FOUL SORCERY edition>M&B Wikihttps://antifandom.com/mountandblade/wiki/Mount_&_Blade_Wiki> BANNERLORD>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/tAvcAbpT>Custom Banner Makerhttps://bannerlord.party/banner/>Banner Code Sharinghttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MEM-0Fz0yetJ8cZgLrPpHuDU6dO33bhsFiHsiWwiCDM>Asset Extractorhttps://github.com/szszss/TpacTool>Create Custom Companionshttps://butterlord.com/wanderers> WARBAND>Warband Pastebinhttps://rentry.org/x7u7t>Noob Guide (READ This) https://imgur.com/a/FMAqV>Anon's Mods and Upstab Guide: https://pastebin.com/agwZu9Df>Thread(looted): >>2158568
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>>2178900Guys how the fuck do I get Erik’s troops and EOE armory for 1100?Please send your mod load order. I have been trying for hours to get this to work.
>>2178900Anons i have a coomer confession to make:i've been using a mix between Bandit Militias and captivity events to kindap and enslave the female bandit heroes let my men have their way with them and sell them off into prostitution, it's bugged of course because sometimes they turn into entirely different people and sometimes turn male but yknow what? I might just turn on the male prostitution option. I dont care, i just like the idea of selling bandits into slavery while they were acting so high and mighty, even if half of them look like potatoes
cursed mod
>>2178903>>2178900images for ants
>>2179076Works in my machine
>>2179030Ant spotted
Calradia needs more things of value to tradeWar sails is adding a couple items but i think there really isn't enough shit to go around that justifies an economy as it is. Like we got abstract and simplified things like "tools", "jewelry" and "hardwood" despite those things having a huge variation in uses and values and also sources. >Tools > farming tools, masonry tools, carpentry tools, smithing tools.>Jewelry > Jewelry, cutlery, sculptures, glassware, furnishings, embroidery, ancient coin>Hardwood > oakwood, ashwood, pinewood, elm, maple, firewood, bamboo, coal>Iron ore/ingot > iron ore/ingot, copper ore/ingot, lead ore/ingot, tin, also should have dyes, paints, spices, cabbage, squashes and other vegetable produce
>>2179117>1.8 MB, 2412x744???
>>2178996Coomer mods for fucking MB kek, how far does the modding scene go for these games?
>>2179140You have to zoom in to see it
>>2179144okay phonefag
>>2179141General modding goes far, it's been getting more popular again recently but Warband had a bunch of chinese mods that did shit like turn the game into Dota 2, not a flavor mod mind you, as in literally Dota 2.As for NSFW mods, afaik in Warband you had dickplomacy and other mods which also included prostitution and stuff, in Bannerlord you have mods like Hot Butter, various coomer minor faction mods, Drama Lord sort of (but its more immersive feeling), and in this case various versions of captivity events and addons.
>>2179168What's up with the bannerlord scene, why does warband somehow run circles around...what should have been like a clear case of an upgrade? Even now I notice some obsessive details about patch discrepancies, as if the community is stuck in multiple different eras, is that it?
>>2179173The devs keep breaking mods with each new patch, so no one is willing to put in the effort to keep mods up-to-date (and if they do, they're spending all their time maintaining their current mods rather than creating new ones).
I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.
>>2179173Bannerlord has quite a few overhaul projects that are great, no idea about coomershit it is boring anyway >Eagle RisingRomaboo quintessential mod, comes with new models, few new weapon types, special units, "ships", faction armory>ShokuhoJapan with early guns, arenas are smaller, mini encounters with recent battlefields where you race to pick up loot before looters get it >Old RealmsWarhammer Fantasy6 origins, empire, bretonia, asrai, eonir, vampire, mousilloneach origin can choose different careers, Mercenary, Grail Knight, Damsel, Magister, vampiric lineage, Necromancy spells in many shapesartillery, from trebuchet to fieldgunseach class/origin has separate to manage(empire used prestige to high units, bretonia relies on chivalry, etc...)>Realm of ThronesGame of Thrones shit, if that is your thing>other overhaulsthere are a few others, shot and pike mod (I forgot the name)there are also 2 Lord of the Rings mods>non overhaul Fourberie, introduces whole criminal aspect to the game and utilizes the city and bandit hideoutsRBM/Warbandlord changes the combat for the betterBannerkings introduces autistic kingdom management(how much autonomy settlement has, religion, taxes)Bannerlord modding scene is doing fine for the most part, it just takes time to sift through mods
>>2179252What about that Dynasty Warriors mod?
>>2179275
>>2178967Bumping my question sorry for being a bother
Frostpunk 2 mod>Gangs of Glasgow, but set in the dystopic failing state of New London.>Denars are no more, Heatstamps rule the economy of the city.>The failing city is filled with rioters of different factions, gangsters, and the Steward's police force and automatons.>It's your choice to join any of the existing factions or start your own to lead New Londoners to deliverance.>Protect the Generator in the name of the Steward, or take control of of it yourself.>But always, The City Must Survive.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8lZOBgJG70
>>2179173Warband has the advantage of time, its old code and the devs dont break the mods with every patch like Bannerlord. Even then Bannerlord has some pretty nice mods out there now.
What was the release date, fall 2025? Theoretically that's 30th november.But then they could just delay it.
>>2178900Maybe its because i dont interact with them much but i wish the minor factions actually had something cool to do with them other than being mercenaries. Improved minor factions does improve them with hideouts and stuff but i wish stuff like maybe fourberie could be integrated so Embers and Hidden Hands could have some stuff to do.
>>2178900War Sails when?Dickplomacy for Bonerlord when?
Does anyone know how to edit the loadout of your custom legion in Aut Caesar Aut Nihil? I didn't read the instructions and now my legions are all naked and I only realized this after hours of gameplay. This fortress in Judea was crazy by the way.
