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Talk about new mods, mods you're hyped for, etc.

CTS: campaigntrailshowcase.com/campaign-trail/index.html

NCT: newcampaigntrail.com/campaign-trail/index.html
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>>2107719
I'm excited for:
>Ross For Boss
>That John B Anderson Mod
pretty much any 3rd party candidate mods
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>>2107719
cool simulation but why is Mike Pence running with Trump in the 2020 scenario?
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I just played the '2000 redux' mod, it's terrible.
It's worse than the regular base TCT scenario.
Bush is the only one playable, but even if you cheat and pick only the best answers, you still can't win. Bush won that fucking election.
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>>2107894
>why is Mike Pence running with Trump in the 2020 scenario?
Because Mike Pence was Trump's VP nominee in the 2020 election
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>>2107719
what mod is this?
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>>2108055
It's the new version of Peace with Honor, it comes out in August.
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>>2108045
Oh yeah. Wow, for some reason I was thinking 2024.
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How did you guy feel about the divide state of America and is there a way to unlock all the candidates?
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>>2108356
it's shit
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>>2108360
How?
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>>2108356
To unlock the candidates you have to beat them first on Biden's side.
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>>2108368
Tonally confused, directionless libtard wank
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>>2108369
So there's no way to unlock all of them in one play through.
>>2108374
How would you fix it then?
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>>2108368
Palestine is a huge issue in the mod
over:
>economy
>migration (2 questions only)
>wokeness (no mention of the they/them ad which was super effective in our timeline)
those were the top 3 issues according to post election polls yet palestine is for some reason like half the mod
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>>2108170
Oh awesome, that'll be really cool.
PWH was such a groundbreaking mod, and still a good one, but it certainly could do with a punch up.
The CYoA mechanics were very simplistic, and not enough time was given to exploring the actual race with your opponent as opposed to the set up.
And the endings were very weak in the original mod, probably my least favorite element about PWH

The lack of a soundtrack is also a bit of a bummer, the songs always help make these mods come to life
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>>2108426
Palestine is something young left wing people can't stop obsessing over.
It's a core of their entire ideology.
I mean I do find it horrible that innocent kids are being starved and murdered by kikes, and I wish we had no connection to Israel, but it's not *that* big a deal for America.
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>>2108436
>And the endings were very weak in the original mod
I liked a few of them. The one where he wins Massachusetts and the other one where he wins all 50 states after confessing to everything. Also the one where he beats George Wallace and every President after him only serves one term before some misfortune befalls each of them
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>>2108468
my favorite ending was the Nixon political comeback in California
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Nixon did nothing wrong
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>>2108468
My favorite ending was November.
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Why do so many mods fail to grasp the lesson taught by TTNW - being able to do radically different paths and strategies with them all being viable is fun. Republican side is pure kino because it lets you play anywhere from old timey liberal republican to turboreactionary, and all of these strategies work so long as you use your brain and adapt to the situation. Meanwhile you get Class War, which by all accounts should be a Bernie powertrip mod, but its just a single path to victory with CYOA stats to shift your endslide text. TTNW GoP is timelessly effective - pick a strat in your minds eye and stick to it to be rewarded. It should be so easy to get right - be radical Bernie and get a Trump style campaign going where you become unsinkable. Be a full on sellout and shift the electoral map. Hammer out some bullshit feelgood, promise nothing real campaign. Etc etc.
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>>2109749
the mods people remember are the ones with replay value
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>>2109749
funnily there are plenty of classic style mods which don't even rely on convoluted CYOA mechanics that still allow different paths and strategies to winning elections through nothing other than solid question design.
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>>2108426
>wokeness (no mention of the they/them ad which was super effective in our timeline)
The base 2024 mod brings it up. Do you have any evidence it was "super effective?"

