Mapuche edition Prev >>2264409
Friendly reminder that ALL new civs are good so long as they are within the time period and representing a previously unrepresented or too generically represented (e.g. Indians) people.DLC should ONLY be new civs and campaigns.
>>2290128The ancient DLCs were superb though
>>2290122>Last Chieftains>Has a Conquistador on the promo art
>>2290140What's your point?
I like how the news include AoE Mobile coming to PC. I bet it's a bigger cash cow than all the others combined.
justice for my nigga aoe3
>>2290201That nigga ded
So they're adding literal stone age cultures to AoE2 now?
Why shouldn't we have 100 civs?
>>2290122Vikings split? Slav split? Polynesians? GET TO IT MICROSHITSOFTS
What civilizations do you have in the game? Here are some that deserve to be added:Tanguts (Western Xia)Tibetan (Tufan Kingdoms)Thai/SiamChampaNubia/SudanSomaliaKongoYorubaZimbabweHuasaTarascans/PurepechaMixtecZapotecChimorAlansKhazarsVlachsSouth Slavic civilization
>>2290122Where's Sengoku? Also move Three Kingdoms out of AOE2.
>>2290122Show the real image OP
>>2290253>the strongest western empire of the XVI century couldnt beat a stone age civilization using spears and rocks
>>2290122Libervirgos on suicide watch.
>>2290128Sorry chud. Chronicles is here to stay
>>2290141conquistadors were not injun chieftains, therefore they should not be on the artor have the british on the rise of rajas art and russians and turks on mountain fags art
>>2290321>Total mapuche victory>200000 deaths
>>2290321>a handful of unwashed, retarded, barely equipped explorers without supplies and officers couldnt beat an entire ugabuga army of stone age civilization using spears and rocksftfy*>inb4 MUH ZULUSZulus faced regular british army
>>2290140Who do caused the Chieftains to become the Last, anon?
>>2290332African Kingdoms had a Portuguese man in it even though he was not African. Last Khans had Lithuanian dude who was clearly not a Khan. The Conquerors featured this arab guy who wasn't even from a new faction. It's commonplace to feature one exception in the art.
>Even AoM got an updateWhy did aoe3 got ended again?
>>2290356AoE3 is just kinda not as good. A huge shame because I love the music, graphics, all sounds and setting, but it's all plagued by bonkers decisions and just unfun gameplay.
>>2290321Anon, Spain never sent a tercio unit to the Americas. The explorers were literally common people with no experience and other indians. If they really tried they would have conquered them instead the mapuche willfully became subjects of Spain.
>>2290122I'm so excited for Mapuche paladins bros! Finally get to smash those euro cuck civs!!!
Can't wait for the>Spanish Split (Iberian Reconquerors - Castile/Catalan/Basque/Galician/Andalusian)>Viking Split (Deadly Farsailers - Danish/Swedish/Norwegian/Icelander)>Briton Split (Islander... I don't know - English/Walish/Irish/Scottish)-Frank Split (French/Celt/Norman/Occitan)-German Split (holy shit nigger what the fuck are you doing)I know there will be a dumb retard here who will want this. At least all of these make more sense than countries that don't even know what a castle is.
>>2290417>don't even know what a castle is.You can bet at least the Tupis are getting a 600 wood 50 stone building that has 1/4th the hp of a castle but the same firepower
>>2290308>not swiss or venetians
>>2290417>don't even know what a castle is.I have no social memedia, how's the reaction this time?
I've never played AoE1, is the DLC port to AoE2 worth it and fun? I'm interested only in the campaigns
>>2290457>I'm interested only in the campaignsDefinitely, best AoE1 experience is the added Sargon campaign, followed closely by the Phyrrus one.
>>2290455No idea because I don't either but I will bet it's the same as always>Omg I am glad we are having (region) representation!>I am from (country) and I am in tears now!>Can't wait to play the new campaigns!>WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BUFF CONQUISTADORS THE GAME IS RUINED
>>2290133Chronicles is great, the real problem is Three Kingdoms.