I'm probably going to remember cao cao poster until the day I die
>>2179576I think minor factions could only work if faction cultures could be subdivided further into ethnic groups, religious groups and guilds. As it is they are simply landless, perma-cucked clans that can never truly rule or take land, nobody can join them or help them to power or vice versa, but if you had them represent actual chunks of society with grassroots power or at the very least sizable influence and ways to leverage power they could be very important to the world. It would have to go hand in hand with a proper population system though, subdividing the population of a town or village into one of several classes or groups that have notables representing them, and they would have interests that would affect how a lord votes on policy or wars. Besides those, minor factions definitely need locations specifically for them. Hideouts, camps, temples, etc,
Started a new game to play the LotR overhaul but not sure what's the point. Unless you're the forces of Mordor why would you set out to take over the map. I'm in mirkwood and we're all just chilling up north
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndQKpp6tUug>oh it's just more fucking soraslop why is youtube tossing this at m->Jeremus shows up>i basedface
>>2180402He's probably going to still be posting at that point.
>>2180567I mean, you're not forced to conquer the whole map if you don't want to. Just conquer the bits you want to deal with and retire.
>>2180620>the mvsicVGH>the single siege towerlmao
>Warband>Play Sarranid horse archer>Have fun, get bored, want to play skirmish cav (light cav + javelins)>Play skirmish cav>Have fun, get bored, want to play horse archer
>>2180620its genuinely baffling how players loved the preset companions of warband and they decided to make them all el generico for the sequel
>>2180620Why is there a BRACK in this?
>>2180830I get it. In warband you could default to just grabbing a certain companion for a given role. They wanted less of that but the system they came up with isn't much different because you're just looking for certain titles.
is there a mod for Bonerlord that auto upgrades companion equipment?
>>2180518Yeah, there should also be events and mechanics related to them. Hidden Hand and Beni Zilal should be hired to perform assassinations, blackmail, fourberie shit, allying with the Embers and establishing temples in towns should net you extra loyalty and security and maybe even taxes in towns but give you negative relations with notables and eventually ( if you establish too many) lords. You should get positive relations from executing Lake Rats and since War Sails is coming up you should use their in lore activities to make profits scuttering ships, Golden Boars, Kharakuzait, Jawwal can remain as just mercs.
>>2180838Your strong, Nord woman, sir?
>>2181057Fuck off Sseth
>>2180876There was for lords and party leaders so you could send a naked companion in caravan and they would buy themselves clothes on route
>>2180861>They wanted less of thatwhy? why would they want less of that? what sort of retarded idea is this?
>>2181057I swear this bitch was never that dark
>>2181093i guess because it makes it so that there's no reason to ever invest in a bunch of the skills. but i'm not a fan of bannerlord's skill system to begin with.
>>2181120That implies we have Calradian africa along with Nasir companion.
>>2180830>its genuinely baffling how players loved the preset companions this
>>2181093They just wanted the game to be a completely different experiences for each playthrough, and that passed through making the player's gang be different each time, I guess. I agree that it was the wrong decision by a mile. Having the companions just be generic templates with less personality that disappear after each playthrough makes you less attached, not more.
I'm going to play TLD again
>>2178900What if mod but we play as settlers and injuns
For zhe lady and Bretonia!I shall honor my vows and fulfill my oathsFor the Audacity of Agilmar!just kidding, I am going to play as Robin Hood type of character
>>2181587I should try out that mod again, last time I played the only options were Empire and Vampires.
>>2181238>>2181093I'm not saying the way Bannerlord did it was good but the idea itself is the obvious logical progression, it just needs so, so much more work put into it, like a full team of writers dedicated to making companions less shit, something TW -MAY- be able to afford, but simply wont.For Bannerlord companions to be good you'd have to code in shit like flags for when you visit a specific city or location so they comment things about it if they have a certain trait, the right culture and skills, or when you meet certain NPC, or hell, when you get any quest involving them, also>companion with [skill] focus learns something while on a town and can bring up emergent quests related to it>companions with conflicting character traits will squabble and bicker with eachother at random, sometimes fighting in towns, sometimes while travelling, they can have other companions they're enemies with and won't join you or will leave if their rival is in your party>companions will train troops and sometimes make friends with a few of them, or become disliked by others>companions wil
bros, my inner simp is flaring up. we are at the Southern Empire boarders now that the Western Empire is gone but i can't bring myself to continue the run. i can't fight let alone destroy the Southern Empire...how stupid of an idea would it be to ditch Vlandia and swear fealty to my forever Empress?i only own Sargot and Charas. the stupid algorithim is giving every new fief to some Battanian fuck even though i'm the one conquering them.i didn't address this issue because i was deleting dunecoons. >>2178996based and creativepilled
>schizo chink moddev that has been spamming moddb and the workshop with insane mods for years found out about reddit>is now spam posting all his mods on therepretty funny, though all of his mods are more of a proof of concept rather than an actual playable mod.
>>2181357>can recruit the judge as a companion
>>2181967>>2181357Honestly. The person mostly likely to act as The Judge in any mod would be the player.
I officially declare that early fall is over
>>2182011i hope they don't release it anytime soon.i hope they have decided to actually fix the base game first.
>>2181678Do it.
i hope they release it anytime soon.i hope they have decided to actually let the modders fix the base game
Anyone know if there's a way to make throwing weapons more accurate in Warband? Speaking specifically of modding here, not PThrow/Horse Archery/boosting Throwing skill. There's a throwing weapon (War Dart) that is laser accurate for some reason, and I can't figure out what in the stats makes it so accurate. I've been fucking around in Morgh's, and none of the changes I've made thus far seem to make a lick of difference.So far I've tried:- changing the weapon speed- changing the shot speed- changing the mesh- changing the weapon length- changing the difficultyI am using a new weapon entry (two slots up from itm_end) for my test jav, could that be part of it?
