what are some of the best modern 4x space games? MoO2 is probably my all time favorite but that is an older one.
I've been playing this little known gem called Stellaris. It's p good
>>2187624I've owned Stellaris for years but never given it much of a shot, I know an update came out recently - how is it? I just much prefer turn-based over real-time and real-time with pause.
>>2187621>MoO2 is probably my all time favoriteInterstellar Space: Genesis
>>2187653game seems interest but that UI is extremely ugly
>>2187650game is in a weird state cause paradox just updated it in a way that introduced thousands of bugs in an attempt to improve performance. The DLC timeline is causing them to struggle with fixing them all.
>>2187624Kinda controversial as Paradox does weird shit. >>2187868Again?! Didn't 4.0 screw up a lot of stuff already?!
>>2187621>Real TimeAvorionCossacks 3Crusader Kings 2Distant Worlds 1 and 2Haegemonia: Legions of Iron/The Solon Heritage (a favorite of mine)Kenshi (Meets all the requirements)Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion and 2StarsectorStar Wars: Empire at WarStellaris (controversial to some)X4: Foundations>Turn BasedAge of Wonders SeriesAra: History Untold (beat Civ, of all things)Conquest of Elysium 5Dominions 6Elemental ReforgedEmpire: Total WarEndless LegendEndless Space 2Galactic Civilizations 2 and 4Interstellar Space: GenesisMaster of Orion 2016 (A lot better than expected)Medieval: Total War 2Remnants of the Precursors (MoO1 reborn)Old WorldScythe (has a digital version)Stellar ReachZephon
>>2188331>Master of Orion 2016 (A lot better than expected)oh yeah? I forgot this came out. it looks like there are some recommended mods (5x, UCP), has anyone played this and can recommend it?
>>2188331not sure if this is a bot post
>>2188376I played with both of those mods and I recall that they improved the game substantially. I can't recommend sucking dick though
>>2188387it isn't. I posted that list.Can't I just organize the shit I post?
Is Sins of a Solar Empire 2 still meh and not worth it over Rebellion? The ugly UI (compared to the first) and the AI gen art is really offputting.
>>2188463Could you explain your view of Cossacks 3 as a "4x space game"?
>>2188387I think it's a retard post
>>2188376use the mods because vanilla game has a game breaking bug never fixed.
It’s not space but it’s sci-fi 4x: Dune: Spice Wars. It’s slept on by this gay board.>RTS but no APM needed. You can do some micro but it’s not super critical to battlefield success. Force projection is more important than engagement tactics by a mile.>Multiple win conditions: military, espionage, diplomacy, economic>Probably best espionage system of any 4x game, ever.>Solid graphics and music>Well-balanced factions each with 100% unique units and massively different abilities, playstylesMy suspicion as to why this isn’t more popular than it is: people who thought this would be Dune 3: Battle for Arrakis got hard filtered. This isn’t Sandy StarCraft; it’s a legit 4x. Also, while very intuitive with a polished and well-thought out UI, it certainly isn’t a “light” game. If you’re not willing to invest the time to come to grips with all of its interconnected systems, you’ll bounce off of it. However, if you do, you’ll be well rewarded with a high quality strategic experience that is second to none.
>>2196093It's so good, it's also one of the recent games where it feels like even on standard difficulty, the AI is actually playing to win without needing to resort to perfect map knowledge or better base economy. I have been eliminated by assassination a few times, simply because in any other game I wouldn't expect the AI to actually be able to handle the system and forgot about it until it was too late.
>>2196093Seconding this, very fun and just the right level of complexity. Kind of like SoaSE in that it's shorter than conventional 4x games and you can finish a game in an afternoon or two. My only criticisms would be sticking too much to the movies design wise and that the most fun faction imo is locked behind DLC.
>>2196718Which faction is it (that is your favorite)? I’ve only ever played Harkonnen. Love those fuckers to death.
>>2197124Vernius, they're pretty much all about espionage and exploiting CHOAM and kinda play like an inverse Fremen.
>>2196093Personally I avoided it because it looked like they'd just taken Northgard and applied a coat of Dune paint.
>>2187621I liked Endless Space 2
>>2197653It's easy to think that but they layered a bunch of different systems together in a really nice way. It almost feels like it has offworld trading company dna in it between the landsmeet, choam stock, and economic sabotage.
>>2200320I was playing on normal as Harkonnen and the Atradies AI used thumpers on my spice fields, which fucked my econ.
>>2188331yah I'm gonna pick up elemental, probably way more stable than fallen. Also throw on space empires IV there. Looks like shit, but it plays fine.
>>2188331stellaris deserves mixed reviews at this point. souring me on pdox the longer I watch them screw around with a released game.For bonus points I'm mentioning 2D JRPG total war game lost technology, but yah you posted all the big ones not just space.
>>2202983Well the most basic question would be is Stellaris worth playing without the DLC?
>>2202986I ditched stellaris around utopia, came back at synthetic dawn and quit again.No it's not worth it without the dlcs, and it's slightly less not worth it with the dlcs. Whatever the game could have been was stripped out long ago in favor of being a minimal effort dlc farm. This is especially so ever since distant worlds 2 got fixed up and got its dlcs.