>>2271914
>she sees a bicron

do you hold a spoon in your heart, /vst/ ?

Has dandy mentioned anything about the enemy design in the sequel? As much as I like Troubleshooters it feels a little too much like a horde killing game. Classes like White Knight suck mainly because Barb just cleans up shitter enemies like no one's buisness. Meanwhile all the masteries MK has to be a dueliest archetype kinda just suck unless you are fighting destrons/boss enemies. Fewer, but stronger enemies would be nice to see in the sequel imo.

>>2272074
Some of the spoonists talk went over my head. Spoon in your heart. But also First/Second Spoon. Sometimes it means the leader Sharky as the first and Carter the second (even if there was already at least 1 more Sharky confirmed by John). Sometimes it means the Spoonist group as a whole. Sometimes it's used as an event or subject. Like i had my fill at the First Spoon or something. I hope with Yuri being an MC it will be more clear in BC.

>>2272112
>i had my fill
That's the purpose of spoonage, brother. We all have our fill.

>>2272097
>Fewer, but stronger enemies would be nice to see in the sequel imo.
That's how they've designed the game from DLC1 onwards. But the fact of the matter is that even in endgame PVP teams most people's units aren't much tankier than White Clowns or Fighter Mungos. Once in a while you get a meme tank Irene or something, but they still die to snipers, Black Mages and your own Martial Artists like everything else.

File: 1760289566957528.png (133 KB, 529x510)

133 KB PNG

>>2261807
I think it would be neat if there was a way for your characters to learn enemy abilities, sorta like the enemy skill materia in FF7. There are several of them that would be nice to have on your own characters and would allow for a lot build variety. For example teaching Irene more fire mage or physical melee abilities would let her take more roles. Albus could learn more wind magic skills or physical sword skills like dimension slash. Misty could learn Cheche or Mash abilities to take on a water mage role. And Ray could learn more melee abilities for the melee meme build.
I think generally the generic enemy abilities are weaker than your team members' abilities so it wouldn't be a terrible balance issue and would mostly just serve to have more options. It might be hard to implement though if the animations can't be reused since all the main party members have their own unique attack animations.

>>2272113
a bowl of rice can hold only as much as it can hold
t. Sharky

>>2272097
>MK
>duellist
?
i guess Avalon is cancer 1v1?

File: 470310_20251201115607_1.png (1.2 MB, 1920x1080)

1.2 MB PNG

>>2272231
My froggie knows that attack. I'm sure they could work out something.

>>2272246
I meant WK lol

Is the next game out yet?

File: 470310_20251201152208_1.png (1.01 MB, 1920x1080)

1.01 MB PNG

I found a really cool interaction today
>Cauterize: Remove all debuffs on you at the expense of 5 SP per 1 debuff
Normally it can kick you out of Overcharge if it triggers while you're at max SP, but if you have Rearrangement it'll clear your debuffs and you'll still be in Overcharge.
I was mostly just running Rearrangement so Phoenix wouldn't be at risk of failing to trigger on the turn after her overcharge ends, but this is a cool thing I'd never considered.

>>2272559
Not for a long while. They haven't even shown gameplay yet.

File: 1753489998111666.jpg (814 KB, 1920x2152)

814 KB JPG

>>2272618
They said some time in early 2026 was when they intended to open early access, but that was a while ago and projects like these tend to suffer delays.
But at the very least they do have 3d models of some NPCs and enemies (from February this year) and they did show gifs of some of the new movement animations (June) so they have some barebones gameplay finished, if nothing else. The most time consuming part of development is probably making a bunch of new assets and maps in the new artstyle.

File: 1733713671725007.mp4 (3.71 MB, 1920x1080)

3.71 MB MP4

>>2272652
Here's one of the gifs of the new movement stuff, characters can actually vault over stuff now (and climb ladders)

File: 1751139205785288.jpg (1.03 MB, 1920x1080)

1.03 MB JPG

>>2272655
They also had this image in one of their dev diaries when discussing concept art and the artstyle. I don't know if this is anything they made or if it's just an image they nabbed to give an example of what they want to do.
I've tried reverse image search and there's nothing that looks like an exact match but the AI overview said that one of the images has stuff from an 3D asset pack, the others are supposedly screenshots of other games. I don't think these are actual Banished Children maps though since they don't seem to conform to a tile grid.
It would be a bit disappointing if the environments were typical unreal engine stuff, but if all this was made by Dandylion half a year ago then they're probably quite far along in development.

>>2272534
fair enough
australian moment

>>2272665
>ammunition shop
Heixingbros... not like this...

>>2272609
holy shit

File: 1761832551962063.jpg (608 KB, 1920x1080)

608 KB JPG

goodbye nigger

File: 1736844996770892.png (1.84 MB, 1286x1046)

1.84 MB PNG

Bianca is codependent on Alisa but she is into Albus.
Bianca has a girl crush on Giselle but she also likes Albus.
And Bianca doesn't like Albus at all.
I guess what they say is true, ojou-samas always lose.

>>2272954
Bianca has uncle fever and Yuri likes Bianca. Not all is lost for Bibi.

>>2272954
but which one of them has the bast chances of becoming mrs.berenstein at the end of the day?

File: 20251124020339_1.jpg (218 KB, 1920x1080)

218 KB JPG

>>2273113
Albus will go berserk at one point of the story after learning about the <<<truth>> of their parents demise. He will start hunting down and beheading Valhalla nobles. He won't have time for romance.

