Thanks for not baking on page 7 this time.https://gofile.io/d/zAJ2RV - Full DV leak repository. Proposal, charts, maps.https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasLands - Leaked build footage. Nearly finished and scrapped Italy, very unfinished Germany/US reworks and more.https://space.bilibili.com/385529615/upload/opus - BiliBili leak video repository.https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png - Bormann TNO2 flowchart (never releasing).https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal. Read all about this hot new TCT mod.https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December 24 roundtable notes. Germany never.https://files.catbox.moe/zo5zhk.pdf - Post-Antarctica 25 roundtable notes.https://files.catbox.moe/9320n5.pdf - Japan rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/chzsvc.pdf - Japan Funada Design Doc.https://files.catbox.moe/beh76f.pdf - France proposal. Nearly 200 pages and fucked by DV.https://files.catbox.moe/omzl7q.png - France flowchart. Resistance is dead.https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden proposal. Dev seems to have finally stopped posting here.https://files.catbox.moe/ycctp0.png - Sweden flowchart. We lost Pakt Sweden for this OTL-fest.https://files.catbox.moe/egf8m0.pdf - Charlemagne Insurrection proposal. Cut.https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: A dev is made to justify why his own above proposal got cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov "facelift" document. The first leg in the now confirmed Komi rework.https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Over two years in dev hell, still no release date.https://files.catbox.moe/vdpi8k.pdf - Red Italy proposal. Rest in peace, you were too good for this mod.https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th (?) space race mech rework mockup.
>>2295368I made a neutral template version too if anyone wants to make fun of other things.https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Vote Pig Nixon tree.https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - VP Reuther tree.https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - VP Schlafly path. Peak evil Republican fascism let's go!https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - VP Yorty tree.https://files.catbox.moe/3v5h8h.pdf - Leaked Yorty Doc. Exactly what you'd expect from mango.https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP 2024 partial rework leak, Republicans weren't evil enough.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP 2025 events leak.https://files.catbox.moe/wc3nax.png - Hall flowchart. Go left-liberal or get a fail state.https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.https://files.catbox.moe/71ilh5.png - Central America design.https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - 200p wall of text about Colombian soccer mechanics.https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf - Iberian Wars rework document.https://files.catbox.moe/5anjuv.png - 5 new Caribbean nations flowcharthttps://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.https://files.catbox.moe/ptvdb1.pdf - Old Indonesia proposal.
>>2295368>>2295371>REWORK REVIEW>"Plankton's New Order: Last Days of Bikini Bottom" somehow completely overshadows all of TNO's releases this year (low bar).>French proposal and several US flowcharts leaked.>Leaks confirm that TNO leadership elections are suspended until Mango's hand-picked leads want them.>All of Latin America, the Caribbean, Iberia, Faroes, Iceland, Falklands and British Atlantic possessions said to have been added to the rework list.>Only 1/3 of TNO's designers and writers make their draconian quotas according to new RT leaks.>DV is not planned to release before Germany meaning that 2026 may be completely empty in terms of releases.>Coding for the reworked 1964 US presidents has only just begun.>Iberia facelift possibly releasing in Q1 next year. It actually seems fine!>Insider anon says that Iberia is the only tag being finalized for release but notes that it's been in that state for months.>Insider anon also says that Germany, USA, Manchuria Russia are in active dev but that neither is likely to see releases in 2026.>Rises Again is updating their Iranian CW and is honestly making more changes than I can list here.>We have so few news that I moved the leaked builds to the third post to make room for more USA and France leaks.>LEAKED BUILDSMaking sure these aren't lost again.2021: https://gitlab.com/IllyaTokar/git-days-of-europe2022: https://gitlab.com/retardedsolutions/git-days-of-europe/2023:https://mega.nz/file/bBFGHZJT#a4lNsnLLzHWHG1iic5yHwgL1kK1VAE5qmT2Iqi7k2EM - Hotline Manchukuohttps://mega.nz/file/TIMmVBKC#939MhfLfR3G0UQdenlK0R5AY54x8lGlnSs42H8BzHhw - Illusions Endhttps://mega.nz/file/SBtSmZAD#CDYh4s4SBz3GjvBSOjOpQ4RnGgaDhnq39ehNTVFzbhs - Penelopes Webhttps://mega.nz/file/CZt1CZwa#O0Yfzil-VqfJBwH_yuWvGkbDK5XF7DG5iM7rdO-rqdg - Germany Branchhttps://mega.nz/file/SJ0HjDrC#jeTd9dcOuCeNpAZvrM_tFJjaSKjWLhVpSibBVqj_eWg - Shifting Tides
It's been a bit. This is all sourced from the internet archive. TNO has basically stopped all growth as they have only grown by 5k in the past 4 months compared to TFR's 60k.
