to get rid of stones would be much more fun. Also in PVP the autotraung really helps. What I'd really love to see, would be troops being affected not only by fear factor but also requiring food and maybe money for some units. Imagine the food and ale bonusses would also affect your troops strength, with certain OP troops requiring more food than others. This would balance the exonomic vs military aspects of the game much better and catapult spam could be limited like this
>>2094972>>2094974looks like soulless ass
Autotrade broke the game. You can autobuy 1 bread, and put double rations on for virtually free 8+ without food supply.
>>2102094>No more need for any kind of farmlandhow do you get the base ingredients for bread and bear then?
>>2102296soulful bugs like these is why we love stronghold
>>2102179The screenshots don't do it justice. I noticed ingame it looks pretty much exactly like the original. Execept for knights, they look like shit for some reason.
>>2102296Once your population is above 60, buying the incredients for ale and bread will refinance their value. Just set up 1 mill, 8 bakeries, 3 breweries and 2 Inns and set the autotraider to always have at least one wheat and hop on stock and the tax income will refinance the wheat. Thats it. Buy wood, transform it into corssbows, than sell the crossbows. Thats how you profit in the game. Simple as - always works. Population 58, buy wheat and hops, set up breweries and Inns, set up 1 mill and 8 backeries, Granary on -4, Ale +8, taxes -4 while buying wood and selling crossbows is how you 'break' the game.
spearchuckers op?
>>2102766All the Bedouin units are absurdly overpowered
>Can't figure out how autotrading works because I'm retarded so I'm still manually selling everything when the stockpile starts to fill up like a troglodyteI move the slider and nothing happens please help me.
>>2103034here is a video on the subject for troglodyteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UURRBRALGY
Why did they never release "Stronghold Japan"?The weebs would have loved it.
>>2103838Japanese castles were mostly earthworks. Probably much harder to simulate in a fun way.
I can't stop playing. This game is one of the comfiest RTS games ever made.
>>2103838more like why cant we got a stronghold with eu middle east asia and meso america factions
Refunded it after I saw non existent multiplayer.
>>2094972DE doesn't retain any of the difficulty. You can go ahead and buy the better original for cheap on GOG. It is more fun.
>>2103838they called it Warlords
>>2104292bot post
>>2104292What are you talking about? The game is incredibly difficult. The new missions are borderline impossible.
>>2104861>The game is incredibly difficult. The new missions are borderline impossible.Its not, the AI is so stupid and it has some game breaking bugs like the 1 bread/ale auto buy exploit.
>>2104916t. brown ESL
>>2094972>two decades later>knights still don't attack while moving to match the horse archer
>>2104861Don't bother, some retards buy games with the intent of finding exploits and bugs to make things easy, and then complain about it publicly. They think that in doing so others will see them and think>wow he found all those exploits and bugs? he's so smart
whats the appeal of playing these stronghold games in single player? trials suck and skirmish also sucks
>>2104991you suck
>>2104991trails is fun in a long journey way. I tried to beat the maps as quick as possible in terms of game years and that kind of grind actually felt like you were on a grueling crusade with how shitty some of the maps were if you didn't know the tricks.
Dang, just finished the historical campaigns. What a grueling experience that was.
>>2101377Depends on how much I am fucking up in the moment
Any tips for the extreme trail? Getting overwhelmed quickly by the outpost spam.
>>2105072use the magic powers from Stronghold Extreme to kill them asap :)
>send dickpic to girl>she replies "not enough wood, m'lord"
>>2102296>>2104916Can you elaborate? Wouldn't you still pay for it? How is it free?
>>2094972How to finish campaigns:1. Horse archers2. Horse archers3. Horse archersThey actually do more damage than regular archers, though not as much as crossbowmen, of course. About 100 or so are enough to kill even swordsmen in due time. Always keep them moving. Move them perpendicular to or away from enemy arrows. Don't spam click when moving them, they pause shooting when you click.
>>2105658This game does a pretty good job of showing how broken horse archers were.
>>2105658>>2105660skirmishers mulch them pretty hard
Surely they will now keep using this engine for future games instead of going back to the 3d shit, right?
>>2105675anon, they are using unreal engine for the next version of stronghold...
>>2105571She is asking for more pictures you retard.
>>2103591Thanks for the vid. Turns out I was accidentally turning it off with one extra mouse click. Blessings on your Crusades, friend.
