MoO1 vs 2 vs apparently we don't talk about 3 vs Conquer the Stars where apparently mods make it OK. Which Master of Orion do you prefer? I've only ever played 2 but love it dearly, minus some of the micromanagement with planets that tends to happen
>>2200496RoTP, which is just a better MoO1. MoO2 has too many nested screens.
>>2201672good game and very distilled 4x but god damn I do not like how it looks
>>2200496As a child and teenager I thought MOO2 was the apexAs I got older I realised how much god-damn clicking is required. The dread of seeing a list of 100 buildings appear when a new planet is colonized. MOO1 is much more elegant with its sliders and achieves much the same outcome.
>>2200496I pretty grew up on 2 so that's a personal preference. Never really liked how you could stack a gorillion+1 small shitty boats and end realities in 1 either.
>>2200496Honestly I don't even remember MOO1 anymore,MOO2 was my goto for ever and I always stalled out from the micromanaging.The best tribute I found to date is this little indie game>Interstellar Space: Genesis
>>2201672>which is just a better MoO1questionable plus its damn ugly
>>2200496Played both MOO1 and 2 for the first time as an adult so no rose-tinted glasses for me. 1 is better than 2. More polished, more elegant. 2 becomes micromanagement hellMaster of Magic is better than bothAnd Age of Wonders 1 is better than Master of Magic
>>2200496I only played 2 and I loved it, I really liked the tech research system and how creativity affects it, and also miniaturisation is amazing and I’m surprised Stellaris doesn’t have something similar, I liked to just focus on phasors and jam them in ships and blast my way
>>2200496im quite tired of playing MOO2 since i realised the easiest way to win on impossible was population growth + charisma and then wait for the interspace council to vote, and then i just win because i have the most votes with the highest population!i didn't even have to beat orion or the demonic antarians. i hardly even have any spaceships when i win thru this method.
>>2201819>Never really liked how you could stack a gorillion+1 small shitty boats and end realities in 1 either.that is the more elegant solution compared to herding 10 + battleships to take down the orion guardian.
>>2209325ok so just...don't use that method
>>2209417i like winning on bullshit difficulty settings. to give the cheating computers the finger.
>>2202844>its damn uglyascuse me?who you carr ugry?we gonna invade a yor shitty homeworrd
>>2209325Try domination victory. But then all you have to do is rush every player and use mind control to quickly take over planets
space empires > moo (poo)
>>2210677I was amazed with SE4. Except the AI can't play for shit. Game feels more like a sandbox because they're not a challenge at all to you.
>>2209583A reminder that someone got commissioned to draw that smallpox survivor troon, the client okay'd it and paid for it.
>>2215953>A reminder that someone got commissioned to draw that smallpox survivor troon, the client okay'd it and paid for it.
>>2215953>smallpox survivor>survivorPfft. I'm a common cold survivor.
>>2200496take the master of magic pill?
i highly recommend not trying the recent remake. wouldnt mind if they put some of the new races in a version of the old game tho
>>2217200Never played MoM either way but I've read ridiculous things about the remake devs' incompetence. See pic related.
>>2217200there that dunno how to name it? paid mod? rebalance? fan expansion?Caster of magic and its pretty good>>2217222yeah, its awful >>2217200>>2217222there is MoM lite, Master of Luna, it had demo but it disappeared on me
>>2217222>>2217200AFAIK the remake was basically another AOW clone. devs totally missed the point.
>>2209787>then all you have to do is rush every player and use mind control to quickly take over planetsi did that in my first game. omniscient plus the psychic picks are OP for early game and undefended planets in lategame. but depends on randomish tech trees and whether the computers bothers to trade for missile bases and such. that however still takes a lot more effort growing your population.
>>2220518>Caster of magic and its pretty goodyou can literally download it for free unless you really wanna give GOG and modder some coffee money. i don't like mods that mess with he basic mechanics though.
>>2225503> a lot more effort THAN growing your population.
>>2225503I usually metagame with a pre-warp start, creative, telepathic, repulsive, and some other picks to balance out the racial points.
