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CATHARSIS EDITION
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Why didn't wait till the other one is at page 9 or 10?
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>>2177098
sorry, the toozers excited me
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>>2177089
>Warrior Occultism
kino
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>>2177098
It's fine if the post hits nearly a thousand replies imo, page 7 is really pushing it though.
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IOU:
>6 more vids
Please stand by...
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>>2177320
https://youtu.be/Zc9Ar_tw3s0
https://youtu.be/NlxJukQKAMw
https://youtu.be/ai9hCnOpjS8
https://youtu.be/Q1_cHVbpQ-A
https://youtu.be/B-vRiQfNVAk
https://youtu.be/CZnE9Kgjkok
IOU:
>0 more vids
>Please insert new toozer to continue
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>>2177115
I really hope they add a decision or event to restart MKUltra.
It's actually sickening how much they created with the program.
Like the unabomber being one of the victims is crazy.
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>>2177377
Can I talk in Discord without an account?
I want to ask some questions to the Dev team that I forgot to ask yesterday, but I don't want the feds to notice.
Are there any add-ons, third-party apps, or the like that can achieve that effect?
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>>2177388
>Can I talk in Discord without an account?
no
>I want to ask some questions to the Dev team that I forgot to ask yesterday
they lurk here sometimes
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>>2177390
>they lurk here sometimes
Yeah, at the speed of 15 questions per anniversary. A monthly basis would be much better.
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>>2177388
Just make a burner account.

>>2177394
Read the message you replied to. AYRT said that they LURK here, not that they respond to messages. If you post something that isn't stupid chances are that it'll be shared with the devs. The /fit/ Burt meme made its way to the dev server once.
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I hope they give that South Korean feminist cult a path. I think they even had ties to the female president the country had for a bit.
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>>2177447
I find it funny that BOTH Koreas are dystopias of different variety.
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>>2177453
no only the occupied south is
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>>2177453
Yeah, both show the pitfalls of Capitalism and Communism. Real life kino.
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>>2177453
Both Koreas are essentially caricatures of each others beliefs
The communists are huffing mad copium that they refuse to believe the outside world
The capitalists are slaves to samsung and feminism
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>>2177419
Yeah, we mainly lurk here. I only post messages cause I feel like it. Plus we dont have other official TFR accounts here and people at most post anonymously. I just have the name due to the Czar drama so I kept it to make questionares easier.

>>2177388
You can ask it to me rn, im gonna go back to lurking again today, but I will answer the stuff I can today in the meantime.
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>>2177453
North Korea is an old fashioned one party dictatorship where the supreme leader and his family are portrayed as Gods.
South Korea is a cyberpunk-esque dystopia with a dysfunctional democracy where everything revolves around the 3 tech giant monopolies.
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>>2177462
NTA but I had some more questions. Is the Post-Catharsis content planned to be part of 1.2 or will it be its own update? Is a 1.0.9 update planned? Is the English team still considering making content for Army of God, Hutaree Militia, Brigham's Army, Texas National Movement, and Jewish Defense League at some point? Any chance the NSM rework/overhaul will be in 1.1 or is it not coming until later? Is Warlord Russia content being considered at all?
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>>2177453
>>2177461
I like to imagine that if the two of them were united, their polar opposite insanity would cancel each other out and the united Korea would be just a regular, healthy nation.
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>>2177447
The South should have a focus to forcefully Squid Game people that aren't contributing to the economy.
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>>2177462
Is Ted gonna have to pick a successor because of his cancer?
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>>2177089
This is the big list of updates I promised to sticky last thread.
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>>2177468
At most I can state that everything you said is TBD.
Post-Catharsis is probably gonna be its own update or as a bonus to a big one. It is part of the "long-term projects" we have, albeit pushed up thanks to fans liking OG Catharsis and giving us enough motivation to follow it up.

Do not know if 1.0.9 It might happen, or we might just have 1.2. It all depends if we have content to release ready that isnt part of the batch like 1.1 or 1.2.

We are still considering some of the tags you mentioned, however we also have other unifiers and regionals that we want to make. Probably the tags we have in mind as of now will be released before the ones you mentioned. No pinkie promises though, cause the ideas might be redrawn and all that.

NSM overhaul will probably be after 1.1 at the very least. I am not as informed about it but I dont think it is done to be shipped yet.

Russian warlords are in a long term content stage rn. Again, no promises.

All-in-all, our team has like, a set number of projects we have, with the updates being the main focus alongside some overhauls and long-term projects. The rest as of now is mainly planning, concept creation and members of the team trying to form a vision for a tag or a region for the future. Plus some concept trees and GFX stuff.

Similar to how we have Loji and Ted K and the fifth Cascadian faction being long-term concepts ever since 2023 but we had to bin them to the back-burner due to the release schedule.

>>2177489
Well, there was a 2024 minor teaser about Ted's cancer... Guess you guys have to wait and see.
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>>2177491
Elysium was renamed to "No Truce with the Furies"
>National Bolsheviks
>Wagner Expansion
>Uplift of Dugin
>SRZP path
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>>2177494
I see, will 1.1 be a solo update or will it have a separate mini update attached to it? (ex: Dystopia and the France update both had mini updates dedicated to Russia release alongside them).
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>>2177507
Unless anything is additionally announced think of it as a standalone update. Like I said it depends if the teams think other content that is added as a bonus is finished or not.
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>>2177509
How difficult is Vanguard of the Wild's path going to be? Will it be one of the harder paths in the mod/2ACW due to their aversion to technology and industry?
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>>2177491
>Kaliningrad Animal
>Alikhanov and Mishustin
I dont believe that. Theres probably more theyre hiding
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>>2177512
Unfortunately I am not as informed about the difficulty of the path. But the update will have some hard paths overall at the very least.
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>>2177516
Nice, which 1.1 faction would you say is the most far along in development and which one would you say needs the most work done before release?
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>>2177500
>Uplift Dugin
They're gonna nerf the fuck out of my favorite Helghast aren't they?
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>>2177516
Will there be South America content at any point in the future? The continent is ripe for content.
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>>2177520
Hmmm... I would say most of them are evenly placed. Cant exactly say which is the most or least finished.

>>2177522
Hey, idk about the update or whatever, but Dugin is my baby who I wrote all focus descriptions for (Well, I did them for Navalny too but only for Dugin I did 3 paragraphs for each focus). Everyone loves the grandpa so he wont be weak sauce if an uplift happens.

>>2177525
We have concepts for the region similarly to Middle East and East/West/South African regions, but as of now its just concept stages and not as in-depth.
Actually, I suppose South America is second most talk about new region after the Middle East. Again, as of now its just talk, brainstorming and what-not. Do not expect it to come out anytime soon.
If anything, only rely on the official announcements cause thats the things we can be certain in to arrive.
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>>2177533
Sorry for asking late, but any plans for dear old Greece?
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>>2177534
Not at the moment. Maybe in the future, but as of now there are way bigger fish we must make in both Europe, Asia and the Middle East.
Maybe it can arrive alongside some other nation bordering it, but I do not have any info about such a thing.
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>>2177536
But yeah, generally if the nation is small enough and has bigger nations protecting them, dont think they will arrive any time soon.

Both Koreas can be considered an exception, although they are pretty significant in their own right and have both economy or influence to the GAW to be included.
Like, just as one doesnt expect Laos or Cambodia content dont expect Central European minors or Eastern European minors that arent with much significance.
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>>2177540
Not that we dont want to do them, its just the scope of the mod is way too big and we have regional players to flesh out first before we even get to the minor peeps.
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Anyway, I am going back to lurking...

Anyhow, can show some of the games/media the dev team took inspo from I guess. Keep in mind the list is very narrow because I have a specific type of games I like which I remembered. In reality the genres are very wide overall, and the dev team's taste is diverse enough to have almost everything on. Its just that all of the stuff mentioned are from my memory.

Deus Ex, System Shock, Peripeteia, Psycho Pass, Ghost in the Shell, both movies and TV shows, IHNMAIMS, Project Moon games, hello Charlotte, For all Mankind. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, Children of Man, The Foundation, Fear and Hunger, Ace Combat, Forever Winter, BLAME! Cyberpunk2077 and previous Cyberpunk tabletop games, BRIGADOR,

I am not talking about books cause I dont remember as much. Even the media/games I mentioned today is just a fraction cause every dev has their own stuff they use for inspiration. I am just a sci-fi nut so I remembered those ones.
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>>2177536
Same question for Italy, Eastern Europe, Spain, Portugal, Scandinavian countries, and the Middle East.
Also, the questions everyone has been asking:
Is the leak in >>2177491 real, and when can we expect a similar one?
Will there be a Burt getting /fit/ mechanic for the NSM?
Will Lafayette and Radelsführer be post-Catharsis warlords?
When will 1.1 come out, for real this time, no more "soon + 2 weeks"?
And three from me: Will the paths shown during the anniversary be expanded, or is this their release edition? Because we may have some good content concerning the, for example, CIA coup path for UOA (MKULTRA restart, NSA radicals countercoup)
Can you visit more often, like, once every month + every update? We have a lot of questions that need answering, and I, personally, don't like being left in the dark about whether the mod is dead or not.
Will there be any cooperation with/integration of other toozer mods and submods (Modernity Collective, XU, EAW, FMTW, and, God forbid, TNO)?
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Which is canon the civil war started cause trump winning or Biden winning?
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>>2177544
Pls don't drop modular ww3/4 in the future. Even in years is ok, look at classic kaiserreich.
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>>2177571
>>2177563
Going back to namefagging as well.
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>>2177563
>Hello Charlotte
>Cyberpunk 2077
>Forever Winter
>Project Moon
Gigachad lineup in this thread.
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>>2177563
Before you leave, can you explain what the hell happens in the Ecotopian re-education camps?
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>>2177578
Why Star Butterfly?
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>>2177563
>Fear and Hunger
Rape cults in Catharsis Europe confirmed!
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>>2177565
About content question I cannot say anything. Nothing concrete basically.

About visiting I guess I can do it more often, its just I have irl stuff I do. Maybe with every release or so. Do not worry, outside from me there are other people from the dev team lurking and maybe even posting.

>>2177571
We will see. It isnt dropped, but we need to see how everything fits. There aare multiple ways to do it and we need to pick the best one.

>>2177574
Originally planned to drop the name after the Czar drama but it stuck and I forgot to go Anon again. Maybe next time I will go anon.

>>2177578
Well, ecosocs dont want to murder people like other factions. Well, they muder a lot but they dont want to kill everyone they disagree with.
Basically they try to reeducate people and integrate them into the ecosoc vision via media and messaging. Unless you are like, a CEO or an Oil/Lumber tycoon. Then, you know, chop-chop.
>>2177584
Cause she is fun to add. Personally dont know the reason for Star specifically, but all other references, even the Hirotonfa and NITW are Cascadia-coded enough so there's that. Generally the ecosocs are fun people who kill way less people compared to other factions. Which isnt as big of an accomplishment considering how Cascadia is one of the most violent regions of the civil war but that's that. They genuinely want to build their ecotopia and want people who can be integrated to integrate, even if they are iffy on the ideology or antagonistic towards it.
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>>2177565
Also, forgot about toozer mods/submods. I think the team doesnt mind them, but we do not know about integrating them. Nothing is set in stone but my personal opinion about that is that both submods should be their own thing.

Oh, also forgot in the inspo section SIGNALIS and Titanfall, and some Gundam but not as concrete.
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>>2177594
>About visiting I guess I can do it more often, its just I have irl stuff I do. Maybe with every release or so. Do not worry, outside from me there are other people from the dev team lurking and maybe even posting.
My mortal form is prostrated at your feet, my liege.
Seriously though, thank you very much.
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>>2177607
Calm the fuck down with the bootlicking, you retarded piece of shit. I understand that it is an honor for you, but what the fuck is up with that monarchist (meme ideology, btw) bullshit?
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TFR should have it's own containment board. It was fun like a year ago but now there's literally nothing going on besides toozer slop and circlejerking devs.
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>>2177642
Don't you mean containment thread? Also that's retarded.
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>>2177642
i mean other mods get posted from time to time, like red flood
but they post teasers very infrequently
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>>2177642
Get the fuck out, retard. We're talking about TFR because it's their anniversary today, and they make content a hundred times better than your (((realistic))) mod could pump out in a century with their retarded, trooned-out, and crawling with FUCKING SUBHUMAN ROACHES wreck of a dev team.
TTD, TKD, TND, TJD, and TTD one more time, because there can never be enough of a good thing.
Also bump.
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>>2177642
Cry about it.
Pic unrelated.
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>>2177578
>>2177584
>forcing people to watch Star Vs The Forces of Evil
War crimes. At least it isn't Steven Universe, but still heinous war crimes.
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>>2177563
Good tastes in media.