>>2182090anon, how exactly do you fix a gaping hole other than by filling it up?>inb4 ask your mom
>>2182393i'm not sure what you're getting at desu.do you mean that bannerlord can never ever be fixed?
>>2182571No, i mean that bannerlord has gaping hole in regards to content. The only way it can be fixed is for them to stop half assing development and just throw shit in, all the missing features, scenes, mechanics, etc. Any way you slice it, fixing the game involves adding things more than changing or removing anything.
>>2182604i believe that the major issue in the game is the economy.>main income for AI is battle loot so it has no incentive to stop fighting>AI can upgrade into cav without horses so the AI can have cav without paying more>cav doesn't cost more in any way for the AI>you get a shit ton of taxes/tariffs (percentage wise) even at low loyalty as long as it's not in the red so the AI doesn't have to take care of newly conquered towns and just keep advancingeven if they added interactions with lords, scenes and features, the game will always be lacking imo.
>>2182706I mean you could also address that by adding more factors to the economy and recruitment system like making taxation affected by how much of a population is currently mobilized for warfare so the cost benefit of perma-warfare flips over after a point, and having horses actually need to eat so unless you're in a grassland steppe you can't just maintain infinite horse forever. Especially in desert, mountain or snow terrain, you'd have a reason to opt for Camels if you need to import hay or barley grain constantly to have a cavalry force.
>>2180132Figured it out, you have to talk to the unit in your party. No more naked legions.
>>2182187>>2181678while i was wondering what to do, Derthert died and i was elected king.i abdicated and chose the clan of my first character's wife way back then as the king. with Derthert's death, the vow i gave died with him, especially since the stupid system is elective monarchy.i kept the lands expecting an all out war until i can peace out but it turns out you can talk to any lord and buy peace. the cost was 249k.i married a girl from Pethros and swore allegiance to my forever Empress. she rewarded me by sieging Jalmarys and giving it to me.i sieged Lageta and recieved it too.now THIS is a good ruler.i beat a gorillion 1k armies. i'm collecting prisoners and waiting for a chance to siege Ortysia, Garnator castle, Thractorae castle and Oristocorys castle.i'm hoping by taking those fiefs, i can get the clans that hold previous Aserai lands to flip.happened with Ortysia when i was with Vlandia.i'm still wondering if i should try to steal clans for my Empress or just keep beating back armies by myself. i think i will fight armies by myself until i cut off the Aserai fiefs and see if they would flip or not first.
>feel like playing some bannerlord>haven't played in well over a year>surely war sails is out by now>tba
>>21831381.3.1 is too buggy. don't expect the dlc any time soon.
>>2178900>mfw all the persistent world memories I never recorded as a child are now gone forever
>>2179173from PARADIGM WORLDS creatorhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/paradigm-worlds/news/bannerlords-veni-vidi-but-not-vicidated but he was right
Oh.Oh no.Taleworlds, you scum.You absolute goddamn filth.Fuck you, you inbred apes. FUCK you.
>>2183713?
>>2183718he is the anon several posts up
>>2183721Yep. I was wrong in that difficulty actually does have an effect, but much less than the FUCKING DAMAGE STAT does.
>>2183724*effect on reticle size/accuracy
>>2181587>>2181597>Still waiting for the update so I can finally go full Border Prince or play a Greenskin and start krumpingAnd those lazy fucks need to introduce marriage already.
>Still waiting on the LOTR mods>Still waiting on the Late Antiquity modAll the servers for the mods are dead as fuck with the last dev updates being at the start of the year. It's so so fucking over.
your waifu is shit
>>2184185>if only you knew how bad things really are
>>2184185who is your waifu?i want to execute her.
>>2184642Alea
>>2183235>rally peasants to beat up armored shitter knight chuds with wood and work tools>steal their denars>commit banditry above 1k limit by quasi-RDM killing>steal even MORE denars>just attack random people talking shit for denars>drnars make the world go round>bandit class to lockpick into castle chest for LODS E MONE $€¥£I've tried to roleplay before but I was abused by the above way too many times.The alternative is getting a few buddies to peasantmaxx for a while and squat on a castle beating up everyone on the server.
>>2184185Anon, Nord women fuck Werewolves.
>>2183999Once shit stabilizes I am sure they'll come out. I'm not sure what you can do with late antiquity though given they did this weird ass quasi late antiquity but also 1000 AD.It's a bit of a shame Calradia Rising is shifting to just our world. I'd like more modders to do that OC autism - Calradia Rising and they could come up with some fun anachronisms like still having Assyria or Kangz Egypt at the same time as Calradia and whatever the Carthaginians are called.
I played bannerlord in beta and also around the time of the proper release.Did it ever get good? It's been around 3 years. Can someone summarise changes since release? When I played it, it seemed like a poor copy of warband with better graphics. Something about the core gameplay loop was "off" and it seemed impossible to really take off the way you could in warband once you had half a dozen followers all with trainer ability to shit out elite units in a week.
>>2184968it's not much different. there is a 1.3.1 beta for the version that will release with war sails (2 separate maps btw) they bumped up fief income so a single town can handle its garrison and 4 player parties.but there are still no interactions with lords.they added 2 perks that allow you to discard weapons and armour for troops EXP that make things a bit better for training raw recruits but the AI cheats extra EXP. the beta also added alliances at long last but it's very buggy.don't buy war sails.modding bannerlord heavily makes it a good game but there are no mods that add proper interactions with lords.