>>2290334>>2290338>>2290376Is this how you cope?>It doesn't count because uhhhmmm *checks notes* it wasn't a REAL Spanish army, OK?>It is only a REAL Spanish army when they win otherwise it does not count.Laughing at your fragility. The best thing AOE ever did was diversify beyond European civilizations. Oh, sorry, I am sure that they are not "civilized" enough for you unless they are European, even when they beat your ass.
>>2290321>Counting civilian colonists as militarypathetic
>>2290417All of those spleets are more valid than India, fantasy china and meso trbial spleets.
Can't wait!
>>2290490... Are you retarded? I am just pointing out you can't say they "resisted the most powerful empire in XVIth century". The Spanish barely fucking tried. What civilization? Show me your mapuche>barracks>castle>houses>churches>towers>wallsThis doesn't even qualify as a civilization.
>>2290122These should have been aoe3 civs...
>>2290334>the soviet union didnt beat the nazis because i said so!!>>2290338>>2290376then explain to me what the fuck happened to the Aztecs and the Incas, because according to your logic, the spanish didnt sent either any army against both of them yet they still won in less than a few yearsfor me it sounds like pure cope
>>2290122Wtf Alberto Barbosa is white now?
>>2290417I do want a german split. I'd take a french split but just becasue I wish they were less two dimensional.
>>2290504Anonymous... The Spanish had the tercios who were literally dominating Europe for decades. Yet not a single tercio unit was placed in the Americas because it wasn't needed. Cortez and Pizarro didn't need trained armies but they also were geniuses on their own right. Specially Cortez who sieged Tenochtitlan with ships. The Spanish conquerors were literally guys who went to taverns and asked>Alright who wants to conquer the new world with me.They weren't conquests directed and funded by the crown as most were private enterprises
>>2290504Beat what you fucking retard? The mapuche swore loyalty to the king of Spain. Motherfucker even in the Chilean and Argentine independences the mapuche fought for Spain.
>>2290503Montezuma is already in base aoe2
I just find it funny that they're going to add tupi as a civilization when they're barely even a unified culture
>>2290532I see it as filling a gap for all of the jungle tribes, as the Tupi are just the most recognizable
>>2290532No cahokian neolithic architecture kino, sad.
>>2290549Well yeah but that's like adding indo-european as a civilization to fill the gaps in AoE1
>>2290557>that's like adding indo-european as a civilization to fill the gaps in AoE1But you don't, that's why you color swap them between Scythians, Sarmatians and whoever you choose as third.
>>2290526The mapuche werent really anything too interesting until the 3 period.
>>2290526Korean standalone scenario and Burmese campaign are later than Montezuma iirc
>>2290549It's called age of empires, not age of tribes.
>still no khitan and jurchen campaignsNobody asked for 3k. Even the chinese hated that shit. Also it's not like there would be any backlash for splitting China since those ethnicities had long ceased to exist.>inb4 manchuThose were in a different label in current day.
Be honest. Are you in favour of civ splits at this point? If not, what would you do to get more revenue?
>>2290584Just release more Chronicles
>>2290312Didn't even know this was a thing.How bad is it?
>>2290632:)
>>2290621This, more ancient stuff in that period using the architecture sets they have. Such cool buildings with just one civ each using them.
>literal tribes that have never invented commerce will have a town center>literal tribes that have never seen a pond of water will have cannon galleons>literal tribes that haven't seen a stone house will have castles>literal tribes that haven't invented metallurgy will have paladinsThank you Microslop
>>2290632you remember that game evony, came out one william years ago using stolen age of empires assets for a shitty browser game? became the blueprint for every single strategy adjacent mobile game in existence?it’s an evony cloneevony wanted you to believe it was an aoe clone (it wasnt) and now aoe has an evony clonewhat a world
>>2290679You can blame the spleeters for this one
>>2290679We need that sweet sweet sudacamoney.
