>>2167441
Who the hell draws all of these

>>2167445
Jay found artists, auteurs

>Rakkaz MT hides that you need Renowned Divinations or Illusions behind an MT expansion
This MT is pretty bad.

>>2167445
>>2167446
I assume he went on a furry forum?

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>Kobold Time
>Have an absolutely crazy expansion phase in the early game, own entire Dragon Coast+Serpentshead by 1470
>Ally with Grombar so Lorent and Gawed stop attacking me off truce
>Help Grombar a bit
>Grombar decides he's done with me
>Sitting on my border
>89k in 1520
>War Wizard

I have created a monster.

>>2167628
In other news my Colonial Ventures are going well.
Dalaire is mostly uncontested save for... Grombar, of course, on the outer islands. Broken Coast is about to get formed, the spawnables just turned on and I'm planning to launch some early Wars of Oppression once my Broken Coast nation spawns. I just finished vassalizing+integrating Zurzumexia and stomped Mestikardu so the Triarchy should be dead relatively soon.
I've snagged Westport and have plans to expand in Deranne and Sorncost if Grombar gives me some breathing room; I can easily 1v1 Lorent right now and Gawed is dead.
With some spare colonists - at one point I had 3 colonists - I was able to snag a lot of important trade nodes on the Sarhal Coast so I'm set up for basically a century of overseas trade node blobbing now, I just need the damned forcelimit to be able to have an army drilling/ready to respond to an attack from Grombar/suppressing rebellions and another one fighting colonial wars.

I'm really out of the loop, is there a big winter EU4 update in the making or are we not getting it this time with the Vic mod release? I can't imagine that the entire mod team suddenly transitioned to a different game

>>2167649
The next update is for sure the Australia one, those nations are already on the git (but with generic ideas and no missions). When is it dropping? I have no fucking clue
>transitioned
The dev team are experts at that

>>2167431
If you're behind on institutions, being a tributary to someone who has them should give you spread (and the reverse applies too)

>>2167441
I don't care I'm still not playing vic3

>>2167670
At this point I'm convinced jaybean got paid by paradox to tardwrangle his tranny coders into making a vic3 mod

>>2167441
Threadly reminder that Castan Beastbane did nothing wrong

>>2167721
He's /ourguy/. That one sorrow mt is not canon

gold koboldiggas run this thread

>>2167678
anbennar was already meant to be a vic 2 mod

I think Jay likes the era

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wow the ACE viking harpy tree is already way better than the base anbennar one

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I have an announcement to make. Zokka is a bitchass slaver and he won't escape me forever. Also Zokka is gaaaaayyyy

>>2167516
Would be a logical choice. Allows him to pick out of a plethora of artist and the majority has experience with the subject matter.

>>2167756
>vaengheim
>super setup
>tree is another generic "conquer half the world and become friends with everyone" pos

What determines the culture change in Escann? It's 1540 and I'm still Redfoot halfing as Newshire

>>2167780
It's weird how little it interacts with the unique balance of power thing going on

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I don't really know the intricacies of the combat well, is 15% shock damage not an insane bonus?

>>2167796
It's okay, but because of how modifiers work it's less impactful than most of the other combat buffs. It is, however, pretty easy to stack

Is there even a point to taking Exploration as Corvuria? I filled it out and colonized most of the Banished Isles before I realised that none of the trade routes actually reached my hub. Setting up a trade company innawoods seemed much more lucrative. The extra colonist has been useful for developing the marshlands I guess, but I could probably just have gotten Expansion and then removed it once I finished.

>>2167852
>Is there even a point to taking Exploration as Corvuria?
No. You get a free colonist for the marshland, that's good enough

>>2167756
I quite liked it but Ive never played the vanilla one so I cant compare it

>>2167780
kobildzan kinda mt

I wish Regent Court had a mechanic where you integrate new gods into the Court.
Big orcish RC nation? Petition to get Dookan recognized as a member.
Conquer Bulwar? Incorporate Surael as a member.
Rohibos? Sure, go ahead. Corin? Give her permanent membership while still following Adean. Kalyin? Agrados? Uelos? Yshtralania? Surely all of these deities can find some form of veneration within the Court.

VRORENMARCH MT FUCKIN WHEN?!?!

>>2167954
who are they again

>>2167937
>Dookan recognized as a member.
This would never pass, or cause a corin tier schism at best

Anyways the ACE ibevar tree gets a god added

>>2167969
Timmies eaten by Frozenmaw a few years before the game start

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>>2167937
>Mfw I'm a Regent Court priest and the Dovesworn Gnolls start asking if the first Xhazobine can be added to the pantheon

>>2167441
Do I need all the dlc listed in the workshop to play this?

>>2168038
>timmies
qhar

>>2168085
term for white people

>>2167937
>Big orcish RC nation? Petition to get Dookan recognized as a member.
That's clouded eye
>Corin? Give her permanent membership while still following Adean.
Pretty sure Adenica can do this

>>2168062
No. Though things like the building mods and content expanded do improve the overall experience

>>2168062
Just pirate the dlc
>>2168121
I also think the monument mods are pretty good

>>2167937
>Playing Frozenmaw game
>My MT makes me flip RC --> Corinite or eat 50-100 years of admin eff malus
Agonizing.

>The First Corinite War, lasting from 1620 to 1645, was a gruelling conflict which saw most of the Empire of Anbennar engulfed in war, with the Corinite princes aided by Escanni ‘Crusaders’ joining their fight against the Adeanic forces in the Empire. Eventually the war reached a stalemate, and was resolved by the Peace of Esmaria, which confirmed the right of princes to choose their faith, and extended this privilege to all subjects of the Empire, instituting a religious peace.
So going by the recent mission tree changes that means the entirety of Escann, Verne, Istralore presumably the entirety of the Eastern empire were fought to a standstill by about 6 Pearlsedgers?