>>2184858you have dyslexy, also wrong game
>>2183713So there's no accuracy stat for throwing weapons, it's just inversely tied to the amount of damage it does?I guess that's an easy way to make sure they are reasonably balanced though it is also a little bit completely fucking retarded.
>>2184886>It's a bit of a shame Calradia Rising is shifting to just our world. I'd like more modders to do that OC autism - Calradia Rising and they could come up with some fun anachronisms like still having Assyria or Kangz Egypt at the same time as Calradia and whatever the Carthaginians are called.Don't you mean Eagle rising? Last i saw they were assigning real life culture equivalents to in-lore ones like Dryatics = Dacians and such. If they're going for Europe at a specific point of time that sucks cause then its just Burning Empires but with less strong vibes.
>>2185117they are planning to do that indeedunfortunately one of the things I noticed with these overhaul mods with custom maps they all have their own shaders for maps and battles, if you remove them those shaders don't revert back to original statein my case I have spent hours trying to figure why the fuck was I crashing after removing shokuho, turns out there are two folders for shadersone in the game folder itself the other in %programdata% (reinstalling the game ignores this folder)
the absolute state of southern empiresome inbred greta thunberg on the throne, 2 mercenary clans as vassals
>>2185045That's what I hope it was - a means to make charging or going up a ladder against eg Huscarls not immediate suicide. They still could have tied accuracy to the other, more rational stats (weight, shot speed, weapon length, etc), but I expecting them to tweak two numbers instead of just one is an unreasonable ask.
WHERE IS SAR SAILSWHERE IS STABLE 1.3.1
anyone tried this? https://www.moddb.com/mods/1866-western-remastered
>>2185484Why don't you?
>>2185484sir gabby :DDD
>>2185164sounds like the only solution would be to rip out the files and then verify integrity via steam, i don't know how this dumb goddamn engine works.Also it's genuinely a shame nobody's interested in building onto the lore of the base game because Taleworlds isn't gonna do it either.
I have two questions coming back to this game after 3 years. What's a good mod that improves everything but doesnt completely change the game?Is there any good musket mods? Not one that makes it a napoleonic game, just introduces muskets.
>>2185550Bannerlord, that is.
ACOK or aWoIaF?
>>2185550https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/2742Can't vouch for quality, I last played a version of this years ago
>>2185550>What's a good mod that improves everything but doesnt completely change the game?everything comes with a downside or jank, I don't there is a good all-in-one mod out there>Combathttps://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/3961orhttps://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/791as to which one is better, I don't know I only played RBM (it nerfs ranged combat(also shields) but makes melee more interesting also harder)>Thieving System, Assassination, Banditry, Spiteful clans https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/2969>I want to micromanage more shit on the maphttps://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/3826>I joined a faction, my flag looks like shithttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2875642325>I want to see nobles/heroes in advancehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2956986632>I hate 0.00 XP gain bullshithttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883675274>Why the fuck the achievements are disabled from mods, you're not Bethesdahttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2880190747
>>2177973I was thinking what such a group could be to threaten Aserai (Even if that'd just shift the new kangz to be the corner-campers). But unless you gave them something wild like elephants I feel like lots of light archers and shit would just be mulched.>>2185117Yeah I am 90% sure I saw that they are shifting to Europe and doing that. On the other hand 1257AD was such a great Warband mod so an ancient one would be nice especially if we can get fun smaller states like Pergamon and Pontus.
Will Vlandia suffer under Nord raids?
>>2185697Part of the appeal of M&B is that it feels like a real alternate history. Factions are certainly similar to real life kingdoms and empires, but the land itself is somehow half way between all of Europe and just Anatolia. Throwing in barely disguised real life empires just doesn't feel right.
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>>2185596>>2185584thank you guys
>>2185596>>2185550RealisticBattleMod is a mod I'd say 'changes everything' If you use any kind of mod adding new armor/gear it will need compatibility patch to work with it. Warbandlord is just far much more compatible and can be uninstalled without it bricking your save.
>>2185795>Can't have dark red and black without modsSo many little shitty things add up.
>Mod in my mom as a starting companion>Set her combat stats to 250 each so she can carry my scrub ass through our bandit phase.>Start doing tournys>mfw she keeps kicking my ass in the final roundAt least I still get the reward.
>>2186023Very wholesome, you're a nice son.>>2185707Yeah I wish there'd be more creativity. As someone who often mods with less mainstream kind of factions I'd fucking kill to be able to just throw my hands and go>Plate clad knights and Ancient Egypt because I said so And just having some fluff to contextualize it and have it make sense. Since us autists who can recognize something being off by a few centuries are small potatoes to everyone else just finding mashups fun.
Bannerlord Factions. Which would you say are the specializations of each one, and if it were needed, which would you say would need for certain troop types to be restriected to lower troop tiers (Battania having their cavalry limited to T4 due to being less important than their other units).
put the mad dog down for good
>>2186244Based
>>2186244gods i hate Battanians.. my grandfather hated em too, even before they put his eyes out.
>>2182187reminder that the unedited version of that pic is hilariously retarded
any thoughts on 457 AD?
>>2186640Terrible year all around>>2186050I'd like TWI to expand the world precidely to have stuff fron all over the world like that. Not-China and not-Japan easter egg items, like the secret Katana in Warband are so fun, imagine a full suit of Chinese lamellar armor appear in Khuzait shops.Also Calradian African stuff like throwing swords, clubs and some shit like Zulu style shields would be really fun too.
>>2186640Pretty good mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/9028now we just need lords to have more traits
>>2186901lords already run different party compositions. i need a mod that makes upgrading into cav require horses again for the AI.
>>2186901I'm sorry but lord fielding different troop types merely because of their personality traits its dumb AF because it doesn't meaningfully affect gameplay and it just dilutes a fraction's identity.
