How are you holding up AoE2 chads? Excited for the Mapuche? I'm really looking forward to Bolas Riders and the team game synergy, can't waitPic related, glorious one hand victory while snacking on naans dipped in garam masala. Post your favorite AoE2 snacks
>>2331411Good morning saars
>>2331418Good morning! Why is a tribal dilapidated impoverished shithole civ starting with +25 resources again? Having a hard time wrapping my head around that
>>2331435because colonialism stole from the natives, chud
>>2331435They turned up late and so were busy gathering in the dark age?
>>2331435Cannibalism.
Tupi's bonus should have been food on enemy unit killsCowards
>>2331460Meh, boring. And they already get food discount on unit upgrades and recover resources from lost units (that one will surely get nerfed into the ground).
>>2331449but it's a bonus to all resources, not just food. Did they trade bones and build stuff out of them?
>>2331467You eat some European monks, scavenge the wood from their staves, loot their valuables, and pull some pebbles out of their sandals.
Which features of the new civs will be wound back after a month?Everything being divisible by 5 helps.
there are 3 threads on the catalog rn, which is the real one?
>>2331411Mapuche? More like Mapoopoo, heh. I'm going to play Portuguese/Spanish and stomp all the dlc buyer noobs on a new account when it comes out. Nothing personell, just someone's gotta do it
>>2331609this one, the other either hit bump limit or is dedicated to resident schizos
>>2331691Arent DLC civs always overpowered at the beginning, then they nerf them once every regular series goy bought them?
>>2331695Yes, of course; however I'll simply dump my elo a bit so the skill difference makes up for the civ difference as my conquistadors slaughter the inflood of Mexicans and Chileans coming in to play their native civ. Again, it just has to be done
>>2331695These civs don't seem that overpowered from their bonuses, Mapuche seems the most straightforward to play, they have a better version of Franks berry bonus, they have settlements that can train trash so you get a head start on production, they seem like they will be great until the game goes long and you are outteched.Muisca is basically Mayans, Champis might be better than eagles but they have no halb, -50% gold on aging is not going to help a lot, they do have healing on their settlements which could facilitate cheese.Tupi are trash, they have good towers but nothing else.
Anyone wanna play team or lobby games?
You ARE standing with ACCM this redbull, right? AoE2 is a millenial game.
>>2331755I'm standing with Yo because I genuinely fear he'd face the firing squad if he failsVinchester is a vatnigger and his death would benefit the world and humanity
>>2331766Hating on other white people is so kosher my dude
>>2331774>inbred mongolian century-long rape bastards are white
>>2331766Hating russians is so reddit my dude
>>2331784hating russians is the whitest thing in the world. There will never be peace in europe until the retarded rabid savage dog nation is put down once and for all
>>2331787It's literally western europe who is constantly starting shit with the whole world, The US, China, Asia in general, Russia, Africa. Now they even started beef with fucking south america.Hell, back when it was just Europe, Asia and a little bit of North Africa, they were still killing each other over petty shit.
>>2331789>It's literally western europe who is constantly starting shit with the whole worldIt's literally russia who is starting shit with all its neighbors for no reasons other than banan. The ultimate goy cattle nation going to die in hundreds of thousands for... banan. No other reason at all. Just banan. Everyone else is interested in economic, cultural and social growth, while russia and russians just want banan and they will kill you if you deny them banan. Then they will rape your corpse. Then they will get drunk (5th time in one day). Literally everyone in europe was under 1% of GDP dedicated to military spending until the banan chimpout of 2022. What country that "starts shit" does it with under 1% of GDP investment? The answer is: none. Because russians and (you) made it up. Because you just want banan and will make up literally anything to justify getting it.
When are slavs getting the Rus split
>>2331792holy shit have some mercy anon
>>2331792>Under 1% on military>30% on welfareWhy don't you have welfare, we have that in Germany
>>2331792Should've let him have Ukraine.
>>2331789hahahahaha
>>2331411TheGhostmaster living rent free in your head>>2331609This one and the previous one is made by the resident jeet shitposter, >>2326883 is the real one that this jeetposter hopes everybody ignores
>>2331692>this oneThis one was LITERALLY made a shitpostetr what you are on about
im holding up fine, but i wish handcannoneers would be buffed.
>>2331860Where is the shitpost? It's a normal AoE2 thread aside from the /pol/ intermission
>>2331900they're still doing good in the current meta thougheverbeit
>>2331960>Where is the shitpost?On the OP, considering it is the shitposter using screenshoots that dont belong to him
>>2331411Mapuches look like an open map early pressure civ, could be very annoying. How hard they fall in late games depends on the elite bolas rider. I like the concept, the most interesting of the 3. Muiscas could be a very annoying clown civ. Probably a top tier archer civ, specialty in late game. Archers usually go well with siege more than with monks, so let's see how they're played. Great team bonusTupi the most average of the 3. Seems like the Maya but with a worse economy.I hope that the Inca keeps the eagle as an option even if they have now the champi as a scout, will be fun, and they are an infantry civ after all, losing 2 units and gaining one doesn't seem right. But I think that it's difficult that the devs will do that.
>>2332100Mapoopoo, Mucus, Poopi.Yes, I'm 5 years old. Also, buff hand canoneers, fuck slingers
>>2332091>screenshoots that dont belong to himAre screenshots private property? This is some NFT derangement shit right here. Anything you post on 4chan is public property by default
>>2332136True, doesnt stop from making you look like some sort of obsessed weirdoIt's still peak shitposter behaviour
>>2332150>doesnt stop from making you look like some sort of obsessed weirdoMeds
>>2332190I will compliment you, jeet shitposter, you are very good at editing your images
>>2332201It's not edited and I'm not any kind of poster, I just like playing as Vikings on any map type and going Berserks even when they get hard countered. Unironically get a grip on your schizophrenia
Has anyone been able to get any 1v1 games on arena lately? I'll favourite arena and ban Arabia/lowland and people will just constantly dodge/insta resign until I get fed up and unban Arabia.
>>2332215Cool story bro.Here's your gold star!
>>2332270damn that's a lot of frames
they originally thougth of just making a full set of buildings for the Inca and just reusing the set for the rest of southamericans, but then they changed their minds
>>2332268>>2332270>>2332272>>2332273Was not aware THAT much tech goes into develoing these animations
>>2332279you can see the whole process of creating, modeling and coloring the units and buildings herehttps://www.ageofempires.com/news/from-concept-to-final-polish-the-art-of-the-last-chieftains/
New architecture set is looking good. Now they need to pull their fingers out of their asses and put fix 3k and turn it into what it should've been
>>2332282there's something kinda funny about the destruction animation for these hut on a hill type castlesyeah lemme just lob rocks at it until the whole hill collapses like it's hollow inside
>>2332274What do you mean? All three new civs plus the Inca share the new set
>>2332288I'll be honest, I don't like any of the destruction animations. They shouldn't look perfectly fine and then slowly crumble. They should look like they just got hit with a catapult or bombard and collapse rapidly.
>>2332336i think i explained myself wrong. What i meant was they were going to make the set based entirely on the Inca architecture, and then just slap it to the other 3. But then they later regretted it, and added things from the Tupi, Mapuche and Muisca.
>>2332337i mean, these animations are made just for eye-candy, they arent meant to be realistic. I mean just look at the animation destruction of the Pyramid, like its a broken kinder-egg lolhttps://youtu.be/PaY-8MwYoWA?t=327
which is the least reddit caster right now?
>>2332356Dave by a mile
Grubby has started grinding aoe2 1v1 and it's making me want to try it after years of only fucking around with AI and 4v4 team games. If I can beat extreme AI straight-up in like 2 out of 3 games would I be above 1k in 1v1 eventually or just giga-humiliated 100 elo unc topper?
What is the most elo you guys have gotten from a 1v1 outside of placement matches? I got 26 today for beating a 1900
>>2332422Stop flexing, stupid phosphoru rusher
>>2332360True. He's not reddit-tier retarded, just discord-tier.
>>2332348I would like if each major patch had a different unique skin for another building or unit.Units redone for the architecture setsBuildings like Churchs which don’t change through the ages slowly becoming unique.
>hut on a hill>but a wonder this timehmm
>>2332866Looks pretty however
>>2332866kek, the worst wonder yet
>>2332866We building natural wonders now. I wonder how it looks on a snow map?
