SOUTHAG is outThis div is super fun
i hear there were new drones introduced that instantly fly to your side of the map and then your FOBs get nuked. is this true?
>>2133143Yes.Drones by design aren't targetable by ground AA.The new DLC introduces a drone the canadians designed in the 60, which is basically a missile with a camera. You can just fly it straight to the enemy spawn at the start of team games and spot all their FOBs and there's fuck all pactoids can do about it.Since SOUTHAG released, 10v10 winrates have trended dangerously close to 50/50 so of course Eugen has vowed to promptly address the issue and fix the bug where Pact could lose.
>>2133157damn, i was worried that it was a PACT drone like that schmel that was added earlier. i may have to play some warno 10v10s tonight.
>>2133143yes, bring a shotgun fighter in your openerI tend to play with at least one of my buddies, so we go out of our way to fob spot to try and fuck the artillery spammers
>>2133157idk T-72 spammers tend to choke when I send 8 AMX10s at them 17 pen lmao, get fuckedwarno truly is a game made in france
>>2133183PACT also gets drones
>>2133250NATO doesn't get a million broken ass MLRS to guzzle supply so they barely even have a reason to bring FOBs in 10v10. Now Pact has to actually play the fucking game for a change, how horrifying.
What's the the lore reason drones cannot be targeted by AA?
>>2133255i bring fobs to help my team and resupply my infinite infantry/ifv spam as NATO
>>2133246>buddieswhere do i make a warno buddy?
>>2133273It's true to life. Drones are too small. Most radar are tuned to clear out small returns because they would mostly be from birds and ground clutter. They would have to be re-tuned to detect drones, at the expense of flooding their return with clutter, or be designed specifically to detect objects the size and shape of drones while tuning out other small returns. We have the latter now, after decades of development in the drone warfare space but for most of the service life of cold war drones, the opposing side didn't even know they existed.
what PACT div has the most metis spam? i love spamming dragon squads as the US.
>>2133117I thought it was still in beta or whatever?I looked last night and it wasn’t in my game yet.
>>2133143>>2133157>>2133255>>2133277fag enjoyer
>>2133273Drones can be targeted by AA units, just not those with radar weapons. This issue has already been raised and will be resolved by extending targetability to radar SPAG.
>>2133463Join Waryes discord (mostly fags but whatever)dont be a fag enjoyerplay 1v1
>>2136264it's called "early access" and that's only for people with enough brain to not buy the expansion pass. Us paypiggies have the DLC (minus AGs, minus 2 divisions)small indie company, please understand that 8 months wasn't enough
does anyone even play steel division anymore? they kinda fucked up the long-term potential of the game by never releasing a map editor.
>fob spottingformer red dragon player here who is disgusted at eugen for still not fixing one of the worst cheese strategies in their previous game
>>2137641FOBs are cancer and shouldn't even be in the game. Any cheese that deletes them is not just good for the game but morally correct.>oh no I lost my 150pt infinite supply cheat I guess now I'll have to actually play the game instead of spamming grads foreverLike what a thing to bitch about.
How difficult is the map editor to use in WARNO? Any idea on how much gb a community map takes up on average?
>>2137666I mean, it sounds like you’re the one with the skill issue.
>>2133592If it turned out the Canadians had the wunderweapon of Cold War gone hot.
So what's the final verdict on the SOUTHAG divisions? Which ones are broken vs just decent vs terrible?
>>2138612you can do your first map, although an ugly one, in 2-3 hours. It's very well made, the difficulty being that most things were designed for french minds so you sometime have things that are hard to guess such as "hlm" meaning big tower-like building.There are good resources on youtube.The maps I have installed (the playable state) are between 200 and 350 mB. I assume that it's bigger before being processed into a playable state.>>2140738All divisions are pretty good, Eugen did an amazing job this time. It could be said that they need to be toned down a bit... the outliers are 303, because it has no ATGM and has to rely on mig 21 cluster or 7 T-72s, and LuftLande which has terrible AA cover with very low range which is fine as long as you don't face Canada...But we'll see, we are still waiting for Rhine and 17ya and I heard Rhine is mediocre at best, probably contender for worst Nato div, while 17ya was nerfed again and again for being way too strong (super air spam plus super cost-effectiveness)Overall Southag is much better than Northag, if only it got released.........
Trying to play some coop with a friend but we keep getting wild desyncs without notification, the sort of shit where we end up playing two different games entirely. What gives? I see there's a patch today that was supposed to fix this but the problem just seems even worse.
>>2140910>200-350mb per map as a high estimatedang, not too bad. sucks they could never figure out how to do a map editor for sd2.