>>2187129>and it just dilutes a fraction's identity.not if you make every member of a faction an over the top caricature or a mustache twirling villain
I am posting Harald Hardrada, until we get a release date on War Sails DLC.
>>2187467but why
Question for real og's since I only joined around warband.Was original M&B as barebones to (you) as was bannerlord up until warband's release or did the novelty of the game cover all that?
>>2187523It was more bare bones but at the time we expected less and the novelty did a lot of carrying.The issue with bannerlord is that a lot of the bits that matter are a sidegrade or a downgrade so we end up with a game that self sabotages what it could be.
>>2187523I played around the prerelease period and I'd say it was more novel for me in a very subjective sense. Objectively, the game had barely any features compared to Bannerlord. You just had vaegirs and swadians duking it out, and all you could really do is do some quests for the lords. There was no sieges and no fiefdoms. There was just towns you could visit and quests you could do for the various lords.What muddies the waters for anyone who actually played back then is mods. While the game itself was incredibly bare bones, the game had a truly vibrant mod scene already at the prerelease period. Owning and managing fiefs was modded in a long time before it was added to the actual game. There was a test castle and test sieges in the game, so those mechanics were implemented a long while before they actually saw use in native.
1.3.2 JUST RELEASEDHYYYYYYYYYYPEhttps://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/beta-and-silent-hotfix-patch-notes.456809/page-2#post-9923319
>>2187829Of course just as I settled with the few mods that work on 1.3.1
>>2187829>beta branchzero Rhageas given
>>2187523It was such a novel experience of cavalry warfare as a little babbu I didn't need anything but blasting rock music and running around on horseback.As much as in many ways games have declined since then (some much worse than others), in other ways it has gotten much better. There's really just no denying to me that warband was better than M&B, and Bannerlord is better than Warband by and large. It's simply that the improvements are not commiserate with the amount of time passed.If M&B2 had released in 2015 or 2016 it'd have been fantastic (warband was 2010). It coming out in 2021 or so, and then taking 5 more years to get any meaningful content, just makes you go "Where's the beef?"
>>2187848it says they increased defense score calculation so armies will defend more!and they changed the target selection so it will attack border settlements more!HYPE! >>2187836F
THEY’VE WRONGED US
>>2187977nani the fuckwhere 2handed axe?
>>2187992Axes nordicPlease understand
>>2187977>>2188015The complete and ultimate cucking of Sturgia continues. What will be the next step on the humilliation ritual?
>>2188051Removing Sturgia off map, twice as more land for Asserai
>>2188015dunno man, when I think of Ykangs I associate them with their swords and their obsession with hammerDane Axe is kind of playing second fiddle there
>>2187829>Stealth missions now give roguery experience.Oh thank fuck....but where's War Sails?
>captain shuffling still present when joining battle>any bug reported on this is closed with ‘working as intended by design’
>>2188063Soon™>>2188061If anything Nords should be all about spears but if we're talking realistic every faction should be spamming spears. If they're making Sturgians the mace-focused faction them they migh as well go fuck it and make them fantasy barbarians with flails and wacky Conan the Barbarian weapons.
why are they like this???
>meanwhile Sturgia in digital companiondeebly problemadig
>>2188076kek
going to try out that ASS CREED mod tomorrowhttps://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/8856hopefully works with fourberie
>>2188063>but where's War Sails?i'm hoping that the backlash made drove the devs into fixing the base game.
>>2188078What the hell is the digital companion anyway. Never touched that tab.
>>2188352It's essentially an artbook with concept art, a media player for the game's soundtrack and an interactive map of Calradia with some basic info on each faction.It's kinda cool, but nothing extraordinary about it.The best thing about it is that it also adds a unique audiobook detailing the travels of an Imperial scholar across the whole of Calradia as he catalogues the people and culture he meets, all while serving as a messenger for Istiana. The voice acting is good and I like that it adds extra lore on certain places and people that appear in the game, and it comes with illustrations.
>>2188076I swear the game is hardcoded to kill exactly one (1) of your units per battle, regardless of the Surgery skill of the party.
>>2188381does it have lore about sargot location?
>>2188434The closest thing he gets is Pravend.
>>2187977>Wake up>Find out Aserai and Sturgian Linebreakers now carry retarder 2h macesIm going fucking insane anon
>>2188381Where do i get it
>>2188712>>2187977>>2187992why do you guys hate maces?they can go through enemies just like axes and theoretically deal with heavier armor better.
>>2188715I think it's that maces don't really follow sturgia's aesthetic. And besides vlandia was already the mace faction.
>>2188721legionaries also carry maces
>>2188721Vlandians are the boring medieval knigga faction, their 2H should all be bills, voulges and halberds.
>>2188715>>2188721>>2187977They also gave Aserai Guards and Palace Guards 2-H Maces. The difference of course is that it doesn't make sense with Sturgia's Varangian aethetic.
>>2188713The Deluxe edition of Bannerlord, or:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2240110/Mount__Blade_II_Bannerlord_Digital_Companion/
>>2188715Mainly my problem is the factions they gave them to, on one hand Aserai have a mix between axes and mace which is cool i guess, Sturgians ONLY have the maces, they should also get bardiches to fit the slavic varangian type aesthetic, game is already putting 14th century armor in so it doesnt matter.If anything the Khuzaits and Vlandians should be the ones to have an emphasis on two handed maces.
>>2188799>game is already putting 14th century armor inwhich one is that?
