An F in chat for those /mbg/ bros who were rejected.>M&B Wikihttps://antifandom.com/mountandblade/wiki/Mount_&_Blade_Wiki> BANNERLORD>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/tAvcAbpT>Custom Banner Makerhttps://bannerlord.party/banner/>Banner Code Sharinghttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MEM-0Fz0yetJ8cZgLrPpHuDU6dO33bhsFiHsiWwiCDM>Asset Extractorhttps://github.com/szszss/TpacTool>Create Custom Companionshttps://butterlord.com/wanderers> WARBAND>Warband Pastebinhttps://rentry.org/x7u7t>Noob Guide (READ This) https://imgur.com/a/FMAqV>Anon's Mods and Upstab Guide: https://pastebin.com/agwZu9Df>Thread(looted): >>2210724
>Game before ships>Sturgia survives 9 out of 10 games>Game after ships>Sturgia is 2nd faction to go down right after Battania
Did anyone make a Crusader kings-esque mod with unhinged features like>You can marry your family like daughter or sister.>You can marry very underage characters. Everything above 8 is game.>You can now worship Satan and it will make all the kingdoms instantly hate you.>You can force your people into cannibalism.>You can have children serve in your army.And the likes...
>>2270458Sturgia and Northern Empire have shared being the second to fall for many patches.I remember having debates about why Sturgia gets its shit kicked in all the time back when /mbg/ was on /vg/
>>2270465I guess every game needs its Swadia.
>>2270465>Sturgia is inconveniently shaped>Sturgian troops aren't that goodSame as the Vaegirs desu.
>>2270496>Sturgian troops aren't that goodThat's completely irrelevant to autoresolve.One of the reasons might be that most lords in Sturgia despise the ruling family and so cost a lot more to call to war and are more likely to defect, but I honestly don't have any idea about their actual relations besides what the lore is.
>>2270496I don't fully understand what makes Srug troops so weak, at least their inf and noble cav. On paper they look like they should be fine but obviously something doesn't translate into gameplay. The only thing I can think of is it being the weapons for the heavy inf? I was never too impressed with axes and spears are just complete dogshit in this game.>Sturgia is inconveniently shapedFunnily enough this got worse with War Sails splitting their nation in two, forcing them to sail between their constituent parts.
>>2270460You won't believe what we lost.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkjR3Fw-pgc
>>2270507Axes are great, or at least they were way back in the beta when I played captain mode and got a real good feel for what worked and what didn't.Axes were good for the AI because they nearly always do a downwards chop and the short range means it nearly never gets stuck in an ally, I even took the base axes over the sword perk the sturgian infantry got.
>>2270305its been a very long time since i did this. is it an "xml" file somewhere?>>2270229let me know if there's enough interest and i'll upload this troop tree. i can share some screenshots if you guys wanna see
>>2270458Shame really. I like the sturgian aesthetic.
A sea raider just killed my sister...I didn't even know she was participating in the sea battle, I just suddenly heard a female scream, saw someone fall to the water, and I noticed her name with the red skull...
>Nearly 3000 troops besieging a city with 800-man garrison>Go down during assault>We win>Defenders are holed up in the keep>Send a stack of Huskarls in there to clear them out>Lose auto-resolve>This means you now lost the siege>This means the 40 dickheads in the keep have now taken the entire 3000-man besieging force captiveWhat a fantastically stupid oversight
>100 vland cong hardened crossbowmen hiding in the snowy forest that chunk your HP in realistic diffiuclty>20 hitscan fire ballista galleys behind every rock in the estuary that can OHKO you while you're steering your shitty little trading cogThis mission is no joke lmao
>>2270567Yeah, I had to do that one twice. They actually burned down the whole ship for me the first time.>that chunk your HP in realistic diffiucltyDespite playing on max difficulty, I've been taking a whole lot less damage than usual the whole game, did they rebalance it? Maybe the way armor works?
>>2270567My ship caught on fire and was sinking when I made it to the end
>>2270567yeah it's a tough one try to hug the sides and tokyo drift past the rocks after using them as cover
I hate that perk systems in video games went from being icing on top of the main progress system, to being half the progress system. Perks in Bannerlord are mostly bloat existing just to justify the perk system.
>>2270512>bullied by cordies>dev ceased>persona burntwhy do people even make shitcords for their projects, surely everyone knows by now that it's just a hotbed of drooling morons and powerhungry trannies. If you're that desperate for acknowledgement just record an unscripted devlog every half a year and post on yidtube.
>>2270564hey, what happens to the AI now happens to you too
>>2270575did you pick realistic difficulty in a previous patch and continued the save?i found that dmg to player was set to 1/4th or something after a beta patch.
>>2270512damn that mod is exactly what I wanted. crusader kings is cool but I dont want to just imagine battles I want to see them at least a little bit like in stellaris
When will you all learn that Zoana is best girl?
>>2270660No, I started a new save for this. Really did feel as if it was set to 1/4th despite me picking hardest difficulty. I was surviving many blows that in the previous patch would have oneshot me.
>>2270669is she Lucon's daughter?
>>2270672There's probably a hidden modifier on story missions to make em less annoying
is there any bannerlord mod that plays like dickploamazon?
>>2270690That's what I thought until I did finish the story and it was still the case. That's also why I said it might have been a rebalancing of armor calculations, since you do end up that story with a fair big of armor, not like you do when you start completely clean, and it could have chained from story damage reduction > armor damage reduction.Or maybe my game just bugged out.
What should I do with the wave steed?
How is Mount&Blade considered strategy? In what fucking way?Because you press the [hold] and [charge] hotkeys in every action skirmish???Belongs to /vrpg/ but we have no fucking moderation here anyway.
I don't plan on buying the DLC, how much did they fuck with the base game? I'm hoping a lot of the retarded new features like forced stealth in bandit hideouts are DLC-specific.
>>2270685Yeah and Lucon is the true Emperor.
Why is it that vlandia starts at war with two kingdoms but never loose a single fiefdom?
>>2270756is this an old pic of her?i remember her being pretty but can't exactly recall her face.https://mountandblade.fandom.com/wiki/Zoana?file=Zoana.PNG
>>2270750
>>2270753>forced stealth in bandit hideoutsvanilla addition. you can send in your troops instead.>how much did they fuck with the base game?the encyclopedia is fucked. it's almost unplayable for now unless you like to torture yourself.
>>2270775>you can send in your troops instead.Can't attack it yourself with your picked team, so they fucked it up.
>>2270809oh i forgot the worst part.you lose keep battles more often if you autoresolve them and lose your entire army.at least you can't lose when sending in your troops to clear the hideouts.
>>2270775>>2270809Good to know. I'll stick with my current version and just keep playing The Old Realms.
>>2270750Nah you can order your units to go to specific places and do specific things so the battles qualify as RTS. And the overworld is an RTT so it's actually 2 strategy games in one. And yes, it does also qualify as RPG, action-adventure, and FPS. That's why you're mad - it mogs your favorite games.
>>2270512>>2270640>>2270662Crusader Blade is back in development (allegedly). The dev re-opened the discord but hasn't given anything concrete. Just that he's back developing it.
>>2270853They might as well wait until both games (CK3 and Bannerlord) are finished. How many years did Warband get updates after release? That should tell you how much we will have to wait.
how do i deal with horse archers as pure nord
>Just waiting for one marriage mod to update and then I can play War Sails>Modder taking their time with the updateMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANAlso why isn't it in vanilla that I can choose which specific clan member to marry my child off to? Why does it default to the oldest available clan member? Don't offer my 18yo child a 58yo spouse!
>>2270858>They might as well wait until both games (CK3 and Bannerlord) are finished.Well CrusaderBlade did actually work years ago, the dev just got burned out and stopped updating it (and later deleted it over some e-drama). No one knows exactly what he did because he won't release the source code, but it's definitely possible, so waiting until both games are done isn't even really necessary. IIRC it was the frequent CK3 updates that necessitated most of the work.
>>2270866only fight in sieges
>choose "surrender or die" dialogue option when speaking to the enemy leader>they don't surrender>act surprised when I behead them after thw battle>somehow it is considered "not keeping your word" and all nobles hate me nowAlso war sails has broken sturgia (in half), so all of their nobles can be killed in sea becauss they have 1 shittiest boat each and arabs (same issue, less prominent) Also there is no reason to use boats unless you have mariner units (which is tier 6 for most factions) because they suck otherwise
>>2270883>dev just got burned out and stopped updating itAnd that's the problem with mods and these long development cycles. Games get updates for decades these days, it fucking sucks. You are playing on dev time, not your own. It's why I sort of prefer to wait until games are abandoned, finally, in a sense "released" finally, so you can play it and mods in peace. Not that they still not fuck with you sometimes, like how Todd fucks with Fallout and Skyrim ever so often, but Bannerlord is on GoG, so you can have it offline, which is neat, but need to back shit up yourself. This shit made not get excited about new "releases" because I know they will be messing with the game for YEARS anyway.
Sturgia and Nordvyg are in a stalemate. Just capturing two castles and nothing else.
>>2270277Maybe I haven't played enough, but I don't really feel like there's much of a difference between all the ships. Visually yeah, I like the Aserai ones the most, and probably Empire is my #2.
>>2270458Really? I mean I haven't played vanilla in a long time, but back when I did, Sturgia was always, literally 100% of the time the first one to be destroyed. >>2270866Seconding. I was hoping heavy shield infantry with throwing weapons would do decently against them, but clearly the shield coverage isn't enough to protect them well during their throws, and the fact that they only get 1 stack of shitty low range axes instead of proper javelins doesn't help either.
>>2269694as far as I know, the first perk is the only one needed.
>>2270866square formation and wait for them to run out of arrows
>>2270927fuck I meant >>2269701
>>2269701I think Medicine is a great skill overall, but I only really take it myself if I commit 100%, because that final perk is insane. If you're not going to get all the way to it, just get a companion.
What kinds of troops do you usually make if you use custom troop tree mods? Do you go with some sort of a theme, or have preferred weapons/troop types you tend to go for?
>it's been 5 years, time to check out Bannerlord again>oh boy same exact character creation with schizophrenic stat spread >might as well do the tutorial>5 years later, swings from the horseback still go above enemies every other time>when they don't, every looter in the vicinity turns to face me and blocks the swing, I remember why horse archer is the main playstyle now>can barely see during the hideout attack it's dark as fuck>can actually tell Radagos to eat shit when he asks for a duel now, first improvement I've seen so far>the scene where I'm talking to my brother is pitch black, except for the trees far awayNot impressed so far
>>2270866Shield infantry in a squareArchers behind and to the side of infantry
>>2270967The missing swings on cavalry is 100% a skill issue. And the game is kinda buggy right now due to a big patch for DLC that changed a lot
>>2270987>swingsShould be using polearms on horseback.
>>2270994nothing wrong with glaives or 2 handed melee weapons on horsebacklances are terrible in sieges, also suck if terrain doesn't favor cavalry or you have cav heavy army, you won't charging with raised lance that much
>>2270858>How many years did Warband get updates after releaseNone of those were updates of any substance.
>>2271021Yes, but I think they did break mods, so it still matters. Warband came out in what, 2010? And last patch was in 2018, I believe. Which means Bannerlord has years left of this meddling bullshit.
>>2271024Did they? You can run M&B 1.011 mods on warband and all you get is some script errors on the overmap.
>>2271025Eh, maybe, I forget. But I imagine it could buggy, some shit not working properly. But with Bannerlord it's worse, it breaks more. Only good thing is that you can use a bunch of mods at once.
The new voice acting feels like ai
luv me huscarls
>>2271030Novice voice acting with no good direction often does
>>2271066shouldn't battanians be in france? they seem more like gauls or something
How good are 1h maces? I'm starting a new run and I'm torn on doing 2h axe + bow or 1h mace + shield + javelins. Never really done either option before, cause I'm usually a total swordfag.
>>2271069they are actually galatians/irish
the last hotfix completely broke stealth and now the tutorial stealth mission cannot be completedwow i love turks!!!!!
>>2271070I don't think they're particularily good, and mostly useless from horseback. But you know how it is, it might be more fun to use the underpowered options.2h axe + bow is a fantastic combo though, 2h axes in general are great, since they can cleave, and bow is obviously the strongest thing in the game
>>2271074lollmao even
>>2270640Can I get a qrd on whatever drama there was with that mod?
>>2270669>ZoanaFirst of all, too oldSecond of all she is already pregnant by 1086 that means if you meet her after that, you are a cuck.
>>2271099All right then, let me introduce you this cutie, fresh out of the oven 1 year into the game.
>>2271066>Meanwhile, Spain getting divided between 4 different cultures:
>a would-be successful siege euthanized because king decided to start a feastWow I'm so glad I'm not missing out on this incredible feature like those bannerlord sissies :^) damn it feels so good to play this 20 year old game which does everything better than its sequelbannerlord trash amirite
>>2271140On one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, look... Nothing says Medieval times more than a would be history changing event gets completely cucked because King Retardius Incompetis IV decides to screw everyone in the last minute.
OP hits on a personal note, on my first playthrough I did all the shit and then got that exact line from my choice of future wife, and the taleworld forums were like "well you are supposed to save scum" and I was like thats bad game design and so im just fucked now? thanks, good game.im a bit angry right now, thanks to the constant new crashes
>>2271188No, you're supposed to give her dad 10 noble mounts for her hand in marriage, dumbass westerner
>>2271140Someone's mad
What features does Warband with DLC have that Bannerlord hasn't?
>>2271140There is literally no reason why the sequel couldn't just implement the mechanic while fixing these sort of issues. Nobody is saying they need to work in the same exact way.
>>2271194what part of dont start with me aren't you glowies getting today.when you show up for 5 seconds again later and point headlights at me like thats supposed to scare me im going to brick your car this time
>>2271153To a degree. No medieval king just woke up one day in a siege camp tent and was like, yeah fuck it let's go throw a party instead
>>2271255This, they threw a party after a victorious siege and then got destroyed
>>2271140Feasts would be ok, but they are for sure not as needed. Things from mods, like more diplomacy, succession types are more important.
>>2271289sexa
>>2271289What's the matter? Can't handle a strong nord woman?
>>2271273That I fully agree with, but it just proves my point that all the "warband is better" arguments are disingenuous because they compare pure vanilla bannerlord (which is still WIP by the way) to a heavily modded warband supported by decades of community work. Modded bannerlord still mogs modded warband but nostalgia dickriders prefer not to admit that
>>2271327Yeah, only problem. TW's shit updates break mods. I guess this update at least added something good (but fucked with other shit too much, like hideouts), but if they keep fucking about it might mean some mods will not get updates and get abandoned.They need to fuck off from the game and work on a new one, desu. It's been 5 years since release already anyway.
>>2271327>Modded bannerlord still mogs modded warbandI like bannerlord, but this is completely and utterly false. The sheer variety and amount of mods as well the size of them mog anything bannerlord has hard. There's not a single mod for Bannerlord that even comes close to the amount of content stuff like Warsword Conquest, 1257AD or Perisno have, and there's like a dozen more mods of that magnitude for Warband.
>>2271345the gap is closing rapidly and I will argue that Bannerlord equivalent of these mods are better put together>Warsword ConquestPoorly put together troop trees, Arenas are clusterfuck (some are stupidly long, others have archer nests placed so high you will get turned into pincushion by the time you get there), retarded shit like infinite dodge unit or one hit kill undead unit, magic is just you throwing exploding rock>Old RealmsClass system with restrictions(No ManDamsel of the Lady here), proper magic animations and system, siege weapons on the field, tournaments have objectives not just a moshpit, proper necromancyShokuho is getting as wellthe only mods that make Warband unique are the heavy narrative ones like The Last Days(LoTR) and Aut Caesar aut nihilPerisno and PooP are just army blob wank
>>2271327>which is still WIP by the wayBannerlord had an official release in 2022. If you're going to be disingenuous like that, we might as well count VC as part of Warband's dev cycle and it's not exactly looking in your favour.>Modded bannerlord still mogs modded warbandOk. What are those mods? Several dozen ad hoc plugins you smashed together in a mod list that will never form a cohesive whole? Less than a dozen released total conversions, almost all of which are as basic as Warband modding bottom feeder of>Diplomacy + Freelancer with a changed map and factionsat best?
>>2271360I won't tolerate PoP slander that mod has more soul than all of Bannerlord's mod repository put together.
>>2271360>TLD>heavily narrativeYou should stop smoking whatever Taleworlds are sending you.
>tfw the green screens and freezes i used to get all that time ago that i fixed with underclocking my rx580 were probably caused by my failing PSUi hope i didn't permanently damage my toaster because bannerlord is nowhere near finished and i don't want to upgrade twice.
>>2270866the AI can't deal with multiple enemy formations.hold fire and pincer them.
>>2271378compared to other mods which have nothing beyond>Lord Cockmonger has invaded Fecalistanyes, it has focused narrative>>2271370PooP
Anyone else have a glitch where they can't launch Bannerlord through Steam? I have to go into the install folder and launch the executive from the Win64_Shipping_Client folder otherwise it instantly closes.
Talking about how much better Bannerlord is than warband (for the upteenth time) when a dlc just came out just sounds like you're coping hard
>>2271411works on my toaster
>>2271418Don't make me post the steam stats
>it doesn't crashpraise be Calradios
>>2271418For me it is better, but frankly, this is the good time to return to Warband, considering shit is bugged, broken, mods need fixing and so on.
>steam charts of a nearly 20 year old non steam game Nevermind you're 100% coping>>2271440I don't hate Bannerlord, but i think how TW completely mishandled the game across the board is tragic. It sounds like the dlc and subsequent patches are just continuing the trend of fans having to wrestle with the devs' ineptitude. Sounds like naval battles are fun however.
>RBM might work sooncool beansif by some miracle Fourberie modder wakes up then I am pretty much set
Man I love battania
>>2271561how the fuck did they managed to make Vlandia even more OP
>>2271069They're a Gaelic/Gaulic hybrid. Mostly Gaelic.
>>2271140>things that didn't happen: the postwarband isn't even 20 years old.
Any new mods updated in the past 24h? I want hotkeys but unfortunately that mod hasn't been updated since 2020..
>>2271567dunno what the fuck you're supposed to do here. Maybe I should join them and give their king the dragon banner?
>>2271586I strongly recommend you refrain from discussing things you have had zero experience with. Applies to anything, not just videogames or warband.
>>2271567>>2271593They start with the second largest amount of fiefs (Aserai have one more castle, but are way more spread out) and the most noble families of any faction at 11, meaning more troops. All the cards are stacked in their favor. I have no idea how you nerf that without radically changing the game/world design.
>>2271593you are supposed to kill the vlandian scum, that's what you are supposed to do
>>2270504>That's completely irrelevant to autoresolve.It is - they get shitty match-up in autoresolve, too. Units aren't just tied by their tiers, but what they are. Sturgia has shit-tier range units and that makes them fucked in auto, too
>>2271620Just reduce the number of nobles or fiefs? Seems really easy. Or perhaps make all their fiefs start with much less prosperity than baseline, explain it as consequences of some disease outbreak just two years prior to game start
>>2271237>real courtship instead of rngshit>right to rule>renown decay>interactions with lords; warning them about danger, suggesting a course of action, solving disputes or joining them, dueling lords to uphold a lady's honor and of course, F E A S T S>all lords being candidates in votes>ability to convince them to change their mind about their vote>starting as a nobody>lords' disputes lowering realm unity and making them fuck off to do their own things instead of answering summonstldr; lords in warband felt like people.
>>2271635I'd make it harder for the Vladians to form armies.
>>2271647Some of that shit was annoying. And no, they did not feel like people, it was barebones, and it was not the stuff I played the game for.
>>2271632Got a source for that?
>>2271660>Some of that shit was annoyingherding cats was kino>let's cut the feature entirely instead of expanding it
>>2271660It was barebones but it was enough to make it feel like they had some basic forms of personality/agenda. Instead of expanding on that in Bannerlord, TW went backwards. The clan system in its current form has a lot to do with it imo.People always talk about feasts needing a comeback and there'd be an easy way to actually make them worthwhile to attend by rebranding them as some sort of semi-regular gathering or parliament of nobles during which laws are proposed. That way you could actually lobby nobles to support a new law or the revocation of a current one. It'd make that whole system a little more engaging.
>>2271668It's not what I play the game for tho ;_;
>>2271668Next you'll say you enjoyed the cattle herding mechanic every mod removed as well
>>2271674what do you play the game for if not for lord life simulator?
>>2271679NTA but I play the game for real time combat and strategic conquests. If I wanted to tardwrangle a dozen badly coded NPCs I'd go back to crusader kings
>>2271676i liked that cattle played an important role if you wanted to go deep into enemy territory and cause some trouble without raiding villages.food wasn't as easy to hoard as in bannerlord.>>2271681sovllessm&b is about bringing the best genres together.there is no fun in battle, strategy and conquest without love, political power and intrigue.
>>2271679For the blading on the mounts, and the warbanding and bannerlording.
>>2271679le heckin epic battles and eSports, as intended by TaleWorlds Entertainment
>>2271694Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>2271694Nah, for me it's bandit hunting and walking around cities and castles simulator. And fucking prostitutes with Hot Butter.
married a gigachad max height strong-jawed cutie today and she instantly popped out twins. also getting close to perfect gear but lordly/legendary of the best body armor doesn't seem to want to spawn
>>2271689Even then I had more enjoyment with the bannerlord clan system (with marriages and heirs and stuff) than those warband lord interactions that get very stale very quick. Lords of the same personality type being functionality identical didn't help either, bannerlord splitting personality into different traits is a certain improvement, too bad they didn't really add any mechanics to make use of them
I wish the game let us marry them when they are still young and fertile.
does anyone know of any bannerlord clans for events i can join?
>>2271733Is the MP scene even alive? Warband had such a great community and range of servers but that never kicked off in quite the same manner in Bannerlord and I haven't even touched that part of the game since launch.
>you have to buy the DLC to update the map
>>2271753Wait, how does the map look like without the DLC, completely old one? Or just with the north cut off?If it's the old one that would explain why tards forgot to change lore descriptions for towns.
>>2271757haven't played Bannerlord in years so I couldn't tell
>>2271759Yeah, that's more or less the old map. This is fucking weird.
In warband, how do I make a troop taller and smaller than normal? Please don't tell me I need to assign a separate body model
>>2271767taller or* smaller of course
>>2270866Pike and shot tactics>Maneuver reserve archers to side where charge is>put throwing weapon skirmishers in front to bleed infantry
>>2271736>Warband had such a great community and range of servers i reminisce about how great warband mult used to be like a 90 year old boomer and have a undying hatred for TW
Any Vasnar enjoyers here? What do I do with these books, Hallowed Tome and Ancient Tome? Is there someone I can turn them in or should I just sell it to any vendor?
>>2271785I tried it again after getting a bit of a nostalgic longing for the good old days, but unfortunately the few servers that are still alive only have a handful of players at most and they're all extremely cracked which just led to me dying to the same few guys repeatedly until I got bored.