>>2273170
only bibi's ass can stop albus' rampage

So what will the Albus' company be called in the sequel(s)? Since they are such a big deal in Valhalla it will come up in the story every now and then. But since (You) name it in AC there is no canon name.

>>2273500
I'm pretty sure the reason they made such a big deal over Black Tiger in 60S is because Albus is going to disband the company and Black Tiger will take their place. That'll keep them out of the current news, and they can easily avoid naming it directly if speaking about it in the past.

>>2273170
I think if the old asshat guy dies he should go out after being Luigi'd by some random dude with a pistol on the street.

>>2273624
He's Bianca's grandfather so he's probably got sick wind ESP

>>2273624
I would be surprised if he would not be a gigajuiced experimental ESP boosted super boss at one point or fighting in a mecha suit.

punishment is such a bad mastery for how expensive it is. Imo it should've had a mastery set where berserker triggers alongside punishment so characters could reposition to punish the attacker or something. Kinda like a budget version of anger strike that triggers on allies being hit.

>>2273668
That's a pretty cool idea for a set. Something like
>Punishment + Berserker + Fellowship + Survival Training?
>If an ally is attacked by an enemy that's within the range of Berserker's activation, approach the enemy and trigger Punishment
In the current state of the game Punishment is still a pretty decent mastery though. If you sit next to an ally like a Battlemage you'll often trigger it against melee enemies, and you can also use it to repeatedly fuck up any enemy that has counterattacks.

total Ortega death

File: 470310_20251202092104_1.png (1.02 MB, 1920x1080)

1.02 MB PNG

Well I faced post-nerf Destrons for the first time
>Weiss and Blut are overnerfed, they're absolute jokes now, especially Weiss because the fuel nerf means it got about 4 turns of actions before depleting its reserves, and both of them are weaker than the unique Human enemies on the map
>Schwarz is still assrape incorporated at this point in the game, I felt no discernible difference between pre-nerf and post-nerf. It's still dodgy as fuck, it's still tricky to get a high enough hit to get around Special Armour, it still rapes your squishies in 1 hit and your medium strength units in 2, it still eats responsive attacks like candy
If the goal of these changes were to help people get through the campaign easier, they probably did the job, but if the goal was to make violent cases less of a wall then I don't think the nerfs went far enough for the upper tier Destrons.
Also, Remodelled Bicrons are a complete joke at this point, not worth hacking or even prioritising. Their turns are so slow and they do so little damage that they're just there for drops/exp.

File: theadmiral.jpg (56 KB, 290x200)

56 KB JPG

Wait. So having less sight stat than your attack range actually makes the attack range shorter too? Like Giselle with Gunbarrel Reinforcement has 15 attack range on snipe. But if i am not using Reinforcing Scope as her Individual mastery her sight range is 13. So even if there is someone that can act as a "spotter" for her further down she can't shoot targets more than 13 units away?

I felt something was fucky with her range but i couldn't put my finger on it. I was happily using Season Hunter for that sweet Flare utility thinking i don't need that extra sight range. The frontline will give me vision anyway.

>>2273896
>So even if there is someone that can act as a "spotter" for her further down she can't shoot targets more than 13 units away?
Yep. You either need Reinforcing Scope or some other source of sight increase to get her full range.

File: 20251201234149_1.jpg (479 KB, 1920x1080)

479 KB JPG

Here we go again...

>>2273911
>*Krupa drums intensify*

>>2272112
Sharky is the Dark Spoon.
The First Spoon are the members who lead their brothers to the Coordinates of their promised land iirc.

File: 1740010873116964.webm (3.9 MB, 1920x1080)

3.9 MB WEBM

my wives work so well together

>>2273928
Is there anything that makes you feel more like a gigabrain than when you trigger Forestallment with a knockback?

>>2273937
triggering Sen no Sen on complete accident, shitting your pants, and then realizing it doesn't matter because an ally used cover and killed the enemy swordsman mid animation.

>>2273916
The first thing that comes into my mind when this music hits is The Mask and Coco Bongo.

>>2273902
Well Sniper Giselle ain't really swimming in free basic mastery slots for sight increase other than "Sniping" mastery ofc. Gear slot is also too precious. I will live with 1 Flare i guess.

>>2273937
doing it twice
knockback -> Forestallment + Clenched Fist knockback -> Forestallment

>>2273937
Correctly guessing enemy positions in LoS with Ray's spray can kicking.

made a silly Albus MK build
>second wind
>berserker sets
>final resistance
>magic shield
>the set that jacks up the health refund from killing shit
guy just did not die and would reset his CDs so fast you could TonL every turn and have 100% wind veil uptime which made it impossible to AT stall him.

>>2274097
Is that even possible? I think that's too many Defence slots for MK

File: 20251202180608_1.jpg (292 KB, 1920x1080)

292 KB JPG

Full cleared this crap on the first try this time around with bonus ass raping from HRHR activated. While something must have been nerfed since the last time i played this 2 years ago because the Mungos themselves felt less aids. The Mungo King working on XCOM Alien Rulers logic is still an absolute dogshit idea. Still a no fun allowed mission but managable. Even with hamstringing myself with WK Alisa.

>>2275157
Its only nerfs were a week or two after it came out, where they reduced Mimicking Evasion/Attack from 5 to 3 stacks and removed Luck from the gunners. It's probably just the difference that comes from knowing how to play.