>>2168127
Reaver blood, son.
Something something MTs aren't canon

>>2168150
Honestly the Vicky 3 "canon" is the worst thing to happen to the setting. So many MTs have neutered possibilities due to "well thats how it is in V3"

hear me out
what if
meiou anbennar

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>>2168191
picrel is how fast that runs

accidentally got coalitioned hehe ^.^

>>2168178
Is it really so bad if a bunch of countries that go C*rinite in their MTs didn't actually flip in canon? Worst religion next to the Th**ght

>>2168242
That'll teach you to take a single 333 in the EoA.

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>>2168150
>>2168250
I'd argue national ideas are pretty canon though, even if you ignore MT's. Especially since these countries got their redisgn done pretty much alongside Vicky the Corin side seems stacked as fuck

>>2168250
Yea because the wretched Revelians are everywhere now

My first time with the mod as Esthil and I've been enjoying it greatly but why is there so much hate for Corin? She ended the greentide and then ascended to the RC, brought in blood rains. Seems pretty reasonable for a god of blood compared to like Khorne or Khaine from Warhammer Fantasy.

>>2168317
She's a w*man

>>2168317
As in on here?
Woman.
But jokes aside people probably see it as a betrayal that she wants human and orc unity as it’s seen as a racial betrayal for what they did to Escann

>>2168321
>>2168323
Yeah the usual
Oh really? I've been purging goblins and enslaving orcs and my Corin bar is going negative, maybe I haven't noticed it...

>>2168250
all i know is that Grombar My Beloved has to deal with:
>take another 80 years to reform out of tribal government AND eat -25% admin eff for 50 years
or
>go regent court and then corinite

>>2168250
Of all the religions, I still hate Kheionism the most.

>>2168317
In the thread or in the MT? I don't like her because I hate the religious mechanics, the reformation in this game is OP as shit and everyone converts. plus after the 300th time you've dealt with her period raining down on your peace and development you get a grudge.

>>2168325
The cope for some Corinites is that the end justifies the means and all this for one day achieving peace. That’s where you get unironic lich lord corinites

That being said enslaving orcs at all is not very Corin approved, she had an orc and a half orc in her circle after all

>>2168317
She took Orcish BBC and her religion is basically "Orcs dindu nuffin"

>>2168332
Wyvernheart goes Corinite and they sure don't care that much.

>>2168331
The fields are worked by undead so I don't think they mind it that much...
>>2168332
Yeah I've been going negative Corin faith a lot and while it does give good bonuses I don't think I'm her special boy
On the other hand the Empire went faith route and is embracing her??
>>2168333
Grim. Hope I can reform to some undead or no god thing when I go Black Demense.

>>2168333
It’d be BGC, Adeancuck

>>2168335
Really, in their MT? I’ve seen them do all kinds of things including Infernal Court and that dark mage cult

>>2168341
If I remember right the Infernal Court flip is after they flip to Corinite, also optional.

Is this it? Is this all dwarfs do? Sit around and stare at colonizers?

>>2168366
In the Serpentspine you definitely need a tolerance for sitting around. You can play Verkal Ozovar for a game with less sitting around. Silverforge too.

>>2168367
I wanted to go for the Sky Watchers but they're sooo far from everything

>>2168366
I recommend tabbing out a lot in the first century

>>2168376
Try Odval Tungr. Hold dev but you'll spend the majority of the game feeding half the world to your ally/vassal sister republic, doing colonial wars and forcing most of Bulwar into debt bondage.

>>2168366
>>2168367
Shazstundihr and Ovdal Tungr get to fuck around in Bulwar, one through direct conquest and the other through vassalizing everyone with Israeli debt trap schemes

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>>2168317
Serious answer: she's the daughter of Agrados, the exiled rapist war god turned Satan of the Regent Court, and within a hundred years of joining starts a war in heaven over taking over the chief seat after it turns out Castellos is dead. A seat which, to reiterate, she has no right to because Agrados was exiled. This leads to League Wars which kill millions. She causes period blood rain over most of eastern Cannor and probably killed the soul of the Orcish race when she slew Dookanson (and fucked up the time itself in order to do so). All of her followers are evil, varying from Istralore's mundane "imma use this religion as an excuse to usurp power in the empire" to Grombar's exotic "rape as state policy" to whatever the fuck is going in with the adventurer formables. And worst of all, she paves the way for Ravelianism, which is r*ddit atheism mixed with freemasonry and worship of a Precursor phylactory.

why don't people hate the infernal court as much as corinites

What do they actually mean by Castellos being dead? Aren’t all the gods in this humans who rose to heaven?

>>2168416
There’s no smoke and mirrors, they’re literally unapologetic satanists.

>>2168413
>worship of a Precursor phylactory.
Doesn't it claim to predate the Precursors?

>>2168416
Going by in-game mechanics Regent Court hates Infernal Court and Corinite equally since they're both heretic religions. I do find it strange that Infernal Court doesn't have its own additional relation modifier because I find it hard to believe Catholics would accept Satanists as readily as they would Protestants.

>>2168417
The mural elves painted depicts a guy that looks like Castellos descending from heavens and then dying

Are we really supposed to believe that some random elf monks survived just long enough in the middle of the blast zone to paint a mural and then simply died out, leaving no trace? COME ON

>>2168115
Clouded eye (at least Arosha) are clearly anti-dookan

>>2168250
>thought
>bad
You can't handle FACTS and LOGIC

Corinism is right about orcs. It has been proven that they are capable of being normal so their niggerism is not inherent therefore they deserve a chance at redemption as much as anyone else.

>>2168476
Adean is my favorite. Shame that Adenica into Castanor doesn't feel that great.

>>2167954
>'white' reachmen taking back their land from the savage invading orcs

never gonna happen

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>tfw Esthil
>tfw Orc Minorities
>tfw Corin tells us to be nice to them
>tfw my grandpa's skeleton that remembers the Greentide works the fields better than them
Boys this Corin thing ain't working out

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I feel like people always recommend human nations in Escann, but are any of the greenskin tribes interesting?