>>2295286No joke it it seems like an alright update. Iberia has been neglected for years and there's nothing about it that seems crazy. I don't think it'll turn things around but I think it'll go over like Requiem's South Africa update or TFR's Kaliningrad Animal update after it was patched: it's fine, a few anons play it and post their reviews and talk about it, but that's gonna be it. Still, nice to have a TNO update on the horizon that might actually release and be a country anyone actually wants to play. They really should've released the Antarctica update alongside it by the way if it really is close to releasing. Antarctica vibes better with this season than autumn and at least then those devs wouldn't have gotten shit on like they did becuase Germany never releases.
>>2295406>TNO has basically stopped all growth as they have only grown by 5k in the past 4 months compared to TFR's 60k.Grim. Even if TNO somehow ends up winning it'll be a Pyrrhic victory at best.
>>2295406This is like hecking Guangdong vs Manchuria mechanic!!
>>2295376>"Plankton's New Order: Last Days of Bikini Bottom" somehow completely overshadows all of TNO's releases this year (low bar)>it's real>Alex Yiik profile pic>posted here a long time ago about making a spongebob mod>I can't tell if this is genuine or pissing on TNO's corpse with that roadmap
>>2295412From what I've seen via leaks and the devs talking about it. Iberia will around an 8/10 update, 9/10 at best and 6/10 at worst. The problem is of 2 things. 1. Lots of Iberia's content will get fucked due to DV messing up Algeria, and the SAW to where a lot of time was spent for nothing. #2 which also includes CA with this is that it is really damning on the V&J team to not have this update close when they have by far a larger team than Iberia. Lamouiner im still shocked has not been sent to the gulags for his incompetnece. I will enjoy Iberia as it is some European content for the first time in almost 2 years and will congratulate the Iberia team for their work since they seem like the only team do be doing shit as of now.
>>2295531Both, probably. It's so funny lmao.
VP Full Flowchart: https://files.catbox.moe/xkpm9x.pngHawaii Crises: https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.pngGoldwater Tree: https://files.catbox.moe/r8c6i3.jpg Wallace Tree: https://files.catbox.moe/sl8afo.jpegUK Flowchart: https://files.catbox.moe/dn6eha.png
>>2295539yeah i think that like Brazil i will enjoy Iberia, the problem is that every time an update comes it just shows how TNO just dosent hold itself up anymore. cant make new tags, only reworks, cant make any meaningful progress happening, and every update is plaged by constant back and forwards.
>>2295582Merry Christmas to you, Leaker-anon!
>Leaks confirm that TNO leadership elections are suspended until Mango's hand-picked leads want them Just to play devils advocate leadership elections seem like a bad idea. It just seems like it would slow down development and intensify clique infighting.
>>2295759Were the old elections actual votes or just a deciding by consensus kind of deal?
>>2295759It would now, yes. The system has been completely destroyed by them abolishing them after Mango took over. The leak just confirms the depth of the rot.>>2295851They were simple majority votes from a list of candidates.