>>2290632It made Microsoft kill Age of Noob and thriw his carcass into a ditch
>>2290679Who said they'll have paladins? Cannon galleon will definitely be replaced by a regional canoe and literally all of those had commerce.
Are African civilizations a bit unexplored? Ethiopian shotels are dope, no idea wtf more is over there though, maybe a boring dry Savanah?
>>2290704>south americans>having money
>>2290774Colombia, Argentina, Chile and Brazil combined make over 8k out of the 25k current active playerbase, thats almost 35%so get wrecked you stupid Gringo
>>2290796chileans and argentinans massacred and wiped out the mapuche people and now they try to appropiate it.
>>2290443Suebians civ as an umbrella for High Germans with Landsknecht UU.
>>2290417briton split will include the USA. God bless
>>2290796And they're too poor to buy this dlc or it will be priced at 25 US cents so the sale is meaningless. What next?
>>2290765They're unexplored because we>they didn't leave many, if any, records>often repeated over the same area several times, with redundancy >gameplay-wise, they lack a unique identity to give characteristics toI'm okay with Malians being an umbrella for west African Sahel states like Ghana and the Songhai, while Ethiopia also is kinda Nubia/SudanBut, with the games' scope, sure you can add 50 million subsaharan civs, you have to treat some like umbrellas -- the Inca (west), Musica (north), Tupi (east), and Mapuche (south) for South America's case.Not every civ needs a 1-1, so suggestions like >>2290308 for Nubia/Sudan, Somalia, Swahili, Yoruba, Kongo, Zimbabwe, Hausa, Kanem-Bornu run into a lot of bloat. If there was a game/mod solely focuaed on Africa, they could give the detail for all those people, but, since the primary focus* so far has been Eurasia, they could be grouped into something like>west Africa: Mali (Ghana, Songhai)>mid-Sahel (Hausa, Kanem-Bornu)>east Africa: Ethiopia (Sudan, Nubia)>eastern, coastal Africans (Somalia, Swahili)>jungle Africa (Yoruba, Kongo, Zimbabwe) Are these incredibly broad strokes for a lot of differen folks? Yes, but what mechanical differences could make them entertaining in-game that's not already bloat? Like the Jungle Africans are all a europe-distance apart from eachother, and could all exist independently but I don't see any benefit it: Rise of Nations had a generic "Bantu" civ that covered a whole lot, so if they could be more generic, if not archaic, they could capture a lot of different people groups so that we arent having Northwest Southern-Sahel Shrublands Nigerian tribe 1 as its own civ
how would you buff the handcannoneer? for me, i'd reduce the cost and creation time slightly.
>>2290900Of all these the Swahili would probably be the only sufficiently important African civ to add imo. They had a lot of trade with the rest of Africa, Arabia and even India
>>2290332Your IQ is room temperature
>>2290346I thought he was supposed to be Attila
>>2290140Gonzalo Jimenez de Quesada was the last chieftain of the Muiscas
>>2290939Plus they're already present in the game. In the third mission of the Portuguese campaign that take place around Zanzibar, Although of course they're represented by Mali and Ethiopians instead.
>>2290974I wonder if the "official tips and strategies" still hold up
>>2291002Sounds like an interesting youtube video idea. Someone calls Hera.
>>2290140>They remade the Alberto Barbosa meme
>>2291055what a convoluted meme that was
https://youtu.be/T5adz22JxGM?si=jcyy8xJIXfDbqLRu>wololo seething that his even more super obscure south american civs werent pickedlmao
>>2291072Incas are the only non-obscure pick. If you're going to pick fucking Muiscas might as well pick Chimus since they already appear in the campaigns.
