Hearts of Iron IV / HOI4 ModdingCome and post your runs and talk about upcoming mods!The Suspicious Looking Frenchman
>>2225620I still don't get Red Flood. Game is supposed to be all about crazy paths, but the gameplay and the fluff seems vanilla-esque still
Did they fix TFR yet?
>>2225678No, people were posting evidence/testimonies from the Discord in the last thread that the new TFR patch needs to be completely redone. A simple hotfix isn't fixing the problems in it.
>>2225678Nah, It's still broken.>>2225745>people were posting evidence/testimonies from the Discord in the last thread that the new TFR patch needs to be completely redoneThe only 'evidence' posted was a literal who saying that, that guy isn't a dev.
>>2225762Then where's the hotfix? Why was there a massive announcement laying fault at the feet of the Rus team for their implosion?
>even reddit turned on TNO now and is starting to post things like thisimpressive how even their most die-hard fans hate them now
>>2225774>Then where's the hotfix?Fuck if I know, all I know is the guy who said that isn't a dev.>Why was there a massive announcement laying fault at the feet of the Rus team for their implosion?Because the Rus team fucked up by releasing a broken update, however it isn't all their fault. Somebody should have been checking in on them and checked their progress before announcing the update and releasing it.
>France/Britain in Kaiserreich are some of the oldest tags>offer some of the most fun gameplay>most recent update celebrates the inclusion of 200+ REAL LIFE SCIENTISTS wow and a rework of the Kaiserreich WIKI page! and skeleton content for Philippineswhat is with their priorities? ffs
>>2225797You should see EaW.>Equestria, Changeling Lands and Crystal Empire (this one specially) are archaic>tooze reworks for all of them, massive ones for CRY>tooze a lot of other things for a lot of other places, including a full rework of the Equestrian South East breakaways>update: "added literally whos for literally where. New portraits (that are worse than the previous ones)"
>>2225834I thought the changelings had a rework some time ago
Lenin´s legacy lives on!
>>2225996>Czar is bad! Decentralization is the way to go!>Wait, decentralization is bad! Czarism is the way to go!And you won't hear them once issue an apology.
More dev statements>>2226001Not what he said, retard
>>2226001>And you won't hear them once issue an apology.What are you talking about? They already apologized for the update launching completely broken.
My girlfriend loves this game
>>2226039>girlfriendYour "girlfriend" will never be a woman
>>2226026The real question is what were the testers doing if they didn't mention anything about missing loc and bugs. The blame should be entirely on them.
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>>2226055What are some HOI 4 mods that let me enact Total Goy Death or Total Goy Subjugation?
>>2226059Red flood, Yishuv -> Stern path
>>2226039how big is her gock :DDDDD
They really just updated the military tree to look like shit.
>>2226039anon's girlfriend:https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1762783050825248.mp4
>>2226087>>2226070>>2226064>>2226059>>2226055>>2226048>dumb chuds assuming her medical historyDrivers license says F, deal with it.
>>2226087Would.
>>2226026An apology for how they treated Czar I mean.
>>2226064Israel is just pbroken, ever since they changed the setup of Levant.
>>2226112Why the hell would they apologize to that retard? Dumb fuck almost killed the mod and did some satanist larp shit after getting ousted.
TFR >we're totally not a chud mod heh heh>Bukele is god-emperor of man and unites all of Central America under one bitcoin-freedom empire, cool!>Russia gets about 50 routes>China gets about 50 routes, and is OP as fuck>Fascist American factions are the most fleshed out>Only one leftist faction, and it's memed on/shitty>Biden, despite having enough mental faculties to run the fucking superpower of the world, is mocked by a ridiculous "mental health mechanic" that implies something is wrong with him>Trump, who constantly acts like he has brain damage, doesn't have this same mechanic>Trump's faction clearly has more thought put it into it and is more dynamic>France/Germany's communist routes are an afterthought, yet their fascist routes are meticulously worked with lots of paths, especially for France>Gadaffi's faction in the Libyan Civil War almost always wins without cheese, leading him to enforce the multipolar world on North Africa>Israel almost always loses without painstaking outside intervention>China always takes Taiwan despite their military being untested and a complete joke>the multipolar world in general is praised>U.N. is a joke meme tag that gets got by a bunch of fascist larpers in Florida>NATO essentially is non-existent and doesn't exert itself to save this dying world, no sudden intervention in the many civil wars throughout the world>Iran and her puppets always win their civil warsHow is this not a fucking rigged game for the Beijing-Moscow Axis?
