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is it good?
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Can you parafags please shut up
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>>2215129
No can do chief
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>>2214929
Just because it is a good game doesn't mean that it is good.
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>>2214929
it's the best game paradox have made in over a decade and a true return to form after the increasingly miserable releases
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>>2215129
Is Johan in your head too? I'm so tired of his cute mannerisms and loud *SNIFFS*
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>>2214929
Yes but trade is retarded sometimes. I went from a great economy to -40 ducats a month without warning.
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>>2216234
Just like real life
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>>2216234
How much were you spending on food?
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>>2214929
They've doubled down on more buttons and abstract metrics that create the illusion of complexity without giving the gameplay meaningful strategic depth or creating an immersive simulation experience. Plays more like Victoria than EU, the start date is too early, the AI is too passive, the pacing is glacial, and the UI resists any attempts to play the game. But, as usual, the map is an improvement over the last iteration. I may revisit it a year or two down the road if it sounds like it's shaping up well but for now I'll be going back to Strategic Command: WWI.
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It's KINOSLOP
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>>2215129
sorry bro im trying to market the game. you can come back in 2 weeks and we'll stop spamming about it.
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>>2216732
>They've doubled down on more buttons and abstract metrics that create the illusion of complexity without giving the gameplay meaningful strategic depth or creating an immersive simulation experience.
>Plays more like Victoria than EU

these are 2 contradicting claims really
or am i replying to a bot post now??
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>>2219197
I've sank over a thousand hours into Victoria II and I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fun with it, but if you think it's a deep game of strategy or a realistic simulation of anything then we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
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>>2219303
*ahem*, these are video games, after all. If you want truly realistic strategy and tactics, go join your country’s defense ministry and play in their war rooms.
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>>2219303
It's a more realistic simulation of an economy than anything else Paradox has made, which isn't saying much, but still.
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I am 40 hours into my campaign and it's only 1500 - but it's okay since I am having fun.
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>>2216682
0
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EU V France is worse than EU IV Ottomans.
Nerf them!
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>>2214929
It's kino.
Give it a year and it will be the greatest gsg.
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>>2219513
The game period ends with France soloing all of Europe 7 times in a row. Of course they're OP.
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I’m just starting and like half of my buildings need inputs? Why did you retards make potters if you don’t have clay? How the fuck do I get clay?
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>>2219678
Import or produce it
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>>2219697
How do I import?
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>>2214929
>Play 100 years on my potato
>Speed 4 feels like speed 2
>In 100 years conquer 3 provinces, build 3 towns and adopt 3 institutions
>Ottoman Empire never forms
>Most of the Ottoman precursors turn Orthdox
>Byzantine Empire falls to Naples
>France looks the same in 1437 as it did in 1337
>Eastern Europe goes nowhere
>Hungary gets fuck huge

I like it a lot but I need to buy two Ram sticks to play it. It feels like the hit mod Memes and Crashes but not made by fully inept people.
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>>2214929
>conquer provinces
>die from food expenses
nice game
>UM THATS JUST REAL LIFE
no real life is letting them starve. 0 control too why the fuck should I care
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>>2215129
You didn't answer the question.
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If you liked Victoria 2 and EU 3, you'll like it.
If you liked zogchow goyslop EU4 you'll hate it because you're a gay pedophile redditor.
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>>2219828
I just want to stack modifiers and break the game, not figure out how to import mud from Schlewig Holstein.
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>>2219828
I hated EU3, loved EU4 AND I loved Vic 2. Take that, goyslop connoisseur
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When's the TES mod? I'm tired of CK3, EK2's setting and presentation is great but the lack of country management and economy stuff is awful.

>>2219513
That's historically accurate though, France was monstrously powerful in that time period. People don't realize it these days because their more recent history has clouded things but in EUV's time period France was the hegemon of Europe, they had a massive population and birth rates that let them basically war as much as they wanted without demographic consequences (then secularism happened and the birth rates started tanking and Napoleon gradually ran them out of steam).
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>>2214929
It will be in 3-5 years when its Anbennar version gets released
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>>2219828
>new game in series comes out
>streamers get paid to shill it
>zoomers that never cared for the series decide to latch on it
>to feel better about being tourists they decide to deride the previous games despite knowing nothing of them
>they'll forget all about the game when the next shilling campaign starts
Happened with BG3 and is now happening with EU5. Kill yourself.
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>>2219990
>eu3
>zoomer
I don't watch streamers. Kill yourself you fucking retard.
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>>2219990
you're right man everything is artificial. No one actually likes anything, everyone is an actor getting paid to interact with you. BG3 is one of the best games i've played in the past decade btw
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i tried it out. shit seems stupid atm, but it might be good eventually. i'll away some more DLC and patches and torrent it again in 4-5 years.
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>>2220071
I'm sure it was
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>>2214929
Why does nu-paradox always screw up the soundtracks? Half the joy you get out of playing these spreadsheet sims is orgasming at the beautiful OSTs, to the point that the company itself published the full OST for free in the Vic 2, EU4, CK2 era

Now the soundtracks suck so bad that nobody even cares that they uploaded them on YouTube
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>>2219303
Name 3 deep strategy games
>inb4 just says slop with bad ui like shadow empire
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>>2220151
War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition
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>>2216732
>Plays more like Victoria than EU
Maybe if by EU you mean EU3. EUIV has had Vic2's complexity for about a decade now.
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>>2219828
Dude, make up your mind, is it zogchow or is it goyslop? You can't just call something two things that are complete opposites. Come on, I know /pol/ taught you better than that!
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>>2216732
Try playing England, you'll be lucky to spend a year outside of war with the BBB.

The AI is plenty aggressive when it has a CB. It's just getting CBs to invade is way harder and the AI seems to avoid no CB wars.
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>>2220214
>spam monarch points button to make le hyperdevelopment reddit megacity
Yes yes very complex anon
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>>2219990
>kill yourself
Do you ponder about suicide much anon? Everything ok?
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>>2220151
Total Annihilation
Supreme Commander
Zero-K
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>>2220137
Andreas Waldetoft left Paradox.
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I'm not memeing.
Is eu4 worth picking up now? Or should I just jump I to eu5?

Unironically asking as an Eu3 lover.
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>>2219303
I spend about 80% of vicky 2 looking at the diplomatic screen stealing the most powerful spheres from other nations so that all of my borders, all secondary powers, Brazil, Egypt, and Columbia are in my sphere.
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>>2220151
Mius Front, War in the East, Flashpoint Campaigns: Southern Storm.
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>>2219705
Look at the markets map mode, markets are like pools of resources for the population, if a building has no inputs it means the market it's in has none of that resource. You import it by making trades in the trade panel moving the resource from one market to another.
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EU5 or CK3 All Under Heaven?

I have a dilemma.
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>>2220321
The time to pick up EU4 was like eight years ago. It's over. The time to pick up EU5 is probably a month or two from now.
>t. preordered
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>>2220495
EU5 and it’s not even close.

I hated how they added a whole new region while what’s already there still has so much work to be done. M as
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CK3 to EU5 to VIC3 to HOI4 conversion mod/DLC/expansion when?
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I'm making a decent amount of money almost 300 years into the game, but I can't expand because I'm stuck between big guys.
Mercenaries seem really weak compared to other games. Or maybe I just don't understand how they work.
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>>2220570
How is colonization in EU5? And say I start as England and want to go to East or Southeast Asia, could I then then have my monarch marry an Asian woman after conquering land there? Is it possible? Can I accept an Asian culture as I could in EU4 or is it an unrealistic goal?

I enjoy having a WMAF run now and again in CK3 and EU4.
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>>2220579
Of you want a coomer run like that, than maybe ck3 is more for you…

I haven’t gotten to colonization yet in 5. The game does go much slower than CK3. I think it’s possible to marry into zhongguo royalty as a bong though if you get that far and cultivate positive relations.
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Eu5 is top kino
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I just started a game and ran into a weaponry and stone bottleneck once I allowed peasants to have weapons privilege with the increased weapon demand.
Surely it's a bug that the default production method inputs for weaponmakers is lumber + stone instead of lumber + iron? Stone is all imported as an input for the masonry I need for buildings, but this is preventing me from producing any weapons. I have RGO's for both lumber and iron, but no stone RGO's so this is making me butthurt.
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Clicking buttons in your kingdom to make people have a bigger church or market or be more "satisfied" is all well and good.

