>choose muslim Seljuk>begome zorroastrian>recreate the Persian Empire (i'm turkish)>can't join the Immortals for some reason (so no cool quest) >begome zorroastrian christ, aka 'Saoshyant' (no Holy Fury's reformation / God-king update. Paradox wtf?!)>nothing happens (all this madness and incest for nothing), just "+5 mazdan opinion">dies because sad, LITERALLY NOTHING HAPPENS, the zorroastrian yisus dies and NOTHING HAPPENS>mfw i felt for another nothingburger despite religions being heavy in CRUSADER kings 2>the high priest declares GREAT holy war for Egypt>can choose beneficiary, doesn't matters, Egypt belongs to the one that was chose by the high priest (WTF?!)>le hecking rebellion starts in Egypt during the crusade (zorroasade?)>win, only gets the non-rebelled part of Egypt, the rest will belong to Abyssinia once the rebellion dies>meanwhile trying to revive Zunism (\[T]/ ZVN INVICTVS \[T]/), secret sects work like shit>mfw Zunism's revival would be another waste of time because my entire family and besties are bunch of degenerate incestuous retardsAt this point I'm all for converting to Chuddhism (Chuddha was right all along) and start genociding zorroastrians. (I would like to begome Tengrist, but unreformed pagans are a pain in the ass when you play them. Not even Taoists can demand conversion. Paradox WTF?!)Because the best part is now the cuckholic pope wants a cucksade against me, and cuckholics have more man-power than zorroastrians despite they're are in constant civil wars and are poor.
Also, before all the greentext, while trying to rebuilt zorroastrianism, its secret cult got bugged (what a surprise) and the already zorroastrian vassals were mad at me for some unknown reason.
And despite being a """reformed pagan""" religion, the "demand conversion" still doesn't work sometimes for, again, unknown reasons.
Also, why you can't help your bros aganst foreign enemies? Why? They are your vassals, yet you can't do pretty much anything interesting alongside them.
And somehow usurpers also appear with no connection to your dynasty or the throne, moreover CELIBATES, and somehow they have no problem unleashing a civil war at the worst moment of the empire they want to become emperors of.One of the main reasons I hate the AI (that shares your dynasty, country, religion) of this game it's because it has 0 urge to preserve your dynasty, empire or religion, which is the main goal of the game.No matter how in danger your dynasty is, your relatives will rather go extinct that ally you or become your vassals in a single strong empire.
>>2200328>>choose muslim Seljuk>>begome zorroastrianstopped reading right there
>>2200375Why?What would you do instead?
>>2200328You sound new to the game. Everyone deals with getting cucked by rebellions in the war target sometimes, and Catholics are the only people who get holy fury crusades. just build up some money, buy some mercenaries, and then truce break abyssinia until you have all the parts of egypt you want. trucebreaking across religion group boundaries doesn't matter unless you really care about prestige for some reason, and you can declare wars with mercs raised, which is generally the best way to do a bunch of small wars in quick succession in ck2. if you only use the mercs and not your levies it isn't even as expensive as you might assume. (you can use the buttons in the military tab to only dismiss your levies if you need to)
>>2200437Got it, I forgot to disable the coalitions, so I'm dying of boredom until the threat is low.Should I become Khurmazta or Buddhist? Current Zoroastrianism feels pretty boring and because it didn't get updated with the Holy Fury DLC (Paradox being useless af as always), I can't be my own religious head.What is wrong with Paradox not updating retroactively the previous versions of the game? It's very bugged.Also, it's annoying and retarded af that I have to intervene directly in a oeasant revolt when it happens in a vassal's lands, it should not concern me nor being able the peasant to declare independence from me.
>>2200375Why?
>>2200328>nothingburger despite religions being heavy in CRUSADER kings 2Yeah 'crusader' kings 2.So Christians and Muslims. And kinda Vikings too.You chose a religion which was largely dead before game start, what did you expect?