Mod is broken and we'll have to wait weeks worth of hotfixes to become playable again, thanks ziggers !
>>2226142Nice copypasta.Biden was clearly senile by second term elections, he was wearing MAGA hats out of nowhere and saying weird stuff
>>2226157Not a copypasta. Biden was not senile by the second term elections. That was just a massive MAGA meme.
>>2226142>China isn’t leftist because they’re successful. Huh
Told you guys how to make a save of a mod without it updating, now I'm the only retard with a stable version of the mod
>>2226142>>Bukele is god-emperor of man and unites all of Central AmericaHonest to God I've never seen this happen, they always go leftist.
>>2225774They have been doing hotfixes
>>2226142Even if it was a chud mod? So what? So chuds got ONE mod, compared to libs that have every other mod.
>>2226001Do you happen to know what czar contributed to the mod content wise?
>>2226210Chud ideology is hateful and destroying human civilization?
>>2226225Promise?
>>2226225Liberal ideology is hateful and destroying human civilisation. As reactionary I will rather side with chuds.
OP is a stupid factor that should kill himself.>>2226142>>2226164Retarded bait posted by a retard.
>>2226233Fuck it, have a pic of the campaign too
>>2226224Leadership.
>>2226241Not an argument, just a hateful (surprise there) post by an angry chud who wants to see the West fall.
>>2226268i dont think intentionally trying to sabotage the team is leadership
>>2226299Holy shit he was such a fag, dude is acting like he's Light Yagami.
>>2226296Actually, we want to see the West live.Unfortunately, it's busy killing itself.
>>2226307Bro, he's literally Light Yagami from the hit Chinese cartoon "Death Note".
>>2226333Kek
>>2226109>>2226175I still believe that Bukele reviving the union is retarded.
>i-it's a chud mod>the main character is a funny chronically online austrian man who wants to destroy russia, china, india and nigeriahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V_RKhWfd5whow can you seriously look at this guy and thing "chud"?he's just about the least chuddy person in the world
>>2226307Pedo too going by Gio Scotti.Enough dramaniggery.
>>2226349the main characters of tfr are navalny and trumpi've played i think eight paths so far and i don't think i've ever even seen fehlingers name outside of this thread
>>2226384For the 2ACW I'd say the MC is a tossup between Trump, Rousseau, and Ma. Ma is mainly a contender because of his description.
>>2226384The main character of TFR is the player. :)
So did anyone play Chilean Antarctica?
>>2226384Rousseau has true MC energy unlike drumpf
>>2226403>because of his descriptionwhat do you mean? the modern world is his adversary part?
>>2225620TWO MORE WEEKS
>>2226443I'm a dumbass and posted the wrong toozer. >the modern world is his adversary part?Yeah the part about him intending not to lose and how even if he does fail he will make sure to leave his mark on history.
Mark your calendars for November 22nd, chuds
>>2226345Why ya posting uggos? I only fuck cute dickgirls, then I dump then when they get old and the male genes start to show up
>>2226473i like him but i can not desert my ersatz father figure Ted. Mike can be run 2. or more likely i'll try another ted path since it sounded like it could turn out differently after his death
>>2226474HOLY SHIT BASED
>>2226465Le Soleil is kill..No
>>2226486Le Killed
>>2226474Gunther vs Grisha when?
>>2226474was it burt or rousseau who started getting autistic and butthurt over their depicting in TFR? well at least gunther seems to be taking it better than the others
>>2226418Trump’s events and focus descriptions have more aura.
