I am making a game suspiciously resembling EU4, what realism features, mechanics and other misc things did you feel Eu4 lacked? Making a list to take note of.
>>2312877pops
>>2312877corruption (not the way it was in eu4)
>>2312877fun
>>2312877municipal sewer systems
>>2312893so jews. The more you have the more corruption, higher inflation from coin cutting increased immigration, lower crown power, and increased deaths from well poisoning
>>2312877popsmore nuanced autonomy
>>2312877Do you want my opinions even though I most likely won't play your game let alone pay for it?
>>2312877A buggery metric
IDGAF about realism. Make the game good first, or make Dwarf Fortress.
>>2312970>game just becomes about the Jewpocalypse>'didn't adopt a fiat system -100 relations with all democratic nations'
>>2312877Better combat. Maybe slower colonization so that the entiraty of America and Africa isnt colonized before the vicky timeline.
>>2312877Slavery, of course. And racial behavioral difference factored in like iq
>>2312877>what realism featuresdon't make it so that the player can take actions that would result in an outcome that is any different that what actually happened in real history. If you make every game play out exactly the same, then you will have perfect realism. After all, if your game always follows history, then you have the perfect historical simulator.
>>2312877where did you get the province map?
>>2313788Pax Solis mod leader let me use his map, but, i was testing with another too
>>2313516Race is made up. Might as well include vampires and fairies.
>>2314819>Race is made upRight, that’s why computer models can determine a patients race by looking at x-rays, different races have different rates of different diseases, different ages of puberty, different mean IQs and brain structures, and why it’s difficult to find a match for organ/marrow transplants outside one’s race, because it’s all made up and genes aren’t real. It’s all just skin deep.Next, are you going to tell us how bigoted and transphobic it is to claim that men and women have different pelvises?
>>2314830>Right, that’s why computer models can determine a patients race by looking at x-rays,They can't because race isn't real. Ancestry is largely pseudoscience, literally all they do is compare different averages. You can draw the line however you want. You choose race because you are working backwards from a conclusion. I could just as easily divide everybody based on the city or town they live in and gain as reliable results. >different races have different rates of different diseases, different ages of puberty, different mean IQs and brain structures1: Race isn't real real. You are working backwards again. 2: Any two people have different rates. The difference between two African men is as great as between a African and European men. This whole thing comes from people not having finished high school education and not understanding how basic biology works. There is no such thing as race, all people actually do is compare averages to other averages. Creating utterly meaningless results that are only good for vaguely guessing your ancestry (Vaguely because in reality we don't know the actual genetic information of people from the past, so we are just comparing current people to profiles that might not even be accurate).
>>2315502>The difference between two African men is as great as between an African and European men.I used to repeat this when I was a young ignorant leftie, but it’s so prima facie retarded that it’s proof you really haven’t thought about any of this for even two seconds. The rest of your post was dumb enough it’s not even worth responding to.
>>2315542Pretty impressive you got dumber as you got older.>The rest of your post was dumb enough it’s not even worth responding to.A very bold way of saying "You are right, but im too proud to openly admit that". It's fine to admit defeat when talking with somebody that knows more than you, but don't try to hide it.Race is made up pseudoscience pushed by guilible idiots that can't argue. Ironically, it is far more often associated with low iq and poor education than ancestry or ethnicity.
>>2314819>>2315502>>2315629Very sorry to hear about your brain damage.
>>2312877The button to expel the jews that paradox had in ck2.
>>2314819The "iz jus dey skeen cola" narrative is so tiresome. If the only difference between an African and a European was skin pigmentation no one on Earth would be a racist, and it's hilarious that people actually believe that to be the case.
>>2315502>>Right, that’s why computer models can determine a patients race by looking at x-rays,>They can't because race isn't real.https://med.emory.edu/departments/radiology/research/research-news/reading-race.html
>>2312970But you gain access to eastern or western specific techs, are able to well poison enemy Christian nations and if you promise and deliver Palestine to them you get a temporary buff to your spy networks, fail or reneg and your family members randomly start dying and your populations start forming splinter religions like becoming Mormons or some gay shit.