I'm already rich and there's really not much to spend money on. Why would I want fiefs? They only give you even more money, I have no need for that.I feel like they should have some other uses, too. For example imagine if villages could only have basic troops, and you could only recruit noble units from your own towns? That would make owning fiefs actually worth it, regardless of your income. Or maybe you could mobilize large mercenary-like units to join you in the field from your fiefs.
>>2271906Make your own kingdom. You'll be wondering where all that money went before you know it.
>>2271411i remember reading a bug report about this on the forum but can't remember if there were a solution. check the forum.
>>2271711you or that other anon percieve our posts about what bannerlord lacks as us hating it and idolizing warband.we don't. warband is jank but had cool concepts.those concepts should have been expanded on in the sequel. not cut out.we all see the potential in bannerlord and hope it will surpass warband and make it obsolete. how well the game runs, being able to mix and match mods and adding armours and weapons easily instead of suffering through warband's modding method and doing it one by one is fucking great.the heir system is fucking great.the sieges are pretty good.being able to create custom weapons is fucking great. although smithing as a skill is meh.tldr; we want bannerlord to be the game to end all strategy, grand strategy and rpg games.
I hate the mangonel destroying mission so fucking much.
>>2272004I just sailed closer and shot them from point blank on bannerlord difficulty faggot nord kept screeching about muh archers
when i move the formation in pre-battle deployment that i am a part of, why doesnt my character move with them? i end up standing like 1 minute away
>War sails crashes when loading into scene about an hour into the game>restart the game and the same battle loads fineAnybody get the same or resolve this? Seems to be a VRAM issue
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/7719it's up, game's playable again
Anyone else getting crashes on vanilla on Linux? Game seems to shit itself 15-20 minutes after starting regardless of what I'm doing.
>>2272091Haven't played it at all recently, but if you're doing it via Steam you can append "PROTON_LOG=1 %command%" to the Launch Options. It'll output a log to your home directory; depending on what's causing the crash, it might give you some leads.
>Sells her into marriage the week she turns 18.> For basically pocket money.What did Lucon mean by this?
>>2272166
>>2272166Made sure to impregnate too!
Dickplomacy when?
>>2272221WYMI
>>2271660If Warband was barebones, then Bannerlord is boneless altogether.
>>2271647This. I expected Bannerlord to expand on these mechanics, not cut them altogether.
>>2271753The old map was better anyway.
how do i get roguery xp? like, how can TW make such an oversight that doing assassinations successfully doesn't give roguery xp?
>>2272292It does for me I level up roguery like 3 times per hideout due to all the backstabbing
>>2272292If I remember, taking over alleys was one of the better ways to grind roguery.
>>2272298wtf, i've gotten zero rogery xp from this so far and i've cleared out 3 places with assassinations
>>2272335Yeah that sounds like a bug. Do you have focus points in it maybe that's the issue
>>2271662Nta, but there are three things that factor into auto resolve when it comes to troops: regulars, irregulars and cavalry. Sturgia has shit-tier irregulars that the AI underhires. This creates two effects at once: there are less irregulars in the match-up (so AI gets countered easier in the match-up calculation) and those that exist are pretty shit, as they have lower value for the calculation (shitty weapons that are effectively two tiers lower than everyone's else)
I think it would have been better if Nords were implemented as a "semi-faction", somewhere between a real faction and a minor clan. Sturgia wouldn't need to be shit on than.
>>2272346no i dont but i should still be getting some roguery level xp right?
I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.
>>2272366They should have leaned more into Slavic culture from the beginning.
>>2272395I think it's very slow if youre capped out, and maybe even hard capped at some point. Not an expert
>>2272444i still dont understand how the skill system is supposed to work in bannerlord, i have maxed out all those focus points or whatever in athletics, and i have 7 endurance. my athletics is close to 200 but not quite there. and there's no more green to the right on the athletics skill tree. does this mean my athletics can never go up again unless i spend points into endurance?
>>2272467I think it still goes up but the rate reduces. I had a companion that was maxed out on stewardship according to no green area left but it still leveled.
I was going to buy the dlc but I see 4 days later its Mixed in the reviews. What happened?
>>2272467I know you need 8 in the Stat and 5 in the Skill to get the max of 300, not sure what the minimum requirement is for 200.
>>2272500Well I mean, the game didn't really fundamentally change. They are definitely overcharging for how little actual content is added.In my personal opinion, the changes and additions are good. But the core of Bannerlords problems are still there: 24/7 war and every single battle is completely onesided; you either destroy the enemy or the enemy destroys you - all of this despite all the changes.
>>2272501>>2272474got it, thanks guys
>>2272505That's a shame. It means those issues aren't "problems to be fixed" in their eyes. This DLC was a chance for them to actually do something substantial I guess its up to the modders once again. But I don't think even modders can fix 24/7 war since that is hard coded into the game.
>>2272500it's all peoples complaining about the stat of the base game, few are about what the DLC adds
>>2272520My conclusion is that the devs at TW are not really gamers, and they don't really have anyone working for them who speaks really good English and Turkish. The communication between the fanbase and TW is COMPLETELY off.
>>2272500The dlc is just underwhelming. Plus a lot of bugs and crashes, which are actually being fixed at a shocking rate for TW
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/6137I will now play your game.
>>2272546baste mod
Thanks God
What was that mod called that gets rid off all these stronk wahmen leading armies?
>>2272634Misogyny Enhanced 4.2
wait, since when do you lose all your fucking shift in your inventory, like alternative weapons, throwing weapons, shields, etc. when you get taken prisoner when losing a defending siege? wtf?
Which mods allow me to be Rance?
>>2272666Shokuhou + primae noctis but PN is broken for the new patch and the modder isn't in the mood to fix it since taleworlds changed too much code
What are some good low fantasy mods?
>>2271757
>>2272682DLC paypigs, did the increased size and travel times affect anything
>>2272700Well sturgia got cut in half.
>>2272700Boat travel is fast and it makes going between southern Imperial lands and Aserai holdings much simpler. Same with the lake in the north between Sturgia and the Nimps. The Nords are super spread out though and even by boat traveling between their farthest holdings is rather slow. Most traveling you'll do will be about the same though. The major exceptions are the bits of Sturgia that are cut off and the crossing between the Aserai and Vlandia. You'll need boats for those now.
>>2272707Am I just not noticing it or can you literally not cross the bay until you have your own ship? There are no ferries or any way to hire a ship to travel from one port to another?
>>2272711You're entirely correct. Why they didn't add some kind of ferry service or other way to travel between ports before you have ships of your own is beyond me.
>>2271370one of the biggest PoP advantages is that its quite easily tweaked
How do I stop the game from pausing when I alt tabHow do I nerf vlandia so they dont just paint the entire map red every game
>>2271672>feastsThe thing is in Warband there was plenty downtime for lords>lords recruiting? sit in walled fief>feast? lords gather in walled fief>tax collecting? lords collect taxes(it takes time)In Bannerlord they are run around. Bannerlord have more ''features'' than warband but plenty of them are broken or have little synergy with other(if any at all)Perk system, clan system , relationship and personality, recruitment system, fief system - its all suck in one way or another
>>2272719>How do I stop the game from pausing when I alt tabthere is a setting in the game for this>How do I nerf vlandia so they dont just paint the entire map red every gamethey don't do this in my runs. they get checked by fighting 4 way wars with nimps, wimps, Aserai and Sturgia
Archers are completely useless. Why does everyone talk about how OP they are?>charge>raise shields>completely immune to arrows>BTFO archers since they're inferior to shock infantry in shock combatThey do literally fuck all in 90% of battles unless you're autoresolving or fighting looters.
>>2272738place them on the sword side of enemies, retard
>>2272396what about lu bu chasing mod?
>>2272738You need infantry to make them work. Or you move them to the enemies flank.
>randomly get paid 9000 gold for my mercenary contract>havent done anything but clear a hideoutwhat
Ok this is based they let you ride in their own ships and sail towards the enemy if youre in the army. Can't wait to meet an enemy army at the sea and absolutely destroy them due to the nords having innate mariner skills (right?)
>>2272771Oh fuck no I take it back get me out I HATE VLANDIA SO MUCH
>>2272772Their ships are qualitatively superior to yours too btw.
>>2272738you wait for the enemy to engage with your other part of the army so they would drop their shields and did. either cav or infantry in a shield wall or a square.have you never gotten your shit pushed in by a Vlandian army at the final stages of the battle?
>>2272775
>>2272761you get paid per influence point as a merc.idk how much influence you gain per new hideout nor if they buffed contracts.
>>2272779Ohhh I think I know what happened, I bribed one of those minstrel bard guys to lie for me and I gained 200 influence for 1k gold and he got me PAID as fuck
>>2270433Can’t seige settlements from the water but can’t leave the water because my party will disintegrate being above the party size after leaving my fleet with barracks on them. What was the point of this mechanic? I’m basically just stuck in the sea forever now
>>2272784huh, i thought you could only bring more men on ships not that your party size actually got a buff.meanwhile, lords can walk on sea and never track their ships. this is the reason making me sour whenever i think about buying the dlc.
Any consequences to leaving as a Vassal from a Kingdom? Can I re-join them immediately afterwards as a Mercenary? My intention right now is to sell my services as a mercenary to losing factions in order to balance out the world map.Also, did siege ladders get removed? Sometimes I can find them, sometimes not. What determines if they're available or not?
>>2272792I’m currently 60 over cap on my land party size whilst travelling around on the sea, if I step into land my party size falls off a cliff and everyone deserts. I think this isn’t an intended mechanic
>>2272799they hate you. they'll hate you even more if you take your fiefs with you.you can't merc if you own a fief.>>2272802report it as a bug then
>>2272707>The major exceptions are the bits of Sturgia that are cut offThis sounds bad.
>>2272815do you know roughly how much relationship is lost if you leave but you leave your fiefs?
>>2272771Wait, is that really the art used in game? I get that it's stylized but it looks like they just took the paintbrush tool in MS Paint and added that helmet on to an already existing artwork or something.
>>2272837no.i *think* i lost 30 or 60 relation points when leaving WITH my fiefs. can't remember which. you can always just save or copy the save file if it was iron man to make a manual save file.
>>2272840lmao based nooticer
>>2272840The blade of his sword is also like that
>>2272841cheers
>>2272500Price-to-content and price-to-quality are just open fleecing and that's why people complain.On top of that, various important elements still weren't implemented, but hey, naval combat that nobody except handful of people asked is now officially part of the game, so... yeah
>>2272862I dunno man it seems like a lot that they added
Are there any modders here? How have they increased the capabilities of the modding tools in the latest updates? Should I start making my total conversion mod already?
Nice bug.1200 vs 200 in an offensive siege. We of course easily win the battle. But I get wounded, we destroy almost all of them, losing only 100 of our own.They retreat to the keep.Since I'm wounded, I have to send in the men, so I do.They lose.So the 20 or so defenders in the keep - in the autoresolve - defeat the army of 1000 and capture me and clean up my entire inventory.Nice one TW. Do you ever fucking test anything?
>>2272862>le handfulretard
>>2272874Why do you keep posting this
>-3 different culture of the ownerwho thought this was a good idea, seriously
>>2272893Well it kinda makes sense to help stop snowballing but it should be for AI only and give the player some sort of other malus that isnt so fucking annoying.
>>2272292raid villages
>>2272500sailing isn't that useful and the stealth stuff is just not great, both things that you'll do once say that was neat and then never do again.
I'm a nord so I'm trying to use mostly nord troops if possible, but I'm thinking that when I actually create my own kingdom I will make my own custom trees. I figure they should still be similar to the nord ones, so probably a lot of infantry, as well as axes and throwing weapons. And I think I'll add a bit of flavour from whatever the first fief I take will be, since I don't want to keep my fiefs when leaving the current kingdom. So maybe vlandia to curb them a little bit? Or Aserai?What kinds of troops do you think I ought to make?
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/9109https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/9193Anyone know the difference between these two enlistments mods? Trying to decide which one to install.
>>2272422true
>>2272772Vlandian women are breeding factories.
mods that improve faces?
did they change something with the graphics since the last time I played? I don't recall the game making my 2080 spike to 80 degrees
>>2272949this
>>2271987>we all see the potential in bannerlordI don't
>>2272873KindaNoNo
>>2272873>Should I start making my total conversion mod already?no. they keep breaking things. the dlc put PN modder off of modding. at least for the foreseeable future.
>>2272966look harder
>>2272977All I can see are incompetent turks, broken systems and bugs - to fix it you would need somebody with vision and skill who redesign and rebuild most of core systems - essentially a new game.>but it could happen, it will happen for sureCall me then, I am tired of ''muh potential'' cope. Its never true.
I want to make a total conversion for warband but I'm so uncreative I just can't fucking come up with an interesting setting/loreI have a lot of cool feature ideas (most of them based around my complete fief, population and economy overhaul) and I'm in the process of implementing them right now but I know very well nobody will play my mod if it stays in calradia.>don't want a historical setting because can't be bothered to research the population and economy of every medieval town>don't want a high fantasy setting because all those orcs and dragons and stuff look jank as fuck in warband>don't want a low fantasy setting because it will almost certainly end up a discount pop/perisnoSend help
>Wondering why NPCs are aging so fast>Turns out I had the Fast Mode module onfuck... no way to turn it off right? I thought it meant being able to speed up time super fast by holding ctrl or something like warband or like those hyperspeed campaign layer starsector mods
>>2272987just remake warband setting in bannerlord
>>2272987remake gangs of glasgow.
>vlandia and aserai made an allianceaxis of evil.....
>>2272966i did until they broke everything 2 days ago and don't care because they sold their boat dlc already.
>god tier stats>18 yo>rich tier 5 clan>but with an ugly frownI don't know man, finding a wife is fucking hard
>>2272991>just mod the game where you need to rewrite everything on a weekly basisNo thanks>>2272993Only thing worth porting from og mb is 1866 but I want to do my own thing right now
>>2272986>essentially a new gamenothe engine is done. all that is needed is balancing.
>>2273022Todd Howard and co (mainly trainwiz trying to argue with me actually) said the same thing about the next elder scrolls ("engine is fine you don't know what you're talking about" ok mounts trains on npc heads guy) and even Todd admits its going to flop.
>>2273022>The engine is shit, let's now keep mucking it up some moreStellar logic, Mehmet
damn, I had no idea they patched inbreeding in
>>2273025>trains on npc headsGonna be a nerd here and point out that it was Obsidian who put trains on NPC heads. But then again Obsidian only had to resort to such crutches because todd's engine is dogshit
>>2273062uhh actuallllly that done first in fallout 3's expansion broken steel
>>2273062see >>2273067dont defend that shit to me please. trainwiz is an asshat.
>>2273067Oh damn you got me there Mr. Nerdfaggot, I haven't played broken steel so didn't know that>>2273070No sane person will defend todd engine and neither will I but I will defend bannerlord's engine. It can do everything it needs to do (in one of those GoT mods they even got real flying working), bannerlord's issues are not engine issues
>>2273025wut?bannerlord got a new engine after warband. it's not the same.>>2273026how the fuck is the engine shit?
>>2272355>weapons have a value for the calculationAgain, do you have a source for that?
>>2272956how are we supposed to know when you last played?
>>2273001>closed fistedinto the trashSvana is all you need.
>>2273111last year briefly
>>2273115i didn't feel a performance dip but i'm a poorfag running it on a toaster on medium low. my case fans and GPU are set to silent mode and i rarely hear them roaring.i did several hours sessions recently without any roar up. probably because it's winter.the game did get a lighting touch up/upgrade/overhaul but idk how much it impacts performance for higher settings.
>>2270433How are the boats? Can I murder a gorillion pirates and become the best sea merchant ever? How badly did they murder my boy Sturgia when extracting the Nordic viking identity?
>The use of the chains in the first naval story mission.FLAILS SOON??
>>2273161>he doesn't know
>>2272462what's the point of Garontor castle anymore?
>>2273077>Oh damn you got me there Mr. Nerdfaggot, I haven't played broken steel so didn't know thatNo bother good anon both obsidian and bsg make buggy fucking shit games and new vegas was just a fluke.
>>2273161I almost nutted at that desu.>>2273165Were flails actually added?
is the game fun yet?
>>2273179No, probably never will be.
>>2273178YES. shit implementation though
Will Bannerlord ever see a Fire & Sword or Napoleonic War DLC that adds guns?
has perisno saved warband yet?
>>2273183yes
>>2273181Maybe RBM can fix it?
With the new gear out there, which culture has the best fashion?
>>2273186noit can be blocked like a sword
>>2273189Either the Empire or the Khuzait.
>>2273193(me)it's only accessible theough the cheat menu so hopefully they'll fix it.
>>2273193Lame. Could still be neat if it generally has longer reach for mounted combat. Are they (and any other new shit) incorporated in the smithing system?
I wish you could do more with the minor factions and that there was reliable ways to get their troops.
Do the Nords feel distinct from Sturgia, or are they pretty same-y?
>>2273201nords are just worse sturgians atm besides that pretty samey
Any mods that turn Bannerlord into a horror game?
>>2273205vanilla the horror of bad game design.
Is the two hander perk that gives cleave unlocked near the end of one of the new naval skills any good?
They did an overhaul of stealth and roguery shit when WS dropped, right? How is it?
Do the naval skill perks only function in the context of boat shit?
>>2273216It doesn't specify that, but it certainly feels like it, yeah.
>>2273189Aserai has best women robes and pyjamas but Battanians have furs,Armor I'd mix Battanian fur with Sturgia
>>2273227>Aserai has best women robesAny of those robes armored for an enterprising female MC?
>eagle rising went full historical sloppaand here I was looking forward to calradian antiquity, they should have done that for the dlc instead of this temu VC shit
>>2270750You are completely correct.>>2270888Lmao
>>2272987people play calradia borderlands, you could just extend the map and add more factions/towns.
>>2272874Working as intended
>Car Banseth being relocated a huge distance to the coast instead of just giving Battania a new townSo Vlandia having 8 towns on the edge of the map is fine but Battania having 6 towns inland with lots of neighbors is too OP?
>>2273292Battania shouldn't even have sea access, except by river maybe.
>>2273189Imo Sturgia > Aserai > Khuzait > Empire > Nords > Vlandia.However, I will say that Vlandia has a couple of mid-game armor pieces that are my favorites in the whole game, ironically enough.
>>2273309>Battania shouldn't even have sea accessNice opinion, faggot
>>2273107Different anon, but it's literally in the code.Units are evaluated for their:- tier- gear (via tier system)- typeThis means same tier units aren't evaluated equally, if they have gear disparity. Like in the case of Sturgian archers or Khuzait infantry. Or why veteran archer militia is so fucking great in actual combat, but dies by the dozen in auto-resolve.
>>2273325Battania not having sea access is literally part of their in-game lore.
>>2273169Sad but true anonI've tried out Avowed about a mpnth ago and dear god it pained me so much to see Obsidian stoop that low. Haven't even tried Outer Worlds yet just to maintain what little hope I still have left for a bit longer
>>2273183That's what war sails should have been about>>2273184Yes>>2273189Sturgia and Empire
>>2273292The map is schizo, especially with War Sails. The Battanian town is the only town in a huge bay that actually is a port town despite multiple Sturgian towns being a stone toss away from shore there. There's so many places on the map where there is just fuck all from naval point of view and it's just conga lines of convoys.
>>2273212shit
>>2273212It's just like everything else added by this DLC: it's decently done but it's not something you really wanted to see in the game
>>2273346They forget to change the encyclopedia description for that city, did they?
>>2273062No they didn't. None of the games have train engine heads. There's a 3D model that a modder turned into a hat that was used in a prebaked animation. Congrats on repeating what you heard on reddit, dipshit.
>>2273431Guess he really doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about lmao
>>2270433Anyone have an update on how the Illiac bay mod is doing? Especially in economics? Do guild shit actually give money now? That was my main gripe honestly. Been playing Vasnar too, it's pretty good mod.
>>2273489>VasnarDo you know how to complete the barricade quest in Tollan? I cant find any barricades in the town.
>>2273491Use the special locations option in town.Also use cover, them muskets are no joke.
Speaking of vasnar>companion has ~150 firearms WP>alchemist's rifle has 105 accuracy, literally pinpoint precise>he somehow still keeps missing regularlyHow do I fix this? How much more WP does he need to reliably hit enemies with his laser gun? It has NO fucking spread whatsoever, the only way to miss with it is to not aim at the enemy
>fighting Khuzaits>bait their army into a forest so I can autoresolve since I hate fighting horse archers>its snowing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>horse archers gain a fucking huge boost because it counts as a snow battle instead of a forest battle
>>2273591Lmao I didn't even know that was a thingShouldn't snow also affect cavalry negatively because horses struggle to run in it?
Help, I've joined nords climbed to the very top doing all the legwork capturing entire Swadia, half of Vaegirs and bits here and there. I own half of towns of my faction, and decided that this is getting boring and I want not to remain cuck for the rest of the playthrough, so I need to rebel. Issue is King loves me, Marshall loves me and each next town I take I'm granted, no matter how often I provoke wars.
>join a faction>they just keep giving me settlements>I literally don't do anything to help withhow do I make them stop?
Okay the boats are out. You can sail between Aserai and Empire. You can farm pirates who always have exactly 3 ships and are faster than youThere's stealth but why? That's the main problem with Bannerlord, everything TW does is half-assed.Waiting until the autismo from the Hooded Horse discord finishes his overhaul of VC (balance mod).
>>2273601Just rebel anyway? If they all love you so much most of them will join your nascent kingdom.
>>2273612I need them to refuse my request for granting a fief to rebel. Besides apart from king, Turya and my wife's dad I don't have many ardent supporters since half of faction now are rejects from elsewhere heads of which I bashed in billion times.
>>2273617My bad, it's been a while and I forgot that's how Warband worked. If you ask your king to relinquish your oath, is there no option to refuse to give up your fiefs too?
>>2273617>I need them to refuse my request for granting a fief to rebelHuh? Can't you just click "leave kingdom" and pick the option not to relinquish your holdings?
>>2273417Of course they "forget". They always "forget".I honestly don't understand TW at this point. I'm more and more convinced that the original M&B was just a lucky strike and they kinda get stuck with it ever since.
Nice job Turkworlds>>2273643Reread his post again carefully
>>2273604Install between 2 to 7 mods
>>2273604>they just give you shitty castles with 0 loyalty somewhere in the middle of enemy territoryt-thanks...
>>2272951https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/288Just updated.
>>2273712This looks decent but it doesnt seem to solve the problem of nearly every male face looking like the cockroaches from terra formars.
>>2273489Using chests in Vasnar refills all your ammo btw, meaning you can cheese the fuck out of dungeons simply by spamming hallowed warrior raised warrior
>>2273431That poster has been seething over this for years now. Actual rent-free mindbroken guy who has no idea what he's talking about and got mad he was called out over it lmao.