>>2105651Because of how the game works. If you have 1 bread, your peasants will not starve, increasing the ration size only increases the rate of food depletion ticks, but if you have 1 unit of food it will by default go to 0 and not decrease your population until the next tick (you will always have 1 unit of food regardless due to autobuying) so you will only consume 1 unit of food per check instead of whatever you would normally consume if you had more. Same with ale.
>>2105914it should be really easy to fix this bug, but the team has proved over and over again they are an incompetent bunch of niggers.
>>2105914it will actually go down over time. you either have to reduce taxes to 6 or get +1 from some other source
>>21056581.Movable shields2.CrossbowsYou're gay
My thoughts:Auto trader, build over peasants, recruit multiple at once are huge qol updateEnemies are fun. More distinct and memorable than half of the second batch of enemies (like frederick, philipp, sheriff). Though I find sentinel's voice/character design doesnt fit the gameI don't think those huge ass maps work for this game (at least single player)Walking distance has a huge impact on economy. Now AI lords not only build only one or two quarries now they're 5 times as ineffective because the are half across the mapIn original crusader I played mostly in zoomed in mode - here in zoomed out (due to map size) and the design just doesn't work well zoomed out90 speed is too slow if your troops take ages to move across the mapNew troops are funConclusion: firefly should have had updated crusader hd with auto trade/recruit multiple; close shop and release the code so modders can make crusader great again
>>2106109>90adhd niggas be crazy, i play on 60 at most
>>2106056shields cannot onto walls/towers anymore
>>2106116I change it up depending on what's happening.>50 is my default where I normally keep it >But, 10 at the very start so I can think and place my buildings without having to rush, especially on small maps where some land or resources are scarce and the AI just slaps buildings down on top of them at light speed>Also, 90 when defences are set and I'm just trying to let gold and resources pile up and no major battles are happening
So many maps where there's just no point setting up an economy, especially in extreme trials
Once again i am asking for euro coop players
i hate normalfags so muchyou are the reason we are in a cultural dark ages rnits exactly the same game (worse if its also on unity like the previous one) as the one that already was working perfectly fine, yet you will only check something old if its sold to you a second time
>>2106909stfu you dumb contrarian, i still have my physical copy of crusader but the remaster is objectively nicer to play with all the qol changes
>>2106918there are no qol changes needed in stronghold, its a self sufficient game.Placing buildings on top of children and drunkards would have been nice but they didnt address that im sure.While porting on unity for no fucking reason they removed the terraforming ability from their previous "remaster" where you could flatten the elevation by placing walls and then a tower on top, and their new campaign was complete trash. You are a sucker.
>>2105658what if i tell you that you can cripple most AI's by placing a free (you have to remove all the rest first) lumberjack in front of their main gate. Or you could in the original at least.
>>2106940you could also make them ignite their own castle this way
>>2105658catapult spam is more funand have a chance of going horribly wrong too
>>2106933>Placing buildings on top of children and drunkards would have been nice but they didnt address that im suresource? Seriously, are you lying?
>>2106933>Placing buildings on top of children and drunkards would have been nice but they didnt address that im sure.but you can do thatsince you did not play the game this will be the last (you)
>remade the same game for 17 years but somehow worse award
>>2107071it is better thoughbeit
i want this game so much but im saving moneys
>>2104304I didn't even notice that they made a new game, how is it like?
>>2107071>idiots will still buy itAs long as retards keep buying, they will keep doing it
>>2107929I stopped buying their games long ago, but mixed on steam
Just glad I can change my color without mods now.
>>2108199That's a picture of crusader hd version though?
>>2108309That's DE you fucktard. Look at the swordsmen.
>>2108311faggot behavior
>>2108329I will fuck you in the ass like a arabian swordsman.
you seem agitated for some reason
>>2108311>>2108330
>>2108386>Enjoy No, but it is what it is.
>>2108330why do you fuck men in the ass, anon?
>2108386>tranime
>>2109013anime weebsite
>>2109010There's nothing more manly. It is the true display of masculinity. Making someone your bitch.
>>2099212They're selling DLC for this old game? How fucking shameless can you be? Is it not enough you charged people for the same game 50 times already?
>Fixed the auto-trade / food exploitOH NO NO NO
>>2103034>>2105770I did that too and had to look up that guide
>>2109556fug i am a shitter and relied heavily on that
Can the people crying over UCP tell me what they are missing specifically? Never played it.