>>2226523burt was too boomer to complain properly, iirc rousseau used the fact that pf was depicted as propaganda about their supposedly increasing prominence
>>2226523Burt and Rousseau handled it well. Caleb Maupin was the one who didn’t like being in the mod.
>>2226523No, you’re thinking of Caleb Maupin. I don’t have the screenshots, but really did not like being in a war game.Burt was just mildly amused and Rousseau’s too busy controlling PF to play games (his words btw)
>>2226142US/Europe devs are chuds meanwhile China gets 50+ different flavors of Socialism/Left-Wing Nationalism
>>2226523Burt at first didn't really get it and then basically went "but they made me look badass right". Rousseau said he didn't play videogames and didn't care much. Neither chimped.
>>2226523Burt just had no clue of what hoi4 was and thought it was a cod mod. Reddit because catbox wasn't working.https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1nilp4p/boi/
>>2226701Who will play TFR with Burt?
>>2226701what the fuck happened to his hairline?shit looks more barren than Florida after an Attomwaffen take over
>>2226268"Into the ground" is, I guess, a valid place to lead something.
>>2226345why do you have that saved on your phone?
why does czar cause endless butthurt >HE WAS THE ANTICHRIST! HE WAS GOING TO DESTROY THE MOD AND REMOVE MY AWESOME CHINK AI PATH!HE'S A PEDOPHILE O9A MEMBER WHO WAS INTENTIONALLY SABOTAGING EVERYBODY CUZ.. CUZ HE'S EVIL!he's been gone for 3 months why care
>>2226786Because people like a boogieman. Fact is, when Czar was around, shit got done.
>>2226786>ButthurtHe's a historical lolcow.>>2226800Yeah, like banning most of the team for the lulz.
Why does OWB have so many submods? By far the most I've seen out of any of the major overhauls.
>>2226917Because base OWB doesn't have all of the US map, and the submods fill it
>>2226917it's a setting that allows for original characters to be included pretty easily without harming any real narratives.
>>2226917I imagine the unfilled map space makes the idea of making a submod more tantalizing.
>>2226695>>2226701Imagine his reactions if the /fit/ Burt path ends being released
>>2227219I NEED THIS
On Kaltkrieg, or: the Worst Mod for HoI4->Hi, Axolotl here. Since release, as people have noticed, there has been little activity. While we have been keeping up somewhat with new Hoi4 releases (mostly), it has been slow. To be honest, the team has struggled since release. The team has had general issues with motivation, an issue that was apparent before release but that has only been exacerbated since. By now, new development of content has halted almost entirely. I myself have been doing the bulk of maintenance work, but being only one person, it takes a toll on you.>Why activity and motivation dropped can be attributed to many factors. Before release, it was mostly simple life stuff. However, after release, the feedback and criticism the mod received took a huge toll on people. I’m not saying that the criticism was unfounded. I do agree with some of it—mostly the more constructive ones—and we will discuss later on what we are trying to address. However, since the feedback was so overwhelming for people, having dedicated so many hours only to see a barrage of criticism, it put a damper on morale. That is why we have written this progress report to unpack what we think about all this and what our thoughts for the future are.Posted three months ago, with the last post in their community being two months ago.
>>2225785It is Reddit's natural cycle to adopt the opposite to 4chan for a while until they cave in and realize we were right all along then pretend they came up with it.
>>2225797The teams work in parallel, and you can't force people to work on something they're not interested in.
>>2227280Reddit literally is the primary opposition force to the Trump administration right now, and will go down in history as the guerrilla forces against authoritarianism. It should have been the Democrats, but unfortunately the Democrats in Congress have proven themselves more akin to the liberals in the Weimar Republic - ineffectual.
>>2227285>you can't force people to work on something they're not interested inThis happens all the time in the real world, anon. I've had to work on numerous projects I wasn't particularly interested in. It's as simple as assigning a project to a team and expecting results from that team, else team leaders get replaced.
>>2227289It's a volunteer mod project, they'll just quit.
