Watcha>playan>listnan>unit favanFor me it's the RA allied campaign, TD's Depth Charge and I love the artillery, I just think it's neat.
>playingStellaris Console Edition>listeningI don't listen to music>fave unitFeet
I loved Red Alert so much as a kid.
>playanrescue hammerfest base>listnanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPTsD_Y8LXM>unit favanpic relatedit's summer 2002 again, right?
>>2296518>it's summer 2002 again, right?I got my first gf in summer '02. It ended in fall '02.
>>2296098Based
>>2296518While I like the OG CnC's setting, something about TS doesn't appeal to me, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
>>2298060that its 10/10 atmosphere is ruined by the 2/10 gameplay?
>>2298071What exactly makes the gameplay 2/10? The building modularity?
>>2298634Left-clicking to moveLiterally unplayable once you are used to modern RTS controls.
>>2298675That doesn't make any sense, as even RA2 still had left click to move
>>2298675>Left-clicking to moveNot an issue for anyone I knew, including some hardcore Warcraft 2 vets. What was an issue that it felt sluggish and somewhat simplistic after playing Starcraft, and a lot of concepts ended up looking better on paper (which is why RA2 had to streamline or outright abandon many of them).
Been replayan TW recently.Luv me Scorpion Tank spam. With one or two attack bikes to shoot down airniggas.
My negroes, I think Tempest Rising is delightful.
>>2298681The game is old, though. I believe Tib Wars is where this changed to right-clicking, but it's been so long I forget.
>>2299045Wasn't it Generals though? The entire game was so slavishly eager to adopt Blizzard RTS formula.
mental omega
>>2299783Shill me on it
>>2298060I still want C&C:TD redone in Company of Heroes engine. I don't think you could carry over everything one to one, but I think the various units having more permanence on the battlefield and being better defined would really help shape the game's combat better.Even something as basic as GDI having NATO-like squads of soldiers vs NOD having mercenaries and militants would help set the tone, not even mentioning what things would feel like with a combined arms force with a flame tank or mammoth right next them being backed up by Orca support.
So, I seem to be retarded:I started playing TD on OpenRA.Just some light skirmishes against Cabal AI (no fucking idea if that is a strong or weak one).When playing GDI, I basically dominate the battlefield.Sure, I might lose some dudes in the beginning, but I quickly push back and through.Now I tried NOD because I wanted to see what I can do with them, and as it turns out, I SUCK at NOD.Yesterday I had a 40 minute match with the very same AI that led to me getting obliterated in the end.Today I had another 40 minute match where I managed to verrrry slowly push forward, but it was a proper pyrrhic victory, as I actually lost more units.tl;dr: how do I into Nod?
>>2299783>>2299853im gonna fucking cum
Coming from modern control schemes, the "left click for everything" is really hard to get used to
>>2300638>tl;dr: how do I into Nod?The rocket troopers and trucks that turn into bunkers are a great way to overtime make a passive anti air defense and safe and defensive corridor.Venom spam is greasy but having 6 hot keyed will usually fuck up most infantry spam to the point you only lose one or two. You can, in the vast majority of times sneak them in and around behind then enemy base and hollow out a few buildings before their killed, this can be used to draw units home, but you will always lose them.The laser artillery is great, in groups of 3, but far enough away from eachother you have two groups of three. Hard to defend and lost easily, but if done right with micro its a game changer to have two sets.You want to get used to the tactic of sending engineers in transport to grab and recover walkers and then sending them back to your war factory., keep a few in plain sight behind the Frontline just chillin, AI always targets them first though. Late game this is a huge deciding factor in if you get crushed or they make you stronger.With GDI you do the same but heal them by the 2500 APC they have.Flame tank is OP, but expensive and easy to lose if you dont send them in after enemy units are already engaged.Sending a bunch on aggressive into a city after a diversion wave of attack bikes set to way point around the place (alt+click?) Is how you clear entrenched areas easily.
>>2300638Also with nod you have more AA options, but if you balance them correctly you have more resources for troops, versus the GDI expensive airforce and expensive dedicated AA unit.Having a "mix" of units is more important as NOD, yiu cant just APC rocket trooper + sniper spam and drop minefields on the path the AI takes.A few attack bikes and Iirc one of the upgrades gives a unit AA capabilities. If your doing the bunker trick, once they gain experience I usually send them to the home base and/or a static defense somewhere behind the front lines to act as a hail Mary AA that gets you on your way home.>effective with experienced AA infantry.Bomb the fuck out of their harvesters until you get gud. Then it's second nature.If you use an airforce make sure it's set to defend the area right before your units engage it, so that the timing of getting bombed is right before it enters your units range.Never keep air units at home, and always hotkey them in groups of 4, but set them out to defend individually and spaced out so your bombing run is random, resupply is random.I personally dont use the airforce for much except to scout and randomly bomb hidden areas of the map. Venoms are greasy when massed, but easily destroyed by rocket based splash damage to the point its not a viable tactic simply because they group up.Sending them in small groups to distract while ground troops move in is a good use for them. They are good for hunting harvesters that you see unguarded or in the first 30sec of them doing a base expansion.
I like using the Chronosphere to teleport enemy tanks into water.
>>2298071I enjoyed the gameplay though. Also the atmosphere is the best, can't be beat. EA taking over and killing off all the Tiberium flora for a gay bland desert should be enough for liquidation of the company.
>>2296518>playanCurrently stuck on ''Dogma Day Afternoon'' mission. The whole firestorm expansion is really fucking dark for some reason. Right of the bat we learn that GDI victory Tib Sun didn't mean shit. NOD is still there despite Kane's ''death'', Kodiak gets destroyed in a cutscene. Mcneil dies (In the Westwood canon, not the EA retcon) Chandra dies, Brink dies. Umagon turns insane, and Tratos gets assassinated three missions in.>listnanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvNKLwhzkK0&list=RDKvNKLwhzkK0&start_radio=1This one is fucking great, especially from 1:58 onward.>unit favanCyborg Commando. I allways loved to use him to obliterate every single GDI base on the map in ''Villianess In distress'' mission.>it's summer 2002 again, right?Oh god, why are you doing this to me?
>>2310292Man I wish newer C&C games still had that atmosphere. C&C 3 with Tiberian Sun's atmosphere would've been incredible.
>>2308989>Venoms are greasy That anon was talking about TD not TW
>>2296016I tried to play Warcraft III skirmishes against AI and came to the conclusion that I hate skirmishes in Warcraft III.I should've sticked to the campaigns.