>>2332871i mean yeah>>2332895if the waterfall doesnt freeze we riot
>>2332866Will probably look a bit weird on desert maps but I like it, the wooden castle too. Some flavor
>>2332866Civ7 Buganda tier architecture
>>2332866grimI mean it looks beautiful, but it's grim this is the wonder
>>2332866In my little town in the southern latitudes of Chile there's fortifications built by the spanish that are still standing. One of them got a chemamüll (the wooden statues seen here) planted in the middle and got repurposed as a little plaza that overlooks the nearby river. When I saw the Mapuche wonder I thought about how cool it would've been for it to instead be a captured spanish fort with mapuche paraphernalia and a chemamüll planted front and centerAfter all, the spanish never managed to completely drive the Mapuche away from the Araucanía
>>2332279Always been the case since aoe I, they made whole 3d models just for the sprites. With the technology of that time units looked like characters from ReBoot of course, but still looked better than, say, wc2 sprites.
>>2332960Majestic_African_Palaces.jpg
>>2332866They couldn't even pull that. Indios can't live in conjunction with nature. Living in the congosur you learn they absolutely hate seeing green, which is why their neighbourhoods are always grey. Pic related are a bunch of houses the government gave for free to some favelados, left 2019 and right 2025
>>2332866>chinese mythology civs with disgustingly op units>literal mud hut jungle savage """civs""" with wonders that are just hits made out of sticksThe future of this game doesn't look good.
>>233340980 "civs" by 2035this is good for the game, chudthe 0.01% of people who play 7 hours a day are THIRSTY for new content
>>2332866>The Mongols are the only civilization in the game whose Wonder lacks a real-life monumental counterpart. Instead, the Mongol Wonder is loosely based on an artistic depiction of Genghis Khan's ascension to the throne in his tent by an Ilkhanate historian, Rashid al-Din HamadaniWell, not anymore.
>>2333440what about the Huns wonder? Is the equivalent of conquering a city, putting a flag on a building, and calling it "my wonder :)"
>>2333240This is simple racism. Economic depravity is caused by western exploitation and unfair trading. Brazil has been plundered by the West since its discovery and even after de-colonization.Brazilians are actually very ecologically conscious and in touch with nature. It is western corporations appropriating their land and devastating it which damages their natural ecosystem and further traps them in a cycle of poverty. Enabled by corruption and international pressure (Just look at what happened to Venezuela when the refused to kneel to America).The United Fruit Company might be the most famous name but it is not the only corporation to practically invade South America and it is something which very much still happens today.
>>2333471cala-te, gringo
>>2333471At first I thought this post was clever sarcasm, but the more I read, the more I realized it was sincere.
>>2331699Wtf fuck you. Im mexican
>>2333471Would be funny if the anon you replied was a Brazilian that actually knew what the fuck happens in Brazil, and not this deranged gringo conspiracy you got
>>2333538“banana republics didn’t exist but if they did the natives deserved it”that’s what you sound like right now man
>>2333409Maybe the goal is to kill this game at some point to make room for a new flagship RTS (AoE5?). Must be annoying for them that players still cling to the old games instead of rushing to buy new ones. They'll keep selling DLCs for as long as it's profitable while the spleeting and gameplay alterations gradually decimate the playerbase.
So are they trying to get the BR playerbase on board? Why else would they add Tupi.
>>2333537Dumping my elo even lower so I can find your ass pendejo
>>2333555>Why else would they add Tupi.So gringos can feel good about how benevolent and inclusive they are.
was the first Spartan mission supposed to be super difficult or was I just plagued by the stupidity of my men wanting to tank mangonel shots/charge the siege lines instead of attacking rams?It probably didn't help that I went for the northern camp, first, which had, like, 50 archers
>>2333684This.In reality most of southamericans dont really care for the natives still existing.
>>2333746>ready seven black bullsS-seven?... Oh my...
>>2333684>>2333764stop replying to yourself, larper
>>2333555Because they're a major ethnic group of the region, duh. That's what AOE2 is for, showing various places and people in a medieval historic context.
>playing monk siege on team arena>Not going great, opponent is defending really well>Suddenly the enemy pocket shows up with like 10 knights>Convert all of them and the pocket resignsKek
>>2333851I'm Argentinian howeverFuck the Mapuches btw
>>2333764i support the mapuche and i hope they murder all the oligarchs behind the forestry industryim Chilean btw>>2334132chupame la pija pelotudo
>>2334132indian pakistani same thing
>>2334158>indian pakistaniYou forgot the brownest of them all: Americans
>>2334132Milei simp fag. You will never touch a woman for being a fascist loser
>>2331780Ukraine lost
>>2334202Did it? Zelensky is dead? Country de-nazified? Russian flags in Lviv? What proof do you have?
>>2334175>Milei simp fagLmao I'm not, actually
>>2334132>Fuck the Mapuches btwwhite seething!
>>2334132perfectly calculated post to farm (You)s
>>2334478>Argies are white nowLol
>>2334504They’re unironically Whiter than most major European or American cities at this point
>>2332360Dave is reddit. When I said in his chat: "Canada is basically New India, too many Indians there" he got super pissed and called me a racist.Ornlu is even more of a lefty though. The only one I suspect might be a right winger is TWest.
>>2333471>The United Fruit CompanyJewish
>>2334556>Ornlu is even more of a lefty though.Ornlu at least is capable of nuance and accepting divergences.
>>2334564>Ornlu at least is capable of nuance and accepting divergences.Really? He said he was happy when Charlie Kirk got shot dead.
>>2334557Like all american institutions.
>>2334566I suppose it's not mutually exclusive with being a psycho.
>>2334566Charlie Kirk was a proud supporter of people getting randomly shot in public sometimes. Why shouldn’t we be happy he died in accordance to his beliefs?
>>2334589Kirk getting shot was random? That's weird, I thought a guy went up on the roof specifically and explicitly to kill him with full intent and premeditation.
>>2333440they should have made the Silver Tree of Karakorum the Mongol Wonder
>>2334590It must have felt pretty random from Charlie’s point of view.
>>2334597A telltale sign of autism is the inability to differentiate between personal view and objective factual reality. Talk to a shrink and get diagnosed, anon.
Here is the proceded games at peak time of both AoE4 and AoE2. For those who follow the narrative that AoE4 multiplayer community is almost similar in size due to "most aoe2 players in steam are just playing campaigns" lie. AoE2 doubles (and even a little more) the amount of online matches than aoe4Sources: aoe4world.com - aoe2recs.com.
>>2334556I once got muted from Dave's stream for saying CBA stood for Cock and Ball Autism.
>>2334608he tends to be pretty ok with inmature sexual jokes, probably some tranny mod of him banned you
>>2334612He then proceeded to make fun of me in public for that joke.
>>2334556Its not like a stream about video games is the best place to talk about that shit, I agree T-West is the most normal caster
>visit age of empires 2 thread>ecelebs>left or right american politics>miscelaneous south american politics>jeetposterI'd rather have the 20000th hand canonneer buffs post
>>2334666Get new material already
>>2334666Unfortunately those are all things that dictate the development of the game.
>>2334666You forgot the worst twoE-sports and 500 elo/single player gamers discussing balance
>>2334521Truth nuke.
Amaterasu my waifu...I got razy and gave the AI contror of the virragers...they chopped down cherry trees around the shrine for wood and we rost our favor income...
>>2334602so cool that it has to be a competitionwhy should other games even exist when aoe2 does?
down under 250 elo now on 1v1 rm. on my last game it was megarandom, i muddled through making a good eco etc, pushed archers in his case killing a few vils so i ended up spending all of my gold on upgrades and longbows. got absolutely smashed by his siege and cavaliers. ran out of minable gold . he clearly saved some of his gold and steamrolled me. trebbed all my castles whilst annihilating my halbs i was macroing with 14 barracks.had an absolute blast to be fair, really enjoyed it.
>>2334598A telltale sign of autism is the inability to differentiate between sarcasm and honest speech. Get shot randomly in the neck, anon.
>when they see you are incapable of pushing deer and luring boar at the same time
How do I avoid dying to a 1tc castle age attack while doing a cuman boom on closed maps? I'll make a fuckton of walls and towers but it never works out for me.
>>2334666Yeah but thats because you make those posts.
>>2334831You forgot to put the viking in.
>>2334666>I'd rather have the 20000th hand canonneer buffs postThat guy is worse than the reddit/aoe forums Persian architecture rework guy whose been posting about that for years
>>2331755It's sebastian's time I feel it in my marrow.