>>2200328>Zoroastrian>One of the best artifacts in game which increase morale damage>A busted bloodline with +30% Religious Damage when you become Saoshyant>Also other busted bloodlines that attarcts great warrior like the Karling bloodline>The ability to do Great Holy War like Jihad through decision>Being in the area to get Alexander's bloodline>Having all the silk road and chinese influence>Always stuff to do and people to rival from Indians, Greeks, Latins and Muslims as well as Mongol Hordes coming to you and China that can become expensionist>Always a hard early game so the rise the power isnt boringThey are fun, you just dont know how to play the game really. Only Jews are really unfun to play unless you go Merchant Republic or be an Indian Jain vegan in Sri Lanka.Iirc, there are even scripted events for the last Zoro rulers in 936.
>>2200395nta but the many flavors of iranians available would fit that better imo
>>2200328Bump
>>2200626>I can't be my own religious head.how does that make it boring lmao?>noooo I can't heckin blob the entire map for free noooooo
>>2207463I didn't start in the early dates, but in the 1081 one, perhaps that's why the game feels so boring.>picrelIf only Pradox had added those armors in game, I swear each new day I find another reason to hate this game.>>2231366Because I want to be the zorroastrian Henry VIII, what is the point of reviving a religion if you can't be its High Priest?
>>2239107>I didn't start in the early dates, but in the 1081 one, perhaps that's why the game feels so boring.No, the problem is that you started as and formed without changing your culture from Turkish to Persian. You get a lot more flavour and decisions here, its like if you want to form the Roman Empire as anything other than an Italian or Greek Christian/Helenic, it doesnt work as well as these.All the stuff I mentioned can be done in earlier or later starts, you just werent lucky when it came to the rebellion stuff. Zoros are fun to play, you suck at it. In what universe where you get a vassalized religious head, OP bloodlines and enemies to keep you busy isnt fun? Doesnt it occur to you to have multiple sons and let them be martial inclined while giving them some wepaons so they can be your warriors and you just crush anything with that +90% damage against religion?
>>2207463>Iirc, there are even scripted events for the last Zoro rulers in 936.Yes, it's the Zyiarid, though he isn't Zoroastrian at the start but converts through a decision that gives him his own bloodline and claims on all of the kingdom of Persia, and the other Persian bloodline holders are your vassals
>>2239107>what is the point of reviving a religion if you can't be its High Priest?The history? The culture? The incredibly OP bloodline and unique mechanics?Having tradeoffs is good for variety. Being the temporal head is cool, but so is being forced to interact with a high priesthood. It's a different experience, not an inferior experience.Also literally just play as the Yazidi if you want that experience in the persia region. There's literally already a religion which gives you exactly what you want, and you even get to keep the extremely strong islamic government type to boot
>>2207463The fuck is this, why does he look byzantine as fuck?
>>2240752>why does he look byzantine as fuck?One of the Romans long standing tradition is to steal what works from other cultures and use it for their own. They stole mail armour from Celts in the Alpine, and the gladius from Hispanic Celts fighting style. Later on, they incorporated heavy cavalry after being beaten by heavy cavalry from the Eastern world.Pic rel is a pushtigban, an elite military unit of the Sasanian period, which acted as the bodyguard of the shah. They were equiped and trained as cataphracts, so the similarities to Roman/Byzantine armor is likely coming from here.
>>2239134>>2240746I have Turkish culture instead of Persian because as Turkish I can raid, which helps a lot by no going bankrupt. I wanted to become Persian but for some retarded reason, Paradox decided some cultures can't raid despite historically all people, no matter their cultures, have done raiding.
>>2243421>which helps a lot by no going bankruptYou literally start with control of all the key silk roads trade routes, how can you run out of money?>Paradox decided some cultures can't raidWhile I agree, the issue is more a performence and the fact that if you allow that. Well it would be a nightmare to deal with.You can always set that all culture can raid through the in game rules btw.
