As always, /tno/ updates more reliably than TNO itself.https://gofile.io/d/zAJ2RV - Full DV leak repository. Proposal, charts, maps.https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasLands - Leaked build footage. Nearly finished and scrapped Italy, very unfinished Germany/US reworks and more.https://space.bilibili.com/385529615/upload/opus - BiliBili leak video repository.https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png - Bormann TNO2 flowchart (never releasing).https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal. Read all about this hot new TCT mod.https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December 24 roundtable notes. Germany never.https://files.catbox.moe/zo5zhk.pdf - Post-Antarctica 25 roundtable notes. Bleak.https://files.catbox.moe/9320n5.pdf - Japan rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/chzsvc.pdf - Japan Funada Design Doc.https://files.catbox.moe/beh76f.pdf - France proposal. Nearly 200 pages, fucked by DV.https://files.catbox.moe/omzl7q.png - France flowchart. Resistance is dead.https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden proposal. Dev has finally stopped posting here.https://files.catbox.moe/ycctp0.png - Sweden flowchart. We lost Pakt Sweden for this OTL-fest.https://files.catbox.moe/egf8m0.pdf - Charlemagne Insurrection proposal. Cut.https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: A dev is made to justify why his own proposal got cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov "facelift" document. The first leg in the now confirmed Komi rework.https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Three years in dev hell, still no release date.https://files.catbox.moe/vdpi8k.pdf - Red Italy proposal. Rest in peace, you were too good for this mod.https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th (?) space race mech rework mockup.
>>2332521https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Vote Pig Nixon tree.https://files.catbox.moe/xkpm9x.png - VP flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP Hawaii crisis.https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - VP Reuther tree.https://files.catbox.moe/sl8afo.jpeg - VP Wallace tree.https://files.catbox.moe/r8c6i3.jpg - VP Goldwater tree.https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - VP Schlafly path. Peak evil Republican fascism let's go!https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - VP Yorty tree.https://files.catbox.moe/3v5h8h.pdf - Leaked Yorty Doc. Exactly what you'd expect from mango.https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP 2024 partial rework leak, Republicans weren't evil enough.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP 2025 events leak.https://files.catbox.moe/wc3nax.png - Hall flowchart. Go left-liberal or get a fail state.https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.https://files.catbox.moe/71ilh5.png - Central America design.https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - 200p wall of text about Colombian soccer mechanics.https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf - Iberian Wars rework document.https://files.catbox.moe/5anjuv.png - 5 new Caribbean nations flowcharthttps://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.https://files.catbox.moe/ptvdb1.pdf - Old Indonesia proposal.
>>2332521>>2332522>REWORK REVIEW>TNO fails to release a compatibility patch as the mod enters its third month of being unplayable.>All leaked internal estimates for the Iberia rework's release have been missed.>An Amur build leaks onto BiliBili: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17ek5ByEob/?spm_id_from=333.1387.upload.video_card.click>TNO:RA updates to the newest DLC!>Rises Again also rediscovers the cut pre-release India content, pledge to restore it.>TNO:R also updated to work with the newest DLC, says that Berezniki will be their next major release.>AMPU, the leaked US proposal for TNO:R, is ditched and turned into a submod.>TFO teased some Chinese content they're working on?>PNO is working on Squidward content; unironically more interesting than TNO.>Some YouTube drama came, went, and was redirected from TNO to GWR in under a week.>Mango got into some nothingburger Discord fight that somehow lead to a LARPy silencing campaign.>Ashley resurfaces; pledges to report TNO to MSS for supporting Manchurian separatism.>LEAKED BUILDSDon't let them erase history.2018: https://mega.nz/file/nRhmFShK#rjgJXFH5fh7Y9tfIxtH47YuuOOeJhylhrcJfujCdgcg2021: https://gitlab.com/IllyaTokar/git-days-of-europe2022: https://gitlab.com/retardedsolutions/git-days-of-europe/2023:https://mega.nz/file/bBFGHZJT#a4lNsnLLzHWHG1iic5yHwgL1kK1VAE5qmT2Iqi7k2EM - Hotline Manchukuohttps://mega.nz/file/TIMmVBKC#939MhfLfR3G0UQdenlK0R5AY54x8lGlnSs42H8BzHhw - Illusions Endhttps://mega.nz/file/SBtSmZAD#CDYh4s4SBz3GjvBSOjOpQ4RnGgaDhnq39ehNTVFzbhs - Penelopes Webhttps://mega.nz/file/CZt1CZwa#O0Yfzil-VqfJBwH_yuWvGkbDK5XF7DG5iM7rdO-rqdg - Germany Branchhttps://mega.nz/file/SJ0HjDrC#jeTd9dcOuCeNpAZvrM_tFJjaSKjWLhVpSibBVqj_eWg - Shifting Tides
I should write a fanfiction set in TNO's Ethiopia.
Any more Yippie leaks recently?
>>2332606Keep in mind that the Italian Fascists had a song dedicated to Bleaching Ethiopian and Somalian girls
>>2332637A wasted effort, Trust me if they actually knew what somalis looked like they would march straight back to rome
So it turns out that Error Log, the guy who lost a debate to Mango, is actually the alt of a friend of LoreDad, a HOI4 YouTuber and former Kalter Krieg developer. The channel is completely astroturfed and this explains why LoreDad propped up EL since day one. There's more on KF including Error Log praising himself on Discord so have fun with that.
>>2332642So basically every hoi4 drama is a bunch of retards baseding out at each other?
>>2332647fucking janny autocorrect, I meant fagging
>>2332636Its in fine tuning so probably something new soon, that usually means dev info is more open to see
Oh ffs he's starting with that shit again
>>2332670just ignore him, why would you even acknowledge him, are you retarded?
>>2332522> Keeping the fake gus hall flowchartFaggoted thread, wont be using this
>>2332647Yeah, pretty much. It's all fake.>>2332673The guy that called it fake in the last thread provided no proof of his claims. If you know it's wrong, post the real deal and the baker will change it in the next thread.
>>2332640Somali girls tend to look quite pretty, actually. Especially compared to the men.
>>2332683It's straight up just the schlafly flowchart with words changed around, it talks about the old lore for how hall gets elected instead of the new one in the yippie flowchart, it also uses the old portrait in the vote pig doc instead of the new. How are you possibly so retarded as to believe this, send me your skull you subhuman you need to be analyzed for scientific purposes.
