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Is after the end worth playing? If so which version? Also CK2 thread
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>>2108622 (checked)
AtE is mostly good in concept but it started to get some major problems near the end of its development lifetime due to a tranny dev adding traits for modern mental disorders and a muslim dev making some cringe-oc donutsteal self-insert who basically takes over California by event.
I recommend using the deposed submod made by one of the anons here. It reverses most of the cringe:
https://github.com/DeposedAnon/After-the-End-Deposed
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>>2108622
>If so which version?
Fan Fork if you're a wokescold. Deposed if you're a chud.
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>>2108656
>>2108637
Okay so there's deposed, fan fork and the anniversary edition? (excluding the asian/european ones)
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>>2108668
i think anniversary edition is the latest version of the fan fork
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>>2108668
Well deposed is a submod of the fan fork
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anyone know the current state of the CK3 mod? I know the muslim dev fell out of favor so his OC has a tiny rump state with no events, so that's good at least
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>>2108622
CoomerKings for cumskinned jizzbrains
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I'm trying after the end but honestly I expected more unique events and mechanics
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>>2108622
I played a lot of it back in the day. Got kind of burned out, but it's understandable, after so many hours. I would return to it if they updated WTWSMS mod tho.
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>>2110369
some regions have more new stuff going on than others. also some of the new stuff is straight up garbage, like aforementioned muslim in socal
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>>2110963
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/wtwsms-2025-interim-release.1853928/
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>>2114629
Yeah, seen it, Nice.
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>>2108622
answer: yes, it's worth playing. use the latest version on the forum (second to last page on the thread for After the End Fan Fork) with the deposed submod here: https://github.com/DeposedAnon/After-the-End-Deposed
i like to use it with the Better Looking Garbs mod with the AtE compatibility patch, as well as my own personal set of fixes for graphics issues with some americanist portraits and some units
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>>2108637
Adding Islam would be fine if they at least did something interesting with it. Some new post-Event movement emerging or adding Nation of Islam, since that's an actual large Islamic group specific to America, which does have believes that would fit the setting. But they instead added generic non-denominational Islam, Twelver Shia and a group based on Shriners who are just Masons who dress up as Egyptians, not actual muslims. Which is overall still more than Jews who's believes were apparently totally unaffected by the apocalypse.
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>>2118330
progressing
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>>2120000
how's Barron doing?
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>>2114629
Are Christian council events and dynamic rise of Muhammad in the mod? Or was that never finished?
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>>2120310
he likes "cuddling" with men, which seems about right
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>>2120380
it has a game rule for dynamic islam but says it's in beta
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>>2120695
continuing
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>>2108622
Interesting characters in the Charlemagne and Old Gods starting date?
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>>2126735
Many, you can't throw a stone without hitting some obscure ancient dynasty. Last heir of Frisia, Folcwalding count surrounded by the Franks and Persian Hephalite count in India (Hunas dynasty) come to mind
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Interesting_characters_guide
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bros do you have any ideas on submods for hip to play with
>>2121274
marry ur daughter to the black king
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>>2108622
>If so which version?
Crusader Finns
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>>2127961
kino
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>>2128519
kek
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So how are your campaigns going?
I am currently conquering india as a gay retard
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>>2135378
I really need to get back to Chud campaign, have had little time to play in months
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>>2135443
go south for those huge khazar milkers
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>>2135443
I always forget how the custom empire acquisition works with nomads. You could become the empire of Chud.
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>>2108622
There's alot of fag and feminist crap i don't like existing in AtE. I removed the addition of the bisexual trait though via its events.
>>2108622
Does it remove the feminist nonsense in Canada?
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>>2135378
Just finished (part 1)
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>>2141902
a (part 2)
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>>2141908
DoD (part 3)
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>>2108622
in taberna quando sumus
non curamus quid sit humus
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>>2135443
AN ETHNIC SLUR
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>>2141653
Slavs, balts and finno-ugric peoples are tribal in most start dates
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>>2108622
does anyone know the requirements to settle as feudal in ck2+? I made a custom nestorian nomad so I could conquer transoxiana and make a nice christian kingdom in central asia, I conquered the land but my only option is to settle as tribal. I personally own all the holdings
is it a minimum tech requirement? I started iron century so its like 950ish and tech is minimal
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>>2145268
I looked through the decision files and I guess they removed settle as feudal directly, you have to settle as tribal and then "reform" to feudal by spending tons of prestige to increase tribe authority since you already meet the other requirements by settling in a feudal county
you also lose the manpower > event troop conversion so you have to conquer the land and hold it long enough for the negative modifiers to go away so you start with troops
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>>2141902
>>2141908
>>2141911
How do you manage to get Civil Wars to be this devastating dragon-wise? Is it a matter of RNG?