>>2275157
>While something must have been nerfed since the last time i played this 2 years ago because the Mungos themselves felt less aids.
The difficulty of the mission is pretty heavy RNG imo. Sometimes everything just goes right and other times you just get the worst luck imaginable and lose half the team. Also could just be a setup thing where you have way more reaction attacks during enemy turns which cucks their evasion gimmick.
>The Mungo King working on XCOM Alien Rulers logic is still an absolute dogshit idea.
He really is just the most annoying fucking enemy in the game. I think he would be infinitely more tolerable if his gimmick didn't trigger on single actions and instead only on seeing people end their turn in his LoS. With how he is now any ability that requires a character to be standing near him is complete RNG on if he will spazz out and target the person you just moved next to him or if he will randomly run over to a different character.

File: 1484592056222.png (45 KB, 261x227)

45 KB PNG

I don't mind Mungo King. Line of sight management is fun, his tankiness is high enough that he doesn't fold instantly except to a handful of specialised builds, and he's a rare boss in this game that changes how the entire map is played when he shows up. He's also truly optional with no unique masteries, a meme of an accessory, a mediocre weapon and only appears on Hard or higher in an endgame violent case where all the other bosses except him spawn on Normal.

>>2275448
he also spawns in a story mission where you start with only two characters on the map
but yeah, i appreciate how he makes me actually think about the next moves instead of just
>attack harder
>attack more often

File: mungokingcomparison.png (1.98 MB, 2074x1668)

1.98 MB PNG

>>2275794
That version is significantly weaker than the one that appears in the violent case. It only moves when it gets hit instead of when you spend AP, it isn't a Martial Artist, it has no items and it only has 100% crit damage reduction instead of 200%
Also if you die your entire party joins, including a revival of Irene and Leton

File: 470310_20251203084725_1.png (1.2 MB, 1920x1080)

1.2 MB PNG

Interesting, I found a bug in the modding tool. Black Mane's defence and resistance boost isn't reflected in his stats, but in-game it is.

>>2275879
>Also if you die your entire party joins, including a revival of Irene and Leton
Oh neat, I never had that happen before.

>>2275448
I wouldn't mind him so much if we had a red sand violent case to dick around with

ok this game looks cool
so i bought it
:)

>>2275879
live and learn
thanks anon

>>2276361
It's a great game if you can handle the amount of information it throws at you. One playthrough is literally like 160 hours.

File: extinction_event2.jpg (1013 KB, 2560x1440)

1013 KB JPG

Common causes of extinction events: meteors, ice ages, and womanlet redheads.

>>2276614
>*It Ain't Me starts playing*

>>2276614
>Lonely Hero Irene rampaging around crabnam
kino
>Giselle dead on crabnam
unfortunate

>>2276614
Albus getting snibeti snabbed is expected but what happened to Giselle?

i forgot how annoying Mash is, goddamn
imagine if he had Veteran jammed in his board, and some kind of silence immunity
that would be funny i think

>>2276614
I love the smell of napalm in the morning

File: 1751002942621902.png (3.37 MB, 1920x1080)

3.37 MB PNG

Does Spirit actually exist in the lore or is it just a gameplay abstraction to make non-ESP users balanced with ESP users?
If so, what exactly is it? A lot of the spirit masteries names/descriptions seem to be relating to psychological things like emotions, mental states, or traits, but some also make references to qi/chi.
Do people unlock spirit powers just through training or having lived through certain experiences? Could humans use the same darkness/gravity powers that some spirit beasts have?

File: 1761822125991044.jpg (311 KB, 700x600)

311 KB JPG

>>2276525
yea im 6 hours in, and even tho the tutorialtold me what to do with the mastery research tab
I guess i forgot and now im just looking at it cluelessly like a retard

>>2277584
This post should help: >>2234469
You can't do much with mastery crafting early game because won't have a lot of them unlocked nor will you have a big stockpile to craft with.

>>2277604
ok that post makes it make sense, thanks :)
idk why they would call it mastery research
the system has nothing to do with researching anything

>>2277616
Masteries are kinda supposed to be this game's equivalent of perks/skills so I guess it kinda makes sense in the way one would do research when trying to learn a new skill.

File: giselle_is_a_cunt_example(...).jpg (474 KB, 2560x1440)

474 KB JPG

>>2276786
>>2276890
>what happened to Giselle?
Two albino crabmits in a row decided to walk right past my tanks to shoot my (smoked) squishies on the platform.

>>2277626
>Two albino crabmits in a row decided to walk right past my tanks to shoot my (smoked) squishies on the platform.
I swear there is something fucky with crabmit AI and how they target shit. Half the time they ignore Kylie's holograms when every other enemy type will attack them first.

I wish the ranged Draki line wouldn't look so lame and derpy. It's fine for the hatchling phase but Draki Barons look dumb as hell.

>>2277478
iirc Dandylion has said it's pretty much Ki. Some Human units like the VHPD Suppressors lack it, so it probably does require training.
>Could humans use the same darkness/gravity powers that some spirit beasts have?
I'm not sure. Those attacks have ESP scaling even though they're Spirit-aligned so there might be something funky going on lorewise.

>>2277478
Fighting SPIRIT.

>>2277664
SPURDO SBARÖN :DDDD
NYOOM EBERYWHERE :DD:D
BAD BREADH XDD

>>2276614
Wanted: Habitat Destroyer Irene Lion
Reward: 3.50V$

File: fug.png (16 KB, 174x231)

16 KB PNG

>>2277850
flug XDD -20% melee hid chance :D:D:D:D

>>2277664
Dandy's animals all look derpy as hell

I hope they have a somewhat more laid out power scaling plan for Banished Children. The later parts of the main game is where builds reach critical mass and storywise it's fine having peak levels of power. But the DLCs start to break the game somewhat. The HP of any character not full invested in defense is almost binary for example.
I wouldn't mind if they didn't go for DLC's at all in BC and would just go for the next episode/game.