Why do you hate Uk flowchart :(https://files.catbox.moe/dn6eha.pngSecond bake without it
>>2332920>>2332521>BAKER HEREI must've tested it when Catbox had a brief hiccup or something earlier today because the link didn't load for me so I assumed it was broken. It loads just fine now so I'll make sure to include it in the next bake and I also tagged the OP to give your post more visibility.
>>2332521The DV leaks link is broken
>>2332942Should've gone with MEGA. That's the second one the TNO devs have taken down. But to be fair you can figure out most routes by checking their Wiki page's history section.
>>2332637Both the protagonists I have in mind are girls, but one of them is far older than the other. I just don't know if I want to make the Ethiopian or the Italian the older one.
Hi Nicola, I know you're in this thread. Stop roleplaying as Requiem devs, you retarded sperg.
>>2332521>that picChrist in heaven it's beautiful. Yours, I presume?
>>2333070It's probably not Nicola but one of the former devs that left in the split. I think he's more of a Discord seether. Besides he seems to be far more angry at TFR by a mile.>>2333073He credited it over Mango's grave.
>>2333074why are people angry with TFR? it's a mod that actually releases content, I'd think everyone would be sucking their dick. Compared to this dead mod, their updates are inspiring.
>>2333080envy
>>2333080They started working on TFR about the same time as realism clique took over TNO. They did the "TNO style and feel" better than the nuTNO itself and made vastly more contetent and all TNO has to show is Fiji skeleton, Mexico demo, Brazil demo and Ukraine demo.No wonder TFR poached TNO player base.
>>2333080Plenty of reasons but most of the seethers are mad about it being politically incorrect and "not serious". "It's a chud mod". You get the idea. Meanwhile most of us just want to have fun so they can just sit there and be miserable if they want.
This joke of you namefagging as devs of mods you don't like got old when you started to do it a full year ago.
>>2333245Dont respond to him.This time its extra ironic anyway because it insinuates that listening to your players is le bad
Did 4chan add namefag protection by adding identifiers?
Seems they didnt and that guy just has a random string of shit in his name now, wouldve been too great to be true
>>2333284It's a trip code. It's an old way of identifying yourself since the original 2chan days. Anyone can just use them so they're about as insecure and explorable as they get and only morons think they mean anything.
>>2333286Fair enough, I didnt use 2chan and only really know them from basedjack anyway.And yeah they are insecure as sin, I mean you can just use two different devices and get around any IP and MAC restriction anywhere too.Wouldve been somewhat cool regardless to atleast make the spam slightly less constant
Trying to make the old TNO music mod (Last Waltz of Europe) work with Requiem and it's a fucking pain. At first TLWOE simply doesn't show up and is replaced with the default TNO soundtrack. I change a line of code it appears but it's without any songs. I change another line of code it breaks both TLWOE and the TNO Sountrack.I fucking hate coding.
>>2333305Surely if you ask the Requiem devs for help you'll get some?
>>2333311It's alright. I just remade the music mod from scratch and it works fine. I believe it was because both mods had the designation "tno_music" so I just changed that to "tno_tlwoe"Time for some Rodzaevsky Gaming.
very trustworthy sources tell me that some content is coming out soon and it's not actually the africa update. well... "soon", it depends, you know how TNO works. But i am certain Africa rework isnt coming as the next update.
>>2333397we know about spain
>>2333398they also doing shit for america it seems
>>2333397is there any chance at all they rollback the africa changes, or do they at least understand, after their nonsense britain demo rework, that they need to release the same if not more content than they are removing?
>>2333402no
>>2333397>Very trustworthy sources >He's basically quoting from the Iberia toozer from last month
>>2333406suck a fat one
>>2332642>former Kalter Krieg developerThat's unsurprising.
>>2333397youre a retarded autist
>>2333399From what i know its in fine tuning now, which means mango for all his flaws is still better than Lamfag and his eternal rework reich
Any news on what Requiem is doing?Is Tsars and Soviets being tested yet?What will the update be after thatWhat are they working for Quality of Life and bugfixes?Are there any lolcows like Mango at Requiem? I'm new to the mod and want to know as much as possible.
>>2332521Why my nigga Crow is doing here? Blud died 3 times already
>>2333411Iberia has been in fine tuning since last September or something so you might not want to celebrate just yet. Although yes, it's probably doing better than the German rework.>>2333425Their next release is supposed to be be Berezniki a new Russian unifier. After that I think they're doing fixes across Russia but I'm not sure. Most QoL and fixes they've done has been fixing the combat and economy is a bunch. They don't really have any big lolcows though. Five was a bit of one early on with his many announcements before the others reined him in but that's pretty tame. They also had a lead named Jeff that ragequit one day, leaked mostly TNO documents to "own" them and did all of this under his real account. But that was over as soon as it started. Surprisingly, orienting your mod around gameplay instead of politics seems to help here.Hope that helps.
>>2333489Pretty sure the impersonator faggot showed up malding at Requiem leads in these threads for the first time after Jeff embarrassed himself. How coincidental...
>>2333513Nah it happened before that tooEspecially right before Requiem announced the name change there was alot of namefagging going on.
>>2333079Counterpoint there's actual content for the other mods to put in an OP for the general so you don't need anyone to make joke images for it.>>2333513Jeff had nothing to do with that. Like the other anon said it predates him having anything to do with the team and when he did attack them he used his real Google Drive and Discord accounts to do so. After that fiasco he promptly vanished from the HOI4 community.
>>2333517>>2333515Fair enough. >>2333425If you want the scoop on Requiem look at the questions they ask in their poll channel. Such as questions about raiding, air force balance, 2wrw balance, their new Infantry Fighting Vehicle unit class, armoured cars, which US presidents should be replaced, takeout trees yes or no, polls about multiplayer stability, and regional difficulty balance.Oh and an example of a modernized Petlin portrait and asking if it's better than the old one.Seems to me like they are working on all of that behind the scenes and polling the community for feedback
>>2333560>Giving the plebs a say
>>2333560*Fakeout trees tho if there is a hoi4 tree that will give deliver Chinese to my house I'd call that a worthwhile innovation to modding
When will they fibally give France content in this piece of shit mod fucking hell
>>2333655Never. It was reworked again because of DV. Enjoy your shrunken skeleton.