>>2334857Cumans get feudal age rams
>>2334957'Cause this one is actually a legitimate complaint.
>>2331766>yo>face the firing squad if he failsQRD?
>>2334957not that guy but persians DO need to use the tatar/cuman architecture+ get some new buildings for huns, cumans and khitans while we're at it.
>>2335138Huns and Cumans need their own West Eurasian set, and Mongols, Khitans and Jurchens need a East Eurasian set.
>>2335222I'd do a new civ-specific Church and architecture set villagers first.Then start on differientiating main line buildings and unit types.Each new civ already has two unique building and unit sprites (more since they are making mutli-UU civs). So doing no expansion and doing a bunch of sprites instead could help make what already exists pop.
>>2335098the communist party of people's republic of china routinely disappears and/or gulags people who bring shame on their country abroad and internally. Or even for the tiniest of mistakes. Best case scenario his social credit score gets zeroed and he can no longer use public transportation, fuel his car, or buy groceries.
>>2335237>civ-specific Churchbut does every civ get a unique fortified church as well
>>2335089he lost to hearttt pretty badly last time and it wasn't that long agoit's gonna be hera with a 1% chance of it being lierrey
IT'S HAPPENING!
>>2335488he looks way more scary now than he did back then tho. Vinchester and ACCM the same.I still think Hera wins everything tho
>>2335495Whats happening?
>>2335563IT
>>2335454He's doing that bad? Haven't been paying too much attention for a few months while deburning to fully enjoy Plat and Londinium.
>>2335568You're not explaining anything
what are the ultimate weapons in aoe
>>2335594He doesn't know
>>2335714Of course I dont knowOtherwise I wouldnt be asking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UunbfJtkr2cI actually liked it
>>2335687At low elo tower rushingAt mid elo fast castle into a good UU ( sub 14mins)At high elo IDK
>>2334666im glad someone likes my handcannoneer posts :).>>2334957how am i worse than a redditor?
do redditors really?
>>2335732That's just your average American, nothing new nor surprising
>>2335551Viper quite literally only lost because he was sick the previous day and probably still was but chose to be professional.
>>2335841He only won agaisnt seba in KoTD because he used phosporu strats. He was hard losing on the meta games.>Viper quite literally only lost because he was sick the previous day and probably still was but chose to be professional.Do you realize he probably is the only player in the qualifier who would have ever got such a treatment of let him rest one more day because he was sick? most players would've been told to play that day anyway or fuck off. Not only that, but the games of sitaux-seba were casted on replays just because seba requested it. The idea of the admins was to play that series LIVE on sunday, giving viper an entire day to analize while he showed nothing due to being in the higher standing of the qualifier
>>2334957Way to out yourself as a redditor anon
>>2335841>only lost because he was sick the previous dayMan he must have been sick since around 2019Accept he's no longer THE viper.
Let's settle this. Which stage of the militia line is the sexiest?
>>2336006>large pointy object vs oblong circlejust depends on your orientation dunnit
>>23360062hs b4 skirt
>>2336006maa has the most kino look
>>2336006MAA, it would be champs for me if they didnt use the visor opened
>>2336006MAAs and 2handers
>>2336006Man-at-Armshonourable mention to the Legionary, late Roman aesthetics are very underrated
these weeks before DLCs are the worst for this thread, nobody posts anything interesting
The Hera Era (era of Hera winning every major tournament #1) will last at least until 2040. The Prophet Isa told me so in a dream.
>>2336404Here, something for the jeet shitposter to angrily reply at, might keep the thread intrestingOn a side note, it always bothered me how Spanish are "Conqs: the civ" and literally nothing else
>>2336426i like playing spanish for their monks and donkeys
>>2336470You might be the only one that does that, anon
>>2336426when i play spanish, it'd to build their faster firing handcannoneers (and conqs/cavalry)
>>2336006I think 2h swordsmen look like shit.
>>2336424If you've seen some of his recent games you'd see he's slipping already, Lewis will take the throne within the year
>>2336602true. They looked much better in the original
>>2336426Spanish has the faster firing cannon galleons.
>>2336793naval bonuses are irrelevant and a waste, nobody chooses a civ just because it has a certain water bonus
>>2336912>nobody chooses a civ just because it has a certain water bonusAnd yet, le memesos being bad in wotah mappus means even mountain shitters who never seen a lake let alone the sea have non!cannon galleon and siege engineers... Curious.
>>2336793>conqs but waterwoah...
4 MORE DAYSMOREDAYS...water rework
I really like how these motherfuckers look. Probably my favourite looking infantry unit in the game.
>>2336793Spanish cannon galleons are the strongest unit in the game.>>2336912Wrong, just because you don't play water maps because you are scared that the crystal clear water of aoe2 might touch you and take away your Hindu stench. Doesn't mean some of us out there enjoy water/hybrid maps to feel the aryan feeling of conquering the seas.
>>2336006Champs, but I think the Chronicles equivalents are neat too.
You now remember that HD used to have trading card artwork.
>>2337139those swords are scratched the fuck right up huh
>>2337139You now remember AoM extended edition's promo artwork
Behold, the only official depiction of Castle Blood.>>2337176Okay, those can be forgotten.
>>2337108>take away your Hindu stench.A Hindu GOD called Thunderbolt beat french Sitaux in a pro game (lost the series) yesterday. How does that make you feel
If the indian civs don't have Knights, why do Burmese, Malay and Khmer do?
>>2337160This art was made during the very end of the extreme edgy videogame period.
>>2337469:)
>>2337469Don't jinx it. At this rate devs will add multiple unique and regional units in every civ and who knows what else.
What is the best counter strat to do against a Persian Douche? Try to fight his vills with yours and not allow his TC to go up? Delete your own TC and rebuild it elsewhere near stone in case you need to do it again? Spam outposts if you see the opponent is Persian?
>>2337561Just move somewhere else and restart from 0:00 and proceed to have exactly the same game you would have had if the other dude hadn't douched (x2).
if i want to get into pvp, which game should i go for? which one has more people online, not playing campaigns? which one is more accessible?
>>2337469because they don't get elephant archers
>>2337610But Malay, Khmer and Vietnamese should get Elephant Archers.Burmese should keep the horses tho.
>>2337139I hate how smoothed over the modern art is from HD onwards.
so when is rematch getting out of beta?
>>2337609AoE2 for every question
>>2337609>1 is only played in Vietnam, and not even the remaster but the original>3 was questionable before, now it doesn't even get any support from devs>4 is recommended for noobs by some anons, not sure if trolling>AoM is somehow doing worse than 3I don't even like 2, but that is the one you should consider.
>>2337813>AoM is somehow doing worse than 33 is f2p
>>2337816Not exactly. You only get a few available civs in rotation without buying the full game. And unlike 2, you can't just pick a random civ and hope to do well by spamming archers/cav.
>>2337813>Make an AoE I DE with a vietnamese civ just for them>they keep playing the originalKek. Resources well spent...
>>2337859If only they kept the original sounds and graphics for RoRAoE2 DE managed to port the animations perfectly 1:1 (except for halberdiers) from the original but AoE1 graphics are kinda ass with awful animations.
>>23376092 or 4 are both good options, although you will probably need to play at least 25 hours absolute minimum of single player to learn the game before playing online.
My favorite unit, the genital
>>2337561Think about it economically, if the guy wastes resources (probably 100s) by moving all his villagers to douche you, who's in a better position if you do the same but just place your TC a few tiles off? He's betting everything on you doing something retarded
>>2338544>He's betting everything on you doing something retardedThe persian douche is a noob test. Don't fight it, let it come, move away, don't lose vills. Even with all the hassle you always end up ahead even if you get double douched. It's just a glorified reset where the douchee ends up ahead.
>26 viewsbro fell off...
>>2338843lolAnyway, did M$ still not greenlight the muisca shit? Come on the DLC releases in less than a week.
So what can I actually do in AoE4 when I'm being ganged up on by AI?Allies rarely help, or help too late and run away too soon. So I'm in a constant cycle of barely surviving, barely rebuilding, and losing any gains. Haven't played in year, but I dont remember AI being like this. Used to play against ridiculous AI but now I can't even manage hardest.
I don't know why, but I still am not feeling it, haven't pre-ordered the Latinx America / South america DLC yet. Do you guys (the many Argentinians [Argentines] and Brazilians posting here) really feel happy that you're "represented" by the Tupi and the Mudanchee? I thought all of y'all would prefer to larp as the Portuguese or the Spanish Conquistadores.