>>2291072>people want 6 more Andean civs
>>2291072he correctly predicted mapuche and muisca, tupi are just literal mudhut stone age shitters even in current year and have no place in the game, so it's obviously gonna bother him (as it should you)
Why do people want these retarded civs in so much?
>>2291172redditors just want more civs so they can consoom
AoE4 seem to be the superior game for historical accuracy
>>2291172you will have an African civ that only apppeared as a footnote in some record from the 1200's and you will like it !
>>2290964still higher than Hera's
>>2291196rent free
>>2291172retarded consoomers
at least now they might update the inca campaign so its not just Incas everywhere for 6 cenarios
how do you justify "civs" that don't know what a house is?
>>2291209Ah, yes, incas fighting the tupis.
>>2291210Paying market.
>>2291211Mapuche at least out of the three
>>2291213I am not paying shit. You aren't paying shit right? then who is?
>>2291218nah I'm gonna buy and enjoy this
I don't want ANY updates for AoE2, I want them to remove EVERYTHING added after conquerors so we can get rid of this REDDIT BLOAT
>>2291072>"as if nothing interresting happened in south america before the spanish arrived"YES
>>2291235>he wants A*tecs in his medieval game.
the amazing campaign of the Tupi when Chief QUELCATAPOTEK led his army of 200 loincloth warriors to destroy the 5 hut village of Chief CUANTAKALEK
>>2291251yeah I'm looking forward to the added flavour
>Barely discover fire by the time of the game >Get put in anyway
what are you underappreciated civs?
>>2291260are some*
Age of Rocks when???
>>2291260Bengalis
Should we add Vlandians next?
>>2291214They're not in the Pachacuti campaign. Only Chimus and Aymaras.
>>2291267No.Khuzait or bust.
>>2291267next is obviously Skraelings
>>2291277I hope North America is next.We need the Roman Empire of the New World, at last.
>>2291278picrel>you can't delete a post this old
While 3 civs is more than the usual for a DLC, I took the time to shitpost a new list.2 Civ DLC list—-Thai/ChampaSclaveni/VlachPurepecha/ZapotecKongo/SwahiliTagut/Tufan/Dali(Tagut are a spleet so they don’t count)3 Civ list—-Thai/Champa/MonControversial as the Mon are effectively the base genes for Thai peasantry. But the Phillipines are covered by the Malay civ.Sclaveni/Vlach/SwissI could of said Ukraine or NovgrodPurepecha/Zapotec/ChimuOnly two are near each other but Chimu fill a space between the Inca and MusicaKongo/Swahili/SaoThe Sao cover a group of Central African trading cultures that existed from AOE 1 to AOE 3Tagut/Tufan/DaliThe Khitian/Tagut spleet is the easy option here so this would happen first
>>2291278They could do some pretty cool architecture for north americans
>>2291309It's Haudenosaunee, chud
>>2291278Yeah and colonials.
>>2291251The site text already mentions which campaigns will be in the game: Lautaro, Pacanchique and Arariboia. So, in the Tupi campaign, Arariboia and the Temiminós will join forces with the Portuguese to fight against the Tamoios and the French.
>>2291464Rare moment of lucidity from Reddit.
>>2291464Stone walls will be the dealbreaker for me.Goths don’t get stone walls because they were from 1999.But Tupi might because modern devs hate big differences that might upset the Arabia/Area meta.
>>2291539>Goths don’t get stone walls because they were from 1999.