>>2332521
No, but seriously, what the fuck were you thinking when they decided to integrate DV? It ruins the South African War, Germany's lore, France's lore, the UK's lore all to add content to some random shitholes no one cares about.Is there at least still a shot of Manchukuo coming out?
>>2334227In the latest thread some anon (take that with a grain of salt, of course) said that the Manchuria dev is stalled
>>2334235TNO has manged to make me lose the ability to be disappointed.
>>2334227>DVLiterally just nepotism. The person making it is friends with Mango & Co so therefore it gets included and now a huge chunk of the mod is destroyed and has to be reworked. Many such cases.
>>2334227>>2334249 (me)Reminder that they knew that DV integration would completely fuck over all existing content but ultimately didn't let that get in the way of OTL slop.
Threadly reminder that we're losing the WAW for this.
>Replacing WAC and SAW with that nothingburgerI fucking hate nudevs so much it's unreal.
>>2334416>maybe 2 regions moving to one side or the otherHoly shit you can't be serious
>>2334416This is satire. I refuse to believe this is sincere, but that's a really well done parody of the nuTNO team
>>2334475It's a real toozer for DV.
>>2334250>>2334416being serious, whats their plan here? all the toozers look like garbage compared to stuff being put out 5 years ago, let alone the mods people keep churning out now. is it even worth developing the mod if its just a parody of updating irrelevant parts of the map while they keep removing content? what the fuck is going on
>>2334537They do it because they hate the mod they hijacked and the userbase they inherited. Once you understand this and the fact that they just want to retell historical events it all makes sense.>"Why not make their own mod from scratch then?"Because then they'd be a worse and more irrelevant Kalterkrieg.>"But it's worse."If you care about TNO and HOI4 gameplay. If all you want to do is to write about historical socialist politics and anti-colonial struggles in Africa in the 60s, then it makes sense, doesn't it?
is there any news on the uk? is that team even alive anymore? I know all of italy dev is dead and gone, but they released the britain demo so you'd hope something would be happening
>>2334559It's presumed dead.Most of the people that actually got the demo made are gone and only Frost remains. Considering his track record, there's a pretty good reason to assume that it's just completely dead.>Mango made him co-lead on day one of his ascension>Never made anything everShocker.
So I played the requiem south africa and I gotta say I wasn't impressed. The ANC and Boers have no content and the game ends after the war. There were like 5 focuses for each outcome of the war which was nice but not enough. I didn't really care for 70% of the events which the game bombarded me with. It suffers from the same design flaws as the base TNO. It spends too much time polishing a tiny time period and blueballs you at the end. If the writing was spread out between different paths and longer scale it would've been good but I don't want to read 100th event about people I don't know doing stuff I don't care about. Even in visual novells you get to make choice and different routes have different content so this is not a critique of VN in HOI4 but of how this VN is implemented
>>2335163Makes sense sense the mod tries to be a compromise between 2024 TNO and old TNO. Doesn't mean it always hits the mark. Play Rises Again instead, it's probably more up your alley. Hopefully with time Requiem sees the writing on the wall and moves further away from TNO's design philosophy instead of just putting the brakes on their bad reworks.
>>2335208RA suffers from another problem which is lack of effort and very low production quality. I think there's something both sides need to learn from eachother. Requiem needs to spread it's wings and move on instead of polishing old piece of demo content from 2020 and RA needs to concentrate on a single country instead of making 400 sloppy paths scrapped together from unfinished code.
>>2335306Don't you mean the other way around? But yes if so I agree that both mods can get better. I hope they will eventually. At least RA has the excuse of being a solo project and honestly even if they don't always deliver at least they aren't aggressively self destructing like TNO is.
>>2333397actually soon? or Soon™
Morocco toozer dropped, Iberia soon?
>>2332606
>>2336086They dropped an Iberia toozer last month too, it doesnt mean shit
>>2336086That's nice, but can we have a toozer for the compatibility patch next?>>2336152It was supposed to release in late December. It's Brazil all over again.
>>2336086If the toozers keep dropping than maybe.
Any news on the IJA, IJN and Japanese Airforce?
>>2336187>He believes in toozers by these people>>2336199All the latest leaks are in the OP but it's pretty much assumed that Sphere development is practically dead.
>>2336206you unlocked a memory in me lmao, when i still was waiting for Moskowien, what a time!
>>2336199the manchuria team is the same as Guandong, so they'll take a long time but the content is garanteed to be good
>>2336230What a time, when there was still hope for this piece of shit. But hey at least Micronesia will be historically accurate soon.>>2336233This is just factually wrong. Several key people from the Guangdong team are gone and the head of the Manchuria team is Yugo. He's OK according to thread consensus but it's a completely different crew and years after people were optimistic.
>>2336241really? didnt know, i guess we're not getting Manchuria either
>>2336143This is Muti's dark vision for Italy.
>>2336206We need a Redux that has all the pre-release kino that never happened. Indiana Josias, Farouk's Wild Ride, Iraqi Murder Mystery, COOL, Meinhof...
>>2336605>Indiana JosiasKino. Insane how we went from that to a generic Muslim collaborator regime led by apolitical opportunistic strongmen or whatever generica Lamounier wanted to turn it into. If you can find their design docs I'm sure the Rises Again dev wouldn't mind implementing them. That seems to be his mission in life, picking up the gold nuggets that the devfags throw into the garbage bin and winning big.
>>2336086Notice how they’re using the old Algeria borders? Looks like dv is going to be a standalone update rather than a bundle which is gay
>>2336709Nothing special about it, tho. Last summer's Iberia teaser mentioned Burgundy in like half of its events, even though we know it's on the chopping block.
>>2336522Honestly, of all the things that TNO toozed over the years the Italy stuff still pisses me off the most.Scorza was one of the first playthroughs I did when the mod first released and I really enjoyed it, and when they announced 4 successor Duces I was incredibly hyped.>Imperialist Balbo>Securocrat Pavolini>Futurist Muti>Mystic GianiWe got none of that. Nada. Nil. Italy had content removed from it and I can guarantee that if anything was coded for Fascist Italy in the first place they scrapped it all by now.
>>2336792We actually know for a fact that it was started and scrapped several times. Yes, several. It's even more reworked than you think.