>>2188801ntacouple of vlandian helmets are close to something 14th century knight would wearthe vlandian shoulderpads also look fairly out of place but the major culprit is probably the brigandine over hauberk in a sense Vlandia is really ahead of it's time>hammer and anvil, pike and (crossbow) shot
>>2188799>If anything the Khuzaits and Vlandians should be the ones to have an emphasis on two handed maces.come to think of it, do those actually exist? i know the Goedendag was a thing but i can't name any other example of two-handed weapons that would count as a mace(no sides) and not a hammer(one or two hitting sides) of some kind.
>>2188819huh, apparently yes but actually no, there's just a polearm head version of everything out there.
WE KISLEV NOW
>>2188810I really hate the way those little steel squares look on the neck guard. Looks like a modern sheet of metal someone cut at a metal shop for a biker costume.
what's the consensus on Viking mods for Warband?any of the mods like Brytenwalda are better than the Viking Conquest?
>>2188721>>2188784>>2188799>MUH AESTHETICS!Imagine wanting a worse weapon, because you think it looks better in your imaginative cosplay as tough viking.If that was the goal, they would be all carrying short swords first and foremost>>2188819>do those actually existYou mean globally or just withn Europe?Globally - yeah, one of the most common thingsEurope - barely present
>>2188888>worse weaponI dunno about that one, weapon that handles like a pregnant cow is not going to help the A.I, also no knockdown effect Battania got a new Falx variant as well, still two handed, more damage but less speed
>>2188901>>2188799>No knockdown effectThat's sad, luved using the Sarranid Mace in Warband multiplayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mH8DLbZIXMthey added swimming apparently?
>>2188922Actually a really cool feature, definitely made for War Sails but it would make bridge battles entertaining.
>>2188888>>2188901that reminds mewhat the fuck does "linebreaker" even mean now?axe broke shields and it made sense, mace is not going to break shit
>>2188927>Mehmet my son you must choose>Will you be Viking at Stamford Bridge and get stab in balls?>Or will you be Viking at Stamford Bridge but you are the one who stab enemy in balls?
>using dickplomacy>started playing one of my old saves>noticed my character in my towns garrison >didnt think much of it>entered the castle>turned around>my clone is standing at the dooranyone encountered this before? and yes, i can have lesbian sex with myself
>>2188888>Imagine wanting a worse weapon, because you think it looks better in your imaginative cosplay as tough viking.>If that was the goal, they would be all carrying short swords first and foremostThat just means their Axes weren't good enough then, silly.
Just tested new Line breakers vs legion. About 10 matches commanding line breakers and 10 legion. Amazed that now line breakers can actually win sometimes as opposed to previous tests where they lost almost always.As legionIf legionnaires are defending then they lose - 2h mace wins reach and legion must break formation to hit. Else if you're attacking as legion you're golden - you don't need a lot of space to swing 1h weapons so bros can gang up on sturgians. Throwing axes are annoying so probably best to rush.As sturgiaAttacking is your only option. If you defend you will get ganged up upon.Fastest way is to force enemy to shield wall by throwing axes. Once they are defending, attack before they throw pilum. If they try to counter they usually lose a few men.
>>2189086now try the same with batannia's falxmengenuinely depressing how dogshit the linebreakers are in comparsion
>>2188988Faggot.
>>2189176dilate
>>2189176Fucking your own clone is just masturbation
>>2189117Oh I am well aware, just happy to see LB's finally not sucking as much anymore since they would lose no matter what before.
>>2183076>i'm collecting prisoners and waiting for a chance to siege Ortysia, Garnator castle, Thractorae castle and Oristocorys castle.i took those but the clans holding Aserai territory refused to flip then retarded lords agreed to peace with Vlandia once i took the eastern part of Aserai lands.then all the bordering factions declared war on us including Vlandia and we're getting our ass handed us.i had to stoop so low to pick the the -50% prisoner escape chance perks and have over 80 Vlandian lords i carry around in my party AND WE'RE STILL GETTING FUCKED.we've been pushed to Onira, Poros, Zeonica and Jalmarys and lords refuse to make peace with anyone. we're the highest faction in power (30,000) vs Vlandian (28,000). i've been beating back Vlandian armies at Lageta for a while now and they don't seem to stop. they send 2k armies all the time.i believe i have to snatch clans and/or drain lords' influence to get some peace and focus on one front.but now with 1.3.2, idk how things will go.
>>2188137well the "mod" is in very early stages it seemscouple of thingsshort quest lugging your "palaic fruit" piece around, which concludes in Husn Falqif your clan is higher than rank 2 you get few pennies for your trouble and nothing happens, if it is lower you get access to "Bureau" where you can train units into these ass creed larpers, personal trainer that trains your skill (provided you sit in a city) and your ass creed larp gearHusn Falq itself is remade to resemble masyaf with fortress up the hill, there is also new arena and prisonin short, not much here wait year or two
>>2189449here is the unique troop tree, rank 2 and onward units have these "concealed blades"
>>2189456they are not doing so hot in melee
>>2188922Is there a skill tied to it because I doubt that many people would know how to swim in the middle ages. Hell, naval servicemen throughout both world wars didn't know how to swim for the most part.
>>2189484How are you supposed to use them normally? I never get any Beni Zilal troops in normal bl i think
i drained their influence by calling a vote for peace repeatedly.got peace at 50:50 vote with Rhagaea voting against peace.a Battanian clan with Tubilis, Garontor and Usanc castles which i convinced to join us and got voted to get Quayz flipped back to Vlandia.i took Usanc castle from them and it was granted to me.i'll take Garontor and push into Aserai territory.i need to annex the western Aserai territories before wiping khuzaits. i already own eastern Aserai territories.
>>2189536peasant issue
>>2189657could have been cool if there was a personal guard you could bring to city streets and a reason for you to ever go to the city streets and a way to get attacked in the city streets
>>2178900Is Bannerlord finally good now? Did modders return to it?