>>2290122>Be chilean>Heard the fucking mapuche are being added of all things>Check the comments in chilean sites bracing for the worst>"OMG! We iz best country in Chile! They better have some super op cavalry unit because, did you know? Mapuche were the only natives to tame horses! And they should have a bonus against spanish because they were the only natives to ever resist the europeans! Oh, oh! And they must have machi unique units too that are like super healers in touch with mother earth! Oh oh, oh! And, and they better make a heckin' reference to Galvarino who totally had blades on his stumps like Wolverine! Oh, and did you know that mapuche were able to dodge musket fire? That means they must have a bonus against ranged units, Oh, OH, OH..."I live in a third world country that barely appears in the maps yet has the ego of the chinese... Hell some niggers think they'll finally make regional variants of the base units just for these fuckersAlso. I'm ready to laugh at whatever the fuck they will come up for the castle and wonder since these motherfuckers never built anything bigger than a ruca. I'm ready to bet money it will include a Rehue and/or oversized Chemamull
>>2291464>The cumans and huns were not very advanced or centralized, to say the least.Holy fucking reddit. Yeah the civ who sacked rome had no organization or capability guiz! Such utter desperation to defend people who lived in huts and chucked spears.
>>2291565>tame horsesthey still believe horses weren't extinct before the spanish arrived?
>>2291565Chile is above average GDP-per-capita though, amongst the likes of Turkey and Russia
>>2291565>Also. I'm ready to laugh at whatever the fuck they will come up for the castleit's right here
>>2291576>Wholesome chungus natives from Wolsom city>Doing anything negativeNigga, when I made the mistake of picking history in college I got smacked with wave after wave of Noble Savage bullshit. Hell, when I was there, they kept teaching that Monte Verde was THE most ancient settlement in the Americas (and they were clearly mapuche btw) just to dunk on the evil gringo Clovis First theory.>>2291585Yeah, I saw that preview pic the first time and was like, "the fuck is that? Some stolen Pucara?"
>>2291585Can we just assume the units in these pics are their UUs? Spear cav, midget archer and whatever the third one was.
>>2290133Sure, but they can go be great in AOE1. They only used aoe2 to piggyback off the bigger player base, same with RoR and three chinkdoms.
>>2290253Amerindians had metallurgy
>>2290301We should. The more the better so long as they fit the theme. There isn’t a single downside to having the entire world in the game.
>>2290888Least stupid yankee
>>2290584The only civs that need a split are dravidians and the fucked up khitan civ. The other civs that cover too many people just need some additions to their periphery eg tibetans with Chinese.
>>2291658OK let's intentionally downgrade the DLCs to appease your autism
>>2291172I want every civ that isn’t already in the game to be in the game, simple as. Covering more people, stories, and aesthetics is interesting. Splitting teutons into 500 different principalities would be fucking lame.
>>2291235Just go play the original conquerors then instead of DE
>>2291464Who gives a fuck about technological advancement? Thats just numbers on a stat page. Showing off the new aesthetic is what matters.
>>2291668Why would the dlcs be downgraded by being in the game they actually fit the time period for?
>>2291672Yeah when are we getting inuits and sick new IGLOO aesthetics?!!?
>>2291660proofs?
>>2291673You're either stupid or facetious Neither is worth taking seriously
it's interesting that aoe2 is on it's way to bloating itself to 60 playable factions while the other boomer rts game hasn't even had a balance patch since 2001.
>>2290253>addingthe major american civs presently in the game were barely beyond stone age developmentbut you'd better prepare for more and worse perversionsthe legion of subhumans clapping over this are already demanding more "representation" from north america, africa, australia, and pacific islandsthey will buy the DLCslop and you will enjoy it
>>2291710the future is brown and beautiful!!!1
>>2291713XOR
Reminder that we>Wouldn't have gotten into this mess if Ensemble didn't add Meso civs>Redditors wouldn't have screeched about how muh Yurope overrepresented where the brown civs atI'm fine with more Asian and even more African civs but the Americas were completely different in technology.It's quite clear that the only way to add these civs and have them balanced somewhat while also portraying them somewhat realistically is to make a completely different tech tree.... which is what AoE 3 didConquerors is the OG bloat though
>>2290504>aztecsdestroyed by their own vassals>incansconquered by a coalition force during a civil war
>>2291733
>check any thread about the dlc>half the posts are chileans going crazy we wuz kangs about the machupeHow much propaganda were these guys fed in school really
>>2290900>Yes, but what mechanical differences could make them entertaining in-game that's not already bloat?This is the Age 2 thread. Look at what they managed with just SEA and then tell me. They aren't even all that similar. Look closer at each biome and you'll find multiple stand-out options for each that'd have to be designed differently from one another.Within the western Sahel, you couldn't make the Wolof, Fula, or Songhay civilizations play like Mali without sacrificing their most noteworthy aspects and forcing them to use parts of the tech tree they historically didn't. If you split and reworked Mali, those three civs, as well as Yorubas, could each have fully fleshed-out designs, even without centering them on a regional unit.Similarly, for the Central Sahelians (Hausa, Tuareg, Kanuri, and Sao), you'd have to intentionally reduce all of them to "Sahelians living somewhere near Lake Chad, ooh camels plus fishing" for them to overlap. Do anything else and they're fine.