>>2336794It looked so interesting...
>>2336811From my knowledge The duces are basically unchanged policy wise, They just needlessly expanded their trees and added minigames
>>2336835We got leaks last year proving otherwise. Germany and Italy weren't enemies any more but more skin to competitors that respected each other's boundaries. This makes the choice of Duce matter less and locks in their forpol when the original plans were more dynamic. Another victim of Germany's plot armor really.
>>2332606*Correntia
When’s yippie supposed to come out?
>>2336904In their Twitter announcement of the US rework last summer, they stated 'next year'. Highly unlikely, given how notorious this joke of a mod is at releasing updates (and especially those with full content, the last one we saw almost three years ago with Silicon Dreams)
Somebody drop the full Hubert Humphrey tree already.
>>2336904November this year, possibly coinciding with the midterms for maximum cringe.If you actually believe this I have a bridge to sell you.
>>2336976A fag in the last thread had It and reagan but only posted the intro for reasons. Ill never understand these fucking people
>>2336844speaking of foreign policy in the region, The geo politics of italy’s sphere is actually pretty interesting. They have a monopoly on middle eastern oil along with control of global trade via the Suez. The italians would be making so much money from their oil revenues alone that massive infrastructure investments and social safety nets are not a financial burden. Their only real competitors in terms of oil production are the americans since the Germans don’t export their oil considering they only have baku and iran and the japanese have so little they just prefer to buy italian.
>>2337029I think it's to insult the devs. There was one that had the Schorner doc, said it was just a gutter Goring, and posted tidbits proving it while saying it was shit and that Lamounier was a fag. "It's not even worth leaking" seems to be a new thing for team members.
>>2337037The only things the italians really worry about is the turks taking a bit of that oil revenue, The germans can’t really get a piece of the oil other than backing iran and its interests. If anything the germans probably don’t compete with italy in the middle east but in africa over algeria and french africa’s abundant uranium reserves
>>2337043>The germans can’t really get a piece of the oil other than backing iran and its interestsThis is what the Oil Crisis and backing the Ba'athists is for.Shame the devniggers want to de facto remove it.
>>2337058Hans! Why the fuck would we support arab socialists?>They hate kikes and want to give us some of the oil.5 billion reichsmarks to egypt!
>>2337355Ba'athists used to be NatSoc in game until some retarded communists on the team whined about blackwashing minorities.
Is literally no minor country capable of earning any amount of profit except via decisions and the only way to stave off debt is to conquer new lands? The fuck were they thinking with this economy system?
>>2337394Former dev here. There were people on the team that wanted you to be able to be able to construct buildings that'd contribute to your growth. All of these ideas were shot down by Lam (the code lead) with only the infrastructure contribution to growth sneaking its way into the mod. If the gameplay gang had it their way you'd have equivalents to the office buildings in TFR except they'd also contribute to your development growth too depending on what you built. This refusal to let you (or the AI) directly impact the economy is why almost all countries without focus trees constantly get into debt crises and it's also why they have to bolt on a new economic mini game in every update.tldr one man's bad decision ruined the economy system and made every update take 10x longer to make.
>>2336844>>2337037Removing the rivalry between Germany and Italy would be such a braindead decision. It would be such an interesting setup to have Italy become the fourth superpower and leverage its oil wealth to finance proxy wars. The oil crisis would even work perfectly as an existential threat to them in the late game.Removing the rivalry also makes Germany's geopolitical situation less interesting as Italy aligning against them would be the most immediate threat against them that doesn't come from inside the Reich.
>>2337403I normally do not post here, however just to give some insight into what affects atleast the initial gdp generation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BuZjdllxc5mWEgeGicrledfjI0-NSGMGtrzE3BOVsdI/edit?usp=sharingThis was made by a Requiem Dev btw
>>2337404I think italy and the reich are still rivals, At least by current lore it’s just that the italians still begrudgingly trade oil and industrial goods with the germans. also I think italians encourage jewish settlement in palestine which I definitely don’t think the germans like. By my reckoning they seem to be rivals who begrudgingly tolerate one another and try to keep out of each others hair until the oil crisis
>>2337432>Keep out of each others way until the end of the planned reworked content that's been in dev hell for half a decade Might as well be neutrals that pretend the other doesn't exist with how much impact it'll have. It's also completely retarded of them not to allow them to even try to improve their odds when the crisis hits.Total TNO L.
>Remove Atlantropa>Be forced to rework all of Italy and all of the Triumvirate because its entire reason for existing is gone>Be forced to re-rework Germany's forpol because you no longer have a reason to be enemies with Italy>Re-rework both Italy and Germany to have them fully align with this new timeline you created>Gain nothing lose the unique map and several conflict opportunitiesWHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>>2337505Regular Triumvirate would already have a struggle competing with Germany, and then if you add Atlantropa their major ports become worthless and in exchange they gain barren salt plains and slow desertification of all lands around the Mediterranean.Also Atlantropa'd Mediterranean looks like shit.
>>2337511Also, I don't think Atlantropa dam would survive long enough to be anywhere near completion. Even with direct German intervention to guard it if they wanted to, it would be a matter of national survival for every country in the Med to the point Italy would drop a nuke on it with Spanish consent because a total war with Germany would cause a lot less long term damage.
>>2337511>They wouldn't be competitive as a reason>Now they no longer competeGod forbid that we'd have an interesting underdog story about the 4th aspiring world power beating the odds. That might actually have been interesting. At every step of the road they made the stupidest, most boring decision imaginable.
I miss my fourth superpower Commie Italy anon, I miss her a lot.
Does anyone still have the Red Italy leader flowchart?
>>2337524Just have Hitler publically call all mediterraneans subhuman and you get a split.
>>2337637He already did that in Mein Kampf. Not saying I disagree with you but the German racial politics alone could justify a split.Instead, we get nothing ever happening.
