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THE TIME IS NOW
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3450310/Europa_Universalis_V/
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no idea what im doing
how do i make money
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>>2204583
Have you tried upping your taxes on everyone you can?
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>>2204566
Can't even play it, the game just crashes in the main menu because I'm a PClet.
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I purchased the premium edition and i didn't actually get it, anyone has the same issue?
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Now that we are one hour after launch
WHAT WENT SO FUCKING WRONG?
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>>2204566
Oh no. Oh no no no no sisters
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>>2204605
betting it's riglets like me seething they can't fucking run the game
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>>2204605
Mainly the AI doing fuck all and retards who have shit PCs
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time is, indeed, now
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=148234
https://files.catbox.moe/gplhmt.torrent
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:431680985efad68eb127d5218e4958d7c3814b9c&dn=Europa%20Universalis%20V
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Kek
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>>2204610
>>2204620
Cope.
Flopopa Universlopalis is the worst game Paradox has shit out since Cities Skylines 2
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>>2204637
Easier ways to tell us you're a virgin, mate.
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Is he right?
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>>2204566
>>2204597
Turn on paper map mode and don't have retarded graphics settings and it runs smooth as butter on my 8 year old laptop
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The cursor isn't appearing for me and I can't even get past the language selection
If no one helps me with this I WILL cry
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>Verona coalition war event fires where they have to fight Milan, Venice, Florence and Ferrara
>Watch them win battle after battle, despite being outnumbered
holy kino
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>>2204605
We Victoria 3 sisters won lol
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>>2204669
The fuck kind of CPU does your laptop have?
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Heres my takeaway after spending an hour
>UI has completely diverted from EU 4 and is alien to anyone coming from the previous title
>UI/UX is god awful, misleading and does not display the information you need intuitively
>crashed 3 times before i could start a proper game, once i started the game, ran fine
>pop ups dont actually provide any information at all
>you cant really do anything, because you dont have money to do anything, most countries are already in gigadebt from gamestart and there is no way to actually make money back
So yeah, game is screaming at you for you to solve stuff, but doesn't actually give you any solutions, the tutorial looks hamfisted as well and expects you to have things that you dont actually have in the game
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>>2204697
Borrow more money and start minting
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>>2204684
13th gen i7
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>>2204704
but i don't want inflation right?
and if i tax my estates they will lose satisfaction
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Any of you nibbas got it to work on crossover on mac? If not I have a macbook pro 2019 16 inch, what settings do you recommend I turn down?
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>>2204566
Crashed twice on the main menu, immediately refunded.
Kinda funny that my laptop can run cyberpunk with no stutter but a fucking map game is too much
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Pour one out for our homie EU4. It's been a great ride.
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>>2204716
Yes but you can tank the inflation for a few years until you can sort out your situation
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>>2204755
I'm going back to modded eu4 whenever I'll get bored of eu5
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The game is too inaccessible.
People wanted EU5, not Imperator + Vic3.
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>>2204765
Good thing I don’t give a fuck what people want and it’s exactly what I want.
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playing Holland
there is nothing that stops fucking FRANCE from attacking me
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>>2204768
this
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>>2204768
Enjoy your delectable pile of horseshit then.
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>>2204765
bye manafag
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>>2204768
this
>>2204765
shut up homo
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>>2204769
Allying other big boys you dumb dumb
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>>2204775
I will. Here’s a game that might be more your speed:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.offline.strategy.europeanwar.middleage&hl=en-US

Enjoy!
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>>2204768
It suffers from all the problems Imperator did, every nation plays the same, feels the same.
AI also has zero challenge and can't handle the mechanics.
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lmao TTM got nerfed hard
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>>2204794
So literally every paradox game at launch?
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Having nested tabs upon nested tabs is kinda shit. It's not sleek design. It'd be better if they made a bazillion tabs and drop-down menus like professional software does.
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>>2204785
They don't want to ally me despite currying favors and improving.
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>>2204775
>I'm a miserable fuck: the post
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>>2204765
Filtered
>>2204768
picrel
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>>2204794
I don’t understand this criticism. It has more events, situations, and country specific things than EU4. The same criticism can be made of EU4 if you want to split hairs because every game is the same: blob, wait for AE to go down, blob again. There really is no mechanical difference between France and Russia in EU4. Is it because of mission trees? Because all missions do is railroad you to specific goals and gives ridiculous bonuses. Be creative and set your own goals if you want that.
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>>2204816
then your country is shit they don't stand to gain anything from allying with you but getting dragged into war with France, based not wanters
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>>2204600
Yeah, I got it :)
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>>2204816
See why they dont want to and fix it
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>Menus within menus within menus
Wow this sucks cock
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>>2204831
I LIKE THE WAY THIS SUCKS
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>>2204817
You certainly are
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>>2204765
I wanted a mix of CK3, Vic3 and IR and EUV is all of these things :^)
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>finally download EU5
>pick wales
>massive budget deficit
>over cultural capacity
>over diplomatic capacity
>all my estates seemingly hate me
>thirty different menus that all do different things
>haven't watched any of the pre-release footage so everything is brand new to me
>i have no idea how to fix anything

help
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how do i reduce my building expenses
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>>2204861
>not automating everything
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johan won. i kneel.
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>>2204859
Same except with Wallachia. At least I learned how to get 100 manpower just in time for Hungary to invade me with 20k soldiers.
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>>2204862
how do i automate everything
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>>2204866
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goty
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>>2204870
i automate economy and production but not goverment because it picks the cabinet to do random shit
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>>2204859
this is an indicator of actually good gaem. vic 3 i picked up instantly, while this piece of shit also gives me trouble. im afraid johan actually cooked this one.
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Nice full release Johan
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now that the dust has settled, is it a good dame?
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>>2204875
idgi, whats wrong?
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>>2204878
>1 hour after release
>dust has settled
99% of us havent even finished the tutorial
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>>2204859
you might have to automate some stuff while learning how everything works, maybe watch a basic tutorial
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>automate everything
>might as well just watch the game as an observer and have the same experience
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>>2204859
>is black prince
>doesn’t know nuffin
Figures.
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>>2204885
you automate at first and then slowly de automate shit one by one as you learn all the mechanics
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>play norway
>has silver mine but minting NEEDS gold to function properly
>cant import gold from anywhere because soon as i set up a route it gets nuked by other countried with higher trade advantage or w/e
>money goes from +5 in summer to -5 in winter because buying food

ive built 2 buildings and im about to run out of money during this winter

idk seems cooked. my market has crazy food surplus all summer but soon as provincial deficits hits in winter my entire budget is spent buying food even if stockpiles are completely full

i must be missing something
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>>2204879
i presume it's the
>OTHER_PERFORMS_great_pestilence_stop_blame_the_minorities_ACTION_SETUP
message
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was wondering where my troops went when I built regulars and found out how it works, honestly impressed that a trained army doesn't just appear out of nowhere
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What tag do I play lads?
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>>2204879
Lots of missing localization strings in the message settings, and some which are either nonsensical or extremely specific
>When we prepare for the next K'atun at half speed
What the fuck does this even mean and why is it a setting
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It's actually good, what the fuck
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>>2204902
the one solitary playable tag in papua new guinea
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>>2204899
didnt see that
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how do i disable fuckin camera rotation. every time i right click my army to go somewhere the camera spazzes out a little.
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Alright who can help me be one of the 109? Got some problems I need to expel
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>>2204910
according to what metric
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>>2204910
thinking the same here, im still sceptical because its nu paradox but seems there is some actual depth here. wonder how its goes from 16th century onwards though
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>>2204910
Against all odds, it's actually fuckin okay

crazy
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>3 days into the game
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>>2204917
expel? why not enslave them?
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>>2204875
>stop, blame the minorities
Based
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>>2204923
wow the historical accuracy is so good
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when i automate the economy the ai fucks the stability, i want it to go up
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>>2204923
free real estate
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Where is legitimacy value displayed?
Is there a breakdown of building expenses by GOOD anywhere? e.g. England starts with -11.01 from building upkeep, 2.75 of which is cathedrals. But I want to know what good takes up the most of that, not what building.
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Anyone tested the AI yet tho

It's not a good game if the AI is shit

Im running a timelapse to 1820 but its slow.
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>>2204918
Mine
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Anyone else prepare snacks for the occasion?
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any OP privileges i can give out?
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>>2204940
Do slavs really just eat raw tomatoes
The pickles and pork fat thing looks great but who wants to just eat a raw tomato?
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>>2204940
I ate one of my three daily rations of 8 oz of rice/bean/carrots
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i gonna download it and see if i can run it with my i5 6500 and my 1660 ti
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I really like how when you zoom in close on a location, you can hover over buildings and it actually says what they are
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>>2204944
European tomatoes are completely different compared to British or American ones.
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>>2204944
i'm not a slav but I am from eastern europe and I occasionally eat raw tomatoes. i prefer them in a salad with salt, oil, lemon juice, cucumber and red onion though
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>The AI is bad. It cannot handle the capacity it has been given. As a player you are unchallenged by the AI around 95% of the game because the AI will not expand very much and not take advantage of weak neighbours like a player can. The AI also rarely declares on the player, even with the entirety of the HRE in a coalition against me the AI never declared on me.
uhhhhhhhhh
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>>2204952
just one more patch bro
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>>2204949
holy shit thats gool
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>>2204923
THE GREEK VICE
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>Ctrl+W
>map stops looking like shit
Fuck terrain mode
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how do i play as a minor nation without my economy just collapsing immediately

i don't even have an army i'm just extremely poor
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>>2204951
>i prefer them in a salad
Yeah tomatoes are great in a salad. I guess I shouldn't have stressed the raw part, my point was that presumably they eat the tomato by itself which seems unpleasant.
Cut smaller than just halving it, with salt and lettuce and some other vegetables for flavor and texture yeah it's great but I don't want to eat that shit like an apple.
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>>2204963
Invite more jewish merchants
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>>2204923
I love how historically accurate this game is!
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I think I like paganmaxxing as Lithuania more than being a Christian.
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>>2204566
How is it?
I've only played stellaris and CK2 and 3, so how hard would it be for me to learn this one?
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I don't think normgroids are gonna like this game, seems quite inaccessible, a lot to learn
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How do I use the console on a non-steam version of the game?
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>>2204923
Common Eastern "Roman" L
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>>2204980
This is infinitely more complex than any of those.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one feeling stupid lol. Will take a bit of a step back and watch some videos to figure shit out. Also I kinda hate the notification spam, telling me lots of stuff is not okay but seemingly no way to fix them.

Oh, also, how do I know how much power will a state get after I grant them a right? I'll see a modifier of a 100% and yet I didn't see the state's power move.
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>>2204980
Very hard
It is a bit more similar to Stellaris
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>>2204985
normgroids already dont play paradox games
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>>2204990
Ok, in what way specifically?
>>2204992
So it's going to be another game of yelling at pops for not moving to different social strata to grab jobs that are available?
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my levies in jersey raised one single soldier
what should i name him?
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>>2205001
cow
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>>2205001
Chad of Jersey shore.
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>>2205001
nigger
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>>2204566
Being employed never felt worse
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>>2204995
It has pops yes but you would want to promote them
Also the economy is x10 more complex with loads of different goods, dynamic prices based on the market and needs, you can literally wage trade war
And many more
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Post your German Empire
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>The Hyperborean Novgorodians are on average the most literate people in Europe
Thank you Johan-sama for acknowledging the superiority of my people. I kneel.
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>>2205027
Imagine if Russia was united by Novgorod
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Mom is bringing me another plate of tendies
Got two 1L jug piss bottles under my desk
Halloween candy sitting in a bowl next to me

I'm so ready bros
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>>2205027
Is this real in history too?
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french cunts are occupying south england whilst my entire army is in aquitaine
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>no idea groups
>no EU4-style missions
Did Johan forget the best parts of EU4?
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I miss the selecting an army marching sound.
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helpful
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>>2205027
fucking moscovite pieces of shit
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I like to think that with each Paradox release, thousands of normies are baited into buying a game they won't enjoy or care about it just because they saw some funny YouTube video about it
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>>2205042
>>2205043
awful opinions. both of you. that sound was earrape
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>>2205022
So it's closer to Distant worlds 2 than stellaris then.
How's the automation? DW2 level or do I have to hand hold my traders?
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>try to grab a menu in the corner
>map moves in that direction
HOW DO I MAKE IT FUCKING STOP
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meiou and taxes 5
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>>2205036
Without a shadow of doubt.
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>>2205052
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>>2205063
thanks
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>>2205049
Oh yeah kind like dw2 more, the pop mechanics is much better too, you actually have to take of different social classes
Yes you can automate most of thing
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>>2205049
Trading is completely different. Traders aren't characters you assign, you trade goods and resources from market to market
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where genocide button
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>>2205042
just what the fuck exactly did you like about missions so much?
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>>2205070
Make big army stack and send to a province you want to starve
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>>2205070
You get a cabinet member to expel a population and pretend it's genocide
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>>2205073
If Paradox game mods are anything to go by what people actually want power fantasy visual novels instead of strategy games. The mission trees of EU4 help provide that.
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>>2205075
>>2205078
I was told there was "basically" ethnic cleansing and enslavement
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>>2205078
Is there anyway to choose which specific population I want expelled? I only see an option to expel population in a province
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>mixed reviews on Steam already
It is so over Johanbros…
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>>2204952
>Throughout my games the AI has declared war on me, the player, a single time
>The AI will not declare war on players, even if they are in a substantially large coalition against them, unless they view the player as vastly inferior to them, something that will never happen for most experienced players
>Paradox should not have released this game for another year at minimum, with half baked features, an inexcusable lack of AI intelligence, poorly designed UI and horrendous optimization, as this game currently stands I cannot, in good faith, recommend it be purchased at full price, which is now $60 as apposed to previous titles launching at $40
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why is are all my vassal's armies stuck in wales doing nothing?
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Is there an issue with having negative diplo income? The state needs the money!
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>>2205090
No food
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>>2205084
>The UI is atrociously bad. From looking like a mobile game and being a pandoras box of menus upon menus. Many times I looked for what a modifier meant by hovering over it, to which the game greeted me by defining what a modifier is which was really helpful. You can get to the budget screen 6+ different ways using the top bar and the hanging banners cannot be removed. Even if you discard them they will magically reappear.

>The application of events is bad. Playing with friends I was France and a friend was the Papal States. During the Western Schism neither of us received events. All the event was was improve relations with Cardinals, who can tick up to 100% twice the quickest. There was 0 flavour.