>>2108440
It was a huge issue for the Democratic electorate specifically. They hemorrhaged votes from demographics they counted on in 2020 because they were completely out of step with their base on this.
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>>2109943
>In the first episode of his podcast, This is Gavin Newsom, Democratic California governor Gavin Newsom agreed with his first guest, conservative activist Charlie Kirk, that "Kamala is for they/them" was the most politically harmful attack ad against Harris. "She didn't even react to it, which was even more devastating," Newsom said. He added that "it was a great ad."[24]
>Kamala is for they/them" was one of Trump's most effective 30-second attack ads, shifting the race 2.7 percentage points in favor of Trump after viewers watched it.
>However, the study also showed that public acceptance of trans people decreased by around 3-4 percentage points among those who watched the ad.
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>>2109984
>However, the study also showed that public acceptance of trans people decreased by around 3-4 percentage points among those who watched the ad
fucking lol
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I like how in the 1957Diefenbaker mod everyone hates Quebec so much that you can get a fairly sizable polling boost in basically the whole rest of Canada just by telling them to fuck off.
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One hidden gem that I really enjoyed is the 2024 Lithuania Social Democrat side. Its a very interesting in that it very much is a powerfantasy campaign due to how much the Conservatives a>>2110306
re hated and how much good will you have when compared to them, so the challange becomes not winning, but winning decisesivelly by using answers that in any other mod would be the "Oof, well this sure fires up the base but the moderate voters want none of it..." ones.
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>>2110329
Fuck, accidental reply...
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>>2109749
The problem with TTNW's GOP side is that its way too easy. Just select the right options on the vietnam questions and you'll win no matter what candidate or supposed strategy you're running.
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March on Washington creator is doing 1936 Spain next
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>>2111400
oh cool-
>CEDA won't be playable upon release
nvm it's going to be shit
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Are their candidates that you guys likes and wish have won the election?
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>>2111491
Perot
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>>2111520
I'm convince that if Carter won the 1980 election Perot would have run in 84?
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>>2111491
Taft in 1912
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>>2110565
Difficulty maxxing is unironically a cancer on modern CTS. Our Revolution was the ultimate example of it, hopefully now mods can become easier again. TTNW GOP felt just right.
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>>2111491
Henry Clay
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>>2111885
I simply play every mod on Cakewalk
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>>2111885
Theres a middle ground between ridiculously hard and ridiculously easy. I’m not saying it should be insanely difficult to win as the GOP candidates, but some degree of difficulty would improve the experience immensely. Having two questions that hand you a landslide takes away all the strategizing that the GOP side is supposed to have. It doesn’t matter if you’re running Lindsay or Reagan, Yorty or Rockefeller. You don’t have to develop an interesting way to win with certain candidates by utilizing their own specific quirks, you just select the same answers on the Vietnam questions every time and you get the win automatically.
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>>2111938
No shit losing Vietnam will make you win. Kennedy side is the same but in the other direction. Sure, its easier to do it as GOP, but its a compromise to have it included, and I'd say the mod is better off for you being able to replicate most things that happen on RFK side with Morton.
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>>2112190
Again, there is a middle ground here. I’m not saying the fall of Saigon shouldn’t be possible, I’m just saying it shouldn’t be so easy.
There are a lot of ways that they could have made the GOP path less braindead. For instance, some more pivotal Vietnam questions could be added and set to show up only if Morton fails to stop RFK’s domestic ambitions, which would serve three purposes. First of all it would give some more narrative weight behind the Vietnam issue on the GOP’s side (the Republicans going all in on foreign policy since RFK beat them on the domestic front). It would also serve to spread out the Vietnam questions so you don’t just have two buttons to hit that win the game for you. And letting Bobby get some wins early on would give him a bit more of an edge in the election, so even if/when Saigon falls its not a free 49 state blowout.
They could also have there be a cost push RFK toward losing Vietnam. The most obvious thing would be to give Bobby control over the FBI if you doom him on Saigon, but other variables could be used too (outrage, caucus unity, southern support) to make Saigon falling more of a trade off.
And this last one would be a big undertaking, but they could add unique endings/questions for the candidates depending on how Vietnam is going. That would at least give the player some variety as a reason for to not just hit the insta win button every game.
Really there are a lot of options, I think a combination of these three suggestions would sew up TTNW’s Republican side, and they could even be partially integrated on RFK’s side, since pulling out of Vietnam is similarly way too easy for him
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>wake up
>there's another mod set in the 1960s
>only playable party is democrats
>acts as if you know every democrat to ever live in that time span
it's endless
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>>2112562
omg I love playing heckin wholesome democrats (who really should be more socialist) I hate fascists
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PWH 2 tomorrow (I think)
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>>2114038
whats PWH?
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>>2114549
Peace with Honor. They're gonna release a new edition in a few hours.
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Is it possible as Biden to run for re-election, pass Sinema-Lankford, and force Trump out of the race in the same run?
I've been able to do it against Grok, but Trump going to prison always brings my credibility just too low.
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>>2115214
what mod are you referencing?
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>>2111532
Perot didn't even want to run in the first place.