>>2177642
>Nicola is seething and demanding a TFR containment thread for the millionth time
lmao
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>>2177650
>>2177651
>>2177656
>>2177661
>>2177689
STOP POSTING ABOUT TFR I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT! MY TIKTOK FOR YOU PAGE IS FULL OF TFR, ON DISCORD IT'S FUCKING TFR! I was in a kiwifarm tno thread and ALL OF THE NEW POSTS were just TFR stuff AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGESFG FUCK OFF TO YOUR CONTAINMENT THREAD
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>>2177688
Last post before I go lurking, but Steven Universe had better atmosphere than star. The ambiance, background art and music was also way better in my opinion.
However just like Star, i didnt care for it after like, early season 2 when I was young. Adventure time and Gumball were the better alternatives for kids to watch out of most cartoons at the time in my opinion.
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>>2177661
Uhhhhhhh...
... Based?
>Based.
Based reference it is, then.
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>>2177462
Officially, what happens to Doctor Umar and Tariq Nasheed in TFR? Also, can you guys use Loneliness by Minimal Man for a super event or the radio?
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>>2177701
Kek
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>>2177701
Nah, don't think so.
>>2177702
Alright, see you Nov 7th. If you get any (((realism))) problems that you can't deal with on your own, report here and I'll try to sort it out.
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>>2177701
Maybe people would talk about your mod if it wasn't shit lmao.
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Now that he's gone...
Any ideas on what is the "Dept. 13" in the tail end of the Nazbol war focus tree?
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3355101082
Red Flood fix
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>>2177730
>>2177739
>Anons fell for a copypasta
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>>2177802
>I'm not retarded, you are!
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>>2177807
Anon....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB3d5L_yrCM
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>>2177799
Why the hell did that post get wiped?
Do the jannies know something we don't?
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>>2177816
It said
>Relating to the occupation of territories most likely.
In response to >>2177755
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>>2177823
Europiggy (and invasors) rape zones.
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>>2177853
I think it's more Magnitogorsk/Zone 0 type shit.
Think horrors beyond human comprehension.
Think weaponized ego death, LSD mixed with DMT in the battlefield air, taborite.
Think Davy Crockett, ultra-heavy artillery, neutron bombs in danger close mode.
Think thermonuclear bombs built like shaped charges, Orion Drives and Battleships, the Sundial Project.
Think Venom from DC, think berserkers, think tanks ripped apart with bare hands.
Stuff like that.
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>>2177816
I went back to look at the Nazbol focus tree and my guess was wrong, it's a research thing
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>>2177890
Esoteric superscience? Might be too 'out there' for TFR
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>>2177940
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>>2177563
>Project Moon games
Nooow I understand how the Roblox, uh, TFR community understood Catharsis. You got the KR autists interested!
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>>2177954
What the fuck
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>>2177940
Most of this is stuff that was actually considered IRL, Project Sundial is a doomsday device that was proposed by the US military, for example.
Some of it was taken from PaxBrit (weaponized ego death, LSD in the air), some from XU (ultra-heavy artillery, neutron bombs in danger close mode)
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>>2177115
>Child Safety Act
I'm scared
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>>2177954
>Danny Phantom
>The House of Loud
Autism kino.
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>>2177966
Yes, but for the most part you want the places you bomb to still be usable afterwards, be it by you or your puppet.
Doomsday devices might fit AWD, but they can't capture them if they don't actually exist and they're not keen on making them (nor they're able to make them)
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>>2177986
>AWD
>caring about the territory they capture
Is the name Atom and Waffen not enough of a clue to their motivations, anon?
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>>2177986
>The tag that's exclusively about blowing up the world wouldn't want to make doomsday devices
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>>2178004
Read my post again. I'm saying AWD would be interested in making everything an uninhabitable hellhole, but nobody else is.

>>2178009
Yes, AWD might want to make doomsday devices. Can they? They aren't the sciency types.
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>>2178015
They aren't but the people they hold at gunpoint can be, if you catch my drift.
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>>2178015
>but nobody else is.
Ackshually one of the new Post-Catharsis tags wants to wipe out Humanity, at least within Europe.
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>>2177978
oh god it's this guy again
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>>2177115
Is the Cognoscenti title a WoD reference or is that just a coinkydink? Because they fit with what they're in the setting pretty well, so if it was just an accident it'd be a funny one.
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>WoD reference
They should add the Camarilla, Sabbat, and Anarchs as 2ACW factions in the next April Fools update.
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the Fire Rises update when?
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>>2178081
Nov 7
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>>2178063
>WoD April Fools path for Germany
>absolutely nothing changes except the WEF is renamed to the Technocratic Union and this is the new super event
https://files.catbox.moe/3oetlg.mp4
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>>2178100
What are your hopes and fears?
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>>2178107
>hopes
Red Dawn does a great job of uplifting CPRF, I played them for the first time recently and they felt much weaker quality wise compared to UR and LDPR Russia. Hopefully some unique super events that depend on what path won the 2EW, a Juche USSR and Socialist Technocrat USSR victory would be very different. I also hope Alikhanov's path is very fun.
>fears
Red Dawn does a poor job of polishing and improving CPRF Russia. Alikhanov's path is boring.
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>>2178107
>fears
It will be another russia reskin that doesn't change russia's gameplay in any significant way like all other "new paths"
>hopes¨
idk anymore
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>>2177986
Well, I was thinking about making Project Sundial work like a shaped charge (see Casaba-Howitzer).
Also, focusing lasers on deuterium-tritium pellets to create small fusion detonations (see Project Daedalus) as gunpowder for super-heavy artillery.
Also, weaponized low power nuclear salt water rockets as radioactive flamethrowers.
Also, white phosphorus cluster bombs.
Also, dum-dum bullets.
Also, VX, Sarin, N-Stoff, Sufentanil, and everything else from the PaxBrit list of terror weapons(can someone post it here with descriptions?).
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>>2177089
The Fires Rises is going Red Flood on us, eh? I'm all for it!
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I think depleted uranium rounds should be in if they aren't.
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>>2178155
Think bigger.
Think active uranium rounds, used by penal battalions, that detonate like a small nuclear bomb.
Read >>2177890 and >>2178152, and then start thinking bigger.
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>>2178153
That reminds me...
>>2177702, when can we get a collab/ideas/dev exchange between TFR and RF/JD/XU/SOP/TOTA?
I NEED that schizo/acc pack that Artaud is smoking. PLEASE.
A Nick Land toozer would be perfect.
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I am the ponymod oracle nigger,, ask questions and you shall receive in timely manner
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>>2178172
equestria rework. when will it be done?
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>>2178172
TFR april fools collab next year?
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>>2178172
Will the devs add any new continents in the foreseeable future?
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>>2178179
>Will the devs add any new continents in the foreseeable future?
hopefully not, the 3rd continent already slows down the game by a lot
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>>2178174
As soon as it's done. You can play Baron's mod in the meantime.
>>2178175
Never ever due to disagreements in team.
>>2178179
No, half of Griffonia and 90% of Zebrica is barren old shit with no content. Have to finish that fist.
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>>2178100
Are they just not going to do the USA update anymore? That's been in development hell for ages.
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>>2178184
When will that be finished?
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>>2178188
Nigga they JUST dropped a bunch of teasers for it, and we already knew Kalingrad Animal was the next update.
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>>2178188
It vvill be finished before '26, trvst the plqn.
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>>2178184
How many original warcrimes per country in the next update? I don't want some shitty gas the hundredth time, I demand kino.
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>>2178188
One update has a ton of new US factions and the other's a few new post-2026 routes for Russia's current trio of paths. So it takes longer because of the larger scope.
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>>2178184
>Never ever due to disagreements in team

Can you provide some more insight into this?
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>>2177702
Please, please, PLEASE add
>>2177890
>>2177966
>>2178152
to the mod, I don't want just biological weapons and nukes as a last resort, I want nuclear, chemical AND biological weapons from the START of the war, now the tail end, with as much warcrimes as possible, I'm talking BEYOND "Omsk during 2WRW" levels.
That would be absolute peak.
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>>2178202
That and they're also adding new paths to pre-existing tags as well as reworking some of the roadbump tags. It's a huge update which is naturally going to take a lot of time, especially if these new tags have post-reunification content which is still up in the air.
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>>2178190
In our lifetimes I guess, we don't have quotas or anything like that so it's done when it's done.
>>2178199
Wait for Aestlonia for that one, I would post a teaser of it but janny would be mad.
>>2178205
Some team members think TFR is too controversial and would attact the wrong crowd as there's basically no way to get just stupid fun content out of it. It us what it is.
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>>2178216
>Vigilant Libertarianism
Sounds a lot like
>committee-elected revolutionary murderers becoming murderers of the revolution
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>>2178219
Post a link to the teaser.
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>>2178220
>With New England firmly in his hands, he will not stop until the head of every last Tyrant is laid before his feet.
>For the first time in his life, Dunn is in control.
>There is no telling what he may do to maintain it.
>Those who practice Vigilant Libertarianism know that Tyranny always starts small, a compromise here, a half-measure there, all culminating into the same oppression that led to the collapse of American society.
>No length is too far for them - no measure will be corrupted by the moralists who tried to stop American freedom from blossoming
>The Tree of Liberty thirsts - and it will be quenched with the blood of Tyrants
They're definitely going to start off with good intentions and quickly spiral into murdering a shit ton of people with the excuse being it's to defend 'liberty and freedom'. Looking forward to playing as them and Heben's PMC state. If they manage to deliver with The American Experiment it'll be one hell of an update.
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>>2178219
>Some team members think TFR is too controversial and would attact the wrong crowd
Honestly? Understandable, it's a shame because a collab between the mods could be pretty fun/funny but the concerns are valid.
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>>2178222
https://old.reddit.com/r/equestriaatwar/comments/1n3i5h9/amzas_utopia/
And this one for the good measure
https://old.reddit.com/r/equestriaatwar/comments/1mgoeq2/evil_posada_be_like/
Sorry for leddit
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>>2178219
FYM "we don't have quotas"?! You lazy fu-
>sees >>2178230
HOLY SHIT, THEY NAILED THE TABBY STARE.
That shit's scarier than April Fools Twilight, and somehow she's still aurafarming.
Please, go on.
And give Uteuk a raise.
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>>2178219
Will the (apparently massive) update featuring the Crystal Empire rework be finished soon?
I see the Equestria south-west, namely the Rocks and the Buffalos, will be updated soon, and that Dr. Caballeron in the south-east will also get a rework Will the other factions (except Celestial State, as that got a massive rework recently) in the south-east, particularly Disciples of the Night, be updated soon?
Are there Kiria reworks planned?

>>2178230
>Snowstorm
I can fix her... but do I want to?
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>>2178237
Amza's a girl too, BTW.
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>>2178219
>as there's basically no way to get just stupid fun content out of it
That's true, the mod is just cringekino nonsensical larp fantasies; I'm not surprised that other teams wouldn't want to touch it
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>>2178219
>TFR is too controversial
Nonsense. We have a lot of paths, wholesome and based, left and right-
>>2178244
>cringekino nonsensical larp fantasies
...
...
...You're right. But they're not nonsensical. And they're the complete opposite of CRINGEkino.
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>>2178244
I prefer the term schizokino.
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>post-Catharsis tags
Some of those don't look playable. There's an ideology that basically says "we're zombies, the Catharsis robbed us of our will"

>Aeonic Revanchism
So, to punish an entity that imposed existance (and the suffering thereof) on humanity, we should kill everyone, then ourselves?
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>>2178269
>There's an ideology that basically says "we're zombies, the Catharsis robbed us of our will"
I think you could make that playable, have it be the zombie army is a sorta hivemind that marches its way through Europe killing and devouring all they come across, maybe also able to turn normal people into mindless cyborg zombies like them.
>So, to punish an entity that imposed existance (and the suffering thereof) on humanity, we should kill everyone, then ourselves?
Yeah, if everyone's dead the entity will be left all along and will no longer be able to torture Humanity for its entertainment and Humanity will be free from suffering.
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Did they say which US warlord factions have the unifier?
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>>2178277
No. However SOL, GMAC, and RR can definitely reunify the country. Cascadia and BLA might have paths that can reunify the country. LOS I doubt has any paths that have the choice of reunifying the nation.
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>>2178153
>>2177089
Seems more From Men to Wolves and Extremis Ultimis than RF to me. Or maybe RF schizophrenia has just been eclipsed for so long it seems tame now

Still love RF tho. Only issue is rn the second great war doesnt feel global enough like Vanilla Hoi4. And its still very Vanilla since its 36 to 45 so I need a conflict of that scale to make up for it.

Thats kinda my issue with TFR in Europe and the 1st and 2nd EW and ACW. GAW is the bar set, as far as wars go. but those other two are just over too quick and too idk...flowcharty, if that's the word to use.

You unify a region and push either east or west depending on your side. Or just push west n east depending if youre Russia or NATO. Maybe its cause Navy lacks any role in those two wars besides piss poor Baltic invasion attempts by the UK and as far as ACW Only Trump is the exception to the rule since hes in the middle.

Maybe something like watching for incursions by ACG and UOA if you dont check your shit as the APLA and PF/NF BEFORE you officially declare on them could help? Or have Texas' unification be more consequential than just having them be an Ally one of the other unifiers?

Hopefully 1.1 shakes things up
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>>2178292
I want Nationalist Texas content badly. The entire playthrough being holding out against the big boy unifiers like its the Alamo or Waco till they finally cut their losses and give autonomy.

Kinda like surviving as Churchill India in RF when the UK declares on you till they finally leave you alone and white peace
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I feel like Kaiserreich's Black Monday minigame for Germany would be a lot easier to understand and more palatable for a lot more people if it wasn't framed as a card game. The "cards" are basically decisions, so just call them that and drop the window dressing.
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>>2178269
>>2178274
>Aeonic Revanchism
Take three guesses as to what that entity is.
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>>2178318
Uhhhhhhhhh the Demiurge?
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>>2178321
Close, maybe even correct, but no, that's a different ideology.
Try again.
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>>2178323
Violent Gnosticism, to be exact.
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>>2178323
Well they seem to have a weird obsession with black holes, but I don't think they perceive it to be the evil entity. I honestly don't know what the entity could be if not the Demiurge.
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I fear TFR would one day be too big to run on my pc
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>>2177089
This is a violent gnosticism household.
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>>2178332
It's the player, you dumbass.
Took'em long enough.
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>>2178350
Ooooh I'm a fucking moron, that makes total sense. Them hinting at that in events would be cool, but I hope they don't straight up break the fourth wall at any point and confirm it.
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>>2178356
>I hope they don't straight up break the fourth wall at any point and confirm it.
It'd be kino if the victory super event, as your final focus is to set the manpower of everything you control (which is the whole world) to zero, was a direct message to (You), the player, from all the 'people' you just killed.
Or if that final focus was hidden and autocompleted when you conquered and annexed the last nation
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>>2178356
They already broke the fourth wall in the WG mirror smile event.
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>>2178375
True, I actually liked that event. Alright I guess I'm cool with them breaking the fourth wall as long as it's done well and done very rarely.
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Can someone check in XU? I heard they had an update.
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>>2178385
>XU
Extremis Ultimis?
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>>2178306
I blame TNO. The dev seems to really have wanted to copy that. You can even see it in the election campaign jingles. TNO was actually ok and popular when they were working on it so the influence makes sense. But now that TNO is dead it sticks out.
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>>2178236
Unlike certain nazi victory campaign trail mods we only do activity checks every half a year or so, if you commited something you're good.
>>2178237
Not code ready yet and definetly not loc ready. So it's not even remotely soon. Aztlan facelift may come out sooner. No into on the Disciples.
>kiria reworks
I hope not. Would require throwing the previous dev out of the window with 17 gunshots, presumed suicide to even start it
>i can fix her
You can't. There is a character that can, though.
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>>2178471
>QPQ angered the EaW devs so much that they're still pissed at them
Fucking how?
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If the TFR dev is lurking and amenable, aside from Dark Maga will Trump get some new content? Either utilising the other caucuses or expanding on the three main ones?
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>>2178473
fucked around and found out
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>>2178500
What a pretentious arse.
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>>2178517
He is right though.
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>>2178534
He's also the person that's turning an Axis victory mod's US content into 20 liberal routes so it's more the point that he doesn't believe in a word that he's saying.
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>>2178561
That's also Mango though.
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>>2178561
That is the sad part of it. If he actually believed that sentiment the mod could be great.
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>>2178589
QPQ is part of the TCT clique of mango's you nigger
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>>2178471
I've noticed that there's been some small scale updates for Zebrica recently, will something be coming out for that region within the next 1-2 months?
>>2178237
>Kiria reworks
There is a 250+ focus long Kiria rework submod being done by some random chink, if you want to try that out. It's only like 1/3 done I believe so when(if) he finishes it it'll be like 750 focuses large. I think the whole mod is in English but I haven't played it myself so I can't say much, also probably no compatibility with the anime portraits mods.
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>>2178608
No dates but slowly South Zebrican package gets ready: yetis, hyenas and maybe some other shit. All code ready, only obscene amouns of loc left.
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>>2178617
Nice. Will the three countries to the left with a scripted war among them get released at the same time?
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>>2178622
You mean the Yetis? No, only one will get content for now. Has 3-4 paths if I'm not mistaken. One of them is definetly better than the others.
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actually crazy only one country got full content since the zebrica addition 2 years ago and they didnt finish the unfinished paths they promised to add either
the mod is almost as dead as tno
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>>2178172
How bad is the Equestria rework?
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>>2178643
It exists. Didn't prive into it.
>>2178635
dead mod xddd. Content is being made, main bottleneck is loc cause we have 7 or so code complete countries with loc slowly being added and atleast one that is fully complete since 2023 but cannot be added because dev decided it will be too boring with contentless neighbours.
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>>2178656
Will there be Changeling/Chrysalis reworks?
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>>2178656
>the content is being made trust me bro
just look at your only update this year, abyssinia
3 paths, not counting the cut ones, all do the exact same thing of conquering the exact same 4 countries to form the same empire
great
the only thing you guys do is ping everyone for unrelated shit
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>>2178677
>>2178656
Meanwhile Equestria is like a bone in the deep sea, hasn't been seen since Enoch the Wise...what the fuck? The alicorn gods are guests in their own setting!
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>>2178500
Some kind of emotional WHAT???
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>>2178692
>>2178500
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>>2178679
Enjoying the sidelining? Get ready, you're about to love this next rework.
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>>2178500
>>2178692
WE ARE REAL WE ARE REAL WE ARE REAL
>WE ARE REAL WE ARE REAL WE ARE REAL
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>>2178708
How do you even get catharsis? All you motherfuckers are laughing, I don't even know what country starts it!
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>>2178692
>The arch-devnigger himself is making coded references to wanting TFR
Is QPQ /ourguy/?