What was so bad about MOO3? It came out when I was a junior in high school and I hadn't played the earlier ones. I can't say I put hundreds of hours into it (saved that for Hearts of Iron), but at this point it was like 20 years ago and I remember it getting panned.
>>2200496>apparently we don't talk about 3It was actually the first MoO i played because i somehow missed the oldschool ones.>pretty cool ship design system>massive space battles. A bit ugly but still cool in their own way>cool animated characters in the diplomacy menuHowever>The economy is overly complicated to the point of being completely nonsensical and not mattering to the game anyway>The AI is completely braindead
>>2225813I liked the silicon-based faction that dropped crystals to communicate
>>2225779its ugly imo. and they automated the fug out of the game while making the computer player dumb , so it's too easy to "click end turn to win".
>>2201893>The best tribute I found to date is this little indie game>>Interstellar Space: GenesisNot gonna pay $30 but I'll keep an eye on it, thanks.
>>2201817>MOO1 is much more elegant with its sliders and achieves much the same outcome.This. I got into MoO1 around my highschool/uni years in 2010s having Civilization as a background, and liked it very much. MOO2 filters me hard with all the build queues tedium. And I strongly disliked the leaders, they ruin the game for me. It just ruins the feel of ruling an interstellar empire when a random schmuck appears and provides you with half of your total income.
>>2257456>strongly disliked the leaders, they ruin the game for me. It just ruins the feel of ruling an interstellar empire when a random schmuck appears and provides you with half of your total income.i like having "heroes" in strat games, but SOME colony leaders are just overpowered compared to the ship leaders . ship leaders are mid at best and easily killed in massive battles. too unbalanced.it's not like in MOM, where the battles are limited to 9 units per side, and magic mechanics and RNG make it so that the heroes can be both OP/awesome AND still be easily killed given the right conditions.
>>2225490never actually got around to MoM, how does it deviate? Besides you know, not structurally being a literal 1:1 aow clone
>>2220518>Caster of magic and its pretty goodAwful mod
>>2258103Focus more on heroes/leaders. Units and spells became more generic. Nothing really OP or stands out.Overall feels more like a numbers game than anything magical or magic countering magic.
Nice soundtrack, though.https://youtu.be/q21g_giYUhI?si=7QgefC_DNRXSW91f
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>>2242279Pretty regularly on sale over on GOG,Cyber Monday right now $15 for the complete pack.
>>2215953the trannsa juice and woke mind slop hit us nerdslike crack/cocaine hit the niggers in the 90ies
>>2274159>mind slop hit us nerdsi dont use zoomerwords, trany psyops feds.not your nerd shield. i grew up in the 1980s.
>>2269719iDisagreed. turned off the muzak after a few hours.
>>2269719Greek harp
the clicking sounds on MoO1 are so satisfying.
>>2258115Made good with the Warlord submodhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/caster-of-magic-for-windows-warlord
>>2280825>Made good with the Warlord submodI thought MoM already had a bugmen race.
>>2282728Space Ants aren't chineses, anon.lol. the modder made them hate everyone. cmon, their perks aren't even as strong Draconians and Dracs at least like lizardmen and gnolls IIRC.>muh cultivation meme>units are weaker.meh.
>>2280825>https://www.moddb.com/mods/caster-of-magic-for-windows-warlord/images/gamplay-screenshot13#imagebox>turn all beastmen into cowmenbut why?!?
>>2288449MoM sprites are so unintelligible that I can't even see where I am supposed to see cows and where normal beastmen.>>2288430I can only guess but I think they were named after 轩辕国 'land of Xuanyuan' - a mythical country of half-men half-snakes living to the west of China. Due to their association with Nüwa, goddess of fecundity and marriage, their pop bonus may reflect that.
>>2289534>half-snakes living to the west of China.That's just East Turkey.
>>2288430>lol. the modder made them hate everyone.they also made High Men have higher Unrest. it's like the modder hates human beans.
>>2290527Damn, Turks look like THAT?