>>2110306
Duplessis is an interesting character. He 100% was a hardliner conservative with bouts of McCarthyist style redscare, but he wanted absolutely nothing to do with Adrien Arcand and his fascist party, despite Arcand reportedly trying to convince him of 'embracing his role as a Strongman'.
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>>2115267
Reading up on this Arcand character he sounds pretty based.
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>>2115262
2024
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>>2115283
alas the Clergy overplayed their hand, became associated with everything that kept Quebecois in dire poverty, and now Quebec is even more secular than France is.
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>>2115322
sadge...
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So, what do (you) think of More Than Ever?
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>>2115393
I don't know and I have no real interest in playing it to find out.
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>>2115393
Insane how worse the endings are compared to the original
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>>2115393
>>2115393
CYOA has improved a lot and I like how there's an actual campaign now instead of just two questions about your opponent, but it could really go without the entirety of Hunter S. Thompson's Nixon eulogy at the end of every playthrough.
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>>2115393
>2115393
i like it alot, it seems abit to easy ngl, plus the long winded speech at the end can get tiring when you see it for the 5th time
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>>2115840
*too
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>>2115393
The endings suck so much. The original PWH had much better endings.
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>>2115393
In my view the new CYOA and reactivity are undermined by how they downplayed and ignored the possible fantasy/alt-history elements present in PWH. Definitely a downgrade.
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>>2108468
>winning every state used to result in nixon getting a moment of cathartic triumph
>winning every state now makes nixon kill himself, followed by a lecture about some faggot soldier also killing himself
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>>2116083
In this mod you can, as Nixon, barely do any Watergate shit, pass universal healthcare, sweeping welfare bonuses and environmental protection legislation, end the Vietnam war, save the economy from collapse, pass the ERA, focus hard on civil rights -- all shit that these progressive types should love, and the ending will still be about how much you suck and are some horrific monster.

Are they trying to get the player to sympathize and understand Nixon's plight? It plays in to his own paranoia and cynicism, that no matter what he did people would hate him, so he may as well do whatever it takes to accomplish what he thinks will be best.

The mods about segregationists or Trump are not nearly as vitriolic.
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>>2115903
It stinks that you can't confess to Watergate except in one path.
Like what's the point of a CYoA incumbency simulator for Nixon when you're locked in to doing Watergate and to not coming clean about it?