>>2141344are you guys certain taht yo'ure on the patched version ? 166262
>>2142033We most certainly are, and no mods or anything. It's a damn shame since WARNO is much more engaging for us than SD2, but the latter doesn't desync at least.
>>2142089isnt there a testbuild for warno in the beta options to better log desyncs to help eugen fix them? could try that
>>2137480I play it. It's is still fun. 10v10 is cancer, but thats the case in every eugen title.The only problem is, you sometimes have to wait ~10-20min for enough people to play 3v3/4v4. But you can still find quick play 1v1 games in ~2mins.
I love bullying retards with this deckyes you have t-72sbut I have 17 pen and a dream
there's something so fun about getting a tank horde into a salient and then just fucking the entire rest of the 10v10 in the side
>>2143708This is how like 90% of my 10v10s end. You can be winning your side hard and then suddenly there's an entire tank tab's worth of T-80UDs followed by a horde of AA folding the guy to your left and suddenly it's 3, 4 or 5v1
finally bought the tribute to normandy 44 dlc, and 101st airborne is pretty fun to play. why eugen had to insist on how bad they'd be for years and not adding them until late into sd2s lifecycle is something i'll never understand.
NATO should've declared war on the Soviets, the difference in both numerical and qualitative values between the two forces was tremendous. Soviet nukes are all inaccurate rust buckets and a paper tiger.
>>2133117I got Wargame Red Dragon but I am unsure of how to play it (both strategy wise and in navigating the UI) and saw someone online say Wargame European Escalation is a sort of tutorial for this series, is that true?
>>2139894But the Canadian drone isn't like the Ukrainian war quadcopter drones. It's much larger and faster, with higher altitude (less ground clutter for radar).It should be obvious to radar systems that objects travelling 300-400km/h are not birds.
>>2145237How smart do you think 1980s military computers were? The radar is tuned to not display returns below a certain gain threshold. It's not doing anything more fancy than that.Until drones and stealth, there really wasn't a need for radars to be smart, because the operator is smart. That's why you would need a radar specifically designed to do the necessary backend work. You can't have a computer with the cpu power of a graphing calculator do complex processing work in real time.
>>21452441980's US had magic pebbles in full production, Soviet Union collapsed because their nukes were worthless.
STOP PLAYING 10V10 GROW SOME BALLS FAGS
>>214625810v10 is fun though. how easy is it to get similarly ranked 1v1s and 2v2s?
>>2146497>Similarly rankedImpossible, the player pool is too small. As a new player you'll get stomped by too 10s in 90% of your matches and once you hit gud you'll be fed a regular stipend of literal first timers to flatten into the pavement. It's a miserable experience all around.2v2s are hosted almost exclusively as in-house custom games organized on one of the competitive discords a d there's basically 0 interest outside of the top tourneyfags who also run 2v2 tourneys occasionally.
>>2146568fug. guess i'll stick to 10v10s and sometimes 1v1 vs friends.
>>2146820He is overstating it, as a semi-new player running ranked I've only rarely felt I was turbo outskilled.
>>2146568Sounds like someone’s salty they’re stuck in the kiddie pool. Practice or peace out, champ>>2146820Please reconsider and dont listen to that fag, there are many Discords with new players at your level and veterans who can give you real advice, so you can practice and improve. 10V10 is litterally AIDS
>>2147015>>2147055maybe i will try ranked then.
>struggle vs 119y>watch a guide on the matchup, guide basically boils down to "spam atgms and spread them out to cover different angle and find side shots>copy their exact layout on the exact map they use as a demonstration>midgame push rolls through exactly like it does in the video>all of my ATGMs miss and the tanks just push straight through>my AA and fighters all miss their air cover so I can't use bombers or helis>loseThis is the shit guides never talk about. How am I supposed to win from behind? How am I supposed to claw my way back into a match when RNG fucks me over? How do you win the air war when your missiles miss? How do you kill tanks when your ATGMs whiff? Literally what is the strategy here when dealing damage even in the best possible situation is a coinflip at best?
>>2148145ive had success in team games with backhand blows where 119y or other armored decks overextended themselves and either myself or a closely coordinated teammate would flank them. expect to lose a few if not a lot of units but the trade is usually worth it.
>>2148145quit for the day and come back tomorrow
how am i supposed to use the hellcat in sd2? they miss 3 shots then die to everything in the game with AP. am i supposed to double vet them or single vet them and bring them in triplets? sometimes i'd bring them in doubles and they still fucking sucked.everything else about 4th armored is fun, but i really miss my m10a1s from 2nd indian. i end up wanting to rip my hair out when i watch my hellcats.