>take 2 cities and 2 castles>die in a siege, so now the AI is the one running the friendly armies>0% support for ending the war>enemy is fucking steamrolling us now>a second nation declares war on us and is now raping us from the other side as the AI armies lose all the gains I made on the first front>still refuse to support peaceReal sick and fucking tired of the stupid ass AI. Refusing peace all the time
>>2273742Yeah they should make it really smart so it can run your kingdom very well. That way you don't have to play at all, just watch as the AI paints the map for you.
This is a dumb noob question but how do you zoom in on your character when viewing the map without moving?
>>2273609>VC (balance mod)Redpill me on why this is a good thing and why I shouldn't just play boringblanda instead
>>2273292>delete Original Sargoth and put it all the way south where Veluca should be>delete Suno >put Uxhal where Suno should be >put Pen Cannoc where Uxhal should be>make the river that flows through Vlandia fork in the wrong direction just because>make the river that flows from the big Battanian pond flow straight north despite the old Sargoth river more or less matching the same flow>make the entrance to the bowl where Battania is completely off from the only identifiable feature from warband, the old ridge by Uxhal>make the Jalmarys mountains just have a hard stop and turn into a river instead of curling naturally into the continent>make the river under the Dryatic mountains just end in a pool with no outflow and no explanation as to where that water goesThe Bannerlord map makes me go fucking insane the more i look at it. Pre-War Sails i was trying to do this partial redesign to try to match the Warband and Bannerlord lores together without fucking up the whole goddamn thing gameplay wise, mostly moving things where they should, trying to make rivers make sense and most importantly erasing some mountains or turning them into more reasonable hills so we could have wide open plains instead of a turkroach pacman maze from shore to shore, but with war sails fucking things up even further i'm just going to hope modded historical maps are better.full reshttps://files.catbox.moe/mwuz9g.jpg
>>2273748>implying that would be a bad thingThere's no better evidence of a game having deep complex simulation and advanced AI than the game's ability to (competently) play itself without human involvement
>>2273777Open any menu (Q for example) then close it
>>2273617You can promote companions to lordship for a fief and some money, it takes a little while for them to be combat ready but it's basically an easy way to get supporters.
In my new war sails campaign little bro phasos never joined my party after coming of age.Saving Alea from the rape boat worked fine but somehow Phasos is just chilling 'around Ocs Hall' as per the Encyclopedia. But he's not even showing up in the Clan screen.Anybody facing a similar issue?
>>2273847It's a known glitch, happened to me too. Consider him dead.
>>2273852Thanks, damn that sucks. Losing him is losing 2 effective companion slotsEven identified who I wanted him to marry to round out the party skills...
crossbows or archers for chimperials?
>>2273609If you fight sturgia you can get shit loads of quality ships if you camp the sea between their land. You need the correct draft and some mariner perk to speed up
>>2273778I've never played brytenwalda so I have no idea how VC compares, but I've played vanilla VC for a couple hundred hours and in retrospect it's shit. 60% of lord armies are pitchfork peasants, battle loot is saved in kill order so after big battles it's just a bunch of peasant rags, events are full of little gotcha choices like + stats that only show up once and require a certain amount of gold, horses are super expensive, unit promotions to higher levels are super expensive, capturing ships is borderline impossible, etc. Whoever is left in charge of maintaining the mod also fucked faction relationships last year, now they don't reset for the player once the war is over.VC balance mod from Hooded Horse unfucks all of this, rebalances troop trees, prices and wages, changes lord army composition, sorts battle loot by price, revamps events, all of that jazz, it's really fun. Balance mod has been out for years.Now some guy is making an overhaul based on VC balance mod, it will have new formation AI and QoL features like village garrisons.
>>2273898>60% of lord armies are pitchfork peasants>horses are super expensive, unit promotions to higher levels are super expensive, capturing ships is borderline impossibleIsn't this done this way on purpose, for historical accuracy? It definitely was in brytenwaldaBtw regarding the battle loot filling up with trash, somewhere in PoP wiki there's a tweaks guide and there's a tweak that does exactly that (fills the loot screen with expensive items first) and IIRC it can be applied to literally any mod (so long as it doesn't change the looting function itself), you might want to check that out
>>2272748I think hot butter is the only bug chasing mod atm
>>2273022i didn't say anything about engine you tard
>>2273859I think their crossbows are slightly better at tier 5, but their tier 4 archer is better than their tier 4 crossbowman.
>>2273967Goddamnit moot how did that post get quoted when I clicked >>2273862
I'm really enjoying playing as a mercenary privateer for the Nords. Ransack enemy convoys during war time, hunt pirates during peace.
What's the best firing platform ship? Been trying fians and two of the aserai heaviest and it's been pretty lackluster so far. Archer AI doesn't deal with the waves and uproll that well and various LoS issues.Would a Drakkon be better? Deck could fit 108 and it's flatter
it's genuinely annoying how town NPCs have all color coordinated outfits
>>2273598yes
>>2273898link to balanced vc?
>start new game>Look away for a second>battania gets wiped off the face of the map, its nobles killed if male or impregnated if female by other factionsI guess something really never changes
>>2274007https://www.moddb.com/mods/vc-balance-mod/downloadsThere's some smaller updates after 13, they're on hooded horse d*scord
>>2274011Ah yes, raiding your own village fantastic move
>>2274012>d*scordwhat a gay timeline we are in
>>2274005Blue is so yesterday fashion, the new trendy color is light purple.
>>2273781pretty sexy desu, you should continue working on it
i deleted my current save file because i dont wanna burn myself out before RBM is updated, the only mod that makes bannerlord playable
OH SHIII RBM UPDATED
>>2274087didn't work for me, harmony crash
need a japanese voice mod, my all-female army sounds awful
>>2274099
I'm having fun.
>>2274103anime character models when
>>2274107goodhope in the future I'll be able to too.
>>2274150I hope so too anonI'm sure once the mods get rolling out, this shit will turbokinoThis was always a LONG term project... we lived off warband for a decade plus and a lot of us weren't here until warband is released. I figure being a Bannerlord early adapter is like the hardcore nerds who bought and supported the original Mount and Blade
>>2274156Playing bannerlord during the pandemic with friends was kino. Multiplayer scene was fun. Too bad there's no co-op where you buddy can join fights as a companion
I have fallen in love with equipment editing, utter kino.
>>2274164truth, thats a handsome unit anon
drive by shooting doesn't work too well
>>2274168Merci, I got inspired by the 1973 Robin Hood film and then fell into a rabbit hole of adaptations. It started with wanting a longbow unit and then evolved from there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLhYSw67pdg
>>2274169I just ram and board, if you have good units like Huscarls then you usually sweep their deck before any real damage is done.
>>2274164I really like how they put your crest on the shields and armor
>>2274188
>>2274194I've played custom battanian imperials and aserai imperials
>>2274185sea battles have really high rates of attrition
>>2274196I really love that colour on that cloth, do you play them as relative post fall of Rome ERE garrisons? That could be a very cool game setup, make a real Southern Empire. Do you have any screenshots of the Battanians?
>>2274200yeah but they're just some sort of romaboos with green capes
>>2270640>why do people even make shitcords for their projectsbecause web forums are (unfortunately) dead
>>2274205here's a mid tier unit instead
>>2274205I went full Romaboo with my Imperial edit, I just love that helmet. I have only changed the Legionary which leaves them in an odd spot given the Byzantine aesthetic of the rest though I like to imagine it gives them an almost mythical status as though they are the last remnants of the old Empire's might.
>>2274209They look Gaulic, that rock is a perfect position for that shot also. Very aesthetic.
>>2274212>>2274213I based them off the Herculiani Seniores from Attila.
>>2274212>I have only changed the Legionary which leaves them in an odd spot given the Byzantine aesthetic of the rest though I like to imagine it gives them an almost mythical status as though they are the last remnants of the old Empire's might.That's the in-game lore for the Legion of the Betrayed, sadly even the Triarii aren't as /fa/ as they could be
Why can't you take wenches and slaves in this game or take what you want from the women?
>>2274227No Dickplomacy and lack of basedness from the turks
>tell boat full of archers to skirmish>they just park 30 feet away and fire arrows for 10 seconds before getting boardedHow do I into naval commanding
>>2274230Idk, is it possible to just split them all up so that half the troops are melee and half are ranged it feels the best wayNords are based because of all their throwing axes
>get 3 dromons>start raiding aserai>pick off all their lords as they attempt to go overseas in their wars against vlandia and the empirehaving the firepot ballista so high up on the dromons is so broken, if your ram doesn't get them you just push their boats in front of you while you kill 3/4's of their crew. If only my AI captains would actually ram, but they still clear the decks with their own ballistas so it's not horrible.
>>2273781O shid anon you reminded me of this thing I made ages agoIt's a crude sketch but I still like it, feels elegant
>>2274239it's even got troop trees (theoretical)
>>2274220I almost always go with Garios due to the nature of my more militarised Imperial aesthetic, it might be worth me changing some things around with the Legion of the Betrayed units to fit in line with the Legionary image. Though it is beyond me currently, I would like to slight differences between the three Empires with their troop trees - West focused on Heavy Infantry, the North focused Crossbowmen and mercenaries, the South focused on Heavy Cavalry and Mounted Archers. Each representing an image of Rome - Imperial, Republic and Byzantine.
>>2274183>>2274194>>2274196>>2274205Is this with the Retinue mod?
>>2274256I was using my little warband
>>2274256My Medieval men were created by editing the actual files. You need to go to your Bannerlord Steam folder and go into Modules > SandboxCore > ModuleData and then edit spnpccharacters with notepad++. Go into the items folder to look up the id of each equipment.
Maybe Im easy to please but Im still not sick of the naval actionsCan't wait for mods to really flesh it out
>>2274285I want a mod so I don't have to pilot
>>2274294https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/9205gotchu senpai
How do I make a good governor? I set a companion to running a trade caravan, then a party, and after many years his stewardship and leadership are still just kind of average. Should I stop trying to groom governors and just use whatever I can, or is there a way to churn out good governors quickly?
>>2274255If lords actually tried filling army composition templates instead of minmaxing it could be possible to make them more distinct. All factions have a "hero" unit that represents them at the end of their troop trees, they could have given a slightly different hero unit for each empire like that.>West has Legionary Evocatus, Legionaries plus+>North has Scholae Palatina, Palatine guards with a huge 2H Rhompaia instead of a 1H sword and nicer armor>South has Cataphract Bucellarii, Elite Cataphracts with luxury armor and throwing weapons for extra fuck you
>>2274164that looks greatthe only people who are capable of making non-dogshit troop trees are the people on here. it's incredible.i just downloaded the updated rbm with its own troop overhaul, and i dont even know what to say...sure, the game is unplayable without RBM, but the troop overhaul? no. disabling that one
Does War Sails and 1.3 add new features for minor factions, specifically for the lake rats? They're whole schtick is beaching ships and salvaging them.
>>2274323I like that alot, really shows the end goals of each faction compared with one another. Making the Imperial divide more philosophical both in design and strategy rather then political would be a very cool experience.
>>2274330>RBM troop overhaulHow bad is it? For my part I try to keep designs grounded in history but focused on aesthetics, the top tier units of Vlandia should reflect their status in both appearance and weaponry. In English history for example the pinnacle of commoner soldiery were the longbowmen and billmen who respectively defined themselves as standing next to and even outdoing their noble allies and foes. Giving the voulgiers and sharpshooters a higher quality and more uniformed apparel fits them. I like to present the soldiers as though they were from a high budget Shakespearian movie adaptation - Kenneth Branagh's Henry V laid most of the groundwork along with Olivier's 1944 film. For the Empire I looked to Ryse son of Rome and Total war Attila though admittedly it feels much more out of place given the time period.
>>2274285If there's one thing the DLC really nailed it's the naval battles themselves. Everything from the look and feel of it to the actual gameplay feels really tight.
>>2274344agreed, and I want to also give them credit for completely redoing the map. Nords could be better but mods will fix it
>>2274343RBM's troop tree overhaul is just retarded, don't even bother with it. It's a fantastic mod, don't get me wrong, no-one should play Bannerlord without it. But you're better off waiting for De Re Militari to update. That is an RBM-approved troop overhaul mod whcih they recommend you to play with anyways.
>>2274347The map is so much more interesting now too it's not just bigger or re-done it feels more tactical especially with alliance mechanic
>>2274330I really liked De Re Militari as far as troop tree overhauls go. I haven't used it in a few years since I tend to play vanilla but I really liked how it made a clear distinction between levy, regular, and noble troops. Factions maintained their flavor, they felt like they had clearer strengths and weaknesses, and your nobles felt like a decisive and precious force of your army that you can't just throw around or spam like crazy. I also personally prefer more grounded army compositions so it was nice that levy shitters remain a core part of most armies throughout the game.
>>2274351yup, the ways they fleshed out the waterways really enhanced the tactical naval gameplay, example:>Be merc privateers for Nords>Khuzait shits declare war>Park my fleet at picrel>Farm their trade ships for a week>They ask for peace
>>2274357Still waiting to have a massive 1k+ battle at sea army versus army
>>2274366The best way to do this is to wait for an enemy army to besiege one of your faction's port settlements, then attack them from sea. Each siege is also a naval blockade now, so doing this forces them into a naval engagement. I've not had the luck to find an enemy army out at sea while sailing around with one of my own. The best I can hope for is occasionally spotting an enemy lord traveling by boat, but even that's rare unless you spend all your time in the water which you can't really afford to do if you're serious about campaigning and taking fiefs.
>>2274367see>>2272772It happens a lot up north where you basically have to travel by boat
>>2273742drain their influence by repeatedly suggesting peace and not voting
>>2273781based autist>most importantly erasing some mountains or turning them into more reasonable hills so we could have wide open plains instead of a turkroach pacman maze from shore to shoreisn't Anatolia a mountainous territory?
>>2274000Vlandian ships are the biggest, no?
So I downloaded RBM, was disgusted by the troop tree overhaul, and re-imported my adjusted troop tree.So it's basically:>War Sails vanilla troop tree+>My Sturgian reflavoured troop tree>Minor Nord changes>Every single ranged troop tree adjusted to account for RBM ranged overhaul changes, so basically they all use correct poundage bows/crossbows + correct gram arrows/boltsIf any1 is interested, let me know, and I'll figure out how to upload it
nord start in sandbox is brutal my god. every army is so fucking slow because there’s no cav. seems like I just straight up need scouting if I’m gonna go nord lol.
>>2274388>>Every single ranged troop tree adjusted to account for RBM ranged overhaul changes, so basically they all use correct poundage bows/crossbows + correct gram arrows/boltsDo they not work correctly in vanilla troop trees with RBM? I was just about to download the mod right now
>>2274389You can still speed up your troops with horses even if you have no cavalry thoughbeit
>>2274392No they don't, because he used existing item ID's to create rebalanced ranged items, such as 120 pound longbows, or 90 pound composite bows, etc etc. and many different ammunition, like 70 gram arrows or 80 gram arrows, etc.Different poundage bows (and composite vs longbow as well) have an optimal weigh arrow they prefer, or rather fire optimally with. This is one of the reasons RBM has a "native" troop tree overhaul, to ensure the ranged troops get the correct ranged weapons with the correct ammunition.But if you disable the RBM troop tree, then you're stuck with the native troop tree but with all the wrong bows/crossbows and bolts. so for example the tier 6 khuzait horse archer has a lower poundage bow than the tier 5 khuzait horse archer, meanwhile both of them use 50 gram arrows when they should be using like 80 pound arrows etc
>>2274236how does the catapult?
>>2274388>>2274399okay so i have no clue if this is how to share troop trees, but here you guys go: https://we.tl/t-gcKBPyxaX1i just uploaded my "troopeditor" folder here, no idea if it'll workplop that into your "modules" folder (replace existing "troopeditor" folder if you already had the mod installed)mods needed for this to work, i assume, are:>Troop Editor>RBM+ all prerequisites
and please make backups, i would feel terrible if i accidentally bricked your bannerlord
>>2274285bruh, it's only been 5 days. give yourself up to a month.
>>2274425>bruh you only enjoyed that $30 dlc for a month
>>2274427i'm not sure what you mean by this post.but isn't the dlc 25$ WITHOUT the 10% off?
>>2274310companions work best as captains. governers are not really needed unless your cukture doesn't match.
>>2274005historically accurate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_and_Greens_in_the_Byzantine_Empire
>>2274269the biggest problem for me with that sort of editining was checking is it right name for the weapon I wanted and its look
>>2274194>no tabards on horseslame, cringe, zero SWAG, behind niggas technology
>>2274414Well it appears to be working just fine. Thanks for that, I'm going to start playing on it right away.I was checking out the troop trees between vanilla and RBM, why the fuck are the troop trees in RBM so retarded? Does the modder give any reasoning behind it?Also what are the changes you made to Sturgia and the Nords?
>>2274236>>2274406how does the fire cataoukt compare to the fire ballista at sea?
>>2274442>cataouktcatapult*
>>2274436Vlandian pimps kept down by roach devs once again>>2274433I cheated in the items, wore them on my character to see how they would look and then screenshotted the inventory. It took a while to get it all done though with the item folder and the screenshots it was just a checklist.
>>2274425I'm just killing time for the mods broYou can't demoralize me, I'm locked into this project for as long as it takes
I think what annoys me the most about sieging is the fact artillery is so ass to build. Building one engine for it to be destroyed just sucks, doing the quick send to reserve is no guarantee either.
>>2274448
I love Vlandian cogs
>>2274451Too late in period, go earlier like >>2272946 >>2272422
>>2274455
>>2273936>>2273949>>2273992>>2274112pls respond
>>2273992Very good late level character as if you're doing all the fighting yourself late game, you're doing it wrong and risk getting killed
>>2274441He made the RBM troop trees a very long time ago when the Sturgians were basically notNords. That's why they have "Ulfheddins" who are... not dressed in any Wolf furs, and also why they have Axeman with... only a spear and a shield.He probably assumes 99% of people who use RBM either don't have refined taste in troop trees, or uses their own custom troop tree.My changes to the Sturgians was to rectify some of the retarded changes TW made with the War Sails patch, but to summarize:>Gave the Line Breakers back their 2h axes instead of the new 2h maces (much worse). Also renamed them to Vanguards instead of Line Breakers>Replaced javelin cavalry with horse archers, and renamed them from brigands to Trapper > Raider > Veteran Raider>Changed noble tree significantly>The first three tiers are (now) much better looking infantry troops with a very diverse set of equipment, named Adventurer > Hardened Adventurer > Hero. Various sets of equipment, everything from 1h + shield + 2h to 1h mace + shield to 2h + throwing.>Tiers 5 and 6 are Companion and Druzhinnik or Bogatyr. Tier 5 is basically heavy cavalry with lance + shield + 1h sword + 2h axe.>Druzhinnik is the same as vanilla except better looking equipment + 2h axe>Bogatyr is a heavy horse archer with 1h + shield + bow & arrow>A lot of cosmetic changes to all other Sturgian troops + some renamings, fur hats in early tiers, heavy cloaks in early to mid tiers, and utilizing some of the newer equipment across the mid to high tiers.>Gave the Sturgians back round shields, to reflect their shared history with the Nords, in the early to mid tiers. Kite shields for high tier units.Nords, minor changes:>Added helms to troops with missing helmets in some equipment loadouts>Switched out Sky God's Chosens shield for another quiverMore minor changes:>All militia archers adjusted so the veteran militia archer actually has a higher tier bowMost minor change:>Gave proper neck armor to Palatine Guard
>>2274441>>2274497Also the RBM troop tree, despite being ugly as fuck, is probably well-balanced. But yeah I'm waiting for De Re Militari to get updated. Once it is, I'll use it as a base and then adjust it heavily myself.
So what the fuck is blade even good at? Why would I pick him over magik if I want to use my sword? Why would I pick him over any range dps if I wanted to shoot? His lifesteal is irrelevant and has a downside for some reason lol
retinues sure is a massive gold sink
>>2274478>>2274478yesyes but lords can die in battle and new clans will be generated to replace them iircdepends on your goal, use the console command (alt + ~) with commands >campaign.export_hero <hero name, player character is main_hero> | <file name>>campaign.import_ something I forgot, it will appear in the suggestion
>>2274515Is this in vanilla?
Why can't I take control of my regular soldiers after I fall in battle? It exists in the multiplayer version....
>>2274528no, the retinues mod
>>2274529You can thougheverbeit.
>>2274538How
>>2274515house guards don't come nearly quickly enough, I like the idea of a free troop you can improve over time into being the best soldier but as you rank them up you need higher ranks of soldiers to convert into them... I wonder what the 'meta' for retinues is
Starting a new game. Do I go Battania culture for the MvP forest travel speed buff like normal, or is the Nord culture actually worthwhile if I want to do boat stuff?
So if the enemy gets 4 fire catapults up before I even get the siege camp built I am just completely fucked?I move my shit into reserve the moment it gets built but it still gets one shot regardless. I cant even get a single fire catapult built. So I just have to attack while the enemy fucked up my siege towers and ram with their fire catapults and be forced into the ladders. Cant starve them since it takes fucking in game years to starve out a garrison for whatever reason even when they have no food only like 2 people die a day
which mod is the best one to increase xp rates for not just myself but everyone? i know there's one mod that's usually mentioned but i cant seem to find it
>>2274557IDK if this is War Sails DLC exclusive feature but after you get fucked and are spectating you can take control of your units with E key. It has to be a normal guy, not a companion though and sometimes it's fucking retarded because you have to click through like 100 enemy units before you spectate a friendly.
>>2274571used to be https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883675274you're going to need to update it manuallyhttps://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/4630?tab=postscheck the reply chain
>>2274377Not a geography autist myself, but iirc center west Anatolia has a number of valleys and steppe plains. I remember reading that the Seljuks had such an easy time sweeping across the region partly because of how familiar the terrain was to them.>>2274451That pic is around 13th-14th centuries. This is closer to the BL time period.
>>2274579I checked all the hotkeys, googled it, and even asked chat gpt how to do it or if there were mods. Couldnt find anything and the chat gpt just said it was impossible. I swear to god if I could just cycle through troops and it's a vanilla option the whole time I'm going to be so confused
>>2274587
>>2274588>even asked chat gpt how to do it I regret helping you out now.
>>2274591Nyooooo come back
>>2274588>and it's a vanilla option the whole timeLiterally happened when War Sails dropped. I easily took control of my dudes after I fell, git gudReal talk, the keybinding menu sucks ass
>>2274594>it took 5 years to enable an option that worked in multiplayer already
>check out this mod>discord linkwhat's wrong with moddb? no kittens? fucking trannys
I hate that most of the troop mods just can't help themselves but do stupid shit like give entirely new troop types to factions or change identity of existing ones or merge noble and normal troop trees when all I'd ask for is more variety in existing loadouts. Right now most of the troops have maybe two or three varieties even if they're "irregular" so if you actually manage to get bunch of them they just look like clones.Another one of my wishlist items would be giving each clan (or more appropriately - each clan's home lands) unique variations of units but that's probably too much for the existing system.