>>2311197stuck*
>>2311197stuckhted* with*
bumpo
>>2309170I like using chronosphere to teleport enemy ships out of water.
I like using the chronosphere to transport enemy transporters anywhere
I like using the chronosphere to transport GIs
>>2312028You're lying!
>have fun making custom maps in the older games>AI's too dumb to play them to their fullest
>return to base immediately
>>2296016The campaign on hard depends 100% on luck and RNG instead of skill and it's insanely frustrating. Update: I have now completed all 81 missions on hard. It was SO BAD. Every mission was a WHAT WERE THEY THINKING moment. These are insane puzzles that require you to cheese and savescum like you have never cheesed and savescummed before. Awful AI and pathing, no build missions are pure torture because there's so much RNG and micro is almost impossible in this 1995 game. It was nonetheless pretty satisfying when you slowly figure out how to sandbag into the enemy's base and destroy them from within. Do not be ashamed of sandbagging, believe me the game deserves much worse abuse and I would cheese more if I could. Music is fine. I really like the atmosphere too. A side note is you should always play on fastest because normal speed causes the enemy air strike to be much less frequent and makes the game easier, or so I heard.When it comes to Red Alert, although a lot more people prefer this expansion, I find it much more boring than the base game. The puzzle element is no longer there. The pace is much faster. You can no longer chill behind the safety of sandbags, and now it's just tanks tanks tanks. The enemy can hoard army indefinitely and only attack with free spawns, and because of resource limit you can head into a dead end if you don't win fast enough. And again, tanks beat everything every game so it was just boring. The atmosphere is pretty boring too and I much prefer the original's sci and mystery element.
>>2312365Of course you couldn't micro on fastest dumbassSandbagging is also not required.Air strikes are already harder in the remaster too because the behaviour got fixed and will now target your most valuable assets instead of whatever you have closest to the top left corner.Instead of sandbag slop you should just break a section of their base and cap their construction yard and eco
Been playing Dawn of the Tiberium Age. Pretty fun but man, some of those missions are ball bustingly hard. Ashamed to say I had to cheat on a couple of them.>>2312365Yeah, hard mode has some stupid bullshit modifiers that make the enemy way stronger than you. The Remaster team didn't make any accommodation for this and it shows. Best to just play on normal, as was intended.
is this worth it? whats the best way to play cnc these days?
>>2312811For the campaigns, the CnCNet patches over the originals are the best. Protip: The First Decade can be found on archive.orgFor MP, it's probably OpenRA.
>>2312341Great shot
>playanHaven't played C&C in a while but thinking of trying Mental Omega>listnanMechanical Man's Revenge>unit favanThat's actually pretty hard question. Tanya from RA2?
>>2296016>playandawn of the tiberium age>listnanface the enemy 1>unit favanheavy tank>>2299853are you chinese? if yes, you'll love it.>>2312811its 6 euros bro, what do you have to lose?ra2, yr, tib sun are still played on cncnet. mp. openra if you want to play td, or ra1. the OG games, they're balanced like shit since theyre from 199*. tib sun too desu.
>>2298675i am still told to left click to move regularly though. What are you talking about?>>2312811There is shareware copies that are full games for CnC1 and Red Alert (maybe Tiberian Sun too?). So you could have, this entire time, sat down and tried a CnC game before paying for it.
Best mulitplayer RA2.Best singleplayer Tiberium sun.Fight me.
>>2315722>Best singleplayer Tiberium sun.Tibsun, my baby
>>2296016>picthis mission starts you off trying to break tanya out of jail right?
>>2320118Yeah, you only have the spy. Then you have to dismantle SAMs with Tanya to get your actual force. I hate that part on OG RA because you get discovered instantly and V2'd.
>>2296518Based choices.
>>2315970Bumpo
>>2315694>There is shareware copies that are full games for CnC1 and Red Alert (maybe Tiberian Sun too?).Freeware. Yes, all of those games are available legally free of charge now. It's great for modding since the mods can distribute the game and the mod as one package. EA should do the same for RA2 as RA2 mods are annoying to get going.
>>2300436The CoH formula is fantastic, but almost non-existant unfortunately. Stuff like MoW gets lost in the weeds, and stuff like Iron Harvest is too abstract for satisfying tactical gameplay.
>>2321816>ticket based>fantasticlol, lmao
>>2321816>The CoH formula is fantastic>stuff like Iron Harvest is too abstract
>>2311197stoughckted* at*
>>2321853NTA, but it's really not. CoH for example has functional vehicles that has at least some synergy with the infantry mechanics, Iron Harvest has mechs with barely any functionality that do not synergize at all with infantry. And somehow mechs are the selling point.
broken ai award
>>2321992Proof that skill issue is a genetic defect, and back into stall you shall mongoloid trog >>2321993
>>2321983what do you mean? Some mechs can garrison infantry, some mechs spam bombs/artillery to clear areas for infantry, some mechs destroy walls and buildings to make way for infantry. Sure they don't exactly provide mobile cover for infantry but that's because they're on legs up in the air, the games are functionally the same down to capturing flag points on the map for score victory
>>2312811The remaster of C&C1 and RA1 really improved the skirmish AI and are worth it if you're into the series
>>2296016>playannothin>listnannothin>unit favanprism tank, build a dozen and slowly advance them, they'll wipe out anything that isn't airborne or far out at sea
I have played CC1 and RA1 recently, had some fun and started Tiberian Sun but the GDI campaign is such a dogshit miserable experience. Half of the missions are some stealth bullshit. Maps are enormous but unit sight range is 10cm. 30m timers that last only 10min. Artillery everywhere that can snipe you from across the map and invisble enemy bases. Now I'm at Destroy Prototype Facility mission but air units just come to rape my units and I can do nothing about this.
>>2323645I think many of the stealth missions are optional, but yes, they're bullshit if you expect to complete them on the first try even if you know how the mission goes.>air units just come to rape my units and I can do nothing about thisI'm a hover MLRS enjoyer. Honestly I feel like they're really slept on. The mobility is great for micro and many missions are designed so that water is the enemy's weakness.The missions I dislike are the ones where Nod has a missile silo as super weapons can make the ground unbuildable if you don't make a concrete foundation.
>>2323769Just finished GDI campaign. Played only for the story but in the end I barely understood it because of the bad audio and lack of subtitles. It was also such a pain in the ass searching for every unit and having to destroy every building, even the electric fences, for missions to end. At least in previous games when the AI couldn't do anything anymore it sold everything and rushed your base so it was easier to clean up.