>This game boils down to that fact a lot when you realise it. The flavour is ocean wide but as deep as a puddle. There is no feeling of difference between Spain and France, just random historical events you occasionally get where usually the historical option has good bonuses and the non historical one doesn’t. It’s bad and doesn’t make me feel like I am playing the country I picked.
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>>2205092
diplomatic spending?
that slider can be set to zero until such time when you actually need it
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>>2205092
No if you are a small nation
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>>2205082
*Chuckles softly*
Oh my poor child you've fallen for one of paradox's tricks
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>>2205036
Yes, literacy was so relatively common that we got morbillions more bich bark texts (and styluses) from Novgorod compared to other places with similar climates and materials availability.
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>>2205093
cant they just ask someone in the village for an apple
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Wide as a ocean deep as a puddle, if the dlc is good unlike ck3 and vic3 this game will be great 3 years from now
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>>2205107
but i dont want to wait 3 years
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>>2205104
They do and they also suck up all the food around them
I guess you are waging war during winter or spring?
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>>2205109
I’m not gonna be gaming anymore probably I used to be on 20 hours a week now it’s around 4
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How am I supposed to complete this mission when my burghers import right until the demand is met, and if I begin importing, they subsequently decrease their imports until the balance is 0?
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>>2205115
>a mobile game
paradox what the hell?
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i get the game isnt perfect

but give it to me straight bros, is it fun?
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>Want to move capital
>Not enough books in stockpile to move

explain this shit
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>>2205107
Meiou when?
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Can you make client states in the game? I want my zoo of culture-states, one for each fucking tribe
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>>2205001
jim bergerac, your drunkard who gets results
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>>2205123
Yes
>>2205127
Yes
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>>2205115
>entirety of China is like 20 provinces
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>Ghibellines vs Guelphs
>Emperor dies, new emperor joins the Guelphs
we are so cooked chat
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if the french ai was intelligent it would merge all their armies into one and stack wipe my main stack
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>u're blob is unstoppable even before the first boat reaches the americas
geat game
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Do new peoples appear in the campaign, like neo-cultures based on conquests?
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I’m gonna be waiting for my fitgirl
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>>2205134
They dont have enough food
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>>2204923
>We demand that you destroy the fortress we can't breach
>Ok
It's that easy
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>>2205116
>start importing obscene amounts
>usage increases until balance is 0 again
gah
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is africa fine for a beginner or do I have to play in europe
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currently at 60% war score against the french, going to keep pushing
>>2205139
What is the optimal size of army where you still have enough food?
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I spent so long staring at the menus I haven't unpaused, has anyone seen a landless country other than the ones at the start?
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Can anybody tell me what the fuck I'm looking at here? It says my pops and buildings are missing goods even after I've automated trade. I've played EU4 and HoI4 and liked them but this is way more complex
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/gsg/ forever raped by GODhan
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>>2205151
okay now i am taking peace asap because there is a 30k stack right next to my 20k stack
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Fair warning. If you go bankrupt you will spiral into enternal bankruptcy no matter what you do. You cant take loans when bankrupt and all sources of income is knee-capped so you can never leave bankruptcy, even if you push all spending into 0.
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>>2205152
Greekbros....this is the Holy Roman Empire of the Hellenic Nation
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>>2205158
leave it on automated and it will sort out eventually
your pops and buildings missing goods wont immediately implode your country
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>>2205158
Your priority in your market (the place you bought you stuffs) must be low so anyone above you already bought all the goods you need
To increase your priority is like a different matter so good luck lmao
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>ctr f "font" 0-results
nobody having trouble with these über small numbers at the top?
It's warning me not to go over 130% on ui size cause it will bring elements outside the screen
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>every turn BANKRUPT
>every turn BANKRUPT
>every turn BANKRUPT
>every turn BANKRUPT
>every turn BANKRUPT
nice game lmao
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>can't play it because I get a BSoD the moment I pick a country and the screen goes white
>no crash log because the game is crashing my whole computer
FUCK.
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>>2205177
Skill issue meatbag
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in the peace conference i take max money and reparations
any land from france that i need?
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>>2205179
Get good
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>>2205187
how the fuck did you win
i couldnt even get armies to aquitane
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>>2205187
Well depend on what you need really
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>already passed 120m mark
No going back
No refunds
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>>2205192
just take one big stack and hunt down all the smaller armies, make sure you always have max morale and spread your army on all flanks
>>2205200
i just took as much money as possible, land isnt a priority right now
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>>2205027
>arctic wastes have the same literacy levels as Papal States
Hahahahah fuck this is funny
Nvwgvrvd bvlls i kneel
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>>2205186
what skill, every screenshot I've seen has the same disproportionately small looking values on it
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This is literally Vic 3 but with a real war and supply system. And the most important, painting the map feels rewarding
I kneel Johan
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>>2205027
What's going on that handful of completely illiterate areas in north Germany?
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>>2205210
...except 0 flavor and the AI cant use any of the cool mechanics
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how do i strengthen my army before the hyw starts with france again?
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How do I build roads?
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>>2205219
Research and build professional army
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>>2205214
Wait for 1-2 years worth of DLCs if you need spice on your meal
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>>2205148
Ethiopia, Songhai, Mali, and Kilwa are the main contenders if you want to start in Africa. Mali has events for its you have to fight against though.
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>>2205229
i cant recruit anything because i have no manpower
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>wiz won
We're living in the darkest timeline.
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this game is so boring it takes forever for the time to pass
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>>2204566
I can run Vicky 3 but not this. It crashes while loading resources.
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>>2205243
Increase literacy, peasant will promote to manpower faster
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>>2205252
how the fuck do i do that you little bitch
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>>2205250
potato cpu?
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LET'S FILL IT UP
DOMINATE THE BOARD
>>2200977
>>2200977
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>do this
>do that
>git gud
no one has any definitive answers for anything, game is already mixed on steam, looks like its another fucking blunder for paracucks that cant make anything competent
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>>2205256
Bitch, start building shit that increase literacy like a university???
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No way, there's already a community flavor mod for 3D character models
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why is there so much seething about the game. it feels like people WANT it to be a flop
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>>2205265
no, i just think thats how the game runs
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>>2205269
goooood boooooyyy
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WHAT ARE YOU AUTOMATING, ANONS??
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>>2205279
its fucking not fucking fuck finished you fucking fucker fuck
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>>2205279
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/first-impressions-thread.1866732/page-3

so much nitpicking
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>>2205289
parliament, cabinet, laws, markets, trading, goods, production
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>>2205289
Everything
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>>2205279
when people are disappointed they tend to express it
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if you automate anything in this game you might as well get a refund and watch a streamer, it's the same thing.
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>>2205296
maybe not laws and cabinet if you want something specific, like stronger army
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>>2205302
The tutorial told me to automate trade and taxes, though
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10 years in and the AI is already doing shitty things
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>>2204660
>Slow
I'm letting it go in observer mode on a 5800x3d, runs pretty good actually, thought it would be much slower looking at the statet requirements. It's like 6 seconds for a month.
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>>2205291
>I need my quick mana button for the rush of dopamine!!!
Holy fucking christ this fag needs the rope asap
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>still have to wait a fucking month tick to actually see the results of embracing "you have poopenfartened" +5 stability/year modifier
Yup into the trash it goes
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>>2205312
My 3600 is coping reasonably well at the moment.
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tintosisters....
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>>2204883
i automate shit and my country bankrupts itself because the AI decides that hiring an entire cabinet when we're already running a deficit is a great idea
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>>2205311
What? Taking out Portugal? That is a good thing
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>>2205096
>There is no feeling of difference between Spain and France, just random historical events you occasionally get where usually the historical option has good bonuses and the non historical one doesn’t
So EU4?
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>>2205311
>The AI doesn't do anything!!!
>NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN PORTUGALERINO
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>>2205319
ehm sweety only english reviews matter thats what I've been told on 4chuds
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>>2205324
No it shows the historical AI setting doesnt do shit
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>>2205319
Now filter out reviews with less than 1 hours played.
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>>2205316
Why doesnt this retard go play ck3?
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What's the difference between fiefdom and vassal?
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Its over
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>>2205332
We want historical accuracy
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if you want to win against france as england just let them naval invade you and wipe out their stacks they just send tiny armies over and over
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>>2205124
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.
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>>2205316
Lmao what a moron
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steam reviews are botted
paradox forum is full of reddit faggots
Lets see what /vst/ thinks
Reply to this with your rating 0 - 10
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>>2205346
yeah?
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>>2205359
a fair 7.6/10

everything they promised is there. with all the data they are getting from release day players, the AI patch will come soon and fix alot of the small bugs. game could be great in a week even.

a month from now it'll be perfect with all the patches
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>>2205316
>If the result of their actions is only going to be apparent 30 minutes after they’ve taken the action, the players *will not* remember what they did to cause that.
Brainlets are being filtered.
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>>2205359
shite/10
AI is shite
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>>2205291
Looks like midwits trying to find their dick to take a piss
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>>2205359
5/10 there's no flavor to anything
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>>2205265
No, the game just passes time slower than CK and especially HOI, honestly, I wish CK3 was more slower paced and tha time would go by like in EU
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NOT MY HECKING BRANDENBURGERINO NOOO
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>>2205308
Bruh, econ is one the main pillars of EU, if you can be bothered to try and learn it, then that's on you
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>>2205347
And what accuracy would that be? The Ferrandine Wars?
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>>2205359
I lieked it
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>>2205311
blessed
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>>2205267
Based
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>>2205311
Moortugal should be annihilated
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am i just meant to stack all my buildings in my capital
everywhere else has fuck all control over anything
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should i curry favours with my new allies so i can call them into wars? does it work like eu4
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>>2205409
Do that AND increase control in your locations
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>>2205363
Honestly, I'm glad they got rid of mission trees as well, it just seemed like a last ditch way to circumvent a lot of the games other mechanics to desperately patch some flavor to specific nations because the game itself otherwise doesn't play very differently nation to nation. Thing is, while I enjoy the gameplay loop of EU enough, they haven't done anything yet to replace nation specific mission trees with something better, but they probably will later one.
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>>2205359
great potential and the best game since hoi3
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>>2205410
Yes
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>>2205359
7/10
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>>2205432
I want auto skip all events. Can't be bothered with them. Just want to autorun my Iceland into age of exploration, but can't do that because the game pauses upon events
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how do i turn off diplomatic spending wtf i need that 0.5 ducats
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>>2205359
7/10 now, 9/10 once the AI are unlobotomized
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>>2200977
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>>2205316
>too many provinces [..] when you have 200 of something it becomes indistinct [...] can you remember any[?]
Without a hint of irony, this person has not actually played grand strategy games enough.
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>>2205427
how many favours should i aim for
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Does it actually feel like EU4 but better or is it like a mix of Vicky 3 and EU4?
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>>2204566
oh wow, starting as Denmark fucking sucks, theres literally jack shit you can do to improve the economy
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>>2205316
Simulatonbros how could they mock us like this
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>>2205461
It feels more like EU4+Imperator
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>>2205454
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>>2205350
This also works in HOI4.
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johan can't design a game for shit:
there is little to do that actually affects your campaign
and there are billions of other things, that barely affect your campaign, yet require micromanagement and attention, hence they get automated
you are left with a game that somehow is even more bland than ck3 on release
impressive work
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>>2205359
nig/10
potentially 9 after years of flavour and big mods
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>>2205359
7.5/10. It's honestly the best paradox game in years
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>>2205454
I SEE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT
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Have wars improved and is military better than in EU4?
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>>2205466
>Swedish made game
>Denmark gets fucked in the ass
Are you surprised? Get fucked Mads
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>>2205461
its more like mieou and taxes
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Do i move my capital to reikjavik or hvolsvollur? planning on colonizing the new world.
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>>2205461
It's more like imperator
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Here's my strat so far:
>Pick a strong country
>Automate everything and afk for a bit while the AI micros all the minute bullshit that makes you stronger
>Once you're strong enough, fabricate claims and blob
>After you win the war, afk automate again
>???
>Profit
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I wanted a complex game and I got it. manafags Can go play something else
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>>2205488
colonize deez nutz LMAO
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>>2205495
Great. you automated playing a fucking video game and tomorrow you'll be complaining that you're bored
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>>2205454
Hit the two thousand!
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>>2205495
How to automate?
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>>2205468
>>2205492
thanks niggers
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it's actually fucking good stop complaining
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>>2205495
Good for you, now uninstall and be depressed at the next game you cheat your way through, why even bother downloading the game at all?
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>>2205505
Just streamline it. Bro give me 200k and I will make an app. We need more servers.
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>>2205495
Drew Durnil type gameplay
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ppl are sayin the AI is shit but thats good for me

nothing enraged me more than warring against an equal power AI that would just perfect micro carpet siege your shit down then merge into tiny stacks that were just strong enough to always autowin your smaller stacks and if you did make a bigger stack they would just run away until they perfectly micro into a merging just a large enough army to beat you from all the little faggot stacks running around

FUUUUUUUUUUCK off with that shit.
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>>2205515
That's not good AI either. You don't know what good AI is. Good ai should be engaging and fun, both games have shitty AI for different reasons
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>game crashes when i look at the population tab both on vulkan and dx12

Whelp, time to wait for the game to be functional
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cute transgirls are playing eu4 and you're blackpilling?
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Anyone know how play as a real chink not as Yuan foreign invaders? Or am I going to have to figure this out myself
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>the Kitaran Empire in fucking Uganda is the 13th strongest power in the game at game start because of the 200+ modifier from being an empire
great game
would recommend
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>>2205515
The AI of paradox games isn't very good but just really annoying. It will prioritize doing something to mess with you over self preservation.
HOI4 naval invasions for example are never an actual threat for a player (except for Japan when you play as China) but you still have to guard your coastline and micro so that 1 division invasions don't just snake victory points.
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>>2205537
Thank you for suggesting the first BBC tag that I'll play
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>>2205536
You may need to go to whatever chinese forum that discusses this game
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>>2205536
wait until the Red Turban Rebellion starts and then tag switch
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>>2205520
this
-devs ultimately don't know how to program an AI to properly take into account so many variables, so in this case they muzzle it to prevent it from shitting all over the floor. result: nothing interesting happens
-if they make it too focused on the player, then it becomes hyper-revolving around your choices. you have to sit around building tall and waiting to prevent you from triggering the massive empire doomarmy too early. result: nothing interesting happens
-they make the ai player-neutral and 'fair', where it doesn't use cheats or pay special attention to the fact that the player is in control. the ai then becomes a pushover as it cannot compete strategically with anyone who played for more than 30 hours. result: nothing interesting happens
-they give the AI cheats and allow it to see all your numbers. you then have to build weird to minmax your numbers so you don't reach the threat threshold too early. result: nothing interesting happens
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>>2205536
Play as Yuan they get a rebellion event
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Would be nice if the game didn't run like shit when I want it to look at least presentable. Pop-in, micro freezes, smudgy textures...
Nice one paradox
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>>2205539
its good enough for what it is, a spreadsheet autism sim city game. usually winning 1 good battle will put the AI off your ass, the problem is when you're not giga OP and can't just utterly mog the AI's armies 1v1 so they'll start taking 3 year trips around your borders to siege down some useless shit just to mess wiith you.
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The UI in this is so confusing. I can't find anything I want to find like in Hoi4 and EU4. Everything is hidden behind like 5 different menus and is so convoluted.
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>decide to hyperfocus on trade in the opening years
>plague hits
>lose half your population
ah
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Mesoamerican history infodumper here, can somebody post all the metrics, values, and stats for the Mesoamerican nations in game? Like their population, development, government types, etc?