>>2168038
>t. proud grombari "half-orc" nationalist (98% white reachman DNA)

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>>2168497
This is why you play Marrhold and commit to genocide and slave trade because they killed your pet

>>2168499
There's 3 formables, Barumand, Unguldavor and Khozrugan. Unguldavor just got a rework so it's probably decent. I believe Barumand was also worked on recently.

>>2168499
Clouded Eye is cool if you wanna civilize the Orcs

otherwise theres nothing else decent in Escann for Orcs

>>2168416
people hate a traitor more than an enemy

>>2168420
>it claims to
That's the kicker. It could just be lying.
It's a shame the Ravelian church won't let us try to analyse how old the damn thing is.

>>2168421
Don’t you get a free CB on Infernal Court countries as if they were a witch king?

>>2168522
Yeah, that does sound right. I think you get War Against Evil which is a really good CB. So I guess that's the relation modifier I want. I just didn't think about it from my perspective on the run I flipped to it. I was still expecting a relation malus or something, it was easy to get RC and Corinite people to not hate me as IC.

Any nation recommendations? Was thinking trying Nimscodd

>>2168464
They still get Dookan as a RC deity though

>>2168564
I also wanna try Nimscodd because despite playing the mod for a year I haven't ever played a single proper colonial game. I'm playing Vaengheim right now and I took exploration but still it's not as colony focused as hierarchy

>>2168572
I mostly wanna fuck around with the whole Artificery stuff but colonialism is also fun

>>2168564
Nimscodd is definitely fun, worth a playthrough.

>>2168564
do it, artificery is insane and unlike kobolds it's not CBT to play them

>>2168587
I'm probably biased because I miss the old Kobold start but it's pretty easy since the reworks.

>>2168476
Yeah what does the godly arena look like? Who sides with Corin over Adean?

>>2168509
Is Clouded Eye the one run by the femorc from Corin's Circle?

>>2168564
I'd probably say do Revaria instead you still get insane artificery early but also get to do Viking shit and the tree is newer

>>2168635
yeah

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this is so cool

>>2168732
Look what they need to mimic a fraction of Roadwarrior's power.

>>2168732
they gotta balkanize them more. region per region then area per area and finally province per province. TELLUM SHALL COLONIZE ALL!!!

>>2167756
Not sure since I haven't played the vanilla tree but I did post in this thread when ACE released the vaengheim tree and it was just a boring blob MT.

I dont even know what ace is

>>2168824
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3327090985
>>2168822
so is the vanilla one, but it has cool localization/events at least (written like Norse sagas)

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>>2168635
>>2168663
>playing this out
>random fuck off event kills Arosha
>rest of the mission tree consists of her writing journal entries about things that happened after she died

They really need to make it so leaders like this can't die before a certain point

>>2168855
The mechanic does exist but it's pretty overpowered so they don't give it out to anybody or without conditions. Ameion has it so you get to use Laskaris as a general for free.

>debating making a MT for a tag
>trying to submit one with the actual mod will result in literal years of waiting for approval + micromanaging bullshit from region leads
>ACE already has someone else doing the tag
>i also have no fucking idea how to make MTs that aren't steaming hot garbage
pain

>>2168932
What's the tag?

>>2168413
this is great, I love Wyvernheart the most
fuckin Umbrella Corp out here in the worst region of the planet, I wish the rest were even more monstrous, I need to try Nurcestir and Covenblad next

>>2168934
Hytiranyalen (one of the harpy vassal tags), had a few ideas floating around for one.
Also Bulwar is apparently notorious for being hell to develop stuff for in the actual mod.

>>2168413
>Ravelianism, which is r*ddit atheism mixed with freemasonry
It is not, reddit atheist constantly advocate for the removal or overhaul of Ravelianism because "its too similar to Christianity" and that "abstract deism in a world where deities actually exists makes 0 sense, no one would worship a cube daddy over someone like Corin".

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AI Command winning the Insubordination. Cool.

>>2168988
Real atheists constantly say that even if they got proof that God exists they still wouldn't worship him because he's cruel etc

>>2169013
wouldn't that make them anti-theist rather than just atheist.

Henlo Anonies
Starting a Pashaine campaign, anything I need to know or known pitfalls to avoid? I got to about 1480 before realizing that I'm gonna need to strap in for an 1800 campaign.
I keep getting tempted to take land and then release vassals: Will I insta-brick my Free City status doing that?
Force-vassalizing Luna River minors - any problem with that?
Tips for Swaymaxxing?

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>>2169036
First campaign I'm honestly going to take Court ideas on. It feels wrong yet right.

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>>2169009
Well, they got two of the Commands back at least. They'll probably rebound in a few decades even if they end up losing this. It's entertaining just to watch this.

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Real Corin hatred hours

>>2168855
ironic, mine lived for a long ass time

also replaced her near perfect son heir for some reason by event

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>>2169050

>>2169050
they did stop grombar they converted them to corinism :3
given time, we'd have a corinite xhazobine

anybody got pictures of the vicbennar culture maps? i want to see what happened in the canon.

>>2168191
Isn't that what EU5 Anbennar may as well be?

>>2169089
yes

So, how do you get Aelnar out of the gutter in Vic3?

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>>2169062
>given time, we'd have a corinite xhazobine
Corinites on their way to South Aelantir upon hearing about the Effelai

Any word on how deep EU5 Anbennar will take the sub-province autism?

>>2169135
Become multicultural and accept millions of immigrants.

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>>2169155
Has EU5 anbennar even been confirmed yet?

>>2169200
It'll be playable in 5 years.

>>2169200
its been confirmed, and theyre sticking with the 1444 start date for obvious reasons

itll probably take ages just to get the map done

>>2169200
It's still YEARS away regardless

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How the hell are you meant to play this country? I've started twice now and both times the Khet declare war on my useless ally/country I'm meant to diplo vassalize in a few years since they've for some reason deleted their entire army while I'm busy dealing with Eborthil.