>>2277944
>I wouldn't mind if they didn't go for DLC's at all in BC and would just go for the next episode/game.
It was in a chink post so it's impossible to search for, but Dandy has expressed wanting to do a Luna + Anne DLC for Banished Children

File: 6abo8rqm1g691.jpg (910 KB, 4000x1800)

910 KB JPG

>>2271914
I liked this game on release but I realized that the strategy layer in XCOM completely spoiled me. I can't ever play a game like this without real consequences for losing. Yes I play Ironman. Don't regret paying for it though, their dev team is too wholesome. I wish them the best.

>>2277895
Timas look pretty badass IMO

>>2277944
They have the opportunity to rework several systems and stat scaling when making a new game from the ground up so it's possible they'll fix what made the DLCs so imbalanced. It's a pretty common complaint in reviews and on the steam forums so Dandy is aware of the problem at the very least. I personally don't mind the difficulty for late-game violent cases but it's unfair to make the main story missions that punishing for casual players. No DLC and the base game having all the content would be best though I understand why Dandylion couldn't do that unless they magically made enough money to cover all future development costs.

>>2277944
>The HP of any character not full invested in defense is almost binary for example.
I could probably write a 2000 word essay on how fucked the state of defences are in the lategame.
>offence is strong enough that most units die to a breeze
>your standard defences - armour, block and dodge - become increasingly useless as the game progresses
>yet it remains possible to counterbuild against specific enemies so that a handful of your units take 1 damage max of their 4000 HP while everyone else gets 2-shot.
Defences being overpowered isn't even a lategame-only issue. Physical Resistance 3 is such a godmode cheat for the base game that I was running Phys Res 2 for this playthrough and my units were still durable as fuck. If Dandylion are looking to solve these issues, I don't envy them.

>>2278178
Yeah its kinda fucked. You either go all in and be immortal or die in one hit. Another thing to memtion is how insanely OP draki's perfect scale is in DLC2 to the point where its pretty much the only accessory you should be using.

Why the fuck does Call of Starlight (Anne AoE dispell) alert enemies nearby?

File: 20251204172410_1.jpg (318 KB, 1920x1080)

318 KB JPG

I really fucking hope that Ryo in Banished Children will have a mastery set that reflects bullets with his sword like some kind of Jedi or something. So FAT FUCK rangers like this with 200%+ hit chance on their 10 000 different responsive fire per turn will eat their own bullets with 6 different kind of debuff aids.

>>2278846
Happens with all AOEs. If any of the tiles are within enemy vision they can see her using the skill. You can see the same thing happen to you when enemies use Encourage in the fog of war.

>>2279049
This fat fuck is annoying but the red sand rangers are even worse

>>2279271
Mark annoys me more because he's tankier. Red Sand Rangers are autocritting munchkins, but at least they die as soon as they take damage. Mark's got decent defensive stats, high block and nearly 2500 HP on top of being a responsive firean headshottan luck spamman nuisance.

>>2279049
>Mark
>Marked Target
heh

>>2279938
>>2279049
>Marksman's OutForce X +3

File: compatibilityoptimization.jpg (635 KB, 1862x1042)

635 KB JPG

Can anyone with PHD in Dandy Drone building explain to me what Compatibility Optimization does? Does it mean on this board either Damage Absorbing or Emergency Drive gets a x2? Which one will it be? Because Emergency Drive is just a free turn if the drone gets damaged for 20% of it's hp. You can't double that. Damage absorbing is kind of hard to check if the math is right.

>>2279956
X Marks the Mark

>>2280053
It doubles the bonuses from Compatibility Augmentation for whichever category has the highest TP, so with that board you'll be getting +380 armour/resistance from your Reinforcement TP instead of +190

>>2280102
Ohhh... Right! I am a brainlet. Thank you. Now it makes perfect sense.

>>2280115
Reminder: if each category has the same TP value it doubles them all

File: 1422141774572.jpg (45 KB, 592x373)

45 KB JPG

>>2280274
Oh my gawd

tournamentfags, where we at? i've just finished 60S with a blatantly underpowered/underlevelled team (Anne 48->52 on the last case alone jej) so technically ready to job in the first round
turns out you can speedrun the whole game story without ever seeing a Negoori :(( :P
and fuck me dead 54S, end of BWBW was absolute cancer
>no Forgotten Pain
>no Death Bringer
>no Battlemage of Steel
>never enough masteries for researchan
>can't craft 90% of useful shit
speedrunning is gay and fake
t. tongs

>>2279956
>Borisman's OutBoris +Boris
rare dlc Danny reference on Boris loot, maybe we'll see him in BC?

>>2280653
I'm not the organiser, but including you and myself I know there's 5 of us that are pvp-ready now. But you should probably finish levelling and get masteries and pets and stuff.

