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What Paradox game should I play if I just want to engage in imperialism and making buffer states? Victoria?
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>>2256297
EU5
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>>2256297
EU5, bar none.
Certain mods to Darkest Hour (as long as they use the detailed map) are close second.
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>>2256297
It has a lot of limits. Diplo system is so unpredictable they let you get achievements without playing ironman because you can never tell if the british empire will side with one adrican village you are trying to puppet
Anyway you should wait a few months, they let a lot of modders from victoria 2 in this year that are adding a lot of good content.
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>>2256895
eu5 is a terrible game if you want to do immersive imperialism. Right now it gets extremely hollow 150 years into the game when imperialism starts to happen. Victoria 2 or one of the eu4 mods made by the same people who made eu5 are better
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>>2261173
I will say that playing as a British Dominion in kino in Vic3 (Canada, South Africa, Australia) because even though you're a vassal you can still do your own thing and get to benefit from being in the British market
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>>2261173
>you can never tell if the british empire will side with one adrican village you are trying to puppet
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashoda_Incident
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>>2261173
Here is the (You) you were after
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>>2262996
>we almost got WW1 16 years early because of some random African shithole
Grim.
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>>2263665
>I slept during history classes
The period between 1880 till 1914 was effectively everyone and their dog doing their very best to not turn a random border skirmish into a global war.
Ultimately, it was officially about a complete shithole on Austro-Serbian border, so hardly an improvement.
Also, that war starting pre-smokeless ammo and machine guns would be COMPLETELY different, and wouldn't turn into such a grindfest. Maxim didn't even get his gun deployed and tested on natives until 1886 and it wasn't until mid-1890s armies even started to entertain the idea of buying those. And then it was another couple years before those were re-designed, re-worked and produced in actual quantity.
So yeah, "early start" would actually made this war play out more or less how everyone planned and prepared. Especially since Russians would have their army still armed with trapdoor rifles pre-1900 (Mosin mass implementation was painfully slow).
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>>2265643
Wasnt 1905 a massive wake up call for russia.
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>>2265668
The wake-up call was the 1891-92 famine.
They did nothing.
So by 1905, they've got a fistfull of revolts, while their army and navy was pounded into nothing by Nips
All the top dogs should be glad the whole thing didn't come down in 1905, rather than 1917
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>>2265668
Tsarist Russia, especially after the combo of Springtime of Nations and the Crimean War, was in the state of constant arrested development. They knew what was fucked up, they knew what reforms they need... and they never implemented them, instead doubling-down on doing retarded shit that made situation only worse, because oh shit, the world will end if we reform, we must maintain the traditions and traditional order of things, even if we see this doesn't work at fucking all. The end result was the same as with all the Asian countries (sic!) of the era, where traditionalist clique would rather cling to their waning power than fix the country they rule over. Except Ruskies didn't have the excuse of being a country with medieval-era technology, but had the pretense of being a great power.
I guess some things never change, especially not east of Elbe
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>>2265643
I'm sorry I'm not a glorious Englishman or Frenchman whose glorious ancestors were colonizing half the globe. I'm sorry I'm just a lowly Slav whose history lessons about this time period were all variations of
>and then those pesky Hungarians decided to fuck us over for the 274th time that year alone
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>>2265988
Jebem ti matere, excuses, excuses, everyone who is interested in history studies it on their own time. By god, I hate the world so much.
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>>2256297
Paradox games aren't particularly about imperialism.
Europa is risk but with more numbers
Victoria is a socialist factory builder
Imperator is considered dead
Stellaris is also risk but with more numbers
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>>2283148
>Europa is risk but with more numbers
the victory conditions for both games makes the comparison very inappropriate
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>>2283148
>territory usually called Ukraine in this game labelled as Russia
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>>2283200
Russians and Ukrainians are brother nations, and it is a Western psyop to turn them on each other.
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>>2283200
>Afghanistan territory doesn't even have Afghanistan in it
>Northern Europe is actually central Europe
>Mongolia has Manchuria and Northern China in it
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>>2283205
Last time I've checked, if your brother was trying to murder you, you were calling the cops and trying not to die, not getting stabbed to death.
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>>2284932
The cops are busy saving Israel from Palestinian empire
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>>2284943
israel seems to be doing fine
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>>2283200
>person usually called kike in this life labelled as human
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>>2283200
And if you called it Ukraine, people would laugh about Russia getting conquered by Ukraine. Realistically speaking, that region should probably be called Eastern Europe, in the same way "Northern Europe" is called Northern Europe and not Germany or Poland.
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>>2283200
Ukraine wasn't a country until Russia invaded it for real and this game board was likely printed a decade before then.
>>2283240
>Ontario has US states
>GB has Ireland
>Ceylon but no Newfoundland
>africa-to-latinx america is considered swimmable
>SEA countries are teamed up with Australia
>New Zealand fell off the edge of the flat earth
>the US annexed Greenland
There are just so many choices that have been made on this map.
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>>2285605
>GB has Ireland
Definitely based.hhpx4m



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