How does world conquest look?
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>>2220621
>Surely it's a bug that the default production method inputs for weaponmakers is lumber + stone
Reject modernity. Embrace tradition.
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Is this the current thread? I wanna do my Boheemian AAR
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No, shitholes are unplayable, and i will not play in europe like all the other normies
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>>2220647
>China
>Korea
>Japan
>Khmer
>Dai Viet
>Spice Islands
>Jeets
>Mesoamericans
>Incans


There are plenty of options outside of Europe.
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>>2220669
>Shitskins
>Shitskins
>Aryan shitskins
>Shitskins
>Shitskins
>Shitskins
>Shitskins
>Horse niggers
>Temple niggers
All crafted and designed for big white colonizer cock
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>>2220690
Anon told us he was into that.
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Will I get more goods as time goes by?
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what's the launch setting that apparently makes the game run faster?
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>>2220621
anon, technology of iron weapons was lost with the fall of roman empire, you start in dark ages
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>>2220801
>1600
>Nigga hasn't even taken Vidin or pushed into the Golden Horde
>Bulgaria took over Moldova
How the fuck are you even a kingdom?
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>>2220823
Hungary and Bulgaria annexed Serbia in the first years of the game then bulgaria took over southern moldova since I didn't have an army to make incursions into there at that point and I couldn't go anywhere from there.
>How are you a kindgom.
Population I think.
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>>2220801
Hello, fellow wallachian enjoyer. I don't have an answer for you, I just wanted to show solidarity.
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>>2220831
Tell me your secrets. I got boxed in very early, was it just bad luck?
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>>2220834
Yeah, probably. My "secret" is that Halych, Kiev (Sorry, KYIFF), Muscovy and Serbia swarmed me with alliance invitations, and I abused that. Bulgaria declared a succession war early, and they got steamrolled by my Serbian ally. Moldova never formed and I just slowly chipped away at the the small counties, while I kept getting "Golden Horde instability" events for free CB's. I took Făgărași from hungary semi-recently while they were fighting Venice, their army never even reached me. The Ottomans also bugged out after taking Bulgaria and they kept their doomstack in their capital while I took the rest of Dobrogea from them.

Also, Vlad spawned and while he has really nice stats, I didn't want to fuck up my entire dynasty because I had ties to half of europe and omega-alliances cause of it, so I didn't take him as ruler.
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>>2220862
ALSO, I spent all the money I got from beating up on the golden horde on building villages for soldiers and a professional small army of horsemen and put them on the flanks of the peasant army.
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Did someone figured out what's up with the alliance breaking? Can't keep an alliance without the nigger AI breaking it. Saved Luxembourg from total destruction and the nigger just broke the alliance a month later. It will accept a new alliance and break it immediately.
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>>2214929
It's ok
Just remember that half of your CPU and ALL of your GPU is used to make that mirror effect of oceans
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>>2219678
>>2219705
The game has tutorial build in, why aren't you using it?
Hell, the game has tooltips for everything, why aren'r you reading them?
This is the first PDX game that tells you everything you need in short, concise way that even a kid in elementary can grasp, so what's your major malfunction, private?
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Anyone got any idea why I can't arrange a royal marriage? By the looks of it there's a whole slew of countries that will accept but then I click them the option is greyed out.
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>>2220925
Nevermind, you have to click the flag to go to the main diplo menu instead of clicking the whole wide bar
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>new infantry unit types dont get a bonuses to strength untill like 4 ages when after 300 years of 1.0 strength it jumps to 1.5

wut, better cannons scale to more strength but going from handcannone to arquebuses does not?
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>>2220495
The problem with CK3 is it has no real country development, and not even the pretense of trade. So once you fulfill your territorial goals, the game is done.
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I did it
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30 years war simply won't happen and I'm prevented from doing anything from gigacoalitions for 150 years
FUCK
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CATHOLICISM IS OFFICIALLY OVER
MARTIN LUTHER APPEARS IN BOHEMIA
FAIL CRUSADE
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>>2220978
levies are at 100% at games start any actual army of 100 pops is at 10%
levies lose 10% per age
you shouldnt even consider making any military until 3rd age when its atleast at 400 or 40% power when levies are at 70%

like 80% of this game is just noob traps
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>>2219828
I have 6k h in eu4 and hated eu5 for the first 20-30h but now I love it
It has the same 1000h tutorial curve as all paraslop but theres also a mental trigger to enjoying this game, its weird

I think it may have been disabling the 3d map that did it for me
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>>2221223
It's called sunk cost. You're one HRT dose away from calling everyone saying something negative about it a chudcel.
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>>2221278
I think you are a nigger and should hang yourself as soon as possible just like the trannies you seem to obsess over :)
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>>2221283
Tragic, it's already taken the dose :(
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Gonna play Aragon.
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>start playing
>economy immediately goes into the red
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>>2220862
dont get hit by a drone
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>play as holland
>no risk of war for 50 years so I spend all my money on infrastructure
>out of nowhere England declares war on me in 1380 with no casus belli, and immediately lands a 12k stack on my capital
>the HRE only sends ~6k troops to help, and they immediately job
What was I supposed to do here? This is bullshit. Even if I focused on building up an army I wouldn’t have had the population to match England, or the income to sustain mercenaries.
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>>2221412
If you play a small nation then you are shit out of luck if a GP decides to invade you, this has always been the case with Paradox games. Accept whatever setback you suffer from losing the war or reload and hope for better RNG.
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>>2221450
lmao? are you serious?
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>>2221468
What do you expect, some esoteric tricks that allow you to defeat armies 10x your size? That only works in EU3
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>>2221450
Yes but I’m a member of the HRE. It just seems odd that England, who is losing the Hundred Years’ War, can effortlessly invade the empire like that.
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>>2221481
In reality, the HRE was always just as strong as the emperor was. Princes would often not bother sending their full troop requirement because those states were always extremely unstable to begin with like all pre modern states. Weak emperors leading weak states in the HRE who can't corral the princelings, temporal bishoprics, and electors into sending the agreed upon troop count would regularly be pushed around internally and externally.
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>>2221481
Ideally England should devote all their resources towards the HYW, it randomly invading nearby targets is probably just the AI having a stroke (though the lowlands are rich as fuck so if you can invade then why not) so I understand that it feels frustrating. I'm still playing my first game but if you're near the start of the game then shouldn't the empire be weak and decentralized as all hell? It should not be this impenetrable defensive pact immune to all invasions, like >>2221496
said it should more or less just reflect the strength of the emperor who has to tardwrangle all his princes the same way you have to tardwrangle your estates.
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>>2221025
There is county development, it’s just completely irrelevant to the gameplay, you can blob to your hearts content. It serves to add “complexity” that has zero impact whatsoever. It’s good that it’s there I guess, but the game just take any advantage of it.
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Am I fucking up by neglecting to build a navy? I disbanded mine at the start of the game to avoid having to pay upkeep for it, but I heard that using your navy to have a higher presence in sea zones increases your control in provinces.
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>>2221554
Yes, a few light ships can get you up to 100% maritime presence ez, which massively increases control overseas. It isn't like EU4 where you need hundreds to make a difference.
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>>2221558
I managed to annex Hainaut but Brabant joined our union much later and so our integration level isn't synched, how can I get them to increase theirs? Do I just vote on the same shit again?
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>>2221579
There's something really fucky going on, I can't go to the two coastal provinces because whenever I try to move an army there it only asks me if I want to transport my troops there using ships but I have no transports so nothing happens when I confirm it, and I can't walk over there by land for whatever reason.
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>>2221682
The fort is providing a zone of control preventing you from moving there.
They're kinda fucked sometimes though, I've gotten troops stuck on a fort unable to move because another fort was next to it.
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/gsg/ sisters it's at 82% now!! how do we stop the count??
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Why don't they make speed 6?
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I still have no idea idea what the fuck I'm doing, my economy has shrunk from like 30 monthly income to 5-10 now
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>>2221876
For one, your light ships aren't actually doing anything. Merge them and click the "select objective" button, set to "patrol the seas". You can click on an individual seazone to see maritime presence, ideally want +0.0 at 100% but it increases with pop cost so don't worry too much and just keep it at 100
Beyond that there's not enough info to go on, but what I've found is that setting taxes on peasants to auto and removing taxes on all other estates helps, otherwise they will drain money and give utterly nothing back. Check if their income is lower than expenses
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>>2221907
They're all making money and paying taxes, except the clergy, I've been unable to find any laws or reforms that makes them pay money to the crown. I would be in the red if it were not for burgher taxes so it seems like a crazy idea to only rely on peasants, unless this game has some meme trickle down economics where estates just build all your infrastructure for you if you don't tax them.
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>>2221945
As long as they're positive it's fine, just in my game they were negative for 100 years and doing nothing but being a burden. Varies by nation I imagine.
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>>2221945
>>2221975
Didn't actually look at the image lmao
Nah they're in the red by 10 ducats. Reduce their expenses, raise their income. This largely comes from improving Control before expanding further, as they are getting more pop demands while receiving 0 taxes from control.
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>call a crusade
>have to do all the heavy lifting because the ai is too retarded to build transports and if they have them they don't use them
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>>2222004
every crusade is just castile and france walking through the libyan desert destroying the mamluks and giving up halfway through egypt for some reason
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>>2220137
I just played my own late baroque music. (Johann Joseph Fux sonatas). So now when I listen to it again I get that cozy feeling of warring France as England and gobbling up provinces to try and split the country.
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I think I'm just too dumb to learn a new game all over again, fellas
EU4 was easy because it's just EU3 but dumbed down
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>>2221412
U were supposed to ally with the frogs.
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>>2220137
I like ck3's soundtrack
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>>2221998
>2221998
Oh, I'm retarded. I just assumed that the "income after taxes thing" was their net total surplus, not just revenue before expenses. I'm in a bit of a coalition pickle at the moment though, I'm half tempted to start over and play better this time but I'll try and see if I can salvage this sinking ship.
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On fonem grave
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>>2222165
GET SUM
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EU5 is very gender-affirming imo so i like it.
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What's cookin' good lookin'?
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Aztec reform is bugged.
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>What's cookin' good lookin'?
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>EU5 is very gender-affirming imo so i like it.
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Robbie maldie
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>>2216732
>and the UI resists any attempts to play the game.
I'm feeling this
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>playing holland
>hainaut keeps changing this shitty union's thing and destroying my estate loyalty
what the fuck dude
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>game starts with a town on your only province with a good rgo
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>>2222379
Okay tell me 10 things you want to change on that ui. But explain it as if you were talking with your UI designer employee
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>>2222612
>But explain it as if you were talking with your UI designer employee
get rid of these fucking nested panels
>"but how e-"
I don't give a fuck just find a way
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>>2222619
will do saar just wait a moment
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>>2222703
I'm so glad I've hired Ranjeet and his 30 cousins. Such hardworking and diligent people!
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How do you form Jerusalem? I conquered the land as Cyprus but I don't have anything in the form new country tab.
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>>2222721
Saar jerusalem isa tier 2 country and cyprus starts is tier 3. You can not redeem the tag.
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>>2214929
How would you know? They force you to buy the game to find out. All the streamers shill for the game. They censor reviews and anyone who leaves a negative review there are tons of replies blasting them from the fanboys
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>>2222782
>They force you to buy the game to find out
https://fitgirl-repacks.site/europa-universalis-5/
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The absolute tragedy of making a strategy game so immersive and so complex only to be ruined by a completely helpless AI that makes every run wildly ahistorical.
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>>2222837
on a small scale it's actually a lot smarter than most paradox AI and it makes tactical decisions. It just has issues with expansion and country formation.
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I've been having fun
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>300 years into the game
>1 (ONE) instituation growing slowly