>>2280653
>>2280674
I'm also done with DLC1 but been putting it off a bit because of burnout. It's that point in the game where I actually have to start grinding for on-level gear and masteries to make actual builds instead of breezing through everything on hard with whatever random drops I got. Might just turn down the difficulty to the easiest to get through the rest of the main story.
I don't really care about having an optimal end-game build for the tournament anyways, I already plan to run a meme build on Irene when the time comes and it would give me an excuse/cope if I keep losing.
t. MungoSeeMungoDo

File: 1734052005462538.png (2.04 MB, 1920x1080)

2.04 MB PNG

>>2280653
>>2280729
Thanks for keeping in touch. As >>2280674 said, 4 other anons are confirmed ready. I'll set a soft deadline until Christmas for now, if that's alright with everyone else. That should be plenty of time to deliver any finishing touches you may want. After that, we'll start getting set on concrete dates and times, so that we can play during or after the upcoming holiday season, where most people will have some time to spare.

File: 1741191886828840.jpg (52 KB, 441x621)

52 KB JPG

>>2280653
>>2281139
Christmas is fine with me, personally. I'd be ready anytime.

I'm afraid a big thigh girl will squish my head, it wakes me up at night

File: 20251205172023_1.jpg (378 KB, 1920x1080)

378 KB JPG

That's a wrap for my replay. Gotta say i am still not a fan of the last two story mission. They highly annoying for different reasons. But i restrain myself from going on a bigger rant. I only started using HRHR after Starlight Junction because i was afraid from the extra damage sponginess.

>>2281371
kek

File: 20251120151411_1.jpg (369 KB, 1920x1080)

369 KB JPG

If Albus' mother's family name is Nox and her father is obviously Bernstein. What's up with Lily Lover being his aunt?

>>2281468
My theory is that Lily isn't his biological aunt and she adopted him as part of her glowie scheme. I don't think there's anything indicating she was related to Albus's parents or if they even knew each other.

I played 12 hours of this game years ago, enjoyed it but was at a point where I only still had two characters and every fight was just one-shotting waves of mooks.
I wouldn't mind giving it another go since I'm in a mood for grindy team-buildan, but now I just stare at the item/skills/general base menus and go "nope". Even though I've survived it before.
Ack.

>>2281468
Lily might have married someone and taken their name.

File: 20251123203716_1.jpg (382 KB, 1920x1080)

382 KB JPG

>>2281484
Oh shit. Albus is another ESP experiment. Actually that makes sense since Visha was around Lily when they made trips to the Alley kids and there is that one scene where little orphan Albus meets Visha.

File: 20251127194715_1.jpg (194 KB, 1920x1080)

194 KB JPG

>>2281796
Found the pic. Also i don't know if this is a plot hole or what but Albus should recognize it's Sion is Visha's brother. He knows the Bloodwalker name isn't common because he realized the same thing when he talked to Rion in Crimson Crow. But Visha is never brought up.

>>2281346
The mission in the rain isnt too bad but it took me 3 tries to beat 60 my first go around

>>2281371
Haha...
>>2281468
>Alma Nox
>Nourishing Night
what did dandy mean by this

>>2281926
From the company that brought us Bianca LeBlanc, the black witch

>>2281926
>>2281975
Dandy is just being chuuni leave them alone. Also what do the names say in korean anyways?

>>2282119
They're the same as in English, just spelled in hangul instead

File: 20251122214148_1.jpg (351 KB, 1920x1080)

351 KB JPG

There is nothing more hilarious than after a long mission and an emotional cutscene you are greeted with: "Albus. It's time to pay rent"

>>2282123
So its something like Bianca White(korean equivalent here)?
If so thats so dorky lmao

>>2282267
I think Anon means it's Bianca Leblanc but in korean engrish with korean moonrunes. Like how japanese say Doragon instead of Dragon when they don't change it to Ryu.

File: hangul.png (40 KB, 1327x837)

40 KB PNG

>>2282267
It's literally Bianca LeBlanc
>비앙카
>bi ang ka
>르블랑
>leu beu lang

File: 1652555067720.jpg (81 KB, 828x820)

81 KB JPG

I fucked up and cropped the pronunciation for the vowels

>>2282356
I don't know amything about korean i tried to match the runes to what you wrote. I don't understand where the second circle in "ang" came from and "beu" has that thing that looks like a 2 that stands for L at the end. So to me it looks like "beul".
God bless the latin alphabet. This stuff is not for me.

>>2282356
Also they literally have a letter for "wi". Why can't Kylie prounance Vivi? Is it 비비 in Korean? Is it actually canon called Mono and Bibi?

>>2282466
Yep. Her line for "Vivi! Attack!" is 비비! 쏴!

>>2282466
>>2282536
And Mono is 모노

alright boys its time to learn korean. There will be a quiz next week

there is something fucky going on with mastery sets that prevent guaranteed crits. Feels like any character with those types of sets gain a fuck ton of dodge chance too.

>>2282457
NTA but
iirc they use a circle as a fake consonant for syllables that start with a vowel (-ang)
and yes, Leu Beul Lang might have been a simpler transliteration

>>2282633
Guaranteed crits means they'll always crit, they'll never miss or get blocked. With Wild Cat that means you can dodge Sen no Sen and other otherwise-unavoidable attacks.

>>2282642
that I get. What I mean is something like night mist that outright makes a character immune to critical hits. I'm guess that just makes any crit miss as the default.

File: critimmunitycode.png (92 KB, 1487x889)

92 KB PNG

>>2282643
Nah, it just turns off the attacker's crits. The lines under the highlighted one are Night Mist in particular, but this also shows ESP Neutralizing Armor, Five Coloured Skin, Expected Risk and Final Resistance.
All they do is switch the attack from Critical to a normal hit.