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I tried to form Switzerland but became emperor instead
This was the first time I started as a count and ended up emperor
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>>2145815
is this part of your master plan or were you elected out of nowhere?
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>>2145795
I use the Dragon's Peace mod. The dragon re-work portion of the mod increases dragon injuries and death during duels and ensures that the dragon duel loser's rider is guaranteed to die or be crippled if their dragon dies. https://agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/4597/agot-dragons-peace-3-2025
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>>2145815
Now do the right thing and destroy the >HRE
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>>2146015
I paid no attention at the HRE succession at all
My character was diplomacymaxxing which lead to him being chancellor of three different emperors, so the other dukes thought he was a cool guy or something
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>>2146015
crashing this holy roman empire, with no survivors!
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hello?
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>>2152289
Good morning Sir
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>>2152303
hello
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Still can't forget my first campaign when I found out after one of my characters died and the oldest son inherited that neither my new ruler nor any of his siblings were actual children of my previous character and thus, not actual members of the dynasty, as the real father of them all was the mom's 50 year old uncle, who was her tutor and had been fucking her from day one since she arrived in my court as a fresh 16 year old and I was immediately told she was pregnant
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>>2152542
personally would have stopped the campaign right there unless I could marry a true member of the dynasty. The bloodline must remain unbroken
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Play WTWSMS.
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>>2153344
pls
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I like HIP but my wealth being split between all children sure is ass
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Typical (1)
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Targaryen (2)
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Shenanigans (3)
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now that i upgraded my pc i prefer ck3 over ck2
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>>2108622
I'm trying to play as a Cristo Rey but the coronation event is borked and all my vassals keep getting pissed at me even though the tacopope loves me and I've wasted 400 gold
Now the questions are: did I get epic trolled by Deposed or is this a legit bug in the main AtE, and can it be fixed or should I pivot to Sagrado Corazon
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>>2163940
YER MONEY OR YER LIFE
>>2164054
I would bet on ATE, they did really shit job with the final update
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>cucked by a Wetermen
I'll kill them both later.
>>2163940
While some things can be fixed by mods (e.g; global gavelkind, faggotry, women becoming mayors and being eligible for immersion breaking events), other important things such as the garbage warfare system cannot be fixed without a dev redesign.

And somehow, paradox was able to make an AI so braindead that it suicides into bankruptcy and realm dissolvement very quickly and can't even use basic mechanics such as MAA stationing properly. CK3 is a mess.
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>>2164140
i don't really care about the wars
there are so many blobs but it's more fun to play
i feel like there're more features than ck2 with ck3 mods at this point
also ck2's ui objectively looks worse when ur pc is good enough for ck3
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>>2163940
I've done zero (0) research but CK3 looks ugly and I get the impression they haven't added much besides making your character turning into a immortal syphillitic magician the norm rather than the exception.
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>>2163940
All paradox games are fucking dogshit. My fucking ck3 Matilda of Tuscany game got fucking ruined because the dogshit game said I didn't occupy my war goal and it gave me -180 ticking warscore. I literally occupied every province in my claim and then some, without the HRE army showing up. This was about 8 hours into the run after I usurped Italy. This game is fucking dogshit. this was my day off fucking ruined. a 2 billion dollar company cannot fix basic fucking bugs like not recognizing your occupation. Every paradox game sucks ass. Don't get me wrong I am not a dumbass ck2 fan who is going to complain about 'woke', all these games are fucking broken, they just churn them out and require you to spend 100 dollars for the complete game including DLCs. if /vst/ had any sense they would complain about the broken ass spaghetti code in these games instead of women mayors. This is a 2 billion dollar company that charge shundreds of dollars for a game, yet cannot even fix basic fucking issues like your occupation not counting. While third worlders make mods better than the base game for free.
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One down. Jaime's sword didn't save him vs Valyrian steel.
>>2164589
>i don't really care about the wars
Then you don't care about the game. An empty sandbox where the AI crumbles all around you due to an inability to handle basic in-game systems is a hollow and pointless experience.
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>>2164608
>they just churn them out and require you to spend 100 dollars for the complete game including DLCs
"buy base game on -75% sale and then pirate all dlc" chads ww@
but yeah the games are only playable with heavy modding and regular console commands/save editing because they're so fucking broken
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>>2164063
surprise surprise, you're right main AtE is the culprit
I found someone on r*ddit who had the same issue and had the decency to post what he did to fix it, so I'll go the hard route and attempt to keep the holy order as well since I barely started the campaign and losing the small quirk that sets the religion apart forever would blow harder than just bricking my save
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just stole the holy prepuce
epic
just epic
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>>2164608
>I literally occupied every province in my claim and then some, without the HRE army showing up.