absolute ass if you're not playing inside europe
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>not playing in Europe
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>>2222837
Imagine if AI developers actually made something useful like gaming AI smarter. Instead of trying to push the mark of the beast on us.
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Its good, but they really need to add the 1444 start. 1337 Is a Little toomearlt and thus feels like a long slog waiting for the Exploration Age, missing key features of the EU experience like the Hasburg monarchy or a serious Ottoman menace
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Bring back eu3's tech progression.
I want to get guns 120 years before everyone else as Aachen and declare war on France just to see if 12k dudes with guns can mow down the French army.

Looking at the numbers for sliders in eu5 it looks like since eu3 they've really tried to tone down he change you can make.
>oh .05 of this growth!
>slider maxes out at PLUS TWENTY PERCENT of this minor thing you can probably literally ignore all game.

Feel free to call me a retard. I haven't played it. I want this post to be wrong.
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>>2222921
I'm sure they'll add it.
I like the time before exploration starts to deal with some rivals or set things up ahead of time.
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>>2222934
go back
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>>2222921
> but they really need to add the 1444 start.
I think 1453 and 1650 are the main addition we need right now. 1444 was basically a compromise so they could still somewhat include things like Byzantium and the hundred year war. Having a game start with those things 100% over is more sound for balance reasons and makes the start date more unique. Meanwhile, post Thirty Year War could basically carry a second game in content and mechanics.
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Why does it cost eight times my country's GDP to build a road from my capital to an adjacent region?
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>>2222956
I want to do things. Not have things happen.
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>>2222988
Shut the fuck up ch*d. I've been consooming every goytuber's video since the game was announced. My life had nothing going on outside of this game release. I've spent money on it. It's perfect. Don't like it? Go play something else :)
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>>2222988
What shithole are you playing?
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>>2223001
This is me, but unironically. Even my gf broke up with me.
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>>2223011
Iceland...
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>>2223020
The cost of the road scales with the distance between locations, just like travel time for armies, because you're building a longer road. Sparsely populated countries have to spend a lot more for less reward.
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>>2223032
I'm pretty sure you should be able to make your soldiers build a road and all they should get out of it, and several campaigns, is some farmground...
I'm already paying my soldiers, now dig. Don't like it? Execute them.
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Colonization is so fucking kino. Basically a reset where you build a tiny parallel society from the ground up
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>game has ck3 models
are we going to get some gooner kino from LL?
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>>2223114
Have you tried playing as a colony yet?
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From someone who enjoyed EU4, and who ignored almost all videos/info on EU5 before buying and playing it, yeah, it's pretty fun.
It's like a weird mix of EU4 with some hints of victoria 2 pop and rgos and stuff.
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>>2219661
And soloing Habsburg empire during the middle too
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Is it fun?
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>>2223126
No, havent gotten the option yet
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>>2219513
France was THE big boy of Europe for a LONG time anon.
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>>2222988
If you play Ethiopia it cost like 400 ducats to build a road from one province to another.
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>>2221025
I suppose I'll get EU5 and wait for a better sale for Chapter 4 before the bundle expires.
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>>2220579
eu5 has portraits just wait for the gooners to port mods over and you can create the house of von Hannover-Yamato and have hapas rule the world.
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How viable is it to make money offering loans to other countries? Asking for a friend.
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>>2220815
St Benedict allegedly retrieved using his divine powers an iron sickle a retarded snownigger lost in a lake. Yes, an iron tool being lost was a big enough deal to move divine powers. This is the post roman civilization world the snowniggas created btw
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Things going well Got 2k cash from HRE as Emperor but I'm trying to switch to republic do I really have to get Plutarchy all the way to 95? Any tips to make more money?
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>>2219950
Eu3 is fucking kino though.
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Play Knights if you want something completely different before it's likely patched. Can become either a gigajew and just steal money from Europe or form your own crusade with a huge army of regulars off the bat.
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Watching Legend play this now, what's up with the 10 hour days that start at 8:00 and end at 18:00?
Surely hours don't matter in a 400 year game...
Unless the hours are there to progress battles more quickly so instead of month long battles, it's only a couple of days in game ticks.
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No, seriously seriously though. Is eu4 worth it now?
Luv vic 2
Luv eu3
Never played hitler 3 or 4 and never played cuck 2 or 3.
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Finally, a true Neapolitan man on the Napoli throne
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How do characters decide which court to live in? Is it cultural power or gp score or something else? I was setting up royal marriages and realized I lost a bunch of characters to other courts and could no longer use them in my cabinet and armies
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>>2223309
Yo my nigga Black Laz!
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How soon do you think they will add in custom nations? That became one of my favorite ways to play EU4 after I got over 1000 hours in.
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>>2223306
I love Vicky II and I like EU IV.
Just pirate it, my lad.
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>>2223414
why would you want custom nations when you can just play a country that forms prussia
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>>2223421
England and the Iberian countries are what I played most of in EU4. I always liked colonization games over Continental autism. Crusading is also fun.
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>>2214929
I've only played HOI4 which I hate, stellaris and ck3 and compared to ck3 I can't figure out how to play this game because it just doesn't tell you information in an intuitive way and it seems needlessly complicated UI wise and the map looks ugly as hell.
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>>2220579
Colonization is at its pinnacle desu, especially compared to EU4's completely streamlined experience. Here you actually can't send infinite Dutchmen to colonize the entirety of North America within a century. Shit takes planning, money, manpower, and strategy to properly execute, and your colonial subjects aren't some backwater rejects but do shit on their own, start some wars, make you loads of cash. And best of all you can say fuck you to the pope when he tries to force you into complying with divine providence (splitting the world to benefit only his fat ass).