>>2178718
To get it you have to:
>Start as Germany
>Lose 1EW to Medvedev Russia
>Go full EUtard
>Install Schwab and the WEF into power
>Adopt the Davos System
>Defeat Medvedev
>At this point Catharsis will happen after a while of in-game time
It bookends the Schwabian EU campaign basically.
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>>2178677
>the only thing you guys do is ping everyone for unrelated shit
And ping everyone for portrait updates, or literally whos added to literally where, or tease things we'll never see.
And for someone's birthday. Which is apparently every other day. What are all those people doing?
So... yeah, you're right.
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>>2178668
Not planned ATM. Closest thing you might get is Greenclyf Wild Ride.
>>2178677
>>2178679
>equestria at war not being about equestia at war
Pic related, it is what it is.
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>new portraits for Celestia, Chrysalis, Cadence and Altidiya
>they are all downgrades of the originals
EaW is declining more and more with every new update
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You are gonna sit yo crakkka ass down and play this path, right /vst/?
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>>2178813
right after mike ma cascadia
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>>2178813
No not really, it is cringe urbanites, niggers and even worse inspired by maoism. I will play Cascadia and Ted instead.
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>>2178813
I'll play BLA if they have a kanye path, otherwise I'll probably avoid them.
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>>2178813
Right after Dark MAGA.
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>>2178756
Give us some more toozers, I NEED MORE KINO.
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>>2178386
Yes.
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>>2178386
Yes.
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>>2178842
>>2178843
Holy shit, comment mitosis on 4chan.
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>>2178471
>>i can fix her
>You can't. There is a character that can, though.
Who?
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>>2178854
Me.
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>>2178842
>>2178843
I don't see any updates on the steam page, but I saw a Vermin Supreme toozer posted in the last thread or the thread before that one.
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>>2178230
oh shit now we talk, I want more toozer fuzz
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>>2178859
That's MAA.
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>>2178886
Oh I'm dumb, well I heard that XU isn't dead and is still being worked on. So that's good.
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>>2178172
How's progress on that one Turkey knockoff in southeast Zebrica?
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>>2178813
hell yeah
https://files.catbox.moe/2ss8sw.mov
AVGVSTVS CORNELIVS our zesty nigga emperor gotta put the KKKon$umerist KKKRAKKKAS in the redemption corps
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>>2178854
Snow Qalam, during her round she befriends Snowstorm and teaches her how to read
>>2178828
>>2178862
All right, you will receice your toozers.
>>2178899
No idea what are you talking about, can you specify?
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https://old.reddit.com/r/equestriaatwar/comments/1mebqie/crystal_empire_scp_edition/
https://old.reddit.com/r/equestriaatwar/comments/1k5tbkf/devs_posted_a_new_teaser_eaw_is_slowly_but_surely/
https://old.reddit.com/r/equestriaatwar/comments/1llmtb2/a_crystal_empire_teaser_from_the_devs_this_time/
Here's some Crystal Empire toozers and a bunch from EaW 8th anniversary and more
https://imgur.com/a/teaser-tuesday-05-08-2025-big-teaser-tuesday-8-years-of-eaw-5K1jLx3
https://imgur.com/a/teaser-tuesday-07-10-2025-stallion-of-steel-steel-stallion-himself-5ITtmhW
Sorry for leddit and >imgur, but I don't wanna post it one by one and censor any equestrian that might trigger the jannie.
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>>2178946
I was talking about this country.
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>>2178952
What about the 03/04/'25 post? I can't seem to find the imgur link to it.
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>>2178963
Nope, no dev.
>>2178964
Link's dead it seems. I think it was mostly April Fools shitposts,
https://files.catbox.moe/3hjjyv.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/b8vvr7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hetutc.png and this Las Pegasus teaser, maybe that also was there.
Oh and this happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSNLy6KIpfc
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>>2178925
they should have a DAX song in there super event
>>2178823
>not wanting to kill crackkka filth as the Nation of Islam
gay
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>>2177563
>brigador
BASED
>for all mankind
NOT BASED
lmao openly lesbian president
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I liked Abyssinia
went for the Supremacy path, not a lot of content but I had fun
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>>2178997
The year is 1995.
The American people elected a lesbian President.
And there are gay niggers on Mars.
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>>2178990
>not wanting to kill crackkka filth as the Nation of Islam
Bob Avakin just seems like a more fun version of total amerikkka death so thats why I'll be avoiding BLA. I'd probably still get around to it eventually it would just definitely be bottom of the list.
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>>2178999
>And there are gay niggers on Mars.
Followers of Cosmic Escapism think this is a good thing.
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>>2177563
>Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
The Dream Twister should be a special project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lva8L-J8x04&list=RDLva8L-J8x04&start_radio=1
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>>2179005
never forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB2nY31sznw
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>>2178971
Alright, we have a posadist path and a Heaven's Gate path. Will there be:
>AWD path w/ O9A, Injekt, White Juche, Pagan NatPrim AnTot and BurgSys subpaths
>L/acc, R/acc, and Artaud/acc paths
>Ancap path w/ Corpo, Stratocorpo(military-industrial complex crossed with a PMC that uses the weapons it makes), DarwinCap, and Avaritionist subpaths
>Maoist path, with Mao-Spontex and Ultra-Maoist subpaths (all paths change the language to Maoist Standard English)
>Pol pot path, with an esoteric subpath
>NatSoc, NatCap, and Strasserist paths
>NatTot, Managerial, EsoDespot, and State Egoist paths
All with four extra servings of warcrimes.
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>>2179016
>t. Nocturnal Primitivist
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Whatever happened to the Beyond Earth mod? I was really looking forward to it. I guess beyond earth wasn't even a popular civ but I enjoyed it a lot. Slavic purity path and pan asia supremacy path were my shit.
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>>2177089
>Government and beaurocracy is the problem
>Not the browns they import and the screeching feminists they create
Nah, I'm good.
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>>2179027
Ded.
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>>2179041
shit
was a genuinely interesting setting
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>>2179036
They probably killed them all off during 1EW, 2EW and the Catharsis breaking out.
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>>2179036
>>Government and beaurocracy is the problem
The government and beaurocracy trying to erase the human soul is what lead to the hell that was the World Government and then the reaction to that hell being the Catharsis.
>>Not the browns they import and the screeching feminists they create
Given how tribal all these different ideologies are I imagine the majority of them aren't prioritizing giving women equal rights. Also given how mutted Europe is in this scenario It'd just be brown mutts getting mad at other brown mutts. I imagine that's what most of the Racial Apotheosis tags will look like besides a handful that actually consist of Europeans.
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>>2179019
>Ancap
Nova Griffonia and Winggarden
>EsoDespot
Black Claw Angriver
>everything else
I think this might be up your alley https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3380822312
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>>2179042
I kind of want to take up the mantle but I'm not coder
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>>2179027
gave up after people didn't like the UI changes
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rather new to HOI4, how much should I get familiar with if I wanna get into something like TFR?
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>>2179042
I can agree, the whole dam thing in India was pretty interesting.
>>2179047
It's good, but, unfortunately, it seems to be dead.
Any plans on integration of that submod? The more schizo, the better.
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>>2179061
You generally want to be familiar with all of the game systems. Industry building, production management, how to build a good airforce, supply, how to build a good army/divisions (all though the meta is pretty different in TFR), a basic understanding of the navy, general warfare. Really you should play vanilla for a while until you feel like you have a good grasp of the game, maybe watch a few tutorials as well if you feel confused about how something works.
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>>2179061
500 hours should be enough.
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>>2179064
We don't integrate submods, mostly because they exist so that you can whatever the fuck you want. Unless that "the fuck you want" is nazi larp, then you are a public enemy number one for some reason.
>>2179061
If you can paint the Europe as Germany and painted Germany as some minor you are pretty good to go I'd say.
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>>2179026
Yes
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>Warrior Occultism
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I'm not trying to summon him, but once the Post-Catharsis update drops that dude who spergs out about Lafayette is going to be mad as shit considering 99% of the Post-Catharsis leaders and generals will most likely be OCs.
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Found this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3523902016&searchtext=
Seems pretty based.
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>>2179071
>We don't integrate submods, mostly because they exist so that you can whatever the fuck you want
You can "whatever the fuck you want" in the main game too, why not integrate that submod and get the devs from that submod to work on the main mod so that it could get finished faster?
About "finishing the mod faster", why not open up a Patreon or something to pay the devs, artists, writers, etc. so that they could work even faster? If they do good, pay them more, if they do bad, pay them less, if they stop working, cut the pay and kick them from the team. Seems like a good idea to me.
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>>2179085
Kinda funny how ppl are pissy about it, when Post-Midnight was filled with OCs or almost OCs with how bad the characterization of most warlords were.

Besides, we are talking about a 40+ years into the future, why throw a fit against OCs when most of the figures who will be prevalent on that timeframe, either haven't been born yet or didn't breach the irrelevancy bubble
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>>2179103
PDX is very stingy with with paying for mods, last time a major mod did that the perpetrator got doxxed by satanists he summoned for his defence. There are donation links to authors, but not the mod itself. It's just volunteer passion project after all.
>why not integrate that submod and get the devs from that submod to work on the main mod so that it could get finished faster?
We do poach them.
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WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
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>>2179122
>we are talking about a 40+ years into the future
40+ years into the future and the timeline has diverged so hard and so much from our own at this point that real people being in positions of power and influence would make less sense than OCs. Like maybe some people like an old Frank Franz surviving and leading a Racial Apotheosis tag and some random European astronaut leading a Cosmic Escapism tag could work, but most of the leaders/advisors/generals would need to be OCs.
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>>2179132
Report this fuck.
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>>2179133
Hold on...
>Racial Apotheosis
... Lafayette? That you?
>>2179129
Czar kept all the Patreon cash for himself, that's why he got booted. Well, that and him being a retarded piece of shit.
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>>2179155
Well, himself and his clique. You get the point.
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>>2179061
Just learn the basics. If you can win a regular game as Germany in vanilla you'll be able to understand it. There are plenty of instructions in the mod when you pick a tag to learn the ropes but generally if you have a vague understanding of the importance of cas and mechanized forces you'll be fine. Pick a relatively easy starting tag like Russia, Biden, APLA or PF for your first run but in general just try to have fun.