>>2190518nomods are all over the fucking placeGood luck trying to find two mods running the same version
>>2189657>How are you supposed to use them normally? I never get any Beni Zilal troops in normal bl i thinkwhat, they are mod only>>2190342use Fourberie if want reason to get into city streets, if you piss off a clan they also send occasional assassin after you when you enter a city
>>2190561>What,They are mod onlyNo the Benis have some troops in BL, i think they just modded some for them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QG4rAoFfyE>hot butter support out the boxkekwhile anything is better than what Bannerlord has right now i really wish someone came up with something better than Warband courting mechanics, they're "fine" but they are also barely gameplay because learning the poems is so detached. Maybe the maidens would like it if you went out and did shit they liked, like >generous = likes it if you've done quests for peasants and villagers lately >tight fisted = likes it if you've made a lot of money on trade and taxes>cruel = likes it if you've executed any prisoner or if you have a high kill count personally>calculating = likes it if you've won battles with lopsided results, maintain high influence and brokered many deals/diplomatic alliances>valor = likes anyone who's gone into difficult battles and has been injured a lotSo your courting involves actually engaging in the gameplay and your choice of wife.marriage proposals correspond to the kind of character you're building just as much as "how many eggs does she have" and "is this good for my clan". Imagine winning a legendary battle and immediately seeing a rush of letters from all over Calradia wanting a ride.
>>2190693Any Bannerlord Lord/interacting mod needs to integrate Bannerlord's lord personality Traits and its Charisma RNG dialogue system or else it's gonna feel tacked onto.
>>2190693>Maybe the maidens would like it if you went out and did shit they liked, like primae noctis has this. you gain relations depending on their personality and what you've done.some like you doing quests while others like you having high combat skills and so on.
>>2179134You serious? With the awful inventory system you want to create even longer lists? Most of these items don't serve a purpose as is. Economy is a joke anyways - "value" is created out of nowhere. Be it troops wearing 100k equipment being upgraded for a couple of coins or cities generating money out of nowhere to buy stacks of overpriced Javelins that cost 300 to make and sell for 30k
look at this dork
>>2178900Man maybe it's because i play too much Attilla but i wish there was an option to sack/loot a settlement instead of just taking it, like come on man i dont want this shitty town, and losing it to rebellion or conquest is a stain on my reputation
>>2190847In addition, i think it would be cool if "pillage" and "devastate" had their own battle scenes. Maybe ill try to learn modding so i can put that in.
>>2188935>mace is not going to break shitExcept it is still damage-dependant, and maces do more damage on average, even without axes anti-shield stuffWelcome to TaleWorlds and their weird-ass game design.
>>2189536Nigga, if you are going off-board, you are dead, so the fact you are swimming or not isn't changing shit. It's just pure pragmatism, than whatever bullshit stuff you are imagining.Military vessel is NOT going to change or return for a single crewman.A merchant vessel is NOT going to waste time or effort to save a single crewman.And also, if you are sailor, you don't need to know how to swim, because not a single task in your job actually requires this skill for anythingAnd all of that without mentioning hypothermia. t. retired navigator and amateur sailor
>>2190847>>2190849For that to work, you would need 10x the number of cities (and thus also villages and castles) AND a completely different economic model of the game, especially the way how income for lords, clans and kingdoms is generated.It's flat-out impossible to do what you want, simply because villages as such do not generate taxable income nor can they be controlled independently (like in original M&B)
>>2190849Sea dogs, a 2000 pirate game, had town littered with devastation and corpses if it was recently conquered so I am still salty that bannerlord lacks that touch.
>>2190898>A 2D, top-down view game with basic sprites could afford to have a dozen of said sprites linger, but a 3D game using up to 2k troops per encounter can't have lingering bodies>Why is that, /vsr/?No idea.Huge mystery
>>2190922>A 2D, top-down view game with basic spritesAnon, how can you be so wrong and retarded?
>>2190928My bad, I mixed it with other pirate game from that era (which was about vikings, btw, so I really fucked up this one)So here, let me correct this:>A 3D, TPP game with 10 characters making a huge crowd could afford to have their bodies linger in perpetuity and load different textures over the same low-poly buildings, in a port city that can be circled whole in 30 secondsBetter now?
>>2190941IF (DateTime.Now - city.lastConquestTime).TotalDays <= 3 THEN SpawnDestructionDecals(); SpawnCorpses(city.culture); ReduceNPCPopulation(50);END IFwooow
>>2190968Small Turkish dev team, please understand.But more seriously:You would need 15 different texture packs PER CITY to make this work.This is a modder thing, not a dev one
>>2190890That's why I was confused, because it would server seemingly no good purpose.
>>2190995The only application of swimming I can come up with is race sailing using cabin-less yacht classes. They are very unstable and topping-over is a regular occurence, so you need to stay afloat to put your vessel back on water and continue sailing/racing.But that's pure leisure activity and low-key sporting, so nothing you would need to know as a practical skill, even back in the Age of Sail
>>2190890What about the time Marc Antony jumped overboard and swam to another ship to flee a battle?
WAR SAILS SHOWCASE TOMORROW AAAAHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHYUAk6zn2YMy grandkids saw release of bannerlordBut their grandkids will see release of war sails.
>>2178900I remember this really good mod where you played in china and started off as a farmer boy whos family get killed. You get conscripted into the army but at some point given your own small army. It was surprisingly solid and fun but I can't fucking find it anymore
everyone keeps saying how Prophecy of Pendor is hyper grindyanyone care to elaborate as to why?