>>2274612I think that the banner system could be expounded upon. Except instead of for per captain it should be per party leader or clan leader and it modifies the way certain troops look + a buff to skills or something. Could be dropped in battle or not, i dont really care. I just think there's definitely a way to do it without that much effort
>>2274619 expanded not expounded*
>>2274567bro, your trebuchets?
>>2274612The slight variations of a base unit based on the clans fiefs is a fantastic idea, but considering how quickly fiefs change hands in Bannerlord, it would never work. If fiefs changing hands were a rare event following wars, it could work.
>>2274208>>2270640Discord in itself isn't even a bad thing, it's actually rather convenient, you just have to veto your moderator(s) carefully, one troon slipping through the cracks is all it takes to pozzify your entire server
>>2274239>>2274246If you have the required assets (models, textures etc) we could make this into a real mod
>>2274236Where did you get the ballista? Can you only get it for southern ships?
soooo what's the point in buying workshops when they're just permanently deleted if even for one day or week the town the workshop is located in is temporarily taken over by a hostile faction?
Best ships? Should I just stack heavies?
>>2274698Increases your trade skill.
>>2274701-_-
>>2274703Yea it's retarded. In warband they just shut down until hostilities ceased.
>>2274705do you know of any mod that makes them temporarily unavailable for income but doesnt destroy them? the only workshop mods i can find are straight up cheats like MORE INCOME or NO LIMIT
>>2274497"Companion" and "Druzhinnik" are essentially the same word (or rather, used to be in that time period)
>>2274710Nah I only played bannerlord for 5 hours before warsails came out, i'd like that too and a mod to make alleys not totally worthless.
>>2274711yeah i know
>>2274431>Certain neighbourhoods (like Zeugma, now Unkapanı [tr]) were known to be pro-Green, and others (like Pittakia) were known to be pro-Blue. The Greens tended to be more working-class than the Blues, and were better represented among craftsmen, artisans, port-workers and countryfolk. Meanwhile, the Blues were better represented among elites and government officials, as well as the Jews. >The demes caused disturbances not only in Constantinople, but as far away as Syria and Egypt. For example, according to John Malalas, in 490 the Greens started a pogrom and massacred the Jewish population of Antioch, until Theodore, the Prefect of the East, suppressed them. When Emperor Zeno, who was a supporter of the Greens, heard of it, he joked "Why did you burn only the dead Jews? It was necessary to burn the living Jews as well."[11]Holy fuck kek nothing ever changesalso this is why we need intra-culture factions being more significant than ratty, landless clans just fucking around on the map being pseudo-bandits. Cities should have whole factions that are represented by the notables that occasionally start shit, fight eachother, their lords, or foreign occupiers, and that relate to the different guilds of the local industry, ethnic groups, followers of a lord or another, religious sectarianism(like keepers of the flame) etc. Be cool if we had rioting and assassinations going on all the time, maybe then stealth would be good for something
>>2274246>MilitiaSomething to note when talking about custom troops, considering the game already have militia, naming them conscript or levy always works better, in fact that's what they did in Bannerlord with the Vlandian, the levy crossbowman is supposed to be the weird ancestor of the Swadian militia and Rhodok crossbowman.imo one of the twist for Vlandia should have been that their militia should be much better equipped than everyone else's militia (aside from the empire maybe), with padded caps, gambeson and sometime light crossbows, to match the Swadian militia.
>>2274713Then rename companion into grid/griden or something like thatI'd also make bogatyr the melee troop and druzhinnik the horse archer, names feel more appropriate that way
So with the state of War Sail, the question comes to mind: How will they botch the other historical events? Swadia/Rhodok rebellion, the Great Horde, the disputes of the Sarranid and the Khergit, the factions outside Calradia, ...
>see that RBM got updated>start new game>do the stealth quest>stab guy in the back>dies, but instantly alerted nearby people looking away>lmao wut?>try again, same thing happens>third try>I hit the shield and get blocked>mfw that's probably what has been making noiseShould I just ditch RBM for now?
>>2274742The intent behind giving the companion and druzhinnik 2h axes was to make them good when dismounted as well. I upped their athletics for that very reason. Meanwhile the Bogatyr is meant to be a heavily armoured horse archer that can hold his own in melee when on foot, hence 1h+shield but not very high athletics.The naming, sure I could've done a better job of it, but I didn't wanna spend an additional hour thinking about good naming conventions to come up with.
>>2274747Devs don't care about lore, this is clear from non updated descriptions and lore in encyclopediaNot to mention minor factions being so barebones.Which is a shame since I am one of the anons which cares deeply about it.
Mount & Blade has lore?
>>2274699big Vlandian ships
>>2274260>>2274269Gotchu thanks
>>2274937>Like the vlandian ships the most because of that pleasant roundness, very tall deck and they're the shortest heavies so easier to not get stuck between multiple ships.>But they get no rams.Damn it... so close...
>>2274949rather ironic how "F1-F3 Cavalry Charge - Sun Tzu" faction can't ram
>>2274634I thought fire catapults are better for damaging siege engines? The enemy gets 4 fire catapult built, and the second i build anything and put it in reserve they all focus fire on it and delete it. I feel like a trebuchet will get deleted just as fast
Vlandia, Sturgia or Empire for my new character's birthplace?
>>2273781>do this partial redesign to try to match the Warband and BannerlordKind of a foolish errand, maps are just too different besides some general coastlines on a more western side of the map. Warband's map was also just not detailed enough due to tech and choices they made at the time.
Is it, god forgive me for uttering these words, good already?
>>2274005Yeah, same problem for clan colors and soldier shields and such. They need to look mish mashed.
is it just me or do nord towns / cities generate quests exceedingly slowly? i just traversed the entire nord kingdom and found one quest
>>2274164How do you do it?
>>2274497>>Replaced javelin cavalryCringe, that was a thing in Eastern Europe. >Gave back round shields, two handed axes,Now that is cool and good.
>>2274388Upload it.
>>2274414>troop editorI never fucked around with this mod, but I read that you can make specific options for recruitment, like specific troops for certain clans. I wonder, can you make for certain locations be able to recruit different troops, and so that AI lords can do it too.You could make new Vakken troops in certain parts of Sturgia and Nordland, as example.
>>2274814Yeah, I enjoy city and village (region) descriptions in Bannerlord.
>>2275193nta but desu with a single, easy C# patch you can make anything spawn anywhere you want. I had to patch it for my elite recruits in castle mod so I knowthe type of notable ? checkthe type of the settlement ? donethe kingdom ? You're going to have a lot of troop trees to make but easyyou could easily take a castle for each minor faction and have it spawn their troopsso far the only thing I couldn't do is having the marine troops spawn in ports only (with a custom troop tree for the marines), but I just started working on it so it might be possible
>>2274748Get a mod that restores old hideout attacks and ignore stealth.
>>2275226>so far the only thing I couldn't do is having the marine troops spawn in ports onlyYeah, I want something like that but as "cultural regions" So basically some lands have additional Vakken recruits, some empire areas have Palaic or whatever region inspired troops and so on. I assume it's possible to do that with Troop Editor, I just never fucked around with it.
So in the Kingdom Diplomacy screen, how exactly is the "total strength" of a kingdom calculated by the game? Should I be using it as a reliable estimate of "manpower"? Is it just a combination of garrisons, armies, and tiers?
getting a crash mid-battle during the deserter extortion mission but better exception window isn't catching the cause for it, where's the crash logs from the native game?
>>2275239the most compatible way would be to patch the DefaultVolunteerModel.GetBasicVolunteer method, and have case switch for each settlement you want to have a specific troop spawn from I'm surprised de re militari hasn't been doing something similar already, I would if I was him.
>>2274269>>2275155
>>2275031>I feel like a trebuchet will get deleted just as fastyou're feeling is wrong. i build trebuchets without outting them into reserve and they destroy all enemy catapults.
>>2275293>>2275340Ah, so you edit the files. Sounds time consuming and annoying. I think Troop Editor should to it quicker. But as I said, not tested it out yet.
>>2275139lmao
>>2275249there was a post in the forum about it. it wasn't detailed and idk if it was bullshit.
>>2274683I could make the world map at bestarmor and weapons would have to be sourced from vanilla, kitbashed, or taken from mods.
>>2274814
>>2275359Troop editor is certainly simpler though I thought the file editing would be much worse then it actually was. Really it was just a bunch of "control f" searching for equipment ids and the copy and pasting. I don't know if any of the mods are actually updated but my edits are working so far with each fix posted.
>sail downriver in Aserai lands to siege their castles way in the rear>want to draw their parties away from the frontline>siege castle>out of fucking nowhere 1 day later 3 parties of 100 men show upok well I guess thats what I wanted, but do these faggots just spawn out of thin air nearby? They got there way too fast
>>2274667I mean you can make it more of a geographical thing than clan-based. Think how Empire is divided, all of them should have mostly the same tree but with slight differences and maybe a couple unique units for each. Vlandians could have a more cosmopolitan guys near border with Empire and guys more used to heat and "crusading" down south. Aserai could have also a more cosmopolitan guys in the west, more deep desert guys in the middle and more of an Iranian vibe down east. Sturgia could have guys that are more Nord-like up North, and then guys that are based on west/east Slavs on either side of that lake canal respectively. Khuzaits could have both the main horsefucker guys but also maybe remnants of some local culture they conquered or whatever, not sure about the lore. Battanians are a bit hard though since they're so concentrated geographically but I suppose differentiating them by clans would work decently here, different tartans and all, or just highland/lowland/water Battanians or something.Having different types of looters and more bandits would be great, especially for War Sails since it's just either Sea Raiders (Nord) or Corsairs (Aserai), what about generic Empire pirates or Sturgian Lake Rats, some form of Vlandian/Battanian river pirates and maybe a bunch of lake dwelling pirates that used to be one of the cultures Khuzaits pushed into that lake in the east.And THEN you give each clan an unique specialty unit in the noble tree.The possibilities are pretty much endless.
>>2275607Yes (with like 50 free guys each time) but also depending on age of your save you are looking at them having so many parties it's impossible to go anywhere without there being a bunch of them.
>another updateAnd there goes everything down the drain. I'm tired.
>>2275193I like being able to commission troops in Taverns.
>>2275674You should know better.
>>2275404kek
>pull up to tiny coastal village>time to billage ;DDD>40 man militiafucking roaches managed to make war crimes boring
>>2275751>how dare they defend themselves?
>>2275809yeah but now i'm making no money from raiding because I have to roll up with an army just to get some raw silk that's worth fuck all, I miss riding down farmers in warband, shit was profitable back then
>>2275858So attack the villagers instead of the village. If you get them on their way from the village to the city they are loaded with trade goods
Is the new campaign stuff interesting? I always go sandbox.
>>2275916It's just a shitty quest about saving your retarded family, skip it
these skyboxes make battles kino
>>2273777Press spaceI feel like people don't know about space
>>2271620Perhaps give them some sort of Proto-Rhodok secessionist problems?
>>2275929YES the beautiful light on the seas is ultra kino. Try moving your camera below the water where the bodies are sinking too it looks amazing
>>2270433>the swastika flag code doesn't work anymoreBummer.
>this stealth tutorialFuck is this a joke? I appreciate the realism of them being able to see you from 200 meters away I guess, but it's not very fun.
>>2274442feels like more splash damage so if you aim it towards the middle of a deck you'll kill more people and don't have to nail them directly. I haven't tried the grapeshot versions.>>2274688I got it from Argoron/Diathma. I've been trying to find a port that sells the super ram because so far I only have one on a ship that came with it.
>>2276055That town at the mouth of Aserai river has it. Sanala, I think. It also has sails and better cladding. Siege equipment and assorted (sails again) usually Empire tier 3 shipyards, Diathma in the north, don't remember names for south.Better oars I've only seen in Thronderlag up north with Nords.>>2274688Dromon (heavy Empire), Dromakion (medium Empire), Roundship (heavy Vlandian), Ghurab (heavy Aserai), Qalguk (heavy Khuzait).
Is there genuinely any point in using the Drakken ship aside from roleplay reasons? I've only been using longboats on my Nord so far but from what I'm seeing, they have the worst ships.
>>2276089so you can say RELEASE THE DRAKKEN upon every naval battle still roleplay I guess
>>2276089Roleplay I guess mainly. I don't know why you would use any ship that can't have an artillery piece on it since they delete entire crews off decks and it's really easy to bully the AI around the bow of your ship.
>>2276106does artillery not cut into profit?
>>2275929The weather effects too
>>2276113snow used to look like this SAD
>>2276089Battanians have the worst ships. They don't even get a heavy ship at all.Drakkars have shallow draft, high speed and high sea worthiness making them really good if you just want to get places quick, and for battles they have the highest deck capacity at 106 and really high top speed both with sails and oars. Sure, Dromons and Ghurabs and such carry more total, but you're only getting like 80 guys on deck on them. Of course this matters little for most part since AI is stupid and retarded but you could absolutely load yourself up with tons of strong mariner units and slap people's ass from side/behind where their siege and rams don't reach.
>>2276089Nord ships should have the ability to land anywhere that isnt a steep rock cliff any time. The point of sea raiding is literally to spring from out of nowhere, rape and pillage real quick and leave before anyone can fight you. They should make OP Vlandian and Imperial ships require actual docks.
>>2276169If the nords leave their ships on shore, should they be vulnerable? Or maybe you can set it up to where you leave them manned with some of your army
>>2276169Definitely a few tweaks they could do like making them take a lot of damage beaching on a non dock or take more time dismounting based on the type of ships
>>2276173i figure that could be a whole mechanic of its own, leaving troops, or using your roguery skills to hide your ships with camouflage.
So what's up with smithing now.Can you still make throwing weapons worth tens of thousands of denars?Id it actually viable to make money WITHOUT cheesing through these orders?
>>2274521When I try to do it it says cheat mode disabled.why did they add this in such a fucking weird way?The original games had a Export/Import button and it was easy.
>>2276296Find your settings file txt in documents folder and enable it from 0 to 1
>>2276289you can still make a very nice early game profit with 1 steel + 1 wood + 1 charcoal = crooked looking nearly max damage javelin
>>2276301Well damn this fucks with a lot of shit.So I have to edit a text file every time I want to import and export a character?wtf
>>2276323It should save the cheat setting forever idk what you mean by that
>>2276325I mean I tried opening my inventory and the game froze for 5 seconds to load a trading menu with every single item in the game for me to take.I don't want that to happen every time I open my inventory.
>>2276308Am I better off breaking down trash weapons for parts then?
>>2276333>>2276323>>2276308>>2276301Alt + ~ to open the consoleconfig.cheat_mode 1Use your cheatsconfig.cheat_mode 0All in game and only takes a second
Is there any way (or mod) to save a characters appearance? I'm tired of playing slider roulette
>>2276513Thank you.>>2276515Ctrl+C in-game then Ctrl+V in text editor.
Will adding (or removing) RBM mid-save fuck my shit?
>Nord husband impregnates me for the first timeUWU
>>2275674My save is still working :)
>taverns are all now compleatly empty except for "important" NPCs>Important NPCs just group up by the front doorThis is so fucking lame. Why did they do this?
>>2275674If youre a modder just wait like a month bro why not
>>2275751Militia suck ass even a group of 40 things one step above a recruit should beat themEspecially if your character is capable of combat you can kill 10 or so yourself.
>It's another episode of "Every single fucking Guild Master has the same fucking job and it's fucking cattle herding"Time to go play something else, I guess.
Well restarting the game seemed to fix the issue. Must have been a bug.
havent played for like two years, why are looters and other un-shielded units block gods now?
>>2276045I think they broke stealth in a recent update so shit don't work.
>>2276623always have been.
>Reputation above 75>BRING OUT THE JEWS.Stop with the coin clipping
>>2276669>reputationmorale or whatever the fuck its called
>Another Khuzait war>Another march through snowy plains>Another battle fought down to the teeth>Another rush to defend the same castle>Another allied army annihilated>Another Khuzait warLet it end...
>>2270433Have the devs added some form of succession yet? If not do you think they will? Its literally a big part of the plot and lore
Is there a command to instantly build siege engines?
>>2276572Did they really? That's a fuck up.
>>2276623https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/7719
Best culture for fucking up pirates and owning a gorillion caravans? Are the Vlandian merc bonuses better or worse than outrunning everyone on land with the Battanian forest move speed?
>>2276702No, you will have to wait for the mod update, but yeah, it's stupid that most factions using open elective system with is best suited mostly for Nimps.https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/5219?tab=description
>>2276735My guess is nord cause they all have mariner troops but idk
>>2276747But like, I can recruit their troops regardless of my culture. Couple missions in, and those notables will be paying me to throw their sons into the blender of battle
>>2276752Oh you meant you personally I thought as a faction in general. Also I dont think your caravan can be selected for troop types...
>>2276762Yeah, I meant for my MC's culture.>Also I dont think your caravan can be selected for troop types...Probably not. Don't caravans get generic hired guards, like the guys you can pick up in the taverns?
>>2276769Yeah youre probably right and the sea ones all probably get naval bonuses anyway so maybe not nords as the best.
Should I still go to Sturgia when looking for heavy infantry, or did the Nords steal the good troops?
>>2276770Naval convoy guards do in fact get naval bonus but so do essentially all pirates.>>2276783They're mostly fine, Line Breakers now use a mace so they're generally worse against low tier troops but arguably better against high tier but other than that the changes to them were mostly cosmetic. If you were using them before you won't notice much of a change in performance.Nords are at least comparable from what I've seen, though two of their top tier melee units drop helmets for furry hats, but their noble line is also infantry melee, so that might be better.
>>2276783I think sturgia is still technically better at heavy troops but nord gets throwing axes so they will win versus them
>>2276803>though two of their top tier melee units drop helmets for furry hatssilly TW
>promoting troops>can become either dude covered in chainmail with a shield or naval dude who looks like a wet peasant in leatherAre naval troops actually worth it?
time for a new campaign, do I buy the DLC or not? don't really care about naval shit but will Steam mods work better?also Sturgia or Vlandia for a big mace CLONKER playthrough?
>>2276816Sturgians are now dedicated big mace clonkers with Linebreakers getting them.
>>2276816I think the new map alone is worth it for the upgrade. Not sure if base game got the alliance thing either. I think youll change your mind about the boat battles too
So is it not possible to change the appearance of companions anymore?The one mod I used last time I played is over a year out of date.
RBM is dogshit>javelin does literally nothing to armor>swords are useless, so T6 Imperial Infantry are useless
>>2276837>he doesn't enjoy walking into tournaments and dominating because NPCs can't into stamina and drop their weapons
>>2276837I really wish you lads read mod descriptions before downloading them>javelin le badaim for the facejavelin is your bread and butter against shields, they mulch them
How do I make the waifus prettier? Does Bannerlord have lewd mods?
>>2276837You forgor >shields on the back now block backstabs in the new stealth system>also fucks with the noise produced so lmao good luck
Is roguery actually worth having now? Can I stealth archer my way through entire garrisons like it's skyrim?
>>2276844It does have very rudimentary lewd mods, the biggest one that actually had some content and used an events system is not updated yet though.It did have some shitty in-game animations that sucked but mostly operated on text and random rule34 images.
Damn this sailing tutorial is ever harder than the sneaking one.Fighting three of these pirates at once with no weapon is hard as fuck.
ship units die too much, you can very easily assemble squads to minimize losses in field battles but it seems like every time ships meet it's a meat grinder
>>2276851>no weapon is hard as fuck.Lmao how did you drop the chain?
Can I steal and sell pirate ships? Is it an okay way to get quick cash in early game?
>>2276855you get defeated ships if they aren't too damaged (they usually are)
Man I'm so used to the Sea Dogs sailing.This wind direction indicator is completely backwards.
>>2276856But can I sell them off for a decent profit?
>>2276857wdym, sea dogs had an arrow and here you have a wind blowing in the direction icon instead of arrow
>>2276860You get like 1/4th of their price which is few thousand to few dozen thousand depending on the ship. It's okay, though the bigger balancing issue is that pirates are pretty much universally 50-70 guys on three ships so you need a similar number of people to compete and if you have low tier units your shit will get pushed in, especially by Sea Raiders that have decent armor, strong throwing weapons and make short work of any non-mariner unit in melee, so I'd argue it's not really an early game thing, even if you can get a small ship for couple dozen men for about 10k.
>>2276861It would just be more natural for me if it was reversed. The arrow and color indicators being the direction the wind is coming from, like real life, instead of the way the wind is going.
>>2276865Mod will probably do it soon
>>2276864>and make short work of any non-mariner unit in meleeDo non-mariner units get fucked up stat-wise in ship battles? Can your character get fucked up in the same way if wearing certain gear?
>>2270433I picked up Warband again and i've played it until 5 am in the morning again for a week straight.
>>2276876Gear doesn't matter, it's literally just a trait. You get a penalty too and I think it gets better based off your Mariner skill, said skill also reduces the penalty of your party in general.What are the actual stats? I have no fucking clue but I can definitely notice a difference in damage against Mariner units and non-Mariner units, especially early on in campaign.
>shield on back blocks backstab
>>2276946>rbmdeserved. we play warbandlord here.
>>2276949why the hype?all it does it boosts armor valuesforce field shields are still a thing
>>2276954it lowers HP to make them like warband.it integrates armor material type so armor is not just a total value.it adds some optional speed modifactions but i just disable them.
>>2276954and it lowers shield HP to make them like warband.
>>2276965RBM lowers the Hp value of Shields as well>>2276962from my experience with it, it barely matters you will be ditching cloth/leather asap anyway and going for mail/plate
>>2276968rbm makes arrows SHIT. warbandlord balances them like warband instead. not OP but not weak either.>you will be ditching cloth/leather asap anyway and going for mail/plateit matters for troops.
nothing quiet as satisfying as a well stocked larder
>>2275359>>2275493use this mod and it becomes really easy, really fast https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/2786?BH=1
>>2277027basedi prefer PN but the modder isn't in the mood to update it
>>2277027Ehem, what mods.
>passive incomes is useful nowWhen will this major bug get fixed?
>>2277052it's not a bug. after all the complaining, THE DEVS LISTENED!!!!!idk under which conditions they'd fix the game. maybe they'll fix it a little before every dlc release and after 10dlcs, we'll finally have a fun base game?
>>2276962>it lowers HP to make them like warband.Why anyone would think this is a good thing is beyond me, peak warband brainrot
>>2277061>fix one thing>fuck up other things
>>2277063because bringing weapon and armor balancing to warband level but keeping the HP as it is would be retarded.i guess that's something else i missed. it changes weapons dmg too. >>2277068they're working on it™
>>2277069>they're working on it™Did they made promises to fix hideouts, bring back old assaults as an option?
>>2277072i don't think so
>>2277072What happened with hideouts?