TLDR; it's kino
>>2221049
This was my first run too. Did you manage to take Flanders? France has been protecting them since day one and I haven't been able to annex them whatsoever.
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Now that the dust has settled. Is antagonism a good system?
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>>2221064
Are literally all of the world's problems his fault?
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>>2214929
Here's some tips I've written on notepad that I've gathered from watching guides. Some of them may be wrong, it's just what I've gathered from other people.
Reducing Naval maintenance destroys maritime presence, don't decrease spending unless necessary
Universities and Libraries increase culture attack and pop promotion speed
Once at least 50% of a locations pops are part of a primary or accepted culture, the location is assimilated
Research to get more cabinet slots immediately
Use balliffs to increase control in high tax locations, their effects do not stack.
Try to get cabinet members, army leader, navy leader, etc. part of the crown estate if possible to increase crown power
Estates give 0 levies when under 25% loyalty
Countries will not ally you if you have a coalition against you
Castles are complete shit with low fort maintenance
The more food in a market, the more pop growth. Build more granaries to increase max food storage which increases pop growth.
Build Docks, wharfs, etc.
Build Marketplaces, a lot of them.
You can only secondary peace out a country 12 months after the start of the war, unless they are fully occupied
Don't invest into art

Army tips
Right click on a unit to move to reserve
Always move cannons to reserve, auto-assign does not move them automatically

Values to generally go for but this is very subjective
Centralization
Innovative
Humanist
Plutocracy
Free Subjects
Beligerent
Capital Economy
Communalism
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>>2214929
I heard that once you start colonizing the natives begin taking over your government or parliament. They force diversification on your nation.
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As an avid Hearts of Iron 4 player, I can say that Europa Universalis 5 is way too confusing. What am I even supposed to do without a focus tree?
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>>2223541
>Always move cannons to reserve, auto-assign does not move them automatically
Think the same goes for cavalry, they need to be on the flanks to get their 200% bonus (as the center is usually the last to fall) but the auto-assign divides them equally.
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>>2223541
>Values to generally go for but this is very subjective
>Centralization
>Innovative
>Humanist
>Plutocracy
>Free Subjects
>Beligerent
>Capital Economy
>Communalism
I'm playing as the Ottomans and going full Spiritualist because I want to convert pops, but this seems objectively like the best set of values. Unless you are doing some kind of role-playing.
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Does the Golden Horde ever break up on it's own? Like I've never seen it in the timelapses but that's a very small sample size.
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>>2223425
British minor (wales, cornwall etc) colonization was always fun in eu4. It's a countdown to escape to the new world before you're gobbled up by england. Tempted to try it out for my next run in eu5.
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>>2223541
>Use balliffs to increase control in high tax locations, their effects do not stack.
Apart from some very specific scenarios you shouldn't be using bailiffs.
>Humanist
Spiritualist is quite good because the tolerance of the true faith gives a huge bonus to pop satisfaction (+20%), which has a lot of positive effects. Probably on the whole it's situational/preference as to which is best
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>>2223609
in the "The Steppe’s Thunder™" dlc goyim perhaps
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>>2223496
Coalitions seem buffed now that you explicitly have to disband them or they'll just come again when the truce is up.
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>>2223637
From what I understand the edge case for Bailiffs is if you have a high tax province far outside your control that you want the money from and you also have spare noble power to play around with
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>March into the livonian order
>my navy gets owned due to bad placement so no supplies by sea
>its fine, I will just live off the land :)
>the land in question
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I just want to colonize, not spend 200 years skirting bankruptcy for reasons I cannot fathom
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>>2223757
This game isn't for you chud.
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>>2223757
I'm retarded and automate just the trade and it's pretty easy if you can understand basic supply/demand and green number = good and red number = bad.
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>>2223770
Most of the trade is meant to be automated I think. It's too tedious to adjust all the trades. Some get cancelled too.
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>>2223770
Yeah, I build infrastructure and military buildings and mostly leave trade and the normal economy to the estates. You couldn't possibly micro everything past one or two provinces.
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>just want to chill as Portugal
>Castille makes me a rival
well fuck you too...
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>>2223789
Yeah I think so too. It seems good enough at making a profit and also fulfilling all my pops needs. The manual trade capacity slider is also useful for setting up like a semi-automatic trade too.

I really like this game so far. I fucking hated Vic 3 but I'm actually into this so far
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Should I just be pouring everything into my capital early on? It's where I have all the control and where all the pops are. Is building RGOs outside the capital and buildings in the capital the way to go?
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>>2223905
Pretty much, especially if you're a small country. The control penalty is pretty brutal. At a certain point you'll hit the limit of what its population can support though, and there are benefits to developing towns in other places for specific reasons, like building up port towns to increase your trade capacity.
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>>2223541
Does artillery bombard in combat while in reserves? Does anyone know?
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>>2223957
I think so. Not as much but they wont take as much damage
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When I set my fleets on a mission to do maritime presence they just sit still in the same sea tile. Do they not move around on their own when on a mission like in EU4 now?
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>>2223966
Nl, they do nlt move like light ships do while protecting trade, but it still counts.
Check the Maritime Presence map.
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Does having more regulars than "expected" increase army maintenance? I assume it does but I can't find anything in game that says so.
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>build standing army
>unavoidable attrition in my own territory due to winter
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>>2214929
I hate it so far. I'm on an older system so the game slogs by 1600 onwards.

Also,I want to play EU, not Vic3 + some CK2. Finally, the game is another POPULATION game, you know, like the other paradox game Stellaris.

It's like they combined 3 games' system into a hot mess.
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Paradox heard too many EU4 players loved blobbing too much. So they made EU5 a tall-focused game, so tall in fact, you'd be playing a colony sim/city builder in your own capital for 200 years lol.
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>>2223637
Bailiffs have been huge for me. Why don't you think they should be used?
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>>2223983
Does that mean I don't have to put my light ships in their own fleet to do maritime presence missions?
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>>2224002
stellaris pop system is still too abstract and gamey
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>>2224008
I remember the Stellaris trailer and the feeling of exploration and expansion in the game I was imagining. EU5 kind of has that.
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>>2222755
ok this officially makes EU5 worse than EU4
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>>2222892
>>2222897
wait 4-5 years for dedicated DLCs to make other regions more "OP" from the start.
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>>2224022
i didn't say it was good. It's very cheesy, even post pop-rework update. Stellaris has always been a population game
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>inland & landlocked capitals are worse
>have to move capital to coastline or next to rivers
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>>2224045
Inland isn't always bad. For example look at Mali, you're inland and can eventually move your capital to the western or southern coast, but it's better to keep your capital where it is for control.
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>>2224050
But at a certain point it's always wise to move your capital to the coast right?
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>get a claim on Aragon's throne
>press it and win with ease
>pat myself on the back with this event
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The English version of this game is riddled with misspellings, grammar issues, and errors. I can't imagine how bad the other versions are
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>>2224053
Having a large public wedding to yourself to flex on the people you just conquered is pretty based I guess lol
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>>2224055
No mistake english saar. I l learn very good in Delhi.
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>>2224055
It really is. I guess if nothing else the Swedish branch at least knows English.
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This game seems a lot like wait for more money to tick in so i can build next building and repeat
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My army is being led by 100 stat native american pagans and my country is completely fine with it
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>>2224072
why did you give up france
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>>2224085
I felt like doing a historical-ish playthrough for my first one.
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>>2224072
I mean, he's 100 stat, it would be foolishness to drop him.
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>>2224069
Pretty much all Paradox games can be boiled down to "Wait for this building to be built."
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>>2224072
He's been knighted so he's clearly a man of noble quality.
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>>2219990
This is a bait
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>>2223132
It has some stuff from vic3 like the buildings being behind every production or the estate system
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Reminder to disallow conversion outside of religion group to prevent Orthodox Ottomans! Unless you want to do memey stuff which I am about to do and it's going to be so fucking fun.

>tfw already reached the point where I can come up with meme strategies
Now the true game begins
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>>2224069
Chuddy discovered strategy games. It’s why I play cod instead of this gay shit most of the time
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>>2224129
I wouldn't say CK3 is like that. Sure there is waiting and downtime and at times but the focus isn't so much on buildings. CK3 seems more about scheming and fighting than this which is more about building up the country and economy?