>>2227294It's discord clout for them to be working on a major project. They won't quit, and they're easily replaceable if they do.
>>2227297Good luck with that.
>>2227297This is the kind of micromanaging that killed TNO while KR puts out 2-3 decent updates a year.
>>2227300>has never been a project lead in his life>>2227301Not micromanaging, if there's a major update that's needed and a glaring hole in the mod, you fill in that hole ASAP. You don't work on bullshit like special projects or a 2nd ACW rework that nobody asked for. You can let people have their special interests, but first you satisfy the needs of the mod than let the desires of a handful of fags rule everything.
>>2227309>not micromanaging >you WILL work on this or you WILL be replaced!
>>2227314>what is managingNot every instance of management is micromanagement, anon.
>>2227309Fork KR mod and try to walk the talk. Lets see how many people sign up to work for you.
>>2227317what if you're under 5'11?
>>2227321That's why you put 6'2" - 6'5", INTJ men who currently have a dominant-submissive/master-slave relationship with their girlfriends, with them as the dominant/master, in charge of projects. Preferably someone with a voice that can exert his will onto others, like the Dune Voice. You guarantee a confident male who can analyze what is necessary and carry out important tasks, and lead men through the trenches of modding.>>2227320>just show up like a lone gunman and convince half the mod team to abandon shipNo, it doesn't work like that. And it would take years of networking and positioning to become project lead. These posts are meant for current projects to understand that they don't have to pussyfoot around devs' special interests. They're in charge for a reason, and they should be delegating tasks that benefit the whole of the mod, not fucking... Newfoundland.
>>2227297>Easily replacedOutright mental illness. You can't replace skilled coders, writers etc with randoms. I work on a team and sometimes do shit I don't like, but I do it because they're my friends and I want to help them out and because I care about the community that plays our mod. But if you just force people do do shit they don't care about at all like it's a job you'll bleed talent and end up with soulless shit. If you want to know what that looks like, look at TNO and tell me how they've benefited from having a grand total of one release this year that wasn't an Antarctica event chain made by a submodding team.
>>2227345>they don't have to pussyfoot around devs' special interestsThey do or the mod dies from lack of interested modders. This is proven in the current HOI4 modding landscape.
>>2227346You can easily replace writers, absolutely. Skilled coders are codemonkeys who will code what you want them to code. >force people to do shit they don't care about at allAlmost everyone who's on the modding team should have an interest in history and can be put to work developing any country. If he can develop Romania or some bullshit, then he can develop Italy. Nobody is going to be "b-but I only have a specific interest in history, and that's Romanian alt-history in 1936-1940, beyond that I just have no interest in history whatsoever and will provide a shit workproduct...." It's a fantasy thinking people operate like this.
>>2227350>This is proven in the current HOI4 modding landscape.Give me an example of a released mod with clout that died because of this. TNO didn't die because of this. If anything, the fucks in charge of their various countries have too much special interest in their countries (hence all the push for "realism").
>>2227351>You can easily replace writers, absolutely. Skilled coders are codemonkeys who will code what you want them to code.you have no idea what you are talking about
>>2227353>TNOWhen the last content update since Guangzhou (which was a special interest by that subteam)?
>>2227357>you can't just a replace an ideas guy, they're too invaluableThis is what you sound like. Writers are a dime-a-dozen in the Paradox community.
>>2227351All I'm getting out of this is that you'd be a fucking awful mod lead and that you're the kind of person that'd drive projects into the ground. You'd drive away talent and the fact that you don't even seem to understand what a turnover rate can do for a team really speaks volumes as of how little of a clue you have. You also don't even seem to understand why people are calling you retarded, either that or you're deliberately trying to muddy the water with nonsensical examples that evade the problem that you have a very corporate and soulless approach to this.
>>2227372>Gets told that alienating talent is bad>Handwaves it away by talking about do-nothing idea guysUtter retardation.
>>2227386>what is leadership>ANON THAT SOUNDS GAY just let people like... chill, smoke weed, relax breh, work on their own shit? maybe?