File: Troubleshooter_AC_Artbook(...).jpg (300 KB, 1920x1358)

300 KB JPG

>>2281975
>From the company that brought us Bianca LeBlanc, the black witch
This isn't as stupid as it seems, if you assume she's based off Snow White. From a fairy tale collection I happen to own: "...a little daughter was born to her, with a skin as white as snow, lips and cheeks as red as blood, and hair as black as ebony." Now look at Bianca in pic related. Sure her lips aren't red, but the overall color scheme and description work.

>>2282658
*her design is partially based off Snow White.

File: 1738655572030868.png (529 KB, 1024x1024)

529 KB PNG

>>2282658
my QUEEN is the most beautiful woman in ALL of Valhalla, nay even the world.

File: autohit_immune.png (79 KB, 1499x809)

79 KB PNG

Here's the code for autohits and how Wild Cat, Luck and Mirage get around them.
tl;dr
>game checks whether dodging is enabled on every attack
>healing and abilities with Unavoidable automatically disable dodging and exit early (so nothing below it matters)
>then it checks for Luck on the attacker and disables dodging and exits early again
>if the defender has Luck and the incoming attack has autohit (from something like Final Blow), Luck procs, it enables dodging and exits early
>at this point if there's a mastery in the attacker that makes their attacks unavoidable (eg Final Blow), it tentatively sets ignoreDodge to true and continues
>if you have Wild Cat, ignoreDodge gets overridden to false
>if you have Mirage and it's a shooting ("force"), throw or fall attack, ignoreDodge gets overridden to false
>at this point it checks if ignoreDodge is true and exits early if it is
>next it checks the defender for things that might otherwise affect dodging, it's a big function elsewhere in the code that handles things like Lightning Reflexes
>finally it checks for Luck on the defender, which is the last line of defence against autohits

File: 1749914114734072.png (2.33 MB, 1920x1080)

2.33 MB PNG

>>2281817
I think he knows, but Albus just isn't the kind of guy to open up about that stuff. Seems like he took Don's advice about not mixing private and public affairs. Sion also doesn't really talk about that stuff since he doesn't seem like the type of guy to dwell on things that upset him.
Giselle and a few others in his company knew about Misty's larceny charges because they read her file, so I would imagine most troubleshooters have some sort of documentation on their history. Albus probably did background checks on everyone, maybe had a couple "oh shit" moments himself and started piecing things together, but didn't bring it up with anyone.

>>2282666
Your queen doesn't even want to be a queen though

File: 1761481772461315.jpg (602 KB, 1920x1080)

602 KB JPG

this bitch really ran around my entire team for the ultimate flank. I somehow never saw him until he popped out right there

File: 1561841388625.jpg (32 KB, 936x604)

32 KB JPG

>>2282810
>7623 HP
HRHR numbers are terrifying

File: 1763206619328811.png (1022 KB, 740x1080)

1022 KB PNG

>>2281265
this but a big breast girl instead. i'm absolutely terrified of getting pafu pafu from alisa

>>2282810
primate intelligence

>>2282829
no bra alert
imagine the wet tanktop during rainy missions

>>2282539
Literally a monitor and chair. No wonder Koreans are big on esport.

File: Screenshot (10356).png (1.06 MB, 1920x1080)

1.06 MB PNG

>>2281796
>>2281817
I doubt that Visha would've introduced himself with the same surname as Sion.
He was already expelled from his family at that point and on a confidential mission for Lily.

>>2282894
I don't have time to run the map right now to prove it, but in that very cutscene he introduces himself with
>I am Visha. Troubleshooter Visha Bloodwalker.

File: 20251127194735_1.jpg (197 KB, 1920x1080)

197 KB JPG

>>2282894
>>2282912

Got you senpai.

File: Heixingas.jpg (665 KB, 1920x1080)

665 KB JPG

>>2281371
Another OC for our thread culture.

>>2282921
Naruhodo.

>>2282935
kek

File: ProtoLion_MJj32cf7hz.jpg (773 KB, 2560x1440)

773 KB JPG

How does Last Ditch Effort even work?
>Kylie attacks Hiawatha and brings him to 1HP
>Albus' Pincer Movement + Bladestorm are triggered
>Hiawatha remains at 1HP, attacks neither of them, and the turn ends
Technically, he should've attacked either of them for triggering Last Ditch Effort and then died.

Where do i get Tactical Pressure mastery? The steam guides have no info on it. Might be some choice specific thing.

>>2283364
Nevermind. It looks like it's a Mungo beast training mastery. Steam guides have blind spots for Crimson Crow stuff.

File: 1763191517671463.jpg (444 KB, 1920x1080)

444 KB JPG

berserker builds on sweeper heixing are so silly.
I'm too lazy to disable limit break

what's the easiest way to tame named mungos in 58V without wanting to blow my brains out?

>>2283545
Freeze/Starlight Prison them until the area around them is clear?

File: 470310_20250516034223_1.png (1.12 MB, 1920x1080)

1.12 MB PNG

>>2283537
My man

>>2283161
it's always felt buggy as hell
and then he dies to bleed or burn before doing anything useful anyway

>>2282810
did giselle died?