>>2169271
This is just a general piece of advice for fighting outnumbered/staggering large enemies (Kobolds v Lorent/Gawed, Feiten v Bianfang, Anyone v Command)
When the war is declared, check what the max cash you can get from them is. Consider that your "budget" for the war and buy mercs/above forcelimit so that you can kill their manpower above that point.

As-is, it looks like you're gonna need to galley spam, invade eborthil, more-or-less ignore Kheterata, and then peace them out and figure out where you go from there. But also, it's 1447 - I personally would reroll until the Nirakhet war goes a bit longer, and likely wait to ally Brrtkuh until after the Eborthil War.

The most important thing in early-game is that you fill combat width with a stack. Then it's just hunting whatever the AI is dumb enough to split off until you can win in a regular fight.

or if you get a war wizard you can just throw him at a stack and auto win

>>2169291
That helps but War Wizards aren't so crazy any more, most of them won't have more than 8 pips of Shock since the rework.

>>2169296
i saw wesdameria with 11 shock yesterday
getting stackwiped while fighting them with 33% numerical advantage was a fun surprise

>>2169200
>pic
All of the above.

>>2169200
Do female Gnolls have pseudopenises? This is important

redpill me on the gnomes

>>2169524
Of course they do, the furries in the dev team would riot otherwise.

>>2169200
gnomes dont look like that

>>2169533
Okay but are they accurate pseudopenises which scrunch up for sex or are they the gay furfag discount futa/strapon fake dick kind?

>>2167852
using colonists to dev is never efficient, it's just better to use the money to have better advisors, The dev you gain is negligible and you can't build buildings on the land while you're "deving" with a colonist.
The rate of dev gain that you get with colonist scales negatively with the existing dev on the provence, if the rate of dev gain was flat then colonist deving might actually be worth it for high dev provinces

>>2167852
why would you ever do this

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they have this so far

>>2169218
>>2169562

fucked up that i had more fun playing meiou than i had playing as an elf reclaimer/colonizer

>>2169570
but you're just staring at the screen on speed 5 in both scenarios so I don't get it

>>2167970
>This would never pass, or cause a corin tier schism at best
This is a feature, not a bug.

>>2169570
Rezankand mogs Aelnar

>>2169562
Corvuria is tropical? Doesn't that kind of ruin their Transylvanian aesthetic?

>>2169570
Colonizing isn’t fun it’s just a mix of waiting and frustration because fuckwadland stole the single piece of land you need to finish a mission

>>2169562
This map makes less sense the more you look at it.

>>2169537
>>2169557
The fact their MT wants you to develop so much made me want to find alternative means to help with that. Like pillaging to dev up the capital and so on.
>if the rate of dev gain was flat
The lowest I've seen it go was 5%. Completely negligible but I could see it being smth you could do once after all the land in Aelantir has been taken

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think I'm done with my magisterium run
economic hegemon, #1 great power and just beat lorent in a coallition war to knock them off the top spot
also biggest colonial empire despite never getting a single colonist, just stealing colonies in wars since they're cheap and I didnt want to blob in cannor. gawent and me hve been allied since day 1, feels good man. also had a centuries-long alliancewith busilar until they changed religion and suddenly hated me.

overall very fun country, would recommend

>>2169562
There are so many fuckups with that map I don't even know where to start

>>2169666
Just start with something.

>>2169648
>The fact their MT wants you to develop so much made me want to find alternative means to help with that. Like pillaging to dev up the capital and so on.
deving is already cheaper in anbennar due to racial pop modifiers on provinces, it's completely doable as you're going to have a 6 6 6 immortal vampire mage ruler
get your transmutation up for ruler stat boosts and homunculus advisors for extra 1 monthly mana in each and extra advisor buff
just play them like you would in a mp game
temple rights + infra + burgher loyalty + divination (for apc) + prosperity + dev edict = cheap deving

>>2169667
Why the fuck is the land around the Mother's Sorrow river show as "Arid", when in the lore it's a thin strip of perfect habitability through the desert and none of the provinces in EU4 have the "arid" modifier

>>2169562
>Rich subterranean
>Warm subterranean
what does that even mean? Like the vents stopped working in those sections??

>>2169721
it can still be farmland, it's arid bc it's for weather modeling, ie it doesn't rain there but you irrigate from the river instead

>>2169744
rich subterranean is where the underground vegetation is luscious
warm subterranean is where the underground is close to magma vents so it's extra hot

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Stop doing this. Please.

>>2167903
>I quite liked it but Ive never played the vanilla one so I cant compare it
the vanilla one is a generic "become a tolerant democracy" and it forces you to pick privileges and there's a mission that has a requirement to win 300 battles

can... can we talk about vicky 3 anbennar here?

>>2169796
no

>>2169796
I don't care who paradox sends I'm not playing vic3!

>>2169804
I'm not asking you too.

>>2169796
Yes, I suppose, but why would you talk about it, other than to laugh?

when does suhan show up?

>>2169790
>Stop doing this. Please.
What, you dont like wasting 5k and 5 years building useless impressment offices only to destroy them right away?

You just know there has to be a sizable Yansheni Wuhyun diaspora in 21th century Aelantir after the Dragon Command falls and they inevitably got genocided by the rest of Yanshen.

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>>2169562
A lot of bullshit here. Whoever made that map loves the tropics way too much.

Dropped my Vaengheim run and started as Nimscodd. I guess Vaengheim is cool if you care about Gerudians and their lore, in my opinion they should all end up as troll food

>>2169904
Why would they get genocided

>>2169905
There's way too much jungle bullshit in EU4 as is, tone that shit down.

>>2169562
>About 2/3s of the world is desert or jungle
Halann is both Oxygen rich and very sandy

what's a chudmaxxing country

>>2170022
One of the Ynn countries I played has a council that gives you a permanent nasty penalty if you accept Cannorians in a summit or a bonus if you stick to your tribal ways. There's similar punishments throughout the tree for trying to integrate other cultures. I think it was Amacimst.