>>2322590>they'll wipe out anythingLol? A couple of grizzly's Rhinno's would mop the floor with them.>Now I'm at Destroy Prototype Facility mission but air units just come to rape my units and I can do nothing about this.Let me guess. NOD Harpys just murder the fuck out of Umagon as soon as you get close to the main enemy base? The best strat is to capture the sub-terrain APC stationed in a small nod outpost, and then fleeing in it as soon as you discover the prototype facility (You will have to use your regular Mutant troopers as cannon fodder to reveal Banshee fighters). Hope this helps.
>>2323769>The missions I dislike are the ones where Nod has a missile silo as super weapons can make the ground unbuildable if you don't make a concrete foundationSooo... only a final mission. Because in other 2 missions with super weapons NOD only has a chemical missile.
>>2323645Westwood never really "figured out" level design. It's like they were just philosophically opposed to anything besides you having one base vs one enemy base with a couple token outposts. Hope you can get in before you run out of resources! It took till Yuri's Revenge to really get experimental with things, but even then they just locked down every base with Gatling Guns and Psychic Towers.
>>2325321look at the baby that couldn't figure out unit only missions
>>2325323That's not what I'm talking about.
>>2325321>Westwood never really "figured out" level designThe hell are you even on about? There was nothing to ''figure out'' because it was them who created this fucking genre. It was westwood who set the rules.>Hope you can get in before you run out of resources!The only westwood game where this is the problem is Dune II. Every next RTS game has revavable resources. Funny thing is, that Blizzard copied Spice patches from Dune II and turned them into goldmines in Wc1. They then stuck to the ''non-renevable resources'' formula to the end, with fucking Warcraft III.
Great. Now I can't finish some dogshit Firestorm mission cause either it glitched or I can't find the last unit. Are there any cheats to force a win?
>>2326989>some dogshit Firestorm missionWhat mission?
>>2327719Bumpo
Currently playing through RA2 Allied campaign, something which I have never done before.I have reached now what seems to be the last mission, and after Washington the game seems to have become a lot easier.Usually there's one bigger onslaught at the start, and after that you're basically free to build up and blob into the enemy bases.Also, air units are fucking useless with the range on the soviet AA
>>2312220Is that Seton's Clutch? kek
>>2328964No, that's a remake of a map from Red Alert 3.
>>2327719nta but it could be any, a single laser fence post or a SAM site could hold back winning the mission, also there's one mission where there's a stealth power plant base in the corner of the map that's easy to missthat's just how westwood made these mission, it's highly unlikely the mission glitched out
>>2328945>>Also, air units are fucking useless with the range on the soviet AAI wonder if this is because of how OP air was in Tiberian Sun. An overcorrection of sorts
>>2328945>air units are fucking useless with the range on the soviet AAjust split your units and also overwhelm the AA. Flak just hits instantly, missiles have to reach their destination and that's why you have this feeling
>>2329174I play allies, not soviets.
>>2329195that's what I said. Split your harriers when you launch them. Don't send them bunched up together against soviet AA
>>2329217I just tried making a soviet meatwave joke ;_;
enguhneeringaffurmuhtative
Is it possible to get rid of that terrible screen tearing in RA2? I've appplied CnCNet5 patch, tried different renderes but it's all crap.
>>2330257Try the latest cnc-ddraw: https://github.com/FunkyFr3sh/cnc-ddraw/releasesThere is a vsync option but I would only recommend it as the last resort as it adds quite a bit of input lag. I'd try maxfps, windowed, and swapping between opengl/directx first. I have the vsync off and no tearing so something else is applying it.
>playanX-COM UFO Defense>listnanhttps://youtu.be/SbeF4FZiolc?si=6QKR5N9mz44Wk8D6>unit favanpicrel
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5cb8811d5239585cb782f0e0/5ce6de5ceef1a1421222ecbc/5ce9e54ce4966b600dc6ef9c/1558832987273/06+Killing+Machine.mp3For me, it will always be the undefeated Mammoth Tank
>>2296518BAAAAAASEEEEEDhttps://youtu.be/IBp0Pu3NeOo?si=HbPbhK4v_p-DJDa7https://youtu.be/4IB79iNCeb0?si=-grfLTYbSZEKDd-d
>>2332333>gifThis is a reshade meant for a specific mod, right?
I just discovered https://github.com/TheAssemblyArmada/Vanilla-ConquerIt's a sourceport for the original games, but unlike OpenRA, which is more of a modding and MP framework by now.Has anyone used it and can give an assessment?
>>2330066rrngrneerrngbobblehead
>>2333865Good for playing the original campaign of C&C1 and RA1. It doesn't support mods or custom campaigns like the original games.
>>2334065Is there any reason I should use it over the CnCNet versions?
>>2296098this nigga soulless
>>2296016>playanRA3 Ressurection Mod 1.48 - a few days ago, it's finally eng patched>listnan / watchanPic related, I'm just taken aback with this cutscene from act of war high treason, very peculiar to show the feet of the officers from task force talon. I do wish that game has rate-limited infinite resources like in cnc, games like that pic related and starcraft leaves a bad sight for my eyes because the resources are limited, but that's just me.>unit favanyuriko for ra3>>2296098>Feetlol
Painful start but got through it. Those hidden buildings in the corner were annoying.
>we need a faction for fucking retards
How do you play the campaigns?>Start and finish a factions story>Play a level and switch to another faction.
>>2349096What kind of psychopath does the second one?
>>2349096Having only played the original RA, I would not have even recognized your screenshot as the same series, were it not for the filename
>>2349096The AI's pretty intense. I thought I could amass resources and have infantry as my inexpensive safety net>>2349097>What kind of psychopath does the second one?I did that a bit during Tiberian Wars, since all three of the factions are quite canon for Twilight. GDI had their pyrrhic victory, Nod had their ideological (strategic?) victory, and the Scrin had their mining defeat.
RA1's structure capture logic - secretly genius or just plain retarded?
>>2355250Elaborate
>>2355400people don't do that on 4chan
>>2355400You have to damage a structure to 20% HP to capture it. Otherwise, engineers just suicide into the structure and deal damage. It's terrible because you can't do hail mary rushes into the enemy base with an APC and level their conyard, barracks, and refinery.
>>2355250overnerfed like retard devs often do
I tried playing CnCNet Red Alert 2 through Wine but every client update would break it, forcing me to juggle different exes to be able to launch it.