Might as well do all the ones in the Americas period , really
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How alike is this to Meiou and Taxes?
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AEIOU?
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>>2205591
john madden!
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My cpu is an Intel Core i5-6400. Is it going to be able to run this game or not?
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>Automates everything
>Leave negative review for the game being shallow
Convenience/QoL strikes again, retards optimizing the fun away
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https://boards.4chan.org/vst/thread/2200977#bottom
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>>2204963
I think it might be a bit like Stellaris in that you build the buildings and wait for the population to emerge to staff it. Laborers look a bit like clerks in that they will shit out some of the base good up to a certain amount, then after that it's barely enough extra food to cover the extra laborers.

To actually get the money, I am trying to figure that out. I think the money has to come from somewhere, unlike EU4. But it seems you can ask neighbours for money more frequently than in EU4, so it's like CK where you build up your economy and snowball. Except with all these trade goods, the market is likely to correct if every tag in a region is going for the same gap in the market, so building up an infrastructure building like "market village" which uses peasants might be better than creating something that makes the goods that get sold in other tags.

This is genuinely exciting and bewildering.
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>>2205577
You kind of get used to it, but it's definitely not good. My biggest gripe is the buttons don't really pop. Like my eyes will glaze over certain buttons because they're placed arbitrarily in a conforming color scheme on a page. Needs a rework again
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>>2205560
>>2205546
Just tried it, it takes too long to fire so I'm forced to play as Yuaniggers and make them stronger even though I HATE them. And it feels unfair to just afk and not move your armies as other countries declare war and estate rebels appear.

Maybe I'll do it once I get really bored.
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every single review of this game so far:
>I was gifted a copy and sponsored $10,000 to make this video and they called me a loyal trustworthy supporter.... BUTTTTTT they didn't give me a script so I'm going to be BRUTALLY honest in my review that the game is a 9.9999/10 if only they improved the tree textures
how long until people start calling it shit?
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>>2205316
>>2205625
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>>2205532
>Gave up on Siberia and now playing as the Ottomans

Lmao troon poser
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>>2205607
>region that would normally require 3-4 provinces to be modeled now has 40 provinces instead
>unprecedented UI clutter and bloat
>"wtf why are people automating things, the emperor is clearly meant to manually manage the bread mill of some bumfuck village"
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What's the best use of money in the pre-plague years? Hospitals honestly sound like a waste but investing into RGOs or buildings is also pretty useless when you won't have people to employ them after the plague wipes you
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>>2205639
Skill issue
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>>2205644
whatever the automation thinks is the best use of your money
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>>2204944
>>2204950
I'm Anglo and everyone and their mother eats raw tomatoes, if it's on the side of another dish. It's the same type of tomatoes as in the photo, as well.
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>map modes bar doesn't stay open
>its centred on the screen
far more irritating that I thought it would be
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playing as england i have portugal and aragon as allies
should i go for austria as well?
what are the negatives to having allies
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I'm never buying paradox games at full price ever again, this is a complete disaster.
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>>2205359
around a 4 right now
maybe it'll be worth it in a year or two
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Never played EU4 but have played Vicky 2 and HOI4 extensively. Is this any good or is EU4 better? I don't trust my friends to have developed opinions on it.
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How is the AI truthfully? Reddit says the AI is complete ass and not aggressive.
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>10% interest loans
>spirals into taking more and more loans at 10% interest
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How do I use the console on a non-steam version of the game?
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>>2205679
just don't pay lmao
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>>2205669
They will drag you into their pointless war
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>>2205675
They're very different games, eu5 is more like a Vicky 2 successor, you'll probably like it more than most eu4 players
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How do I get landed as a Daimyo?
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>>2205675
Much better than EU4 and more similar to vicky2
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>>2205678
its terrible, it doesn't have any direction in the long term.
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>>2205689
they can't force my armies to leave my lands to defend them
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>>2205675
If you have the autism for vicky 2 this might be fun for you. I've played almost every paradox game since vicky 2 and this game is a bastard flagship hybrid between imperator, vicky, and EU
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My economy is in crisis and I don't know what to do. I don't want to give out privileges so that I can tax the estates into space...
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>>2205679
Historically Accurate lol
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It's not EU5, it's Victoria 3.5, lmao. Refunding this lame garbage.
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>>2205708
Just drag the minting slider to max, it will be ok
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>>2205708
unless you're at war just turn off fort maintenance
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>get dec'd on
>oh shit i have no army and no allies
>can make defensive pact with stronger neighbour despite being at war
>huh
>can then call them to arms
>huh
>can leave the defensive alliance IO with no repercussions
>huh
>repeat for 3 nations
>julish gets btfo'd
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>>2205716
hey robbie, hows that crimea mod run?
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>>2205721
Heisenberg...
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why do i have to research taxation to not be in 24/7 DEBTT
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>>2205708
Also increase your crown power
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Torrenting rn even though I know I won't be able to run it. Johan needs his kneecaps blown off.
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>>2205708
Fuck me that UI is grim
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My stability keeps taking hits for some reason, been at -60 despite it being a positive gain for years now.
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>>2205739
Expel the jews
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ill know when i play it tomorrow but i doubt automation is good if its just doing what the AI is doing but for your country, since the AI apparently sucks ass at warring
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>2 hours in
>still have to unpause once
Bwos...
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>>2205088
>horrendous optimization
Is this a broke bitch self report?
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>>2200977
we're getting closer, this is a PARADOX board!
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>>2205724
Sorry, I don't know your favourite youtuber autists or whatever.
>>2205734
Based.
t. refunding and torrenting out of spite for victoriashit polluting my EU
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>>2205604
John Paradox please respond.
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chudbros?
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It's so fucking tedious man. I want to be fair and learn the mechanics but the UI is so poorly presented and overwhelming. Too many dropboxes, sliders, tabs, etc. What is important is buried beneath what isn't.
My biggest problem with recent Paradox games has been the ugliness.
EU4 was great because it offered depth in a simple, easy to navigate format. Yes, it's more game-y but it's a game. EU5 is a clusterfuck that tries to be a Frankenstein monster combining all of their games. I just can't see how they expand upon this without breaking the game with each update.

I haven't even managed to get to combat yet
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>>2205644
Thinking about it, the best use might actually be roads and bribing estates into accepting privilege revocation
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>>2205708
>Burgerij tax
NooOOOoOooOO!!!!!
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>>2205763
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
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KINO is now
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>Unfortunately everything I loved about EU4 appears to be minimalised or straight up removed and replaced by 30 tabs, with overwhelming amount of information that I personally do not want to deal with. Missions which gave nations flavour and made them fun and unique to play were replaced by a market sim of providing food and clothes to your people and armies. Making sure my soldiers have undies to wear for war isn't my idea of fun.
Post yfw a second retard filter has hit the casual shitters.
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>>2205755
Something happened!
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>>2205700
>removes missions
>AI implodes
They should've just kept EU4 core gameplay + pops + prettier map + multicore support
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lol @ all the fucking casuals getting filtered
go back to eu babby
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>>2205472
>johan can't design a game for shit
>EU1/2/3
>HOI 1/2/3
>CK1
>Stellaris 1.0
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Anyone get to colonization yet? How is that aspect paning out?
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>>2205771
>Missions which gave nations flavour and made them fun and unique to play
That's what historical events are for...
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so i annexed durham and immediately get 100% control?
seems balanced
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>>2205785
stellaris 1.0 was basically gal civ with separate solar systems
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Does steam no longer allow you to see the aggregated review scores for each language individually or have I just forgotten how to do it? I was curious how it'd compare.

>>2204605
>comparing enligh reviews with all languages
A little sussy
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>18th century has zero flavour
I sleep. Wake me up in 3-5 years.
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>unusable UI
>book tier amount of text for 0 fucking reason whatsoever as all the mechanics seem incredibly basic just bloated for no reason to appear complex
>99999 diplomacy options no one will ever fucking use
>removed the fun EUIV mission trees
God fucking awful unfun micro managing mess. Would rather go see if ck3 is good yet
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>>2205771
I knew all the faggots who started with EU4 would have a crash out because it’s not the civ with provinces game they’re used to.
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>>2205795
Its strange that EU V doesn't let you see the breakdown by languages, I can get it on other games reviews just fine
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post yfw ck2 is still (STILL) the best paradox game in 2016+9
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>>2205810
Yeah just noticed that when I checked Vic3 to compare. My guess is it doesn't do it until the game has been out for a certain amount of time or has a minimum number of reviews.
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oh so they didn't even test uncivs because without research you don't get a diplo slider, so ur default spending assloads of money, but you also have no researched way to get income

automatic debt spiral i guess
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>Ottomemes converted to orthodoxy in my game
Believable worlds T. Johan
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>>2205815
>uncivs are nerfed
Good.
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>>2205741
Right ok but how do I sort my stability problem in EU5?
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>filter out all the paid shills
>filter out all the filtered retards
You get 81% positive
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>>2205815
average nighole finances
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>>2204794
>playing a japanese daimyo plays the same as a european power plays the same as a random mesoamerican tribe
What paradox games doesn't have every nation play the same by that metric? Does something really need a mission tree telling you "conquer these free claims for +20% economy" to 'plays differently' from another mission tree telling you "conquer these free claims for +20% military"?
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>>2205827
>play time 2 to 10
people who found the game shit will stop before 2 hours to refund
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>No mod that changes the name of Kiev back to it's non kamala-core name
can some butthurt russian get to it already I don't want to see that gay shit in my game.
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the text and UI is tiny, wtf
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>>2205838
You can change it
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I didn't know about the automation feature. Restarted as Scotland with everything automated
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>>2205837
I am Russian and I want it to be named exactly that because chuds praise SMO where my relative died.
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I can see them simplifying the game in the future
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>recommended trade with +5 point something
>fuck yes
>do it
>lose money
??
I'm crumbling under the weight of my economy
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>>2205842
only automate what you're not actively learning at the moment
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>>2205832
2 hours is too short a time to make a judgement on a GSG game imo.
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>one hundred years war is France sending dozens of stacks of 1.2k armies over to Britain.
Brave Johan.
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>IR release: SHIT
>ck3 release: SHIT
>vic3 release: SHIT
>eu5 release: decent
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I hate the nobility so fucking much.
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>>2205749
we can still do it
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Here's the real list:
>IR release: SHIT
>ck3 release: decent
>vic3 release: SHIT
>eu5 release: meh
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I'll see you all in Valhalla...
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>>2205856
Historically accurate. It wasn’t the kings that were the problem, usually. It was usually the nobles. Rats and vultures.
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>>2205847
some features still require input. I think it's better to just let the game play itself then gradually tinker with what I can.
If I have to spend hours pausing and micromanaging, I'm most likely going to drop the game forever by the end of the week. Need some pace or I get 0 satisfaction
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>>2205865
Aragon Moment
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>>2205846
Yeah I don't get it either. I guess I'm not taxing hard enough? How do I increase crown power?
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my waifu
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>>2205862
I'd say ck3 is on par with eu5. Both were bland on release.
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how do you stop niggas from starving?
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>>2205873
alt+f4
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>>2205873
UN Aid
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>>2205872
yeah actually this feels very CK3 like
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Could anyone tell me about the intricacies of personal unions? I was the senior partner and well on the way to centralizing this bitch untill for some reason Vladimir took the spot from me despite having a lower GP ranking and score. And if I wanna get it back I gotta get a massive jump in GP score going.
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>>2205865
>our realm is going down the shitter from poor harvests, wars and poor finances
>all this can be solved as long as the nobles and clergy pay even a little tax
>no
>Le guillotine