>>2170023
Oh, and when I looked at the event to see what the other decision would have given me, the one with the penalty is named dumb.libtard or something like that.

>>2169914
Because they're buckbroken humans who'd rather be eternal 2nd class citizen under the hobs? They literally rebelled against the human coalition when it conquered Jiangdu from the Dragon Command. Also the fact that by Victoria times Yanshen has been quasi-unified in their attempts to fought off the Command for nearly half a millenia, there's no chance that Hobgoblins and Wuhyuns are going to just get off scot-free, when the elves had been massacred because of way less.

>>2169905
>>2169917
does eu5 have a terrain change system?
would be cool if they started as jungle but deforestation eventually turns them into grasslands/plains

>>2170028
But the elves are always a minority, like Jews, it's easy to bully them. Wuhyuns are a pretty huge ass population and they are still human, just with hobbified culture. I think they would more likely just become sort of pariahs but with attempts to reintegrate them in Yansheni culture

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I got out of the chud jail.
PSA: don't play that shit, it's a barebone mod on a barebone game.

>>2169721
egypt is arid farmland in eu5

>>2170022
Asarta genocides humans
The humans next to them wear armor made from lizardman scales

>>2170022
>>2170055
Zokka sacrifices/enslaves entire nations
Luciande has you commit genocide on elves to give power to your vampire ruler that doesn't want to hide that he's a vampire, you enslave orcs too
Masked butcher has you enslave other races on farms for harvesting their faces because you're shapeshifter vampires
Konolhatep enslaves a lot of people in order to build monuments

>>2170022
Haraz Orldhum

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>>2169905
>>2169917
Subtropical is not jungle.

>>2170069
You're still telling me that Corvuria is supposed to have the climate of Florida

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>>2170071
The climate map is a simplification of an already simplified climate map. Large swathes of moderately similar areas are grouped together. The real map 'says' half of China is Florida.

The only way I will ever play vic3 is if it allows me to pull a reconquista as Kobildzan and enact TOTAL GOMMO DEATH

>>2170075
we hold hands and sing kumbaya here xir.

>>2170071
Most of it is literal marshland so that tracks

>>2170075
Reconquest? You dirty lizards keep calling the homeland that Gnomes have lived in for thousands of years yours when it never was. The only good kobold is a dead one.

>>2170075
>kobold lover
Literally dilate

could a republic get a powerful mage?
if so, could said mage get lichdom within the limited duration of his tenure?
might've seen an ai do that but i'm not sure, poor dude definitely gotten immediately voted out if i'm not imagining things

>>2170123
>could a republic get a powerful mage?
yes
>if so, could said mage get lichdom within the limited duration of his tenure?
I guess? Venetian election would be the best for this since they keep the ruler for life

Yeah, a lot of Republics can swap to Sortition and you can get an immortal permanent ruler as a Republic that way.

>>2170122
>kobold hater
Literally dienow

>>2170123
>might've seen an ai do that but i'm not sure, poor dude definitely gotten immediately voted out if i'm not imagining things
jesus, what the fuck was this sentence
i need to stop playing anbennar for 24 hours straight

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A bonus objective where I voluntarily permanently taint my bloodline? Well that not happening.

>>2170149
I love that true half-elves have a mechanic where they stop being half-elves if they don't have any further influx of elven blood but horcs, even if they marry humans for generations, are always considered horcs.
With the exception of Camir Silmuna (pbuh)

>>2170149
This is pretty stupid. Are you telling me in 400 years of Silmunian Dameria not once they intermarried with the Istralore, one of their chief vassals? Also, one more thing - if the escanni branch is seen as legitimate and Anbennarians recognize matrilineal descent and inheritance then EVERYONE who ever married into the Lunny House has equally decent claim to Dameria.

I am playing Sons of Dameria, should I form Adenica or Rogieria?

>>2170189
Rogieria so you can embrace your muttness and fulfill the will of Satan.

>>2170189
Rogieria if you want the evil muttoid experience, Adeanica to play one of the few good guys in Escann

>>2170071
dude, half of corvuria is dense swampland on an ocean near not-middle east

of course its floridian

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Eu5 has unique localization for any province

should be fun for lorefags when the mod releases

>>2170235
wonder if they'll commit to a full scale map or just port over EU4's like they did for Vic 3

>>2170235
What are they gonna do with bazillion provinces in Australia and Sahara?
>Sand in Oboingo is especially sandy

>>2170238
Wdym?

>>2170243
basically will they commit to completely redoing the map to EU5's larger and more detailed scale
a paradox dev in the discord did encourage them to do so but warned it is a slow process

>>2170157
Lothane, the quarter orc, had the backing of his grand uncle which solidified his claim.

>>2170248
pretty sure they said the plan is to already make anbennar larger to match the scale of eu5

with way more EoA tags

should make Escann feel less crowded

>>2170257
>should make Escann feel less crowded
fool, that just means there's room for MORE adventurer tags

>>2170257
Well that's concerning given its been about half a decade and they've still not finished filling in the EU4 map

>>2170260
theyre pretty much almost done, just gotta finish insyaa

>>2167937
>Corin?
Adenica's mission tree lets you jam corin back into the RC

>>2170261
I don't think there's a timeframe on when that's getting done though is there? Last I heard they were still arguing whether it was populated by robots or turtles

>>2168126
why wouldn't you stay old dookan, objectively one of the strongest religions in the game?

>>2170281
The Frozenmaw MT rework essentially railroads you into Regent Court. It's honestly killed such a fun nation/area for me.
You start the game with a malus to faith points generation that can be mitigated to only -15%, but because your religious unity is shit being Frozenmaw and you can't afford Religious until like tech 7, you're gonna spend ~40 years converting provinces to Old Dookan. By the time you do that, you'll be halfway down your MT.
It changes every province with a half-orc pop into RC and then your leader converts your national religion into RC. This mission is required to complete the MT, otherwise you get the pre-MT orc mechanics of "reform your government at -30% reformprogress modifier before you can click Become Country button at Tech 7, otherwise, take -50% admin efficiency for 50 years." The only way to remove this malus is to go through the entire reformprogress at -30 or complete the Frozenmaw MT.