HELP I'M A MECHANICAL MAN AND I'M ABOUT TO GET FUCKED BY THE OIL PRICES
>>2355902>CnCNetYou need to use Proton-GE with it. It's heavily dependent in Microsoft stuff and Proton-GE has all that preinstalled.
Yuri... is dead...
>>2349096Now I wonder how they're able to integrate that Tiberium field system in RA3 in the same vein (heh) as the ore fields in RA2 modded zero hour, yeah...
>>2296016>playanRA3 World in Conflict Mod 2.91D [EN] pic related>listnanTo battle annoucements from EVA>unit favanThat german artillery vehicle
I'm on the final GDI mission of Tiberian Dawn. It's so exhausting. Nod keeps spamming turrets in spots he shouldn't be allowed to build, and the chokepoints right into an obelisk of light just decimate my troops. Even trying an engineer rush to capture enemy buildings isn't helping because they just rebuild them right away.
Is there a mission select mod that works for the CnCNet version of Tiberian Sun? Switching over to Vinifera Beta apparently corrupted all my savesAlternatively, does anyone have a savefile for Nod9B: Protect The Waste Convoys? Either for the Live version or Vinifera
>>2358505You might be able to just edit Battle.ini to start with that mission. Change nod1a.map to nod9b.map in that file and start the campaign.
>>2358588I just switched over to the Steam version which is compatible with the mission select mod, I'll manage without the QoLEven then, I got booted back to mission 2 after, which apparently happens for ini edits as well so I'm gonna avoid the hassle of doing that over and overSurprised that for all the QoL in CnCNet there isn't just mission select built in, would be super handy
>>2358596>Surprised that for all the QoL in CnCNet there isn't just mission select built in, would be super handyYeah, it's something that's possible too, it's used in Tiberian Sun mods that use the same client but the base game doesn't have it.
>playanFirestorm - I've been putting off the Core of the Problem missions for a long time but I might have an idea of how to beat the Nod one. Otherwise, I've been trying to play the missions for TibDawn and Red Alert in the Remaster but I'm having my doubts about it despite getting pretty far.Installed TibDawn using Nyerguds update or whatnot with the only hiccup being FMVs getting bugged occassionaly.>listnanNothing right now, I need to sleep.Rather like some of the Remastered tracks though.>unit favanTough one that is, I'll say Colonel Burton for now because he seems like the best rendition of commando in terms of his abilities. But talking commandos, I also like Boris because he's got some nice range with his laser designator.Haven't posted on /vst/ in a long time, funny new captcha system, also finished the China campaign for Zero Hour.
I have been making my way through the games. Played the westwood games and had a lot of fun. Now I'm trying to play Tiberium Wars but it's somehow really boring. The missions feels short, and maps are small too.
>>2360224>Installed TibDawn using Nyerguds update or whatnot with the only hiccup being FMVs getting bugged occassionaly.This is unfortunately normal. I suggest trying out Vanilla Conquer instead, it's a version that's compiled for modern OS's.
this fucking sucks
>>2311933I like using chronosphere to teleport an MCV into the enemies base with a queued up prism tower ready to slap down. Then I just start spamming defensive structures in the middle of their base.
>>2360728TibWars & Kane's Wrath stray quite far from the classic C&C style so it's understandable to not be into it early on. It's a game that might grow on you over time, both Kane's antics and the Scrin invasion is what makes it shine to me.
>>2361544>TibWars & Kane's Wrath stray quite far from the classic C&C styleDid they fix the harvester collecting 1200 credits instead of 2400?
>>2296016>playankane's wrath resonance mod>listnancnc thang>unit favancrawlersSharing mod guide:>1, applying the 4GB patch to both the retailexe .dats of 1.2 and 1.3 (according the the "Kane's Wrath 4GB Patcher Setup, every time I delete and redownload the .dat files, I can only patch the 1.3 and worldbuilder.exes, I then used the 4gb patcher from NTCore to patch the 1.2 dat)>2, installing the community patch, 4K Add-On Standard version>3, set medium graphics settings in the unmodded kane's wrath>4, added a "Mods" folder, included the "Resonance" folder with the renamed "config.txt" on its .skudef (I left the .Big files alone)>5, added in the "CNC3EP1_english_1.2.SkuDef" the line: "add-config Mods\Resonance\config.txt" in the first, topmost line>6, used steam > general > selected launch option "-win -xres 1440 -yres 900 -ui -runver 1.2"
>>2310292Dogma Day Afternoon is the best and most memorable mission IMO. That emerging alien atmosphere was completely lost in later games.
Wished the resonance mod worked in the vanilla tibwars, since it only uses three original factions. Surprised to see that the scrin here have no particular crawlers of their own, but if borrowing queues from those habitat or science or assembly walkers from The Hierarchy of Universe at War, it would be quite balanced. Haha! Anyways...>playankane's wrath mod alien prophecies (campaign is unplayable in certain missions, especially regarding their almost unbeatable steel talon colossus, that thing's like a Titan but with guns, cannons, and missiles, which makes swarming them with rocket squads, attack bikes, and even venoms a herculean feat in itself.)>listnanThis "iron summoner" donghua, fella awakened a hammer that can summon cybernetic troops, tanks, helos, jets, and artillery. Crazy stuff.>unit favansupport crawler for air superiority as usual.
>>2364243>Dogma Day Afternoon is the ... most memorable missionSo true. IIRC it was the mission that got me into Tiberian Sun. I had played Red Alert before but it felt very arcadey compared to TS. TS was a spectacle and something more serious.
>>2296016Replayan Tiberian Sun after probably 10 years, so far haven't been filtered except in the mission to destroy Vega's base (did not expect a subterranean APC engi rush to take my conyard right at the beginning).Then I'm going to replay C&C3 for the first time since it came out nearly 20 years ago, then play Kane's Wrath and RA3 (never played either). Then I'm going to replay C&C Generals/ZH and by then it will be a good time to replay the original C&C and RA.The only C&C I will never replay is C&C4.
>>2358291>He
>>2369981NOD = KANE
>>2369985>Assuming Kanes gender
>>2369993Does Kane look like a bitch?
>>2323974mental omega fixes all of your problems
Having a good time going through this campaign.
>>2370638Care to elaborate some more? Is this the mod that has all CnC units?Is it made for Mental Omega trannies or can normal casuls have fun too?