>>2337731wasn’t it a gradual process starting with italys non enforcement of the final solution which dampened relations and then the alpine crisis which officially soured relations between the two? They may be rivals but italy is probably smart enough that they can only push germanys buttons so much before the teutons repeat the sack of rome
what about this mod makes the community so rabbidly retarded?Tried was playing iberia because I hear allegidly that there was an hidden event where the US returned the portuguese african colonies if Iberia helps in the african war. That would make sense, from a real life prespective, the US did this for portugal in East timor after ww2, and they very swayed fascist spain to NATO during the cold war. Iberia being not alingeAfter not being able to do it, I make the grand error of asking their cesspit of a discord if I missed anything. Just to get dogpiled by several agressive discord retards shooting out meaningless slurs while suck so much cock for the writers that even mia kalifa would be envious. Its a hoi4 mod with mediocre writting and the most nonsensical power dynamics, I really dont get how niggas take this so seriously
>>2337978It's because most remaining fans of TNO as well as devs on the team don't play HOI4. Never have, never will, nor do they care about it. They saw a super event compilation on youtube or read about the politics on Discord and jumped on. They're there for vibes, politics and nothing more.Compare and contrast with any other Paradox community without any e-cloud and there's nothing of this. Nada. It's all fake, gay and propped up by niggers that never played the game nor will they ever.
>>2338035>TNO as well as devs on the team don't play HOI4that is clear, I get the whole story driven mods but you could atleast try to make it fit with HOI4, in a strategy game centered on war there is little of it in TNO
>>2337978Unironically if Iberia managed its economy well and didn't go too harsh then the natives might actually support a return to iberia rather than independence as their infrastructure is either just for air bases (angola) or has been razed (mozambique).
>>2337978>discordi remember one of the members on the cord saying that TNO was better than TFR because>in TFR you just wait for the next war, in TNO it simulates an actual government!!!!!!Crayon eaters.
Oldfag here, i followed TNO since release and stopped caring shortly after release of guangdong. Somebody qrd me on state of this.
>>2338731They integrated a submod to rework Britain, they released the first few years of collab content. It was good, so of course the rest is never coming.Penelope's Web withered on the vine, no Italy rework in sight.Manchukuo is stalled.There's a Germany rework in the works, which removes the civil war and so will require a rework of most of Europe. Burgundy is smaller and is getting removed entirely soon +two weeks.There's an Amur rework that's stalled forever.Various Latin American countries and Iberia are the only things that actually have a chance of appearing.America is getting reworked entirely, might come out in late 2026 or 27.Africa is getting entirely reworked, no more South African War and Britain is getting its colonies back (which ruines the Britain rework.Oh, and Antarctica got content, for some godforsaken reason.Maybe France will get content? Eventually?There are two major forks, Requiem and Rises Again, but both haven't put out too much.
>>2338740>QRDIt's dead.About a year after you left the realism clique did a full takeover of the mod, purged everyone they didn't like and abolished leadership elections. They have since mostly just cut tags and made pointless reworks no one wants, like a map rework that makes everything look like this and allowed you to play as Antarctican tags where you just read events and play a minigame.
>>2338731>>2338760 (me)Also proof that the Africa rework is real: >>2334544 They're deleting all of the current content just to add in OTL Africa. All skeletons, no gameplay. The all European reworks were completely fucked to accommodate this and set the mod back by years.For your convenience, here's also a summary of all promises that were broken by the realism clique with their endless reworks.Also didn't mean to tag the post above mine.
>>2338760The antartic tags are not even their work, it is a submod team that works independently of the rest of the mod team, that is why it is the only one making content.
>>2338740what teams are even active at all in TNO. Is there even a singular developer working on Britain at this point or is it truly, completely dead after releasing a demo
>>2338875See: >>2334572Most devs that made the demo left, dunno if there was drama involved. Only guy left is Frost, a Mango shill. Tag entered rework hell after that. It's completely dead.
i remember seeing a leaked docs of the team talking about the status of the future updates in the last threads, including about Spain and Germany. Do anyone have it?
Guys, check this out.https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WhatCouldHaveBeen/TheNewOrderLastDaysOfEuropeApparently, this Tv Tropes page acts like the rewoorks have already been released, mentioning what is currently still in the mod as long-scrapped content. Check out the folders for America and Africa, It pretends if VP and DV are already out, this shit is surreal.
>>2339484Are you talking about the round tables? If so they're in the op.>>2332521https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December 24 roundtable notes.https://files.catbox.moe/zo5zhk.pdf - Post-Antarctica 25 roundtable notes.They're interesting time capsules that help track the failures, decline and internal damage control of nuTNO.>>2339560That's absolutely insane. You're right, it's all past tense and reads like a dev pretending we dodged a bullet by removing all this problematic content. I did learn one thing though.>When the Lobster War was first introduced in Cold Southern Springs, the main opponent to Brazil was Zentralafrika. Zentralafrika's role was replaced with French West Africa in Débrouillez-Vous. These early versions of the Lobster War were also unable to escalate into a Third World War.I always thought it'd just be cut since the concept of having a piece of otl France be a 1:1 stand in for Kongo Muller's illegitimate mercenary state is so stupid that it never even entered my mind as a conceivable concept.
>>2338875Iberia team will release an update sometime before summer.USA devs will prob release their rework Q4 2026-Q1 2027Germany is moving slowly, last time i checked borman was practically done and Speer was in dev hell.Latam team is prob active.Antarctica team is working on content for jap Antarctica.Africa team is working on their rework.Manchuria and Russia are moving at a snails pace (Amur and Tyumen reworks are closest warlords to being finished).Turkey has also seen some work according to a bilibili leak.Every other team is practically dead
>>2339664>REALITY CHECKER>Iberia team will release an update sometime before summer.By the way used to be last autumn, then December or January.>USA devs will prob release their rework Q4 2026-Q1 2027Source: Mango, literally. Take with all the salt in Kazakhstan.>Germany is moving slowly, last time i checked borman was practically done and Speer was in dev hell.True. Added context is that they've been on a four year rework plan so far. It was also "practically done" before they lost their early game war (SAW) and presumably have to replace it with new GUI minigames.>Latam team is prob active.True, they're the only people on the team that actually get playable tags out any more. In any other team they'd be considered a B or C team side show but they've unironically become the stars of TNO just by showing up to work.>Africa team is working on their rework.They said earlier that the summer was a good ballpark for a skeleton only release. Time will tell. I can actually believe it if it's just skeletons.>Manchuria and Russia are moving at a snails pace (Amur and Tyumen reworks are closest warlords to being finished).Neither has had documented progress in several years and all they've managed to do that we know of in the meantime has been to plan more sweeping reworks like the one for Komi.>Turkey has also seen some work according to a bilibili leak.They recently collapsed but got resurrected, actual status of their rework is unknown though since we don't know how much of the BiliBili leak is pre-team collapse/post-resurrection.>Every other team is practically deadTrue, other than that we just get plans for irrelevant island skeletons or a talentless idea guy/artist from the Lamounier or Mango cliques putting out some grandiose plans that they'll never even be able to make content for.