And then everyone clapped.
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>>2205837
This is annoying. what other PC name changes did they make?
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>>2205846
i know a face
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>>2205818
they just hate papists as much as i do and see its smarter to team up against them.
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No day 1 patch yet?
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>>2205889
I haven't checked the rest but they probably changed some other county names in Ukraine, like Chernobyl into Chornobyl and other gay shit like that.
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I don't want to feed my pops stop making me bankrupt aaahhh
I think you should have more starting money
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>>2205886
Nobles near the end of their hold on power were the worst. Once they stopped having to actively go fight in wars for their station, they became useless, fat faggots. They should have all been forced to be officers in the military by decree and lead front—no cushy nonsense.
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nigga the black death killed my king and the next king within a month
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>>2205807
They’re right to do so. This game isn’t Europa Universalis.
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>>2205872
It was but it also didn’t have nearly as many bugs or look as unfinished as EU5 does.
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>>2205871
Hmmm they really do have better model than ck3 which looks like comical cartoon with big head
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>>2204583
get a job
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what are the biggest issues 4 u?
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>>2205905
>t. Only playef Eu4
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What did they mean by this?
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How the fuck can you tell who is a co-belligerent? PLEASE HELP i want to fucking peace out already. I really like this game and I was never a UI whiner but holy shit I swear I have to look through 5 tooltips to find the most basic info.
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>>2205914
they meant • trigger_if may not be used in an unevaluated context,
we cannot determine which path to go down since we
lack a context to evaluate with, use a
custom_description or custom_tooltip instead
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>>2205863
not how it works you pagan faggot
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is there a joan of arc event?
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>>2205929
yes, she can spawn between 1428 and 1431
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>>2205863
I'll see you in Valhalla saar
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>>2205933
hot
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black death has made my population half from 3.5 m to 1.7m
nice
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>review scores slowly rising as the people actually playing the game post
Looking optimistic so far
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>>2205886
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>>2205936
Average European ruler's be like
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so which is better, AUH or EU5?
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>>2205806
You do realize you can automate most things in 5 right anon?
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Is there a way to change the default map mode? I don't want to have to constantly change from that garbo CK3/Vic3 style one.
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>>2205950
AUH without a doubt
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What should I do with unprofitable buildings??
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>>2205958
What are they producing? Are their outputs inputs somewhere else?
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>>2205958
Unbuild them
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man playing on the islands in polynesia is so fucking chill
nothing is happening, at all, i can just read shit while the time is running
fucking tribals tho are completely useless, my starting economy output is 0 (zero)
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>>2205965
Do you think you’ll catch up with the Euros at some point and start colonizing?
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>>2205794
Yeah, and it was way more fun that the trash they have now instead. Strictly speaking, they owe every player a possibility of a refund for completely changing the core gameplay. Stellaris 2.0 is literally not the game that I bought.
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>>2204820
mission trees isn't the solution
ck2/ck3-style government variations and actual mechanics to cultural institutions and more historical events and more actually interactive historical events and forced shit like that conquerors mod that ck3 ripped off is the solution
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NGL bros I am struggling. Did 2.2hours in the Castille tutorial and the information overload is insane. Gave it a real good try but the UI is just bad, there are parts that are too small and parts that are too big. Maybe I just need to give it more time but it's making me feel the same way the CK3 UI did, I hate modern UI niggers.
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>Are their outputs inputs somewhere else?
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>>2205952
>Just let AI play this frankenstein game for you
Amayzin.
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Is there a mod that fixes the AI yet? All my games it snakes and creates ugly border gore everywhere
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Are we back Johanbros?
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>>2205963
A brewery that's losing 0.6 ducats each month and a potters' guild that's losing 0.4. I don't think the outputs are used anywhere else in my country.
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>>2205971
i will start colonizing but probably wont ever catch up in this game, i have absolutely no economy at the start and my science is at the bottom
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How the fuck do i get a claim on a territory?
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>>2205905
This game is exactly the direction EU3 was heading before Paradox decided they wanted to cash in on the Civ 5 audience.
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>>2205977
ok so missions are gone, cool i guess. how will they replace this because im lost in my gameplay and dont know what path to take /:
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>>2205905
t.civ baby
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>>2205982
Did I say something confusing? A lot of buildings produce stuff that's used by other buildings.

>>2205988
>beer
>pottery
Those are pop needs. Think you can do without? Or can you make inputs cheaper? The key is Trade Capacity. Trade is what makes the ducats, not taxes.
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>>2205126
Didn't they directly work on this game?
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Can someone confirm if editing DEFAULT_AGGRESSIVENESS helps at all?
It's in Europa Universalis V/game/loading_screens/common/defines/00_defines.txt
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>Did I say something confusing?
n-no sir, I'm paying attention.
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>>2206003
t.victoria shiteater
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if only i knew how to make money
or make my allies join my wars at all
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>>2205335
unless portugal has become buddhist I think the setting is working as intended.
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So if they fix the AI not blobbing at all, is the game good?
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>>2206011
> how to make money
Be the top dog in your market and others’
Buy low sell high to other markets
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>>2205977
CK3 conquerors are dogshit. CK2 Alexander the Great events were super rare but never felt overwhelming, remained somewhat constrained and only lasted with the one ruler. CK3’s conquerors pop up ever other second, for some fuck all reason it’s defaulted to inherit upon death and are unbelievably overpowered, they make insane amounts of money, have a massively bloated army and blob everywhere. It’s so stupid seeing some random sharan Muslim state blob all the way to northern Italy. It’s so unbelievable unfun to go against and to see how it irreversibly fucks up your save. Like a lot things with CK3 unfortunately, I guess it’s why I actually have had fun with EU5, I mean it’s in a way better state now than CK3 is after nearly 5 years of updates.
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>>2206017
Paradox games hit their stride around 2.0 so wait until then.
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There doesn't seem to be any risk of coalition or negative outcome for blobbing. I have just conquered half of Ireland with unjustified demands as Scotland and don't seem to be getting punished in any way.
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>>2206023
I get it but is it a step forward from EU4 or a V3 trashfire situation?
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>>2206027
>a V3 trashfire situation
This.
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Finally, now we can play.
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>>2206026
I got a coalition forming for taking all of Granada as Castille.
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>>2206026
Territory with 0 control gives no money and will revolt eventually
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>>2206032
>three separate Vlach cultures
what were they thinking
at least they actually populate Transylvania this time around
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>>2206023
im so tired of paying paradox to beta test slop
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I tried to play this shit but I can't fucking deal with the UI, it's not even the fact that it's ugly (it is) but everything is so fucking small, even the menus. I have a normal-sized monitor and shit is unplayable
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>>2206041
Is there no UI scaling option? Alternatively play in 1080p.
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>>2206041
increase the ui scale you fucking african
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>>2206041
Just change the size in the menu
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I played 2.2 hours but hopefully some based steam bot gives me my money back, rather use the money for the EU4 dlc I don't have.
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>>2206044
>>2206045
>>2206046
Not doing that, it should just work™ out of the box
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>>2206048
>Refund piss to buy shit
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why is everyone so angry with the ui
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>>2205965
it seems like nobody around me has an army
i wonder if im not wasting time trying to develop instead of building one transport boat and conquering them all
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is there no way to release a region as my vassal or something?
my small ass hometown in Germany is its own province and i wanna play as them
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>>2206055
The UI is ugly. Same with the map. I will be getting mods for these.
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>1 male Medici left
New ones will appear through events, right?
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>>2206055
midwits feel scared because they have to learn new shit after 4000 hours of EU4 and they dont immediately grasp it in 2 hours so they say its bad
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>>2206058
abort plan
i dont have any sailors or the ability to get them
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>>2206059
Sorry, you can only play as Duke Freiderichsen von Fuggerbergstein of Saxe-Anhalt-Messe-lunberg. Have fun!
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>play as portugal
>castile hates me since day one
>eventually declares war after 10 years
>pu cb so I think fine I'll just accept
>pu is not an option in the peace deal so castile demands my land
>4 hours down the drain
FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME PARADOX
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>>2206055
It looks cheap, kinda like that mobile EU4 clone I forgot its name.
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>>2206064
Sad. Not knowing what’s going on and learning is the best part of these games.
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>mouse keeps randomly moving and zooming in
literally fucking unplayable
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>>2206048
Feels good.
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>4th noble civil war
Can't wait for the revolution to execute these fuckers
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>>2206068
fuck
we will never see groß-dülmen until the mods come in
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>>2206064
Nah, the UI is just unreadable shit with 3Dshit injected into it. EU4 UI didn't feel this fucked up after EU3.
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>>2206036
four, there's also aromanians (slightly darker blue than wallachian)
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>Dec claim throne war
>Win
>No claim throne option in the peace menu
Dafuq? Do I get the throne automatically after the peace?
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>>2206055
>>2206064
It's plain bad design with nested tooltips hidden in more nested tooltips, it's the exact same terrible UI CK3 has except it doesn't mattr in that game because it doesn't have any depth and you don't have to learn anything.
I suspect Vicky 3 is the same but I never played that dogshit.
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>>2206087
Those are in fact a distinct culture so that's fine.
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>>2206059
go to diplomacy tab
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Holy shit Johan redeemed
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>71%
STOP THE NUMBERS SOMEBODY
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>Duchy of Burgundy
>Kingdom of Burgundy
2 Burgundies?
I'm guessing the kingdom one is upper burgundy or w/e it was called
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is it good to deleted all your unrentable building right from the start?
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>>2206054
EU4 is overhated. If they simply changed dev to pop, had manpower draw from pop, added supply lines and had proper restrictions on mil access the game would be almost perfect.
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I HIRED YOU 30 YEARS AGO WHY HAVEN'T YOU EVEN STARTED AAAAAH
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>>2206099
3, Franche-Conte full name is Free County of Burgundy.
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>>2206088
nah its bugged, but you can pu the allies instead lol
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how do I lower inflation, my only RGO is silver and I just noticed that its production raised my inflation to 111.52%
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>>2206102
it's true, the way dev is handled is the single issue that ruined the game

EU 5 won purely from replacing it with pops, hell, you could go back to base EU 3 with pops and it would be superior
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is this happening to anyone else?
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>>2206103
lol same bug here
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>>2206103
Bro hired a (insert mediterranian country)
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>>2206048
another manababby filtered
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>>2206103
realistic
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This shit is pretty bad and I have the feeling it won't get better 20 hours in. Paradox games suck and everything they publish sucks too.
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>>2206055
no sovl, feels like a mobile game
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>>2206114
can you fuck off with your chinese cartoon AI shit
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EU4bros... they're coming back, right?
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>>2206119
I was filtered by the UI mate. Ever since 2012 UI design have been in the gutter world over.
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Huh, is this historically accurate that the Teutons owned this city in the middle of the HRE? It's so specific and random it might as well be.
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Whose a good Irish minor bros? All these fucking angloids totally mog me in population
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>>2206128
your leader kinda looks like me but skinnier
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>>2206092
I guess its not possible with this particular province?
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I'm having fun
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>>2206128
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Mergentheim
it was the orders hq
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>>2206135
stop that right now
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anybody else thinks they absolutely nailed the music?
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>>2206136
That seems like a logistical nightmare to traverse to from when you're crusading in the baltics
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>>2206138
yeah, its great
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>first mod is trying to turn eu5 back into eu4
KEK, eu4babys saved
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>>2206134
It's here
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so england has a subject called "wales" right
this subject does literally nothing beside put its councillor to assimilate every last welsh person into englishmen
gotta love it
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>>2206146
these fucking circles are so ugly
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what is this terrible speed 5 and ui?
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>>2206055
Everyone complains about UI when they're learning it. I think there's no huge problem with how it looks, but I find the 2 nested tabs within 3 nested tabs within 2 nested tabs design retarded. It's going to be fine when you get used to it, but getting used to that kind of UI sucks.

That is to say that people hate learning it, and they'll eventually suck it up. That happens regardless if it's good or bad. In this case, the reasonable frustration is learning where everything is. When you go for nested tabs, instead of having 20 buttons you don't know how to use, you have no idea where the 20 buttons are until you find them.
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England is so much fun guys
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>>2206152
france has like 5 x more soldiers than me
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>>2206152
how does england do against france? ive seen screenshots of france outnumbering them a lot.
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>king committed suicide
I guess I was ruling that badly?
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>>2206157
I've seen France land in England in almost every game
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>>2206146
Holy shit that's the second ugliest UI I ever saw.
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wanna live in hell?
Play Qocho
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>>2206055
The UI is not soulful. It looks cheap and quickly made.
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>>2206145
Hey I recognize that username
>clicks on profile, looks at alias's
lmao, they really are mad that EU5 isn't EU4
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What does fort maintenance even do? Can I drop this down during peace like EU4 or will I get assfucked because of how buildings are supplied in this game?
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>>2206159
in my game Holland conquered East Anglia, but the anglos are slowly taking it back
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>>2206166
you will lose prestige if you don't maintain forts but it's not that bad
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>>2206099
>Kingdom of Burgundy
VGH if only... Dietslander bro's
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>average negative review
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>>2206157
France and its vassals outnumber England by a lot, England ai struggles with this. But as a player, it's a decent challenge. Because of all the French vassals, a lot of the French army is very divided and you can defeat them one by one.
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>>2206171
>>2206159
do you have stronger units? longbowmen?
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>>2206170
toplel
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>>2206102
Even with development, the 4 is a clear and direct enjoyable, readable and understandable upgrade over the 3. While 5 is just victoriashit.
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Swedo-spaniard esl fucking shits
Can't believe I wasted bandwidth to torrent this garbage
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>>2206142
to clarify it was only an hq after the prussian holdings were lost in the 16th century, until then it was one of a smattering of holdings the order held throughout the hre, albeit the most important. in practive the hre holdings (and before they gained essentially independence the livonian order) had a lot of autonomy in handling local affairs
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>>2206102
Even making the argument for dev, it was cooked for awhile in EU, since there was very little ways of changing it prior to DLC allowing for devving.
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>>2206182
>fluff text for meme goat herder religion is slightly wrong, 0/10 game would not play
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Tuscany 1355!
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Who else cucking the nobles out of all their power bit by bit?
the peasants love me, almost 80% satisfaction because I make the barons wear chastity cages at court now
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what should i be doing with my cabinet and diplomats
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>>2206182
You should have a bigger problem with the first sentence bud
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>>2206182
Nigga EU4 still has typos lmfao
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>Already past 2am
Fuck I have to quit now.
I have to go to work tomorrow.
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How long is it supposed to take to produce art?

I commissioned something a decade ago and his progress is still 0%
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>>2206207
>2am
you have time for video games in the trenches?
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>>2206182
Put the fries in the bag
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So, portugal, castille or portugal for first game?
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>>2206083
Kek.
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>>2206215
It seems like you lean towards portugal
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>>2206215
Aragooner.
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I literally did nothing for 3 hours straight, lmao.
I just did the tutorials, stared at map modes and reading tooltips, I barely advanced five years in the game.
I need to watch a few youtube guides, all I did in game was building roads, appointing cabinets and automating trade.
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>>2206224
You're already ahead of the curve. Good job, anon
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>>2206215
i am fucking hating portugal, can't afford shit in this shithole
might as well go castile and instantly conquer portugal and use their combined wealth to actually afford a colony
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>>2204923
i had this too, but i was too busy figuring out how to get cbs
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I spent 2 hours just looking at every fucking menu, option and reading tooltips. Now I am like one decade into my Georgia run and building up Tbilisi an shieeet, because I am afraid of declaring war on the horde niggers.
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>>2206170
sirs...
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wat
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>>2206224
>>2206230
Spent 2 hours in the tutorial and the UI never got easier to read. Refunded, gonna spend the money on Anno instead.
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I can't play the game because claim throne CB just doesn't work. GG
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>Boot up
>Select dynamic game options
>Narrow my first shithole nation to anyone with a hooked cross flag (Teypana, Gyelrong, or Poonch)
>Choose the nazi plains indians because they're less gay than chinks or poos
>disable all automation
>read, read, read...
I can see why no one is posting screen shots. This game is fucking deep as hell. It's been 20 mins since I settled on the nazi plain indians shithole and I'm still just reading the opening agenda thing.
No wonder redditors hate this game
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the diplomacy map mode is fucking garbage
allow me to see who is allied with who and their vassals without having to click 50 menus you fucking monkey devs
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Are the negative reviews valid or just full of people mad thats its not like HOI4 and doesn’t run on their shitbox?
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>>2206241
I don't understand how every game post EU4 has had worse map modes.