Finally tried mental omega for the first time after mostly ignoring the shitposting around it for years. I was trying to get some comfy SP team skirmishes going but my team was getting hammered by a never-ending tide of units and I didn't understand why.Today I tried to 1v1 the medium AI and after raping its harvesters on the opening with terror drones and tesla troopers I realized the AI just has some sort of infinite money cheat on as it keeps building unit after unit, rebuilding turrets, power plants, 3 battle labs, all while having no income.lol, this is what all that shitposting was all about? I'm not that impressed.
>>2370880Yes, the skirmish AI cheats a lot. If you want the best of C&C skirmish AI look into Dawn of the Tiberium Age
>playan Went to Sarajevo to look 4 Temple Prime, didn't find it, but found the Sonic bridge >listanan GLA ost >unit favan Tesla tank
>>2371096just turtle and spam eco>>2370880Get filtered, faggot
>>2371177lol, this is the first time I got filtered by being too good at a game
>>2371116Man you just have to love these places where across the river or street it's like a completely different place
>>2371352I mean, the left bank has the embassy district, while the right bank is just a regular district
>>2371116Reminds me of a picture I took in Glasgow
Kid me is thinking GDI superior through might makes right. Adult me is NOD guerrilla tactics are OP
I started playing C&C3 last week. I'm actually really getting into it. I used to struggle a lot to get into 3D RTS games but it hooked me. It helps that I like a >plot in videogames.In C&C I used to only like Red Alert but its swung the other way, I really like the Tiberium series. I played a little bit of the first C&C back in the 90s but it was Red Alert that hooked me to the series. So I didn't actually complete Tiberian Dawn until 2021, after which I played Tiberian Sun but then I put off playing Tiberian Wars until recently.I tried RA3 first last week but it wasn't hooking me.
>>2370872>Care to elaborate some more? Is this the mod that has all CnC units?Yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1Gmwz3of-c>Is it made for Mental Omega trannies or can normal casuls have fun too?It's a good half-way point. I'm finding the easy difficulty to be a nice casual challenge. The most annoying missions are the no-base ones, as-usual.
>>2372282Also, their "Drill" remix kicks asshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNDD-OdWf1A
>foehn revolti have literally never cringed more at a mod
>>2372296
>>2371682wow, bongland really is eastern europe condensed into an island
>>2372293rise of the reds pretending Russia is a threat is more cringy
>>2371837I think the red alert series is wackier and cheesy ever since their Yuri bit (comically evil) as the allies feel just a humbly as they were from RA2 to RA3. Tiberium, especially Sun, Wars, and Twilight got mad serious especially when the GDI guys seem mad serious all the time. I'd like the inOps of Tiberium Wars, but the modding capabilities of RA3, (especially playing its world in conflict mod, like building your own faction unique oil derrick and bunker) makes RA3 easy fun.
>>2372841I mean until 22 it was a staple in many, many other works of fiction.Not that you would know, lil zoomie.
>>2373033>>>/z/igger
>>2373033China is stronger than your shithole
>>2373261>>2373290You are both illiterate fucking niggers holy shit how retarded can you possibly be
>>2360224>Installed TibDawn using Nyerguds updateAaannnnd what's that exactly? How does that differ from the remaster version?
>>2349301>Pic related Now I'd to see that on a titan or juggernaut lol lovely main battle walker and artillery walker respectively.
>>2373296he's just a hohol, don't mind him
>>2357745>>2372904Cool. Getting that faction-available and buildable oil derricks are the best. Makes most missions easy. By the by, been replaying the tokyo mission from the soviets, love using the reserve tactics because of pic related - the mod tank, the panther, and the artillery halftrack (unlocked allegedly via super reactor, battle lab, and VIP bunker respectively) and it definitely outguns many of the imperial units. So nice.
>>2371837>I started playing C&C3 last weekIs the harvester glitch still a problem?
>>2370169only if it has>multiple build queues>spammable bunkers>spammable secondary resource units/structures>spammable superweaponsLike pic related, lol - would love a GATE Jiteai mod for command and conquer if it exists
>>2371837I'm glad for your autism or sorry it happened.
A modded cnc with metal slug factions would be nice, since there's the rebel army, the syndicate, and that peregrine faction. Kinda sad to find an actual mod for generals zero hour with pic related.
>>2374139>it's 40 minutes into a game and a China player is spamming dozens of these per minute from 20 barracks all over the mapwhat do you do?
TellmeHow to use TD Artillery effectively? what the fuck where they thinking with this noodle ass piece of shit.
>>2375169They're anti inf/building but once you get the flame tank there's little reason to use them.
>>2375154Antrax Bomb 'em, yep. Otherwise, infantry-clearing units like the dragon tank, microwave tank, toxin tractor. Was able to scale the economy by hacker spam, lol.
>>2375541Wish I had played this instead of Empire Earth back then.
>>2296016C&C 3 and KW are the best RTS ever made
>>2296016playan RA2YR Soviet Mission 6
>>2373359is the chinky looking guy between stalin and hitler hirohito?
>>2296016>playanRed Alert 3>listananBlack Magick SS - Scarlet Desires album(Super Samurai goes insanely well with the Japanese faction holy shit)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rd8eSrsMdY>unit favanMammoth/Apocalypse Tank. You can't go wrong with twin barrels. Give me back my missiles launchers in 3 damn you
>>2298945But the Veti aren't capturable... Wished they were in the campaign. They're like an evil Masari from Universe at War.
>>2296016Playing >>2374139 pic related, the MBTs of the USA, Russia, and China can attack aircraft, so that's cool for that monster flexibility.>>2375958I played both, but wished there was a high-res playthrough of all the ages, I do remember of a nifty scifi faction called that novorussiya, also liked their airfield just autolaunching those planes for them bombing runs.
>Light tank>As long as it is in motion, all AP damage from Medium and Mammoths is cut by 90%.We solved this fire control problem decades ago, fuck even before the gulf fucking war.
surprised to see a zombie mod in zero hour>>2374821>metal slugyeah they're neat ever since that metal slug defense / attack / attack reloaded bit that series is rich with units and factions. Hoping to see some interesting cnc mods that use other IPs, aside from star wars, think I saw a wh40k mod, but that is mad hard to find, even from both mod db and that red 2 net korea site, wew. >>2379891are there any cnc games that feature units firing on the move? I can only think of that fireports feature from the generals like the assault troop crawler / assault helix / humvee / combat chinook / battle bus as of late
>Empire EarthWE'RE UNDER ATTACK
>>2373514So much overpowered units here. No wonder it takes a lot of dollars and tiered buildings to unlock those op units. Pic related, this AC-130 is crazy for firing while on the move, and engaging air units. $12000 and 2:00 to build? Intense.