>>2224276
Wha? Aren't chuds basically bred for strategy games and start playing them already in Kindergarten?
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>>2224267
What causes Ottomans to go Orthodox? Is it rebels or does AIconvert to majority religion on it's own?
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>>2224298
I think they just convert due to majority Orthodox population.
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>>2222921
Literally nobody will play other start date more than once
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>conquer land near the pope's border
>sell it to him for ludicrous amount of money
>capture it back with parliament cb
>repeat
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>>2224331
>Colonize next to my colonial nation
>Sell the land to it
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>>2224072
Fucking brits importing browns to their country for no reason.
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>>2224072
if you put that guy in a proper uniform and gave him a haircut the peasants won't know the difference between him and some swarthy Mediterranean nobleman
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>want to play a comfy tall game as Bohemia
>make no effort to become emperor or interact with the HRE in any way besides voting no on reforms
>Habsburgs piss off all the electors and Jan the Blind becomes Emperor like 20 years after game start
welp
How do I Emperormax in this game? is Renavatio Imperii a realistic goal?
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How can I change the market for one of the region I conquered? It's costing me a lot of money to buy food for them even though my main market is overflowing with food
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>>2216732
>They've doubled down on more buttons and abstract metrics that create the illusion of complexity
I feel that people will say this regardless of what you can do in the game
>the AI is too passive
Is not
>the pacing is glacial
Doesn't feel like it
>and the UI resists any attempts to play the game.
It's so bad it might be one of the first things they patch
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>>2224331
>Curry favor with an ally
>Every 5 years ask for their entire GDP as payment
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>>2220151
Garry gitsby
Age of empires 2
Karryn's Prison
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>>2224404
What is the emperor doing while France and Pooland are eating everything they want from the HRE? Genuinely asking because I don't think I will touch HRE emperor stuff in a good minute, I think they are doing something because Denmark conquered some land in the north of Germany and after a few years I noticed they were released as vassals of the emperor or free tags.
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>>2224072
This is not unrealistic at all, some natives were part of Spain nobility and even fought for them
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>>2223445
Not the same guy, I managed to take parts of Flanders bc it got on a personal union with Denmark, so I keep fucking the Danes and taking land from Flanders, got lucky I guess
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>>2221945
Increase your raw material production, for the Dutch in the beginning is wool and your dyes in Den Haag, up the Wolega crop production also to make your breweries profitable, also up the salt production in Middleburg, it always has a positive income. And finally use the casus belli no to conquer mostly, use it to fuck up your neighbors and take money from them. Of and push for scriptorium and paper production, to trigger the printing press and get the book and paper workshops ASAP, you will get rich in no time.
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>>2223559
low tier bait
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>>2221945
Did you scale your UI? your pictures feels more "readable" than when I am playing. Playing in lower resolution maybe?
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>>2223559
Me but an avid eu4 player suffering due to lack of mission trees.
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does the order that a unit is in an army affect battles in any way? or can I just dump them in the flanks I want?
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>>2224008
And that's a good thing, fuck eu4's mindless blobbing
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>>2224656
>fuck the game for letting me play in a different way
Reddit was a mistake.
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>>2224661
If you want to play the game in a retarded way then just go back to playing the retarded game, we don't want your kind in 5
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y99UqvgCmE8
^__^
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>>2224681
>drools on the keyboard staring at a static map for 1k hours
>opens 1000 menus
>clicks one button
>HURR DURR ME SMART ME UNGA OTHER PEOPLE BUNGA
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>>2224656
>And that's a good thing, fuck having choices in your strategy video games. Play in only one way allowed by the developer or fuck off and die, nigger!
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>>2224700
>>2224738
This but unironically, if you want to spend your time painting the map and clicking dev buttons 9999 times you should quite literally go kys yourself and/or play dogshit4. Here we play slow and tall, just like it's meant to be
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If I got a location with an RGO I want to expand but only like 2000 shitters living there are any other options than that "promote migration" cabinet action? Tried it but it was slow as balls.

Should it be promoted with an "expel population" cabinet action on some peasant filled shithole?

2 cabinet members for 1 RGO sure is a lot.
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>>2224756
>the more time you spend watching instead of playing the better the game
Reddit was a mistake.
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Are galleys still the go-to choice for anyone who is not bordering the Atlantic? Do they still get those asspull bonuses everywhere where naval combat occurs 99% of the time?
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>>2224661
Blobbing counts as different?
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>>2224661
You can still blob.
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>>2214929
yeah. Dare I say it is
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>play Sweden
>convert to Nordism
>take all the Fortress Defense mods I can get
>Novgorod declares war on me
>they start sieging Viborg
>it'stime.jpg
>circle around their army raiding Novgorod for slaves and burn all the food around the province
>watch their 6k stack melt down to 2k
>defeat them
>go for another slave pass
>peace out for cash
This strategy is so fun - I can't wait to see what kind of losses I'll inflict upon wanna be invaders in the future while I raid the world for slaves.
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>>2223445
>This was my first run too. Did you manage to take Flanders? France has been protecting them since day one and I haven't been able to annex them whatsoever.
Nah, I just have the Netherlands proper minus two towns in Frisia (Brabant took them during an occupation) and Brabant in a PU but I can't figure out how to bribe their estates to vote yes to increase their integration level, might be a bug ATM
>>2224524
I'll try that, thanks
>>2224541
No, default UI settings for a 1920x1080 monitor
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>marry Austria
>get Austria'd into some kind of personal union with some other literally who
>state loyalty gets absolutely fucked
>Can't even declare war to get rid of it
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Should I become a monarchy bros?
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I'm trying to increase the integration level of these guys who joined the PU much later than Hainaut, but every time I'm unable to bribe their estates with anything to get them to vote yes, has anyone managed to get this to work or is it a bug?
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Anyone know if there's a way to speed up annexing a fiefdom? Annexing Byzantion is going to take like 20 years
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>>2225801
You get +100% if they have the same culture.
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>Get coalition against me as Byzantium
>Day one just give 50 warscore toll exemption
>It doesn't do shit
>War is over
Did they fix that yet? Cleaning up bordergore in Greece/Anatolia was fun otherwise
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>>2225826
>People say you can't blob
>Playing Naples
>Control Greece, Albania, every east Med island, Cilisia, some random bit of Anatolia, Northern and western Syria, Lebanon, and most of central and the southern part of northern Italy all through subjects.
>Corsica, Sardinia and Sicily are directly controlled
>PUs on Provence, Croatia and Hungary
>My heir is also the Duke of Loraine
>It is 1408
I am begining to think the anons here are too stupid to create vassals and fiefdoms before roads and boats get good.
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>>2225536
You can play tall in HOI4
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>>2225882
Generally in HOI4 you go through a tall phase pre war and then blob. It is the same way in EU5 but you play tall untill you can get light ships or the second level of roads. Before that just build up your capital and make subjects.
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Every time i siege a province occupation flips to one of my colonial nations, they dont even have troops, is this a bug or did i do something stupid?
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>>2219661
>France soloing all of Europe 7 times in a row
It also kneecapped them for the next 200 years
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>>2225871
Is there anyway to see the progress of my subjects rebellions? I am also playing Naples as my first run and sardinia and some greek states have rebellions every so often but it doesn't tell me when. I've caught it every time but I'm probably going to miss one at some point.
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Czech out the absolute state of this country
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>>2225971
I don't know, for me it was Achaea but they would call me in to save them from rebels and all my other vassals would take care of it.
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>Deleted my regular army instead of my levies
>again
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>>2222921
they will never do this. the vast majority of players exclusively play the earliest start dates, and trying to balance additional start dates is wasted effort
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What the fuck, are auxiliary's OP or how did they beat me that badly when my army is so much larger and has more regular (drilled) troops?
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>>2226139
There's a lot of reason why that can't be gleamed just from this screenshot.
Terrain, army leader, army tradition, flanks, RNG, and other factors play a part.
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>>2226139
Also I think just from looking at it your cannons were in the front line and got shredded and were unable to deal damage. Put them in reserves
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>>2226057
>deleting manually instead of just hitting the disband all levies button
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>>2225687
How the hell did you form Ireland at 1443
I get ass raped by England every time and the scots never want to ally cause I'm too weak
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>>2226429
Got lucky I guess. I only fought the pale and a buncha of their vassals didn't join. Had my navy keep the english away and they were busy dealing with the french
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>>2226429
Try to drag the Pale into a war by attacking a country they have a marriage union with, England won't get called in that case. Then annex all their provinces and you'll inherit their vassals. Keep relations high with England and Scotland and try to form a defensive league with Scotland to dissuade them from attacking you.
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>the silver mine in Austria is called Judenburg
uhm...hello??? this is 2025, antisemitism isn't cool
punch all nazis
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>>2224001
Sir... You can completely avoid if you you simply put your army on town or city tile.
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>>2224001
Never saw this, are you building food stuff?
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>get Portugal early into a union as Castile
>Aragon later declares war on them
>don't get called into the war for some reason
>Portugal gets raped and the entire northern part gets turned into an Aragonese vassal
>kick the shit out of Aragon later on and take the stolen Portugese provinces for myself
>can't figure out how to give the provinces back
>sell them all for 150 ducats per province back to the Portugese
thanks for the money suckers
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>>2221558
I was comparing maritime presence values per ship. Not at PC atm but I saw med galleys have a maritime presence of 0.12, while the basic light ship has a presence of 0.14. Are light ships really that much better? At least galleys can hold their own in early game combat.
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>>2220248
Using monarch points in EU4 has way more depth than anything in Victoria 2, since it has actual opportunity costs that force you to make decisions, whereas in Victoria 2 it's just promote soldiers, then promote clergy, then promote craftsmen every time.
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>>2228706
It makes a bigger difference later on (age 3 is 0.2 vs 0.14 for example) but you're probably right in the early game. Difference with light ships is they're like seaborne cavalry, higher combat speed and flanking bonus, so arguably a fleet should have both.
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holy fuck automatic naval transport is broken. Why the fuck can't i just manually load my men on
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>>2228828
try the "embark army" button
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The game's good but it's missing something without Andreas Waldetoft's music. EU4's main theme is fucking transcendental, and nothing Paradox have been able to put out since HoI4 has had any memorable music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YopeMKDusDM
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>>2228847
eu3 theme was better though
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>>2224434
>Age of empires
deep
age of empires 1, 2 and 3 is toddler tier. Even a monkey could learn it; it doesnt have any depth, just simple mechanics. Literally a "number go up", "farming" and "level go up" game with unit spam. And no, "army control" is not deep, nor is it strategy. Not in age of empires 2, at least
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>play muscovy
>going well, get most of my surroundings as vassals
>dec on golden horde for break tatar yoke around 1380
>revolt against golden horde starts, it wins while Im at war with them
>insta annexes all the territory i had occupied into muscovy, like 250% warscore worth
>release Crimea and Saratov as tiny 50-100k vassals
>5 years later horde pops and my vassals get all their cores