>>2179132
Fix KX you lazy fuck.
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>>2179132
>Lafayette?
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>LOS will have a federal unifier path
Predictions on what it'll look like? It'll probably just be the KKK, but it could be something completely else.
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>>2177702
Please confirm
>>2178214
for Nazbol path.
Also, will there be bioreactors?
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>>2177714
>Officially, what happens to Doctor Umar and Tariq Nasheed in TFR?
There is no official stance on them but let's be real, their relevancy is dependent on a stable society with social media, racebaiters like them have no serious understanding of how the world works and their audiences are even more clueless than them, in any societal-collapse scenario they would wind up dead or irrelevant.
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waiting for the inevitable hero of the middle east to be added to tfr
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>>2179199
Sounds fun. I could see some kind of hardcore Dixiecrat path too for a lack of a better way of putting it as a nice southern counterpart to the more reformist PF in the north. That'd be a good federal unification theme I think.
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>>2179210
Are you a TFR dev?
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>>2179216
No, my good fellow, I am merely an anon.
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>>2179210
Sure in real life guys like that would die in a civil war scenario and have zero influence, but in TFR guys like that are able to actually amass a large number of followers and influence due to the writing being on the wall before the country imploded and dramatically increasing radicalization. I'd be very surprised if they aren't in as advisors for the BLA.
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>>2177089
Anyone here got a 7800X3D or a 9800X3D?
Ummming and ahhing about a PC upgrade, basically want to know when does 5 speed slow down as right now I'm starting to lag massively in 1940 all of a sudden.
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>>2179256
HOI 4 is awfully optimized, but I've got a 7600 6-core processor and my shit doesn't start chugging when I hit 1940.
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Wiping New York City off the face of the planet is the only way to save Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sx-U-z_rUw&list=RD2sx-U-z_rUw&start_radio=1
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>>2179219
Damn.
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nothing ever happens, there will be no content release, nov 9th is the last drop of water
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t. seething TNO dev/apologist
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>>2179231
Not all of them gain power or influence, I think Nick Fuentes gets popped in TFR because he stepped on Trump's toes or something.
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>>2179307
Yeah Trump kills him instantly.
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>>2179307
In an unused event he tries to join the PF and they tell him to fuck off, currently he resides in ACG territory and after threatening Trump tries to flee the country but gets gunned down in the process. While events where Dr. Umar and Tariq Nasheed get themselves killed in comical ways like Nick and Vaush I think it'd better to make them advisors for the BLA. However I also think they should add events of Destiny and Hassan dying.
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>>2179315
>While events where Dr. Umar and Tariq Nasheed get themselves killed in comical ways like Nick and Vaush I
*While events where Dr. Umar and Tariq Nasheed get themselves killed in comical ways like Nick and Vaush would be funny I
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>>2178216
I'm playing the GMC first, I want to try and create yankee outer heaven.
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>>2179315
Destiny and Hassan being butchered would be peak comedy.
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>>2179315
>Destiny and Hassan dying.
The former in a fire, and the latter by animal right activists.
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>>2179327
It's probably a waste of potential, but why not make them casualties of the way worse wildfires in California that happen in TFR? Without people like Destiny and Hassan to turn the temperature down, people could start going to actual radicals in the power vacuum, helping set up the 2ACW.
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>>2179342
>Without people like Destiny and Hassan to turn the temperature down
>turn the temperature down
Lol
Lmao even
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>>2177089
I'm pretty sure they took inspiration for the ideologies from here:
https://old.reddit.com/user/Confusedwacko/comments/1fxk0e6/archive_of_final_russian_civil_war/
>>2177702, is this true?
And can we expect more schizo ideologies like these in the future?
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>>2179293
If they were ever going to release 1.1 it would’ve happened on the anniversary. It’s never coming out.
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>TNOtard coping
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>>2179346
nta but if culture war tards started getting killed off they could be replaced by more militant ideologues.
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>>2179529
True, but Hassan has said shit like America deserved 9/11 and him and Destiny constantly dehumanize anyone right of Mao so in a TFR scenario I could see them calling for violence and revolution. Especially when it becomes apparent that another civil war is actually on its way and none of this is larp anymore.
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>>2179770
These streamer pests would shit their pants and run away to other countries at the first sign of actual political violence. There's a reason why they're all locked up in their houses spouting their worthless opinions 24/7 instead of doing anything else.
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>>2179778
True, but another part of TFR is a lot of grifters who espouse shit they don't really believe in for money and attention either actually do believe the things they say or come around to believing in the causes they championed due to the FUBAR situation they find themselves in. A good example of this would be Mike Ma, he embraces the exaggerated version of himself from his writings. You could do the same thing with Hassan and Destiny, or you could portray them as incredibly naive retards who thought the revolution would spare them and they'd be allowed to keep all their shit.
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>>2179778
Nah tons of them would clout chase into the grave. IRL streams during the Tampa massacre let's go!
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>>2179786
>MoistCritikal stays in Florida when the 2ACW kicks off instead of fleeing the country
>During his live streams he likes to talk shit about the AWD and call them dickpoop shitbutt larpers
>On his final gutbuster of a livestream some AWD members sneak into his house, kick down his bedroom door, and hack him to death with machetes in front of the camera
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>>2179785
>or you could portray them as incredibly naive retards who thought the revolution would spare them and they'd be allowed to keep all their shit
Guess which.
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>>2179790
That'd be the funniest shit.
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>>2179790
>AWD muckbang of Boogie2988's corpse
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>>2179790
I could be misremembering but didn't something like that happen to a ukrainian streamer a few years ago?
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>>2179778
Plenty of political violence, including assassination attempts (two on Trump) and a successful assassination (on Charlie Kirk), has happened and both Hassan and Destiny are still here.
Maybe once the right actually starts fighting back, but I still doubt it.
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>>2179790
>hack him to death with machetes in front of the camera
I'm gonna one up that:
>AWD sneak into his house, KO him and steal the PC
>the stream restarts in a dark basement, with Moist tied to a chair and 20 AWD guys surrounding him
>for the next 12 hours they go medieval on him, with the livestream having to be maintained due to the mods trying to shut it down
>finally, the broken, raped, dismembered and agonizing head and torso is stabbed 666 times, every stab wound is filled with cum, piss, ammo and shit, then the PC setup is evacuated to watch from a distance as the basement is blown sky-high
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>>2177047
Anybody got any funny or interesting screencaps about this?
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>>2179994
>we were led by the man who had defeated the cycle of birth and death
>Russia is all, the rest is nothing
>YES, DEATH!
I hope they implement all the shit I said in >>2178214, because that would be absolute, unmatched, kino.
>>2178226
New update: Vigilant Libertatianism is actually a despot that judo throws statists and commies into woodchippers.
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>>2180041
>judo throws statists and commies into woodchippers.
100% based.
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>>2180050
Correction: statists and buereaucrats. Commies get the woodchipper too, if that's what you were cheering for.
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>16 days remain
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Who's the Sablin of TFR?
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>Catharsis was a defining moment for the fate of Europe. The owning class, the bourgeois of the World Economic Forum, had proved itself so greedy that it could not continue to exist. The only purpose for the machine of the World Government was to grind the proletariat to dust, to break their spirit until there was nothing left. Capital would consume its labor. And yet, the will of the proletariat could not be so easily destroyed.

>Revanchist Proletarianism is an ideology formed out of the remnants of leftist ideology following the collapse of the World Government. Belief in the superiority of the proletarian class, the inevitability of socialism, and post-catharsis mysticism has led to the creation of an ideology that espouses the biological and spiritual supremacy of the proletariat that defied the most powerful regime in human history. And the proletarian is awake.

>The belief in the divinity and strength of the proletarian class leads to hyper-militarism and conquest under the guise of liberating the proletarian spirit. Which -in the eyes of the Revanchist Proletarians- is not only a necessary sacrifice but an inherent part of the supremacy of the proletarian class. The blade of revolution must be sharpened with the bones of the rivaling tribes, the petite bourgeois. For there is no greater cause than the liberation of the superior class.

>The Bolshevik is awake.

>The Guerilla is awake.

>The Partisan is awake.

>The proletariat are awake, and the world is doomed to change.

>Red Shambala is but a small struggle away.
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>>2180136
>new
Once again the world is merely aping the ancient masters
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>>2180066
I'm just generally in favor of throwing politicians into woodchippers.
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>>2180134
George Droyd
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>>2180134
Loji
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>>2179994
I prefer this version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73e_YZSJEc
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>>2180170
>Hato
Kino.
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>>2180172
There's a mistake, the "Alternate vertical of power"
in the Russian version says "Ascension of Organized Criminal Groups"
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>>2180172
Why choose a company that went bankrupt almost two decades ago?
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>>2180187
Because that leads it is a major anti-Putin oligarch of some historical significance. He's one of those 90s oligarchs that really tried to stick around well past the game going bust for his lot.
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I wanna play OWBs, specifically the legion
Any tips?
Have a catharsis meme as well
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for the fire rises Is there a point of playing as the following state governs, police, and military during the 2acw?
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>>2178292
Big dawg fuck off with the EXU. Their devs have been retarded faggots for years. Ask them if the Transformation Fetish Welsh Nationalist cult on the Isle of Manx is still a thing or if they finally booted that lying tranny out.

If not. The Mod's still fucked.
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>>2180220
I haven't played Legion in forever so all I can recommend is be careful that Caesar doesn't die, unless that's what you want so you can have the inheritance war.
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>>2180225
No, the only tags with content currently are Patriot Front, American Constitutional Government, Union of America, American Peoples Liberation Army, Atomwaffen Division, National Socialist Movement (only worth playing once, they're the shittiest tag in the mod currently).
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How would you fix Thousand Week Reich?
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>>2180200
Why not Uncle Hasan or Nikita Voronov, or Sber or VTB or Tinkoff? A lot more people know them.
>>2180236
... the fucking what now?
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>>2180262
The Brit Dev is a troon with a transformation fetish. It was put into the "Wacky" mode, if that's even still a thing desu, but the Welsh were going to put into concentration camps under Jacob Rees-Mog and some would escape. One of them was a transsexual scientist on the cusp of inventing nano-machines. They, and a few others, would escape. As the UK you'd then get events about some weird cult springing up on the Isle of Manx and people being attacked by a grey goo.

The Grey Goo would be used to transform men into women under the Celtic-Nationalist Matriarchal Pagan cult, who would try to take over all of the UK or every Celtic Nation.
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>>2180261
Hostile takeover of the mod by pro-Requiem ppl, then scuttle the mod and recruit the devs, complete with full-cloth/partial integration of content.
>>2180266
First off, it's the Isle of Man, second off, what the fuck, third off, what's its address/Discord nickname/Email? I'm gonna deliver this to snarky.snappy.
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>>2180273
I have no respect for any Celtoid creatures addled by whiskey. So I don't care much about the first one.
Second, yeah lmao trying to find some of its shit. BritDev swapped accounts so I lost all the deets he shared with me years ago. I like to remind people whenever EXU is brought up that this is a thing, lmao.

I'm trying to find more stuff as we speak, it's been literal years, but I still got some logs.
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>>2180290
XU is still based, Haddock's presence ALONE counters this shit.
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>>2180220
Love to see my shitpost getting spread.
Besides reading the tutorials you should watch the rivers for naval invasions because they can fuck you over..
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Is there a way to both the confederacy and Cascadia to reunify the us in the fire rises?
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>>2180305
From the sounds of things, no. Only one of the separatists can win the 2ACW.
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>>2180307
>separatists
I never understood why they need defeat all the factions and just the unifiers.
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>>2180307
this is false, multiple separatists can win
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>>2180290
Waifu.
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>>2180311
I'm pretty sure it's because they don't want to have to account for all the possibilities that emerge when multiple separatists win, I imagine the in universe explanation is the separatists don't want to have to worry about fighting the others down the line and a Cold War emerging in a broken up America.
>>2180317
Source?
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>>2180318
It's a subhuman troon, you retard.
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I realized catharsis europe probably still has nukes laying around from both the CSTO and the WEF so whoever dominates the continent could probably be a real problem for the remaining global powers
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Has the developers of the fire rises said anything about both Russia and China warlord states?
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>>2180333
>Cathartic Nihilism
>Aeonic Revanchism
>Racial Apotheosis
They're fucked if these guys get access to nukes, especially if they get Russia's nukes as well.
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>>2180354
Some of the Chinese warlords are planned to get content at some point, no clue about the Russian warlords.
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>>2180357
I don't get the middle one?
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>>2180357
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
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>>2180318
>troon
what's with you mentally ill faggots and calling women troons?
that's literally just Olga Kurylenko in Centurion
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>>2178813
I’ll play the BLA if I can get Tariq Nasheed as the country’s leader
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>>2180399
S H U T
>>2180356
>>2180357
Yeah, if these guys get their hands on nukes, the world's fucked. At least most of Europe and Asia.
>>2180403
Read
>>2180266
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>>2180134
Gunther
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>>2180238
The civil war can be avoided if he dies as long as one of the potential successors has enough glory points.
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>>2180386
I think he wants to turn the Human race into a hivemind or something?
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Heavenly_Father
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Ideologies#Obliteration_of_The_Self
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>>2180266
>transformation fetish
>it's not even the interesting kind
Good night, I hate transsexuals.
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>>2180328
It's not, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>2180403
Basically the direct opposite of what I said but ok.
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>>2177491
>full putin path
Lol. Next they’re going to add a “congress accepts diplomacy” path for the USA.
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>>2180417
Read
>>2180266
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>>2180420
>Having an early EW due to Putin being alive is the same as removing the ACW
You people are so dumb sometimes.
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>>2180420
I saw a proposal like that on reddit, it just turns 2ACW into something like Years of Lead.
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>>2177491
>new second war start
I’ve been thinking about that ever since I had the Eurointernational declare war on Serbia while they were in my faction which broke the game because none of the 2EW content was available even though most of Europe was at war with Russia again.
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>>2180421
I don't give a shit about the Brit dev, stopped reading.
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>>2180420
Its not TNO anon, theyre probably gonna make it based off that rumor from back when the war started that Putin had a brain Tumor and make him full blown schizo
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>>2180420
No because the 2ACW is necessary for the rest of the mod to happen.
>>2180425
That would still be dumb, even if that lead to America becoming hyper isolationist allowing the other wars to occur that'd just make playing America boring as fuck because you'd be managing crises without ever getting to fight in any wars.
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>>2180434
>Tabby-tier Putin
Based.
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>>2180305
You can give them autonomy in the National Confrence if you invite them to the NF. Nat Texas also can be given autonomy and youll see a regional modifier after you unite them.

For some reason its janky and I think only NSM as the faction leader can invite Nat Texas and the others. Cause for some reason Patriot Front as the NF leader only has options to attack Nat Texas even if you choose LoS over the AWD. And it can only be Cazzaro or Navarro's Cascadia whatever that fucks name is. Mike Ma Cascadia isnt inevitable.

So technically yeah. The PF/NSM can unify with the Confederacy and Cascadia.
You just have to agree to give them autonomy in the national confrence else you declare war on them.

Thats how things are as is. Im not sure about 1.1
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>>2180434
>demands explanation about Britain
>I give him explanation
>doesn't read it
Are you retarded?
>>2180437
>boring as fuck
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1o6523n/congress_accepts_diplomacy/
>multiple fronts all across America
>EXTREME(sic) infighting
>unorganized army
>a morale meter, which goes down every time one of the state governments gets annexed and tanks your war support, political power, command power, etc.
>if the major non-fed factions start struggling, they may form a temporary alliance between them that lasts until the end of the war
>negotiations between the parties at the end of the war have a high chance of breaking down, kickstarting another civil war, this time with only two factions
Yeah, I don't think you'll get bored.
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>>2180451
Actually belay what I said

Though there is a basic Yes or No event in the National Conference regarding autonomy. Only Texas and LoS get the regional modifier. Even if you agree to give Cascadia autonomy there's no regional modifier which makes me think that no dev thought they'd ever last that long against the APLA for the NF to defeat both Governments and reach the west coast in time.
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>>2180434
Oops, sorry, quoted the wrong guy.
Meant for
>>2180430
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Xhe is so beautiful...
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>TFR xitter account got suspended
Elon couldn't handle the kino teasers. I wonder which one did them in? Probably Nazzaro's Cascadia.
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>>2180472
AWD's gonna have a field day with her.
Scratch that, a field fortnight.
>>2180479
Sad! WOKE Elon better bring it back FAST, or there will be CONSEQUENCES for him and his CHINESE-SPONSORED APP!
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>>2180479
>Elon couldn't handle the kino teasers
What makes you think he watch them?
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>>2180326
>Source?
NAYRT but
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1jwvgba/comment/mmqucpf/
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>>2180500
>6 months ago
*clears throat*
>>2177702
>>2177702
>>2177702
THUNDERDOME GUY, QUIT LURKING AND GET THE FUCK IN HERE! WE NEED CONFIRMATION ON THIS SHIT!
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>TFR is 12k subs away from hitting half a million current subscribers
I know we just got a shit ton of teasers, but I hope they release a teaser to celebrate the milestone. Or just do anything to celebrate it really.
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>JVPITER doesn’t have any special 2EW content yet
>stuck with debuff that prevents earning any xp
Knew I should’ve lost the first war on purpose to play as Lafayette
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>>2180416
What is the interesting kind?
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Actually I can’t fucking read. I have to demobilize before I can remobilize again.
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>Putin lives path
Okay but what if this CHIM motherfucker never dies?