>>2243421stop fucking metafagging and you'll enjoy the game more.It's good that different cultures have tradeoffs and different experiences of the game
>>2200344They abandoned the game man, what are you doing there?
>>2200344You don't understand that mechanic, I think. If you hover over "No", it will tell you why she refuses to convert. Usually you just need high opinion, but sometimes characters are "true belivers" (always applies to the Jews spawned from the event) and those will never convert. Most character interactions in CK2 have popups like the one I just mentioned.
>>2200328Anon, you should try the Lux Invicta mod if you haven't already. You get to not only btfo abrahamics, but also hellenistics and gnostics in the equivalent of a late antiquity battle royale
>>2254349Sassanids start crazy strong, despite tiny empire. It's pretty fun start, but I think the decision to rebuilt Persepolis is bugged
>>2254352Yeah, iirc in my playthrough the surrounding zoro duchies easily agreed to be vassals so after reclaiming all de jure land in Persia I dropped it.
>>2254349Did they make significant progress in updating it? Last time I tried it it was broken in all kind of ways >someone with duelist trait show up in your court and start murdering everyone Also it's too fucking easy anyway, the ai never build anything and you outscale them in 10 years
>>2254349>Not playing Zoroastrian Persia in WTWSMS which is actually set in antiquity and isn't weird balkanized schizo shit
>>2243421Raiding is only for broke tribalfags and is pointless to do once you actually have a proper economy. Isfahan and Baghdad are two of the best counties in the game, if you control them and are still broke idk what to tell you
>>2200328>mfw Zunism's revival would be another waste of time because my entire family and besties are bunch of degenerate incestuous retardsWait till you find out that Zunism's unique reformation doctrine lets you do divine marriages
>>2200328Honestly I closed my CK2 game to reply to this post and you're spitting facts man. -Le incest religion mechanics are a joke. They actually did update it post-Holy Fury by giving it a Saoshyant bloodline, but that's it. -The way multiple, overlapping wars interact can be the absolute pinnacle of war gameplay -- but it's also stilted and disjointed, strangely legalistic. >>2200357If it's not inherited, it's probably landed vassals plotting to fabricate. I don't see why him being a volcel makes him incapable of gathering a small army and attacking. It's not some random guy. He's a prince. And the AI, well, so it goes. It wasn't designed to have "preservation instinct". It just has weights on certain behaviors depending on character traits, so. DESU, I think that approach is realistic and fine, and even meta in some sense since preserving your kin/liege's realm/faith tends to be sub-optimal and just for LARPing. That being said, the AI is dogshit too.As for alliances, one thing to consider is that you usually have the ability to join their wars even if you aren't allies, and they could offer to join your wars too. If your justification is that it makes sense because you need to protect them, you can already do that. >>2200344Did you get the bug where your gods are sometimes replaced with garbage like ODIN_THOR_FREYA_etc.? If you don't select the right reforms, you get one of the most obnoxious localization glitches in the game. >>2243421This is very based. You have the heart of a real Crusader King, my friend. I used to be like you and just maintain raiding cultures. Berber, Norman, Magyar -- they're great. Unfortunately, it gets dull being the same 5 things. I recommend just allowing all cultures to raid. If you feel that it's a little broken, you can always choose not to raid. It also lets the AI raid, which is nice and even realistic.
>>2271984You should have your retinue set to raid at all times and use them as the vanguard for your standing army in most wars. It's not enough just to siege holdings down. You should look them first and get a second stab at taking prisoners.
>>2206738Paganism is by far the only interesting religion in CK2
>>2272171There's a reason everybody in ck2 mp games is always either pagan, muslim, or nomad
>>2200328>>mfw i felt for another nothingburgerI mean you played CK2. Nothingburger is the whole gameplay experience.What? You thought all those cool stories people write are actual gameplay and not the larp they did in their heads?