What other notable mods are there for RA3 and Generals Zero Hour?
>>2296016For me, it's back to playing the allied Havana mission again. Love stealing Soviet tech and using them to simply steamroll the stadiums
>>2381874Nproject is basically what zero hour should have been from the start. >makes maps look slightly better>maps that were removed from the final game>boss general included by default>has small amount of new units
>>2296016>>2349096I like the EU units in that mod. Also to answer that question, finish the factions story, and it looks like by playing that WIC 2.91D EN, Soviets easier than Allies easier than the Imperial Japan.
>>2373359
>>2382943Sounds nice looks quite "vanilla" for me. >t. Played VGO (easy is hard wth lol), Light of Five Stars (if China built that massive nuclear power station, shit explodes like Contra General Tao's Hadron Collider, lol) pretty much
>>2296016I regret the time I played theae games back when I was a teen in the 00's. Always had a dystopian vibe to them and the lack of economy with units just spawning from a tiny building kills all immersion
>>2379891would those same light tanks be op if they can fire on the move? So said light tanks have a chance against the mediums and the mammoths?
>>2376839lol yep he looks like it>>2378961What's with the Veti's MCV mechanics? I really thought they would use a flying MCV for their Resurrection Gateway, not this permasplit type kinda evo with the Dominance Anchor.>>2383743Why is Hirohito looking low energy in this version? Also if that ad were made today, still the same lineup?
>>2384712>with units just spawning from a tiny buildingUnlike other RTS where they spawn from a big building?
>>2373770what was the harvester glitch about? heard the latest patch did some blanket changes also affecting the campaign, like:>reduced credits>cranes not being able to build advanced base defenseThat sort of stuff. Does suck, lol.
>>2362212What the heck. Hate how modding used to be so effort intensive when installing them. Gotta love the simplicity of mod launchers that were available for CNC3 and RA3 (I think of that resurrection mod launcher), but KW and Uprising surprisingly doesn't have easier mod launchers. Freaking AVs or Endpoint Securities (which are a bitch to go through blocklisting/safelisting or even switching off) making at least command post (for KW) kinda impossible to install, oof...
>>2384874I think he means how they miss a lot when moving. Kind of applies to the other tanks but they move slower and usually still get nicked.
>>2384874>Doing what's right>runs over civilian
>>2385687Oh right, of course a direct hit's ideal. Thought the lighter and faster the unit, the better they are at firing on the move. I think that the medium and mammoth has longer reload and firing time compared to other ground units.>>2385688There's rarely civilians in skirmish maps, and when building on top of civilian vehicles, moderately surprised how they move out of the way for the building to be built. They strangely stay in place when a tank rolls over them, though.
>>2384960I'd like to think that bigger buildings have more armor values and can produce more or batches of units than the smaller ones, whether it's a barracks, war factory, airfield, and naval yard. Realism does look nice, helps with the immersion, but have strong units and buildings are real cool.
>>2383515>Resurrection modHow did they managed to import the tiberium mineral field in RA3? I feel the eco gathering is quite mighty superior there than the ore mines. At least using 3+ collectors does make the economy grow mighty quickly.
>>2387100Secondary resource units/buildings are still the best way to kill the ai. Just turtle until you are gaining money faster than you can spend it. As long as he doesn't have anything like artillery or superweapons to break a stalemate they can't do anything
>>2387103>Secondary resource units / structuresYep. That gameplay advantage there makes turtling and steamrolling easy.>Earning more than spending In personal skirmishes, I always thought that it would be better to have around 20k credits or lower so that each barracks / war factory / air field / naval yard / MCV constructing power or base defenses means the eco is used efficiently. I think there has been only one mod that incorporates that All campaign relevant factions having:>bunkers (apparently garrison clearable)>secondary economy support structures after building the refinery (or earlier, lol)>spammable super unitsQuite surprised the AI of that mod is effectively gatekept from using those subfaction special units and structures in gameplay, especially when they have better eco + combined arms manuevers later in game. Also, they have better luck in the unit crate pickups, some unbuildable units with seemingly half map range and are a bitch to kill is way dangerous than being able to spam second eco and turtle till able to steamroll in skirmish sessions like it
>kirovs nerfed from ra2 to ra3the twinblade + bullfrog duo is preferrable, since apocs lost their aa capabilities, yikes.
>>2387654That's the World in Conflict mod in RA3, it's cool to see those features also compatible with the soviet allied and imperial campaigns. secondary evo and bunkers that can store 10 infantry is really overpowered.
>>2299853"what if we turned C&C units into rock paper scissors"
uuugh it have to play the expansion missions of both C&C 1 and RA 1 but holy shit I hate singleplayer in those games
>>2391663mean westwood doesn't figureout know how to make a proper campaign until RA2
>>2299853Libra cute and opYunru cuteMorales badassSimple>>2391659>Stone sheet clippers cnc unitsSo is it like:Air beats Arty / Anti Ground beats AA beats Air? Also, capital ships beat frigates / anti subs beat Corvettes / subs beat capital ships?
>never had any major issues playing all the old C&C games as a kid (except that one commando mission in C&C where I didn't know what to do)>replaying them again decades later>get stuck on several missions and have to restart several timesFuck defending the Kodiak. These old bones can't handle it.
>>2392027Probably the hardest mission in the game. The last time I played I imposed a challenge on myself to not use Titans and this mission was the most difficult one. Titans solve everything.
>>2391671Until Firestorm, RA2 and YR are quite barebones when it comes to scripting and player interactions with things placed on campaign maps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-rVenXdW3g
>>2392354To quote the meme, "cursed". Also >MirceaOfRiviaNothing he starts ever gets finished.
>>2392039>The last time I played I imposed a challenge on myself to not use Titans and this mission was the most difficult one.I remember handicapping myself in Soviet missions in RA1/2 by limiting myself infantry and conscript rushes.