>>2338952Argie. No. Fuck the Mapooche and fuck the fact our greatest founding father didn't finish the job properly.
>>2338952I'm getting it for the zergling archers and retarded settlement rush memes, that's about it, also I want to see how the waterfall wonder looks in a dry desert map like Arabia
>>2338843Dammit, I already finished my three pizzas watching anime, if I had known earlier I would've also make some time for my pretend-online-friend, Spirit of the Law, and his newest video on Who, a Chinese race I never played.
>>2338843I love how SoTL did alexander civ overviews before even touching 3K turds.
>>2338961>raceerm bro it's a Han Chinese political faction that self-governed independent of the central bureaucracy for 58 years before being reabsorbed back into China, clearly civ material
>Muiscaca>Tupee>Mapooches
>>2338952I just preordered because I want to use the healing settlements and garrisonable settlements to vill rush with
>>2339450>vill rushHow's life @ negative elo?
>>2338952I think Tupi is alright, at least it's not conceptually flawed like the Three Kingdoms shit. Compared to that, this DLC is great.
>>2338952I'm excited honestly.
>>2338952Another argie here.No, fuck the Mapuches.I also dislike the Spaniard, both irl and in game (fuck Conquistadors). Italians are cool however.
>>2339454I am probably higher elo than 95% of people in this thread
What civ should I play if I'm balding?
>>2339649BaldgariansBaldgundians
>>2339649BaldeseBaldonsBaldish
>>233895275% Brazilians would feel more represented by Portuguese, Italians or even Malians than TupiStill could be a fun civ if Champis are viable.
>>233987975% of brazilians can't feel represented by any civ or even meme "civs" like the tupi because they are all triracial mutts with no identity.Only the white like 15-20% of brazilians can trace their roots further than their grandpa
How about...pro tournament...but the players have to ONLY play with the civs that represent their ethnicity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf4D4Rn9B5II think he's got a point
>>2339961Yo would have an unfair advantage.
>>2339999ACCM: VietnameseHera: ???Hearttt: Spanish??? Incas may seem obvious but dude doesnt look indigenous to me.Liereyy: TeutonsMbL: Britons???Vinchester: SlavsSebastian: Spanish???Yo: ChineseBased on surnames btw
>>2340007I believe Hera is Turkish.
>>2340007MbL is Norwegian, so him and Viper would have to play Vikings.
>>2340027I'm getting conflicted info on the roots of the surname "Levernes". One AI is telling me it's french while the other says it's british.
>>2338973SOTL is a huge Chronicles fan, he goes out of his way to promote it and even did a dev interview with capture age
>>2340035Chronicles puts every other DLC to shame in sheer amount of effort.A shame the civs aren't playable in ranked desu. 3K civs stealing their bonuses was just so ass.
>https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/813780/view/536623744410455608?l=englishmuisca presentation out
>>2339993>AoE IV>dogshitI'm not in the mood to defend it (I'm still on the camp that it should have been either classical history or be set right after AoE III), but I saw a video the other day talking about how a unit like the villager has a dozen different voicelines, which even change with each age up. No wonder why they can only make spinoff civs now, that's a shitload of resources.
>>2340040lol
>>2340051that was on my recommended toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-v_Yc6fSq0I like attention to detail, but there's such a thing as taking things too faryou don't need over 1000 voice lines for a single unit in a single factionquality trumps quantity every time and 2-3 minutes of dialogue per unit is more than enough, people still spam "prostagma" and quote lines from dawn of war 1 and command and conquer generals 20 years on and in those games each unit only has 1-3 minutes of dialogue
WHICH MENTALLY ILL PIECE OF SHIT DESIGNED THE THIRD PERSIA MISSION IN CHRONICLES?>do not lose a single town>I lose a town even though my tower is still standing, the tower I kept repairing gets captured>my starting troops are completely worthless, nothing I can train until classical age (which I rushed anyway) can do a dent against the hoplites>they just spawn where they want to attack, by the time I walk to the town, the "allied garrison" is dead and my tower is half deadHARDEST (optional) OBJECTIVE IN HISTORY OF AOE 2
Does this loser even even? He doesn't even the basic lore of AoE2 >>2340025Hera is a Canadian-PALESTINIAN.
>>2340061He's from Lebanon you stupid fuck
>>2340062>lying anti-Hera hater thinks he can fool ushttps://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Hera
>>2340060yeah you have to cheese it with millisecond precision.Run your army down and stop the first attack, while devoting your whole economy to stone/archers, while also sending villagers south/southeast to build outside their base. Get archery ranges and garrison towers with houses as walls but also building up a reserve force to go to the western edge of the map, just in case they attack thereI think it took me 2.5 hours of savescumming to get the perfect setpieceOr you can apparently just cheese it from the back https://youtu.be/V0wHbSoJcd0
>>2340007Hera would be Saracens.
>>2340007Yo would have 4 civs to choose from.
>>2340064I wish TheJeetmaster had a liquipedia page, we could put the question of his ethnicity to a conclusive end
>>2340040coolest civ desu
Muisca just sounds like some cheap spanish noodle brand
Is it based or cringe that aoe2 is the only strategy game I like?
>>2340087nah he just picks chinese, as lord Xi Jinping intended
>>2340054>hut on a hillwhy cant they just do some speculative architecture or something
>>234005420 treb shots btw
>>2340054Muisca castle looks like a vacation resort
>>2337561>Try to fight his vills with yours and not allow his TC to go up?Maybe you can get some kills but the tc will go up.>Delete your own TC and rebuild it elsewhere near stone in case you need to do it again?Costs a lot, go up to feudal get a few archers and make sure you have a lumber camp, maybe stall him out a little with repairs
>>2340051Even the spinoff civs are infinitely better than whatever AoE2 shits out. There's actual huge differences between them and not just one gay ass reskinned unit.
>>2340363>reparing a tc on dork ageWhere am I supposed to find the wood to outlast a persian TC, build a range and archers without the hope of even fletching with 10ish villagers?Woodstock tends to not work in online, you know?
since we are talking about persian douche, what exactly were the devs thinking when they gave persians that bonus? what strategy did they think it would it incentivize? honestly it seems like a lazy stat
>>2340413they were probably thinking it would primarily be used defensively
>>2340413>1999Probably lel we all gonna die from the y2k so who cares lmaoIn any case, I actually enjoy it existing.
>>2340414it doesnt really have any defensive use, unlike the byzantine bonus
persian douche fills a crucial role in the ecosystem of early aoe2: funny meme strat
>>2340427Is Cooman Douche a thing?
>>2340426>it doesnt really have any defensive use, unlike the byzantine bonusMakes it harder for a dark age/feudal rush to knock over your TC.
>>2340430you need like 25 MAA with the upgrades to take down a TC
>>2340426Defense = Offense. The amount of 4 lakes/cross games where a 2x HP dock survived a whole age annd shat out a lot of fires and you win the pond I've seen is relevant.As for TCs itself, yeah no idea.
>>2340434You must remember that the original devs were not actually very good at the game. Imagine that a lot of the design decisions were made by people who would struggle with the modern moderate AI.
>>2337561Do not garrison/repair, let your tc go down and try and sneak vills away. (dont delete like others here said, if your opponent has to garrison to kill your tc it idles their vills). Aim for archers + fletching even if it means delaying your next tc. It does not matter if your civ gets bad archers, your opponent can vill fight off other units. Once you get to a small mass of archers with fletching your opponent is fucked unless they can get to feudal themselves.Vill rushing down the vills constructing the tc only works against noobs who can't quickwall and bring too few vills to construct the tc safely.Don't spam outposts, its a waste of res and persian douche is not a common strat. Scout your enemy and if you see they are heavy on wood.Ideally your 2nd tc should be near gold and wood to make archers.Also do not make a tower as doing so will mean you will not have the stone for another tc and the douching player can just vill rush it down.
>>2340426It does, it makes it harder to kill the town centers which protect the vills, also makes it less risky to boom.
>>2340462This is good advice, thanks. I'll keep that in mind next time this happens to me.At ~900 elo tc drops are quite common.
>>2340134Sounds like Musica which makes me hope their civ theme is good.
>>2340853>inb4 pre-columbian cumbia remix
>>2340429Someone tried it on me once at ~900 Elo but it failed.
>>2340855>There's a chance they make a remix of the AoEII main theme for the DLC based on the new civs.I hope I'm wrong. That damn mapache horn is a fucking earsore.