>>2282810
>Alisa
>1hp
>probably fucking off somewhere rampaging in the far corner of a map with 50 Mungos
Classic

>>2283161
I think you found a genuine bug. Probably some funky interaction resulting from Kylie not being in range of his attack, but Albus is, so it thinks Kylie is a legitimate target and never gets to the "deal damage to yourself" part of the code.
Dandy would probably fix it if reported

>>2284035
Probably, the game didn't know how to respond and Hiawatha survived another additional turn afterwards despite receiving Bleed damage.
My guess would be that it's related to Hiawatha receiving damage from multiple aggressors that would cause Last Ditch Effort, but similar interactions happen to Berserker builds without any problems.

>>2283545
get them to imitate immortality, then have Ray send them to the AT shadow realm

>>2282129
Don Brucestein

>>2284329
Immortality prevents AT delay though

is there any way to make battlemage irene not feel like complete ass to play?

>>2284358
in my defence, derp
stand by Immortality though

File: 20251123220822_1.jpg (357 KB, 1920x1080)

357 KB JPG

Alchemist Ray seems like a half done class. Maybe it's just because her potion healer gimmick is not that useful. A lot of time if you fuck up the character is dead anyway or it can be managed by Anne solo healing. I guess i never really tried Ray being an overcharge giver bot, it's probably good. But if Ray got her own small game system in the base for mixing potions with different effects with some wild results she could be more fun.

With an Overcharge ability that makes a gas version of that potion/poison she is carrying in her alchemist satchel applying the effect to everyone in the area.

>>2284874
Alchemist is for status potions, not healing. She's got a mastery set that makes the side effects always apply, so you can give people Turning Over A New Leaf potions and other broken effects. She also has a mastery set that gives random buffs to people that she removes status ailments from with First Aid, so you can chuck healing mist at a group, cleanse them all and buff them up.

troubleshooter 3 needs a necromancer class that summons and equips ghosts
>ghost Heixing with Fear Me
>ghost Joel who does fucking nothing and then dies (again)
>ghost Pascal who can actually use his own overcharges

File: 20251207133916_1.jpg (497 KB, 1920x1080)

497 KB JPG

Which picture am i missing here? Chapter 4, Page 3. I am going insane.

>>2284945
iirc it's from Heixing's path through Scent of the Past

>>2284874
Alchemist can be pretty good offensively if you can time chemical concoction and the upgraded shaking shot. Some of the scholar mastery sets are nice too, but they might be a bit wasted on Ray. Grenadier Ray is just too good though.
I hope Dandy makes support classes better in BC, even White Mage Anne feels pretty bad at times and it's better to just build status immunity and healing or tankiness on your other units. Kylie is the one supportive character that is pretty strong and it's because she does a lot more than just healing or debuffs and has pretty good AT and AP economy.

>>2284947
Yes it was. Thanks! Damn Scent of the Past keeps haunting me. I guess i forgot to do the Heixing part this time due to how mind boggling it is to do that mission 6 times in a row.

File: 1762159676484366.jpg (117 KB, 750x1000)

117 KB JPG

>>2285029
I felt like a retard when trying to get all the CGs for DLC1 because I didn't know you actually had to put Roberto out of action during Irene's exam. At first I thought it came from beating the stage against all possible examiners for some reason so I tried that, then when I never saw the cutscene I still ended up redoing the mission against Roberto and Maximilian multiple times just destroying the jammers wondering why it still wasn't unlocked, then finally I actually tried fighting the examiners and finally got it. Those are some good CGs too so I felt even more retarded for missing out on them.

>>2285487
I am doing the few achievements i am missing from my first time playing on this replay. I remembered the "secret" Roberto cutscene because i missed it too the first time. YET i had to do the mission twice anyway because i defeated Roberto as the last opponent with Irene so the mission ending cutscene played with the game completely skipping Roberto's cutscene.

>>2284967
if only buying/crafting potions wasn't complete ass

>>2285984
that's why you have your gamer girl just steal potions from everyone.

>>2285984
The alchemist in town sells most of the green-rank potions. It's kind of like buying grenades from maximillion, for 20k you can buy enough to last you the rest of the campaign.

File: irene_battlemage.jpg (660 KB, 2560x1440)

660 KB JPG

>>2284598
I guess it depends on why specifically you think she feels like ass, but this board (with Lonely Hero and a Perfect Draki Scale) gives her decent survivability, offense, and the ability to take a turn more than once a century. It handles the non-destron portions of 54v pretty well, which I use as a build baseline.
Code: KSAACA3YBIASWBIUCNPT6PCMPP4JSAISAEGBWASCASPSWAICANCAKBSHBAESWKSDAECA2VSGAICTIHS9EW

File: irene_fanart.jpg (165 KB, 1240x1754)

165 KB JPG

>>2286523
I guess I should mention that Moving Castle is absolutely busted, stick that on your board and then just build around fixing whatever feels like ass, and you've got yourself a viable Battlemage.

>>2286523
darkness hunter?
>>2286525
I thought moving castle only applied to allies and not irene herself?

>>2286525
When i use moving castle on irene i always think of her going around with a cardboard castle around her body painted with crayons.

File: irene_anne_promo_full.jpg (656 KB, 4000x2227)

656 KB JPG

>>2287207
>darkness hunter?
Yes?
>I thought moving castle only applied to allies and not irene herself?
Nope, like every other effect in the game I've payed attention to, the character with the ability is included in the set "allies".

Luck has to go in the sequel. You know when people complain about getting "unlucky" in XCOM because "i missed 5 75% hits in a row, there is nothing i could've done game just decided i have bad luck". Luck buff in Troubleshooter is REALLY how shitters envision what happened to them. It might not usually be a mission ender but it's always a wow fuck you moment.