Would love if there was a curve ball where he lives but the mod is like
>oh you think the flames arent gonna rise? Fuck you heres a curve ball
And have idk Xi die from Covid instead of the Saudi King or Putin
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>>2180848
>Saudi Arabia intervenes directly in the Yemeni Civil War
>Iran declares war on the Saudis to defend the Houthi rebels
>Oil crisis is caused by Iran-Saudi NATO vs Russia proxy war instead of Saudi Civil war
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>>2180925
That's actually a fun idea. Still makes sure that the events can unfold down the like, but occasionally something like that happens to spice things up between 2020-2021.
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>>2180925
>>2180936
Are there any other wars like this that could be altered slightly to change up the early game? Off the top of my head, this might work too:
>An early Korean War replaces the Taiwan War; outcomes are the same for China & Japan, but the conflict is fought over a different landmass with less of a naval focus and the Taiwan War becomes the starting point of the GAW instead.
>South Korea has a way to fire it too, giving the PDTO side some room for initiative as well.
>Whether it's early or a normal start, Ukraine can launch an offensive into the Donbass area and trigger the war instead of Russia. In the case of an early start, the Russians may opt to decline to invade until later and temporarily use asymmetrical warfare against the Ukrainians.
>An alternate flashpoint for 1EW over the Baltics if Minsk somehow actually worked?
Doesn't get in the way of any events, but does change up the formula for some of the early wars which can get a little stale and railroaded after some time.
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>>2180970
>Ukraine
Hmm. What if Zelensky actually follows on his promise to normalise relationships with Russia. Then, radicals try to coup, so he calls in Russia for support.Belarus revolution can succeed as well and it can become the new flashpoint. Or if Russia manages to hold on to it as well Transnistria and Moldova can kick it off. Or it can start due to acw. Russia and EU support different factions and escalation there, say Russia kalibrating NATO forces causes a naval battle near American shores which turns into a full on war. Or northstream destruction causes Russia to retaliate by blowing up some pipeline/cutting cable/tunel which escalates into the war. Or baltics having a pro-russian revolt. Or Hungary/Slovenia siding with Russia, resulting in a coup/civil war. Or EU funding Caucasian separatists. Finland joining NATO being the red line. Serbian expansion starting later
Basically turn pre 1ew into a game of chicken. Both sides make moves, trying to get as much advantage before the war, while being careful not to start it too early.
Same goes for 2ew. A preventative attack by Russia/EU, Libya joining CSTO, EU declaring war to defend Kalmykia or waiting till Kuban capitulates and only jumping in to defend Ukraine.
Being somewhat scripted is a pretty common criticism of tfr, this could amend it. You still have your big wars on schedule, but the exact starting conditions vary. Adds lots of replayability.
Donwsides-this introduces lots of variables, which means more potential for nonsensical/unbalanced scenarios and softlocking. This also represents a significant amount of dev time. Currently you are expected to finish your focus tree by the time 1ew starts, so this screws the balance a bit. Focus trees will need tweaking. This would need to be 1.1-tier update
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>>2181027
I'd limit the number of hard variables for wars to actually start precisely because it's such a big expansion of scope. A few big ones, 2 or maybe 3 per major war, but have more small stakes proxies on the scale of Serbia. Too many variables is it's own kind of problem and wouldn't make things a lot better. See: 2WK in KR usually starts over the Franco-German border conflict, but the exciting thing is all the way alliances and army setups can change leading up to it.
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I'm gonna try Red Flood. Best countries for what the mod has to offer?
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>>2181101
While it sounds retarded I think the amount of variables in the leadup to the Oil Crisis in TNO is pretty good.
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>>2181156
Kavkas society by far. It starts off slow because it just gives a snippet each election candidate's day. After that thpugh it just non stop kino though. You can get stalin by letting the severyanin win the election btw.
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>>2181156
I'm a big fan of Churchill's India. All three routes are interesting and fun and the writing is pretty good. You can have a decent time with Germany and France too, both give you decent ideas of the type of wacky stuff the mod has on offer without giving you any major difficulty spikes. When you get more accustomed to the mod, Zheltorossiya in the far east has some really unique routes too including the most schizo one the mod has to offer. Kavkas that the above anon suggested is pretty kino too.
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>>2181211
>churchil india
white devil spotted
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What mod(s) do you guys consider the worst and boring?
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>>2181243
Worst has to be post-hijack TNO, hands down. Removing all content people actually liked, killing all updates they promised, removing all gameplay and going as hard as possible towards OTLism and liberal political sperging. Just a cancer upon the community.
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>>2181245
god this is so painful to look at
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>>2181245
What went wrong?
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>>2181243
Red Poop
Pax Britannica
Extremis ultis
Millenium Dawn
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>>2181267
Oh yeah and tota I fucking hate that garbage and furry devs who shilled it here
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>>2181267
>Extremis ultis
The mod is unfinished and leans a bit too hard into schizo stuff, but it's still fun. There's worse stuff out there.
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When nationalist Japan gets content in TFR (2 more years) I hope they're able to do heinous shit like blow up the Three Gorges Dam.
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>>2181243
Kalterkrieg is probably the worst because at least in tno you have the option of playing fun content like in russia.
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>>2181271
>but it's still fun
It's objectively a shitty mod. You can have fun playing a shitty mod while acknowledging it's inferior quality.
>There's worse stuff out there.
That's not a high bar considering slopmods get released every day.
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>>2181282
>It's objectively a shitty mod.
Yeah it's not great, however it being actually fun to play sets it leagues and shoulders above other mods.
>That's not a high bar considering slopmods get released every day.
No it's not, but its high enough of a bar to make it not one of the worst and most boring HOI 4 total conversion mods.
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>>2181284
>sets it leagues and shoulders above other mods.
Which is why I even remembered it's name. 99% of the mods are forgettable trash with 100 viewers which can't be named since I don't know about them. I listed worst mods that were talked about in recent times. EU received a lot of undeserved attention despite being dogshit which is why it was included
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>>2181274
I hope they lean into japanese building an extremely advanced military instead of just a single meme focus about exoskeletons
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>>2181296
>Robot suits
>Giant robot spiders
>Invisibility tech
I love that they lean into sci-fi stuff the farther into the mod you get.
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>>2181247
The mod was hijacked by a clique of friends that don't like HOI4 and tried to turn it into The Campaign Trail. They have a record of shitting up that community too. Just ask about people like Mango and QPQ in the TCT general on this very board. But over there this lot is more polarizing because they made content for TCT that have earned their fanbases. The problem is the push to turn HOI4 into a political events only game with nearly no gameplay.

>>2181267
I don't think any of these can be considered the worst by a long shot. They're all very flawed but at worst they just underdeliver on promises or end up being very mediocre.

>>2181289
You're coming off as just being butthurt at this point if you're salty at the mod getting more attention than you think it deserves.
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so is tno for vic 3 good?
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is there an ETA on the next TFR update or is it in toozer hell?
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>Go historical
>Have to fight 3 world wars with at least 1 tedious naval invasion againts the UK and USA
>Go non historical
>AI takes the perfect focuses just to block you out of any gameplay

Ok Paradox, I understand. You want me to spreadsheet everyone to death with Germany again for the 23rd time. I am not allowed to have fun otherwise.
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>>2181320
See >>2178100
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Fehlinger status?
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>>2181327
oh, i thought the next update was going to be USA faction updates, but this is cool too
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>>2181329
discovered shortform video content
we're screwed
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>>2181243
Not the worst mod but in one of the modern day mods there is a political event about religion and a choice goes "insert arbitrary belief" or something.
You just know one of the devs has been eternally traumatized because his parents forced him to go to church for a few years every sunday.
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>>2181332
>i thought the next update was going to be USA faction updates
That's the first major update, which is either the next update after this one or the update after the next medium update.
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>>2181333
EVROPA IS SAVED!
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>>2180848
>Xi dies
Russia sweeps in, takes Manchuria, NK and East Turkestan, then decides to kickstart the Korean war as China joins the PDTO both as an alliance of convenience and to take back its territory.
Europe, seeing their Eastern trade partners in danger, decides to launch an attack through Ukraine, which quickly turns into 1EW that is beaten back due to its disorganized army.
Am I cooking here?
>>2181342
I wonder what will happen if you manage to federalize the association.
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If I do proclaim rival government will I still be able to initiate border conflicts?
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>>2181027
That war Serbia always has with Croatia could be an interesting flashpoint for the first European war. It’s make sense for NATO to intervene if Serbia tried to restore Yugoslavia or Greater Serbia by force again and for Russia to back Serbia up.
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>>2181342
Which of them wanted to put politicians and governs into woodchippers?
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>>2181435
The Boogaloo Boys.
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The border conflict mechanic in china may be the single worst mechanic I have ever seen in a paradox game. The UI is so horrendous like who fucking designed that?
It never tells you clearly where to actually put your divisions. You set them up in one state, the game tells you to move to another but then the border conflict is in an entirely different state.
Why can't I just pick the nigger province I want to attack?
I just hope WW3 kicks of just so that sw*den gets nuked.
Hopefully this garbage mechanic will be reworked in the "free" additions of the next update. How can a company like this fumble so hard?
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>>2181101
Hmm, maybe start with escalation mechanic, where you can take actions that benefit you but raise tension and when it reaches a certain number it kicks off. Later add more actions.
Have the earliest date (Russia invading Ukraine) and latest (Ukraine capitulates).
Gonna draw a mock up later to get the idea across
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>>2181342
How would this even work?
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>>2181342
Also, why the hell does GMAC get one extremist path and the SOL gets two? I'm not complaining, but it isn't symmetrical, and there's quite a lot of potential paths for both factions that went unimplemented.
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>>2181481
>why the hell does GMAC get one extremist path and the SOL gets two?
Could be they just couldn't think of a second extremist path for them that would fit.
>there's quite a lot of potential paths for both factions that went unimplemented.
Such as?
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>>2181342
Why do I have a feeling that both of them start off with good intentions turned into blood thirsty monsters? Also why nothing on the Green Mountain Company?
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>>2181494
>Why do I have a feeling that both of them start off with good intentions turned into blood thirsty monsters?
Boogaloo Boys are 100% this.
>Also why nothing on the Green Mountain Company?
See >>2178216
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I never understood why the PF aren't in Texas.
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>>2181327
>Red Dawn
I wish one of the more nationalist/ultranationalism Russian paths let you pull one.
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>>2181508
They're in New England for the Second American Revolution larp and to have a far-right faction in the region. The South already has AWD and LOS. In ancient versions of the mod they were in Texas iirc.
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>>2181476
From my understanding they are seperate countries that share the big middle tree. If one country does an economic focus the other autocompletes it etc. The smaller trees are the actual political trees during the new england warlord stage.
The devs said that either they will both fight each other after killing everyone else in new england or can peacefully unite if they compromise.
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>>2181508
1776 LARP.

>>2181509
In timelines where America gets completely fucked I like to annex Alaska to top off my campaign. It's fun at least for now.
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>>2181494
They're in the bottom right in the focus tree and in the factions. Ingame though AFAIK they are getting annexed into the sons of liberty instead of being a starting tag.
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>>2181516
>Ingame though AFAIK they are getting annexed into the sons of liberty instead of being a starting tag.
Yeah I think they're merging the tags, right now they're their own tag. All thought they could still be a starting tag that quickly gets absorbed into the Sons of Liberty.
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>>2181512
Can the New York Police be the super villain instead?
>>2181516
Shame I would like to reunite the states under a mercenary state.
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>>2181435
>It's a military dictatorship that wants to fuck a lot of people up. They don't have a plan for governing the nation beyond throwing statists and bureaucrats into woodchippers.
sounds based to me
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>>2181525
>Shame I would like to reunite the states under a mercenary state.
You can, the GMC coup is seemingly that.
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>>2181528
>Wendigoon
I wonder if he'll be a general for the Sons of Liberty since he was affiliated with the Boogaloo Boys IRL.
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>>2181528
This is the best faction ever.
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The civil war needs an incel uprising faction
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>>2181552
it already has, they start in florida
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>>2181552
>AWD
>Mike Ma Cascadia and Vanguards of the Wild (death to modernity)
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>>2181342
I hope big tent lets you go full ancapistan
the children yearn for the McMines
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Will the Sons of Liberty lower the age of consent?
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>>2181568
>Paleos
Stays the same
>Pragmatists
Lower it a little
>Boogaloo Boys
>Big Tent
Abolish it cause that's oppressing mah liberty and freedom
>Green Mountain Company
Lower it enough to help breed more future mercenaries.
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>>2181571
What would the US even look like under their rule?
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>>2181490
>Such as?
*cracks neck*
SOL:
>Austrobert(economically darwinist and laissez-faire, have to maneuver between the people and the corpos, lean to the former, get couped by trade unions, lean to the latter, get couped by PMCs and corpos)
>Avaritionist(QRD: ancap but sociopathic, egoist, and darwinist. Also no NAP.)
>Svetovists(Russian-Americans in self-exile, will hand over at least Alaska, at most the country if he wins in Russia and they win in America)
>Minarchist Militia(minarchist in name only at the start, can either embrace the LARP or create a confederation of gangs and militia as a counter to the United and National fronts, with a power struggle mechanic between gangs and militias; if the latter win, it's a feudalist state of militia carving up the territory; if the former win, the nation breaks down almost immediately, with gangs, mafia, yakuza, cartels spilling over from Mexico, biker gangs spilling over from Canada, federal remnants and foreign interventions all fighting for their lives; basically Catharsis but toned down)
GMAC:
>Antifa(goes on a America-wide crusade against everything statist, breaks down immediately after)
>Mao-Spontex(QRD: anarcho-maoism from France that stands for a spontaneous revolution by the lower classes. You can imagine how that turns out.)
>Pol Pot thought(oh god oh fuck, got exiled from Cascadia for being too radical and violent, have an esoteric subfaction that praises the shambala, basically >>2180136)
>Hippies(remember all these new age witches, these hippies and junkies and starseeds and whatnot? Well, they decided to form a coalition and bring back peace to America with the power of crystal fucking magic and weed. It helps that the blunts are laced with speed, the crystals are attached to M4s as fucking scopes, and ritual circles are used to summon airstrikes. Basically wizard LARP. May actually discover magic.)
More?
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>>2181580
There would be no US to begin with it would be more of a loose confederation.
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>>2181623
Some how I doubt that with the GMC.
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>>2181623
>>2181651
Read >>2181615, I didn't work for half an hour on this shit to be met with silence.
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Can't tell if we got an influx of discord and reddit zoomies or if its just one attention whore shitting up each thread
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>>2181615
I'll be honest with you, I'm too retarded to understand what the fuck 90% of these ideologies are. A Pol Pot like path would be cool but I think Avakin's path will scratch that itch, Antifa is also covered by the Collectivists and Anarcho-Communist APLA path. Personally I think GMAC and SOL have a good number of paths, but GMAC having another coup path would be nice.
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>>2177089
I used to love Afghanistan in KSR since I love small nations becomming big and building up things but it seems they removed it from the selection. Propably because it hasnt been touched in ages.

