Also, is it there a mod for CK2 that makes the AI an actual Artificial INTELLIGENCE?
Yet more worthless ragebait on this shambling corpse of a website. Move along, nothing of substance here.
>>2311555Ragebait where? It's a genuine question.
Remnants from the precursors with ai mods is the only one. Everything else is just a joke.
>>2311555IESLB, and ramblings about "actual AI", whatever that means. Either way, meaningful, in-depth discussion of game AI on this board is, at best, a remote possibility, so I wouldn't recommend continuing with this discussion. After all, this board is an exclusive VIP club for elite e-sports players only, who don't need no singleplayer.
Civ 5 + Vox PopuliAnd yes, some people are teaching AI models to play it, but that's a separate project entirely
>>2312084Excuse my ignorance, what game is that?>>2312270Thanks anon, I love CiV so the mod is good news.Do you know good AI mods for CK2 (that are updated, don't bug nor break the game)?
>>2312618Don't get your hopes up that much with VP. You gotta crank up the difficulty to at least emperor and the AI cheates anyway
>>2312629Ok, thanks anon.
>>2312629Isn't Emp the normal difficulty for vanilla? Iirc VP advertises that its difficulty levels are more difficult by a rank or two. Also, VP bonuses ramp up over time instead of being frontloaded as in vanilla.
play multiplayer or wait 30 years for models to catch up to the dying games industry
>>2311546there is none because real Artificial INTELLIGENCE simply does not exist as of today. Deal with it and move on with your firggin' life.
>>2311546characters in CK2 roleplay more than the soulless player that goes against his character traits all the time.the stress system in CK3 forces the player to stay in character.idk if it was an illusion due to AI not having anything else to do or what but ck2 had had decent plays.different religion liege would strip your titles when he can, vassals with claims wouod try to get a favor on you to press their claims, neighboring kingdoms would declare war on you in shitty moments when you're already in several otherwars and your levies are depleted and factions would trigger in shitty moments as well.
>>2311546Stellaris
>>2312618Remnants is a moo1 fangame.
>>2314583What if the Nemesis system of Shadow of Mordor was implemented in CK2?
>>2316651From what I heard, AI is worse there than in CK2.
>>2316644>characters in CK2 roleplay more than the soulless player that goes against his character traits all the time.Wtf are you talking about? THe only RPG the player can do is to choose between 2 repetitive options through all the campaign, and those options are pure hellish spam.
>>2324342>THe only RPG the player can do is to choose between 2 repetitive options through all the campaign, and those options are pure hellish spam.what game are you talking about? i'm not trying to shitpost. what i was trying to say is the concept of stress forcing the player into roleplaying according to his character's traits is a good concept. regardless of how well it's implemented in ck3.
>>2324359I was playing CK2, I get the notification spam because I'm forced to put the game in ultra-speed to see SOMETHING FINALLY HAPPENING.The only RPG that I get is when a notification makes me choose between the same options again and again and again...
>>2324363i guess i'm starting to understand you. you're talking about the OP topic rather than my own post.the AI goes off relations, claims and traits unlike the player that does things for gain regardless of those things.maybe you don't have a vassal with claims that you can press because you're weak or because you play meta and land nobodies for easier control whereas i always land family members and try to keep famous/big dynasties alive.maybe you don't play at risky border areas where your liege can be defeated so you don't end up with a muslim liege.maybe you're too big to antagonize so the AI feels it will get stomped if it tries to start shit with you. ck2 shines when starting as a single county count at the border with muslims. those are the most fun campaigns i've ever experienced.
>>2324378>you're talking about the OP topic rather than my own post. I'm OP, I didn't get your post, that's why I was trying to explain mine.Also, I tried all of those that you mentionated, I felt bored in all of them.
>>2324384>I tried all of those that you mentionated, I felt bored in all of them.it seems you've become Crusader Kings™i can agree that the games are too shallow and they resort to purposefully antagonizing the player by setting up shitty odds and events so their replay value is low for someone who has fun by organic gameplay.
1) Real AI does not exist yet2) Any AI sufficiently advanced to simulate even one human opponent would not run on a home computer.So you are stuck with shit.The only solution for the foreseeable future is to kidnap orphaned street kids in 3rd world countries. Get them hooked on hard drugs, amputate their legs so they cant escape, and wet wire them up to dedicated game servers. They act as online opponents. Available 24/7. If they win they get their fix, if not they go cold turkey. Once they burn out they go to the pig farms, there's always plenty of fresh ones to be harvested from the streets.
>>2325410>The only solution for the foreseeable future is to kidnap orphaned street kids in 3rd world countries. Get them hooked on hard drugs, amputate their legs so they cant escape, and wet wire them up to dedicated game servers.company of heroes 2 does this
Remnants of the Precursors with Fusion mod Stars in the Shadow and Old World. Their AIs actually plays the games well without blatant cheating. For most part, 4X games are fun during the process of mastering them, and then only against human opponents or as an optimization puzzles against bullshit difficulties and challenges.The dude who made AI for Remnants of the Precursors is currently involved in a new scifi strategy game Astro Protocol, but it is going to be more streamlined and board gamey game.
>>2324394I wonder how much 4X / GS games would change if the AI-RPG mod was implemented in them. Perhaps they would actually become fun to play.