>>2206243
I didn't leave a negative review but I couldn't stomach playing anymore and it just felt like work to me.
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>>2206157
nta but in my current run, they surprise declared on me and i still managed to peace out with like 50% war score just by winning battles
they landed small amounts like 6k stacks in england, i’d just wipe them and their navy while i have my large 50k stack in northern france
the ai is really dumb still, i’d sit on their fort with my stack and they would try to occupy an adjacent province with a small stack, and i just walk over and win battles like that repeatedly.
i only built 4 extra ships at the start of the game but my navy outnumbered theirs with levys which helped.
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How the fuck is music stored in the files. I'm searching through them but can't see shit.
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>>2206248
pretty sure it's just being generated dynamically at runtime, that's why your cpu is running so hot
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>>2206243
I might leave one because the UI needs work.
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Is there anything to do as a landless nation? I played a banker family for an hour and just improved relations with other nations so I could build banks in their lands to siphon their tax to my pockets.
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Stability really is cancer.
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Where are all the menu jingles? Some guy in my court committed suicide and it didn’t play a dramatic sound for it.
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>>2206243
Lots of shitboxes
Lots of Johan despisers (deserved)
UI/UX, AI's need for tweaking, and need for further optimization are the most valid criticisms.
I'm having a lot of fun playing it, but it's going to be rough for others
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>>2206252
playing as a banker sounds fun in mp but in singleplayer what can you possibly do besides make number go up?
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>>2206236
I fucking love that there was so much to explore in the UI. I ONLY HAVE FIVE HOURS OF SLEEP SCHEDULED AND WORK TOMORROW FUCKING HELL I WANT TO BLOB NIGGERS
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>>2205952
and do what? "enjoy" the awfully slow time tick? No reason to play this over ck3 or eu4, really fucking disappointing release
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>>2206260
>I fucking love that there was so much to explore in the UI
Different strokes. I can't describe accurately what my issues are but actually using the UI and map modes felt more difficult than any other PDX game. It just felt like a slog to navigate and get anything done.
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fucking finally
1348 i can begin collecting taxes, ie playing the game
damn tribals
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i dont even know how to embark my troops, i just click on the place i want to land now, like an eu4 noob
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>>2205165
Can't you just sell or close down your buildings?
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>>2206260
>Start with some war genius autist
Hell yeah
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>>2206215
>Fight in the thunderdome of Iberia
>Unite the peninsula in 50 years like you were the ghost of El Cid
>Wait another full century until you can colonize

Dios mio
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Rate my Maya
The control for like 90% of it is like 0 because I control it personally and I've only just had enough masonry to start building roads
My economy is also getting absolutely fucked because I'm jacked to the tits on debt and my nobility are crushingly powerful (like 170% stability to revoke their shitty privilages because I gave them too many at game start)

Good times
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>>2206269
oh wait, i cant, without silver or gold. Lmao?
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this control shit is confusing, and apparently everyone is mirgrating to my capital which is fine for now i guess.
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1st crash around 1358 after hovering over some witch event and having declared a war
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jesus fuck, the game is so fucking slow
i don't think I have the patience to ever reach the napoleonic times
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>never played a GSG before (have played 4x)
>decided EU5 would be my first
>install the game
>start working through the tutorial
>getting overwhemed with the shear amount of stuff there is and micro managing (if wanted)
>get as far as the military part 9after you select a mission)
>close game

I don't think I have the mental capacity to play one of these games.
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>>2206282
You will learn patience
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>>2205165
is it like eu4 where you get the bankruptcy debuff for 5 years? generally you’d plan to go bankrupt if you must but have to make sure that you don’t bankrupt spiral by having enough income to begin with
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>>2206278
Oh, it also fucking autosaves when you declare war so I couldn't get back the 40 fucking stability I lost when I accidentally used a no CB instead of the claim province CB I had fuck you johan you fucking hack
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>>2206285
The trick is to just ignore the tutorial and learn by fucking around.
Turn off all automation, turn off the tutorial pop ups but leave the tool tips on, and just play. Pause if you feel like something is happeneing too fast otherwise just leave it on speed one and click around.
I've learned every paradox game this way (but I do remember my first game I quit because I couldn't figure out how to declare war. Basically stop thinking of these games in terms of other games like CIV or whatever you've played. They're their own thing)
If you hate failure just turn on the option to play as other nations then as you're being conquered just switch to whoever is conquering you and keep on keeping on
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How do I get landed as a Daimyo?
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>2nd run, after losing 1st one to mega-coalition. Decide to put everything automated
>Dogshit economy, have to spend 30 years trying to stop a death spiral
>bankrupt anyways because an event made me take loans
>recover slowly, deeply negative in literally everything you can think of
>constant civil wars
>eventually re-stabilize the realm
>get another event that makes me lose money
>"estates have no money to loan"
>go briefly negative once
>instant bankruptcy despite having 0 loans
fully automated economy btw, didn't even expand was just vibing.
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>>2206285
>decided EU5 would be my first
>I don't think I have the mental capacity to play one of these games.
Nah, you've just picked the one infested with victoriashit autism. Play literally any other one but this and Victoria and you will likely love it.
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>>2206285
EU5 is definitely not the one to start with. Try any of the other ones and then consider coming back. Admittedly EU5 is like Johan trying to make a game for GSG players by ramming them all together.
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>>2206292
>If you hate failure

I actually like this to a degree. Fail a run and start over. it's why I like Rimworld and project Zomboid so much.
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>>2206297
Any recommendations? I actually own HoI4 but I really couldn't give a fuck less about WW2
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how am i supposed to defeat france in the hundred years war when they have so much manpower
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>>2206299
Then yeah just go with the flow, expect to fail at some point but if you're ok with that then just try again.
The truth is no one actually "knows" how to play this game right now. The streamtards literally tell people to automate everything. That means they don't know how that shit works. It's also possibly like V2 in that it actually doesn't even work right. We don't know yet.
If you're interested in the game then just keep clicking around until you figure out how to do something you think is cool
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This might be the deepest 4x game ever made judging by all the casuals getting filtered.
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i don’t really get why you can force buildings to do things in certain ways whenever you want, despite having low control in the province, despite stuff like changing hiring laws costing stab
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>>2206304
>4x game
nice bait
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>>2206301
Victoria 2
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>>2206301
EU4 and CK3.
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there is nothing to do in this game
you just sit doing nothing whilst the ai does all your economy
then you just raise levies in war time and click on smalller numbers with bigger numbers
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>>2206301
NTA but CK2 was my babby steps into it, and then Victoria 2.
The right one is in the setting with the mechanics you like the most.
Kings and dynasties? Crusader Kings. Industrialization and Colonialism? Victoria. EU4 - inbetween. Imperator if you're a big anitquity fan and don't mind modding it with the Invictus mod
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>>2206310
Don't click the automate button then and do your own economy, dumbass
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>>2206310
filtered
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holy fucking ScotCHADS
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>>2206310
As opposed to waiting for mana in eu4?
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>>2206310
The automation isn't even on by default, you chose to suffer
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Are No-CB wars the standard?
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>>2206315
man it must be so fucking easy to play france in the 100 years war vs AI england
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>>2206311
I really don't care about any of that lmao. It would be cool to rule the world either direct or puppet states. I also want to take a society/country from nothing and make them into an unstoppable force. Perhaps HoI4 would be more my speed since it's all war?
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>>2206315
Holy fuck what is this shit battle UI? It's even worse than the state tabs, lmaooo
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how can you fall for the bait so easily
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>roads dont increase proximity
>claim crown broken
thanks johan let's add to the list lads
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ngl it took a good 30 seconds to find where the dice rolls are shown in the battle UI
and everything is so reliant on tooltips because random ass colored bars
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>>2206328
>>roads dont increase proximity
They don't? I've been building them for proximity and control and it definitely works with control
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>>2206328
No game is perfect day one
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>click trade capacity button
>trade isn't created
Amazing system
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does grassland become farmland after a while? if you expand farm a lot there for decades
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>>2206321
well it's because I secured alliances
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default game rules might not be ideal for everyone btw, check em before you start. (1st button in top right of screen on country select)
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>>2206318
Pretty much
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Decided to play a random tiny island nation as my first playthrough. Was making some good progress until these damn indogs declared on me while I was conquering a larger neighbor and I got quickly puppeted. Next playthrough I will slaughter them all. DEATH TO INDOGS.
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>>2206336
only faggots play on non-default
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>>2206335
they’re so fucked. hows the navy difference? does england have more ships or about the same?
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>>2206336
The fuck is the point of buying it then, if you're going to play without achievements?
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>>2206032
very homophobic people in the far-east there
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>>2206344
I have thousands of hours in multiple paradox games and my only achievement is the one for marrying in CK3
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wait, why are missions not ironman anymore?
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Tuscany done, just missing a location north for full area control and integrating a vassal, it's 1359
Italy here we go
btw antagonism so far seems like a nothingburger at least annexing a bunch of tiny countries
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>>2206341
Dynamic historical events are superior to scripted historical events. Historically correct Roman Empire name is not default. Having other continents spawn the black death or do exploration is more fun too.
>>2206344
I have literally never gotten a single achievement in a single paradox game ever
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>>2206335
Jesus Christ, the Us is getting worse with every new screenshot I'm seeing.
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>can't save in the tutorial
>have to quit in the middle of it
>assumed it auto saves
>it doesn't
>have to go throught it all again

fucking brilliant
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>>2206351
*the UI
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time for bed, I will be running an observer game through the night, we'll see if the AI really does not do anything
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>>2206343
>hows the navy difference? does england have more ships or about the same?
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>>2206351
eu4 isnt that much better
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>>2206357
interesting, i was able to levy up 40 ships as england
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>>2206361
Yes, it is. And so is EU3.
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UI is genuinely horrible, I dont understand why they didn't do v2 style spreadsheets instead of forcing everything into the left window or these awful spaced out blobby messes
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Fucking Age of Renaissance lowering my naval levy capacity just so euroaches can feel like times are changing.
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>>2206368
What the fuck is a levy?
>t. Shimazu Clan
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>>2206088
>>2206237
Fun fact claim throne works to force a PU. Just not on the target, i.e. all of their allies that joined the war are fair game.
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>>2206364
that ui is not intuitive at all, you just have everything etched into your brain so it looks better than it is. Give eu5 a few hundred hours and it'll feel the same
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I am going to raise base aggressiveness to see if AI become extra aggressive and report back to you
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Can you create custom nations (similar to Ruler Designer?)
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>>2206344
I give myself gold in every pdx game I play. Even if I didn't, defaults literally turns missions off and I bet some of you fags complaining don't even realize that. Not to mention other random 'flavor' shit that some autists might not enjoy.
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>>2206377
you could in eu4, but i don’t see it here
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>>2206344
You... just play it for the fun
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>>2206380
I wonder how hard it would be to implement
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>>2206372
This is just pure distilled cope.
EU4 had a metric fuckton of issues on launch, but UI was not one of them. Switching from EU3 UI to EU4 UI was a very smooth experience. This absolute clusterfuck of a UI that EU5 has on top of its clusterfuck of victoriashit spreadsheet manager autism is making eyes bleed with how incompetently it was made.
And that's not even talking about this shitty bland brown colour that's turned into a puke stain by all the random SUDDEN patches of violet, green, blue, orange and whatnot.
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>>2206381
ahoge women are pure sex
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Should I bother with the tutorial, it drops me into a country with the expansion objective but the nearest actual completion is like a year away. Should I just start a new game and wing it? I'm so fucking lost.
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it said pirates spawned and now my economy went to shit. What do I do bros
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>>2206383
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>>2206388
ducats are just a number
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>>2206383
This. The worst you could say about the UI was that scrolling all the diplo options was ridiculous.
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feels like i’m just playing eu4 with some vic shit and ck shit added for insane amount of micromanagement
in vic i’d be staring at price levels and trades when the game ticked, how the fuck am i supposed to play eu5 when all this other stuff is going on as well?
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What is the advantage of managing your trade because my eyes just glaze over looking at that shit.
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shithole bros, how we doing?
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>>2206346
>>2206349
>>2206378
>>2206381
The argument is that if you're not getting achievements anyway, then why not just torrent it. Achivs and MP are the only reasons to have it bought, and I sure bloody hope you're not schizo enough to play MP in paradox games.
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>>2206380
>>2206382
Making your own nation as a mod was always better than the shitty nation designer anyways.
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>>2206395
i don’t even know where the fuck you are
funny flag though
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>>2206398
I've actually done it before with anons. Did a few campaigns with HOI3 back in the day
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>>2206378
>defaults literally turns missions off and I bet some of you fags complaining don't even realize that
to be fair it's hard to not notice that one when the tutorial requires it being on
kinda weird choices in general though with that one
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>>2206383
>spreadsheet manager autism
that's a feature not a bug
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Is it worth it to just spam bailiffs if you're playing a large country?
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achievements are for simpletons
even worse is using ~, that is, for any reason other than gammin on /gsg/
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>>2206405
It's a victoriashit feature that should be kept in victoriashit containment paddock. There's a reason they have different games, yet I don't see CKfags or HOIfags trying to force their RPGshit and RTSshit on anyone else. It's always the fucking victoriafags that want to force their shitty fucking spreadsheets on everyone.
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>>2206405
But that was for Victoria, not EU
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i don’t get it
i’m getting money from trade but how exactly?
it says selling [goods] in [city]
who’s selling to who?
where is this money coming from?
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>>2206414
Trade happens between market spheres.
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>UI elemnts take of half the screen
>text is way too small

>doing tutorial
>here's all this basic shit
>drop you into game
>tons of notifications (unprofitable buildings, disease, missing resources)
>doesn't tell you how to figure any of this shit out
>click the applicable thing
>some fuck huge menu with no clear indication of what to do or how to solve the problem

How is anyone new supposed to get into this shit? I'm so fucking lost
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>Kyiv's debug tag is KIE
Nice one Johan
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>stud farm
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>>2206401
It's like present day New Mexico area
I picked them for their flag.
Gyelrong (Eastern China area) and Poonch (Northern India area) have good ones as well
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>>2206417
wouldn't it be confusing with stuff like Kiel?