Its now 1530 and Crimea has 1.5m pops, it would take me until 1680 to integrate them lmao
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>>2228881
it will take you until 2014 :^)
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>>2228902
heh
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>>2228902
>crimean invasion was 11 years ago
what the fuck
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>>2228881
Get fucked zigger
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2GsTYnvFo
Lol so true
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>>2224072
The only unrealistic part of this image is him not wearing european clothes.
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>>2224072
The 1600s equivalent of every football club signing random Ngubus because they're good at taking corners
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Am I crazy or does FoW effect the ai now? I've been able to get them stop chasing my shitstacks sometimes by crossing mountains I wonder if it's because they can't see it anymore so gave up, normally of course they will chase the army to run it down.
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>Character reached 16
>manually marry her/him
>Character reached 16
>manually marry her/him
>Character reached 16
>manually marry her/him
>Character reached 16
>manually marry her/him
Seems like everyone is fucking except the average eu5 player, thanks for the reminder I guess
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>>2229372
>be noble
>instantly get an arranged marriage to secure your line by dad
it was simply better times, not even considering all the servants they could take advantage of.
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>>2229372
>playing nordic sweden
>enact polymarriage
>enact favorite child inheritance
>rulers always end up with a dozen children
Still, fuck the game for killing my 100/100/100 son "under mysterious circumstances" right as he was about to come of age.
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>game let's me slaughter pr*testants enmasse.
very based
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>>2228723
>whereas in Victoria 2 it's just promote soldiers, then promote clergy, then promote craftsmen every time.
That is literally an opportunity cost you're describing since you sacrificed earlier research gains by getting literacy going sooner in order to get more soldiers faster. Depending on your circumstances that may or may not make sense. Much like the decision on what to spend your mana on in EU4.
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Auto arranged marriages for courtiers fucking when?
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>>2230408
I still don't know how to reliably get to the screen that marries these fuckers to some other fucker
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>>2230408
Closed the game because of this.
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>>2230408
Are they that important for your attention? That feature sorta just seemed like a roleplay feature to me.
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>>2230438
Having lots of courtiers from your dynasty is free crown estate power (cabinet members, generals and admirals)
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Im going to buy it soon I guess. The fact it isnt immediately hated by 90% of people is a good sign
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>>2230438
>don't marry the petty nobility
>no women for your non-heir dynasty to marry
>no crown advisors
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>>2230497
>>2230442
Fair enough. I will pay more attention to breeding.
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>>2230504
Good Breeding is very important matter of the state, be sure to purchase a vile of the virgin mothers breast milk to promote their growth.
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>>2230497
>petty nobility
does it says anywhere what kind of nobility is the ck2 character from?
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why did they nuke all the beards in the first patch
and why hasn't it been fixed already
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>>2228828
>create a unit
>they decide to embark for some reason
>can't finde the button to disembark
>campaign ruined
>>2228847
Is he not working in paradox anymore? he completely carried stellaris with his music alone
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This game makes you choose between coversion and integration of pops.
Isn't it better to choose integration every time? It's the only way to get cores on your locations. You also have a lot of culture capacity so you can accept a lot of cultures, whereas you can only accept one religion.
Am I missing something?
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Hegemony proclaimed!
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>>2225955
Hey, didn't get kneecapped as hard as the Spanish and Austrians at least
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>>2214929
it's good as long as your country isn't near France
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>>2231449
Clergy estate exists and with sufficient power they grant something like +100% conversion speed. Almost every clergy privilege also gives Spiritualist Value so you can easily push it to +50% bonus from that too. That's 150% conversion speed already not including effects of the individual clergy pop in locations. Play something like Ethiopia for an example of religious conversion speed and how much you can stack bonuses.
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>>2231490
Am I still expecting the emperor to go out of his way to defend the HRE like it's eu4, this clearly isn't the case anymore so what gives, does France just have free reign to take the whole germany? They are already at my border in my campaign and it makes me want to ditch the run. Does the emperor even cares?
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>>2231490
Yea... France is no joke. They eventually get 100k troops by like 1370s
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>England, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and half of europe is ruled by random polish dynasties or Piasts
NICE BELIEVABLE WORLDS, JOHAN
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vgh
jacobite victory...
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>>2231581
>Kurwa filtered
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>>2230490
That's opposite of inbreeding tho. Individualism/close self-isolating circles is for inbreed-maxxing.
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>>2214929
It's a typical Paradox game, a broken beta sold for full price that will get dozens of shitty flavor DLCs and the hard coded bugs and problems will never ever get fixed
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>>2228881
Seize they locations 1 by 1 while integrating. Just make sure to not make them extremely disloyal. Another thing you can do is enforce your religion/culture on them. So they assimilate themselves for you.
There also bug that allow to annex vassal if it's fully get captured by rebels (as you are war leader you can't lose war, but instead of peace treaty you will get annex-revolter), you gonna need to integrate it afterwards, tho.
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>>2231581
Hello yes I'm the Glogow-to-Silesia guy who PUed England and Austria.
Take that, von Habsburgs.
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Why is it so fucking expensive to move capital?
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>>2231639
All Paradox games fall short of their potential because they're missing three ingredients: 1) AI that can give an experienced player a run for their money, 2) Functional naval combat, 3) A late game worth sticking around for. Their customers have been asking for these things for decades and they have never delivered in any of their titles. It's not that they can't, it's just easier and more profitable to milk players with DLC that adds more stupid buttons, fluff mechanics, and 'flavor'.
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>>2231504
But it's still cancerous as fuck to overcome -50% assimilation
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>>2231673
you can do it for free if you have the itinerant capital law after your ruler dies
not sure what affects which cities show up on the list though
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>>2231679
Well it makes playing an HRE minor insufferably hard because it costs more to move the capital to the nextdoor city you captured then to found a new city entirely. It shouldn't cost gold to move capital when you have zero government buildings.
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>>2231696
what's the point of moving the capital to a next door province? The towns will still have similar levels of control
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>>2231707
So it isn't a fucking rural backwater
>but you can le just make it le city!
And ruin a good RGO??
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>>2231707
>>2231708
Also you can't even get professional troops until later techs meaning you get completely cucked unless you do move capital to urban area.
>spent 100 years with zero professional troops because I didn't know this
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>>2231708
>>2231712
try changing the law and see what happens when your ruler croaks
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>>2231713
Too late already took out 3k in loans to move it.
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>>2231715
good goy
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>>2231639
It's a highly functional game
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It's starting to look pretty solid, I don't know what could stop me at this point except an invasion by France, England or the HRE. Still have no clue how I'm supposed to diploannex Brabant, the PU parliament thing to increase integration level seems to be bugged.
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>>2231738
>PU parliament thing to increase integration level seems to be bugged.
The PU parliament is only for new countries that join an existing PU with lower integration. If your PU is just you and Brabant then you don't need to call the parliament, you just need to wait 50 years and activate new pu laws as they become available.
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>>2231751
>The PU parliament is only for new countries that join an existing PU with lower integration.
That is the case, this was originally a PU between Hainaut and I but Brabant joined later and now they're stuck at integration level 3 and whenever I call a parliament I can't bribe their estates with anything.
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No idea if this is because I'm eugenics maxxxing or random dumb luck but it seems to not be entirely random as far as I can tell.
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>>2231754
I was going to attempt to backtrack every single unification policy and then redo the whole process but the integration level can actually go into the negative, what the fuck
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no, not really. maybe in a few years with DLC and patches. i'll be torrenting of course.
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>>2232830
Same. Fuck Johan for literally doing it again but for now i'm still pirating this shit until they've polished the game and ironed out a lot of the game breaking bugs like the game suddenly lagging out after a couple of years or so
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>>2233320
>Japan literally had its first ruler when Rome was still a mere backwater settlement
Japan's first verifiable Emperor was Kinmei in the 6th century AD. It wasn't a unified country by the time the Western Roman Empire collapsed and hadn't even began recording its own history.
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>>2230445
A lot of the eu4 youtubers paradox shilled not just from June but even last year during open beta gave feedback to the devs which led to a much more polished release. For once they actually listened to their base before doing anything radical. Despite a lot of people getting mad that monarch points got gutted as well as a lot of the gamey mechanics so far the game is well received among all sides of the playerbase

Victoria 3 meanwhile had it bad since Wiz indirectly rebuffed a lot of the criticism a lot of the old players had with the new mechanics. despite being a successful launch it failed to attract a lot of the hardcore victoria 2 and instead attracted a new audience addicted to economic management and 'line go up' cookie clicker games
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and mind you victoria 3 got leaked which literally skewed a lot of the expectations of the old playerbase and turned them off on buying the game
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>>2219197
>Plays more like Victoria than EU