Any other nations that are similiarly fun? I once tried the napoleon WC one but it was ass
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>>2181557
>Mike Ma Cascadia and Vanguards of the Wild
Impossible, there are women in those ranks.
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>Shambala
Isn't that the Chucky thing?
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If you guys could rewrite the fire rises how would you do it and why?
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>>2181744
>I'm too retarded to understand what the fuck 90% of these ideologies are.
Which ones need explaining?
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I assume these are the 3 LOS factions. Sauce: https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/League_of_the_South/Events
>Populists (Conservative)
>Old Guard (Initially Despotic -> Authoritarian Democrat)
>KKK (Fascist - hidden?)
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>>2181855
KKK looks like a coup path, there also might be a fourth path where you can cuck and join the ACG.
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>>2181859
Them cutting a deal with Trump and getting a bunch of states rights stuff jammed through wouldn't be the worst outcome for them to be honest especially if Patriot Front isn't an option.
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>>2181808
Samson option ends the game like the Atomwaffen ending if Israel capitulates.
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>Thousand Week Reich
It's really fun having no game rules with the few that are there not actually working. It's also a really cool experience having every event be random and your playthrough being hampered by rng defined at game start. Having a bunch of electoral options for the UK and US really make up for it, especially when they don't actually change anything.
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>>2181890
True, but still. They have the chance to obtain autonomy and accomplish what they couldn't in the first civil war and what do they do with this opportunity? Cuck and kneel. I'm not saying this path/outcome should be removed, just kind of a pathetic outcome for them.
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>>2181911
>Pathetic
Depends on how it's contextualized but if they make it out of it with significant levels of autonomy from the feds it can be pretty alright actually.
>Likely solved or improved several of their issues during the war by killing the Dems and black nationalists
>Region spared the worst fighting in the country
>Can exit the war as a relatively healthy economic engine of the country since they weren't bombed to shit/mass slaughtered
>Will influence the GoP going forward, Dixiecrat bloc essentially reconstituted within Trump's party
The alternative of fighting Trump would just devastate the south and if they were pragmatic about it, cutting a deal would be a good and safe bet, especially since Trump in most timelines wouldn't be as intransigent on their issues as Lincoln's government was in the 1860s. Total autonomy under a sympathetic PF or total victory are the best outcomes, but I don't think it's a total cuckout like you put it (unless it's characterized as a total surrender in which case fuck that). Plus lastly as a Trump player I'd honestly rather absorb them and inherit the Confederates as a minor faction than wage war with them. These are all states that Trump carried in 2016 too so going to war with them would be going to war with part of his and the conservative's base and I'd prefer the option of not killing them en masse desu.
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>>2181808
Overall things are pretty good lore wise. The main thing I'd change is that I'd give more "hints" towards future paths like in america. Have schwab give a speech at the bundestag during the oil crisis or mentions of growing han nationalism in china.
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>>2181942
Nta but I think it would be a good idea if a Trump aligned Confederacy could only be attained under the Patriot Caucus, it would however be a coin flip on whether or not the militarist wing of the ACG would rather total authoritarian control over the South or a socially aligned bloc to do the dirty work for them. Personally I am going to play the League as a defensive force with the Dixiecrats and an aggressive unifier as the Klan.
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>>2181942
I guess you're right, it really depends how they portray them reintegrating with Trump's America. He'd probably let them maintain their Dixie culture and continue to idolize and praise Confederate heroes/generals.
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>>2181957
Both sound like fun ideas for a playthrough.

>>2181971
Yeah it's all in the implementation. If I was making it I'd:
>Available to any Trump, but the AI is only likely to go for it under Patriot caucus or a very people-leaning Trump
>Add a state modifier in all Deep South states to represent their extended states rights; mix of pros and cons for the Trump player but not a huge deal
>Inherit their less radical generals
>Allowed to tag switch to Trump if doing this as LoS
>Events about Michael Hill becoming the governor in one of these states, LoS people entering Congress or otherwise getting good endings; at least a handful of events to show that the compromise worked out in their favor to some degree
>MAGA rallies with Trump and Michael Hill let's go
ymmv but something like that just off the top of my head. But if it's portrayed as a surrender or LoS just getting eaten without any positive feedback for them then that'd be a letdown.
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The KKK wouldn't ally with Trump, he's not nearly enough of a racist for that.
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>>2181985
The KKK are a coup path, and yeah Trump wouldn't ally with them and the KKK certainly wouldn't want to ally with Trump either.
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>>2181982
Hey, aren't you that TRUMP.WAV guy or something? Did you find the channel?
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Does anyone have the old hyperjumper videos? I see the trailer got reuploaded but what about the "TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING" one?
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>>2181808
Make how fucked up things are clear from the start with more narrative events with reocurring characters that provide options during these events to give context to what's being discussed if it's different from OTL. Make events that hint at what's to come like >>2181946 suggested, with things like the Freedom Club being resurrected by copycats and renewing "their" bombing campaigns (or worse) to signal that Ted coming, with reactions to it in letters by Ted similar to how Mason reacts to AWD, and Mike Ma actually doing Gothic Violence as an autobiography rather than a narrative in a pre-2ACW partnership with Atomwaffen as an equal to The Movement and precursor to the National Front. Expand the minigame about "The Movement" to be about more than just The Movement taking territory by including gangs and the mentioned precursor to the National Front. Make it obvious that The Movement isn't just Progressives, but also Black Nationalists, Communists, etc, and that they have internal divisions which will come to a breaking point with the civil war and/or how the president handles them before it. Let the player be able to play the divisions of various factions against each other and tackle or play as the various factions how they want before the 2ACW to strengthen their side or weaken others. Add 2016 MAGA radical vanguardists who can turn against Trump, especially for broken promises like locking Hillary up and misunderstandings like investigating Epstein. Add the border wall on the map as an interactable monument/upgradeable stronghold network that controls Mexican immigration. Add George Floyd as an optional submod to replace the fictional black guy who dies, or put in an easter egg about a living George Floyd. Make certain focuses pre-2ACW optionally required for certain paths to be open to the player (eg. allying the media and Bloomberg, expanding lockdowns and the deepstate coup, allying moderate Republicans and Republicans), and include events about them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gh5UAMrfqM
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I hope American Carnage Trump is in 1.1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYR6qmRq6aM&list=RDMYR6qmRq6aM&start_radio=1
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>>2182010
The devs should add this in the game.
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>>2182010
>play as the various factions how they want before the 2ACW to strengthen their side
This will be kinda in, in 1.1. You'll get a unique pre-2ACW focus tree depending on what faction you want to play as.
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>>2181744
Read
>>2181843
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>>2182012
Thank you Patriot, 07
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>reading Harassment Architecture in preparation for TFR 1.1
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>>2182028
I listened to the audiobook last week
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>>2181615
I usually prefer fascist paths in hoi4 mods but the first country I’ll play in 1.1 is Maoist Cascadia and I would definitely play your Maoist GMAC path if it was in the mod.
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>>2181985
They're not talking about the KKK.

>>2181995
That channel was sadly deleted. I wish I could find his videos. The GoP primary videos were so kino. Had a dream like quality to them.
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>read Harassment Architecture
>it's not about buildings stalking people
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>>2182049
Thanks! What about the rest of the paths?
>>2182049
Try searching for it on the archives, maybe they have it there.
>>2182028
Y'all really preparing for this, huh? May I recommend this:
https://library.frenschan.org/
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>>2182019
Can someone check the Telegram channel with RU-TFR leaks again? They probably dropped new teasers on the anniversary.
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>>2182081
Nope, nothing
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>>2182056
I've searched a lot for several years eventually I just gave up plus the fact that it was "TRUMP" in the name pollutes the search results a lot and all the videos I remember the names of had equally polluted titles like "so and so primary" in the title. I remember it like it was yesterday though. New Hampshire primaries and this thing plays in between various 80s show clips while waiting for the results to come in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IykMZhjnh3g
Good times. It was such an interesting and fun time period.
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>>2182096
You sure you didn't dream it up?
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>>2182050
Are Harassment Architecture and Gothic Violence actually any good?
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>>2182120
As mentioned, nobody is attacked by a building in the former, and nobody is attacked by teens going through a phase, stupid poetry, or Evanescence in the latter.
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>>2182120
harassment architecture is generally considered pretty good for a relatively recently written book that was self-published, even redditors and literary normies seem to think it has some merit even if they disavow the book for being a heckin nazi chud manifesto. it spawned a bunch of other /lit/ chud copycats who wanted to make their own schizo chud novel though i don't think any came near the "success" that HA had
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UPDATE:
>The Big Tent is split between Minarchists led by Jacob Hornberger, and the radicals led by Spike Cohen