What the fuck has KYI as a shorthand? Kentucky International Airport or something? It probably would have been better to use KYI as the tag
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>>2206416
Leave a negative review and refund while you can.
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>finally got a run as Aragon going
>look over to the west
>Castile has been overrun by a Muslim coalition and Portugal is chomping at what's left
Somewhat disappointing, but I'll take it.
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>>2206421
>he thinks I bought the game when I've never played a GSG and didn't know if I would like it

lol
lmao even
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>>2206420
Kiev is the non-retarded name so it makes sense the debug tag is KIE
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>>2206417
That just means Kyiv was a late addition just like everything related to it, thanks to retards like Lambert who nagged the devs into propping up that tag for no reason.
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>>2206417
Top kek, classic.
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>>2206427
Probably because nobody gave a shit about the spelling before 2022 and development was well underway by that point
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>>2206427
Don't insult LambGOD like that.
Kyiv was the most advanced civilization in this time period. They were able to hold off the Tatar hordes, while r*zzians bowed down to them.
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>pirate it
>black screen
guess i gotta wait for our girl fitgirl to save me
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>>2206387
That's the best way to learn usually
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>>2206425
Based and sanepilled.
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>>2206395
i think its literally unplayable if you cannot get access to the market that exports gold or silver
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>>2206430
>They were able to hold off the Tatar hordes
Just to be gobbed up by L*thuanians some years after, lmao
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>>2206430
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just spammed a ton of building and rgos that said they had the most profit
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>>2206438
>believing falsified poolish lithuanian documents
Kyivians actually annexed lithuania, but those archives were destroyed by the poolish.
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>play ottomans for the billionth time one last time in eu4
>boot up eu5
>play ottomans
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How does maritime presence works? I set my navy to patrol my coast, but it just stays put near the capital, only projecting presence close to it.
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>>2206430
I bet that's a realistic representation of what you can read at paracuck forums, lulz.
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>>2206431
saw someone else saying that, it works for me (TENOKE). So must be some incompatibility with your machine. I'm on win10 with a ryzen 7 5700x and an rtx 3060, 32gb ram and game is on an hdd.
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>>2206434
Yet here I am, playing it.
I've already made frens with the big fish and rivaled the one guy who's similar to me in size.
I settled my resident tribesmen into peasants and now I'm building a spy network in an unsettled location next to me to see if I can annex them to try and secure some more food production and Lebensraum for my people.
I'm pretty sure if I can research taxation I'll be able to fix my deficit but even if not I think I can just declare bankruptcy and continue playing
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Ah shit france just declared on aquitane
wish me luck
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>>2206441
does automate do that too i wonder
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I've been playing for 8h
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>>2206417
LMFAO
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>>2206450
>if I can research taxation I'll be able to fix my deficit
you dont have coins in your economy to collect tax
you need to mint them with silver or gold
and unless you know someone that mines them you are fucked i think
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>>2206454
Game is like VK3 where locations change names based on the culture present.
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>>2206456
There's gold right next door bro
Trust the plan
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>>2206381
Oh great Mitama, please bless my shitty tag
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>>2206344
who gives a shit about achievements nobody's looking at your steam profile anyway
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>>2206318
use the parliament to get cbs
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>4 hours of speed 5 and it's only 1384
How tf do they expect people with jobs to play this game?
Inb4 >poorfag I'm running it on a 9800x3d

Also do I need to be a monarchy to build a standing army? Tooltip says so but there ought to be more to it. Currently playing as a theocracy planning to switch to republic
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>>2206459
yea except you need like 50 gold to build a mine
its maybe somehow possible to do for you, but definitely not for me in polynesia where there are literally 0 silver/gold sources
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>>2206426
>blackedspamming Russia demoralisation propagandist shill calling anyone else a retard
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>>2205046
>I like to think that with each Paradox release, thousands of normies are baited into buying a game they won't enjoy or care about it just because they saw some funny YouTube video about it
This is how ck3 made a fuckton of money, and yeah normies are extremely vulnerable to FOMO and deathly afraid of piracy
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>>2206395
so, what's it like, raiding each other to get pittance of coin for 150 years before the europeans arrive and bring the tech?
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>>2206464
>9800x3d
Oh, amdshitters did it again? ROFL
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>>2206430
This. So. Much. This.
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>>2206469
>blacked out of nowhere
wtf lol
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>trying to do tutorial
>obtain a casus belli
*alright cool*
>click country
>obtain casus belli
>ACKSHUALLY YOU NEED 20 OF THIS BANDANA DUDE TO DO IT
*cool how do i do that*
>?????????
>finally figure out I need to build a spy network for some fucking reason
>that'll take ???? years
*so what do I do now*
>??????????
>here's 600 pop ups, disease, no resources, no pops, etc etc
>how do I fix all this stuff
>??????????????????

wtf is this shit. How tf is anyone supposed to figure this shit out without spending 8000 crawling through tool tip within tool tip within tool tip and clicking every menu with 900 different buttons and then spending another 1200 reading another 20000 tool tips. Is this what this fucking game is? Just reading a novels worth of tool tips, clicking one button and then reading a fuck ton more?
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>>2206459
>>2206450
>>2206395
Could you do >>2205583 when you get the chance?

Interested in what the Mesoamerican art assets look like too for the UI elements and stuff too
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>>2206477
God forbid you need to learn anything ever nigger
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>play eu5
>it's a laggy piece of shit with mobile game UI
>close and uninstall
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>>2206467
Ok, but what if I just never have any money?
All I know is I'm going to lead the nazi plains indians to glory because that's what Chiftain Yiya Teypana was born to do
>>2206471
Right now it's waiting for winter to thaw and making frens and seeing if I can't blitz the tribe next to me or not. I have been learning more or less where all the buttons are. very similar to Imperator except I totally don't udnerstand trade yet. That might have something to do with what the other anon was mentioning in that I don't have anything to trade idk
>>2205583
what exactly are you asking me to do and why is it something you can't do yourself?
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Game runs much faster on Linux than Windows.. below minimum spec PCs are getting better performance than i27 20000K CPUs on winblows
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>>2206483
Honestly I'm not sure how to explain what I am asking any clearer more then I did so if you don't get it then just forget about it

>why can't you do it yourself

I don't own the game
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>>2206484
>>2206481
Oh I can chime in. I'm on Linux with a 5600G and it's about 10 days a second on speed 5. I am in America tho that might have something to do with it idk
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>>2206484
are you on vulkan or DX12?
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EU5 has lower rating than Victoria 3 and Diablo 4. Let that sink in.
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>>2206395
I'm thinking about giving up on Hawaii. I am slowly growing but my nation is obviously suffering. I've got spammed with so many negative stability events I'm near -50. I can't really get my income above around +0.25. Is it really hopeless?
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>>2206323
EU4 is the blob game
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>>2206483
tag me if you manage to make it work
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>>2206492
Shitoria 3 had a horrid rating when it first came out and it still deserves to have a red name rating.
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>>2206480
I just tore everything down that wasn't profitable, not my fucking problem. If people rebel, once I figure out how to build an army, I'll just send them in and kill the rebels.
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How long is everyone taking for a year to pass in game? Mine take like a minute
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why doesnt my fucking army move when i click it to move with transports
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>>2206493
have you managed to get coins in to your economy?
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>>2206488
dx12, vulkan was crashing at random times
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Other than developing your center of trade what ways are there to increase the market attraction of your market? Scotland is creeping into Northumbria market wise and it's annoying.
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>>2206499
roughly 2 days/s on speed 5, but then again I'm rocking an i5-660K, I'm not complaining I can run it fine
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How do I get money as an OPM, feels like everyone around me builds shit and expand even more than in EU4,
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>>2206510
Verticalize your supply chain instead of just going for the bigger number
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Is there a way to revive one of these microreligions if they are of a different group?
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>>2206502
I don't know. I gain money that I tax from the pops, but I don't think there is anything to mint with and remember some warning about not being able to mint when I first researched taxation. I built a building and my Nobility built two others, but it didn't raise my income much if at all.
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How the fuck do you get the claim the throne CB back on France after the first war? Do you just get it again randomly by event? I can't find a way to fabricate one, I can war France all I want with other CBs but I can't get the throne with them.
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>>2206509
>i5-660K
6600K*
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>>2206512
what
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>>2206288
>it also fucking autosaves
Huh? Is there a way to turn that off?
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>>2206515
>>2206515
>Do you just get it again randomly by event?
I don't know if it's random or not but I've gotten it like 3 times
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>>2206518
It only matters in ironman.
In non-ironman there are multiple autosaves afaik
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The Brahmin SIRS rose up!
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>>2206514
how did you manage to tax them? can y show your economy screen?
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>>2206523
delhi are pisslamic afghan trash, they are not real BHARAT BULLS
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what de fuck
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>>2206527
I lost about 1.5 million out of 3.5 or so million as England
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>>2206527
welcome to europe motherfucker
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>>2206525
SIR WE ARE REAL HINDU NOT PAKIDOGS
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>>2206527
enjoy
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why making a subject does not equal to making more money when it's outside control range
>>
Welcome to Europtoria Kings
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how the fuck do i beat france as england
seriously
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The advances screen is just terrible
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>>2206537
drag, zoom in, zoom out. repeat 100x fucking disaster with no coherent layout
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so I'm just supposed to believe roads were invented in 1337 and then everybody in the world simultaneously started building them at the same time?
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>>2206521
Do you have to have a truce with France, have you happened to notice? I've only not had a truce with France for like a year at a time so far, so that might be it. I've been trying to keep hammering them to keep them from getting too strong.
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guys? I am confused and bored
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>>2206524
Sliders appeared for me when I researched taxation. I checked my market and there is no metal in it. Maybe it is related to technology or something. I think Hawaii starts with the technology to work with gold and silver despite not having it. Maybe it is a glitch.
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>>2206446
similar to mine. win 10, 5600x, 3060, 16gb ram, ssd. just doesnt load anything
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>>2206540
Tribes have "parliaments"
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>>2206540
yes enjoy your paraslop with braindead AI that does nothing for 500 years
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>>2206548
10 guys sitting around a campfire is your parilament
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>>2206544
because you're a faggot
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how do i take a province out of a market and put it in another one
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>>2206504
cope mutt
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>>2206548
>>2206550
A bunch of guys doing meetings and deciding the destiny of the nation is a parliament, so that's technically true.
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>>2206550
The mechanic is supposed to represent stuff like this in those cases. The mechanic is sort of weird in general though because it mostly just gives you and easier way to get a few things done. It can also rape your stability.
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>>2206545
damn bullshit
me down south also started with the tech to mine them but there is nothing to mine

maybe coins are created from the market or something, i wouldnt know, i dont have the access to it.
overall tho you are doing better than me, my income is 0,01 from the food... something (it says im selling it but to who?).
also you should maybe decrease the tax on peasants and clergy
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Did I pirate the wrong version? Why is everyone east of Kyiv asiatic?
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As someone brand new to grand stat games I feel like starting with Crown of Castile was a mistake correct? Shit is huge and there's so much.
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>>2206561
also funny thing, i have 0 coins in my economy, and im able to increase diplo and court spending to 100%, gaining all the bonuses but not spending anything, because i have nothing to spend. This game is undercooked.
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Where do you see your war exhaustion? I can't fucking find it.
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>>2206565
>brand new to gsg
>starts with EU5
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>>2206565
there is a tutorial that suggest you what to play
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>>2206568
The flag with period stain on it in the top bar
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>>2206548
honestly thats fine, I'm okay with that level of abstraction, but the roads thing is pure boardgame and just flies in the face of every youtuber calling it a "historical sim".
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>>2206565
Your issue is starting with EU5, it's too much for some experienced gsg'ers.
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>>2206569
I wanted something fresh and new.

>>2206570
That's what was suggested
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>>2206571
thanks, that's so fucking unintuitive
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>>2206575
pick something in HRE then
or in africa, like mali or something, then you'll have fewer problems and buttons
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>>2206575
Just press play and solve problems as they arise, your country will probably run itself into the ground but you will atleast learn something for next time. Castile is probably fine for beginners because no AI will declare war if you grab a few allies and don't expand too much.
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>>2206138
>>2206143
Paradox's music department is absolutely cooking.

Pain in Salvation hits just right, and I don't even speak German.
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Guys I only care about one thing, hows bohemia in eu5? Is hussite actually playable?
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>>2206580
yes
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-flavour-6-14th-of-february-2025-bohemia.1728777/
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>>2206580
bohemia is the richest region in europe
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just beat a french army of 20k with my 10k army of anglo chads
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>>2206578
I just uninstalled it, I don't think this game is for me nor is the genre. I'll just play something else.
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MAGYAR STRONG!!
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WHY DO ALL MY ESTATES HATE ME
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Damn the UI is actually fucking terrible
Marketing is really the only thing PDX is good at
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How do you colonize neighbouring tribals in Africa? They are same culture and religion as me, but the one province I can create a Colonial Charter in has nothing to do with me.
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>>2206591
there is a council job for that
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>>2206593
Same deal. Settle the Frontier says those are not valid targets, and points me to the same region.
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>MOBILE GAME INTERFACE
>10 FPS
>$60
>AI DOESN'T WORK
>WOKE
>TRILLION DLCS
IS THIS THE WORST GAME OF ALL TIME???
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https://steamcommunity.com/app/3450310/discussions/0/652585529159917499/
if you want to have a fun time, read this slavic tribal dispute over the name of a certain k**v
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>lose the throne of Croatia, get a casus belli to reclaim it
>no way to get Croatia in the peace treaty
thanks johan
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okay so the hundred years war is impossible to win if you're england
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okay apparently there ARE some roads, it's just weird that some relatively important nations don't have a road to their capital already
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>>2206601
They should just add a lower tier of road and sprinkle them all over.
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>>2206601
>okay apparently there ARE some roads
It's like imperator wherein there's like 6 roads in existence at the start
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Is the 30 years war in the game?
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>>2206605
It'll take you 30 real years to reach that point of the game
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WW@
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>>2206600
which is very weird because the English did fairly well, all things considered (in the end I'm not sure that they could have maintained both crowns, but if Henry V had lived a little longer, who knows).
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First run, playing as a swiss canton, and holy shit, the swiss confederacy got smashed by Austria in our first war. The AI on our side was giga retarded and kept our 4k total levies split while together we could have a chance to beat the 5.5k austrian army. Luckly it was just a show superiority cb and no member lost lands.
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>>2206607
Who's giving you 70 ducats in foreign aid and for what purpose?
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Average 20-year-old Sc*ndinavian
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the ai is so retarded in wars
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>>2206613
we call these "tributes"
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>>2206615
I've noticed that age almost seems encoded in some characters' genetics.
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Didn't get to play yet but let me guess, it's Vicky 3 all over again.
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Well, this is definitely not V3 economy. If anyone was ever concerned.