>>2340429Takes too long to build the 2nd TC in feudal, it's really not worth it. You're better off ram-rushing them instead.
>>2340427In over 20 years playing this game I never saw a persian douche actually work.
>>2341289Viper once lost to Daut because of it.
>>2341289I've won hundreds of games doing it, it can work but most people do it very poorly.
>>2341311Viper losing is hardly news
Look, I love AOE 2, and I love additional content, and The Last Chieftains seems awesome. All that said, it seems unfortunate that, expansion after expansion, the AOE2 developers continue to neglect Africa as a setting while scraping the bottom of the barrel for additional European and, now, American civilizations.The Muisca and the Tupi are awesome, but they really weren't even somewhat equivalent technologically or organizationally to the Incas, Aztecs, and Mayans, let alone the colonial European powers at the time. But they are being incorporated into the game with a new architecture skin and bespoke campaigns that embrace their proud histories and South American identities.Contrast that with the three African civilizations: the Berbers, the Malians, and the Ethiopians. With the sole exception of the Malian campaign, their unique African identities are actually deemphasized in their campaigns (the Berber campaign takes place exclusively in Europe as part of what is generally known as "the Arab Conquest") and Ethiopian campaign has, as its PROTAGONIST, a historical figure whose whole schtick is destroying Ethiopia! And the Portuguese were added in the African Kingdoms expansion rather than a fourth African civilization. There are multiple advanced African civilizations that could be incorporated into AOE 2 and make abundant sense thematically, much more than a number of the new civilizations already added (like the Tupi and Muisca). In particular, the outstanding "household name" African factions: the Somalis, the Kongolese, and the Swahili. Even more astounding is the Somalis, the Kongolese, AND the Swahili all FOUGHT the Portuguese during the AOE2 timeframe. Including one of them would have been a no brainer. Similarly, medieval Ethiopia fought ALONGSIDE the Portuguese, but the AOE2 devs decided to have the campaign follow an Attila the Hun-type destroyer in the Axumite period rather than one of the famous Christian Ethiopian emperors
>>2341686You copied this from somewhere I bet
>>2341738Protip: Grab a random chunk of that shit and put it in google with quotation marks. Yes, it's leddit and as expected from leddit dey love dem kangzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/1r30u3r/africa_has_kind_of_been_shafted_by_aoe2_i_hope/
>>2341773>multiple advanced African civilizations
Sao civ added to African Architecture setEthiopia civ added to new East Africa Architecture setNew civs Swahili and Somali (replace with Oromo if too controversial)New camapign about the Oromo sweeping across Ethiopia and Andal. If not, a game about Ethiopia vs Yemens and others around the horn.
>>2341311Do you remember when that happened? I'd love to watch that game>>2341343What is your secret?
>>2341828Viper panicked and lost.I don't remember what tourney it was but it was a big one and it was right after Hera joined GL and the other GL boys made fun of Viper for it in Nelson's podcast.
>>2341828Should be the second game of this set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTKCDQSzuno
>>2340038>A shame the civs aren't playable in ranked desu.They need a separate ranked ladder.
>>2341834Thanks
Eh, I'd give for >West Sahel - Malians (Ghana/Mali/Songhai)>Central Sahel (Kanem/Bornu/Hausa)>West Jungle (Akan/Yoruba/Benin)>Central Jungle (Kongo)>East Nile (Nubia/Sudan)>East Africa - Ethiopians (Axum/Ethiopia) They already have good Nubian/Sudanese archers, so it's kinda redundant>East Coast - (Somali/Swahili)>Southeast - [Bantu] (Zimbabwe/Kilwa)
>>2341780For me, it's the "If they release x/y/z civs is only because they are selling out to that market. But if they release MY N'gongo Jigaboo favorite civs, then that's a genuine work!" nigger(s)
>>2341773Joke's on you, kid. I knew that already when I made my post. I said somewhere because if you name the site, your post gets filtered because it hurts the emotions of the people who use that website.>If you want to know who rules over you, just check who you can't criticize.~ Renee Descartes
>>2341873>Their unique unit = a black guy with a straw shield and sharpened wooden stick.>It's also their only unit.>Cannot get food from animals because they instantly die from tsun-tsun fly.Might as well add an Albanian civilization.
>>2341899Albanians can be included in Sclaveni with >Serbian gusar UU>Croatian naval UT for piracy and trade>Albanian UT "Skanderbergian Tactics" for reduced gunpowder damage
>>2341834>>2341832>"Here is a game where the Douche works">Ends in post-imperial anyway
I honestly think African architecture looks really good in AoE2 and I want more civs that use it.Completely different from real life but so is having Huns and Tupi in the game.
>>2341954Imp looks too similar to castle and the set as a whole is too monochromatic.
>>2340365The civs being largely samey is the draw of AOE in the first place.
>>2341923Sclaveni is a retarded name, they should be called Dalmatians and should have Stradioti as UU.>Balkan DLC>3 new civs (Vlachs, Serbs and Dalmatians)>Byzantine architecture set (Byzantines, Bulgarians, Serbs, Georgians and Armenians), Vlachs use EE and Dalmatians Med>The devs will never do it because it will mean revamping or removing Dracula which means they'll need to shit out 6 campaigns
I despide huns with a passion because they were the gateway into allowing meme shit in the gameeveryone always uses the "but in da old days we had hoons so its ok!"
>>2342015>Berserkers had regeneration so the Mapungubwe's unique units can have dodge, stun and aoe III's promotions system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-pNKxyDB1U
>>2342028god dammit SotL, i have to go out now, i wont be able to watch till night!
>>2342015At this point it's an entirely different game.
>>2342028ARE THE DEVS NUTS??
>>2342028>Tupi UT gives +5 (FIVE) poison damage to arbsI fucking knew it. Devs are giga fucking retarded. These things are absolutely fucking busted OP. Will be BY FAR the highest DPS archers in the entire game, with a large chunk of their damage being armor-ignoring. Garbage garbage GARBAGE
>Civ Themes Tupi : https://youtu.be/GK7kfABnsIg?si=5oO_qFMuK069hvcHMuisca : https://youtu.be/NYFrQ9zzmck?si=gAObsf-8yGNmgKVbMapuche : https://youtu.be/7mQZ8YylNfU?si=mt4D3XDzO9MVs8sM
>>2342034based, same here
>>2342081Kek the mapuche theme sounds nothing like mapuche "music" Thank goodness
cant wait now that the floodgate is open for the great north american dlc with the :>Beothuk/Skraelings>Proto-Pueblos>Mississipians
>>2341773What did he say bros?
>siege taxi nerfedDidn't think this anti-kino patch could get even worse but World Edge really outdoing xerselves this time.
>>2342081As expected the Muisca Musica is the best.
New civs look quite stupid with Elite Skirmisher and Arbalest now that every other of their units is unique.Also why are the Aztecs and Mayans still making the militia line?
>>2342128>why are the Aztecs and Mayans still making the militia linebecause of the equator.
>>2342128Add pikemen to that list too.
>>2342128>Also why are the Aztecs and Mayans still making the militia line?Non-FE civs don't get the wholesome chungus super special gimmicks
>>2342128You say it as if chompis were actually good.
>>2342145If they replace the eagle scout/scout cavalry, does that mean the sudakas are getting a pretty fast militia line?
>>2342146
>>2342147>not even a shield in dark age>still more base pierce than a fucking champion clad in full body armorlol
>>2342140>Persian savar and trashbows>Celt castle healing>Samurai charge attack>Chinese dragonboatsAnd so on
>>2342146no, sotl already tested them, they all lose to their militia line counterpart by like 15 to 30% hp
Yo, riddle me this.If the Southx Americanx civs were so overpowered, as AoE2 implies, how did they get FELTED by a one trick pony civ that implodes without its unique unit (Spanish)?
>>2342168Plague.
If it wasn't for Nurgle, the god of Spanish speakers, the brave naked guy with a stick or blowgun would have destroyed the weak boomstick and steel plate conqueror-wannabe.
Pretty wild to see minor civs from AoE3 get elevated into full civs. And the devs still have material to work with, like the Caribs or Zapotec.
>>2342177But first, we need +4 new Indian civs.
>>2342028>>2342081>>2342128>>2342147>>2342154I think I hate aoe2
>>2342179>he's not campaignpilled
but I want DLC about kings and khans, not indistinguishable spearchucker tribes reddit swears were more advanced then europe somehow
>>2342166They're faster so they don't need to take that fight.
>>2342169Conquistadors should deal Poison damage against these civs.