Racist chuds, stop trying to gatekeep indigenous groups
>>2291741They've been hit by this really hard over the past 20 years:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenismo
>>2291755Diminish them how, wasn't it proven that they weren't stupid but the isolation and hostile environment caused them to lag behind?Just because they don't fit the base gameplay doesn't mean they were retarded subhumans, it's AoE 2 not the UN.
The devs have lost the plot. I blame Microsoft.
>>2291755I remember some guy on that reddit once who was arguing that American civs actually had all the same advancements in tech as Old Worlders but because they weren't warmongering chuds they never needed to make metal weapons or fortifications etc. and so appeared primitive to us.
chileans were a fucking mistake
>Age of Empires 2>literal tribes that weren't even organized in states
don't you get tired of seeking new reasons to be outraged
>>2291775the most charitable explanation is simply that their development was delayed by several thousand years because the continent was settled several thousand years later than Eurasia
>>2291818mesos have been in AoE2 for 25 years
>>2291819you don't even know what meso means
>>2291687Actually, CHUD, the inuits were a very advanced and organized society before the bigoted europeans genocided them.
>>2291821if it were aztecs being added in 2025 you would be spitting with rage
>>2291824I'm spitting with rage because we're getting mudhut hippies instead of actual empires like the Chimu.
>>2290796How do we get more whites to play? I want to play against other Europeans.
>>2291819They were a mistake then, and the new additions are measurably worse.More importantly, this expansion is an indication that the devs don't see them as a mistake, and are going to continue with these absurd pandering additions despite an overcrowded roster and the apparent exhaustion of options for innovation within the AoE2 formula. They're going to milk this game to death in search of perpetual profits, and then we'll be back to Voobly.
the only reason redditors think mapuches are cool btw
>>2290330That had better be male
>>2291828>They're going to milk this game to deathgoodgames don't last forever, so give me all the campaigns it has in it while it's still around
>>2291840games dont last forever, buy aoe4! and after that buy aoe5!
>>2291842yes new games are made, what's your point?
>>2291845my point is that your reasoning of why milking games to death is a good thing actually is retarded goy nonesense.
>>2291853so you don't want to add as much content as possible to existing games, and you also don't want new games. Should we just stop making new things?
>>2291805>Lol you are getting outragedThese 3 "civs" never made a single stone building historically. That's how fucked this is.
>>2291857how many stone buildings did the Huns build?
>>2291856>so you don't want to add as much content as possible to existing gamesexactly, I don't want "as much content as possible">and you also don't want new gamesI want to move to a new game because I think it's good, not because my old game got milked for quick cash
>>2291565How do you cope with the mapuche siding with the Spanish in your independence and your country literally genociding them?
>>2291861AoE2 will still exist if they add even 200 more civsyou'll be able to go into a multi match and play Franks vs. Teutonsor replay the Joan of Arc campaign
>>2291860Kek, for one, the Huns had advanced engineering to be able to siege peak cities of their time. You really can't fucking make this comparison.