But you still have to keep taxes on Nobility low, because those fucks are insufferable.

Post your guillotine memes. All my homies hate Nobility.
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>>2206621
no it's actually good and functional
honestly it has basically EU IV's features on a base level, except a lot more added to it
I'm honestly very pleasantly surprised
I was very worried it'd be a piece of shit but it's been a lot of fun, actual depth involved, and the music is honestly stellar if nothing else
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>>2206410
>>2206413
go back to eu4 if you dont like it
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>>2206623
AI still builds dumb shit nobody needs, and has no inputs on the market. I ain't subsidizing that shit.
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>Dood what if we combined CK3 ("""game""" for little girls with Victoria 3 (game that no one on the planet likes)?
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>2204697
its really weird to me that they copied none of the ui improvements vic3 has implemented over the past 3 years. or the fact that they didnt even copy vic 3 launch ui stuff. the building/production/goods window is completely insane in terms of how its laid out
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>>2206626
Wiz took the 500 brainlets on the left, Johan took 500 brainlets on the right. Like Goku and Vegeta.
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>>2206623
How does it run on toaster-tier CPUs? I got a 5700x3d for reference.
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>>2206630
it runs okay, I have an i5-6600K as I posted before in this thread, which at this point is like from 2015
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>>2206627
Market automation and the system in EU5 isn't as crucial as it is in V3.
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>>2206630
Running fine here on an i5-9400, 20gb ram and 4gb gpu.
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Remember when Johan used to love mana? And wasted all his time on Spanish beaches? He's come a long way since then.
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>>2206630
I have an i3-12100F and it's a few days per second, it's about the same as a Ryzen 3600 as far as I can remember.
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>>2206416
>hover over tooltip
>wait for it to be locked in place
>hover over next tooltip
>rinse repeat until you find all the info you need
I did this for like 20 minutes before even unpausing and it wasn't too difficult to find out where everything was.
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>>2206632
>Paradox makes the game optimized for 3rd worlders becuase otherwise no one would buy the game
Sad!
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I prefer the flat map, but I think the terrain props for forests could be a little denser. And I wish roads stood out more, have to nearly zoom all the way in to see the fuckin dotted line.
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>>2206599
definitely a bug, I had the same thing happen with only being able to get the union on a secondary participant. God forbid any of those youtubers they paid off tell them such a thing.
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>>2206637
Surely a long way from his Imperator mana autism and that game flopped hard
Hope he never carter to fags that cry about muh quick mana button again
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>>2206650
People actually wanted mana buttons?
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>>2206632
>>2206636
>>2206639
Pretty good, but we need to know the late game performance most of all. Stellaris is runs well in early game as well.
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Just called my first parliament bros!
This game is definetly the finest of it's genre.
Been playing around 3 hours, haven't done anything, going to keep making frens with my neighbors and I'll try and conquer one of my bordering SoP soon. Wonder if I can do it or not idk
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Incredibly boring so far, glad I didn't waste money on it.
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SIT YOUR ASS DOWN, TRIBALS!
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>>2205316
>>2206655
Yes
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>>2206662
Scammed haha
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I'm just happy to have finer control over my economy like back in EU3 where I can mint on a dime to adjust as needed.
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>>2206662
I assume you have tools and stuff in the market, right?
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this game is actually good on release WTF
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what does increasing local crown power in locations actually do? (counting houses)
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>>2206662
they are italian
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>>2206670
Crown power is an efficiency multiplier. You need max crown power to get full benefits from the province.
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>>2206645
I can afford a new CPU, I just haven't because I would need to change my mobo as well and rebuild my entire PC
so it's just laziness and the game runs fine anyways
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the map is so beautiful i cant lie
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>>2206668
>CK3 fused with Vicky 3 but in 10 FPS
>Mobile game interface
>AI that doesn't work
>Good
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>>2206673
yeah I feel this. I've never actually upgraded a cpu I've always just gotten an entirely new system lol
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>>2206676
I consider every AI constantly falling into civil war a feature, not a bug.
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fucking garbage UI
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Ooops turns out I didn't know how to use parliament
Good thing we weren't debating anything important anyways
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>>2206673
I got away with this last time because I got a 4790K that basically carried me for a decade
This time I cheaped out and got a 5600X3D and now I suffer
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>>2205316
>If you are saying your is too complex to play, then that's a mistake. It's an amateurish mistake, because simple design is masterful. Complex design is someone who didn't understand how to make it simple.
List all the simply brilliant and brilliantly simple masterpieces this retard designed. By the way, this is what dumbfucks here sound like to me, when they talk about "optimization".
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>>2206676
AI in paradox games have never been the strong suit tbf
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>>2206677
for me specifically it's because I wanna get an i5-12400F and since it's 12 gen my mobo isn't compatible (it only supports up to 6-7 gen)
so yeah
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should i move my levies back to my own territory before disbanding or does it not matter
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>>2206686
>AI was never good so it's ok for Paradox to ship a bad product
Makes sense!
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>>2206688
As long as it says that they'll return in the tooltip, it doesn't matter
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>>2206688
AFAIK it doesn't matter
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>>2206690
>>2206691
gotcha, thanks
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>>2206689
then you do it nigger
mod it in, show the class
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>>2206681
Playing as a minor (and especially an isolated minor) is actually way harder in EU5 because you don't have market access to most of the basic resources you need like stone for masonry and sand for glass.
The north americans are basically locked in to stone tools because they don't have tin for bronze or iron for steel in their RGOs.

You basically need to eat all of your immediate neighbours and start colonizing immediately if you want to scale. Eventually some SOPs will settle around you but you're going to be waiting at least 100 years for that to happen
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>>2206689
I didn't say it was okay...
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irl i hate immigration but in this game i want as much immigration to my capital as possible
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>>2206698
>anon discovers what jews are doing to his country IRL
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>>2206681
>>2206694
Oh, also fyi: you get everything else you commit to during a parliament regardless of if it passes/fails.
i.e. any casus beli, raised taxes, concessions to estates etc. say in place regardless of the outcome

If you don't care about the initiative itself, you can basically just pick estate backed initiatives in parliament to trade 7 stab for a casus beli/tax raises
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>>2206676
>>AI that doesn't work
They'll improve it post-launch
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>>2206699
EU5 doesn't model unemployment.
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>>2206702
>2 more weeks!
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>>2206698
Internal migration is good
Immigration is bad
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>>2206601
The road shit makes no sense. I played a bit as the Ottomans and had to build roads all over western Anatolia, which in real life had been well-developed by the Byzantines during their better years. There would be roads and infrastructure all over the place b the time the Ottomans rolled in.
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how do i build le road
>>2206705
you are right actually
the migration from the countryside to the city is good, not immigration
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>>2206706
It's a gameplay buff. Johan probably wants to hand those out sparingly.
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>>2206694
Everyone around me seems pretty chill desu
Only issue I see myself running into is I will run out of money at some point (though I'm not sure that's going to do anything) and yeah like long term I'm obviously going to be anally raped by the Europeans but it will be more impressive if I stay on this game that long.
>>2206701
Oh good to know I got my increased Levies at least. I only had 12 warriors to begin with but maybe now I can get like 16 and make my SOP neighbor a tributary easier.
Unfortunately I did piss off my noble / chieftain class who are now conspiring with my neighbors but they're my bros so they're all good with me telling them to cut it out
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>>2206708
Right click on a region and the bottom option is "build road"
The UI for this game is completely fucked lol. There's absolutely no logic or consistency to where things are
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I have given up on Hawaii. Which more manageable shithole should I play now? I was thinking one of the eastern SEA tags and trying to colonize Australia.
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can i play as a building
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>>2206693
Speaking of AI surely we should be getting to the point now where we can make mods with chatgpt or something similar running natively and playing strat games against us?
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https://files.catbox.moe/jkl6mw.webm
trvthnvke
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>>2206717
Feeling filtered, idiot?
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>>2206712
>Everyone around me seems pretty chill desu
Yeah, I don't mean you have to be worried about getting into wars with your neighbours.
I mean your economy goes to shit and stops functioning and you're completely unable to build anything because there are no goods in the market and your neighbours/estates keep trying to build buildings which are useless and unprofitable. Since the buildings then require masonry/glass, they fuck over your own industrial strategy and it takes like twice as long to do anything.
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Holy moly

CK3: 213,890 ticks (867 - 1453, 586 years, with daily ticks)
EU4: 137,605 ticks (1444 - 1821, 337 years with daily ticks)
V3: 146,000 ticks (1836 - 1936, 100 years, with 4 ticks per day)
HoI4: 105,120 ticks (1936 - 1948, 12 years with hourly ticks)

EU5: 4,380,000 ticks (1337 - 1837, 500 years with hourly ticks)

The grandestof them all!
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>>2206717
>Dood, let's make a game as complex as possible so that people won't notice brain dead AI and 5 fps performance
What happened to Paradox?
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>>2206722
and yet the world changes less in EU5 than CK2 even
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>>2206715
Yes, but not an australian
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>>2206724
CK2 is maybe the paradox game with the biggest map swings
You should have said vic2 or something
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>>2206721
Not too worried about it desu. Not in any real hurry, I've got another 500 years to enjoy
>>2206724
Thats a good thing CK2 maps are totally retarded after like 100 years
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>>2206729
>CK2 maps are totally retarded after like 100 years
You should probably replay it again. AI was improved to the point it can create and keep blobs stable.
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>>2206724
Is that supposed to be bad? Even then I just got a random claim to the fucking Bulgarian throne as the Byzantines so that's a pretty big swing
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how do i play as a school, it keeps telling me to select a country
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>>2206736
Either buy the school DLC for $20 or get the monthly subscription.
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>>2206729
>Not too worried about it desu. Not in any real hurry, I've got another 500 years to enjoy
Fair enough. The RGOs next to Aak'u are actually super good. You start with maize which has really high demand scaling with population and also completely offsets the food cost of industrialising and then within 2 provinces of your capital you already have silver and gold for minting, stone for masonry, tools and weapons and lumber for construction

The only hard thing is going to be getting the initial tools/weapons you need to start colonizing, but I think there are other ways to do that besides weaponsmiths and tool makers through the villages as long as you have leather
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>>2206741
>You need to buy a $20 DLC for this $60 game to work
Wha the fuck happened?
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>>2206713
right so i built a gravel road from london to truro because cornwall has 0% control but it's still saying maximum 0% control after building
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>>2206747
It was a joke anon
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i've accidently sent 1/3 of my pop in to an uninhabited land thinking im going to colonize it...
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>>2206749
can I play as the gravel road that connects London and Truro?
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>>2206706
>over the place b the time the Ottomans rolled in.
lmao that's literally what I'm playing and why I made the complaint, there's one road in all of Anatolia at game start it's really is baffling.
The fact that northern Italy doesn't have a road in practically every location makes no sense.
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>>2206751
For now.
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>>2206747
Oh boy, you have no clue how EU4 worked, do you? But no, the only DLC so far just adds 8 monuments to the game. They still havent paywalled core game mechanics yet.
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>>2206749
1, Control takes time to build up
2. Roads reduce distance proportionately. London to cornwall is probably too far for roads to fully compensate for distance.
3. There are lots of other modifiers that reduce control (i.e. culture, rebeliousness, lack of resources etc.) You can check it by mousing over the tooltips in the control mapmode to see the full calculation
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Johan secretly added 2 jewish countries into the game and told nobody.
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>>2206747
$15 for ottomans to conquer anything beyond western anatolia
$20 for russia to form
$30 for china to reunite after yuansplosion
and so on
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>>2206760
2 in Europe and like 144 Daimyo BBCs in Japan
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which one bros?
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>>2206760
Okay this is my game tomorrow (I need to sleep first).
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>>2206764
fuck them never give up clay
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>>2206764
I like the look of left
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>>2206764
Give up naples
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I didn't think I would like this game I was skeptical but I have enjoyed it so far unlike victoria 3
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Ok, well I was going to try to fight this war but apparently they can raise 123 warriors and I can only muster 12 so nevermind...
Good news is we have reached the Renaissance and I think I have writen language now so I'm just gonna keep going for taxation.
Bad news is on of my neighbors started blobbing but I'm gonna try to ally them next
Shithole bros, never stand down and never surrender!
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>start game
>3/4ths of the country is completely useless
thanks
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>>2206771
Lmao only 11 good men? how many pop do you have?
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>>2206773
1,836
That's what it says up in the top
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This is how you win.
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>>2206773
11
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I'm going to bed
the game just feels like an endless loop of spamming x buildings, waiting for parliament for casus belli, making sure to keep stability and legitimacy/republican tradition high and making alliances to gank on your enemies
even at speed 5 it runs slow but given the depth of the economy it doesn't get as boring as eu4 did
the UI is absolute fucking garbage, the tooltips appearing everywhere, some icons and numbers too small others too big, unnecessary amount of menus
I suspect mods will take a while to deliver but they will be necessary
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hello gamers
in this game, does it make sense to release a subject who has cores on another country? like how in EU4 it gives you a free CB on them
picrel for example, was thinking of making sardinia a subject so it's easier to manage it
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>>2206776
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>shit start date
>shit ui
>shit ai
>shit start date
>shit forced CK models/dynasty
>shit combat/levies
>shit start date
>shit trade
>shit economy
>shit map modes
>shit hourly ticks
>shit start date