>>2342187And while they flee the enemy militia line go and disrupt you're eco.
>>2342190I see they're really into making units weak to the militia line so it can actually see use by other civs.
if i want to play aoe2 the way it was as i remember it whats the best option, just installing it from the discs? or is there a specific patch that is considered the 'best' for classic gameplay
>>23422251.0c
>>2342173>Nurglehe'll be available and playable next year in AoMtrust the plan
>>2342227ty
Lol mapuche champis wrek everything so much for cav and counter unit civ
>>2342182Not her, but I don't like many of the new campaigns. The Chronicles campaigns are projecting/inserting current year personalities too much, haven't even played the Chinese ones yet because why bother when I already played Romance of the Three Kingdoms so I know the general storyline (even tho the games I played had no story other than an intro + map description). I am even keeping the Duke campaigns on backlog because I heard they were the best ones, and they're the last pre-Chronicles campaigns I haven't played.
>>2342276>The Chronicles campaigns are projecting/inserting current year personalities too muchWhat the fuck did he mean by this?
>>2342269ornulu's test aren't reflective of realitymapuche champis will be kited really hard midgame, meanwhile tupi resource refund is going to translate really well across the game.I think muiscas have the best one after the unique tech. bonus speed is just so good for infantry.
>>2342301Yeah I know in practice they will be terrible but it's still funny.
>>2342042Wtf happened here
>>2342042Champions no longer counter trash then I guess
>the expansion actually adds new voice linesunprecedented attention to detail here
>>2342314To the Inca too? I always found it odd they were still using the 2 lines they got from age of empires 3 in 2005.
>>2342079Archers usually just one shot everything as a group anyway. Not going to be practical.
>the campaigns selections are in the three kingdom/chronicle styleso guess thats the standard from now on
>>2342042Is this supposed to make them better or worse?
>>2342317I don't know but the fact that the new civs get their own voice lines is crazy work.
>>2342328Where did you see it?
>>2342301>ornuluI thought I was the only girl who constantly misspells (or misremembers) Ornlu as Ornulu.
>>2342345ornlu video
>>2342128Just wait until the Tarascans are added, trust the plan.
Yoo Hera doing another drama video
So who's keeping the game afloat? People doing online PVP or casuals vs AI/coop? Or is it more even.
>>2342173Nah, we southamericans worship Khorne, it is Americans and Indians that worship Nurgle.
>>2342375it's both
>>2342375>So who's keeping the game afloat?people who actually buy the DLCs, completely irrelevant if they're 1500ELO sweatlords or casuals who play the campaigns on moderate once and don't touch the game again until the next DLC
last october you guys told me CaptureAge got shitcanned and we weren't getting more content out of them and no more chroniclestoday what do I see: AOM DLC's concept art was made by CaptureAge, their logo prominently displayed all over the artworkyou guys wouldn’t have happened to make all that up, would you? you wouldn’t just go online and spread lies you made up on the spot, would you?
>>2342395Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity
>>2342401sir, this is the telling lies maliciously website
>>2342410No, it isn't.
>>2342340slingers are with this a skirm that counters infantry
>>2342346Holy shit I had never noticed it wasn't ornUlu n all these years......
>>2342422>60% tax to bonus damage to become trash unitI'm pretty sure they were way better before.
>>2342422>slinger existence makes it so meso and south american civ trash wars between themselves becomes 100% skirmishers (counters both slingers and spears)
>>2342432Aztecs and Maya don't have slingers. And Mapuche destroys any of the other 3 in a full on trash war anyway with the HP bonus.
>>2342432I do wonder how bad a conqueror's era Aztec vs Maya trash wars were.I imagine Aztec wins by default if they have at least 2/3 relics but the Maya don't make it any easier.
>>2342432>>2342445meso don't usually reach trash war scenariothink of every long match video theres on youtube, how many of those have a meso civ? prob 0, certainly not the 1v1s
>>2342028All the foot archers get poison? Skirms and slingers too?
> description of new civ> first word is "fabulous"For any would be future colonizers: if you subjugate my nation, please just finish us off completely and wipe us from the annals of history, lest our memory become the object of fascination of some faggot who wants to milk another 20$ from customers of a 20 year old shi-ho-wololo game.
>>2342120>Players complain about stale archer and cav meta for years>devs do nothing>players get bored of stale meta and come up with new strats>the moment any of them become good or viable pro players complain>gets nerfed instantlyHow much longer will this go on for?When will we see shit like OP civs like persians, chinese, mongols, malay get nerfed?
I'll be skipping this DLC, I really don't care about random spear chuckers only added to the game to pander to Latrine Americansbut I am looking forward to the upcoming Rome themed Chronicles DLC!
I'm gonna insta-settlement the opponent's berries, go up to feudal first and then pump out spears and skirmishers and win like that every game
>>2342723>go up first>with 2 min idle timelol
>>2342726but enough about your dark ages!
>>2342726they can afford that, since the settlement is the only building they need to age up
>>2342486>meso don't usually reach trash war scenarioAgainst any non meso civ? I agree, they get drowned by LightCav/Hussar.Against another meso civ, tho? I don't see what's preventing it to get to trash war now, let alone back in the conquerors where 2/3 of the units and upgrades were shit, other than a gentleman's agreement.
>>2342734You forget that you need more than one settlement because it's also your house, and it's a damn expensive house at that.
>>2342757Don't these civs also have normal houses in addition to settlements? iirc you just need one settlement to advance to feudal which is kinda bullshit desu
>>2342758Ah you're right my bad.
All the SouthAm civs look like they struggle at Imperial
>>2342788Just like they did in real life. Wonder how low the win rate to game length can go.
>>2342427based
It's so exhausting to have the future of the game decided by AI-ddicted jeets and spics.>Nooo saaaar we wuz poison arrows and belt swords n shiiieeeet yuropoors are stupid evil irrelevant savagesOh well, at least their women are massive sluts with big asses, time to go play conquistador outside I guess, maybe they'll ask CoPilot to make a DLC where I'm the villain in 100 years
>>2342830>at least their women are massive sluts with big asse???
>>2342723you wont be able to stop my FC that way. Ill hit castle at at 14 minutes and then pump out unique units.
>>2342830The future is spanish, cuck
>>2342922>Missionaries will be able to carry relicsIndeed
>>2342939For once, I agree.Lets hope this stops the non-stop FC into conqs rush that is every match with a Spanish in the lobby
>>2342940I don't see how this changes anything. If anything it will probably be stronger now that you can contain the enemy with conqs and quickly get every relic with super fast missionaires which mean even more conqs.Are spanish now the most shadow buffed civ?
>>2342758settlement does the job of three and a half buildingswhich is stupid imo. they should have used my idea for tupi letting farmers drop off at lumber camps instead.
>>2342948>If anything it will probably be stronger now that you can contain the enemy with conqs and quickly get every relic with super fast missionaires which mean even more conqs.True, now that I think about it this will be the most likely case since, even if the devs buffs Spanish so much you're encouraged to do something besides conqs, the community is still conq brainrotted enough they will just keep rushing conqs and nothing will change. Maybe with exception at the highest pro level or arena clownery you could see some missionary all in shenanigans but that's all I could see happening.>Are spanish now the most shadow buffed civ?Probably but in the end it does not matter, Spanish is still: "Conquistadors: the civ"
Thoughts on the reworked farms? Horse collar etc will now affect existing farms retroactively.My initial thinking is this will benefit those who play aggressive openings, as they won't get as far behind in eco doing so. Don't know if it's good or bad.
>>2342995>Thoughts on the reworked farms? Horse collar etc will now affect existing farms retroactively.What? I thought it already did affect existing farms....
>>2342995I like it. It makes you less wood-bottlenecked, as you can just magic some extra food with Heavy Plow on your farms for just 125w and that gives you a bit of time to save more wood for the actual reseeding, even if it scales with remaining food % as I believe I heard? Having a few minutes to reshuffle sounds good to smooth eco.Also it makes Meme Rotation worth getting on time instead of being the forgotten eco tech.
>>2342995Makes economy upgrades a bigger priority, it shouldn't give you the full amount though that is just going to give players the incentive to pick it up as late as possible. Also it sort of nerfs Franks if everyone else can get the same wood savings.>>2343002>even if it scales with remaining food %Yeah that seems alright, say you have a bad food situation and get lamed and have to place down a lot of farms, you will still get the benefits of horse collar
>>2343006>sort of nerfs FranksLike that ever stopped the devs from doing anything.