>>2295582So hilarious that Goldwater's path is all about him being le heckin evil anti-union anti-welfare guy that nukes Haiti.
What exactly is the difference between Goldwater and Reagan? Tno and otl
>>2296069Goldwater IRL is more of a hard libertarian (or at least campaigned as one) while Reagan ended up being the gold standard for conservatism until Trump reformed the GOP. It deserves to be mentioned that Reagan as we know him arguably wouldn't have happened without Goldwater's campaign and its influence on American conservatism. Both are pretty normal politicians all things considered with their own quirks and evolutions, but I won't get into them here. I'm sure some other anon has already started out writing about how Goldwater was shit because of his stance on the CRA or how the amnesty bill means that Reagan never stopped being a liberal. I say "normal" as in "they weren't insane". Goldwater was very unconventional for his time and infamously suffered one of the greatest electoral defeats in US history. Reagan, by contrast, can be said to have been one of the most successful US politicians of the 20th century. Neither were insane warmongers, and Reagan famously initiated détente with the USSR.In-game Goldwater is currently a pretty hard-right small government conservative that goes hard on socialism and organized labor while his updated version is a villain-of-the-week that nukes blacks for fun and turns all blacks into indentured servants or some shit. No, the image is not a meme. Although I guess recreational nukes is very ancap, it was never a stance Goldwater advocated for - thanks for that blunder, Mango. Reagan on the other hand has a full bio in the Vote Pig proposal, you can read that though I'm sure he's been reworked fifty times already since then.You can expand a lot on both I'm sure but this should be an OK primer.t. some schmuck Midwest normiecon.
>>2296085Mango giving us TND. Bless him, I hope we get to nuke the Congo as well.
>>2296112Mango's botched anti-Republican smear tactics once again becoming the only parts of the mod HOI4 players actually look forward to, ladies and gents.
>>2296116Why do you think people will only be hyped for imperial nixon? Because it is the only fun thing that will not be a commentary about how the dems are so good and the gop is so bad. Its just one man wanting to be king of america. Which will be kino
>>2296121100%. Fasist dictator Nixon is unironically the only thing in Selection Suidae that I actually care about. It'll be so based and every single preachy event about Nixon strangling black toddlers to death that the Mangooner crafted will only reinforce how based his route is.
>>2296128"Why do people only love imperial nixon?""What about my pages on pages about Sam Yorty!""What about showing that republicans are the real fascists!""What about all that time I spent on that GUI!" I want him to only be known for imperial nixon, I suggest everyone playing it and glazing imperial Nixon. Fuck the Yorty path, fuck the 29 other paths that are not Nixon. Let him define it, and make Mango cry about it.
>>2296141I'm pretty sure that's already been guaranteed since day one. Literally the only thing QPQ and Mango's ever done that's been received positively is making Nixon a based leader that wins all wars for America and keeps being re-elected over and over again.
>>2296156You think QPQ ropes after the flop. He seems like a massive fag to do it
>>2295406its possible that after a certain point, growth starts slowing down. Just like in real life.lets wait and see morre
>>2296085Yeah I saw the toozer. Unironically love it,the Haiti proxy is too complicated and I want to have a “fuck you die”option to it. Thanks for the paragraph.
>>2296160There is no way xhe does not.
>>2296204Same. It used to be that Huttig was the avatar of TND but now Goldwater will be. He's a Jew too so it even goes against their pretend-Palestinian LARPing by being a rare Jewish W.
>>2296209From what I heard Wallace can do it so we can get even more TND. Thank you Mango you've made everyone love the Haiti proxy in some way.
>>2296215Can confirm, Wallace can also do it. MFW:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vaB07Lc7Mc
>>2296085yes Goldwater is misrepresented, but at the same time the new goldwater is actually more interesting than the IRL one, so in the end i think this is a bonus. if i had any big criticism it would be that going so hard against socialism, in a world dominated by nazism, is weird for american foreign affairs.