It's crazy to me that despite how good of a president, from a liberal or conservative standpoint, you can be as Nixon in More Than Ever, your reputation will still be ruined by Watergate, when in Things That Never Were, you can get the best ending while still murdering George Wallace.
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>>2116117
Funnily enough they even took away the option to RP as a fully segregationist Nixon so you literally can't be as much of an evil reactionary as you can be in PWH. PWH took a more nuanced approach to the segregation question, but in the new mod the only options are to be full on integrationist or a half-hearted "erm I kinda support segregation but not really"
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>>2115393
Worse than the original PWH in pretty much every way. worse endings, worse cyoa, and mandated libtard eulogy ending.
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>>2115267
okay then who else
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>>2115903
Pretty much, the original stood out since you felt in control, your actions mattered, if you did things differently you got different endings, they felt like pieces of other worlds. Hell, this is what makes CYOA mods so fun, the countless possibilities in terms of endings, so to essentially take that away ruins the fun and whole point of CYOA
>>2116083
Pretty much, it was supposed the triumph of Nixon, a victory over the Franklin's, the kooks, the naysayers. It also saddens me they removed my favorite ending (betray Liddy and CREEP and win all 50 states)
>>2116117
American Carnage, while unsympathetic, lets Trump "win," he can pass plenty of his agenda, and win in a landslide and get his daughter or himself to stick in the WH. Hell, W. handled the "no matter what what you lose" theme better, since no matter what route you go (Isolationist social conservative, warmongering NeoCon) Poppy never likes you. But it still feels like things change based on what you do
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>>2116469
yo' momma
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>>2115393
The new Ted Kennedy route where Nixon gets more and more insane is fun. Good soundtrack too.
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>>2115393
Why no ford for running mate?
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>>2116469
probably a firebrand like Buchanan.
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>>2117748
who would been the running mate and how big of a win
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>>2118077
you'd probably be looking to a moderate like Dole to balance the ticket, would be the boring answer. Depending on how Carter governs, you could also throw in a breakaway dem, possibly one unsatisfied by the Iranian situation, maybe even one from within the carter White House. Cheney was deeply involved with the GOP at that time, so he too could be an interesting option.

If you want to add a real Meme VP in the lot, go for Palin or Hoover: One's dead and the other's 20 at the time; both are uneligible, but that's never stopped CT before
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>>2107719
All that rapslop in DSA and not this murderkino?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2npZwzmT02Q
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>>2108356
it's still not wild enough. there should be more Dem candidates, worse fail states for a trump assassination etc
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actual black pill is realizing that Nixon 1972 had a more left wing platform than any candidate since, even including Obama or Biden
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>Someone made Wallace on Wplace near the other TCT postings
Wonder how long it will last.
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>>2118208
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>>2118224
Why does the Reddit love Burgum
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>>2118235
>Bans abortion
>Bans sex-changes for kids
>Bans critical race theory to be taught in schools
>Is still seen as a wholesome normal republican because everyone else in the Trump admin is a freak
Burgum Patriots keep winning.
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>>2118208
FINAL TRUTHNUKE.....
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I got perma banned from the subreddit for saying you should be able to win Vietnam in your scenario regardless of the cost otherwise your mod is shit lmao
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If you guys could make a mod what would it be about and why?
>>2117748
Not Pat Robertson?
>>2118105
>Cheney
Is that the one who has a lesbian and shot someone?
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What are the mods and scenarios that you know will never be released.
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>>2118937
we're probably not getting a Eugene Debs jail campaign
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>>2118937
Stassen 92
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>>2118693
I'd like to make a mod about the 1906 California Governors election.
It was a 4 way race which I like
Problem is I only really have ideas for the Republican and the Independence League candidates
>Republican is about the betrayal of the popular governor in favor of the railroads puppet
>Independence league advisor is William Randolph hearst
But I don't know what to write about for the Democrat and Socialist
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>>2118346
Kek
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>>2118346
It should be tied to triggering the Sino-Vietnamese war early. Dropping a nuclear bomb on Hanoi would be politically impactful but not make them surrender anymore than saturation bombardment did.
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>Viva Kennedy
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>>2118937
The creepypasta Bernie vs Reagan mod that was teased months ago. Shit seemed cool, but I doubt it will ever come.