I ragequit at that point, because the Grombar MT isn't changed and Grombar railroads you into being Corinite with the Grombari Wars of Religion mechanic later in the game.

The only way to not suffer through Old Orc Mechanics and remain Old Dookan is to rebelflip, which is basically one step away from console commanding anyways.

grombar is cringe anyways

Gimme a country to play

>>2170287
Did they give the chud dookan path to the gray orc minors instead of letting Frozenmaw keep it?

after playing magisterium, is Orda Aldresia any fun?

>>2170354
Krakdhumvror
for maximum pain make sure Frozenmaw wins against Vrorenmarch

>>2170280
it already has nations on the gitlab but none of them have any national ideas or mission trees

>>2170369
you blob ibevar and corvuria and you basically get to event annex the magisterium (hope the ai does the missions for the tower and the trade good swaps but it probably won't bc the ai is dogshit at completing their missions)
The start is super slow and inconsistent bc you start as a vassal to the emperor (who will be ai unless this is a coop campaign) and alot of missions are time gated behind ravelian and winning x amount of wars for the emperor (ai super inconsistant about deccing war)
if you're willing to abuse console commands, it's not bad

>>2170354
Zokka and devour the sun.

>>2170354
Toarnaire -> Roilsard -> Lorent

>>2170287
This is ON TOP OF the Frozenmaw Rework being effectively a nerf to Frozenmaw, with most of its missions serving as a cash drain and monarch point drain.
Dev forest provinces while being an orc administration (because you weren't strapped for monarch points already with Brasur dying in 1451)
Build barracks on 5-dev provinces in 1470 because your land is super productive at this point (entire economy consists of 1 gold mine, you are on ADM tech 4 if you're lucky)
Basically all claims on Gerudia gone from the tree, enjoy unjustified demands or spyspamming

>>2170369
>>2170390
desu I liked the theme of the MT as a disgraced order getting revenge on Wex and the mages but I wasnt a fan of them turning their back on their entire faith to worship the cube

>>2170414
I mean you get to usurp the ravelian state, keep all your mil modifiers and get access to the ravelian state mt, but at that point the game isn't fun unless it's MP bc you should have outscaled every ai on the map
Also if you're immortal (very easy with culture shift to elf as you blob ibevar), you just stay rectorate controller the entire time
Having a powerful mage isn't even that bad the -50% artifice cap is nothing if you have artificery early, as finishing a research gives artificer capacity before 1650
I find that I always have capacity left over even with maxxed out invention slots (10 slots)

>>2169622
obviously

>>2168413
>A seat which, to reiterate, she has no right to because Agrados was exiled
>muh right
typical regent court cuck
no but seriously though the idea is the rest of the pantheon did jack shit during the greentide meanwhile you have the supposed daughter of agrados and her merry band preventing the orcs from overrunning cannor on top of escann. it's not surprising at all that her worship would dominate escann and find followers on cannor

>>2170257
can't wait to form the escannraj as some random harimari adventurer

>>2168622
the way it pans out I think it's implied every other god stays out of it and lets them slug it out. otherwise it wouldn't make sense for the rest of the pantheon to be included in both religions, albeit less important in the corinite pantheon

>>2170453
It is pretty crazy that not a single harimari went west of davharal for over 1400 years

God damn what kind of rig do I need to play Zokka as intended?

>>2170043
How many pops did you lose at the start?

>>2170043
it's a shame that vic3 released the way it did
i really don't want the swedecunts over at paradox to fuck up eu5 as well

So what exactly did Ildran do wrong? Why shouldn't everyone just worship him?

>>2170532
I'm pretty optimistic about EU5, it's looking to be a much more significant improvement over 4 compared to the jump from 3 to 4. Like, if the new trade mechanics work even half as well as advertised, it's gonna be awesome and basically be all I ever wanted (dynamically change what becomes the center of the world)

>>2170542
does EU5 still have the retarded 'do nothing, ruler/heir randomly dies events'?
I fucking hate that with eu4

>>2170542
pops and dynamic trade is all I ever wanted and we're getting more

only way eu5 is gonna be bad is if its a broken buggy mess on release and they never fix it

>>2170123
this would be a fun idea for Newshire>Black Demesne

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they need to fix this FAGGOT ASS EoA ASAP
that stupid BITCH Wex just crashed my fucking game with his unify anbennar bullshit, the fact these stupid fucks can get realm peace off 80% of the time before corinism can get a fucking war off.
its just not fuckin fun having them and the Denny'sRaj just eat an entire subcontinent into one giant disgusting blob nation when so many MTs in the area will require eating small provinces from them

just found out about how easy it is to add modifiers to countries through the files
maybe it's time to introduce some chaos

>>2170071
more like Virginia

>>2170571
works on my machine
>wex gets PU'd by lorent
>emperor is random nation
>doesnt pass anything ever because too weak

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>>2170379
Forgot to check in on frozenmaw

whoops

Pashaine is so fun its unreal
60 dev core state
45 dev surrounding states
all provinces 30 dev
1550

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what the fuck happened here
did the globogommo got gommo'd themselves

>>2170620
who do you recommend for pashaine

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>>2170508
I went down to about 20k people before Lorent backed my conquest of northern league's colony near me, pushing me up to >100k. Then I pushed my military to be able to take over one of the OPM out of the glacier (kewdhmer), and from there it's snowballing.
Here's the current state. My primary annoyance is Lorent's alliance with the gnomes, preventing me to start eating dalaire.

>>2169062
Canonically, a lot of cannorian gnolls converted to corinism because they saw Corin as a human xhazobine and wanted to emulate her.
Seeing that she was possessed by Agrados, they're not entirely wrong.