>tupi player advanced to the Imperial Agewhat a concept
>>2342995I think it's a decent change, farm upgrades take too long to pay off so most players delay it until they have already clicked castle. Might give players more of a reason to research horse collar in feudal.
>>2343086Isn't Horse Collar like priority 0 on age up? If anything Heavy Plow and especially Crop Rotation are the odd eco updates out.
>>2343041Arguably it buffs franks as they can start adding farms in dark age and get them upgraded to horse collar farms instantly when they hit feudal. And upgraded to heavy plow farms if they are going fc.
>>2343087Horse collar pays off mid castle age, most pro players delay it. I've seen some only click it in imp or after bow saw.
>>2342723I think playing it like a berber vill rush with the healing or garrisoning settlement is going to be more viable. The settlements also seem to have a lot of hp so they might be tough to rush down.
>>2343091>Horse collar pays off mid castle age, most pro players delay it.Wrong. It completely depends on the strategy. But most will research Horse Collar before putting the first farm down. It's a huge bonus comes castle age. If you're going full military without horse collar, you have to kill in feudal or early castle age or you're dead. So when doing strats like MAA into Archers (into Crossbow timing) then you usually skip horse collar. Defensive spears/skirms and you always go for it.
>>2343114only sub 1k players delay farms to research horse collar, the res is better spent on military or even if you are doing defensive spear skirm researching it slows down your castle age, only time I would ever consider getting it before clicking castle is in long feudal or your civ has some kind of bonus for it i.e poles folwark, civs with discounted horse collar, sicillian farms, cuman boom ect.
>south american tribes for AOE2>Aztec for AOM>maybe aztec also with the VikingsYEAR OF THE LATINOS!
>>2343217>maybe aztec also with the Vikings for AOE4*
>>2343217>2025 was the year of pandering to the chinese>2026 is the year of pandering to latin americanswho are they pandering to in 2027?
>>2343226>implying we will live to see 2027lol
>>2343233Why wouldnt we live to see 2027?
>>2343226zulus playable in aoe3
>>2342995It's retarded and once again removes tradeoffs and decisionmaking from the game in favor of dumbing it down for retards and noobs.
>>2343350>It's retardedA bit too late when swords, arbalests and halberds and armor and bracers have been insta delivered to the units on the other side of the map from the blacksmith in your main base for 17 years.
>>2343469ah, you're retarded too
>>2343499Is it really that retarded when your sword's very atomic structure literally changes long range in an instant? Or your arrows suddenly grow feathers and a bit later change arrowhead shape, then eventually light on fire? Or you suddenly going from illiterate farmer given a xbow to being able to calculate ballistic trajectories on the fly?
>>2343217Glad to see you're still alive and making these
>>2343272>Resume support for AoE III>Is for adding another Nakongo N'gubi civ instead of the two civs they were already makingHa-ha... the Zulus in WoL were fun with their zerg larva-like mechanic at least
>new inca monk reuses the villager voice linesWhat was even the point of changing them, then?
Have you bought the pre-order? 15% off! FOMO!
>>2343680I don't even play the game I'm just here for new patch info and TTL/Londinium. Then I'll fuck off until the next S-tier.
I hope the DLC release won't ruin my offline cheevos again. I hate playing online.
>>2331787The front awaits you piggie
>>2343738Only took you 2 weeks of the 2 day special operation (almost year 4) to replySlavspleet when
>>2343729>I hate playing online.Autism
>>2343217Even with all the tons of steppe civs in AoE2, central asia is still pretty fucking empty.
>>2343803>wanting khitans 2, khitans 3 and khitans 4
>>2343809I don't want any new civs, in fact I want them to remove 3K civs instead. And Burgundians
>>2343809I'd settle for Tagut spleet and Tibet.
>>2343680Yes, I need the civs day 1, surely at least one of them will be op and I wanna gain some elo.
>>2343921Good luck winning in early castle in today's meta because none of the 3 have shit of worth in late castle or later.
Well, now that The Last Injuns is out of the way, which literal who tribe is being added with the next DLC?
>>2343942Either some north american feather indians or some subsaharans.
>>2343942The game is probably beyond saving if they ever get to the point of doing Polynesians.
>>2343947Meh, they were at least an actual civilization. My fear is that I can see them doing the australian abos or maori now, to "have everyone represented".
>>2343942Every "European civ" in this should be skipped. We have more than enough white people. None of the ones listed here which aren't already in AoE2 can compare to any of the colorful civilizations also listed here.
There are a lot of great African civilizations still not represented
>>2343965>Great
There are a lot of fabulous African civilizations still not represented
It was a travesty shoving the Portuguese into AFRICAN Kingdoms. Reparations must be paid.
>>2343975>t. Alberto Barbosa
>>2343946>some north american feather indiansI was going to say they already stretched it out too much with shit like the Mapuche and Tupi who never had castle-like fortifications (and their Wonders are a joke), but then again the new South American architecture from what I've seen looks like the four civs rolled into one, each present in one age, so I can see a bunch of indian (feather) civs ending up with Anasazi or Mississippian buildings by Castle/Imperial Age.
why is 4 so soulless?
>>2343986If 4 is soulless, how come I can spam 200 cheirosiphon for almost nothing and attack move them in line formation across the entire map, wiping out entire cities like a plague of locusts would a field of crops?
What's better for an eagle all-in, aztecs or incas?
>>2344021>incas>eagle
>>2343951That's really more AoE III territory as well, if at all, Maori actually put up some resistance while abbos never adapted. If World's Edge is still seething about having to cancel support for the DE release, then maybe those fuckwits should just remake the game in AoE II ala Return of Rome if not just doing a Chronicles.>>2343986>units than turn into other units on death up to three times>flying boats>amphibious tree man that predates Mirage Tanks>priest that rains thunderbolts>futuristic units with some spectacle>also some silly cheat that transforms the catapult ammo into cows or people>arguably a better car>toddler with a shotgun for some reasonLoved the AoE 1 cheat units.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JRpUavaukFriendly reminder that more resources are going into the mobile slop than to AoE III. The world is a fuck.
>>2344029>Arab champions>A Kurd>A Turk>A BabylonianClearly no resources in the historical department
>>2343942I know a guy who has played 150 hours since he purchased the game in 2023 (where 80% of those hours are romans/georgians), and he says this is a good thing.
>>2343942I think Zapotec and TarascanZapotec get the Lightning Warrior from AoE3, don’t know what elseTarascan are Archer/Blacksmith civArbalest in Castle AgeBlacksmith infantry techs apply to Archery Range units10% faster wood gatheringDon’t know an UU, could go crazy and have be a boat.One UT to refer to their long-range trade relationsMaybe the other for their fusion of desert Barbarian (like the rest at of CentralMexico) and local nobility. Possibly a speed increase or range rate of fire.
>>2344041That one section doesn't make sense since heroes in that game have nothing to do with civs and come from a gacha. Hell, last time I checked civs in that crap are a couple of bonuses and a different architecture set/unit skins, no unique units or tech trees (since is yet another RoK clone but with realistic artstyle)
>>2344029>Arab Civilisation>an Ottoman Sultan>a Persian King of Kingskek you can almost feel the turks and iranians ripping their hair out over this trailer
>>2344041>the historical departmentnon-existentCaptureAge are clearly the only devs who still care about historical accuracy and they're too busy making Age of Mythology content
>>2343981So they do have mining and lumber camps, what about mills?
>>2343942I personaly want Pechenegs, Finns, Inuits, Iroquois and Toltec.
>>2343942The only civs that are imo relevant enough and unique (and so not encompassed by another civ) for the timeframe would be the Vlachs and the Nubians. Pechenegs, Vandals and Khazars would be interesting, but they were short lived (but then again, so were the Huns). The Swiss and Tibetans would be cool too, I think.
>>2344046We need a custom civ maker. That tourney a few years back was kino.And a mugen bullshit tier arms race would be also cool
>>2344090>We need a custom civ maker.>Check the civ maker site>Is still downGoddamnit all. And just when I finally found the template for the civ icons.
so, with the latest inclusion of literally whos, when will we get the best civilization ever in the history of world: the United States of America?it's within the timeline more than 3chinkdoms.
Why do so many people claim to be anti-meta players and then just play bog standard meta? Like i saw some guy on twitch calling himself anti meta and he was just doing mongol archers every game and another guy i knew just goes portugese castle drop on arena (not even all in) and complained that everyone was playing meta.