This is true and its okay, it just means EU5 is a masterpiece
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>>2220137
eu5 soundtrack is great but its too short, its one of the best in the series but just too fucking short
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>>2220579
>I enjoy having a WMAF run now and again in CK3 and EU4.

have sex you loser
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>>2214929
>is it good?
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>form Scandinavia as Denmark
>Swedish is still considered enemy culture
lmao
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>pirate the game because fuck paradox
>start as serbia
>want to take greece
>spy on byzantium
>can't create a casus belli to take provinces, only trade wars
Don't tell me wars and land taking is locked behind a fucking technological advancement

also wasnt there a mission tree? they mentioned it in the tutorial for a brief second but i cant seem to fucking find it in the sea of menus inside menus
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>>2233917
declare with no CB you coward
or go cry and shit and piss in parliament until they give you a claim
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>>2233917
Mission trees are basically tutorials, you need to enable them on game start. Or maybe you can just do it by hitting esc and changing game rules, for once.
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>>2231490
>>2231546
So like OTL then
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is it a bad idea to build handgunners? I just like building guns.
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It's an honestly crazy redemption arc coming from Imperator
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>>2233963
renaissance and discovery infantry regulars are pretty fucking bad compared to same age cavalry, they don't even do well against traditional levies
They're cheap enough if you just want to pad the size of your regular army and claim military hegemon and that's kinda their only use
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why is there so many female rulers in game?
I'm playing byz and the game ignored my rulers sons and brothers,
the throne first went to the wife of the emperor of trebizond, (byz eldest daughter) ignored all princes
later it went to her daughter (she had 1 dead son)
now it will go to another daughter (no sons)
this daughter in turn have (no sons) either and approaches 40
besides being ahistorical, for ingame reasons this is a problem since ex. I can't appoint her a general and a woman will become naturally unable to have children quite early so far less potential advisors and diplomatic marriages
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>>2234013
What's the succession law in byz? Might be some greel shit or a bug, playing in western europe i always see my throne going to a son if possible
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Bullheemia is currently smacking the shit out of the pope with a 100/100/100 Hussite von Luxembourg Queen
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>>2234022
so I googled and its apparently an issue with the scripted byz civil war, it randomizes which children plots against the ruler and exempts them from succession. this led to the first rulers daughter inhering, but doesn't explain all the other bullshit either a bug or very unlucky
byz has basic Cognatic primogeniture, seems like I will be forced to switch succession type (50 stab 50 leg) for a man to inherit with Favored Son or Salic
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also how am I supposed to revoke the 'Consolidated Corruption of the Elites' for the Dynatoi, its costs 116 stab and you need 95 leg
did a small playthrough earlier and going under 0 stab gave me a 'decline of the byz empire' giga-disaster tick (even after I won the civil war)
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This game is like pure crack even though I have no idea what I’m doing. Last played the EU series at EU4 launch.

Managed to form Two Sicilies and am just barely floating by in economy. Should I just spam RGOs everywhere and max out a burgher building in my capital?
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>>2234067
Lower stab cost by decreasing their power, some policies reduce the cost of revoking shit too, then increase stab as much as possible with money and cabinet
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>>2234074
RGOs are always profitable but don't build too fast you need to fill them with laborers and pop promotion takes a while
Max granaries out in your cities because food storage gives pop growth
Libraries in important cities are also very good since literacy has a long list of bonuses
Then just build whatever makes money
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The UI is so poorly designed I don't even know how any decisions were thought of as a good idea.
Every time I open the advancements trees I'm just Flabbergasted. A fucking college student would not make it that shitty.
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>>2234086
not being able to zoom out in there is just so retarded and counterintuitive that i just can't understand how it released like that
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should africa colonies by under direct or colonial rule? currently trying to figure out asia trade
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Reminder that if you savescum lost wars/battles you are too much of a subhuman to share your opinion.
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>>2233917
Call parliament, get 50% support, ask them for a claim. As Serbia you get an event war against the Byzantines though
You can freely fabricate claims against people of different religions btw
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>>2233374
the legendary japanese emperors are all real trust me. their superior diet and fish oils let them live up to 250 years
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>play as Bohemia and become GP 1 and HRE pimp within 60 years
>enter The Hus
>Europe just explodes
This is great. Why don't we do that shit nowadays.
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>>2233917

Did this get changed in a patch? You can get free claims on three Byz provinces within a year of game start, and bonuses if you take them within your King's reign.
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>>2234086
Stick to Eu4 /gsg/ baby.
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What the FUCK is up with court and country? My balance went into the negative as soon as it fired and it just ruined my run to the point I just deleted my armies, let my PU husband take care of my rebels and after more than 10 years I am just going bankrupt literally every two months.
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>>2234046
Why are the rebellion names so stupid? Why not just use the CK2 naming.
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>>2214929
fix the damn colonial flags already
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Why is there always no foreign noblewoman to marry, tf.
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It takes awhile to learn how to play, it's not just a UI problem, the game is very complex. Things that at first seem like bugs are often misunderstood mechanics.
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>protestant Elector won't vote for me, a protestant, because the Imperial religion is Catholic
?????
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>>2235946
This is the case since eu4
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>>2235957
that's cringe
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>>2214929
Its alright, its not a very complex game despite what people say. Its just very obtuse and suffers from a horrid ui (looks like it was deaign with a console port/controller functionality in mind)

Id say eu4 is more "fun" but eu5 is definitely more engaging if thay makes sense.
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>Golden Horde settles
>ruled by a regent
>no heir
>no dynasty
Fix your fucking game, Johan
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how do I see "de jure" borders? I formed netherlands but I still want to see what other locations make up the formable.
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>>2231696
The funny part is you dont even move the government buildings. They just get destroyed
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>>2234087
There's a mod for that
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i fucked up again
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>>2214929
After years of careful preparation for my push to the sea I rolled a fucking full-retard for an heir...

I even went into debt on an expensive education, and he just came of age with 50 IQ stats 15/21/16

How do I kill him?
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You should get an option to refuse the Emperor enforcing peace
Fuck that bitch for ending my war.
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>>2234086
>The UI is so poorly designed

No its not
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Putting my Ironman game on hold until they fix the inland exploration bug.
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>War of Religions gearing up
>Hungary decides to no CB war Protestant League leader Austria
>Calls me in using favors because fuck you
I hate this mechanic so much it's unreal. I white peaced as soon as I could and and left those Magyar cunts to hang.

Also,
>At some point in time the French king decided to convert to a tribal Central American cult
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>>2236085
>got the 2nd round of plague which culled 15% of my population
>economy fucking collapsed as i can barely tax estates without them revolting
>even more shit keeps happening from the disaster
let me off this ride
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Is having double digit population growth for years after the black death goes through normal? Playing Holland for reference. Like it was at exactly 53 for about a year straight, it seems weird that it wouldn't fluctuate at all.
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>>2236276
why haven't you formed the tsardom yet
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>>2236333
because i got memed into vassal swarm which ended up gimping me
vassals take insanely long to annex because they spam the towns/cities instead of rgos
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>>2236303
53 what?
0,53%?
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>>2221945
>unless this game has some meme trickle down economics where estates just build all your infrastructure for you if you don't tax them.
That's exactly how it works lol. As long as your estates are happy they will focus on building productive buildings. They will also build like useless buildings that make them powerful or consume more food a 1/5 of the time, but for the most part they actually invest their money back into your economy when they have spare cash.
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How many hours y'all already have?
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>>2224008
You can still blob by expanding through vassals. Right now in my Ottoman game they provide 34/120 income, 31,000/38,000 levies, and I can steal their sailors to build my navy. For all intents and purposes your vassals are part of your empire and count for blobbing. Personally Adminstering that much land is just ahistorical and inefficent.
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>>2236576
This.