>>2118345
>>2118208
Redpill is that the world would be way better if Nixon won 1960
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A figure from West Virginia who's willing to be on your ticket.
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So I just won all states as Nixon and apparently he killed himself right after? What the fuck, why?
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>>2120745
libcuck fantasy of a mod, the first one was so much better
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>>2115267
>wanted absolutely nothing to do with Adrien Arcand
That's because Arcand was a trve imperial patriot, not Quebecois nationalist scum.
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>>2120745
The mod says that it will make Nixon be remembered even more than Kennedy, since everyone will remember the President that killed himself after winning everything.
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>>2120932
Things That Never Were...
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white kids sure do love their hip-hop soundtracks
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>>2121481
the only one that used hip-hop/rap in a good/funny way was 2012 shattered, and that's it
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New Obamanation update dropped.
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this thread was resurrected so I can finally continue Agnew posting
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>>2123156
it's just integrating submod and changing margins to historic
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>>2125185
Wasn't Agnew sort of screwed no matter what? Even if Agnew's own scandals never came out,and assuming Watergate still happened, I feel like it would be exceptionally difficult for him to win in 76 hypothetically. It is interesting though since I feel like he would have easily wiped the floor with anyone, if his or Nixon's scandals were never discovered.
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>>2125188
Also added a new song to the gameplay soundtrack and a new song for beating Trump
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>>2125468
idc about that, I only beat Trump once and since than if I played against him I did it to self-sabotage myself and gain early Trump W
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>>2118235
they don't love him, they just don't hate him like they do with over Republicans. The advisor feedback for rep candidates is libshit, endings is libshit (ah yes, almost all reps are gonna lose in 2028 in half of endings)
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>>2125332
Would he been a good president?
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>>2125945
basado y redpilledo
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If you guys could make a mod what would it be about?
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>>2125954
no
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>>2126308
I'd like to do this as a 5 way race (Nader doesn't actively campaign)
from this alt-hist: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-reform-party-20-years-of-history.501582/reader/
The Canon ending is the Dem-Ref coalition with Ron Paul as VP.
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>>2125332
>I feel like he would have easily wiped the floor with anyone, if his or Nixon's scandals were never discovered.
Nixon fucking hated Agnew. If Watergate is never discovered then Nixon would’ve made sure that Connally was the nominee in ‘76, even if Agnew’s own corruption also went undiscovered
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What are some of the cringiest endings in TCT mods? For me it's The Radiant tomorrow ending.
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>>2128788
the Nixon suicide ending has to be up there.
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>>2128788
>Robert Kennedy’s “happy ending” where he dies in a fucking plane crash and they manage to slip in a palestinian kid shit talking him for bonus cringe points
>>2128941
You know what really bugs me about this? It’s not just that Nixon’s original 50 state sweep ending was superior, it’s that Nixon’s original suicide ending against Shirley Chisholm was superior
>It was the one time President’s daughter Julie who got the last word though. In an emotional speech, where she often seemed on the verge of tears, the 75 year old told the crowd, “I wish I’d known what my father was going through. I wish I could go back and tell him that it would be alright, that no matter what he or his staff did, we could get through this together. Daddy, wherever you are, I love you.” She continued. “I hope you know I’ll never stop loving you.”
We went from that to “How dare Nixon overshadow the faggot soldier’s suicide with his own suicide”
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>>2128968
Nearly every Republican TTNW ending is cringe, with each and every single candidate being treated as Satan himself who will destroy the American dream in some way.
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>>2128984
I’d say nearly every TTNW ending is cringe. I don’t give a fuck about seeing Bobby get a finger wagging from some rando theater actors. The mod is guilty of the very thing it claims to oppose. They say to stop taking a fandom approach, to stop misremembering who these people are. Yet they clearly didn’t do their homework on Bobby’s views on welfare, because staying true to his principles on the matter results in him being told that he’s done exactly the opposite
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>>2129022
The only good ending is getting almost assassinated against Hughes. It's the only one that, in my opinion, is narratively satisfying.
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>>2128788
'cringe' may be the wrong word but a lot of TTNW's endings fall into the trap of not actually talking about the impact of the presidency
the only one i remember that had any actual shit like that was wallace's and yorty's (though yorty's only mentions the fact the republican-AIP ticket becomes the establishment) and the one where the republicans use a luftwaffe-esque logo if you win massively as bobby but that's two ending slides slotted into shit like the lindsay one about some random interpretation of the election as troonslop written 50 years later
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>>2129030
If Barry Goldwater gets arrested, you get an ending about how Democrats retain a stranglehold on the white catholic vote. You can only get that ending on the Republican side though, not Bobby’s side
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>>2129040
yeah that stuff's pretty small but it's neat
on a tangential note, i remember how if barry gets called out for his daughter having an abortion while you're playing as him, you can actually get a bit of text talking about he becomes the candidate of the hippy libertarian types which is neat worldbuilding
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>>2118263
>This is now the second top post of the week on the Reddit
>Now they are acting like Doug Burgum is actually a super evil RepubliKKKan because he doesn't give HRT to kids
lol
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Reminder that you can't win the Bloomberg scenario.
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Well well well, speak of the devil, anyone played catfishing today?
catfishing.net
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>>2129048
I actually managed to win as Goldwater despite this happening, although obviously I wasn't arrested.
Pretty sure a couple of Northern states went for me.
Hard to imagine that not having a cataclysmic effect on the future of American gender politics?
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>>2107719
>words words words
damn I fucking love VIDEO GAMES
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>>2129813
I immediately noticed the backpedaling and it was extremely funny
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Did Sweet Home's difficulty get tweaked? I used to be able to reliably win the SRP route on normal difficulty but I just tried again and somehow lost to deGraffenried by ~5 percentage points.
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>>2128788
I always found it odd how Robert Rubin’s W. ending deepthroats the fuck out of him when he’s exactly the kind of guy that they despise
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>>2130669
The entire jobs route seems to completely suck off your opponent that it's unreal. Everything you do, the advisor feedback twists into something everyone hates.
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>>2130780
Isn’t that partly because you have to get zero wins in order to get Jobs? Bush is supposed to be a total fuckup in that route. In that context Steve Jobs is supposed to be his opposite, ultra assertive guy that always gets shit done
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DSA GOT UPDATED, now it's less democrat-biased in margins
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>>2130780
In the ending it hints that Jobs is anti-vax and like an RFK stand-in.
Plus you can beat him by tying him to Chinese off-shoring.
Still the Jobs route is hilarious. I love when you try criticise him and he responds with "listen, folks, he's just fucking stupid!"
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>>2131047
What did they even updated?
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>>2131047
>trump's draggable campaign HQ is grok
kek, i have to admit it genuinely tickled me
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>>2126308
Something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=396f4S0cP5M
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>Trump re-election althist
>Youngkin as Republican nominee