Why would they surrender if you hadn't even beaten them in battle yet?
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Despite an annoying bug with the dragonkeeper title being duplicated with noculture scrubs, the Dragon Rework mod has became mandatory for me due to its regulation of the dragon population via less eggs and more lethal dragon duels. In another long 200 year save (Aegon VI), the population went out of control with 150 dragons and not much in the way of deadly Targaryen civil wars.
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>>2165702
(2)
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I was hoping for her to demand a trial by combat, but her grand nephew had to butt in. Luckily she had a stillborn.
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Do people play multipayer still? I’ve never got a chance to play multiplayer CK2 and would like to try it out
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>>2166012
I do with a friend, it desyncs once in a while but it's playable if you're patient
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I tried ck3 after a long time and wow the events have so much text in them, I feel like the same event in ck2 would be 50% or 60% the size of a ck3 one
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>>2166841
I wouldn't mind if it was well written or immersive but it's simply poor. For example, they frequently switch between first and third person so there's no narrative consistency. They're also anachronistic, with 12th century medieval nobility speaking like tumblrtards.
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How do you get wives as an adventurer? Only way I know is rescue a fair subject.
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>>2166841
Yeah i just stopped reading. I just click on the buttons after seeing the modifiers as if they're eu4 events
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>>2166895
>>2167253
Also, ck2's soundtrack moggs
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>>2108637
>a muslim dev making some cringe-oc donutsteal self-insert who basically takes over California by event.
An OC who is literally descended from HIM mind you. I'm pretty sure that Shia dev got kicked off the dev team for being homophobic
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>>2164604
There is no magic/supernatural stuff in vanilla CK3 (but it's heavily carried by mods that do have it) but the game heavily focuses more on being the sims medieval rather than a political/history simulation, they leaned heavily into 50 billion joke events
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>>2118676
>Which is overall still more than Jews who's believes were apparently totally unaffected by the apocalypse.
Those got added because the lead dev at the time was a Jewish tranny that wanted "representation"
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>>2167467
ok which song packs am i supposed to disable because anything that sounds like the base game ost is heavenly but then i get 3 songs in a row where its
>shitty techno remix
>metal cover
>soft rock ballad with a womeme on the mic
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the forgotten realm mod is bretty good
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>>2167899
I'm pretty sure it's the only total conversion mod that still gets updates
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>>2167768
just look them up, should be obvious. the techno one is called "house lords" iirc
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>>2168202
If you call making new cuck events and adding static PNGs updates, then yeah sure it's getting updates.
Only a fifth of the religions don't force you to be okay with your wife sleeping with other dudes. Why must every mod team be infested with weird sex people?
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>>2167899
Is that the dnd one? I thought it was shit. Everything is the same from one corner of the map to the other, same buildings, same units, it's just vanilla ck2 with a fantasy coat of paint
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>>2168523
>Forgotten Realms
entirely lore accurate to be 100% horny weirdo freakshit
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>>2168968
Yeah the fuckhead adventurers sure. But I'm sure a dragon is 100% cool with his consort being railed on the side. He's gonna bond over it with his buddy the centaur khan whos also getting cucked.
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I'm wondering if it's worth it to resign from your liege's council and take the prestige loss in order to avoid staying in their court when their capital is in the middle of an epidemic.
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>>2168523
>Why must every mod team be infested with weird sex people?
trans folx are the most dedicated coders
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>>2118676
I don't mind Orientalism because it follows the same formula a lot of the new religions in the former US do where someone took a look at something relatively random in the post-apocalypse (1001 Arabian Nights, Aladdin, and Shriner aesthetics) and decided that would be their new religion. Yeah, they're silly, but so are the Occultists and Norse Larpers.
I think the twelver Shia was made for the aforementioned OC donutsteal and idk much about the generic Islam. Is that the one they use down in Suriname at game start?
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>>2169786
>I think the twelver Shia was made for the aforementioned OC donutsteal
It is, but it has an interesting heresy that's basically Chinese influenced Islam, you know something that actually represents how religions changed. The deposted mod keeps this heresy around even
>Is that the one they use down in Suriname at game start?
Yes, there's also Muslim rulers around Chicago and in New York
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>>2168991
This just sounds like average seduction scheme shenanigans to me
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>>2126735
Off the top of my head
>Charlemagne and his brother
>King of Lombardy
>King of Asturias
>King of Sweden (who's son is Ragnar Lothbrok)
>Literally anybody in the British thunderdome
>Khan of Bulgaria
>Zunists in Afghanistan



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