>>2339755Grimmer than the reaper
>>2339755Okay, and what about Requiem?
>>2339647Anon, the war happened in OTL... Between France and Brazil. If anything Zentralafrika was the stand-in for France.
>>2339835Requiem is bumpy but the thread consensus is cautiously optimistic. They released a SAW update, actually got the mod working with the latest DLC unlike the main mod and plan to add a new Russian unifier next in the form of Berezniki in the near future. They recently canceled their planned America rework, but that seems to be over the dev being a realismfag and in the light of irreconcilable differences they're instead fixing up Nixon's content in the short term.More of a Rises Again stan myself but at least Requiem seems to be moving along. Both forks have big issues though as you'd expect since TNO proper is practically dead and has completely killed all its hype at this point. Bear in mind, a lot of positivity both for R and RA come from the fact that TNO is practically dead and people are just happy that there's a chance for something better in the future.
>>2339845>A complete fucking northingburger happened IRL between the victorious France and Brazil>This has the same impact as Brazil fighting their old wartime enemy Nazi GermanySoon you'll be telling me that the border skirmish between Ngubustan and Mbutungu has the same impact as the SAW between America and the SS because it happened IRL.
>>2339647>These early versions of the Lobster War were also unable to escalate into a Third World War.so the lobster war is a viable way to start ww3? holy kekarino nutno is a joke
>>2339874I mean it pretty much falls in line with memes such as America nuking Haiti just to be evil/racist.
>>2339875ok but that's justified because its based af and the negros deserve it. the germans dindu nothin
>>2339877Fair enough, can't argue against straight facts spat from the honest mouth of a certified truth teller. Haiti nuke makes perfect sense and isn't just Mango shitting on his homeland/seething over Requiem.
>>2339880you don't have to worry about bad content being released because you know mango is going to rewoooork it until there's only one gameplay path (wholesome progressive demsocs), because why would you want to play as evil people?
>>2339755> Source: Mango, literally. Take with all the salt in KazakhstanI think an early 2027 release is plausible. As the 64 presidents are in fine tuning. You prob right though and we’ll get summer of 27 release.>Neither has had documented progress in several years and all they've managed to do that we know of in the meantime has been to plan more sweeping reworks like the one for Komi.I was just basing this assumption on the recent round table leak
>>2339933Iberia's been in fine tuning since last year and they missed several of their leaked internal deadlines. I'm not calling you dumb or anything but I think you're taking their claims more seriously than they deserve given their proven track record of constant failures. Nudevs just can't dev. Simple as.
>>2339851>the border skirmish between Ngubustan and Mbutungu has the same impact as the SAW between America and the SS because it happened IRLConsidering the dev team is full of the types of people who jerk off over third world socialist guerilla groups, yeah probably.
>>2340050I remember well Tno niggers on discord telling me without a once of irony panama would be more relevant for content than France. They really have this kind of fetish for the third world. You can also read the dev diaries on debrouillez vous to see where the narrative is going.
>>2340067I mean, TNO was always very obviously and thoroughly left-wing. I don't think there is anyone that will ever dispute this. However if you pay attention to any of the events about LATAM or the Trujillo stuff it's really on another level how much they love to suck off irrelevant third world communists, and just how fucking preachily it is written.Sablin's commiewank fantasy was transparent, but at least it was implicit. Some tags try to play the "from the perspective of the nation" position at least somewhat. The most egregious thing about old TNO was the fact that every path which wasn't a liberal democracy or libertarian socialism was le doomed to fail.The New TNO writing feels like every world event is published by Pravda or some college campus anarchist society's news rag. Usually the latter.
>>2340067>>2340121Even if TNO was always a largely left-wing thing (especially after Panzer got troll's remorse) old TNO always had a fun factor that let you override that bullshit. Don't like Sablin shit? There were other routes with content for a general audience. Don't like fully political, zero gameplay content? You could always enjoy Russia and parts of Germany to name the standouts.These types of content used to be able to coexist in harmony. TNO would never have reached as wide of an audience as it once did if they hadn't catered to both conventional HOI4 players and the dregs that we now recognize as the rapidly diminishing nuTNO audience. TNO could still be a relevant albeit polarizing mod if they'd simply kept this arrangement but instead they decided to delete every war from a wargame and then pretend to be surprised when they lost their entire audience to TFR, RA and R.
tfw tno is so dead the thread is getting near to the archive 160 replies in.
The German rework would have revolutionized hoi4.Which is why it's in endless dev hell.
>>2343711wtf is this gibberish? how tf do you win the minigame? By having the freest market? Idk I saw the mechanic in a bormann leak so I’m assuming interactions are rather broad
>>2343625I've never seen it hit page 8 before. Grim. Four whole days, and it's so dead that anons don't even care to make fun of it.>>2343711>Spend decades trying to turn HOI4 into a different game for a different audienceFucking WHY?
>>2343711WHO NEEDS ALL THE GUI. WHO EVEN USES IT, WHAT DOES IT ADD TO THE GAME?? IT'S LIKE THEY LEARNED ALL THE WRONG LESSONS FROM GUANDONG.
Its been a slow few days so I have arrived to save the situation. I am the one who has told you about the yippie mechanics and i promised to share the git.I was unsuccessful in getting the Git, however, i have something you will love. Heres a message from our golden boy Mango, to a great year of leaks and making fun of devniggers may we go anons. Enjoy the message!Yippie! will be the beginning of the TNO 2.X.X update cycle as we work up to the conclusion of the Cold War.The patch will include, among other things:> Refurnished America content up to 1977> The full scope of the Débrouillez-vous patch> New German starting content (1962-1964) from Victor and the Judge, with all Fuhrer (Existing Speer, Bormann, Heydrich) content afterwards preservedWe've had a great first 2 weeks with Yippie! in fine tuning, and I hope as development continues we'll have your help in making the largest, and most pivotal, TNO patch yet.Quick addendum on a couple things:> France & Sweden skeletons are moving from V&J to here;> Burgundy is also being removed here;> First-year Himmler content maybe included but no promises yet;> This will keep the current release goal of 2026, development wont be slowed down due to it;> Yippie will include Space content!;> Gorky will be nuked early game.Its a lot to take in, isnt it?