>>2277073As I said, they fuck up things. >>2277074Can't attack them with your team of picked team of men, just stealth bullshit or auto resolve now. Also shit loot, and perks that are still there despite this "rework", but these are minor things, for me it's the fact they removed a gameplay feature/option.
>>2277075Ah yes, just what this game needed, mandatory stealth sections.
>>2277069Warband shield HP was gay and retarded.
>>2277079the super thick shields in bannerlord are retarded
>>2275920>shittyYou mean even shittier than the whole dragon banner crap?
>>2276147Why do devs hate battanians this much? Literally why don't they get a heavy when even fucking landlubber khergits of all people do
>>2277109Fians absolutely fucking rape everything even on water and it's not like they can't use other nations models of ships if they capture more towns.
>>2276572They heard you guys still prefer warband so they made it just like in warband :^)
>>2277089That's cute, but it's WRONG
>>2277109lore accurate
>>2276865>anything other than grapeshot on a 5th rate
>>2277109>why do the devs hate forest bandits so much?
>>2276924What mod are you playing? For me it's vasnar, I've been doing nothing but hunting apostates and undead for the last five days or soI also had high hopes for that hohol mod but it turned out to be basically wfas without gunpowder (=fucking boring), I wish they'd just remake wfas instead of moving it a century earlier
>>2277117it's retarded AND gay. shields are not supposed to be that strong.
>>2277137Shields ARE supposed to be strong. Nobody would use shields IRL if they just shattered in four hits like in warband. The bonus from the Bonus Against Shields flag was also grossly overtuned, axes are not fucking lightsabers
>>2276837You're used to playing the game without RBM. Try stabbing with swords instead, you'll see just how overpowered they actually are compared to other weapon types.
>>2276089They have higher health, better cargo and can house more troops. So they're more durable than Longboats. They're straight up better than Longboats.None of the Sturgian and Nord boats are intended for ramming or ship-to-ship combat, they're simply meant to deliver the troops to the enemy ships as quickly as possible.
>>2277147>Combatants were permitted a specific number of shields (usually three) they could use>axes are not fucking lightsabershow long do you think you can lift a shield that has 4 axes in it?same goes for javelins. since you can't simulate not being able to lift a shield that has so much weight on it, shattering it entirely is a plausible solution.
>>2275177Should be here, let me know if the link has expired and I'll upload it again.>>2274414
>>2277147Historical shields are way thinner than you're thinking. A 2 handed axe (though ahistoric as a battlefield weapon) would just rip most of it straight off your arm.
>>2275174>Cringe, that was a thing in Eastern Europe.Yeah maybe, but for the Sturgians specifically I think horse archers makes more sense and it's also just better from a gameplay perspective, considering their proximity to the Khuzaits. Tyals lore even states clearly that they have a lot of connections with the Khuzaits.The Sturgian horse archers are not exactly going to demolish you like Khan's Guard, but they are durable and do get some kills. They skirmish well while the Sturgian infantry advances or waits for the enemy to advances.
>startup a new sandbox>couple years go by>nords stomping the shit out of khuzaitsThis. This is the playthrough.
>>2276946Approach them slightly from the right, and use a right swing attack, this bypasses the shield - and I actually appreciate the need to do this with RBM. Makes stealth attacks a bit riskier and require more precision.
>>2277163Ok, but you shouldn't remove javelin cav for that, should be additional unit. Or as I said, game needs regional units, so you could recruits them in eastern Sturgian lands, but not the western.
>>2277169If I could've kept both without bloat, I would've. I just didn't want to just bloat the Sturgian troop tree more than it already has become with the addition of Marine troops.But your suggestion would be ideal, regional troops. I'm not a modder though, just a troop editor autist.
>>2277172I think Troop Editor mod could allow you do that, I have not tried it, but I believe it allows for regional (well, specific settlements) recruitment, even specific clans.
I'm playing around with my cringe romeaboo larping, any thoughts on which of these looks better? It really is the gauntlets and boots that I am stuck on as neither of these really fits with a crossbowmen and the vambraces looked odd with the golden armour. I am leaning on the fantastical side here with the design.
Old bandit hideouts were gay.>tell your top 9 chads to charge>wait 5 minutes>behead the bandit chief or gank him with your chadsAt least the stealth is somewhat interesting
>>2277159>since you can't simulate not being able to lift a shield that has so much weight on itJust decrease the shield's speed value based on the amount of stuff stuck in it? Alternatively make shield raising speed depend on its weight which is dynamically increased by the weight of whatever is in it, and make an upper weight limit above which it can no longer be used. This is piss easy, I could have coded it myself assuming all those values are exposed and can be changed by mods (don't really know much about bannerlord's internals)
>>2277186Speak for yourself, I liked small scale fighting and I always made my team fallow me and we fought together, now those TW tards removed this from me.
>>2277175I'll look into that. If that's true then I'll give the mod authors a few weeks to update all their mods, and once things settle a bit, I might take some time to do just that for all the cultures.
>>2277186this put just press ctrl+v with superspeed mod
>>2277159>Combatants were permitted a specific number of shields (usually three) they could useNext you're going to tell me war lances were designed to break
>>2277180Both look kinda ass to be honest but the left one at least looks more plausible, the gauntlets on the right are too bulky and give the impression that his arms are better protected than the rest of his body, they'd fit a heavy plate armor knight but not a crossbowman, same with boots
>>2277187>Just decrease the shield's speed value based on the amount of stuff stuck in it?Would then also need a mechanic to make them unstuck, which would allow you to choose, stop and fix your already damaged shield, or drop it (maybe pick up another one instead).
>be me>first time doing nu-hideout>MGS my way through the sentries>I am the darkness>walk around that shiny bonfire of stealth-killing light>sneak past the drunk idiots>hit alt as I attempt to figure out what to do>mfw I was supposed to do something with that weird fire>mfw the drunk idiots saw me as I tried to sneak past them again>mfw couldn't figure out how to use the fire as they start throwing spears at me>mfw mission failedLmao what the fuck
>>2277200Yeah I agree, this one is really just me playing around. The boots on the left are very bulky as well though it is way less noticeable with the shine of the right. Honestly I might just leave it as is, it's just with my edit of the Legionary to be more ahistorically Western Roman it feels weird to have Byzantines in my rear line as crossbows.
Sluttiest armor for my pirate warrior queen?
I want the various shit stuck in my shield to add damage to my shield bashes
>>2277208Yeah, fuck that shit. I want to pay the iron price, not sneak around.Bring back old hideout attacks so that we don't need to deal with this faggotry.
>>2277187the game doesn't simulate arm tiredness from lifting shields with shit embedded in them. the character balance will shift with shit embedded on the left arm and make the whole movement awkward. i'm going to pull it from my ass but i doubt people kept using shields with shit embedded in them and just opted to discard them entirely.>>2277195i'm not ausw what you mean, anon. are real war lances designed to break just like tournament lances?
>>2277210Don't overthink it anon, I'm sure they'll both look great when in big numbers
>>2277219Likely, unless maybe they were in a heath of battle and couldn't do that, but probably ideally you would retreat to the back line then as another guy with shield takes your place, if possible.
>>2277220I'm going to give it a go and take some screenshots later, perhaps the sun bloom will save me.
I just installed Retinues mid way through my Nord playthrough. Need some ideas for cool custom troop trees for regular troops, noble troops and retinues.I'm thinking since I'm a Nord culturally, I'll want to focus on infantry for the most part, but maybe I'll add like one branch of regular troops that would fullfill a role of a light armored shock cavalry. And then what? Could have a main regular branch be shield/axe/throwing weapons, and maybe a second branch for archers, but what should I do with the noble lines and retinues in that case?
>>2277219>spoilerNo, I was quoting the guy bringing up something from holmgang, which was a ritualistic duel and not actual combat, to prove that shields broke often
>>2277204That would make sense from a realism view, but not from game balance view, it would be a severe nerf to javelins and thrown axes to be able to just undo their most important effect >>2277219The game doesn't simulate any kind of tiredness at all to be fair, I don't think shields specifically deserve a whole stamina mechanic added just for themThe way I'd have done shields is make them completely unbreakable and repurpose the shield HP bar into weight bar. The more projectiles are stuck in it, the slower it becomes to raise and move around, and once full the agent automatically unequips it. Obviously it's not realistic but would make for better gameplay>but how is this different from it just breaking after suffering enough hits?1) How much weight is too much can be affected by your/soldier's stats or even the total weight of all equipment, unlike shield's durability which is fixed and cannot be plausibly changed (avoiding literal magic like warband's Shield skill making them more durable)2) Shields can only be rendered ineffective by ranged attacks and not melee, which forces melee troops to actually play around each other's shields instead of just swinging absentmindedly waiting for the other guy's shield to break already
>>2277240i am that guy. would they go so far as to make special easily breakable shields for duels?>ritualisticweren't they used as well as courts? not a religious thing.>>2277241but shields do splinter in melee. simulating shields properly is hard. idk if it's even doable.
>>2277241Javelins should be strong not just against shields to begin with. Their limiting factor is amount and bulkiness.
Javelins should have a chance of penetrating shields and dealing damage as if it hit an arm (for armor calculations)
>Combatants were permitted a specific number of shields (usually three) they could use – the opponent's strikes could break a shield. The challenged would strike first and then the combatants would hit each other in turn. The combat would normally end on the first blood and the winner would receive three marks of silver.What is this gay ass turn based combat shit
>>2277277This is for dueling anyway.
>>2277273>penetrating shieldsthey already do, level up your throwing skill
>>2277296>tfw control and intelligence are always my dump stats because melee combat is more fun and science is for nerds
>>2277303Javelins are fun to use love the headshots, especially in arena, where you get javelin or throwing axe. It's the bows and even more so the crossbows that I don't care for.
How do I actually motherfucking turn off aging? Toggling off the aging "mod" seems to do nothing
>>2277308Yeah, but I can never bring myself to throw focus points or anything into throwing. Doesn't seem worth it when I can only chuck at most 5 throwing weapons in a battle when I need 3 equipment slots for my sword, shield, and lance.
>>2277311Like, see, it's off here, what else do I need to do??
So what does fast mode actually do?
>>2277317For what it's worth slings are throwing and good sling/ammo combined with good stats makes them better than you'd think.
>>2277329Everyone ages and skills faster
>>2277326It's a separate option when you start a campaign. You can't change it midway through.
>ally horsenigger in front of me decides to just suddenly turn left for no reason>not only is my speed instantly nullified, but I'm also locked in an obnoxious animationGod I want to get back to bannerlord so bad please fix the mods already
Best starting faction? Is there a common strat to get into the mercenary stage quicker?
>>2277317Lance/spear, shield, sword/axe and javelins is how I roll.
>>2277338speaking of, i believe we should have damage upon impact in bannerlord. for frindlies as well as enemies.it makes no sense to just bump into enemy cav and nothing happens.
>>2277342Battania get less speed penalty in forests.hire troops and hunt bandots from the start until you are big enough to become a merc.
>>2277136Yeah i've been playing Vasnar too because of Soul Tomato, other than the usual Hispania type bs (I.E low bandit spawns without tinkering, mainly because of how huge the map is) i dislike it's a very quality mod. Currently rocking the Orimius armor, Firebolt, Heal, and Brass Long Axe, i wanted to play pure Kregan outrider type like my character, but the Kregan woods are so fuckin barren minus a few howlpacks. The woods should be filled with evil shit, bandits and ranger patrols fighting them.
very WIP but what do you think?
>>2277368i trust your autism
>>2277368wtf is this supposed to be
well I bought the DLC like you told me to and now my fans are giga loud at all times, thanks obama
>>2277381what it looks like, grafting the novel parts of bannerlord onto the warband base map
>>2277368That detached rhodok town looks good on paper but warband AI is completely incapable of dealing with such exclaves, you should put it no further than those little islands there. Same with nords, the AI will just shit itself the moment someone besieges one of those towns. The peninsula to the west of sarranids could be widened to house a brand new faction, like geroiaOtherwise I like it. Were you that anon that posted that bannerlord-in-warband map before?
>>2277368>Vaegir instead of Sturgia>Empire has 4 factions>Rhodogs on other continent too for some reasonno
>>2277303Int is always dump stat for me because they're all skills you can delegate and you already get stretched thin as it is.But on a roleplay aspect, it kinda grates on me because I don't like the idea that I'm playing a moron.
>>2277247Ritualistic doesn't mean religious, retard
>>2277402I always took it to mean book smart
>>2277151Imperial legionaries are the worst t6 unit in the game with rbm because they use sword
>>2277368Looks stupid aside from Battania being an objective improvement but the bar there isn't very high.
>Reach the open seas by avoiding enemy shipsI wish death upon whoever made this quest
>>2277501I reached the open seas after my ship started sinking from being on fire and everyone onboard died.It's fine.
>>2277396It's not 4 factions. The idea is that the Imperial Capital starts out as an independent city state with no lords and a weak garrison, and the three claimant factions automatically declare war on whoever holds the capital. It should help keep the civil war a little more active.>>2277392I wanna make it a bannerlord mod if I make it at all. I thought about putting in a Geroia but that's a brand new faction so it would be the last thing added.
>there is a throwable pilum in the game files>cheated one in and it didn't crash my game when I threw itSo why don't the Legionaries use it?
>>2277531Ah okay, thought you intended for it to be in warbandWhat's even the point then? Warband map's general geography is inferior to what we already have in bl
>>2277540Use mods or edit files and add them in. But considering the time period they should be using either some sort of javelin or maybe plumbata.
>>2277531There was a mod like that, maybe a bunch of them, where they split Vlandia into Swadia and Rhodocks, and other factions too, but it's fanficy for me.
>>2277368I think the warband map sucks and the original map is the most soulful to date
>>2277424>a fixed set of actions and words, especially as part of a religious ceremonyfuck you and your jewish revisionism.
>normally play khuzaits>i'll try something different this time>go with the sturgians >monchug asks me to become a vassalthe steppe is calling me bros...
>>2277647Khuzaits and Vlandia are too easy. i can't get myself to join them.
>>2277647>>2277650Khuzaits are that easy?
>>2277665>archers are OP>khan guards are the single best unit in the game>even when dismounted and told to hold fire
>>2277671Nice, too bad I hate the aesthetic
>>2277646>taking one part of a definition as the only definitionGo back to sperging out about feasts, warbandschizo
>>2277680>taking revisionist definitions at all
>>2277180>>2277200>>2277220>>2277226Honestly I thought they would look worse, I am not super proud of them but I can live with the result.
>>2277671>khan guards are the single best unit in the gamedoes he know?
>>2277734
>>2277736>>2277734These would be pretty good as veteran crossbowmen. The empire really needs to get a good make over, not just distributing better gear but also update the dogshit old vanilla ones, like all the mail coats that have really low res and bright textures, the kettle helmets that look rusty and dirty as hell, and the lack of variants. I wish modders tried that instead of adding a gorillion new stuff.
>>2277646"Ritual" doesn't always have to have a religious subtext. An OCD person checking every knob and switch before leaving his house is also a ritual. Teams singing their anthems before a game is a ritual. The whole Olympic torch thing is a ritual. Nothing jewish about it
>>2277734Actually they look much better than in the troop tree preview, the lack of blinding shine on everything sure makes a differenceTold you they'd look nice in numbers, good job anon
>>2277734>>2277736Looks good anon. I'd add in a few variants for some heterogeneity but that's just me.
>>2277755It's quite jarring that you can see at least three distinct different "quality levels" of assets. Some of the stuff looks almost like something from Warband, some of the stuff looks medicore but fine and some of the stuff looks really high quality.I think the only other game I've ever experienced something like that was Men of War series, but there they kept the same engine and just upgraded assets along the way, so Gates of Hell still has (very few, but still, and it's worse in MoW2) assets from 2004 RTS like barrels made out of like 8 triangles.
>>2277755The Empire feels to me a bit like Sturgia where some units seem to go all in on the lamellar whilst others still have simple chainmail shirts, I am coming at it from a aesthetic bias so I'm sure there is a reason for the discrepancy but it just vibes better for lack of better term then vanilla.>>2277764Thank you, I'm quite glad I stuck with it. I think the background really adds to them as well, gives them more room to breath.>>2277766I like the idea of variants, especially with Vlandians, though something about having Legionaries and Sergeant Crossbows be uniformed speaks to me - like the last hurrah of the dying Empire. I definitely think variation adds to all the other ranks aesthetics however, really shows the growing feudalistic nature of Calradia.
>>2277317>I can only chuck at most 5 throwing weapons in a battleI have two large packs of javelins and that gives me 22 throws with all the perks. So it's almost the equivalent of bow + quiver.
>>2277773The game went through several redesigns along the way since 2020 where we had actual ooga booga metalhead dork shit in Battania and they slowly reached the Bronze age around last year, the empire simply got better helmets and two good armor sets but the overal selection is still all baggy pajamas with a mail texture on it. It's wild that mods like Open Source Armory even bother making variants of dogshit models that nobody even likes to begin with but nobody tries coping the mail texture from Vlandian armors over to imperial ones. The mail coifs imperials have don't even match their own armors, they're actually more fitting with Vlandian mail coats.
bannerlord aesthetic
>>2277872That's a warband face if I've ever seen one.
>>2277129I like to be prepared for anything.I haven't played since the 1.5 and 1.6 updates so a LOT has changed in the game.After I've burnt myself out on Mountain Blade again, I'll probably go back to it to try out the new stuff.
>>2277873
>>227788510/10 in britain
>>2277735they were nerfed twice but i doubt they were dethroned
So do ship perks apply on land? The first Mariner perk (+25% weapon handling) looking real nice.
>>2277898doesn't seem like it, no
>>2277761>"Ritual" doesn't always have to have a religious subtext.modern revisionsts shits changed its meaning because they hate religion.>1560s, "pertaining to or consisting of a rite or rites," from French ritual or directly from Latin ritualis "relating to (religious) rites," from ritus "religious observance or ceremony, custom, usage," (see rite). By 1630s as "done as or in the manner of a rite" (as in ritual murder, attested by 1896). Related: Ritually.https://www.etymonline.com/word/ritual
>>2277901Which perks did you test?
>>2277933well the later one that causes javelins to deal damage through shields certainly doesn't work on landbut just in general, I don't feel like I have 25% more handling, 20% more damage, and 50% armor penetration and whatever other massive bonuses the perks granted.
>cant command the merchant ship our escorting>they just suicide charge the pirates despite having 1/3rd the crewKinda stupid. I swear with all the stuff they added and changed with this DLC and update, it feels like they didn't actually playtest any of it.
>>2276949>>2276954>>2276962I fucking hate RMB because it need a compatibility patch for everything and and messes with how bows work.>WarbandlordFor armor improvements.>Unblockable Thrust>Breakable Polearms>Troops Prefer SpearsTo make Spears not shit but put a certain limit to their capacity.>Stamina System>Realistic Combat AdjustmentsMakes combat more strategic without the overly complicated Poise system RBM has.>Easy Weapon PickupQoL>Improved Combat AI>Jack of All Trades>Organized Frontline Mod(Once they update)And you can tweak or disable everything from these mods to your liking, unlike with RBM. I recommend returning the moving speed in Warbandlord back to normal to make characters much faster with Realistic Combat Adjustments. Much more fun this way.
>>2277936>step on a boat>suddenly Poseidon grants you superhuman strength that you didn't possess back on landWhat utter retardation, might as well add dragon shouts from skyrim now
>>2277969The storylines were always a meme prolonged tutorial and the War Sails one is especially bad at this.>>2277933NTA but out of all the perks the only one I feel like might be working is the double kick damage because with it I constantly knock out people in tournaments with kicks. Might be placebo though.
>>2277994I kick a guy and he's already blocking again because I can land a weapon attack.Is the because I just started the game and my stats/weapons are shit?It WAS the combat tutorial in the very beginning I was trying this.
>>2277985I'd advise to just ditch RBM entirely, game being "unplayable without RBM" is literal self-inflicted brainwashing (or gaslighting as zoomers call it), I did and I'm enjoying the game more without it. You don't need RBM
So now that they've added naval combat we can expect a Age Of Sail mod soon right?
>>2277996I like the AI from it. I like the battle lines being formed instead of a mosh pit like vanilla
Is there any reason to give companions stealth gear?Do companions come with you on stealth missions?The only stealth I've done so far was the tutorial.
>>2278032It seems to be useless. The only place companions can show up seems to be hideouts. But only after you've already done the stealth part.
>>2278032Okay well I just got one to rescue my brothers.why THE FUCK do this missions "fail"? This is some rockstar level bullit. If I get discovered, I should have to fight my way out. Not get a god damn "game over" screen.
>>2278068I really do not understand this design desision at all. I like the hideout attacks.
>Execute every Khuzait lord I get my hands on>Retain merciful traitReally says a lot, doesn't it?
I mean how the fuck am I supposed to get past this?
Even standing still in a bush, they start to spot me.
>try to throw a rock for a distraction>you can to stand up to throw a rockI really don't get it. Did I miss something?
>>2278079>>2278085>>2278090interact with arrow barrel and fire a few steps back. That's the 'checkpoint' where you start the assault
>>2278076why are you wearing makeup
>>2278107Anglo-Saxon wives can't resist the sopisthication of a well-groomed viking.
>>2278107Wearing kohl around your eyes is authentic historical viking larp and also badass and cool too
What the fuck is exceeded capacity for my ships? Do I need to level grind just to have 4 fucking ships and not be slowed down?
>start new game>grind throwing/archery/crossbow to 200
>>2278090What mission even is that?
Damn those sea hounds aim is just way too good to complete this mission.
So they added slings, and no skills effect them?
Brigun my beloved. I love her goofy crooked smile. Currently passing time in our castle, undoubtedly making her extremely pregnant
>>2278005>So now that they've added naval combat we can expect a Age Of Sail mod soon right?God willing
What graphic setting removes this weird sort of glow around the lining?
>>2278212nvm found the fix
>>2278168People said throwing affects it and I assume the overall stat affects it too
I was a frequent enjoyer of the /k/ plays RTW3 series.I was wondering if you guys would be interested in something like that here or elsewhere, i.e. I start a sandbox campaign but will let /mbg/ decide what our character will be like, skills, role in the world, faction choices, etc.
>>2278220I'm down to read updates in posts but a full video is a bit too much time for me to commit to watching someone else play
Fast mode is a great addition. No need to grind skills. Family members become useful during the course of the game.
>>2278220Sounds like it could be fun
holy shit smithing is more aids than i remember, i can't gain enough xp because i can't build anything good because i don't have the right parts because i can't grind enough
rebuilding the southern empire
>>2277441No, they're good because they have very good armour - which is a big factor in RBM.Speaking of which, I've figured out why the Nords are so weak in RBM with vanilla troop trees; because their armour is dogshit. I will make some troop editor autism updates.
>>2278212>>2278214Well, what was the fix?