>>2170650
Any Luna river minor can form it but Blueheart is probably the best, it also borders Cestirande and can release like 3 city state vassals from it

>>2170668
how many elves

>>2170022
Dahvar Aelnar requires purging like 6 races at the same time. Their religion quite clearly states the star elf is the superior race and all the lesser races are a taint on Aelantir.

>>2170695
It's in the screen. 52.9m. They're star elves like you and me, alright? My daugther is dating a star elve of 1m30 with a very nice beard, he's a credit to this nation.

Seriously, tho, it's 7.92m star elves out of 70m total, but it's probably boosted by the other mods I use (more decrees, which allows you to eventually change homeland of states).

they should add a feature where Aelnar can repair the flying city and chud out by dropping it on a state of your choosing killing everyone there

imagine if the game had a better war system that allowed for more than two sides in a war, belligerents swapping sides during wars, joining wars only under certain conditions, as well as late entries into wars
would add more chaos if anbennar's religious conflict was a three way war between the regent court, corinites, and the ravelians

>>2170698
>Seriously, tho, it's 7.92m star elves out of 70m total
Shame there's no way to purge all those sub-elves

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>>2170737
>purge
I got bad news for you, m8
It's not the 1500's anymore, times have changed.

>>2170739
>Multicultural
>No Migration controls
>Banned Slavery
A very progressive apartheid state

>>2170739
>multicult aelnar
Genuinely disgusting

>>2170751
Not as disgusting as what the dev did to Aelnar in Vic3.

>>2170739
My only regret is
1- Not having passed secret police when I could. Now I can only switch to guaranteed liberty, which is not nearly as good as other options.
2- Still being stuck between Interventionism and Agrarianism, because my industrialist leader is fucking opposing laissez-faire.

Also apparently nobody gives a fuck about mechanim rights, so i'm stuck there too.

>>2170762
It'd be salvageable if there was a tech that nullified the ridiculous mortality buff of the Dalairey Wastes or a JE that creates a Star Elf homeland there

No idea if this is true but allegedly the Anbennar team is so butthurt about people managing to succeed as Aelnar, that they're planning (or at least considering) to remove it entirely?

Funny part is that by standards of the stuff added to the mod later, Aelnar probably struggles to reach the "top 10 most evil tags" -list. It's just that it was one of the earliest fully fleshed out mission trees and lot of people's first introduction/draw to the mod and this is a perpetual source of salt from the Anbennar team.

>>2170795
That's just a rumour in this thread

>>2170797
they said on discord half the dev team wants to remove aelnar from vic3 and many of them dont like it in eu4 either

>>2170808
half the dev team are troons so it makes sense

>>2170763
>nobody gives a fuck about mechanim rights
that race is canonically nonbinary (they don't understand the concept of gender) so this is a good thing

>>2170808
Removing it in Vic 3 is probably better than just using it as a joke state. It's kind of fantastical any bit of the hyperracist expansionist elves that lost the war survive.

>>2170833
>kind of fantastical
almost like it's a fantasy setting, retard

>>2170808
Bunch of thin-skinned faggots.
Zokka literally ends the world and in the process commits genocide over most of Bulwar and Haless.
I guess it's because elves are 'white coded' or some bullshit and gnolls/orcs/whatever other races the most evil MTs belong to aren't.

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Time to purge some knife ears as Dartaxes.

All my niggas hate elf niggas

>>2170808
The only real reason they want to remove it is that despite being an antique MT in EU4, despite having received 0 update in years, despite being the shittiest start of Vic3, it's still more popular and talked about than 95% of the garbage they churn out. 2025 Anbennar devs are midgets standing on the mountains built by giants, and claiming proudly "I did this".

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>>2170808
>oh my science, a gay half orc, gay lizardman, lesbian ruinborn, and bodymod kobolds that are an allegory to transitioning, this is so wholesome it makes my clitty leak ~
>is-is that RACIST ELVES? oh my Fauci this is simply so heckin problematic, racism doesn't belong in ANY fantasy setting PERIOD because it gives an escapist fantasy to REAL racists

>>2170857
>midgets standing on the mountains built by giants, and claiming proudly "I did this"
Just like Gerudians, fr fr.
Also why is there no Gerudian formable in Vicky 3 if they break free from either their Gawedi or Grombari overlords?

>>2170847
Dartax doesn't hate elves and OSC in general especially has nothing against elves, he just has to make a temporary alliance with the sebhulichuds to achieve his political goals and after that he kicks their extremist asses as well

aelnar are boring and deserved to get ownzoned

>>2170861
This is why I like the Command MT, you literally get events to start punitive measures on any homosex stuff

you couldnt pay me to start in aelantir

>>2170954
the fey elves are kinda cool

otherwise everything else is kinda gay

>>2170954
I like Ameion.

>>2170808
>removing aelnar from vic3
Who cares avout Vic 3.

>>2170954
Ameion and Larankar are cool

>>2170857
>it's still more popular and talked about than 95% of the garbage they churn out
Wtf are you talking about, it didn't even make it into the top 30 tags in the last survey

>>2170973
I wanna see the survey results

>>2170975
Here
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sfAuoawruzFUzwbi03ovLQZr6EjNowMunVKRV0HJnys/mobilepresent

>>2170975
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1sfAuoawruzFUzwbi03ovLQZr6EjNowMunVKRV0HJnys/

>>2170650
Blueheart for the later part of the campaign and objectively the best ideas. -10% devcost early in the tree is a nice monarch power save. You're gonna be locked as an OPM until tech 10 realistically, and AE in EoA is so heavy that you're effectively forced to dev. Your early ruler starts dogshit but he's 23 so he'll be 6/6/6 for a long time. If you play the nation properly you'll have a 6/6/6 for majority of the campaign.
Blueheart's +10 ICA in the mission tree isn't make or break, but it helps a lot to go toe-to-toe with the continental giants or scare off the inevitable coalitions Pashaine will get conquering Dameria.