>>2291869I wasn't the guy who specifically brought up stone buildings as the point of comparison
>>2291856The more you add the more you muddy it. You niggers didn't learn shit from 3 kingdoms didn't you?
>>2291865>AoE2 will still exist if they add even 200 more civsno, the official multiplayer would not exist if the game had 250 civs, because no new player would play a bloated mess like that. We already have this problem now that it's too much for new players. At that point it would be up to the community to come up with their own queue. And that also brings dozens of problems with it.
>>2291870Well the Huns are an anomaly considering they were nomadic but they also banished instantly with history. Even the Mongols have stone buildings. Regardless it was a shit comparison.
Mesos weren't a mistake at all. They had organized armies and state. These are literal tribes how the fuck are they even in question? Next civs will be Polynesian and Injun.
this looks retarded. jungle dwellers with a neolithic tool kit? how the fuck is that supposed to work? and theres a pic of new world "cavalry", why are there fucking horses for new world factions?
>>2291886Let the resident chileans (half the posters here) tell you all about it.
>>2291741>How much propaganda were these guys fed in school reallyChilean here. You have no fucking idea>The mapuche are the only natives to resist and beat the europeans and were the last to be colonized (No, even in college the north american natives are glossed over)>The mapuche were one of the only natives in america to master the horse when it was introduced by the europeans. When you think of mounted natives, you think of mapuche (No! Stop thinking about Sioux and other plains indians right now!)>The mapuche invented maneuver warfare (in school they called it "Guerra de Movimientos" or something like that). The Mapuche warchiefs were so great their tactics are taught in war academies like West Point>The conquest of Chile was basically heckin' Star Wars, with literally the whole of the Spanish Empire vs a small quirky chungus band of freedom fighters. Then you actually grab a book and shit like the battle of Santiago was closer to that one scene of Starship Troopers with a shitty palisaded town center being swarmed by thousands, with the defenders only surviving because apparently a meteor passed over their heads and scared the living shit of the injuns>When they captured Valdivia (the dude, not the town), they inflicted heckin' poetic justice on him by pouring molted gold down his throat as punishment for his greed. This was blatantly copypasted from roman history, in reality he was most likely cannibalized>What this nigga said >>2291864 Mapuche are portrayed as being key to the chilean independence then being backstabbed by the evil chileans, in reality a large chunk of them were on the royalist side thanks to the Treaty of Quillin>The rough territory these fuckers ever occupied being one unified polity (Wallmapu) which would've been the biggest nation in the continent at the timeAnd so on and so forth
>>2291902Why do I get the distinct feeling South Americans are being fed US Alphabet propaganda for decades by this point to distance them from Europe
>>2291840>give me all the campaignsThis is what I really don't understand. Supposedly most customers are only interested in single-player or co-op. So why do they center these expansions on multiplayer instead of creating campaigns for existing civs? Why do they keep shoveling shit into ranked which would be perfectly serviceable in Chronicles? With AoE1 and 2 coupled now, they have barely covered an incredibly rich three-millennia span of history, and they're choosing to make a multiplayer civ based on naked savage cannibals.
>>2291911Other way around. The little intelligence we have always point to european NGOs stirring shit. Then you have the whole story about that one french filibuster trying to make himself the "King of Araucania and Patagonia", that even Paradox fell for and now Chile in hoi4 has the equivalent of Spain's wholesome chungus global Anarkiddie route where the mapuche not only take over Chile, but create a continent-wide injun federation, putting the token injun tribe(s) of each country in control (Don't ask how this work when said tribes only numbers in the hundreds)
>>2291884>They had organized armies and stateYou heard the man. Add every Stone Age polity to ever exist into AoE2 NOW. And they had better be BALANCED.
>>2291884Polynesians were more organized and technologically advanced than the tupi.
>>2291921I am ok with this. Add more three kingdoms civs too though. I want to play as my heroes from Jing Province and the epic wholesome Nanman peoples.