>>2278116very subtle esoteric varg referencebased>>2278123ships require two things to avoid speed penalty:- minimum crew required to sail all the ships in your fleet- cargo spaceif you don't meet the minimum crew requirement, you'll have a speed penaltyand the cargo space is the same as land inventory, the more you go over it the slower you are
no1 knows it but i'm secretly slavanon and i love the nords because TW got them right (somewhat historically accurate to 600 A.D - 800 A.D norsemen)and their positioning on the map is great as well, the sturgian/khuzait/nord borderlands are an amazing either intentional or unintentional representation of hypothetical contact (late 9th century "rus khaganate") between norsemen, eurasian nomads and slavic peoples.
>siege anything>a dozen parties with 80-100 men just keep spawning out of nowhere and eventually swarm me>Ok ill just bring an army with 1500 people instead of 800>now 2 dozen of those parties spawnSo how the fuck are you supposed to take anything
>>2278216That sounds completely overpowered
>>2278323Just win?
>>2277873Looks fine, not every one of them needs to have anime face. More realistic that way.
>>2278070Yeah, fuck them for removing old hideout attacks.
any simpchads in the chat?
>>2278359Sometimes. I either fuck around in Sturgia and Buhtanian or down south.But I only tend to marry Vlandian women.
where can I find a rhagaea lora? asking for a friend
finally unlocked bolts and what is this cost
>>2277773>It's quite jarring that you can see at least three distinct different "quality levels" of assets. Some of the stuff looks almost like something from Warband, some of the stuff looks medicore but fine and some of the stuff looks really high quality.its because TW is government funded and a majority of their devs are interns from turkish universities who work on bannerlord for 3-6 monts and then move on with their lives.i literally have a family friend who used to work for taleworldsin case you guys were wondering why basically everything in bannerlord is completely disjointed from the rest of the game
since battania is still in the bronze age, where are my chariots?
some more troop editor autism:https://we.tl/t-o1BxNqPrbwbalanced according to latest RBM version as of right nowchanges from last time:>nord troops made stronger on average, with overall higher armor values>nord spear warrior removed throwing weapon, to bring it in line with nord axe warrior>nord warfang and nord ulfheddin given javelins, to balance out the fact that they have lower armour compared to other tier 4 and tier 5 infantry units from other factions>nord berserkr and skjaldbrestr given better armor>nord huscarl and its pre-requisites given more consistent and better armoroverall they have very strong weapons, and now better armor overall. although the berserkr and shield-biter as well as the ulfheddin suffer from weak head armor. this was a design choice by TW which i wanted to keep while giving them good armor elsewhere to bring them up to speed to RBM balance. overall, unfortunately, those two nord infantry lines will be on the weaker end (overall) compared to tier 5 and tier 6 infantry units of the sturgians. but their offensive capabilities are still the best. the huscarl line should now be the strongest infantry units in the game without question.requirements:>RBM>troop editorjust replace the "TroopDesigner" folder under "Modules." should work according to anon here: >>2274441
>>2278363Make one, I guess.
>>2278368This is Troop Editor, right? Can you check if you can make specific recruits for specific settlements? (I know you can do that for specific clans).
>>2278377They are not in the Bronze Age tho, they use iron.
>>2278378also please backup your files, i have no clue what im doing and i dont wanna accidentally brick your guys' game
>>2278382I still want my chariots
>>2278380no, retinues
>>2278385Would not fit the period. We need Bronze Age Calradia setting. And Iron Age. Would be cool to see chariot races mod, aslo.
what do you think is the single best weapon imo
>>2278400Khan's Guard Glaive.
equipping my troops is costing too much money
Whoever decided that the same exact grips and pommels shared between multiple weapon types need to each be unlocked separately is a stupid sick asshole wormy bastard man. I hate this shit!!!
>kill army>there is a new army right awayare there mods that fix this behavior
aserai keep stomping imperials in battles
this battle was brought to you by thomas kinkade
Does RBM break the engage command? I use to be able to tell my cavalary to engage a specific unit (like the horse archers in the middle of flanking me) now whenever I use enagage they just charge forward at the enemy center
>>2278428https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/7945i have a mod for you if it ever updates
>>2277995Partially, yes. Combat AI difficulty has a huge impact, on normal 90% of your attacks even slow will go through because enemy won't raise the shield instantly, on challenging you do need good skills to be able to attack fast enough, unless you get lucky and the AI decides to not block you for whatever reason.
>1102>Conquer Hvalvik from the steamrolling Vlandians and establish a hard-to-dislodge island thalassocracy that rams anyone that tries to get close>get them to accept peace with no tribute after beating them enough>enjoying a rare breather on the island setting up defences, training and outfitting retinue/clan troops, raising the dozens about-to-come-of-age (fast mode) nephews, nieces, legitimate children and captivity events bastards, plowing my fields, my wife Ira, and my captivesisland life is so cozy
>>2278455>Does RBM break the engage command? I use to be able to tell my cavalary to engage a specific unit (like the horse archers in the middle of flanking me) now whenever I use enagage they just charge forward at the enemy centerThe engage command seems bugged overall right now, with or without RBM.
Oh sure I'll pay 3million denars to equip all of my soldiers with this armor.
>>2278472
>Get war sails>I'll do a Vlandia run fighting off the nords at sea!>No boat start in sandbox.>The cost boats is so prohibitive that I can't get enough to carry my army until I'm already steamrolling as a mercenary>Boat combat never happens unless you force it>Vlandia steamrolling the Nords before I even join thembruhDid the recent buffs fix the Nords? I feel like just restarting and doing a playthrough as them instead.
>rhagaea gives me personal orders :)>they're shit :(
>>2278483just cheat enough money to buy yourself a starting boat and crew
>>2278493But anon, her orders were to visit her personal bedchambers.
>/mbg/ now able to get 1000+ posts before dyingtime to go back to /vg/?
>>2278524on one hand yes, just to spite mechabreak faggots who stole /mbg/ tag (they are confimed to /vm/ now)on the other hand, it won't last and we all know it
>>2278524No, this board is better.
>>2278483just play the campaign and you get a boat
>>2278445yeah its called warband
I downloaded this mod, it spawned a bunch of Wanderers, but they're never appearing anywhere. Is my game bricked?https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/9269
>>2277195>Next you're going to tell me war lances were designed to breakpolish kopies(the winged hussar long lances) were empty inside and yes made to break, king was supposedly supplying them to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcYhYO02f98
>>2277368>battaniansand>rhodoxanon pls
>>2278369>its because TW is government fundedits opposite, its gov taken over and steal all profits
>>2278377no loicence so not allowed
>>2278474i miss warband pricing for items
>>2278515yeah, to empty chamber pots with night soil
>oxhall has a port and water on its battlemapturkworlds never change
>>2278631Did they remove the lake from near it or what?
>>2278680
>>2278708I don't get why they couldn't just leave a lake on one side of it.
one of the Empire towns should have been near the Calradic equivalent of a panama/suez canal>but it's the dark eages BROdon't care, Persians at Hellespont made a fucking bridge from 600+ ships that connected Europe and Asia(minor)
>add a faction that is very blatantly a hybrid of two factions from the previous game>then add one of its constituent parts as a separate faction but without reworking the hybrid oneI still can not and probably will not get over this retardation. I wouldn't expect something like this from canadian devs. how can turks be even worse
>>2278747I think Sturgians might actually be unsavable because of how much you would have to rework them both geographically, linguistically and aesthetically to differentiate themselves from the Nords. Personally I would shift them fully Eastwards and wedge them between the Nords, Khuzaits and Northern Empire. Make every name and units utterly Slavic, rebuild their designs and castles as well. Have their natural enemy be the Khuzaits to their South and Nord raids to their North, right now they are way to stretched across the map which really fucks with their identity in comparison to everyone else who ha perfectly encapsulated homelands.
>>2278759You don't need to do any of that. At most you could add a few more empire influences and maybe steppe shit and that's it. People screech and moan not realizing that there was overlap of equipment in historical cultures to begin with.
>>2278747>>2278759I used to complain a lot about the Absolute State of the Sturgians, but I actually think they're 'okayish' now. It's just not polished yet in vanilla by TW.But they have everything they need:>Eastern-style armours & weapons, but TW just hasn't bothered to distribute them properly. The noble line looks absolutely atrocious.>Shared clan name suffix with the Nords ("-ing") which is a bit heavy-handed and wouldn't have been universal in Kievan Rus as it is for the Sturgians and Nords, but it's a nod to that and it works.>Notable names are largely slavic now, but there's still some cringeworthy stuff like "Ragnar" and "Mimir.">Faction colour is a darker shade of the Warband faction colour for the Nords. This can easily be reworked into bone white like for the Vaegirs in Warband, while the Nords can either stay as is - or be given the old Sturgian faction colour.They're an eye sore to be sure, but they can easily be fixed by modders or by TW if they understood what players want and had a good eye for aesthetics (they don't).
after 2000 hours in BL i actually dont know how leveling works. if i want more focus points, should i try to do some activities i usually dont do, so i can put more focus points into the skills that i want to increase the cap for?
Hot butter or captivity events?
>>2278782Captivity evens uses random porn art, is text heavy. Although, sometimes it uses Hot Butter mechanics too.Hot Butter is simpler, less content, also animations are not as complex even compared to Dickplomacy, but it it's ok, like a bonus to impregnate your wife or whatever and have morale boost and healing and sex in exchange for some money. Captivity events if you want to fap and then disable the mod.Hot Butter as a lewd addon.
>today I will play anything BUT empire>end up picking Empire anywaythe world will be restored once more
>>2278128>crossbowbased
>EoE1100 crashes every 10 minutes>ToR is unplayable>the secret Shokuho build is unplayable as well>vanilla is unplayable unless you have 100 modspainsuffering evenagony if you will
>>2278802Come back in 5 years or so, when updates and patches are over, they fucked off and then just install whatever mods are left standing.
>>2278223>>2278225I see. To clarify: I would not do a full video, it would all be done through update posts and screenshots so.
>fast mode is fake and gay>want a regen wife so need to slog through 20 years as an incel
>>2278307I have more than minimum for all my 4 ships. Maybe because I have 3 heavies?
>>2278864You start out with 3 ships limit and need perks to upgrade it to 6. I think you can get more from other random bullshit like Kingdom policies or whatever.
>>2278791I rarely play Empire but the fact they take half the map means my parties are always 95% empire troops.
>started with nothing>now got a castle and a big city>now an archon of the southern empire>southern getting invaded by northern empire, aserai and khuzait>spend most of the time joining other armies, sieging castles and cities>when I have enough prisoners I turn them in and raise my own army>siege other castles and citiesso now I've been doing this for a couple days IRL, what should I do now? I bought a caravan, a brewery and a wood workshop in two citiesI just recently started playing and dont know whats the next natural steps
i love ship battles but we need to be able to command our other ships to cut their lines from boats. i wonder if TW was simply unable to code it or if allied ships interacted with it poorly and cut the lines while troops were on them or something. it seems like being able to give a command to cut loose would mitigate AI misuse
in my fast mode campaign, Rhaggy died and another member of her clan was voted king.then the voted clan member died and another clan member of Rhaggy's was also voted king.idk if i'm the richest noble in the kingdom with 1 million denars
>>2278892Wait what? I didn't know that. Where can I see my limit?
>>2278323capture enemy nobles before sieging. their clan members will take their place after they get captured and field a party.some say they draw from the garrisons of their fiefs but they also can recruit from their kingdom villages.they are not spawning out of nowhere. you are sieging without bloodying them first.
>>2278359yes me. idk about the chad part but i definitely always simp for Rhaggy.>>2278362>spoilerbased. me too.
>>2278363>rhagaea loraa what?
>>2278964Bannerlord kinda falls apart late game, it's just befriending and recruiting clans over to your kingdom and making small gains in tedious wars. There's a reason almost no one bothers fully conquering the map vanilla
>>2278771if you want to squeeze everything, sure.
>>2278782primae noctis if it ever gets updated
>>2279029anon is talking about reference models for AIslop>>2279043damn, I'm suffering from my own success thenI installed the RTS mod to give more variety to encounters now that I have big ass armies, so i find some solace in thatbut yes its becoming a little boring, I think I'll buy several boats and fuck off to vlandia for a while
>>2278782Isn't captivity events for female characters only?
>>2278964you should be running with your own clan only army 24/7.clan members only army requires 0 influence to call or boost its cohesion and you can somewhat choose every single unit in it.clan parties are retarded and would recruit even if they are at capacity and would donate to kingdom garrisons automatically when you visit so don't give them your top tier troops.idk if party AI control mod is updated yet but get it if it is. it can disable donation and you can finely customize which units they recruit.
Who the hell attends the king's feast wearing that
>>2279052Nah, there's a bunch that are for male perspective
>>2279069Richest man in all of Poland
>>2278713the War sails map is a lot less detailed to make up for the performance impact of making it so much larger, you can totally see how fewer troops and texture tiles there are
>>2279093Shame...
>>2279093God I hate consoles so much
What the fucking fuck.... why do they change shit every 2 days and create new gamebreaking bugs.....now when i choose to leave a kingdom with my fiefs, i autodeclare war on every merc and kingdom in my vicinity stupid jews and their €€€€€€€€ fuck their dlc / update shit i want my cd´s back and not rent a licence for a game.... FUCK THIS JEWISH SHIT EVERYWHERE IN MY LITTLER CORNERS
Nice fucked texture there TW
>decide to try to get back into bonerlord>unload all mods just to be safe>start game, ad for the DLC>game runs like shit, long loading times>deserters absolutely everywhere>deserter party with imperial cataphracts literally 2 feet away from me>crash randomly every 30 minutesWhat the fuck is wrong with this game
>>2279222>when i choose to leave a kingdom with my fiefs, i autodeclare war on every merc and kingdom in my vicinityThat's what you get for breaking the NAP
>>2279222They have all major versions available under "betas" on steam if you don't want to play the latest one
So when are they making the pirate game?
>>2279342You came to the right place, I know a guy who knows a guy who knows Erdogan who can get in touch with Armagan.I'm not telling you though.
>>2279437I don't want to talk to the roaches I want them to make games for me.
what ever happened to that shit they were hyping up where the battle map is based entirely on the location you are fighting on the campaign mapFucking Rome Total War got this system down perfectly over 20 years ago
>>2279222bro, your GoG installers?
>>2279279>>game runs like shitdlc seems to need extra horsepower.>>deserters absolutely everywhere>>deserter party with imperial cataphracts literally 2 feet away from methat's a good thing.they spawn close whenever a lord is defeated. you are in a war zone.deserters are a challenge in-between bandits and lords.
>>2279469idk if they finished the whole map.maybe war sails set them back since they changed the map l.
>>2279491>they spawn close whenever a lord is defeated.>you are in a war zoneI literally started the game and I had 3 deserter parties before I even unpaused the game for the first time.
>>2279498huhone patch note mentooned increasing bandit spawns for new games sp maybe they included deserters.anyway, didn't warband simulate 3 months or so before giving the reins to the player?
>>2279514deserters gone wild
>>2279554>people want more warband features>TürkiyeWorlds brings back marauding deserter hordes>NOOO, NOT LIKE THISfunny guys
>>2279598name 15 times
>>2279655>15The number just keeps climbing
>>2279655okay?
When are they going to fix the fucking faces?
it's a lot harder to roleplay my southern imperial aserai hybrid now that there's only one land route to aserai lands
There needs to be a proper formation for pike n shot
>>2279716pike and shot was clusterfuck of ideas when you think about it>greek phalanx >mix in ranged units>"general what the fuck do we do with cavalry sir?">'what the fuck do I know, just make them fire pistol once or twice and comeback'
>>2279554>>2279491>>2279279I love deserters because they're absolute loot pinatas and immediately give you expensive shit to play with early game if you're ballsy and skilled enough to take on them.HOWEVER,i wish there were even more things in between bandit and enemy army on the ladder of enemies to fight against. Deserters are kinda just shittier armies in the end, army composition wise. I'd like rogue merc companies doing extortion rackets and muscling caravans that employ rarer units you don't normally see in armies. Maybe religious fanatics that just go around ALLAHU ACKBARing anyone who's of foreign culture even if they're at peace and allied with their realm(would be perfect for Battania), and then maybe corrupt patrols trying to collect extra taxes and steal shit from you.
Rhagaea's really helping out this siege battle
>>2279786>post mortem possesions mod allows you control companions and units after you are down>RTS camera mod too, I think>TW adds this features>only allows units, not companionsMake sense of their arbitrary bullshit.
>>2279860the only reason i can think of is that the player could instantly get knocked down then possess one of their companions and instantly level them up so hard they'd be broken for the rest of the game
>>2279872And who cares, it's a sandbox game.
>>2279872What prevents you from leveling up your own character to be broken for the rest of the game? You're saying it as if companion leveling works differently from player's
>>2279860Taleworlds doesn't play mods.They were in contact with the youtubers who had Early Access to the DLC(via a discord server). The post mortem possession, Nord buffs, Fian Champion and Khan Guard nerfs came from feedback by the youtubers.It just wasn't communicated that the Companions should also be playable, so it didn't get added.
>>2280124nta but I don't hate it. With right companions, gear and formation/captain choices you could easily treat this as essentially respawns, still having almost full control of the battlefield with a really powerful character. Dying should still put you at a disadvantage, getting to play generic guys just gives you something to do and maybe get some XP to upgrade a trooper but you aren't stopping the AI from just doing whatever it always does when your character dies.My only real complaint is that there should be a button to jump to an eligible unit or at least by default spectate one because it's quite ass to click through half of enemy army trying to find a guy you can take control of.
>Besiege a town >1700 vs their 1000>32 of their surviving soldiers retreat to the keep>I'm injured so I'm forced to auto it>1000 of mine left but only allowed to send in 19>they lose>the other 981 soldiers surrender, me and the 20 lords I mustered are all imprisoned>reload>have to assault the keep or completely abandon the siege altogetherThis is making late game completely unplayable besides being completely retarded. I dont remember it being like this at all.
>>2280156And taking control of Fian Champion or Khan's Guard isn't somehow overpowered?
>>2280166I've seen a lot of complaints about this so hopefully they'll unfuck that shit soon
>>2280166I think failing to get the keep and having men wounded in the process should cause an hostage situation where you have to negociate with the defenders. It's a time consuming process during which enemies can potentially show up to bail the defenders out.Each successful negotiation causes them to release prisoners, each failed negotiation causes the delay between negociations to get larger. When there's no more prisoners, the defenders give up. Or you can just attempt to get the keep again, at the cost of the prisoners lives.
>>2280173You don't get to issue orders as them and both are arguably more effective as AI - they don't miss, players do. It'd be high level melee troops and heavy cavalry that would have the most impact since they tend to lack a self-preservation instinct.
I hope you didn't dilly-dally and wait literal YEARS before rescuing your imouto from the RAPE VIKINGS /mbg/
>>2280204I'd rather deliberately fail the quest than hear about >POORRRRRRIIGGGGagain
aww shit it's LANDSHIP BATTLE time
>>2280242That'd be a fun overhaul. Landships across a large sandy desert.
>>2280242fuckit's Rome II all over again, fuck off Creative Assembly you can't torture me anymore
>>2280194>>2280166>>2280174They should add a stealth mission to assassinate the commander in the keep as an option to skip the costly keep storm
>>2280254hey.hey anon.they unveiled M:TW3
>>2280314Yawn. Still waiting for hyenas to come out
>>2280314It's in early pre-production. So 4+ years till we see gameplay.
>>2278304
>>2278562I thought I hate the>Gloves Of Slightly Less Faggotrycomic, but I don't.
>bonus stealth damage doesn't work on bowsLame. Why even let me bring a bow then?
>manage to FINALLY do the impossible, and sneak into a bandit hideout>~250 denars worth of lootSeriously what the fuck was taleworlds smoking when they made this decision?
>reload save>send in troops>get much better lootAre hideouts just bugged or something?WHY EVEN SNEAK INTO THEM IF IT GIVES WORSE LOOTYES I'M MAD
>>2280480you can bring bows? i can only bring sling and stones, not even javs or throwing axes.
>>2280507>WHY EVEN SNEAK INTO THEM IF IT GIVES WORSE LOOTHaven't you noticed how much fucking one-handed, athletics and roguery exp you gain by doing them? It's a lot if you stab everyone on the way.
>>2280533The only bow I've found that I'm able to bring is the recurve bow.>>2280535I guess that's true but I'm not sure if it's worth the trade off.
>>2280535>>2280507it's even better if you have a mod like you keep what you kill because the loot you get is directly tied to who you kill personally
>>2280540I actually have that mod but didn't enable it because it seemed like it might be too cheat-y.Now I'm tempted to turn it on. I see in the description it has a slider setting so I don't have to have it at 100%.I think 33% would be alright.
While I'm venting.>Tournament>4v4>my team contributes nothing and aren't able to take out a single enemy combatantWow it's like I'm really playing a multiplayer game!>Next round>here's a horse>here's a couchable lance>arena is too small>horse too shitty>aren't able to reach couch speed before the enemy is in your faceMaybe when I've got better stats, this won't be an issue. But still...>Win arena>get a cool mace with pretty good stats>my character holds it like a retard and looses possible reachWell it' still better than the weapon I looted from a pirate in the tutorial.
>>2280545>my character holds it like a retard and looses possible reachThis is an issue with a lot of weapons, lances have the worst of it.
>>2280504>>2280507TW puts a lot of time and effort into early/mid game mechanics because they are not gamers and do not understand that the game is fundamentally broken because all you need to do is to defeat one single Deserter party and you're catapulted into lategame gear and wealth anyways.Loot should be at least 95% scarcer than it currently is. Equipment loot is just way too good.
if im a mercenary for the nords, and i purchase workshops in all their cities, i then leave them as a mercenary and join the batannians and enter into a war against the nords, will my workshops remain functional or will they get deleted?
>>2280690Deleted
>>2280480Bring back regular hideout assaults!
Do any daggers in the game even HAVE the backstab wielding mode besides the Seax?
>>2280763They all do, even forged ones, look for the 'backstab' toggle like you have for thrown or dual onehand/twohand bastard swords
>>2280772I am. I don't see any with it. Only the seax so far.Granted the only daggers I seem to be able to find are jambiya, or something like that.
>>2280242There's a couple spots where the navmesh and land mesh are wrong. Another example of TW quality.
>>2280763The pirate dagger works for me
>>2280699what a fucking gay mechanic
pathetic... they just ran away
>playing femMC>favorite companion is called 'The Bull'getting strong AGP vibes from above
what happens if my fleet is docked in a town that belongs to a faction my faction goes to war against?
>>2280793but would you pay 30,000 denars to equip your custom troops with a menavlion?
>>2280794No unit tactic means boat fights are either ranged massacres or melee moshpits. Two handed axes/Wood Chopper/Axe of the North for shield smashing and javelins is probably the best boat setup. Other ranged weapons are wasted since you'll be at the helm until you're close up.>>2280794Nothing. You can just summon your fleet to another settlement.
>>2280789Why is your banner a stickman woman. Are you the guy with only female army?