>>2191321>bandits from the get go have level 30+ units>changing a single equipment piece that your custom knighthood order troops that you had to get a super special gem to be able to found by defeating a 700 man army spawn with your party engaging it forst and not any other party and winning the rng roll to capture the spawn leader then ransoming him for the gem requires several weeks
>>2191747>only way to reliably earn money and renown early game is to enter practice matches in the arena>tournaments require you to grind renown>bandits are too strong to fight early on>trading and raiding nerfed>best source of income later in the game is grinding bandits for treasure drops>has a win condition that requires you to befriend the elves>elves start as hostile and only way to increase rep with them is to bait bandits into their territory so you can help them in battle
>>2191884Also forgot to mention that everything is expensive and workshops are nerfed too
>>2191884>requires you to befriend the elvesSo I'm never going to play it then. FUCK THE KNIFE EARS (in both senses of the term)
exquisite writing
>TW caters to slavs by pretending slavs were ever a Nordic peoples>Slaves still don't buy the game>Make expansion where you turn the Slavs into a shitty cuck faction that'll get assraped off the map faster than Battania.Fuck you slavanon, where you are, you punk ass bitch.
>>2192206Sturgians are stronger in 1.3.2 tho.
>>2192206Not a slav, but I'm actually looking forward to getting some slav aesthetics more than nord ones.
SAR WAILS WHERE
>13 hours until the war sails gameplay video become available>1.3.2 is buggy as fucklmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHYUAk6zn2Y
>>2178900Is RBM *actually* required for Erik’s Troops on EoE1100?I can’t fucking stand dying from two arrows
>>2190890Naval battles aren't just high speed multi track drifting until gunpowder era. So you fall overboard you swim and try and climb back up rather than "guess I'll die". Also these happened so close to the coastline as a general rule that if you are able to dip out of your heavy shit you can try and swim your way back.
>>2192352You can disable some RBM shit in the settings.
>>2190890why are you black?
>>2190766>You serious? With the awful inventory system you want to create even longer lists? Most of these items don't serve a purpose as is. The point would be to create purpose for items, villages shouldnt have just one resource production and there should be a lot of workshops sucking up trade items to create added value instead of demand being random as hell. Like construction tools and materials would spike in demand from projects and town upgrades, repairs after sieges, etc. High class shit like fine furniture, art and jewelry should add a small, steady prosperity rating when a town has it in its "inventory". But mostly having a lot more variety in items means a lot more wealth to trade for other shit without destabilizing an economy from buying everything at once, more things that are consumed at different rates so shortages and surpluses don't hit all at once, and more liquidity for markets without just giving everone more denars or economy-busting levels of surplus. Besides for immersion purposes there's no way people are throwing fucking oak wood on a furnace to make coal.>Economy is a joke anyways - "value" is created out of nowhere. Be it troops wearing 100k equipment being upgraded for a couple of coins or cities generating money out of nowhere to buy stacks of overpriced Javelins that cost 300 to make and sell for 30kThe implication i always took is that equipment is second hand bought and paid out on loans. If you wanted to fix that you could have upgrades not be instant and instead take several ingame days and not paid upfront but with a bonus added onto their wages over time.
For a troop tree mod, would you consider giving a second 'Noble' T6 unit to each faction?If so, which should it be, considering each of the factions specializations and overall identity?
>>2192747There are enough troop trees imho. Everyone's got something now as opposed to hard specialization of warband.
>>2192751I guess my beef with Bannerlord's troop specialization for factions is that there's 7 factions and 4 of them have Melee cavalry as their Elite unit, With only one Archer, One Horse Archer and (with the Nords) one melee infantry unit.It makes sense for cavalry to be the Elite unit of factions, since it reflects the contemporary reality of the cultures they represent, but I think it would be fitting if at lease some of those had some variety to their units.
>>2192329we are finally going home. thank you talesworlds. allah bless Türkiye.
>>2192747there is enough units but If I had to pick>VlandiaElite crossbowman with polearmVlandia's main selling point was always maintaining cavalry supremacy, unit that can threaten at long and short distances would work>Empire2 handed axe heavy armored unit, something resembling the varangians, only 2 handed axe, somewhat poorer athletics but good 2 handed skill>SturgiaFoot archer with shield, well balanced stat to double as both archer and effective foot troop, same theme as Druzhinnik cavalry>BatanniaCrossbowman with a 2handed sword, no particular reason just wanted batannia to have Xbows>AseraiFoot Javelin thrower, 3x javelins and one one handed sword, very high athletics, mediocre combat stats, resembling their theme of outmaneuvering opponents>Khuzaitheavily armored one handed sword and shield, think iron warriors of from china, sometimes come with a polearm, no secondary weapons, poor athletics, high armorkhuzait foot sluggers are not great, give them a leg up
>>2192765that's some kino armour
ONE HOUR AND TWENTY MINUTES UNTIL WAR SAILS GAMEPLAY VIDEO ON YOUTUBEHYYYYYYYYYPE!!!!!!!!!lmao i'm not going to buy that shit
have fun watching the gameplay video. i'm tired so i'm going to sleep.
>>2192864looking forward to itwar sails reminded me today of a legend of soldier from Hungarian history Diver Kund (Buvár Kund)allegedly a soldier in 11th century was responsible for defeat of HRE forces after their fleet sunk trying to siege Bratislava (it was part of Hungarian kingdom at the time, city was called Pozsony), by drilling holes in various Holy Roman Empire shipsmost likely made up (ship's wooden frame is fairly sturdy, and current was strong at the time, nevertheless both German and Hungarian sources mention how destruction of the fleet was abrupt, so maybe his sabotage did achieve something
>>2192864Why would you buy it, its exclusively single player content with most of items already in the game that won't even apply to MP. Hell its basically beta Sturgia we were promised and even had.
AAAAH 5 MINUTESI AM GONNA BLADE
audio is broken in a gameplay showcaseTHE ABSOLUTE STATE OF TW
now imagine fighting a gorillion battle like thatenjoy!