I honestly absolutely love "peaceful expansion", when you get vassals or land through mt without war
Cestirmark has it, Seghdihr has it with Verkal Gulan, Pashaine is formed diplomatically through a mission, Adshaw get a union over Vrorenmarch, Ovdal Tungr gets Crathanor... Who else?

>>2170861
But why did you post Sonic

>>2170808
this same shit happened to Kaiserreich when it became too devbloated
anything remotely badguy coded got removed and every nation becomes a boring social democracy usually ruled by a feminist icon

>>2170973
That's a survey of MT popularity, not the nation in it's whole, and as such, it's heavily skewed toward most recent releases.
Meanwhile, if you read the discord, the subreddit or these threads, there's 3 big topics that keep getting talked about, that keep getting memed off:
-Jaddari.
-Aelnar.
-Dwarfs as a whole.

>>2170993
Hammerhome gets a free PU with Khugdihr
Vaengheim vassalizes their historical friend and steals Bjarnrik's vassal
Command can vassalize the Oni (this is one of the few peaceful things they can do)

>>2170993
Verkal Ozovar has some of it early, I think you can consolidate your starting vassals and get one or two more without much war. Barlijin has strong focus on developing and puppeting your human allies in the blue scarf peasant country. You can give them all of Yanshen and then eventually unite peacfully. Hammerhome apparently gets some special form of union with that bank Hold in the north-east

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>>2170977
I've never even heard of these guys before

>>2171002
But there ARE old tags in the top 30. Jaddari, Azkare, Castankr, 5 dwarf tags, Balrijin, Azjakuma, Rogieria, The Command.

Aelnar is talked about because the video that popularized the mod discussed it, not because Aelnar itself is good.

>>2171009
Play them, they are really fun

>>2171005
>I think you can consolidate your starting vassals
yep
>and get one or two more without much war
notably you can vassalize the son of the ghost emperor

i declare
AN END TO SOBRIETY

i declare
TOTAL HOBGOBLIN DEATH

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Who the hell are these guys? Uelaire doesn't even have a mission tree.

>>2171026
Basically, Uelos was god of the sea/sailing before Munas. And as of 1444 everyone who follows Uelos is a RC heretic.

>>2171009
They're unhinged in a fantastic way.

>>2171028
So there's no content anywhere for it? That sucks bringing back primordial ocean gods sounds much more fun than making everyone worship gingers.

>>2170074
>The real map 'says' half of China is Florida.
Which it is

>>2171037
Not yet at least. Fingers crossed someone will eventually starts working on Uelaire.

>>2171048
start*

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>>2169562
>the map creator's thinly-veiled tropical fetish
>Bulwar (diet Baghdad) is cold arid
>the fertile banks of the Suran in general are mostly Arid
>the not-America around the Trollsbay is almost entirely subtropical
>the random splotch of cold arid terrain in West Castanor
>the shadow swamp doesn't get it's own special climate type to represent the shadow plane's influence, but the areas affected by the feyrealm do
>the redglades and yyl moitsaa are not fey-touched despite having heavy fey influence in the lore
>the not-Antarctic peninsula in the south is continental
>part of the mushroom forest is arid
I NEED TO STOP LOOKING IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE

>>2171037
The religion uses Anglican mechanics, with the majority of it's bonuses affecting your navy or coastal provinces. It breaks once the crimson deluge happens because you don't get an option to clear the event at the start of it.
No tags use it yet, and I doubt a Uelaire or Lamentaire mission tree will ever make it out of development hell.

>>2171037
>bringing back primordial ocean gods
Kumarkand does this

>>2171087
>>the not-Antarctic peninsula in the south is continental
That's actually what it's supposed to look like. It's not comparable to Antarctica.

>>2171003
Thanks, I gotta try Hammerhome sometime
I tried Vaengheim but wasn't really much interested in their theme

>>2171005
Definitely gotta try Verkal Ozovar and Balrijin. Too bad VO can't practically expand outside of Haless

>>2171026
Uelos was a cannorian human god of the seas, but since RC pantheon was formed by Castanor they didn't think it necessary to add Uelos to the pantheon because they were away from coasts

>>2171109
Hammerhome can dig in Marrhold. Don't take any land in the Serpentspine if you don't want Dwarf disasters to happen, give it to your bank vassal
Balrijin has decisions that tell their human vassal to declare wars

>>2171129
*human blue friend that gets vassalized later

you have to remember that eu5 classifies basically all of china as well as virginia as subtropical

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pashaine seems absurdly strong

>>2171138
Virginia during the summer might as well be full on tropical

>>2171156
It is, with blackpowder anbennar I had the biggest army in the world without even taking quantity ideas, and crazy army quality with perpetual 100 tradition and 100 professionalism. I stopped giving a fuck about AE and had all of cannor be PISSED at me, but they were too scared to even attempt to form a coalition despite everyone from Lorent to Marrhold having like -300 relations with me from AE

Absolute powerhouse

>>2170770
>change spell to the one that raises SoL
>pass healthcare
>1 Ranch for some Meat and Cloth
>Meat goes in the Feeder for Magical Ingredients
>Ingredients go back in the Ranch for more Meat
>Ingredients go in Tower for Magical Essence, which be used as heating
>almost 10 SoL, no Starvation
>mortality still higher than Birthrate
No, seriously.

>>2170762
the consequences of not hiding your powerlevel because you wanted to larp as nazi elves

>>2171218
Why are they in the middle of a frozen wasteland?

>>2170977
>Nimscodd nowhere on the list
>K*b*lds #3
Gnome-bros...

>>2171225
the only good nazi is a freezing to death nazi.

>>2171100
Is there supposed to be something going on with that offmap island?

>>2171240
Yes.

>>2171241
okay, thanks

>>2171225
mistakes were made

>>2171241
Like what?

>>2171251
They're tight-lipped about it other than confirming it's supposed to be that way.

>>2171252
So, probably Precursor Elf bullshit. Or the last refuge of the Giants, somehow.

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>uh, do whatever the fuck for the next 30 years

brutal mission