>>2280808off brand Carthage flag
>>2280814this guy gets it
>>2280814Heresy for mentioning that nation
>won three tournaments so far>always give some okay-ish weapon>compete in fourth>this time ti gives mea helmet worth 50k+Damn. I'm only sitting at 40k denars as it is.What should I do with it?It has 53 head armor, so I could keep it. My current helmet only has 17.If I sell it what would be a good investment? A caravan? A ship? A workshop?
>>2280820Keep it, you know how expensive that shit is to buy?
Can you make camp like you could in Warband?>>2280826Alright then I'll wear it and show it off with swagger.
the games gives waaaaay too much battle loot, it should be like 90% less. is there a good mod out there that lets me adjust battle loot?
>>2280865it's not about the amount of the loot, it's the fact that the loot is worth so much2000 dinars for an unbalanced low tier throwing axe it crazy
>economy issueswait till you learn about smithing
>>2280865Selling equipment should have the same diminishing returns as everything else so you cant just dump 100 pieces of armor and weapons in one shop. And reduce the amount of gold they have too.
>>2280884I still miss the Pugio to javelin money printer>>2280775Try to Pugios in empire lands. Daggers cant use backstab mode outside of stealth though, i think.
>>2280895For that to happen they'd need to actually create a funtioning economy, not something that just runs in the background for city numbers to do things.
>>2280995A functioning economy would immediately collapse if a murderhobbo player character started mass-murdering bandits and soloing armies to flip battle loot all over the continent. A functioning economy would also not be able to sustain hundreds of armies fucking around for years and years with soldiers never going home and contributing to the economy or doing anything productive.The fact that supply and demand actually changes at all is a pretty big achievement as is. There just needs to be more sources of income and more expenditures so the whole system doesnt consist entirely from a handful of trade items and insanely overpriced armor.
https://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/4944Can finally make some custom banners.
>the 30 men in your party you just promoted can each afford 350k worth of armor and weapons>you have to use hand me downs from the deads for most of the game
>>2281070Thats the real economy problem. Upgrading units should be less of an instant peasant to knight button, not that cheap and not that quick. Going from Tier 1 to 3 should be relatively cheap and fast, tier 3 to 4 and 4 to 5 and 6 should increase exponentially. This would also mean much better army compositions for lords since there would be a bottleneck, less recruit and elite heavy armies.Also maybe new equipment should be distributed gradually on recently upgraded troops to simulate them saving up their wages and acquiring new armor and weapons over time. Of course you should be able to pay to make it faster.
>>2281069Bro... your Banner Party?
Let's quote Warband but wrong>You better not be a man rapist!
Less talking, more raping!
My Loin!
is there a story behind skeleton sitting in the castle in Warband ?
>>2281081There was a warband mod which had unit upgrades done only in cities and you had to pay exactly as many denars as the new equipment cost - the old equipment cost. Unfortuantely it didn't work out there because lords and other AI parties were not subjected to the same restrictions
>>2281123It's Calradia, he probably had a bone to pick.
What's the longest your faction has been at peace in butterlord? In my game it's like a week at most until somebody declares war. Half the time it's Vlandia who can't even fucking reach me but by the time I sail there to raid their villages we sign peace
>>2281081The problem is that one side getting defeated in battle results in the defeated side being completely wiped out, and any potential prisoners are deleted and from the game.That fundamentally makes it impossible to create a more in depth system.Troops being wounded instead of dying should be the norm, RBM-style extending of battles should be baseline, and morale loss should be rebalanced to kick in much earlier - especially as the infantry on one side is gaining the upper hand against the infantry on the other, leading to routs. Once routed, some damage is inflicted on the routing army.I don't know man, there's so many different and more interesting ways this can be handled in.
Warning: Imperial Nauteu or whatever (tier 2 imperial naval troops) are ridiculously overpowered and they will fuck your shit up, on sea and land.
>>2281244Naute is tier 5 marines
this game is just fundamentally broken and not well done.there's an army of 500 khuzaits besieging a nord castle with a garrison of 150 nords.i have an army of 200 nords, and around me are various nord lords, with anything between 70 and 150 nords.in total, the armies OUTSIDE the garrison of the castle outnumbers the khuzait army 2 to 1.so, of course, i go in to attack the besieging army.unfortunately, for some reason, the other lords standing by DO NOT ENGAGE, and so when I discover that I am going in alone against the khuzaits - outnumbered - i am UNABLE to FLEE, i can only enter into a field battle or send in the troops.what the fuck is this? seriously?
>>2281123Ayys
>>2281240Yeah, about a week, then within 2 days my lords demand war with 3 different factions.
>>2281290It also works the other way around, very easy to pick off lords when there's a friendly army nearby, because they'll chase after it but refuse to engage and back off, so enemy lords will single themselves out from doing constant back and forth.
>dramalord>fucking both the queen, her daughter, and this other girl to no one's knowledge>decide to settle for oneThis is not gonna go well.
>>2281313Curse Vishnu
>>2281342>>2281290jej that's a warband issue, they seriously haven't fixed it after all this time?
>>2281377They "fixed" it by having armies that aren't just a bunch of separate lords running aroundIndividual lord parties are just as clueless as they were in Warband
>>2280204we only do sandbox here
>>2280314>ck3 was ruined>bannerlord was ruined>dd2 was ruinedwhy wouldn't this one be ruined as well?
>>2281351>it's fucking nothing
>>2280827no>>2280820i usually sell good loot in the early game and just stack gold until i can get enough troops in one go to start the mercenary phase.awards in tournaments are tied to how many lords are participating in the tournament.
okay i've played bannerlord nonstop for 72h, im burned out, time to take a break, see you guys soon
>>2281290it's a (you) issue.when parties are ready to defend, hovering over them says something along the lines of>waiting for ally parties to defend [settlement name]when that is not their "state" they don't join mostly.>>2281377in warband, it was part of the herding cats design choice.low unity kingdoms face this behaviour or lords even start running away when close to the enemy army while high unity kingdoms stood their ground in the face of enemy armies and joined as one.
>>2281394her lust for your cock is too strong to get angry at you.
for all of you guys waiting for a "My little Warlord" update,the "Retinue" mod is doing a great job in the meanwhile
I married Ira btw
has anyone figured out how to get ships to cut ropes after boarding? i know that i can order my own ship to cut ropes, but i can't seem to get the other ships to cut ropes
>>2281394Oyakodon?
>yesterday could play Bannerlord>game was running "fine">enter a combat with mountain bandits>crash "d3d_device, createbuffer" error>can't play anymore>today try again>literally ANY fight will cause the same crash>no mods, safe mode, anything>stll the same problemI didn't have this problem the last time I played Bannerlord, what the fuck did TW do?
>>2281961some crashes can fuck drivers. reinstall them and delete the bannerlord files in the your documents folder. do NOT delete the save files.verify integrity of game files.
Would it be cool or annoying to have a mod that adds regional troop types? Like instead of getting "Aserai recruits" everywhere in Aserai territory some areas would give you [NOT-EGYPTIAN], [NOT-TURKISH], or [NOT-LEVANTINE] recruits, and they can promote either to the vanilla Aserai troop tree or a specialized regional line that either fills a role the main troop tree doesn't have or gives you better T2-3 units at the cost of not being able to upgrade them any higher than that. It would take time to design and might be annoying to learn, but I feel like it would make the different factions feel a lot less samey, especially the Empire.
>>2282003very nice but only if used with yet another troop tree mod that redesigns vanilla troops to make them more like warband.only 2-3 upgrade lines.
>>2282003How about you take that mod, but switch it around so that all locations have local troops and all factions have faction troops any of those local troops can promote into.That said, I know recruitment can be overridden, but I'm not sure if promotions can.
>>2282008>>2282025Just made this real fast but it would probably look something like this, if not necessarily these particular unit types. The Turks would give light cavalry, Syrians and Egyptians give shieldwall infantry and low tier archers. I haven't played Aserai in a while and they're pretty versatile already so I dunno how much they would even benefit from this.
>>2282065Oops.
>>2282072From a tradeoff perspective might be better if the regional troops capped off at tier 4, or if the upgrade took them straight from tier 2 -> 4 in quality (representing that it's easier to train and equip them under their cultural military practices), and making those tier 4s slightly better than the mainline tier 4, but of course worse than the mainline tier 5
>>2282085That's an interesting idea but I'm worried if I go up to T4 it'll get scope creeped into becoming a bunch of complete non-elite troop trees. T3.5 seems like a more reasonable cap for what are meant to be regional levies from subject peoples but I'd probably have to play test it.
here's what my troop trees look like
>>2282266Troop poles you mean
>>2282266You need a skirmisher
I find I'm only interested in these unit types:>Crossbows>Shield + Javelin>Horse archersEverything else is just not interesting to me.
I can't wait for a Darshi expansion
>>2282297I've recently fallen in love with mounted skirmishers. >Heavy infantry about to meet your lackluster infantry Mounted skirmishers>Heavy cav about to hit your archersMounted skirmishers>horse archers strafing your linesMounted skirmishers>Mounted skirmishersMounted skirmishers.
Dude, is there a worse fucking feeling that stabbing someone during an infiltration mission and them not dying, turning around, and instantly clapping your cheeks because you've got a shitty dagger and almost no armor equipped?
>>2282311Just not interested in them though. What I like about horse archers is the exact opposite of how the game uses them: I like them as these highly mobile raised platform artillery I can move into place and let 'em rip
>4 wars at oncethat's it I'm turning friendly damage to 50%
>>2282314I'm gonna be real with you chief, I don't really like the new stealth stuffgood for people who wanted it, but it's not my cup of teasneaking in a hidden camp? yeah no, just send in 100 men
>>2282360It's another one of those things like smithing where yeah it's a cool feature I guess but some random noble learning advanced metalworking so he can crank out 100 iron daggers to sell in whiterun is just too stupid and takes you out of the experience.
>>2282354It's okay to lose some wars, anon. If you just win all the time the game isn't very fun.>>2282395>I gamified the game and now it feels like a gameEmbrace M&B as a roleplaying platform.
>>2282418>game is game nice "so dragons are ok but a 2009 Honda Civic is too crazy huh" tier argument, get better material
>>2282456>REEEE argumentKill yourself.
>>2282354tw should've kept the casus belli system from warband
>>2282467NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER
I've been trying out pikemen in custom and they're so bad. They can kill a bunch of high tier cavalry, but there is a lot of caveats.>Pikemen not in the first or second row do not brace.>This also applies to square. Units facing backwards or sideways do not brace. (You wouldn't want to use square anyway. See next point)>If you slow down the cavalry, your pikes die. If you use tight formations, stick them behind other units, or fight uphill, the cavalry crowd the pikes and kill them in hand to hand.>Pikes can turn around and brace, but they do it at the last second and it's usually too late.>Face enemy command causes the division to rotate. They will do this as the enemy charges through causing deaths. Will not brace while trying to reposition.There's a use case in protecting your ranged units from cavalry flanks, but the AI doesn't go out of their way to achieve this. Enemy cavalry charge your front line or isolated divisions.I think they'd be fine if they would reliably turn around and brace. Ideally every row would brace in loose/line/square formations. As is they require way too much micro to do their only job.
>>2282563it's because weapons can't hit shit unless you're currently right fucking now performing an attack (or bracing/couching)Polearms need to be able to be held out in front of you and passively hit fools that walk into them, and then attacking would just be a little jab for extra reach.
>>2282565That would be a huge change that TaleWorlds would never implement. I think that'd be great, but it won't happen.Buffing their armour and adjusting the bracing mechanic could feasibly be added. Or just give them a shield. They already default to their sword when no cavalry are nearby.
>>2282563Pikemen are king in RBM with unlockable thrusts and spearmen a close second, but that's like 5 versions back when they both work along with all the other engoodenjgn mods. From warsails it looks like they just fully set polearm priority to 0 and made cavalry even even weaker to keep them from just running everyone over
>>2282563>There's a use case in protecting your ranged units from cavalry flanksThere isn't. Archers in loose formation are better at anti-cav than pikes are.
>>2282025promotions can be changed very easily, having cultural recruits would the harder bit, although it would mostly be time consuming
>can't join rhagaea's vaegir guard unplayable
>>2282608you have to level up your foot massage skill first noob
>>2282608>ignoring the 21 year old tomboy princess for the 40+ year old single mother girlboss
>>2282647Everyone knows the mother is hotter
Are ballistas on defence just broken now or was there some change to ammo i missed?
>>2282647>tomboyjust admit you're homosexual
>>2282647>he doesn't knowafter you kill 100 sand people you get assigned to ira's guard
>>2282660very swarthy take
>>2282647>simping for barely civilized Southern sand people
>go from RBM field army to warsails >HBO's vikangz faction >Boat build because boat game >Spawn in vlandia >Geographically 9 days ride through snow to closest nord lands >Ships 18-80k,>Boat quests all in vlandia, geographically the furthest land route to Viking land, a full switchback from the kuzaits to back above vlandia. >Stay in vlandia because game design >Fuck around grinding alpha build sea raiders for 10 hours >Finally kitted and skilled enough for my free quest boat right turkey our greatest ally? >It's a quest about using other people's shit tutorial boats and other people's shit tutorial units (while still paying for your units) >Fight the premonitious flashbacks to the opening unskippable 20 minutes of with fire and sword >Do 11 of them back to back >Still no boat, quest end nowhere in sight to find boat Shaun on AC odyssey Island and hopefully get free boat >Do 10 day winter ride to nords over land >Become mercenary with first lord I see >Slightly cash positive for first time in 2 IRL days of play not having a cavalry/mounted infantry doomstack because horses are yacht money (but time is troop money)>Just 80k+20k buffer to go before boat capable of fighting 60stack AI boats by pressing R next to them >Save quit for another day I'm not sure I'm feeling it Mr. Crabs. Stealth was nice, hideouts now giving food only as loot is rage inducing.
for me it's tomboy domestication
>>2282702
>>2282701It's 13k for a fishing boat. It's not that much. You can easily conquer your way up from a single fishing boat and 20 nord recruits to a fleet of heavy ships. If you've got more than 20, just fire everyone.>Get 20 recruits and a fishing boat>attack fishing boats>take every ship you can, sail back to a port and sell for a few thousand per ship>Get more troops + repair>Once you can afford to field 3 fishing boats, start attacking sea raiders to capture a medium ship>Become merc and fight sea raiders and corsairsShips are expensive, but very lucrative.
>>2281400>awards in tournaments are tied to how many lords are participating in the tournament.That makes sense then because there were only 2 troops in the tournament. Everyone else was named.
>>2282665the best tomboys are swarthy
so whats a good mod to rebalance loot so i get less of it from defeated parties? i dont want tier 6 gear within the first 30 minutes of gameplay. less of it and much lower chance at high tier loot.
>>2282580>>2282565It's pretty fucking insane we have spear BRACING and lance COUCHING but not combining the both for pike formations moving forward with spears extended like a proper phalanx, it can't be too hard to mod, surely.You know what's something they could do that would make combat a lot less bullshit? give horses a small modicum of actual AI of their own so that they, unless they're very high end war horses with high riding requirements, will disobey you if you drive them directly into a fucking pike wall. Horses don't do that unless they're bred and raised for war. Same with horses riding directly against trees and crashing like they're just cars that shit. Horses should steer to avoid obstacles right in front of them, try to turn around and even throw you off if you try to ride them off a ledge or into certain death.Also war horses should just be murderous as fuck. They should be kicking and stomping and biting if you piss them off enough.
Is there a limit to how many possible companions will spawn?I'd like to try a all-companion army.I guess I'd need a mod to increase companion limit too.
If I put ashore is it safe to leave my fleet behind alone?
>>2282770They dont even have feasts they aint adding alladat
>>2282786Yes, nobody will fuck with it.
>>2282792Every single pirate-related media I've been exposed to has proven otherwise.
>>2282509it's not even that.you can't influence the vote whatsoever with your shitty 150 influence. if they at the very least made it a slider so you can dump your influence all at once it would have been palatable.
>>2282770>Horses don't do that unless they're bred and raised for war. Same with horses riding directly against trees and crashing like they're just cars that shiti thought we've been over this years ago.
>>2282812i see only two purebreed warhorses there
>>2282812They're not wearing blinders, are they?
>>2282814>blinders>in my thirdie shitholeno horse i've ever seen in my country ever had blinders.
>>2282701I don't know man. The ease of getting into naval is a big thing for the DLC, you're just doing all the wrong things.
Kiev
>>2282813lmao
Kyivyan Ryyyyyys
>>2282824>>2282823Kiev
>>2282825Kivyvyv!
>>2282830Kiev
>>2282831Tyal
>Burn the ships, no one goes home till we finish this.
>>2282839How get home with no botes? Retard.
>>2282852We live here now
>>2282839VERY good idea
It's Kiev, not "Kyiv."
>>2282889actually chud we decided last thursday it's not so you're a nazi for spelling it that way
>>2282893Every single media organization in every single EU and NATO country suddenly deciding out of nowhere to say and spell it "Kyiv" instead of "Kiev" within the span of two hours should confirm every single conspiracy theory on the planet.Anyways back to Bannerlord.Any1 know a good mod to reduce loot?
>>2282896>should confirm every single conspiracy theory on the planet.retard logic
it is Shithole*not Moscow
>>2282896>spelled wrong for ages>suddenly there's a reason to actually bother to correct it>conspiracy
>>2282820>The ease of getting into naval is a big thing for the DLCThe tutorial quest actively wastes time you could be spent on your actual first boat actually playing the naval combat. >>2282746The smallest natural spawn I've seen is 34 men on a boat that isn't villagers who are worth shit and get lords very pissed at you when you kill with the map average being 50. and for me they luckily had a longship. Isn't hard as a fight but is stupidly RNG for a haul of 3 boats out of it. They could fix the naval progression curve by selling boats in damaged condition to the player at the shitty harbors. Getting multiple ships fixed to full is barely an expense if you can afford 1 ship in the first place and It's better game design for a player to lose 30 men to the spare boat imploding from being 300/10000 health than to dismiss them in a menu for more movement speed.
So I got the game a week ago, and apparently there is a new update\dlc that broke every single fucking noteworthy mod.That pisses me off.How do I downgrade my installation and downgrade the mods needed to play stuff like TOW and Shokuho?
>>2282953>how to downgrade gammeGoG, pirate orpic related in Steam->Settings->Betas
>>2282960But will the mods work?
>>2282965anon, nobody here will know either put in the effort and try them out or ask in their respective discords
>>2282896
I hate how the symbol for polearms is an axe head as if to imply you can use poleaxes or halberds, but then ingame there's none and you can't smith one.
>>2282967God damn it, too much work for little gain.I'll just stick with vanilla for now.
>>2282896>Every single conspiracy ever is true because of a performative fad!Riiiiight.
So has anyone noticed that the new Runed Fullered Blade just has fucking sky high damage that actually dwarfs every other tier 5 blade? I feel like no one talks about it.
>>2282965if the mods you download are made for the soecific version you have, they will work.1.2.12 was the last "stable" version so i assume every mod has a working version for it.1.2.12 lasted for almost 2 years before 1.3 dropped.
>>2282979how new is this addition?i don't remember 2 handers having one so outstanding that it makes the rest obsolete but i've never really cared about smithing and just crafted the longest and strongest blade possible.
>>2282984It's from War Sails, it added the Runed line of sword parts. The one next to it, to the left, is the Runed Short Blade and is also the fastest blade while keeping very high damage (not nearly as much as the Fullered Long version, but still very worthy).The weird part too is that the one further to the left is the normal Runed Blade, and has the exact same stats as the Runed Short Blade but just with slightly less swing damage, even having the same length despite the name.Still though, it's rare for any sword blades to break the 100 swing damage mark before adding the rest of pieces with damage in mind, and this one reaches 152 before that and without even touching the size slider.
>>2282990>It's from War Sailsi didn't buy the dlc yet. i'm conflicted. the turks are feeding us shit but they seem to be still fixing the game but i can't be sure if they made those quick fixes to give us hope but keep feeding us shit.but i don't want to see them go under because i want to think they're not as shit as the other devs but idk how shit they in fact are because the other games i had interest in turned out to be shit. ck3 as an obvious example.judging the dlc by itself, i don't give a shit about boats or vikings. but idk if they would or should make political and economical overhaul dlc.i just want bannerlord to be good but idk what to do to reach this timeline.
>cities with no lords can and will build fire weapons, unless the player is in charge of defenseExtremely gayAny actual siege defense tips that aren't just "chuck fire pots"? It doesn't feel like the defenders have any advantage even if the attacker is forced to use ladders, the ladders just slow the action down but the outcome is similar to a normal field battle
>>2282965>>2282974The workshop page of whatever mod you want will have a game version number listed. just switch to that version of the game in the steam betas menu.
>>2283025>Any actual siege defense tips that aren't just "chuck fire pots"?Nope, thats it. It's the only viable siege defense if they have any decent numerical advantage.Focus fire on the Ram first. Then see if the siege towers will arrive next to a fire pot storage. If yes, let it hit the walls and toss fire pots. If no, destroy the tower and hope there are fire pots near the ladders
>>2283025there was an anon claiming to have won siege defenses through marvelous tactics™ by retreating into the streets and shit but it has never worked for me.i'm not a tactical genius so maybe this is why. idk.the tactic i came up with was using the ambush option and damaging the siege engines until they have very low health so they are immediately destroyed when the siege scene starts.you still need to chuck fire pots and have at least your own army full of top tiers to rout the enemy though.
Crossbow or Throwing? I'm bored of bows.
>stealth clearing bandit hideout with allegedly 4+ parties inside gives less influence than fighting bandits in an auto resolve field battle >clearing bandit hideout gives only random tradegood crap like food or a single walrus tusk >trade goods acquired 4free still do not give trade XP I don't remember these being completely shit, just not good to clear if it wasn't your land and you wanted to play the long game of blighting an area with bandit parties to farm. I'd swear they dropped gear from all the jareeds and star falchions I've picked up in the desert on past playthroughs.
>>2283104I think selling anything should provide trade XP, past the early game you rarely fucking do goods trading (at least once purpose) since selling gears and passive income is much easier.
>>2282839>T.
>>2283100Crossbow is like a punchier slower bow half the time for me, but imo you should go throwing. Throwing requires a bit more skill to use and it's pretty fun.
Another save bricked due to crashing every time when I go to do an important battle.
>>2283100Throwing. It's a bit more finicky, but there's something deeply cathartic to riding up to a line of soldiers at full gallop and ragdolling one exceptionally unlucky bastard with couched-lance-tier damage.
>in city under siege>city rebels>i just get kicked out of the city>now I am standing out in the front gates with the army that was sieging the citywhat is this bullshit? how can they rebel when I am in the city with a fucking army?
If I dont kill the ram before it reaches the gate I reload. Simple as that.