>>2296390>TNO devs ignoring the entire premise of their mod to write political fanfictionI guess there's a first time for everything.
>>2296393a lot of TNO is like this, but it used to be for unknown figures so it didnt really matter. Sablin is like this for example
>>2296396Wrong, that's the opposite of what I was saying. A lot of Russian leaders have ahistorical traits but that's always explained in-universe by their entire society being destroyed in WW2. No, the person who Rurik II was irl never went mad and declared himself King after destroying his brain with vodka but I can accept it because his backstory explains it. He went mad because he was betrayed and the Red Army fell apart. It's extreme but I can suspend my disbelief and go along to the fiction.Meanwhile Goldwater does TND and tries to crush the reds solely because Republicans are le bad. Yes he's more interesting just like Rurik but how does that make sense, especially when they made America more stable and otlist in the rework?
>>2296399yeah i didnt understand your message prior you're right
You can actually pinpoint the moment TNO got taken over by these gaytheists on the commserver. Its when they stopped saying merry christmas and started posting "Muh trans rights" and " much fuck ICE". Sad!
>>2296202Or maybe TNO has flatlined because it's in dev hell
>>2296202Do you think reworking the entire mod from scratch and replacing their audience with one uninterested in playing HOI4 impacted their growth numbers?
>>2296528It's like asking people about the Armenian genocide. Most say it did happen but you will always have a couple of dumbasses saying no. Same thing here most say yes but those cocksuckers in the commserver will say everything is fine and that its a good thing when intergrating shit submods like DV.
>>2296516>>2296528>>2296563Yes I think those affected the mod and may have killed it but Im still accounting for the possibility there might be a growth ceiling for hoi 4 mods and etc. if the fire rises keeps growing fast after they surpass tno, then the tno team did indeed kill their mod
>>2297237We know that the ceiling is a lot higher than TNO's. Just look at Kaiserreich or MD.
>>2297393>looks at kaiserreich and md numbersoh, oh thats fucking grim
>>2297393This pretentious pretender could never hope to even breathe the same air as the true Kaiser of the Workshop let alone usurp His rightful throne.
Kazakh warlords are back on the menu
How much of a mangoite nudev fag is Big Weld? Havent seen more than his TND kino for tfo in a previous thread
>>2297928He's in their camp but not a total retard. By some accounts posted here he started to slip after DV. In the current context of TNO, consider him a reformer, maybe?God, what a bleak timeline where the hardcore ultrarealists of 2022 are the moderates of today. TNO is truly dead.
>>2297928Isn't that the guy that said TFR had zero Chinese devs.
>>2298072Yes, it is. Though tbf he hasn't been on the drama radar for quite a while I think.
>>2298067>By some accounts posted here he started to slip after DV.What a load of bullshit, he adjusted Africa setup in his mod to DV lore within weeks after the integration announcement, he's as retarded as all of them are
>>2298097Wrong and dumb. TFO was adjusted to DV years before it was made official. Weld bitched about them overstepping it though. Thus: Big Weld is like the reformist clique of an insurmountable political party.
>>2297393The humble RT56:
>>2298122I don't understand what this map (extremely outdated) is supposed to show, since everything presented in this Africa setup is bits of pre-DV lore, with Cameroon leading PALF and big-ass Congo Lake, for example. One thing different is EAW, which was a submod for TFO weld worked on before he became a lead lol.You can go to their comm server, open 'dev-diary' (lmao) channel and read, or at least look at the map, about setup adjustment in the diary with a title that is literally named after this fucking submod.
>>2297808Requiem on it's way to fix TNO's mistakes, so it seems. Does anyone know what their next update is about?
>>2298097DV is not even integrated besides the congo lake, thats literally the only not new piece of TNO africa in TFO
>>2298122Thats old, retard
>>2298202What about TRO how is that mod doing and is one of their leads another nufag?
>>2299625It's dead, Jim.