>>2343823Feel like I'm misunderstanding something here, are you telling me that all of their chirping over a germany rework that's been years in the making only covers 2 years...we're getting britain all over again.
>>2343832From what i have been told, early game germany is just being dropped early to properly interact with DV.
>>2343838Otherwise their planned rework is still on, just dropping later than yippie
>>2343823Seems like Requiem and TFR lit a fire under TNOs asses.
>>2343823>They`re removing Burgundy, the GCW, the african RKs and the npp in one updatePowerful move from mango, this almost makes me respect him for having the guts to do that.
>>2343823>V&J is just going to be a demo>Two skeletons repeatedly fucked over by endless reworks and purges dropping, 0 playable content or interactions with playable tags (outside of the German demo maybe)>A Russian tag being deleted is all progress they made in several years >All African content deleted, nothing playable, just some skeletons >Burgundy being deleted, replaced with nothing, not even pretending that the Himmler path is dropping any more>Also 20 years of US content for the mod that infamously never releases anything playable for anyone anywhere This mod is so fucking dead and I hope all remaining devs kill themselves.>>2343838Yeah no you're probably not even getting the fucking demo lmao.
>>2343844Yeah, they're pledging to remove beloved content faster than ever. That'll save the mod. Sure.
>>2343845Knowing how Mango was in TCT "misdirections", I suppose ripping off the bandaid in one stroke of the so-called realism complaints is in character.I wonder if they will advertise the changes, or keep the nixing of everything at once as a 'nasty surprise' to keeps things contained until the last second.
>>2343873They said in their original document that the plan was to slow boil the frog and earn goodwill by dropping some positive content as a buffer against the hate. They knew they'd eat shit over this. Guess they're just going to accept the hate and offer absolutely nothing in return except for a German demo and the US content... That they themselves admitted would get them in trouble with their fans.An alternate explanation: They know that everyone that cared about the original content already left so it doesn't matter if literally no one outside of the TCT clique likes any of this.
>no git>not even v&j gitits over
Serious question for any TNO dev that isn't invested in Mango's clique: what do you even get out of working on the mod? All you do is erase content that was more popular than anything you'll do and most of your fanbase have moved on to different mods and either hate or forgot about you. Is it just a social obligation at this point?
>>2343823Seems like they’re trying to just bite the bullet now. Kinda smart move ngl.
>>2343823Is there any proof of this?
>>2343978Frankly, I dont want to say you just have to believe me but you do have to believe me here, the guy who told me this also gave me never leaked before stuff about yippie so i trust him as a source. I would try to get the discord message but i fear that would reveal their identity so the answer is no, there is no proof of this i can give you but my word, and i hope thats enough
>>2343984Can u elaborate on a couple things than?> Gorky will be nuked early game.Like the Germans actually dropped the bomb? Is there a lore reason for this, how would that look in game?> Yippie will include Space content!Can u leak anything about this? What powers will have a playable space program in 1962.> never leaked before stuff about yippie Can u share some of this?> work up to the conclusion of the Cold WarMaybe I’m looking to deeply into this but what exactly does that mean? Are they gonna start working on tno2 now
>>2344014>Like the Germans actually dropped the bomb? Is there a lore reason for this, how would that look in game?Gorky tries to raid germany after Hitler gets a heart attack early game, they get nuked and turned into an anarchy tag in response> Can u leak anything about this? What powers will have a playable space program in 1962America and Germany, dont know anything about it however>Can u share some of this?Already did, the mechanics for goldwater, and other such were leaked by them>Maybe I’m looking to deeply into this but what exactly does that mean? Are they gonna start working on tno2 nowWhatever that means, i dont know
>>2344019The Goldwater mechanic doesn’t seem to be in thread can u leak it again?
>>2344061I for the life of me cant find i right now, someone check the 4chan archive just in case but i could only find the wallace one, couldve confused them but i distinctly remember seeing the Goldwater one so thats weird.https://files.catbox.moe/c7oxvs.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/md2ffd.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yefetb.png
>>2344019Doesn't Germany recreationally nuking random cities in Russia over pissant border raids into Moskowien fuck over a lot of the planned impact of America nuking Haiti? I guess 1WRW might as well end up being retconned out of existence at this rate if this is going to be Germany's nuclear doctrine. Even if it isn't the case NOW it wouldn't surprise me if that ended up happening down the line as Germany's plot armor intensifies.
>>2344019Wait a minute...
>>2344101I haven't bothered booting up the mod in ages so I sometimes forget that Moskowien's rework turned the country into a relatively stable spot because the dev believed that you couldn't do guerrilla warfare in Russia which is why they removed the MCW. Guess they can't get raided either. Heaven forbid that we'd have some tension in the world.
>>2344097>anyone besides collaborator samara and maybe aryan brotherhood unify russia>germany launches 400 nuclear warheads to prevent russia being a threat>no 2wrw ever
>>2344019I thought nuking countries was supposed to make you lose the cold War??
>>2344261Only if you nuke the heckin Haitian Blackerinos.
>>2344261Yes and no. If you take one step into the sacred soil of a country with nukes everyone just fires their entire arsenals at everyone but they recently undid that to allow for nuking harmless nations for no reason, like obliterating Haiti if your side in a proxy war loses or - apparently - if a few Russian bandits enter Germany's colony to steal stuff.>>2344263False. Nuking them is very much a lose button but only because it makes the whole world hate America for being evil and racist and seeing nukes used is really shocking to the world. Despite Germany using them against random Russians, I guess.
>>2343823>as we work up to the conclusion of the Cold War>america is the only country with content for that periodLMAOOOOOO THIS WAS A FUCKING JOKE AMONG /tno/ ANONSSATIRE ALWAYS BECOMES REALITY
today i shall remind them
>>2344288In retrospect vst's cruelest jokes were often more optimistic than the reality we got.>>2344296Was this from 2023 or 4 or something? Africa dev was only "paused" because they were doing DV behind everyone's backs until they had the majority to just ram it through. What a lying piece of shit.