>>2392354>>2392703>"Gonna be very honest, IonShock, released 2 years ago, nobody cared cuz it wasn't free, apparently my work is not worth 3 usd, so project died after 2 years of sacrifices. Made Retro Generals, same result, nobody cared my 3d artist and the coder moved on to other stuff, I finished with what I had. Made Brutal Yuri, loved it, everyone else yawn... if its not free we do not care. So I decided since I'm not making anything and no one cares... I'll make somethin wild just for fun, see where that takes me. Truth is, it looks like if I'm not that talented for people to spend 3 bucks, why should I finish anything, I'm making things how I like them and if others like them too great if not, oh well. I'm just having fun with AI and making crazy stuff."lmao.
>>2393132>if I'm not that talented for people to spend 3 bucksthen make a game and not a modmods are free
>>2392354Can’t even tell if those are AI generated assets or simply stolen anymore, you can take gypsy out of Romania but not Romania out of Gypsy
>>2393510>you can take gypsy out of Romania but not Romania out of GypsyThat doesn't make sense, gypsies are the same everywhere and not all of them come from Romania.
>>2393575This one specifically is Romanian, but larped as Lithuanian until he outed himself
we got the rockets.
>>2393758I like the comfy hoodie militants in TibWars, EA were cowards for changing them in the expansion
>>2395912Yes, the fact that regular nod infantry in what looks to be combat armor still have the same stats as militia is pretty silly.
>>2395912Doesn't the expansion represent a different time period?
>>2392309It’s more like they scripted things that nobody would care about or barely affected the mission. Fucking Tib Sun side quests leave me forever salty with the way they imply you get extra units or something in the next mission, just for the train carrying the units to derail and they all die.
>>2395997Yeah, three of them>right after Firestorm (militants may still have some better shit for personal protection from the last war)>mid-TibWars (should be hooded thugs)>a good bit after TibWars (would make sense because Nod got some tech developed but also irrelevant because cyborgs)
>>2296518>rescue hammerfest baseThat map was really memorable.>>2310292>GDI victory Tib Sun didn't mean shit.Good guy wins usually mean nothing changed other than the bad guy not winning.>NOD is still there despite Kane's ''death'',Not the first time it happened, not the last either.>Kodiak gets destroyed in a cutscene. everyone dies or goes insaneYeah that kind of sucks but they probably couldn't get the actors to reprise their roles, and it's a war on an apocalyptic planet so people dying kind of happens.Don't forget even C&C3 starts with Nod nuking the Philadelphia and entire GDI high command, leaving you with Michael Ironside and Lando Calrissian fighting over command.
>>2325321>Westwood never really "figured out" level design.holy fuck no, if there's anything every Westwood C&C game excelled at, it was single player level design. Every time the mission was difficult, there was a catch, like some hidden crate to help you, or some part of the map where you can fight with relative impunity, or a side quest to give you extra units. Like the first mission in Yuri's Revenge with soviets where you could recruit Rexy and bring him back to the present.Most commonly, enemy bases have a weak point like a back door you can get into via troop transports, or a direction where they hold crucial infrastructure (power plants) you can take out first to nix enemy turrets making the attack easier.Which is, you know, something you have to figure out in a STRATEGY GAME. They are not modern garbage titles where you can just do a frontal assault and be expected to win.
>>2329069>there's a stealth power plant base in the corner of the map that's easy to miss>that's just how westwood made these mission, it's highly unlikely the mission glitched outIt also makes sense because Nods chief strength is stealth, so you really, really should get those mobile sensor arrays.in other words: skill issue.
What is your favourite Nod faction?
>>2396389>Good guy wins usually mean nothing changed other than the bad guy not winning.True, Tiberium still pretty fucked up the world after 3. It feels like all factions achieved victory in their own way, like that global conquest mode in Kane's Wrath, namely:>GDI defeating most of Nod>Nod eliminates almost all of GDI High Command and can acquire ascension via the Scrin Tower>Scrin Wins because they still look forward to harvesting ichor in a sequel that will never comeSomething about having a military, or a technology or an economic victory, and having that instead of a clear total win or lose for the good guy faction vs the bad guy faction vs the space fleas from outer space
>>2392027I've had the opposite happen. I found myself save scumming less because I stopped being stupid.
>>2397797In that case, do you always seem to replay particular missions multiple times because it's cool? I do that when there's a certain technology level that's locked, like the support superweapon and the superweapon (especially when the max tech tier is unlocking the Battle Lab) much like that:>China 2 in Generals Zero Hour>GDI Croatia in TibWars>Havana in RA3I wonder what are the other missions like it?
>>2396394Replay Tib Dawn and Red Alert 1 and say that with a straight face. Tiberian Sun has token backdoor entrances, but they are still ultimately just 1v1 matches or dogshit no-build commando missions.I don't think you face multiple factions in a single level (besides Dune II) until the second to last level of Soviet Red Alert 2.
>>2398825>Replay Tib Dawn and Red Alert 1 and say that with a straight face.I did, on hard mode, when the remasters came out. Even the stupidest missions in Tib Dawn had some trick to it. There were either hidden crates to help you out, or the enemy base had exposed power plants, silos, or a chokepoint you could put lasers to. Commando missions allowed you to lure enemies away to either bypass them or cheese them (TD had a Nod mission where your path was blocked by mammoths, you could just lure them off the bridge they guarded and circle around). Red Alert 1 was straight up easy afterwards.>but they are still ultimately just 1v1 matchesYeah, here's the average Nod mission in TD: you start with 2 rocket troops and 1 infantry, you have to kill 2-3 tanks and 5-6 enemy infantry (grenadiers mostly) to make it to an abandoned base. When you reactivate that, a signal flare shows up and a troop transport helicopter lands. You have 0 money so you have to sell the MCV to be able to build two engineers. Load them to the transport, cross the river (blind) to reach a GDI base protected by rocket troops and take it over with the engineers. Then either do a 1v1 fight vs the other GDI base, or use the troop transport (if it survived) to enter from an unprotected angle and sneak engineers in; making the mission far easier since the AI now can't rebuild buildings (or you can start turret camping their barracks).Or there's my favourite where you have to sneak into a GDI base, cap an orca helipad, and destroy a civilian village with it over the river (avoiding the rocket gunboat), but that's an optional mission.>or dogshit no-build commando missions.Those are the best, especially in Tib Sun and RA2 where you can promote units. Often you also get bonus units midway through as well, or get limited base production, or straight up capture a full base.I think you just have a skill issue.
>can't turtle or play defensively>can't spam secondary resource units/buildings that give you free money infinitely>GLA gets undodgeable viral missiles that poison and kill vehicles instantlyyour mod sucks. plain and simple.