>>2099248>Giving tactical adviceThis game was solved long ago, if you just want to win you can ignore most of the units, only use horse archers with shields, catapults, assassins, knights if you have the money and rarely macemen. Crossbowmen are useless because you can just spam 30 catapults in one single spot and destroy any building very quickly (for that matter, you can easily kill entire armies with catapults effortlessly). Or spam horse archers with shields since they're cheaper you can always outnumber the crossbowmen, there's no reason to ever use them (unless you're playing for fun).
i solved the game
>>2110366bump
>>2094972buy an ad
So is every fight in the Extreme Trial literally just spamming Rock Throw and Gold Printer until you win?
>>2111439thats how i played it
Mission 18 of the extreme trail was pretty funny. 19 was very difficult. The ending of the crusade is kino.>>>/wsg/5941288
what is your favorite unit/voiceline?
>>2113684Move you dogs! - Maceman.And AI voicelines, the pig, i love that ugly bastard.
>>2113684>great use of our time, lordhttps://youtu.be/jL1OOOOMQdQ?list=PLtStx0VRuZq21mIjC9ykuCdyEIG2Kxejx&t=23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn98HHTPl4k
>>2114789ok but the ai still doesn't play the game so 100% of the challenge is scripted unit spawns
>>2115720>but the ai still doesn't play the gamewhat did he mean by this
The new female lords are atrociously bad.
>>2114789I am confused? Is the Canary meant to have leprosy? Is this some weird genderbent Baldwin IV?
>>2119118looks more like the pox no?
>>2114789>>2119118>>2119229Place your bets on what kind of character she will be.So far we have>jewel aka strong grrrl power >kunthin aka kill all men
>>2114789>economic campaignhas that always been a thing? i never could get into stronghold because i hated the combat, but i really liked everything i saw from the economy, even the fact that you have to produce weapons for the troops. if i were to go and pick up stronghold right now, is there any way i can only play the economic aspect (like scenarios or campaigns) or do i have to wait for this update?
>>2119325i'm going with quirk chungusscreencap this
>>2119329sh1 has an eco campaign out of the box iirc but crusader will only have one after the next update
>>2119357coolio, thanks
The Sheriff is a Historically accurate Anglo.
>>2120884fr
I like fighting the Abbot, mostly because its fun to turn fat monks into porcupines.Those monks are quite bad, but they kill walls surprisingly fast.
>>2128115Monks have the highest dps in the game.
>>2094972There is some guy on youtube, rolling 7 hard AIs with just cavalry archers and assassins, that it? game solved?
>>2128419no because you need trillions to fund that strat which is not always viable or possible
>>2119118looks like a teenager with acne to me
>>2128115Too bad you only need to destroy his cathedral to cripple him, as he's often too poor to build another one. Still, not bad for low/middle tier AI lord
>>2115720I'm sure having 30 different AIs spamming horse archers and catapults would be fun
Anyone up for some friendly coop?(no americans)
>No we wont fix the bugs or improve the balance or disable clipping or anything else because its hecking nostalgic or whatever
>>2128642They actually fixed some of the bugs but there was an uproar and they reverted the fixes.>devs do something>rts niggers riot>devs do nothing>rts niggers riotReally can't win with you faggots
Already spent hundreds of hours playing it in my childhood so not buying it but im glad that new memes are being made about itthis is a god tier top quality shitposthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmutyrc2os4&list=RDFmutyrc2os4&start_radio=1
>>2132929Why? Do you think if you replay games you have played before you get arrested by the fun police?The video is dope though.
>>2132935i feel ive already spent enough time on it and cant squeeze any more joy out of it, got better things to do than hear the caliph scream INFIDEL at me for the 1000th time
>>2132937INFIDEL
>food is dwindling sire>It really isn'tsend him to the stockade
>>2095636>hills stand out from the flat terrain>iron mines blend into the iron so they're fucking camouflaged>vegetation looks plain worse somehowOther than that it's fine I guess.Not buying regardless. I don't buy sòymakes.
>>2096812Literally what difference does it make?
>>2134770Nothing, you just get a cool new lord sprite that can be used in multiplayer.
>>2134768the screenshots are really weird. everything posted here looks like ass but ingame it looks just like the original
>>2134916I meant protonmail. What does using protonmail change
>>2135090>make proton alias>send mail>delete alias>never get any mail from firecuck ever again
