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Vic 3:
>Boot up game
>Play Cambodia
>Click on research
>Choose Stock exchange tech
>Takes 38 months to research
>Congrats, Cambodia has a stock exchange by 1840
>End serfdom by the 1850s
>Surpass European GDP per capita by the 1880s

Vic 2:
>Boot up game
>Play Cambodia
>Click on research
>Realize you can't research yet because you need to modernise first
>Cambodia has low literacy so it takes until about the 1870s to modernise
>Now you can start researching stock exchange
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>>2134387
Vic 2 is clearly implying some nations are better than other because they are less ignorant, that is problematic nowadays sweety.
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Shut up niggo, niggie
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>>2134387
'Westernising' is eurocentric mechanic chud. It never happened.
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>>2134510
Why didn't all of Africa and Asia migrate to Europe in Victoria 2 like in Victoria 3 and real life?
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>>2134510
Where in the OP is "westernising" mentioned?
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>>2134387
Vic 2:
>Stock Exchange
>Tax Efficiency: +5%
>Tax Efficiency: +1% x3 in Inventions
Vic 3:
>Stock Exchange
>+10% Market access price impact
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>>2134564
What's wrong with that?
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>>2135410
Nothing. OP's complain is ridiculous, because tech research isn't a building, but an abstraction.
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>>2135481
OP's complaint is that Cambodia shouldn't be equal to the western so quickly due to it
s historic position in the 19th century
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>>2135483
OP is a dumb faggot. In Victoria 2, technology costs 1,890,000 points, spread across 150 techs, while each country can generate 2,874,375 points max.

Victoria 3 has 198, with most countries starting with 20-30. Era I are all pre-1836 techs. Stock Exchange is an Era I tech. 2,135,000 Total points of research are needed. Era I costs 285,000, so you can exclude them, for European countries, anyway. With 100% literacy the universities will provide you with 1,040,000 points throughout the game.

Are you starting to see the difference between research approaches here? Why Victoria 2 might need staggering, but 3 simply doesn't? No "westernization" research points to abuse making a backwards shithole into a super-pooper here, buddy. Allegations of Victoria 3 non-Europeans being able to catch up quickly are straight up fucking lies. Try launching a game as Madagascar, which starts with only 3 techs researched. Then shut your stupid fucking mouth.
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>>2135508
Now guess which game allows you to easily surpass the gdp per capita of the US in 1855 as fucking Cambodia.
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>>2135483
This argument starts and ends with Eurocentric racism.

Why should Cambodia not even have access to the tech tree? Culture is not linear.

Cambodia was a long existing highly developed and complex society. Explicitly making it inferior to Western nations is nothing more than racism.
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>>2134387
Vic2 was glazing western nations.
Vic3 is more realistic.
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>>2135668
turd world cope
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>>2135667
Because brown people are inferior to Europeans.
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>>2135709
But Japanese would beat white people at their own game.
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>>2135717
>only country on earth to be nuked, not once but twice
>american vassal state for almost a century
>buckbroken by america in the 1850s. forced to open its doors.
>highest suicide rates in the world
>degenerate anime culture
they are inferior. they are certainly the best in asia, but inferior to whites.
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>>2135508
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>>2135726
>>degenerate anime culture
have you seen what white nations have been producing for the last decades?
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>>2135726
>only country on earth to be nuked, not once but twice
Because a) the US feared the proper invasion would be too costly; b) they really didn't want the USSR to get inside Japan; c) they needed to scare Soviets in case they would get any ideas in Western Europe.
>american vassal state for almost a century
>buckbroken by america in the 1850s. forced to open its doors.
The U.S. themselves were a mere colony for more than a century.
>highest suicide rates in the world
Not according to the data, I believe it is only 17th or so, with the U.S. actually not so far behind. Interestingly, it is Koreans who are among the leaders. Are you sure you didn't mix things up?
>degenerate anime culture
Well, for me Japan is a country of Akutagawa and Abe, of Kurosawa and Kobayashi. If you primarily associate Japan with anime it speaks not about Japanese culture, but about your taste and knowledge.
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>>2135747
>Are you sure you didn't mix things up?
they all look the same to me
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>>2134387
Oh wow, being an undeveloped stone age shithole until Europeans came along to unfuck the non-existent civilization takes some time to deal with? Wow, what a story, anon!
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>>2134555
I don't think you have reading comprehension.
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>>2134387
And how it was in Vic1?
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>>2134387
Westernization is such a good concept in this game. The nations that are "uncivilized" do not have any of the prior institutions to make the basic pillars of a modern society of that time. Uncivilized is not a good term since it incorporates both tribal africa (which would be correct on its own) but also japan, china, siam, ect. The actual mechanic itself though represents their progress towards being able to even start progressing as a modern nation.
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HOI4
>Boot up game
>Play Ethiopia
>Have two research slots
>Pick early plane and tank
>in 120 days a subsaharian country in 1938 can domestically produce airplanes and tanks
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>>2136033
if you can produce a motor then you can produce a plane or tank
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>>2136034
Not really, because you have to produce a motor powerful enough.
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>>2136045
Not necessary to produce them yourself.
You can wait for Italian invasion and repurpose the engines of Moto Guzzi and Benelli bikes that they brought along.
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EU3 did it right.
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>>2134387
So vic 3 is an arcade game?
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>>2135668
1/10
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>>2135717
In what timeline? They were backwards until forceably enlightened in 1860 by americans.
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Is there any downside to letting GB, France etc. invest in my country? Seems like an easy way to build up your GDP.
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>>2135667
Cambodians ARE inferior thoughbeit
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>>2136152
I wouldn't give it to GB since you will have a really difficult time getting those buildings back but if you can force nationalize them later through war sure, it lets you get more jobs faster at the cost of your capitalists/industrialist IG and your reinvestment pool
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>>2136112
Yes.



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