>>2399815kek, I would like another generals mod, I am just surprised that there are so much obscure mods (or replays of them) in youtube especially the likes of:>That one Homeworld naval mod mission>Vietnam Glory Obscured >That resident evil one>TWO WW2 modsAside from the usual Contra, or Shockwave Chaos, or Rise of the Reds, or even that Chinese Light of Five Stars.
>>2391659if it only it were that simple. What units fall under as rocks, papers, or scissors among them?
Tiberiumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVLEPbynfNo
>>2403686So this is like a fan sequel to renegade like that one with the red alert 2 renegade fan game?
>>2403986Kinda looks that way.
>>2392703>unfinished modsMan, I am still salty from not being able to experience the likes of that ra3 paradox mod, and that european conflict / deep impact mod. oh, and also pic related. ww2 mods lol even knowing there are other ww2 rts
>>2405190>pic related
>>2405191Classic modder scopecreep and bloat. Could have finished one by just having 2 factions in a single theater and expand from there but they just always have to cram in whatever they can think of.Also isn't that a modern Leopard 2
>>2405503>scopecreepthat kills game mods so frequently. At least the art and assets are nice to look at.>modern leopard 2 that orange tank sure did stuck out like a sore thumb. Sure is cool, just like the ufo from the top right (wished it was a hanebu) german wunderwaffe does have that Yuri Faction energy to them.
Closing on target
>>2406485Why is her ass so flat?
>>2407382>Kirov with gunzInstead of the usual slow bombers, what add-on is this for the rotr mod?>>2407447Western sensibilities.
>>2407754they made an addon for a community update called hanpatch which adds easter egg units to each side and they're all meant to be overpowered because the AI is nearly impossible otherwise. I would only recommend playing with limited superweapons turned on so they can't constantly kill your economy with one nuke/particle beam/solar burst after another. Russia is supposed to never be on the defensive but you really have no choice with how goddamn hard it is
>>2407776Couldn’t Defeat Easy AI AwardContra Mod will prolly give ya PTSD
>>2407845my screenshot of the kirov raping the amerimutts was on hardAnd contra isn't a good mod period because you can't play it how you want. It's all about rushing for a superunit before the AI gets one
>>2407855Needed OP Unit To Defeat Bot AwardNegative skill lol
>>2408052What???
>>2407776>OP superunits >Who are also easter eggsVery cool! But the only way to gatekeep the AI would be to make it only available as a one-time subfaction choice upgrade, like that RA3 World in Conflict mod (especially its 2.91D)>>2407855 >Contrarushing for super units is the best strat, since spammable secondary economies. Honestly amused with the changes in the X version:>Nuke General's Nuke Hunters have a higher rank requirement, but at least their speaker towers are now watch towers so he's not rushed to death that quickly>Superweapon General has two paths, conventional and experimental - looks very boss like with the two choices, like another faction within another factionI like contra for their units, but not so much for its general's promotion hard requirement for the tech up. Wished they had mission campaigns, and glad that Tank General is the easiest among the generals because his Sniper Cannon, T1 Arty, has the shortest range of all the T1 Artys of all the other generals.
>>2405191How do harvesters and resourcing even work in these ww2 mods or did they even get that far
>>2407754Kirovs have front mounted turrets in the official game art, they just never actually been able to use them inside the games.Personally I would have them double as troop transport instead of just bombers. Not that it would be super useful but it would be hilarious if they could drop paratroopers, or lower a rope ladder and have flak and tesla troops descend to defend it.
>>2408111>Good in contraTheir 0-star general can produce secondary economy units, also spammable black markets for gla and spammable internet centers for china.>Rotr secondary economyKinda bummed that glad can only build one black market (even though they got the bounty for enemy kills for free,) having spammable markets is preferable. Thought gla's "power is optional" and faster econ thru bounty + scraps would make them quite stronger if they removed the black market hard limit, but that's just my preference for the faction.China also has those internet trucks, so those function just as similar as the russian arms dealer trucks, unless Russia, once econ scaled, can dominate easily with having more varied ground units than any other rotr faction.>>2408305>Front-mounted turret kirovsLike anti-air defense? Could imagine them as a sort of bulkier helixes, literally true overlords of the skies>As heavy air transportSure if they're just as fast as those troop transport planes, but if they're slow, it would be better for them to haul groups of vehicles, since vehicles are greater in attack and defense than just infantry.
>>2408438>Like anti-air defense?probably? it would make sense. old WW2 bombers had similar turret bunkers on their bellies too. Realistically it's probably just a design fluff.>Sure if they're just as fast as those troop transport planes, but if they're slow, it would be better for them to haul groups of vehicles, since vehicles are greater in attack and defense than just infantry.I was thinking of the Red Alert 2 intro where you have massive fleet of Kirovs flying into New York. They fly between buildings, so they can't exactly bomb anything but the streets. So it would make more sense if they carried a larger group of infantry, a large fleet of Kirovs could be used for invasions, not just mass destruction.Also consider that the Allies in RA3 also have a slow heavy bomber which can be loaded with infantry to paradrop. So it wouldn't be unprecedented.
>>2408438They build limited black markets because in zero hour they could be spammed infinitely and it was just bullshit to deal with on top of the GLA player gaining money with each kill. Most say that in rotr China has the best eco since hackers scale over time and are cheapest but I still think Russia's is better since hackers require too much input from the player. Once heavy anti air vehicles start being spammed there's simply no way to stop Russia's economy. China's you can wipe out with a10 strike/anthrax bomb once they start building hackers without vans, but with Russia you can't even touch their base because Grumble range is fucking crazy. Still it's really rare to see a game go longer than a half hour so the Russia player usually always has less units no matter what
black markets and workers are definitely the backbone of a global liberation effort.Full: >>>/vg/567741820>>2408442>larger group of infantryso the infantry drop is like that paradrop power, or the disembarking of infantry like in the allied nighthawk transport / generals us chinook, or it's like a rappel down ala combat drop (just like the previously mentioned us chinook?)>slow heavy bomber>and a troop transportthe century bomber?>>2408780>gla black markets can be scaled infinitely>this compounds to the bounty generals powerlore-wise that should fit for a resourceful rebel faction, but that econ kneecap makes them weaker than even the ECA and China.>Russian Grumble range is [expletive] crazyOut of all the heavy AAs? They're incredibly strong and fast for their size. I saw its overpoweredness through the S-300 vehicle from that RA3 WIC 2.91D EN mod, it destroyed even the stadiums where the kirov launched from (specifically that one Allied Havana mission)