>>2315837See: >>2315502>>2315765Racism isn't rational, anon. It's pseudoscience playing on inherent flaws in the human mindset. Like I said, it's similar to believe in vampires and fairies.
>>2316078See:>>2315837
>>2316561Still working backwards, I see...
>>2316561Awnser the point raised here:>>2315502Otherwise: admit defeat.
>>2312877Weaponized rape
>>2316576Marriage?
>>2316577Don't act dumb
>>2312877unprotifable provinces
>>2312877i wont tell you actual really importiant advice, butREMOVE ALL RANDOMNESS
>>2312877Actually simulated processes instead of everything being abstracted into arbitrary numbers
>>2316575Answer the point raised here:>>2315837Otherwise, admit defeat.
>>2317170I already did: It's working backwards. You can't tell race apart because race isn't real. People drew a arbitrary line, and that line doesn't actually mean anything because it's based on nonsense and pseudoscience.
what I don't like is that most of those games you play as a Dictator ultimately. you command science, politics, the military, financial instruments and everything else so they are basically god simulators in a sense and you're just playing against other gods. it'd be more interesting if it was about the rise to power. you pick a general area on the political spectrum and then you establish ideologies and push your agenda. be it through peaceful means like campaigning and trying to find supporters or being a guerilla fighter and bombing the embassy, organizing with external forces, spreading propaganda, converting/assassinating/executing/terrorising/helping people and effectively provinces. you could recreate a modern day arab spring and train suicide bombers or you could decide to go to art school in austria first. i think that'd be more interesting as a concept and many grand strategy / 4x concepts could be transferred/renamed/applied easily to it.
>>2317457You can't because it's just a arbitrary line. You can use ancestry to view what cities people are from just as much as your arbitrary line, but I doubt you are going to argue Barcelonan or Londoner is a race.
>>2317458We're reaching levels of midwit that shouldn't even be possible.
>>2317463And you are a retard that disproves race simply by the fact that in a just society you would be hunted down for being a eugenic failure incapable of basic humanity and forced to do hard labor until the day you die regardless of your skin color.Now argue, or admit defeat.
>>2317464>in a just society you would be hunted down for being a eugenic failure incapable of basic humanity and forced to do hard labor until the day you dieI bet you call other people "fascist", lmao
>>2317465I call them facsist for being racist idiots. I have no issue with a world of brutal eugenics and harsh meritocracy as long as it means the correct people, like stupid racists, are worked to death like they should be.
>>2317443I did consider a degree of slapping CK2,3 character dynamics in to constrain the player. It’d actually be the only way to realistically simulate tribal nations and succession issues that India had that allowed their conquest, then over time this mechanic becomes less relevant as the state becomes more ascendant
>>2312877>what realism featuresNone.Realismfags are the worst game designers by far, as they apply extremely limited and misguided perception of "realism" to selective elements of the game that are usually their hobby matter, and then the game sucks due to having disjoined mess of mechanics.Design a functional game, first and foremost. Striving for its realism is wasting everyone's time, for it's going to be still a limited simulation.
>>2321036>t.
>>2312877>Peasants moods. If they aren't entertained/culled by war/distracted they go full retard at some point.>Noble incestLegitimacy vs breeding pure retards. Also if your ruler exceeds a certain inbred percentage he might just randomly do the most retarded shit ever. >Cultural inclinations The French like the finer things in life, the Germans want to be productive, the Swiss want to be neutral, the Dutch want profits etc.
>>2312893Agreed. Corruption and female leaders in bikini armor.
>>2312877Better mechanics around holding straits.
>>2313516The problem with trying to simulate race is you have to then figure out mechanics with racemixing and how smart/violent/whatever different combinations turn out and stuff and it all just gets too complicated, better to save it for fantasy races that can't breed with each other