>>2291933Not until my Palatinate civ and 30 Years' War campaign.
>>2291933>and the epic wholesome Nanman peoplesYou joke, but I'll rather have the nanman for the meme take on them over chink faction (ruled by Ping), chink faction (ruled by Pong) and chink faction (ruled by Circulate)
When are they adding Sturgia? Batannians are subhuman and shouldn't be put in the game though
>>2291902I for one think eagles are cooler than conqs. True story. I welcome the dlc
>>2291943The problem with Nanman is that most of the difference is made up. They were just the same crap but in romance of the three kingdoms they had superpowers like controlling animals and using poisonous waters. But muh epic donut steel Zhuge Liang had better magic and so he won.
>>2291833I thought it was because of the horses and gunpowder.
>>2291886>>2291890>and theres a pic of new world "cavalry", why are there fucking horses for new world factions?The mapuche are known for stealing horses from the spaniards and quickly learning how to ride them. One of the most "famous" (as famous as anyone in this shithole can be, anyway) mapuche warchiefs, Lautaro, was Pedro de Valdivia's squire/stableboy and raised by him as if he were his own son. Hell, some depictions of them in media show them also looting armor, swords and cannons from the spaniards, so I won't be surprised if microsoft uses that as excuse to give them bombard cannons too, making them a reskin of AoEIII's iroquois.
>>2291902You sound a lot like a shitty republican Kast voter, im sorry for your mental illness. Im happy the mapuches are getting and expansion so the whole aoe2 playerbase can see how cool they are, and make chilean chuds seethe.
>>2290499>Show me your mapuche>barracks>castle>houses>churches>towers>wallsYour move, chud.
>>2292081>raised by him as if he were his own sonno good deed goes unpunishedthe Chinese shall inherit the Earth
>>2292081>and raised by him as if he were his own sonyou forgot the part where he was only spared for being a child to be used as personal slave, meanwhile his father was executed and his family and relatives were turned into slaves and their feet toes cut so they couldnt escape, which is called "mochar" in spanish. Concepcion, the biggest city in the frontier between mapuche and spaniards is literally placed on a valley named "Mocha's Valley" in reference to thisso fuck off you god damn idiot, spaniards were assholes and im glad the mapuche humilliated them time and time again
>>2290122Age of Empires 3 is highly underrated
Nice DLC, guys. Wowee, that sure is something.
>>2291912>So why do they center these expansions on multiplayer 1. vocal minorities screech when civs aren't available in ranked even if they won't play them2. they think people won't want a 'campaign only' DLC because of victors and vanquished ignoring that people review bombed that because it was made up of NON-CAMPAIGN, PREVIOUSLY FREE scenarios.
I can't wait for>cavalry meso civ>gunpowder meso civ>naval meso civ
>>2292231caribs or taíno could be the naval one
>>2291754>forcing them to use parts of the tech tree they historically didn'tyou mean like those ethiopian arbalests and incan cannon galleons?
>>2292243>>2292231>A bunch of canoes tanking scorpion bolts and cannonballs then sinking galleons and turtle ships with arrows and spearsYOU ALREADY HAVE AOEIII FOR THAT! AVENGE AOEIII! REVIVE AOEIII! AAAHHH!!!
>>2292259No I will not buy your Goyfeed
>>2292175>raising a man to know your tactics etc after you killed his family infront of himLiteraly the same fucking mistake as with Armenius , why the fuck do peoples do this thinking they can raise someone loyal ?
>>2291902Hilarious
>>2291959well Galvarino is an addtion to that as he is "Le epic wolverine native that killed spanish"
>>2291902Funny how people find this wrong but go balls deep in muh greek heritage muh turkish heritage muh roman empire remnants muh cowboys
>>2292359Individuals claiming any heritage is not the same as academia giving undue credit to random savages for political reasons
>>2292359We have multiple records on those.