>The Paleos are led by Michael Heise

>The Pragmatists are led by Justin Amash
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>>2182168
Source? Big Tent being two paths is big if true.
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>>2182174
>source?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1odjz3s/comment/nkutj8w/?context=3
That makes it two paths more than GMAC.
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>>2182197
Interesting, shame Carla can't remain the leader at all. Not a lot of female leaders in the mod.
>That makes it two paths more than GMAC.
Well it's possible one of those GMAC paths also has two separate paths within one of them as well.
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Why didn't any of these people try anything during the chaos that was the George Floyd riots?
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>>2182218
Unlike BLM the law would’ve actually been enforced against them.
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>>2181245
>2 countries developed in 4 years
how do you reach this level of inefficiency
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>>2182231
>how do you reach this level of inefficiency
by constantly restarting reworks. they'll get like halfway through and then a lead will decide to go back to restart the whole thing because it wasn't "realistic" enough
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>>2182231
Socialism.
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>>2182110
Yes, the channel ran throughout the 2016 election cycle and at least a while beyond that. All the guy's vids were very sovlful and had lots of vaporwave mixed with ads and assorted clips from shows from mostly the 1980s to create a vibe while waiting for results and such. It was something that could probably only have come together during that era, and at some point either the channel was banned or the guy simply removed all his stuff. I'm 99% sure it's just straight up lost media at this point.
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>>2181296
That's just ghost in the shell.
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I want to get into HOI4 modding and help a team but I'm scared of fucking things up.
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>>2182545
Almost everyone will fuck things up on their attempts in doing something. Assuming you don't join a notoriously toxic team like TNO it shouldn't be a problem and even there the regular members are often decent enough to at least show new people the ropes and be permissive of rookie mistakes. Never forget: you miss every shot you don't take so if you do want to do something you shouldn't be afraid to at least try because every single modder that isn't cursed with a bloated ego (sadly common) had the same worries as you do.
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>>2182545
What >>2182601 said.
Also, can you get into the TFR/RF/EAW/XU/FMTW/MD/Modernity Collective/(insert mod here) devcord so that we'd have a relative understanding of where the mod is going and a stable stream of gossip and teasers? The more, the better.
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>>2182665
I'd discourage leaks from teams that aren't actually assholes. Aside from grudges and similar petty shit it's bad form to mess with teams. This is why the only people that actively get their shit leaked is TNO.
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>>2180386
>>2180412
It's based on 1984 China
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>>2182677
Literally 1984.
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>>2182665
>Modernity Collective
QRD?
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>>2182698
I think it's a group of modders that churn out haha lmao so random xDD mods. Last time they were brought up people accused them of being responsible for a lot of the weird-on-purpose mods that have been toozed a lot lately.
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>>2182601
Thanks.
>>2182665
>TFR/RF/EAW/XU/FMTW/MD/Modernity Collective
The mod I'm interested in isn't listed here. Wouldn't want to leak anything too important/personal anyway.
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>>2180357
new warlord era content when?
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>>2182716
>TFR beats TNO at its own game by adding more Russian warlords with playable content faster and better than TNO does except it's all post-2EW
I'd love for some of the contenders to be unique pro-European governments, like a Dirlewanger-tier group set up in the PoS timeline or an EU radlib peacekeeping force in the Medvedev fail timeline.
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>>2182701
Yeah, they're the guys behind DiB and SoP. The shit they make is really interesting, some of the ideas they bring to the table may be revolutionary if they're done right.
I expect them to become something along the lines of modern KX and a major force on the modding field.
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>>2182730
It's a coin flip. They'll either crash and born and just be known for meme mod toozer garbage and a collapse involving trannies or they'll become the new KX. No middle ground, I only see either extreme with them.
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I like the idea of post-catharsis, Chinese and Russian warlords. But I don't like the idea of playing for years just to reach them.
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>>2182769
They're going to add a debug mode for them I'm sure.
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>>2182769
Personally I don't mind, but I get why others would. Maybe they should add a second start date that starts you out with a collapsed America (3ACW), post-Catharsis Europe, collapsed Russia, and collapsed China?
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>>2182753
I'm putting it all on "new KX."
I believe in them creating Hollywood level schizokino, even if they have to poach a mod or two for devs and content on the way.
>>2182780
But how would you set up the exact type of collapse?
Maybe you need a fractured post-nationalist China, Army of DJT/Caligula civil war, post-CPRF Russia and a Lafayette Europe spiraling into civil war, or some hyperspecific scenario like that.
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What's factions for the fire rises are you guys hype for and want to play.
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>>2182805
LOS, SOL, Nazbols.
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>>2181744
Read
>>2181843
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>>2182753
IMO those mods read more like just hobby world building, which to be fair in cases like DIB is pretty cool.
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Aaand we're over the bump limit. Fucking wonderful.
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>>2182793
>Asia
Loji China gets BTFO but managed to BTFO India beforehand, readd the Japanese Civil War, and have it begin shortly after the start date.
>America
Secure Our Democracy version of the 3ACW after Biden makes Hunter his heir.
>Europe
Schwab wins the 2EW, but loses to the Catharsis.
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>>2182805
Mike Ma Cascadia, Carnage Trump, and the Black Liberation Army.
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>>2182805
Top 3 for 1.1 would have to be
>Mike Ma Cascadia
>Vanguard of the Wild
>Boogaloo Boys
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>>2182859
>Boogaloo Boys
I thought they were a political party of sol.
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>>2182862
>I thought they were a political party of sol.
Yeah, but they can coup the SOL and that's one of the top three paths I'm looking forward to.
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>all of ascadia
>Vanguard of the Wild
>Boogaloo Boys
>Nation of Islam
>Gennyady Zhuganov
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>>2182889
>pic
norwegian social democracy with Russian characteristics.
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>>2182822
Good idea, but some people may want a custom campaign tailored to their preferred scenario, and the devs have repeatedly said that there is no canon path, so I think that a game menu letting you select your preferred options would work a lot better than what you proposed.
They should definitely readd the Japanese civil war and the Sahara Collapse.
As for my preferred option:
>Asia
Restoration of the Empire, BTFOs India and Japan, uses the Revenge for Nanking focus, collapsing the japs into a civil war, rest of the PDTO manages to finish it off, but are at high risk of a civil war too. Also, China managed to establish a purification zone in Indochina before collapsing.
>Europe
Lafayette wins the 3EW, but he's in a critical state (shouldn't have lead the army in 2-3EW and dueled Franz on the roof of a collapsing Reichstag), as is his empire(shouldn't have purged half the country because of racial purity, paranoia, and bloodlust), with an impending civil war between the various wings of the party, the state sec, the army, and the people(who at this point are more of a far-left Catharsis)
>Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia
Shit's fucked.
>Elaborate?
Samson Option happened, then the Sahara Collapse, then Afghanistan, Pakistan and ISIS remnants in Iran decided to launch one last Jihad to Central Asia, Pakistan got hit by the GAW, Afghanistan had a mountain levelled by a couple of stray nukes, and the counterattack failed completely, launching a Turkestan-wide rebellion.
>America
Authdem PF won, the elections got rigged by the CIA remnants to cause another civil war to take back the country, AWD threw a tantrum and made it nuclear. Except half the nukes failed, and now the West Coast is irradiated, Rousseau launched a Stalinist purge, the country is collapsing, and the nuked South America is going batshit insane.
>Africa
ISIS-Wagner war, Somalia is starting to notice they're in a game, rest is Apartheid.
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>>2182927
Barely managed to fit it in, please give feedback.
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>>2182927
>ISIS-Wagner path
how I wish they'd kept ISIS. The Saudi, 2nd Syrian, Libyan & American civil wars would be a gift straight from Allah for ISIS. They would have a genuine chance to retake their previous territory and even expand it.
>snuff production decision minigame that increase a weekly manpower buff
>border-warring and taking individual strategic enclaves out of countries all over MENA
IIIII NEED IT!
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>>2182927
Cool ideas even if these would all require a shit ton of work, are customizable game starts even possible in HOI4?
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Australian civil war if they lose the Great Asian War. Factions are the legitimate government, Chinese backed communists, far right groups, military junta, and Abowaffen death squads.
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>>2182956
>Australia
I'm surprised the NSN aren't in as a skeleton path for Australia when they lose the Taiwan War.
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>>2182955
You literally have one in vanilla
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>>2182927
>shouldn't have lead the army in 2-3EW and dueled Franz on the roof of a collapsing Reichstag
Is this actually in the mod? It better be.
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>>2182963
I haven't played vanilla in years.
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>>2182952
If the Naqshbandi order resurfaces a decade after they've been thought to have been disbanded then ISIS returning wouldn't be a stretch at all.
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>>2182969
It's the path picker thing literally right next to the "start game" button. It lets you customise what path the AI is gonna take throughout the run, and also toggle secret paths if there are any.
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>>2182970
>ISIS returning
ISIS affiliates still exist in the Sahel, and one can appear in Saudi Arabia. I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi-ISIS would try to resurrect ISIS in general if it won the civil war.
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>>2182971
You're talking about the game rules. What I'm talking about is being able to customize what the starting scenario looks like, I don't think that's possible in HOI4.
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>>2182973
It'd be interesting in the Philippines conflict with ISIS affiliated Moro separatists was implemented into TFR and revanchist China was able to support them to weaken an ally of the PTDO.
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>>2182969
>>2182971
No, it is the choice of 1936 or 1939 start
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>United MENA ISIS intervening in the 2EW to absorb all of europe into the Caliphate
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>>2182989
>gets nuked by christian atomwaffen
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>>2182964
It isn't, but it's completely in character, and in the original draft it was Radelsfuhrer whom he would suplex through the roof, then walk out with his severed head.
>>2182974
You can pick whether Mittelafrika starts united or in a civil war in KX, I think.
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I never understood why you can't play as Wagner Russia in a legitimate way..
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>>2183037
Soon+2 weeks, in No Truce With the Furies. Probably.
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>>2183037
Because the path is pretty unfinished, after its got some work done you'll be able to play it normally without having to enable it in the game rules.
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>2 weeks until 1.0.8
>the redditors are already shitposting about a civil war
Can we get a visit from the thunderdome guy? It's awfully boring here without him.
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>>2182922
How about Atomwaffen Division with Russian characteristics
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>>2182805
None, I can't play TFR
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>>2183057
>Can we get a visit from the thunderdome guy?
Some of you guys bug that dude way too much, he's not gonna pop in when something big happens if people keep begging for him to show up.
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What makes nazbol different from nazi ideologies? Best I got is that nazbol is national communism instead of national socialism.
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>>2183115
National Socialism is a form of Counter-Marxist Non-Marxist Socialism. National Bolshevism is a form of Post-Marxist Socialism derived from National Socialism that seeks to blend the Bolshevik, typically Stalinist, platform with National Socialism while retaining Bolshevism.
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>>2183061
Gigabased, but which one exactly? There's AWD proper, there's Rusich, there's RNU, satanic cults, etc etc etc. Pick a flavor.
>>2183100
He'll pop in, trust. I probably should stop begging for him to show up, though.
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>>2181398
Russia would be at a disadvantage during the 1EW because of how the Ukraine war went IRL
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>>2183200
>Take more time to prepare
>Fully mobilize
>Ukraine isn't receiving any aid from the USA
I don't know if they'd win the 1EW, but they'd fare a lot better.
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>>2183203
>Europe gets hit with a stronger form of covid, an oil crisis, an economic crash and an another refugee crisis.
>They need to convince young men to die for Ukraine while all of this happening.
Lore wise, it is definitely plausible for Russia to win.
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>>2183122
Right
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>>2183200
TFRTL=/=OTL
Oil crisis is basically infinite momey glitch for Russia
Europe is getting hit with acw and financial crisis far harder than Russia
Proxy wars in africa can deprive europe of even more gas and all of uranium, even in the current conditions industry took a hit
Plenty of mistakes made early was because Putin wanted an agreement reached, someone like Zhirinovsky would go for kill from day one. This would mean Ukraine would have much harder time mobilizing
Ukraine also has one of the largest armies in europe. Britain, for example, has less than 300 challengers, and that's if they all are in working conditions.
Getting Europe, especially Hungary or Zemmour France , to fight would be hard, if not impossible.
Lack of US aid will hit hard
It's not modeled, but Russia has significant cold war stockpiles. If it turns into a war of attrition Russia can simply outlast EU
>>2183194
I want a Rusich path. Imagine using chemical weapons on Holy See and puting Varg in charge of Scandinavia. Official rusich channel went full on RaHoWa one time, but I am pretty sure paradox wont be too happy.
RNU should be an LDPR successor. It's odd that fucking Biden has an NS path but not Russia.
>>2181398
You are microwaving at best
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It feels weird that Russia tries to stabilize Saudi Arabia and even gets a decision to negotiate a truce between Hezbollah and MBS when it’s in their best interests to keep Saudi Arabia burning so the oil crisis can keep NATO crippled.
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>>2183238
Pre-Marxist Socialism was largely about the use of state action against market forces to better the lives of individuals (though this is a gross oversimplification) and did not subscribe to Marx's theory of labor and class struggle (see: Syndicalism). National Socialism was a revival of nationalist strains of Pre-Marxist Socialism against Marxist Socialism to run counter to it. Bolshevism is an inherently Marxist ideology, even down to subsects like Bukharinism, because it subscribes to the theory of labor and class warfare. National Bolshevism seeks to take the "Counter-Marxist" part away from National Socialism because and blend it to retain the Bolshevik platform while also answering nationalist desires. Stalin, for example, is a major NatBol hero in comparison to Trotsky.
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Extremist paths for glorious Nippon when?
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>>2183277
Ah, now it makes sense.
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>>2183270
>Biden has an NS path
If you're talking about Caligula, I'm pretty sure it's despot.
>Rusich
Based as fuck, we need a pagan jihad/race war across all Eurasia.
>RNU
Why not a loss path-
>Dugin, Limonov, Navalny, Svetov
-yeah, you have a point.
>microwaving at best
Well, I was using TMW as the reference point, so it's not really surprising it turned out mediocre. What do you think could make it better?
>>2183272
Coming in 1.2, trust the plan. What paths do you expect the most? It's NSJAP, Aum Shinrikyo, EAAJAF, Yakuza, Zaibatsus, and Imperial Japan restoration paths for me.
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>>2182805
>dark maga
>mike ma
>ancaps
>boogaloo boys
>vanguard of the wild
>post-catharsis (several kino ideologies there)
>Gazi's total kkkrakkka death wild ride
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>>2183337
Oops, fuck, misquote.
Meant for
>>2183298
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>>2183338
LOS? The Deep State(not coloring their focus tree glowie green is the greatest missed opportunity of the year)? Nazbols? Khodorkovsky? NOD?
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>>2181211
did they change Churchill's India? last time I played it, it was a hatewank doomed to collapse no matter what
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>>2183360
>LOS?
literally not teased, no idea what their paths even are
>The Deep State(not coloring their focus tree glowie green is the greatest missed opportunity of the year)?
looked like Schwab lite desu
>Nazbols? Khodorkovsky? NOD?
Russia sucks, every playthrough is
>Fight Europe and then, erm... fight Europe again
but with a different map colour
Asia and America are both way more fun wars to play
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>>2180848
>>2180925
>>2181398
Would be hella interesting if this dude being alive would makes things even worse for the world in general. Since apparently part of the TFR events were schemed by the Bogs/Schawb. So they kickstart other blood feuds around the globe to push their agenda
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>>2183380
>literally not teased, no idea what their paths even are
We got this military toozer a bit back and an infantry sheet. But besides that we've got nothing besides what's already in the mod and a few dev comments. They're probably like the NSM and have a hardliner and reformer path, but based off the infantry sheet and events in the files they seem to also have a KKK coup path.
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>>2182545
The Pride and Fall team is recruiting now ;)
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>>2181541
>>2181528
Didn't he start the movement by just larping and making meme remarks about society, and then got confused as fuck when it turned into a real movement and thus he dipped? Would be interesting if TFR takes a similar interpretation
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>>2182805
LoS, SoL, Boogaloo Boys, Yukos, WEF Biden, Uncle Ted.
I'll play more of them and these are in no particular order but they all seem very interesting.

>>2182819
Who cares? It'll take 3-5 days before we need a new thread.

>>2183061
Atomic Orthodoxy would be hilarious but they're nothing like ATW. It's a theocratic state that likes nukes, not an accelerationist hellscape.

>>2183270
>The ACW and Ukraine losing its biggest arms supplier and financier by orders and magnitude would have no impact on events at all, actually
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>>2183410
Yeah, but It'd still be fun if he was in the SOL as a general/advisor. You could explain it as the nation going to shit and increasing radicalization leads to him believing the Boogaloo Boys are actually needed. That or make him a general/advisor for one of the Christian 2ACW tags when they get content (Army of God/Hutaree Milita).
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>>2181765
Another mod and theme entirely, but the Sierra Enclave mod for OWB has you start as a tiny tiny group of military veterans hiding in a bunker, to doing a WC (Well, not exactly, since the map is only amerikka). You have interactions with (almost) all the big tags, and you have focuses and mechanics about rebuilding the country, such as recreating the IRS, railways and turning the tribal america militia into a proper army
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>>2183337
>What paths do you expect the most?
Horse jockeys, tired of being ignored, band together and overthrow the government.
They form the Universal Movement Alliance (UMA for short)
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>>2183419
AWD had a cell in Russia, look up AWD Russland.
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>>2183433
Germany has an event about having an AWD cell, but it's never brought up again or goes anywhere. Would be cool if they somehow survive everything and pop up post-Catharsis.
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>>2183360
>NOD?
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>>2183431
A serious path.
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>>2182793
Aliens.

Honestly a total collapse world as an AU starter date would be neat
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>>2183433
Stay on topic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Orthodoxy
He posted an image of these guys and denoted them as being different from AWD, not that he was talking about the literal Russian AWD.
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>>2182927
>>2182964
>>2183025
>Tfw Franz and Lafa have a duel of fates typa shit with vibroblades and all that. Franz mangled, charred body is thrown out of building, only to be rebuilt by Schawb as THE TRUE Rafelfuher
I would kneel hard
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>>2183443
It is serious, though. Ever been kicked by a horse?
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>>2183440
which way, commanding and conquering man?
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>>2183478
Really cool of the yellow zones to be exactly the shape of modern nations. Crazy how nature do dat.
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>>2183437
They'll be either Racial Apotheosists or Aeonic Revanchists.
>>2183380
>Russia sucks, every playthrough is
>>Fight Europe and then, erm... fight Europe again
>but with a different map colour
I hope the devs add some variety to how the wars are started, having Russia be the aggressor every time starts to feel railroaded.
>>2183449
Ooh, I've never heard about them before. A CPU coup path would be even better though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceptual_Party_%22Unity%22
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>>2183461
A cyborg Frank Franz/Radelsfuhrer with WG chips in his brain as the Order/Purity remnant would go hard.
>>2183462
That's an April Fools path, get your head in the game.
>>2183446
>Aliens.
Excuse me?
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>>2183122
>buzzwordslop
how are political ideologies even real, i can't believe in shit anymore beyond tribalism for what i consider my people
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Would be cool if this played when you defeat Eurasia as Europe/lose the 2EW as Eurasia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4scVGx75lo&list=RDk4scVGx75lo&start_radio=1
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>>2183601
>pinups of ye olde: beautiful women
>pinups now: ugly people that may not even be women
That has to destroy morale. No, pic is not related, but I'm 100% sure it's happening IRL
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>>2183025
I imagined it more like the ending of Modern Warfare 3 where Price and Makarov fight on a rooftop.
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>>2183644
>people that may not even be women
That's a meme using the main character from the official non-canon TFR comics.
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I knew I had to attack Radelsfuhrer once he stopped wearing the mask. I thought we were brothers but now I look like an idiot being the only one with a mask.
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>>2183657
I know. I did say 'pic is not related'. That girl is a supermodel compared to the stuff you see nowadays.
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>>2183644
>Puts up a pinup of something resembling an attractive woman in UOA
>Court marshaled for sexism
If only you knew how bad things really are.