>>2344296The screenshot looks like it was taken from tnocord (based on the role color and icon), not devcord, but I couldn't find this message. Was it on some of the locked channels (like dead and buried mod-feedback), or was it deleted? Looks hilarious tho, given the integration of this abomination of a submod.
>>2344303>>2344308
>>2344308No I recognize that channel. It's a channel on the dev server where management can read letters sent to them anonymously by other team members. We've had leaks from it before.
>>2344317LMAO it's from that TNO janny that used to do damage control over here
>Mango is focusing on TNO2>Meanwhile Italy is still suck with it's release content>Red Italy never everI'm sorry Bordiga...we all failed you...
did the holocaust happen in mango lore?also TNO Requiem submod released
>>2344338>also TNO Requiem submod releasedhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3662738292meant to link before posting
>>2344338>Holocaust Yep, job's done. They're all dead. They upped it a ton from Panzer more where it didn't work out and then heaps were enslaved or sent to Madagascar. The Nazis just have to be perfect and all their plans have to work for the story to work. But also, Germany is a normal country that rationally abolished slavery.>Submod Is it good?
>>2343823Could you at least share any new Yippie! Focus trees?
>>2344339>moskowien warlord contentFucking finally. I only had to wait how much? A decade?
>>2344339Lame how you need to have Speer win otherwise you're locked out from all other content. Have Bormann work like Speer too, no?
>>2343823Proof or you're a fag.
>>2344069these links don't work, can you post them again?
>>2343823So if i’m getting this right, Iberia and revamped latam skeletons are coming sometime around q1 of this year, Then this update around q3-4 and if we’re lucky we get Vnj in full around q1-2 of 2027. It’s a good start but this sorta content should have been coming out at least 2 years ago, Moreover Content for italy, france, Britain, japan, china, Manchuria, and russia all need to be complete. Best case scenario, They release 1/2 of the above content by 2030 at minimum
>>2344571>This sorta content should have come out at least 2 years agoThey're removing all content from four tags in this update so unless you're really into American politics and that alone you're getting a net negative with this plan. The only thing you mentioned that has any hope is Iberia.
>>2344575I never really liked the african content so it’s not a real loss for me. If you liked the Gcw I guess you have a reason to dislike this update But I was personally never a fan of the sci fi aspects of tno
>>2344605Well even if you dislike it you're replacing something playable parts of the community liked with something unplayable that got such awful feedback that the devs went full bunker mode and bitched about low morale in their internal notes. It's just a straight up downgrade and if you want otl Africa just play CWIC. At least otl Africa makes sense there.
>>2344324Invarientoids… we lost
>>2344324>2026>Fascist Italy still has barely any content, only a single doomed to fail path>Fascist Italy>In an Axis Victory cold war mod
>>2344649Could be worse. At least they keep their victories while Japan's win is being slowly erased and the rework will be mostly otl PMs doing normal right wing politics.
>>2344650>At least they keep their victoriesI mean kinda? The ending for Scorza's path is basically the same as Bormann's where everything looks like it's going well but then ACKTUALLY IT ISN'T and you get huge debuffs and economic malices.
>>2344671I get that comparing who got shafted harder by the US-German plot armor is like a bum fight but at least Italy gets to keep theirs for a bit.
Why does Germany stop at Gorky? Why not nuke all major west Russian city’sGorky,Samara,Arkhangelsk,Kazan,Orenburg and vyatka would cripple any wannabe unifier of the region. America can use 6 nukes on a irrelevant country but Germany won’t use it on a threat to their eastern colonies.
>>2344677I'm waiting for the incoming "Italy is actually just a bitch of Germany now" leakLooking at how other countries went, I'd be impressed if lam stops plotarmor fagging all over the place just for Italy.
>>2345283He already has to be honest. Removed their ability to go red, can't go to war with Germany and downgraded their hostility into a friendly rivalry. Removing Atlantropa might as well have been his long con to make sure that Italy never impeded Germany's intended story progression.
Do we know what the general contours of the Spain update are? Like what are the paths, and what are they each going for?
>>2345345I think it's just a facelift (admittedly much needed) and some initial DV integration.
>>2344069Those archives are a gem. Didn't find the Goldwater full gui, but got HHH's focus tree.
>>2346616Humphrey? Mister liberal turncoat himself?
>>2346616Very boring.
>>2344605I’m just glad that someone else is willing to acknowledge that old tno used to have sci-fi elements. Nu-devs deny it religiously
>>2346708>Mars landings to own Germany >Mega landship tanks>Russian laser cannon vehicles TNO used to have so much style man. Now it's all fucking gone.
>>2332521>https://files.catbox.moe/9320n5.pdf - Japan rework proposal.Link is down. Did the pdf go into Matsumae's path at all? I was interested in reading what they had planned for him. The technocratic paths are cool.
>>2346930wouldn't worry too much, it'll never be released anyways. I don't think Japan even has an active dev team unless they're the same as Manchuria (which will also never release).
>>2347176They're different teams. I don't know much about the Japan one but Manchuria has seen better days. Yugo's been buckbroken after being pushed around by Mango and has lost his old spark. It really is bleak.
Made the Humphrey tree into a catbox link. include in next bake!https://files.catbox.moe/ttlota.png
>>2346930Just stacking every post in the japanese bureaucracy/government with technocratic picks. A government of experts
Someone update Japan rework proposal and France flowchartLinks are dead
I love this nigga like you wouldn't beleive
New Japan rework proposal linkhttps://files.catbox.moe/3bwv2e.pdf
>>2348634>80 pages on something that'll never release
>>2348651it's actually more, but thats a shit rip of the google doc
>>2348655Can you copy other tabs or is it more complicated than that?
btw the "VP Hawaii crisis" and "VP 2025 events leak" both show the same thing witht the same link
haiti civil war is probably the best example of nu-tno content being rancid shitobnoxious minigame requiring undue amount of time and attention from the us player all because devs wanted to make a statement and of course it's broken in gorillion different ways
>>2348657It's feasible to get the actual doc if you have the bare minimum html and editing skills but nobody gives a fuck enough to do that
>>2348779What statement?
>>2348992That America... Is le bad. Racism... Is le bad. Deep. Profound.
I hate catbox...