also 1824 is out
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>>2133727
1824 is quite good, the contingent election is fun. Didn't figure out how to win without compromising yet though. Hopefully the other sides come out soon enough.
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For me, it's the ending where you drop out and endorse Andrew Jackson, making him president 4 years early
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>>2134744
my favorite is this one
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>>2108426
>Palestine is a huge issue in the mod
>over wokeness
Isn't Palestine a subset of wokeness?
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>>2135601
Eh, not quite the same level as trans was for the election.
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TCT fucking ruined HOI4 and I hope all TCT modders commit suicide.
Game looks alright though it just seems to attract the worst fucking subhuman filth on the face of the fucking earth.
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>>2135912
Don't worry, TCT modders ruined TCT too.
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>>2136163
Make your own blockbuster, scene-changing mod then. Nothing's stopping you.
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>>2136304
>Make mod
>Release it
>Mango or some other tard works day and night to shut it down
What's the point?
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>>2136326
Resist the urge to add racist slurs and nazi dogwhistles and you'll be fine.
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>>2136356
You disingenuous faggots call anything a 'nazi dogwhistle' to get mode removed from the launcher sites, don't play coy.
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>>2136555
This.
They literally nuked a mod that was actively making fun of white nationalist and the great replacement just because a minor coding error caused a response to increase public support
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>>2136555
You’re just making excuses for yourself.



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