>>2183660
Why does he do that anyway?
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Why is Fire Rises now copying TNO toozers? Do they wish to copy their development process?
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How do I minimax the League of the South Path and avoid filler trap focueses? Thanks.
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>>2183764
>say "let's move, guys!"
>court martialed
Eh, the legally acknowledged govts and their military forces might retain enough discipline to actually work. The real far left groups, though?
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>>2183601
What a great track, I am glad they do play the Helghast March with Dugin's victory.
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>>2183774
Low-tier bait or retardation.

>>2183776
>How do I minmax a path that isn't released yet

>>2183787
Reminds me of Union of Britain in Kaiserreich and how they'd start with several debuffs because their anarchist army refused to follow orders and the horizontal hierarchy made half the people function as officers. It's a fun piece of flavor to go with your military growth.
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>>2183840
I'm just asking a question you snowflake faggot. Why are zoomer losers always so sensitive?
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>>2183866
>Asks a retarded question
>Gets called retarded
>"How could this happen to me? :("
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>>2183870
Sorry but my original post supersedes yours because of its repeating digits (and also because you are obviously a zoomer loser) meaning that it is the whole and ultimate truth. You may submit an appeal only when you submit full and indubitable proof to the court of your peers that you have lost your virginity. Otherwise, it's pretty clear that I'm still right.
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>>2183875
>Calls others zoomers
>Types like one himself while coping and seething about being called dumb on the Internet by a random
Butthurt.
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>>2183876
So you admit to the court that you are, in fact, a virgin who cannot disprove my point. Chalking up another W
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>>2183449
>Nuclear Orthodoxy has become a part of the ideology of the Russian Orthodox Church
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>>2183880
Cope and sneed, retarded virgin, for your L's are many and your bitches none.
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>>2183891
Yeah, it do be like that-
>realization
Sweet fuck almighty, the Tsargrad path may just be the most based one.
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>>2184021
>W-WAIT NO ACKTUALLY HERE IS HOW I WIN
Yes this is why you retards always lose in real life and have to rely on computer country victory. Get a girlfriend for once kek
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>>2184035
>get a gf
Dude you're the moron that's picking fights over nothing on 4chan, get fucked you're even lonelier than the TNOtards.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbYRTKRAwp0
It's NATO time.
Not UNO time.
Get. It. Right.
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https://youtu.be/2q4RUhuFMgs
Based Fehlinger is starting his own podcast, by the way.
TFR devs, take note.
Every episode is sure to be schizophrenic enough to provide material for several focus trees.
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>>2183449
>Nuclear Orthodoxy
>expect a religion that has the nuclear family as its core
>it's Russian AWD made religion
I can't be the kind of idiot that sees the 'beware of sharks' sign and complains when a shark bites me. But I guess I am.
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I wonder if TFR is going to be relevant in 5 years?
Depends on paradox entertaiment, if they want to continue updating hoi4 or release hoi5
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>>2184141
Depends on if the mod ever gets hijacked by realismfags and if they make a sequel mod for HOI5/port the mod over to HOI5.
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>>2184146
I imagine the painstaking process of transfering TFR HOI4 code to HOI5
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>>2184035
As I said before...
Cope.
And.
Seethe.
:)
>>2184101
Holy fuck, he got his podcast setup after all.
GigaGunther bout to provide material for the devs until 2070(in-game).
>>2184141
Yes, and it will be relevant in 10 years too.
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>>2184184
If TFR going to be relevant aslong as HOI4 is still being updated, then what about TFR relevancy in 100 years?
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>>2184207
Don't count on it, TFR will finish development in-
>consults the voices
-15 years from now, on October 18, 2040.
Don't worry about the agenda.
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>>2184101
LISTEN AND LEARN.
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>>2184141
>hoi5
Hopefully with multicore support.
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>>2184302
this something we need right now, and hopefully with GPU support
>>2184231
I think in 100 years irl USA will be different, so we might need TFR 2.
Like: "Take yourself into alternate 2120s where USA fell into second (third???) civilwar"
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In an alternate timeline Gunther would be a high ranking SS officer drawing up world conquest plans to create ex-Amerika.
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>>2184308
>I think in 100 years irl USA will be different
Please, the USA from 10 years ago was vastly different from the USA of today.
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If you guys could reworked a focus tree for the fire rises which country, how would you do it, and why?
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>>2184318
Rework all but one post-EW loss tree for Russia, so that they all looked different instead of the same trident-like shape of
>politics
>territories
>war+economics
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>>2184318
NSM, not sure how exactly I'd change it other than adding some other potential leaders. I liked the /fit/ Burt idea spitballed in here so maybe have that incorporated.
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>>2183337
He can have Spencer as his successor
>>2184318
Atomwaffen
Not in the sense of making it more realistic.
But currently you are very dependent on your retarded allies, and if pf loses with new content you are basically shafted
Plus revolt is kinda stupid
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>>2184318
Russia and Germoney so that I could play whatever Germoney I wanted against Russia post-1EW and not require route-specific losses.
>Ehrmmm achually it's so that you can tailor your loss perfectly to an oppo-
Nice try but LDPR can already go communist and you can't convince me that both the USSR and LDPR wouldn't love to fight ultralib EU.
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>>2184395
Well the LDPR communist path you're talking about is a bit of a hidden path, and I imagine the fascist UR path won't be too obvious on how to get either. I wonder if Red Dawn is gonna add a fascist path to CPRF Russia?
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>>2184318
have you looked at current american factions focuses and compared them to content coming in 1.1? i feel little bit off
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>>2184360
problem?
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>>2184405
1.1 definitely looks like a big step up, but the OG 2ACW factions are still good. They could just use some polishing and more flavor, besides the NSM who need a major overhaul.
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>>2184425
since 1.1 gonna polishing post 2ACW content, we might have chance they might upgrade OG factions
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>>2184395
I think the best way to do this is to add event flags for the far left/right getting enough support in Germany. We already see something like this in France, with events that have 'This will lead to a rise in socialism/fascism!' as byproducts. If enough of those happen, then Germany gets couped by far-right military officers or overthrown by far-left mobs.
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>>2184318
Atomwaffen. Better characterization for CI and Accelerationists and rework the Military tree so that you don't have to choose between chemical weapons and nukes. (left side focusing on a more professional military with right keeping the asymetrical/milita focus) also I saw some anon suggest alternate anti-atw revolts (Daemonic incursion for satanists and the 2nd coming for CI) a while back so i would implement those as well as more flavor, including an event chain for the satanists couping the division (with the superevent only playing after the coup succeeds instead of immediately after you click the reunification button), among other things
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>>2184502
Fully agree with you on the military tree, but an expansion would be even better. Why use the same old trinity of nuclear-chemical-biological WMDs, when you can simply get together a think tank of absolute psychopaths (as in the average AWD officers) and get a dozen creative ways of killing cities worth of people per month while the feds struggle to come up with one in a decade?
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The trailer is phenomenal kek
https://youtu.be/onghS9ELZRA?si=_UG9_lAHjqzruxTv
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>>2184638
The devs didn't know what they had with this masterpiece.
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>>2184404
>Hidden
1: Wrong, just accept the commies into your movement, keep things near the middle, don't tank support for the far-left. It's something you can do by accident and isn't harder than any of the other routes. You might as well say that the theocracy is hidden because it requires doing a specific focus and then hiring a specific minister.
2: Wouldn't matter if it was hidden. I can currently play TotSoc Russia against TotSoc Germany and it doesn't break the entire mod so why not let me play monarchist Russia against monarchist Germany or EU Germany or any other Germany?
3: Not having this route-specific railroading doesn't break say China so it's asinine to argue that it has to be around for Germany and France specifically.

>>2184438
As long as it doesn't depend on Russia's path and I can pick whatever I want as Germany or go up against as whatever Russia I'm playing as I'm happy.
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>>2183644
Pretty sure trannyposters would call Bettie Page a man if she was a model nowadays
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>>2184638
The trailer while really cool, doesn't really do the best job of teasing the mod. It's way too focused on the ACG and barely teases other 2ACW groups like the UOA, 09A AWD, and Anarchist APLA. Doesn't tease any of the other wars in the mod at all as well. I prefer the original trailer because it teases the AWD way more and uses the ACG's actual flag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A2ZwzP9Yw4
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>>2184654
I wish they made another one on the anniversary.
I hope they make something like that, but 10 minutes long for the release of 1.1.
>>2184678
But how would the devs explain in from a lore standpoint?
>the left in Russia beat us, let's go left
>>But doesn't that just prove them ri-
>THEY WERE THE WRONG KIND OF LEFT, WE'LL BE THE RIGHT KIND!
I can understand Franz vs LDPR, but how would Lafayette come to be then? He was radicalized while fighting against the USSR, they would have to make a different Lafayette for LDPR and UR, maybe even more if the Frozen War turns out to be what I think it will be.
All of this is a lot of work for the writers, coders, painters, etc. which will extend the development of the mod even more.
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>>2184725
It's actually pretty reasonably justified in that it's meant to always give you a true enemy to fight and it does a good job with that but on the other hand it severely hurts replayability and while Nazi Germany is a perfect rematch of the century for the Soviets that doesn't mean that the EU is a bad opponent for the Soviets or far-right people either. The system is also riddled with contradictions. Communist LDPR can fight communist Europe, but the literal USSR can only fight the Nazis. Reformist socdem LDPR can fight commies, fascist LDPR can too, neither can fight the EU, but a reformist LDPR can. And soon we'll have fash United Russia being able to fight the EU, but not the commies, you have to be fash LDPR for that. See how it just collapses in on itself after a bit of scrutiny?

tl;dr just treat it like China and everywhere else and don't tie things to the specific Russian route.
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>>2184764
Nta but my issue is the total victory required in the 2EW, I want to play as a techno-Nazi Germany with and everlasting Eastern front war going on against a techno-soviet union. Mass drone swarms and fortifications, the general plan ost larp is a bit much for me. I think an eternal war or truce ending would be cool. Also Germany developing nukes would be cool.
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>>2184780
Having Russia be theocratic, fascist or monarchist would be great match-ups for technazi Germany and would definitely give you that eternal war. Sadly, you have to fight against the CPRF and RNG pitted you against a reformist on the SocLib spectrum have fun.
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>>2184764
>treat it like China
China had to deal with trying not to fall apart, putting together an alliance, and fixing it's economy, while Japan goes around Asia trying to get as many countries as it can in PDTO.
Europe has only the second problem, along with being pissed as shit at the party that defeated them, without any care for what they turned into, and Russia has none of them.
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>>2184833
But... Europe does fall apart with countries like France and Britain having civil wars. NATO disbands and they have to create a new alliance out of its ashes and on top of that in all scenarios they have to deal with economic crises and crippling inflation.
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>>2184780
How do you 'win' an eternal war? The game just goes on forever?
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>>2184725
Lafayette would still hate LDPR Russia because they’re slaughtering Europeans, russifying conquered territories, and led by Zhirinovsky who’s partially Jewish ethnically.
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>>2184856
Unless I'm reading his post wrong it sounds like you'd just have a static line like a scar across a continent. Maybe something out of the game Iron Storm where WW1 is still ongoing after half a century. Game's over, but it's implied through events and spirits that the war just keeps grinding on.
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in base HoI4 with all DLC, what are some minor countries where I can just get in local conflicts?
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>>2184855
That is why I didn't highlight the first problem, because they failed to fix it.
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>>2184881
Base HOI4 isn't very good at that. Almost everything involves playing a major or doing a dumb meme to become a major. Mods like Kaiserreich are better about this since at least there you can scratch that itch in the Balkan wars, the Central American unification and the South American wars with expansionist Argentina.

If you insist on playing a minor country in HOI4 though and don't care about having a focus tree or coded events, pick a spot on the planet that seems fun and isn't in the path of a major and just start justifying on people for fun. South America should be OK for that.
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>>2184868
But then Zhir dies, and someone - let's say, that socdem monarch - takes charge. Why would he hate Russia then, when the whole regime's changed completely?
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>>2184919
nta but it's silly to expect the grievances of an entire world war to vanish just because a new guy's in charge in country B, still reaping the bountiful rewards of the past regime. Also you're STILL going to have the pacification of the conquered lands in the war since that's mandatory so your scenario doesn't even undo the other anon's premise. Lastly Lafayette is one of the most radical people in the mod so it's an awful example, you're not winning that argument. Not that the more moderate French governments would be much better; their country was thrown into a civil war after losing 1EW (which they entirely blame Russia for) so there's plenty of grievances to go around.
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ffs it'd take at least half a week to reach page 10. This is a slow board you don't need to make new threads so soon.
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>>2184764
>EU is a bad opponent for the Soviets or far right people either
If anything, they are a better opponent than Medvedev
>Evolution of capitalism to the next stage and apotheosis of progressivism, led by a tyrant that will erase humanity itself
He can fight
>USSR, another claimant to be the next stage of evolution after capitalism
>Ancient traditions rising again
>Some tentatively democratic reformers
One of those has less impact
I am a bit iffy on mirror match, but I think europe should be able to for eu regardless of russia and pick any path after losing to EdRo
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>broke 2nd euro war by EU maxxing
maybe I should be more careful when giving myself 5000 pp...
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>>2184856
Ideally something like this >>2184876 but at that late in the game there isn't really reason to keep playing after beating the Soviets unless you are in it for a world conquest. I want the Eastern Front to be an unending https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye9J4nQrz5s and borderline catharsis tier.
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>>2185159
The console is for development, not cheating!

>>2185178
>Cross of Iron
Patrician.



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