Vassals are 100% going to get nerfed before long though.
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>>2236303
Yeah that's fine, as your cities get bigger you'll start out scaling neighbors with pop growth. Netherlands sucks to play currently cause the whole area just ends up a huge mess with French meddling
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>>2236563
i wish i didn't have to wageslave, i barely slept this week
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Is free mobility for the common people any good?
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>>2236590
Yeah, I'd say it's very good even
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>>2236580
Yea they defiently should be more rebellious. I've had literally no issues with them despite the majority of mine being the wrong culture and religion, and their total forces outnumbering mine 4 to 1. My clergy on the otherhand piss and moan despite paying 0 taxes just because I'm tolerant of the infidels.
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>>2236605
>>2236576
Clearer pic of my empire.
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>>2236576
vassals are bait
they give you fast powerspike, but it a struggle to annex them
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Does Wales get an event to annex all their tiny OPM vassals, or do I need to integrate them manually? I don't want to waste my time and eat all the penalties for integrating them one by one if it'll happen anyway.
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Is /vst/ the Paradox board ?
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>>2236656
they'll integrate them slowly over time but the AI seems to be a bastard for leaving like one or two little vassals around for decades after having annexed all the others.
>>2236701
it was created as the paranigger containment board because they feared /gsg/
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>>2215129
Parachads are the only reason this board exists for cucks like this to whine like a little bitch on. Show some respect.
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>>2236563
Been splitting my free time between EUV and PoE
Around 1600 in my first playthrough right now, getting mad at the Emperor for enforcing peace and ruining one of my parliament wars
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>>2236145
Just one more badly designed nested tooltip, bro. Just one more badly designed nested tooltip and this will be a great UI I swear.
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>>2236817
Not him but the tooltips are good and is the last of the things that should be fixed in the UI
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>>2236639
>but it a struggle to annex them
it's really not though unless you're already weak
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>>2236639
That's why you wait for the age of absolutism
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why won't the AI use their damn transports?
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>>2236885
>expecting the AI to use the navy correctly
Is this your first Paradox game?
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>>2236541
But do they do it more efficiently than if I just tax them and spam infrastructure on my own? Or is the convenience of not constantly having to open the production tab worth it? Right now I'm making like 200 ducats a month and a few thousand banked up and sure, I could just mass spam RGOs, roads and villages but at this point it doesn't feel like that has that big of an impact
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>>2235862
whats wrong with those flags? that's st. patrick's saltire
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Has anyone actually reached the 1800's? I never see any screenshots post-1600
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Is it just me or is the AI woefully bad at keeping up with military advances? I'm just coming into the 17th century and I'm still finding countries using men-at-arms and feudal levies. All of my wars are becoming massive stomps because my professional pike and shot armies are just crushing everything they come across with 10:1 casualty ratios.
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>>2235862
Do pops in your colonies count for the requierements to become an empire?
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Castile always bullies Portugal. I don't think they know Aragon even exists.
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EENDRACHT MAAKT MACHT

Thank God I can keep a bunch of little OPMs without the game treating each one the same as an alliance with France.
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>>2237129
What setup are you using? Right now I just have two stacks with 2/2/2 arquebusiers with 9 cannons in reserve, I'm guessing those ratios are off and that I need some cavalry in my army but I have no idea desu
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>>2236508
53 people per month.

>>2236585
Okay thanks just wanted to make sure it's not a bug or something. I'm pretty sure this run is going to go very badly since my heir is a retard and I the player am also possibly a retard, but that's why I started with a country I have no expectations of.
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>>2236207
Chib-chan!
Kawaii~
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>>2237188
IIRC my stacks are 12 arqs, 5 heavy cav, and 5 cannon. I probably ought to even out the cav and cannons so that they distribute between the flanks, and maybe get more cannon too. I thought artillery no longer fired from reserve though?
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>>2237205
I've seen in some videos and some commenters say to always put your cannons in reserve and cavalry on flanks.
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>>2237206
TBF the most micromanaging of my armies I've done is pressing the re-balance button.
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This fucking ass country.
Can anyone tell me why everyone keeps breaking their alliance with me? I mean, they don't even desire my land or anything. They just fucking do it.
And now I can't even ask them for an Alliance because MY opinion of them is too low.
What the fuck can I even do?
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>>2237218
Are you the target of a coalition? I think unless you have high trust and a long relationship with a country they are likely to break an alliance if they don't want to be pulled into a coalition war
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>>2237225
>Are you the target of a coalition?
Yes.
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I thought of something silly. The culture assimilation cabinet task assimilates a static number of people per month instead of a % of the population. If you only annex the capital of a province instead of the whole province, you should be able to assimilate the capital much faster.
Take the rest of the province in another war while taking the capital of a different province. Leave the rural locations unassimilated. Repeat.
Rural discriminated pops should slowly migrate to civilized areas where they are the minority and will be automatically assimilated anyway, right?
Good idea?
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>>2237225
Any idea how to increase MY opinion of another country?
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>>2237259
Deporting all brown people is usually how you increase my opinion of your country
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Is there any benefit to having high level marketplaces in my capital? I've reached building limit and wondering if it's worth it to start demolishing some of these marketplaces to make room for buildings that can benefit from high production efficiency
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>Countries are now sending me alliance offers then breaking them a few months later, over and over.
Please, make it stop.
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>>2236817
My favorite one is something you'll hover over something like "trade advantage" and then first tool tip it gives is "trade advantage" to which you'll have to hover over again to get to the actual definition.

Im not looking at the game currently so dont know if that particular example is accurate but there are plenty in the game like that
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>>2237193
Holland specifically is a rough start cause all its starting advantages are very fickle. Like your starting wife is set to inherit brabant and thus your son is set to inherit it and holland. But the chances of it actually happening are beyond slim due to black plague.

Also there's roughly like a 40% chance bravest eats your starting pu. Also black plague will likely give you a super early hook and cod wars ranking your economy.

Holland has a ton of very early landmines, it being a recommend starting country is honestly just silly.
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>>2237218
The ai will not let itself be above dip cap so they constantly drop relations
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Any chance to win against a bigger enemy? Like against Castile playing as Portugal?
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I never asked for this
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I feel like I have crazy decision paralysis with this game I didn't get in EU3 or 4. The way markets are structured I'm spending like 3 hours getting familiar with my economy before unpausing. I have 50 hours on the game and have never played to 1338. How do I fix this psychology?
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>>2219303
>>2216732
It’s more complex and a better simulation than any other paradox game though.
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>>2237547
Just play the game and treat it as practice runs, learn from your mistakes and if you really want to minmax then just look up the guides written by gigaautists who have already perfected the game
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>>2220137
Vic 2 is the last good soundtrack they came up with,
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>>2222921
they just need to railroad the AI unless you're playing the country itself

Ottomans gotta get buffed and always aim to consolidate anatolia and expand into Greece
Scotland gotta do its thing
England gotta be foreced to unite the British Isles right after the 100 years war
France trying to consolidate all its lands
Army-based nations need to have bigger stab penalties as the game progresses
etc.

Currently the AI is never really hard lined to do any of those so what you get is a static looking map
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>>2237622
They need to bring back actual claims and stuff so the ai is guided to attack places instead of just blobbing randomly
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>>2237622
Expanding is the best option and the AI will do that, the problem is that the AI is also good at making alliances networks
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>>2233489
I have sex daily with my wife. She is also Asian.

WMAF is the future.
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PUs are currently broken. You can pass a law to unify the succession laws of the nations but it actually doesnt do what it says so they can still have different heirs still
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Has anyone figured out how to steal subjects from France? Specifically Flanders
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>>2237743
You can't, you'll just have to live with it or somehow form an alliance of whatever minor hre states end up living (hre usually gets ate by outside powers)
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>>2237743
Get allies and then go in on France during the next Anglo-French battle in the HYW. Blob until then.
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Not much is going on, I feel like the run is pretty much over already
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>>2237875
Not with that Limburg.
Disgusting.
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>>2237955
Not much I can do about it, they've been a subject of Bohemia for centuries now, they have a standing army of 55k, 26 vassals and God knows how many levies. I guess my end game goal is to take Flanders from France and clean up all the Bohemian vassals but I don't think I can do that without just waiting and building up for another 100-200 years.
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>>2237962
You can afford a bigger standing army anon
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>>2237966
In terms of cash, yes, but not manpower. I can field maybe 6-12k more men.
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>>2237976
with that many provinces you can easily solve that problem
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>>2237981
I'll try spamming more barracks and standing armies then, it's not like I have anything else to spend all my money on.
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Built over my buildings limit in my capital and now it seems like the population is declining. Does this level out at some point or will it completely depopulate until I get rid of some buildings?
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Anyone else do HSE (Holy Sino Empire)?
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>>2238131
holy shit. how do you even do that?

I'm setting up my sub sahran harem slave empire right now
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hmmm
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>Bavarian Nobles peaced out of their war with one of the Bavarias and is now an independent state
what the fuck
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I'm still having fun with CK3 and Stellaris, should I stick with those for now or drop my bucks on EU5 right away?
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>>2238059
There's a building limit? I assumed there wasn't since the menu just extends to a "..+X" when the space for icons fills up
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>>2236580
>>2236576
vassals should be good early on like you said it is historical and literally what feudalism is
they should just become less efficient later on as your state can effectively administrate a larger realm until ultimately becoming a problem
>>2236639
that's a good thing
they should have the potential to cause a crisis if you over rely on them early and then try to integrate them
it's a great framework imo i just hope they don't fuck up it
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Was there a nerf to culture conversion? Last week as Ottomans it went fairly easily. But today i'm converting like 10 peple per month with a stat 100 character.
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can we have general already or did the game die out in a week?
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>>2239112
/gsg/ retards will irreversibly shit it up if it ever becomes a general
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>ruler executed by some opm horde bordering my horde vassal
wtf
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This was the biggest fucking nothingburger, I don't think a single religious war was fought and it just gridlocked the empire into two huge coalitions
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Consolidate into the main EUV thread
>>2239130
>>2239130
>>2239130



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