>>2283220You can still drop a few stones on it if your catapult is near the gate
>>2282898>>2282905>>2282969>>2282975y-yeah haha it was just a performative fad that hundreds of media organizations felt like doing at the exact same moment haha
how the fuck do I get my ships to do anything in naval battles besides just board the nearest ship and turn it into a giant mosh pitmy ranged ships dont skirmish using the skirmish commandmy ships kitted out for ramming dont ramEvery naval battle just ends up with all ships involved just boarding eachother and turning it into one large land battle.
>>2283249I don't think you understand the meaning of the word 'conspiracy'.
>>2283249>hundreds of media organizations felt like doing at the exact same momentDo you not understand what fads are?
>>2283266Nta but that word was created by the cia to make people sound crazy
Do land ballistas have limited ammo now?
>enjoying fast mode>see in the message log Lucon dies of old age>lmao git gud>wonder how old my character is>tfw realizing they're almost 40>tfw female character >tfw unmarried and no heirWell shit.
>get the charm perk to raise nearby notable's relation when clearing hideouts>it doesn't trigger when auto resolvingWhy the fuck do village hobos care if I sneak into the bandit camp before having my troops rip and tear?
>>2283295>too busy girlbossing>forgot to reproduce Many such cases.
>>2283305I think the whole idea behind sneaking vs clearing hideouts is that if you sneak in, you catch the bandits by surprise and get the whole gang in one go, whereas if you just send your troops in without first eliminating the sentries they'll scatter and go back to their wrongdoing later.
>>2283329Cool, but I want old attacks back, not annoying stealth. TW once again removing options.
>>2283190report it on the forum.i'm going to make a wild guess and say you were a mercenary.otherwise, this is a new turk fuck up.
>>2283268>>2283266>>2283249https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE
how is the weather in New Amsterdam?
>>2283368Your point?
>>2283389it is coordinated. it's not a bunch of independent media latching on to the newest thing. same as the safe and effective narrative. and the systematic suppression of people who had side effects.
>>2282662I romanced her the first time I met herthe second time I met her I proposed , then asked her mom for her hand in marriagethe third time I met her, I got her pregnant
>>2283260>anon also finds out why naval combat is locked behind having 15,000+15,000 denars to have enough guys with you to fight a whole naval battle >it's just bretenwalda again You can also go to half rowers and waddle around circle strafing on the guess you're close enough for archers and throwing spears to actually land. If you are the death ticker is the only ingame feedback you're doing it right. Or get an aimbot fire ballista. I put fire braziers on a support ship and filled it with archers but it sure hasn't lit anything on fire. Ramming also seems pointless even with the triremes, boats have enough health to facetank the naval ram perfect damage bonus and then they just throw grappling lines. With the skill tree being flat damage increases to your troops for naval combat it doesn't seem like taleworlds is even pretending there is more to really do than roll up and dock and kill everyone with your more guys.
>>2283266And I don't think you're gonna make it
So when starting a no deaths & births campaign, there's no reason to not start at 50 years old right because you just get extra attribute and focus points from the beginning?
>>2283249>No one bothers to update their infographs and notes about Eastern Europe since the USSR because nothing happened there since>Something happens there>People update their infographs and notes.There's so many reasons to hate Western governments, you don't have to make up new ones just because the real ones are tangible and scary.
>>2283564I sometimes turn my rape mods up to max rape and roleplay as an ugly bastard in such runs. I ended up with 50+ rape babies one time.
>>2283436This isn't the age of sail, boats still mostly sucked. Rolling up and docking and killing everyone on board was the way to do naval combat until cannons became widespread.
>>2283584Rams should be a lot more effective than they are. It's basically a waste of money to get them now.
>>2282662every aserai village depopulated is one base you can go further with ira>>2282580the combat system is built around swung weapons in the up to 2m range, every other kind of weapon has to be grafted on. Making spears, pikes etc viable (especially in the hands of AI) would either need an overhaul of the system to accomodate them better or just having a separate system for polearms like there is for ranged. Not that it's ever going to happen.
>>2281069>Bro doesn't know about the original banner editor.
>>2282812While these horses are not high end warhorses, I would bet a significant amount of money they are regularly beaten and infrequently fed.It's like the midwit meme, both buckbroken and elite horses will just charge into a brick wall while all the normie horses will shy away.
>>2281279>>2281244I've been observing nautes since this and did notice that they seem to have much better kill ratio than legionariesI guess armor doesn't matter that much but always having a sword and real javelins do
How can I make a formation for a specific troop type.The settings in the pre battle setup are just preference. I want a unit of nothing but Aserai Axemen, and the best I can do is filter it to be high tier troops. So it gets filled with shit like legionarres
>only natural naval engagement i've had without forcing it in 100 hours is just a retard yoloing a naval blockade
>>2283295>>tfw female characterkys
>>2283679War Sails does feel like it has way less parties around, both of Lords and specially Bandits.Maybe it's the bigger map? They need to increase the maximum amount of parties allowed, incluading fleets.
>>2283665
>>2283566yeah man i'm sure your larp "guys they suddenly just got a reason to update their maps lmao" explanation is the truth and not, you know, top-down orders?
>>2283572unfathomably based
>move crossbows to top of hill>winit's amazing how well this works
>>2283584>bireme and trireme combat is acktually supposed to be underwhelming it isn't >I see nothing wrong with vlandian coracles having radar guided artillery they shouldn't The Vlandians should have war galleys too actually, the french and everyone else operated them in the Mediterranean pretty much until the steam engine.
>>2283700I assume the x10 map speed mod doesn't work yet but goddamn does the game need it more than ever
i love how TW said there's better diplomacy now like weaker factions allying against stronger factions and then weaker factions + stronger factions gang up against weaker factions lmao>nimps, nords and khuzaits declared war within 1 minute of each other during ongoing war against vlandia
>>2283773Sturgia moment. Had the same shit happen multiple times post-patch as Sturgia, but as someone else only when we were decisively winning a war. I think something is fucked there, usually everyone declares peace pretty much at once some time after.
>>2283777It might be because TW weighs "Is neighbours with [faction]" more heavily than before in war declaration calculations, and Sturgia borders the most factions, resulting in being at war with more factions more commonly.
>>2283773I gave up on diplomacy when Vlandia sued for peace with Batannia to the point of PAYING tribute, with ONE castle left in Battanian hands against Vlandia and almost all Batannian land absorbedNUTS
>>2283782You mean the Diplomacy mod or diplomacy overall? Because I noticed even with the Diplomacy mod installed, there were times when we were overwhelmingly winning wars and from out of fucking nowhere apparently my faction is exhausted and we have to pay millions and lose 100k influence lmfao
>>2283773Vlandia keeps going to war with SImps in my game and they can't even reach each other
Should I use Dromons because they are bigger or Dromakions because they are faster
>>2283777>>2283782>>228380323 minutes later: The entire eastern half of Sturgai has now been split up between the Khuzaits and Nords, while the Nimps have raided the entire Western half of Sturgia.This is absolute dogshit holy fucking shit lmao.
>>2283794unmodded behavior in my example, haven't tried the mod yet
make pike n shot great again
>>2283808In my opinion - Ghurabs.Dromons are great for archers because of raised decks and theoretically best rammers, cleanest view for ballista too and you will get 80 guys on deck but they're pretty unwieldy. If I had to choose between only Dromons and Dromakions I'd just get a Dromon.Dromakions are half as heavy so not great for ramming (but ramming isn't great anyway) and gets a whopping one less guy on deck but it doesn't really do anything special, it's also very flat and very low so easy to get shot at while on it. Poor sea-worthiness too. Biggest downside is that you're still a pleb doing his own steering on it.Ghurabs are faster on world map, have great sea-worthiness. Theoretically slower in perfect wind in battle due to having only lanteen sails but honestly it's just simpler and in ass winds you still have two sails pushing you instead of just one on Dromons/Dromakions. There is a rather big and annoying log and rope in front of your ballista but you can shoot through it. You do get "only" 76 guys on deck but it doesn't really matter that much. They are an Aserai ship but you want to pop down to them for the Wavebreaker ram anyway.
been seeing weird behavior in battles. fighting khuzaits an they'll send their horse archers at me extremely slowly because for some reason they'll have like ten units of infantry in the regiment. fought a couple battles against aserai and for some reason they clumped up all their cav with the infantry. not using any mods. anyone see this happening too?
are camels the best for archers because of their height?
>>2283915i think there is a bug in pre battle deployment. i'm getting horsemen mixed with horse archers in division 4.
>spend a while powerlevelling a companion to be a the best engineer possible>he is merciful so he will leave me if I raid too many villagehow do i remove these gay ass traits that dont even fucking do anything besides this one situation where a compnaion will leave you over raiding.
>>2283909NTA but what about the vlandian Roundships?
>xhe raids villages
>>2283943You can promise that you won't raid for a relationship boost and then raid again after 3 days
>winning a war against aserai>nimps and khuzations declare war>1 army goes to nimps, second to khuzaits, no more free lords left>they still refuse peace with aseraiyikes
removing the land bridge removed the aserai from the world imo
>>2283985by the way, does Diplomacy mod help with this? It seems to be up-to-date right now. I have gigainfluence but can't even use more than 150 on the vote
>>2283989It also created an extremely confusing situation with Sturgia in the north.
>updating my troop mod for warsails>goal was to have few troop tree lines like in warband>I now have to add marineers to most troop trees when I was already considering putting the noble tree lines into the regular trees to have less branchesI already have some that fit for me in the sturgian and imperial trees, nord are all mariners but what do I do for the aserai and vlandians ?I've been considering :>having a dedicated line in some trees, and having few troops with the sailor perks for other treesI still have to figure out what do I do with vlandia and aserai in this case, since they don't have troops that would be logical as mariner/coast guard>having a separate troop tree (one line) that spawns in fishing villages through my castle recruit modI don't want my mods to have dependencies
fuck raiding, give me scorched earth tactics
>>2283990>I have gigainfluence but can't even use more than 150 on the voteyou need to drain lords' influence via repeated voting for peace until they don't have enough influence to vote against you anymore.diplomacy mod adds war exhaustion that forces peace with a massive payment when exhaustion reaches 100 so it's pretty sweet. idk how it was changed after 1.3 dropped.
>>2284016That's a neat trick, haven't thought of that
>>2284008>I don't want my mods to have dependenciesbased.do whatever you want, anon. we're rooting for you!
I cant get the "fire arrows" mod to work, in the sense thatthe mod works just fine, but apparently I have to craft arrows and shit at camp?there's a fucking camp in Bannerlord?
>Boot up bannerlord>Install Shokuho, comes with enlisted mod by default>Enlist in a lords army, fight enemy lord and pick up a firearm from dead ally>Firearm uses crossbow animation for reloading>After battle the lord I enlisted with get stuck on a mountainside and can't move>close bannerlord and boot up Warband Gekokujo insteadits been 6 years
>>2284111Just use RBM, it has fire arrows
>>2284111>>2284118There are fire arrows in base Bannerlord though. Might be War Sails exclusive but I've used them. Might need custom troops for massed fire arrows though.
>>2284112that particular feature doesn't work in The old Realms mod either >enlist in Bretonian lord's army >he wins 2 battles, fuck offs back to his city and never-ever moves from there, even after waiting for 2 weeks in game>leave army>lord moves again>try to enlist, same thing happens
>>2284118>>2284120I see, didn't know about that. I'm actually already using RMB, I don't think I've read anything about fire arrows but it's good to know.thanks guys!
Is rank 3 the most important?
>>2283958Looks like a castle, fights like a castle. Really good for stacking with archers and thanks to having two decks you can have archers stay safe even when there's fighting on deck but kinda shit for everything else. Suffers from only getting IIRC 66 guys on deck.And since we're halfway there, Qalguks are similar to Ghurabs but worse in every way and also share low deck capacity with Roundships and Dromakions. Have like half the HP of Dromons, only Drakkars and Lodyas have less in Heavy category.Drakkars have highest seaworthiness, fastest speed, are shallow draft and can get the most people on deck, which means they're great if you just want to melee fight it out every time but otherwise lose in a fight to anything with artillery.Lodyas are Drakkars that spent too much time in waters polluted with Imperial sewage and thus develop a ram and battlements upgrades but lose out on speed bonus, little bit of sea worthiness but most importantly a lot of deck capacity. It also has the greatest rowing power IIRC so it might be the greatest small ship ramming bully, except again, ramming kinda sucks. If they had artillery they'd be pretty cool but they're "eh".>tl;drThe big boy ship question is between Dromons and Ghurabs. Dromons have slightly better battle stats but Ghurabs have slightly better general usage stats. Realistically doesn't matter unless you were doing ship PvP (are there even ships in MP?).Roundships are crude but are good bases for spamming archers. Dromakions and Qalguks are budget versions of Dromons and Ghurabs respectively. Drakkars and Lodyas exist in their own northern ecosystem that has it's advantages but gets fucked the second whatever they're facing has a ballista.>Battanians
>>2284173Yes
>>2284008Nords can just have all or most troops be marinersfor the rest desu I'd just make a branch off some later tier infantry or archer that's a mariner
>>2284008>>having a separate troop tree (one line) that spawns in fishing villages through my castle recruit modThat's what I'd do. Any village or Town with connection to water can spawn the unique Mariner troops.All Nord toops are mariners regardless (or make their Mariner troops the strongest).Khuzait have no Mariner troops (or they are the worst in the game).
>>2284178Nice write up anon, thanks.
hey Taleworlds you should hire me, you can pay me in Halva and Shisha Pipes I will make your shittiest ideas look sensible don't believe me?how about this one, give Nords another mariner trooptree but make it melee cavalry(no lances that's for women or vlandians as I like to call them), think about it, what other madman would bring cavalry to naval battle
>>2284213you're right, that does make even the shittiest TW idea look sensible
I hate defending Qasira so goddamn much
>RBM makes firepots not effective against infantryso how the fuck are you supposed to win a defensive siege?
>>2284251Uhh... don't use RBM? Duh?
>>2284268This, why would anyone subject themselves to """R"""BM
>>2284284The R stands for Reddit, everyone knows this
>>2284284Reddit Butter Massacre.
>like how RBM punishes cavalry and constant blocking with it's posture system>don't like anything else about it>kind of like warbandlord's armor changes>don't like anything else about it>no mod that takes the best of both
battanians and aserai have cool drip
Tried playing Nords but I'm not a big fan of their aesthetic and playstyle. I'm starting a new campaign, should I play Aserai or Empire?
>>2284372Aserai for a dripped out merchant/tactician playthrough, Empire for anything else.
>>2284372Imperials have access to every single troopline, but none of their units are "the best". Just play them until you figure out what you like.Khuzait for horse archersBattanians for archers.Vlandian for cavalry/crossbows.Stergians for uhhhhhNords for infantry
>>2284389Sturgians for infantry, Nords for botes.
>>2284397Nord troops are one of the best right now. The berserkir is shit, but the others are all good.The skjaldbrestir is insanely strong.
I'm bored, anyone wanna hop on the Ludus or something
>>2284437i wish online had a practice arena mode where you can just virtually sit there watching other retards wail on eachother butt naked without really winning anything
>>2284518Ditto. I think they focused too much in "gamifiying" Bannerlord's muliplayer because they thought it made their new game much more impressive and professional, but completely missed out on the casual experience that alot of people liked from the original. Singleplayer has shadows of this too.They should just have a multiplayer mode to let people mess around with whatever equipment and stats they want with no score or time limit, but I guess this will be restricted to custom servers or something.
What is the use case for kicks and shield bashes?
>>2284534If you have fast enough attack speed, you can bash them and hit them through their block.It's useless without perks and levels/
>>2284534You can kick enemies off walls or overboard in ship battles.
I haven't played this game in too long, I think this is the first time I've seen the ludus not have at least one guyit's 6 in the morning but still
>>2284526>shadows of thisit's fucking steeped in it. I want to throttle whatever sandroach came up with (((clan tier))) and (((influence)))
What are some good trade routes?
>>2284389Imperial mariner units is really good on both land and sea>Vlandian for cavalryI don't think this debate will ever be settled, Vlandian cav has better maneuverability overall but worse defense than Imperial Cataprachts >Battanians for archerstheir Shock troop (the falxman) pardon for the pun "Fa(l)x", their foot skirmisher(wildling) is also okay>Sturgiathey always were in the weird spot, their noble cavalry doubles as a good foot unit, brigands on horse are decent skirmish unitinfantry is unremarkable, archers are okay nowdon't like their current shock troop>Aseraithey have decent roster it's just not many play themCavalry has decent armor overall and not bad statsshock troop has really nice weaponskirmishers have jareeds which are nice
>>2284534Kick into overhead swing is a quick way to deal with shields
>>2284661Just bring salt from the south up to the north, and bring furs/cattle back down south
irachads??
>>2284587This whole clan tier shit alone is part of what makes Bannerlord unbearable.
>first siege>enemy has 1200 attackers against our 200 defenders>oh shit>lose but gain a ton of EXP from using the catapults and refillable arrows>lose of courseYou know old me would pussy out and load an older save and runaway. But I'm sticking with this.I'm gonna miss my army of 50 guys. Half of them were tier 4+.
>>2284397Nords rape me in defensive sieges. Sturgians are meh
>start game>earn around 2k gold>go to town>recruit a steward>appoint him quatermaster for +35 party size>steamroll throught early and mid gameThis seems kinda busted ngl
What's the best anti-cav cavalry?
>>2284757The longer you play this game the more you realize how expendable your party actually is.
>>2284389>Stergians for uhhhhhTheir Heavy Spearmen have the best swag of all infantry in the game.
>>2284931khans guard
>>2284389>>2284397They just turned the Sturgians back into Vaegirs huh?
>>2284963Cavalry, not h*rs* arch*rs
>>2284931vlandia and imps depending on which build of the game and how badly taleworlds fucked up their balancing. Usually when the game isn't broken it's vlandians couching lances during cycle charging and having better weapons for killing other heavy cavalry. Both also hunt down and murder khans guard
wuxia bannerlord.
>>2284931Literally any cav that you put yourself as commander and have a pike wall banner for that +30%Just charge one of their wings with a cav/horsearcher doomstack F4 F1 F3 and fuck em up before their infantry stack or their other cavalry wing can catch up
>>2270866Shieldwall and archers behind it.Preferably two separate groups, so the enemy has no clue who attack.Once they are out of arrows (you'd be surprised how fast it goes if you put a proper shieldwall), they are fucking funkies with virtually no staying or hitting power>>2271784Pike and shot is terrible to deal with horse archers. Both historically and in-game.Line infantry and its square > any gun tactic prior to it. And it remained true all the way until bolt-action rifles entered equation (single-shot rifles lacked the sheer volume of fire, even if they were almost there already)>b-but muh larpNot my fault you like to larp as a retard. Pike and shot is literally just a tiny step toward proper gun tactics.
>>2285106>acktually but in a videogaym...in the real world shields don't stop 90 arrows by virtue of a 520 defense stat and horse archers wouldn't shoot all their arrows then die in melee. If you formed an infantry blob to fight the golden horde they'd just steal your baggage train and burn your country down around you. Fortresses and a heavy cavalry hammer to a skirmish cavalry anvil are how things went down fighting mongols in the 13th and 14th centuries. Which is why for a 20th back to the drawing board on Sturgia >they should have horse archers and lance cavalry as the normal tree >they should have the fastest noble heavy cavalry (only ones able to ride down the kurgits/saranids) they should actually do well against the east of the map instead of being dumpstered on all fronts while weather debuffs keep them from even being able to defend their own territory.
I'm having jolly time with the ships, i started as an humble Aserai pirate down south raiding merchant vessels with my fleet of cheap tubs. Eventually while searching for easy life i landed at the coast of Vlandia then making my way to the wealthy Empire while rightfully taking back some well earned Vlandian loot that my ancestors originally owned first. After joining the Empire and eventually gaining my own fief of Itäkeskus i'm currently living off of taxes while i myself liberate neighbouring white supremacists out of extra gold while dreaming of the day i can say "Look at me, im the Emperor now"
>>2284757>Nords have signed a trade agreement with Sturgia>Nords declare war on Sturgia
>>2285248>Suomi
>>2285248why do finns have such long heads?
>>2285254It's a perfectly valid trade agreement: You give me everything and in exchange I (probably) won't kill you (I will).
What do trade agreements even doLike, boost caravan numbers or something between factions?
>>2285106Pike and shot works great with crossbowmen. I haven't started the expansion yet as I NEED all of my rape and politicking mods, but I bet it'd work great with nord archers too.>hold fire until horse archers get in range>tank the first ~3 seconds with shields>loose a barrage of xbow bolts and watch green fill up the screen>repeat as they circle my squareGranted, I usually just have two groups instead of four like in my pic because this isn't total war and I don't want to micromanage that much.
>>2285278Nature's periscopes, invaluable in poverty piracy or peeking for any new benefits to hoard
>>2285293No ideaAlliances do seem to prevent wars, but they're kinda expensive and only last 100 days. Oh and you'll never actually call your ally to a war because it costs 1000000000 denars
>>2285001have them hold fire?
>>2285369>>2285369
>>2284112works on my machine™ with crashes
>>2284213you joke but you can post a bunch of fixes to their spaghetti code on the forum and get a job offer.
>>2284311>>like how RBM punishes cavalryvery unrealistic
>want to use RMB>game is constantly crashing during sieges and siege ambushes>the only two mods I have are troop editor and RBMThis is bullshit I am like 1500 days into this campaign and I dont want to abandon it over stupid bullshit like crashing every time I defend a castle
>>2268516That's funny, because I was asking that in order to see if I should even bother updating it. I haven't found BL fun in a long time and it sounds like war sails didn't change much...
>>2286036it's over.maybe in 5 more dlcs vanilla will be fun.1.3 has good additions but they're not enough.war sails adds ships and changes trading somewhat.nothing worth a new playthrough.and they have 1.3.10 beta right now so it's a terrible time to go back into modding.PNanon sama, nice to meet you!
It's March 18 1258. It's been several week since I entered the hopeless service of the Welsh. We've successfully tricked the king of the Scots into banishing his vassal and lord of Stirling. However, one particular welsh nigger that goes by the name of Dafydd ap Gruffydd keeps instigating wars with everyone. Currently we're sandwiched between Scotland and the powerhouse that is the Gaelic Kingdoms, which has several kings in it. The king of Welsh, and myself are what keeps them from taking the little bit of land we have. I fear that Wales won't survive another year. What makes matters worse, England is not busy with war, so if our friend Dafydd does something, then Wales is lost.
>>2286888>warbandit sucks and people only say it was good because its old
>>2287513kys faggot
holy fucking shit, I'm playing vanilla Bannerlord (Warsails)and I've just learned that once you have a few fiefs (as the king) you can't even vote yourself anymore, You just get 3 random other clans.So I can't give the clans I want the fiefs I want to give them, or take a fief so I can then raise a companion as a new clan.I genuinely lose more hope in this game every day
>>2291268and the game crashed, I'm donefuck this game, fuck talesworlds, I'm going to play modded warband until I die
>>2291268where were you @ when i was posting my list?