>>2227393>alienating talentYou purposely being obtuse? You keep making it seem like I'm suggesting project leads scream at people and act like Captain Sobel. I'm saying the lead should be like Winters and make people want to work on projects important to the mod, not allow them to run around working their special interests only.
>>2227396Yeah, no point in talking to your retarded ass if you're just going to make the world's stupidest strawman every time your faults get pointed out to you. Hope you never get anywhere near a leadership position because you'd be just as terrible as whoever it is that's running TNO into the ground right now.
>>2227386He treats it like a Amazon dev manager. Runs soulless, high turnover team that can only do basic coding because no high talent retention. Survives off hiring new grads joining because Amazon "clout". Then wonders why his team gets outsourced to India.
>>2227403>Panzer was a horrible leader>why didn't he just allow his team to release Croatia, Mexico, and Indonesia, rather than Germany-USA-Japan on TNO's release?
>>2227406>making someone do something that's for the good of the mod means they'll make it soullessI don't think you've ever worked on something in your life.
>>2227413>"Making" someone work on something they don't want to, on a volunteer-based mod>We'll survive turnover because discord clout, everyone's lining up to join our modReality says otherwise.
>>2227417You're putting a lot of negative spins on the word "making" and "something they don't want to." Telling someone their next project is to rework France, for example, =! pointing a gun at his head and forcing him to eat shit.
>>2227424>tell China KR team they're going to work on France>they say no>tell them they must >they quitWhat do?
>>2227433According to that anon's logic, there's a massive pool of highly skilled coders and writers apparently bowling over themselves waiting to join the discord to work on whatever the mod team wants.China team quits? Just get another.
>>2227481He doesn't get it.If there were masses of talent willing to work on any tag for discord clout then we would've already have them working on the mod.
>>2227353>Give me an example of a released mod with clout that died because of this you got me there! the only real example I know is TNO where "project leaders" and "head devs" enforced strict top down discipline and killed the mod. But the only reason I can think of only one mod killed by this is because your retarded philosophy is such a quick way to kill any mod that all of the ones that implement it never release LOL>This is what you sound like. Writers are a dime-a-dozen in the Paradox community. Not talking about writers im talking about coders. Coders especially skilled ones are invaluable in this community.
good mods which has focus tree(s) for Southeast Asia?
>>2227517>Not talking about writers im talking about coders. Coders especially skilled ones are invaluable in this community.nayrt but it could apply to writers, designers and all other key areas.>Guangdong gfx team VS some hack that just looked at his first tutorial>Experienced writers that can weave together strong narratives VS someone that barely knows how to string together a sentence>Someone that can design a well-paced focus tree with good effects VS 10x 70 day focuses about giving you 100 PPYou can have a million coders but if you tell them to code something that's utter crap it'll still be utter crap even if the code is great. I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just reinforcing your point: skilled people can't be replaced easily. Coders are the most important piece of the puzzle but as the saying goes there's no "I" in "team" and a lot of things have to come together at the end of the day.
>>2227502You know the mods don't actively recruit anymore, right? The big mods. They make posts when they're actively recruiting.
>>2227684Because the quality of recruits is low.Most people start work then ghost.
I hope we get unique endgames for Christian Identity and Order of Nine Angles AWD in the future, I've heard that it's been considered. But I don't think it's ever been officially confirmed to be in the works/planned.
>>2227690It's because they've decided they're "full enough." You keep moving goalposts.>You: but anon, they just CAN'T fire a whole team, b-because there's no one to replace them>me: They're not actively recruiting; they're not trying to recruit>You: "b-because recruits all suck! baka!!"A good team would recruit ad nauseum, never stopping, always expanding, replacing burned out/disloyal/members who refuse to work on assigned projects with new recruits who are trained by more active, experienced devs. But mods seem (1) to get into a complacent funk, and (2) none of them seem well-managed/led, given that so few of them can produce worthwhile updates. The big mods with 500k+ subscribers don't have a recruitment problem.