>>2287692
I agree with you. Hanson was cancer in DLC1 because he could spawn with luck and 1 shot from fog of war and mungo king is cancer in DLC2 with randomly 1 shotting people with luck.

still mad that heixing's put distance doesn't count for reaction attacks. I used mod tools to change that and playing sweeper as a berserker with forstallment/counter attack triggering it is fun.

File: bs.jpg (273 KB, 1913x1080)

273 KB JPG

>>2287703
>mungo king is cancer in DLC2 with randomly 1 shotting people with luck.

My rant was exactly after i spent an hour or so trying to do the "stay alive till reinforcements come" achievement on the Irene/Leton mission. Since i am stubborn retard i was hellbent on doing it on C/C HRHR. I had to carefully balance AT stalling/freezing this hairy bastard without killing him. But this fucker on one try i shit you not procced luck 3 turns in a row. Not even Draki's Noble Scale could outcheese him that time.

>>2287764
If you have Forestallment it'll eat his luck before he can attack with it

>>2287745
And it's Blunt type. What the fuck were they thinking? Maybe if there were other Blunt options available to him for a build. Like a Pistol Whip as a Basic Ability instead of Mind's Eye Shot and a melee range gut punch+point blank shot execute SP ability.

>>2287768
Irene was a Forestallment/Counterattack Martial Autist. Problem was she killed the Mungo King in close range combat. I really didn't want to fuck around with slowly taking a few damage boost out of the Mastery Board. In retrospect i maybe should have unequipped the weapon on Irene for a fast solution. I don't know. It's already done. Wasn't fun.

>>2287764
you know you can just not attack him right
the timer extension he gets from throwing shit isn't enough to keep the mission running forever

>>2287847
Right at the beginning he throws a car for +200 AT if you don't reach him fast enough. I assumed he keep doing that.

File: 1750655959172463.jpg (280 KB, 1920x1080)

280 KB JPG

its funny to me how hard the difficulty of this game alternates. What is a good setup vs red sand is usually a bad setup vs mungos. This used to be the hardest mission in my first playthrough but on replay its a cakewalk (tbf I knew the enemy positions this time around). Drones with auto dodge and then slapping shout of subconcious on everyone neuters the response fire spam.

>>2287849
he does so you can't ignore him lol
>>2287764
the more you play 58V the more you begin to despise luck as a status effect.

>>2287849
yeah, then he derps around for a bit, then the next rock is only 100AT, then he derps around even more, dandy set it up so even casuals could make it through

>>2287692
luck gives precisely one (1) _almost_ guaranteed crit or dodge
one
uno
ichi
if you can't handle that then the mungos are welcome to you

>>2287692
>>2287703
>>2287764
I hate to be that guy, but if Hanson with one roll of Luck can 1HKO your melee units, then you've unironically been filtered.
Even Mungo King with guaranteed crits isn't able to kill most of my bulky units.

Tfw i realize my hunter build my not even be good it's just the Draki King being broken. Sidenote camouflage is kind of shit and slow.

>Ray can't use her elemental damage bombs when silenced
Bruh...

>>2288182
luck fucks with MK's AI or something. Every time he procs it he runs to a different postal code to chuck a rock at giselle or bianca for some reason.

>>2288620
Camouflage can be used for cheese strats but I wouldn't bother with it otherwise

>>2288647
Any ability deals elemental damage is considered ESP/magic for the purposes of silence

File: mistybasic.jpg (125 KB, 533x657)

125 KB JPG

25% bleed chance on the basic ability is kind of a gamble. Am i missing a mastery or there is no way to increase Misty's bleed chance on this easily?

>>2289063
There is a legendary knife that always triggers bleed on crit

>>2288647
>>2288790
how about Kylie's elemental attacks? does silence lock her into physical only?

>>2289516
I'm too lazy to verify right now but I seem to recall that it does

File: 470310_20250502184209_1.png (1.12 MB, 1920x1080)

1.12 MB PNG

>>2289516
Kylie's a special case
>>2288620
Camouflage is kino if you build your Giselle like a ghetto Sniper rather than going heavily into Hunter masteries. It turns her into an unblockable, undodgeable invisible assassin that triggers Surprise when she attack people.

File: 470310_20251210115329_1.png (1.04 MB, 1920x1080)

1.04 MB PNG

>>2289516
>>2289677
Forgot to complete my post
Kylie is a special case because Attack Protocol itself doesn't have a damage type, only its sub-protocol thingies do, so it doesn't go on cooldown when rangers fuck with her and she can still use the ESP commands. It's a typeless attack that does ESP damage, if that makes sense.

File: 470310_20251210121301_1.png (1.71 MB, 1920x1080)

1.71 MB PNG

>>2289685
Proof

File: 470310_20251210122513_1.png (1.04 MB, 1920x1080)

1.04 MB PNG

Here's what actual ESP attacks look like. The important part to determine whether it gets silenced or put on cooldown is "Damage type: Fire" up top. ESP utility skills like Wind Veil have a "Used Type" instead.

>>2289685
hax lol, no wonder Ray hated her during WLBW

File: 1751037573515212.jpg (460 KB, 1920x1080)

460 KB JPG

>>2286523
>>2287556
thanks anon, this is what I ended up with and its crazy strong.

total Jim death
(but only after spawncamping his summons)

Steal specced Misty with "The Expert" is kind of fun. Probably not optimal but it's fun. I wish there was a Superstar/Dancer with this stealing gimmick. Constantly resupplying consumables with 0 action time use.