I'd rather go play EU4/CK3.
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>>2206779
Probably will have an easier time managing the area than you even if just from culture and local rule alone.
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>>2206781
im still waiting for them to release dlc for ck3 that isnt complete shit
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>>2206784
I've got no idea about the recent dlc's for that game but at least I can jump in and understand/have fun with it. Same with eu4. 5 is for the unemployed because I can't imagine any sane person wanting to work two jobs and only get paid for their irl one.
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>>2206779
This game if anything encourages it even harder than EU4 did which already encouraged it a lot. Which is more historical anyway. It takes forever to integrate things and you have limited slots for a ton of different cultures, so the game expects you to use vassals extensively while you wait decades to integrate an area.
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>>2206778
So the game is dogshit?
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Ok I'm going to bed
Spent 4 hours fucking around as Nazi Plains Ingen shithole.
Couldn't really do anything, couldn't balance my buget, I might be able to finangle my way through a war against my neighbors if I convince my allies to support me but also maybe I can't.
I think this game has the potential to be the greatest strategy game of all time. I'm not sure if it is or isn't yet. I can say that playing as Nazi Plains Ingens is pretty boring but I'll probably come back to them tomorrow because I'm genuinely curious as to if I can get them to work or not.
No idea if European nations are any better haven't even watched any streams or played them myself outside of the quick speed test I ran as England (also I can say the game has slowed down already just 5 years in but not to a crawl...yet)
I think it's extremely similar to Imperator which is a good thing (I liked Imperator) with a better economy system and a bit deeper character focus as well. One issue with Imperator was that it felt pointless to do anything other than blob. Maybe the economy stuff in EU5 will make it feel more fun to develop an economy instead. I doubt the character stuff will ever be fleshed out enough to make it similar to Crusader Kings where the whole dynasty eugenics thing is at least half the fun.
My overall impression is it's the best Europa Universalis game of all time, but Crusader Kings is still the game I actually enjoy the most.
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>>2206789
seems so
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>>2206792
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>besiege enemy castle
>takes forever for a tick
>they besiege mine
>5 ticks in the time it takes me to do one
Yep, this is EU alright.
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scotland insulted me so i decided to annex half their country
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>>2206792
>Only 80K to players
Holy shit why does no one care about EU?
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How do I make money as a 12k pop rural one province minor? It's 1345 and I managed to amass 25 ducats so far. My rival has 40k pops and my current plan is to conquer one of his provinces. I'm increasing my pops with immigration from Italy and a settler deal with one of my fellow swiss allies. But the main issue is buildings, they are so expensive for my current income. What should I build first to increase my income the most when I reach 50 ducats?
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>Institutions in our country have discovered: Coin Clipping
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>NOOOO, you can not just DECLARE A JUST WAR
>You have to lick PARLIAMENT'S ASSHOLE
>IN NOVGOROD
>IN XIV century
>PARLIAMENT
Lmao, what a shit game, I bet vickyfags love this.
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wait I though Poland used to start at war with teutons and bohemia, did they change that?
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>>2206798
This would've been a banger if it wasn't just a Vic3 reskin.
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this is a simulation not your power fantasy chuddy wuddy buddy
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>>2206803
>Vicky 3 is the most disliked recent Paradox game
>DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD LET'S JUST MAKE VICKY 3 AGAIN!!!
What the fuck were they thinking???
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>Blobbers filtered HARD!
Thanks you Johan!
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>>2206807
JohGODS
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>>2206806
they literally packaged EU-Imperator-Vicky into one game and you're dooming? it's great
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>>2206809
He is a EU4tard
This games has nothing to do with vicky3 or why people hates that game
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you're telling me like 100 years have passed between EU4 and EU5 start dates and literally nothing has happened in Iberia in all that time?
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>>2206815
Yeah IRL history was based on EU5 AI.
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>>2206809
Imperator and Vicky3 are the 2 most dead and derelict pieces of garbage they've ever shat out. What are you being excited about, retard.
>>2206812
Oh look, a vickyfaggot, lmao.
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>>2206586
I'm going to reinstall the game. Instead of trying to do the tutorial I'm just going to pick a small nation and figure shit out as it comes.
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>The blobber still mad
Lmao you lost, go cry on paradox forum with your kinds or sth
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what the hell is with the Balliol situation at the start?
Does England even get a chance to help him win? He died in like 3 months in my game and I never got an event or a way to join his side to help. Really fucking dumb
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How do I select the name of children born to my dynasty/heirs? They just pop up already named.
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>>2206816
no fr what the fuck have the spaniards been doing all that time?
why are honorary latinx people so lazy
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>>2206828
Why do you think they're the ones who invented siesta culture?
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Is there a way to tell the trading AI not to trade a specific good? Everybody wants dyes so my AI keeps trying to export them but I fucking need them for my local scriptoria, I don't want to turn trade automation off but I want to tell the fucking AI to stop exporting JUST dyes.
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>>2206790
In someways it is annoying that some of these countries are so hard to play. But also, a lot of it is realistic. It helps ensures these countries aren't random regional powers every game. Paradox does need to make some sort of alternative economic system for these guys later on though so their comparative weakness isn't depicted as a constant death spiral or otherwise something that generates unpleasant numbers.
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>Trebizond returns to Constantinople
beyond based
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>>2206823
Get a load of this shiteating vickyfaggot, he's mad this trash got lower rating than V3 and dropped a fucking half of players in mere hours. HEY FAG HOW DOES IT FEEL THAT YOU SPREADSHEET GARBAGE BARELY COMPETES WITH 5 YEARS OLD CK5?
LMAOOOOOOOOO
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With bankers you..... win??
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>>2206821
I think this time I will:

>do the war tutorial last
>not worry about the pop ups
>try and figure out how tf to make an army
>try and figure out how to manage and get more pops
>watch some basic guides
>get mad and uninstall and then reinstall the game 3-4 more times
>finally committ and buy the game
>never touch it again becasue it turns out I was jus looking forward to spending money and not actually playing and my brain tricked me into thinking I enjoyed the game becasue it knw I would buy it if I did
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>>2206828
Portugal terrain is hard to invade and they love chimping out
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I saw quite a few reviews, and many negative ones were from hoi4 players/content creators. I genuinely wonder why. Don't get me wrong, I think the game deserves quite a few fixes, but I'm surprised that so many of them hate it. Is it the more sandbox nature? the lack of obvious directions/railroading?

>>2206839
The one thing I've gotten from seeing streams and tutorials, is to just sort of chug along and not pay too much attention to the notifications. Many of them seem to constantly discourage or say you're doing shit wrong, and then I see streamers and they promptly ignore many of the yellow ones.
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>>2206798
EU was always the shittiest Paradox series. No one wanted to play it. This is why HoICHADS always win
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>>2206843
HoI4 is just a bunch of trannies jacking the flesh hole to unfinished mods.
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Performance is abhorrent. I played for 6 hours and only just got to 1400. On a 9800x3d.
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>>2206842
They hate it that there is no quick mana button to make shit happen instantly
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>>2206827
You’ll need to purchase the “Dynasties and Dreams” DLC i’m afraid
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>black death hasn't been in country for years
>only still active in like 3 locations thousands of miles away
>still get negative events with text implying it's killing my people
this is annoying
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>>2206848
>we shall make a game where you do nothing but sit on your ass as you wait for truces/buildings/mana/whatever
>we shall also make the time pass as slowly as possible
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It seems this game is a little bit too difficult for some anons. Maybe Civ is more your speed
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>>2206827
I get a prompt to at least name direct children
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Doktor, remove my autism inhibitors.
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>>2206854
It seems that your spreadsheet snoozefest is unwanted by players, vickyfaggot, try sticking to your autist containment paddock next time.
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>>2206862
Lmao, dented boy can't figure it out
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>>2206830
please help my dyes are dying
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>>2206801
If John Hunyadi had more support from the Hungarian parliament he might have been able to chase the Ottomans out of Europe. Point is monarchs had to deal with this, it's not anachronistic at all. European states weren't centralized until the days of Louis XVI.
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>>2206863
Shit-eating victoriafaggot autist and his another failed game, lmao.
>>2206866
What parliament, schizo? What does any of that have to do with XIV century Novgorod, or any Russian principality for that matter?
>European states weren't centralized until the days of Louis XVI.
Lol. Lmao, even.
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Anyone having issues with the production methods swapping on their own? I have access to clay and want my mason to use the clay bricks method, but it keeps swapping back to stone bricks.
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Comparing colonizing Madeira as Portugal in EU4
>spend 600 diplo mana getting diplo tech
>take exploration ideas
>spend 400 diplo mana on quest for the new world
>spend 50 diplo mana on explorer
>explore madeira
>spend 400 diplo mana on idea that unlocks a colonist
>colonize province
>nothing really achieved, colonial range mildly increased so you can do the same again to the next province
and eu5
>spend money on an explorer
>he starts gathering goods to launch an expedition
>have to keep funding him the entire time
>10 years later he finds the sea tile
>send him back to discover the island itself
>10 years later he's discovered it
>finally send a colonist
>it's significantly cheaper than the explorer was
>actual pops from my mainland manually move there
>gets to 1,000 pops
>place gets a huge migration attraction
>it's not a modifier though, it's simulated through mechanics
>biggest part of it is that there's abundant jobs on sugar plantation (all colonists were peasants, so there are 1,000 free jobs to laborers, who work the RGO)
>begin selling the sugar to european markets
>the second they taste it the demand skyrockets
>the only other source of sugar is granada, which is hostile to europe due to religion and culture differences, so won't trade with them
>mass expand sugar RGO, it's free money
>the sugar trade is already responsible for more of my income than taxes on all estates combined
There's a lot wrong with this game. Lot of bugs. Lot of broken stuff. Runs slow as shit. But this is without a doubt the greatest grand strategy game ever produced.
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>>2206881
excellent post
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>>2206879
By default there's a setting somewhere where it auto-selects what it detects as the most profitable production method. I'm not sure where it is though, or how to turn it off. I just read on the dev diaries that it existed.
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My god the empires have merged
they've fucking merged, the yellow peril is real
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>>2206881
Yeah
Trading monopoly is insanely good, which is how it is irl
In EU5 all the systems supposedly work together to the expected result, instead of just press X for Y to happen, which is why many EU4fags are seething
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>>2206889
I'd be afraid.
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>>2206889
Dont show this to the Chinese
How the hell did this happen anyway
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>>2206881
>But this is without a doubt the greatest grand strategy game ever produced.
Look at this duuuude
look at the top of his chart
oh no no
NO NO NO
*WHEEEEEZE*
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>>2206881
Been doing this with cocoa. It's already so fucking ludo, all I need are bugfixes and better AI and it'll be golden
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>>2206889
Magnificent
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>>2206893
I was in Europe, I don't have a clue
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>>2206889
wtf is a dongguan?
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>>2206901
Some town in southern China
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>>2206891
>Want to colonise Madeira
>Play spreadsheets instead of colonising Madeira
The shit-eating victoriafaggots are really confused about the reason why another game that they've infested is failing so laughably again.
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>enter game
>click around, try to understand where all the EU4 buttons are now
>lose interest and tab out
I can't fucking deal with this ADHD shit man, I should be playing the game and yet here I am making this stupid post instead.
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>>2206881
>Madeira
After reading this post I go somewhere else and get an ad featuring the name...
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>>2206906
>introduce economic complexity to the game
AHHH THE NUMBERS MANA POINTS SAVE ME
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>>2206912
Stop replying to that faggot, he just want to troll-bait
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>>2206910
They are all still there for you, just in much more sophisticated and complex forms.
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>>2206912
>Introduce victoriafaggot spreadsheets to EU
NOOO THE GAME IS LOSING PLAYERS HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME
>>2206913
Stop smearing your victoriafaggot shit everywhere, victoriafaggot shit eating paracuck. EU3 was never this retardedly convoluted. Not that a victoriafaggot like you would know.
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>no bilateral peace deals
what is even the point of a sequel then
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Too much micromanagement for a grand strat game desu, why the fuck am I still building each individual building and personally making sure tools are profitable to produce. Employment manager baka.
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are the ticks supposed to be that slow with months taking like10s even on speed 5? It feels like it'd take an insane amount of time to play through the whole thing
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>>2206926
I really don't know what they were thinking making it check 4 times a day.
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Just woke up, time to go back in. Any interesting mods so far?
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How do I open this menu
I can only open it for some countries by clicking on the tiny country flag that appears when you zoom in, but that flag only appears for some countries
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>>2206918
this one annoys me a lot. If the ai can't be made to do it, just restrict it to multiplayer.
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>>2206930
I think it's right click -> open country panel
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>>2206930
Right click, go to diplo options.
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>first game
>playing as burgundy
>pope calls a crusade
>nobody has any fucking boats so me and my fellow french vassals are stuck in france while the king dies in egypt
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>>2206936
>>2206937
Ah I see. Thanks
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ok im going to give this shitfest another try.
Is there even any point of playing outside of eu or is the ai too shit and the game too anti-blob to have fun that way?
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So far it seems like people like it for reasons I'd like it or hate it for reasons I think are invalid. Guess I'll bit the bullet and buy it after work on friday. Dont fail me Johan
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I feel like I'm playing victoria
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>>2206897
Yeah, the bugs are crazy. This honestly feels like it should have been given a 2026 release to really stick the landing.
Still though, I was amazed when the colony finished and there was high migration attraction. I thought for sure it would be some immersion breaking "just colonized +200%" bullshit, but it actually simulates why it would be a viable migration target. Ample food, lots of jobs, I really didn't think they'd be able to make a simulation thay actually fucking works.
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>>2206943
yeah, most of the time spent doing stuff is microing buildings
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What the fuck? I just got a separatist rebellion. I defeated them immediately and was just sitting on their forts sieging them down. In the middle of my siege, they just joined another country. What happened???
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Is there any reason not to put all taxes on full?
>the heckin satisfactiorino
Yeah, just lower them if they start threatening to revolt.
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>play Dithmarschen
>unpause and immediately getting annexed by the overlord
>absolutely nothing I can do about it
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ok what can i actually do about pirates/privateers

they somehow spawned along the coast of northern norway so its hardly critical, the area is 99% worthless regardless, but i can't seem to actually be able to do anything about it
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>>2206949
The estates can run out of money, went into a death spiral already because my merchant class was broke and couldn't even issue out loans.
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>>2206954
>click fleet
>click assign mission
>click patrol seas
>select seas that are infested with pirates
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>>2206948
They accept vassalization from another country
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I got filtered by trying to build military buildings

Why cant i build it in NEITHER Towns or Rural locations?

What building should i even build early on

I'm filtered hard
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>>2206949
Gives you a higher equilibrium which is useful to modify sometimes. There's various scaling bonuses for loyalty. That's about it.
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>>2206966
3 things you should focus asap
Road
Market buildings
Buildings that increase crown power
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>>2206966
>What building should i even build early on
natural resources that sell well and that your pops need, build up the RGOs.
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>>2206966
You do not understand, you can not start building buildings until you discover the new world, export coffee and sell it to the architect so that he can finally have a runny morning shit and focus on your project instead of his constipation.
THIS IS INTERESTING, IT'S GRAND STRATEGY, IF YOU DISLIKE IT YOU MUST BE ONE OF DEM EU4 MANADEVILS



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