>>2344107Almost like meta is a meaningless word.
>>2344085Vlach are EE architecture with PasturesDon’t know what else besides some meme units around vampires.
I have been watching a lot of grubby. I never realized how much of a tilter he actually is
>>2344116>Voivode, which heals itself by a portion of the damage dealt
>>2344091use the fork, my friendcivbuilder.velarix.space/
>>2343942>AiunusHeh>>2343986>why is 4 so soulless?I really hate the bland, "clean", muddy, dark and soulless look they went for with 4 too. Absolutely zero color
>>2344123Was really funny a couple of days ago when he looks up a web page with automatic analysis of his gameplay style. Needless to say he did not approve of it displaying "Tilts easily. Chases losses"
>>2344212Not him, but:
>>2343942>The Old Khans>Finns, Tavastians, Karelians, LappsMore technologically advanced than the Tupi mudhutters, more ethnically and culturally distinct than the 3 ChinkdomsThere is NO reason not to add them
>>2344085>>2344116I'll repost my ideas>Pastures>Archer/ Counter civ>Good archers, spears, skirms, hussars and monks, but crap militia, navy, siege, towers/ defenses and mediocre knights>UU has bonus against heavy cav and gunpowder, maybe a foot or horse archer (they had a neat 2H wooden mace, maybe as a unique upgrade for militia line?)>UTs focus on unconventional defenses (fear tactics/ ambushes/ scorched earth), maybe enemy units take DOT or increased damage near your buildings, maybe archers get a charge attack equivalentThe idea is to have very few viable gold options but to be able to counter most things though not easily, that way you can't really be aggressive unless you take really good trades.
>>2343942The only problem here is having Han as a substitute civ for Chinese instead of them coexisting.
>>2344248>Not burmese +attack, aztec +attack AND khitan double attack value from upgrades
>>2344248I think I would prefer Forced Levy rather than Garlands. Who cares about a bit more damage when you can spam FOREVER.And it allows you to get Barbed Axe in Castle.
>>2344107>Why do so many people claim to be anti-meta players and then just play bog standard meta?because they want to win so they have to play meta, but they wish they didn't have to to win. This really isn't a hard concept to understand
>>2344469Every single time I play Malay I win by elephants late castle/early imp and can NEVER spam two handers, it's so sad.
>>2344458All of that just to die against archers regardless.No, tanky power spikey infantry is the way to go
>>2344469Just like the other anon said, Forced Levy rarely becomes relevantYou're better off having better gold intensive infantry, and intensive is kind of a lie considering militia-line costs 20 gold
>>2344489>Forced Levy rarely becomes relevantYou aren't playing this civ vs ranked civs m8.At least in the last custom civ tournament games easily went for hours and hours as the civs, even if the epitome of one trick ponies, are so hyperoptimaxxxed it's hard to beat them even with you having the perfect counter.
>>2344248>double armor>double attack>viking health>celt speed>goth discount>japanese attack speed>wheelbarrow & handcart free>Kshatriyas>Forced Levy>barracks work 20% faster
>>2344505If only Forced Levy was in castle...Imagine Forced Levy + Perfusion
>>2344508You could replace Force Levy with Perfusion and just rely on giga halbs when the gold runs out with 12 attack, 72 HP, 5/6 armor, 1.32 speed with +33% attack speed that costs 17 wood 18 food.
>>2331411AOE2 esports:>spend 30 minutes watching villagers gather resource and some minor harassment>the ultimate final battle is fought with 10 knights and 1 catapult>most games don't even go to that stage as players just get harassed to death>that's the entire gameWhy the fuck do people watch or play this shit?
>>2344552>Minor harassment>harassed to deathWhich is it?
>>2344552Why are you watching sub 100 elo tourneys?
>>2344532I doubt you can win in those settings with what are kinda longswords.What would the champs look like?
>>2344558Death by a thousand minor harassments.
>>234458422 attack, 84 HP, 6/8 armor, 1.27 speed, +33% attack speed for 26 food and 14 gold without forced levy and either 40 food or 36 food depending on how the game stacks discounts. Hell, could be down to 31 food. Also, by going with the above, the halb would be 14 attack and 6/7 armor, and might be slightly cheaper food wise.Also, if health, speed and attack speed were traded for Malian armor, Burmese attack and Teuton armor we could get 25 attack, 70 HP, 8/11 armor, and 1 speed champs instead.
>>2344729God it's so annoying how all the good inf UTs are in imp. Fereters, Levy, Garlands, Perfusion.
>>2344736Wonder if Burg Vineyards in castle are able to cover the gold costs and avoid Levy.
Ok, I have decided.I am NOT preordering AoE2 Latinx Civ DLC. I will maybe get it when it's on 20% off on Christmas sale. 15% is not enough for me.
>>2345079It's really not, I bought entire games for cheaper.
>>2344736Especially for infantry. Archer and cavalry civs get plenty of castle age UTs.
its time
A shame the civs seem like dogshit. I really wanted to see T90 seethe about how the new civs ruined his meme tourney.I doubt the naval rework or the minor exta tweaks will have any impact.
>>2345437>A shame the civs seem like dogshit.Dunno mate, they look actually decent to me
>New regional garrison flag graphics>New civilization-specific flags for waypoints and gather pointsHuh
>>2345450>A fucking umbrelllalmao
>>2345453ella ella e e e
Heras preview of the Mapuche is just him seething about the devs for 30 minutes
Can you build a blackwood archer pair at 199.5/200 pop (as in losing only one while maxed)? Was expecting Ornlu to test that but it seems he missed that edge case.
>>2345450Roman eagle mogs every other flag
>>2345507>make new DLC overpowered so autistic competitivefags HAVE to get it>nerf it as soon as new overpowered DLC releasesgenius
>>2345513>new overpowered DLC releasesI reserve my judgement until stats.
>>2345488>all the sudden hera is not invited to tournaments or getting dlcs early
>>2345518Can't beat him? Exile him.
>>2345488Any person in their right mind would do the same.
>>2345603t. Hera
>>2345603>moved from canada to argentina>right mind
>>2345618Argentina is based and the only good country in the american continent
>>2345450
>>2345452
>>2345450Is that a swastika?
>Mixedit's so over...
>>2345642so true xister, glad that they added mapuche for us
>>2345732>>2345729>That mysterious/unused flag>Looks nordic as hellNORDICSPLEETBROS?!
>>2345753The Mapuches are from ChileWe killed almost all our natives, see:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Campaign_(1833%E2%80%931834)
what the fuck?
>>2345789kek had the same shit happen when i launched , some fucking intern fucked up
>>2345789Gratz anon!And enjoy you're 3 day vacation
>>2345799>And enjoy you're 3 day vacationWhat did he mean by this
>>2345801GR15
>>2345802kek
>>2345802ohfucking kekGood, ponies are based
based
>>2345853>the who and the who, carapalida?
>>2345789You can use Steam Achievement manager if you realy care
>>2345776the rally point one is more than likely an early draft of the lithuanian one (symbol is very similar) they kept in the screenshot for some reasonthe viking garrison is just sad that its left unused when it was bassicaly made for them
>>2345855You laugh now but just you wait in 300 years Roca will launch its conquest of the desert and the chileans will pacify you for good.
>>2346085Based RocaShame he didn't finish the job
>>2346090One day someone will finish what he started.
>>2345853This language triggers me
>>2346091Doubt it
>>2346085>and the chileans will pacify you for goodI thought they were still active down there, chimping out at random forestry workers/farmers acting like tough guys and running away whenever the local gendarmerie shows up
mapuche skirms seem pretty insane
Playing through all the campaigns on hard, am I crazy or does Attila feel like a step up difficulty wise from the original AoK ones? It's not impossible but the AI feels more aggressive
>adding voice chat in 2026>no push to talk option
>>2345853Is this that millenial writing I heard so much about?
>>2346251how does something like this happen?
>>2346113As in? Immortal because of the extra HP, or the passthrough, both, neither?
>>2346263>"I can be your right-knife man, Lautaro"Mcu-tier quips in the 16th century
So, how much more bad is water nao?
>>2346699It's better now, galleys don't beat every unit anymore
any relaxed one hand player here
>>2346972Relaxed? Far from it, these new campaigns are pretty challenging
>>2346972>ai generated reddit meme
fucking LOL at the new dlc being marketed literally as 'resist le colonizer!' how do you cucks cope?
>>2346972Bold to assume I even touched ASSFAGGOTS in the first place
