Long winter's nap editionPrevious >>2271392
>>2344418this list is so soulless
Man, being a Crusader King is kinda boring. I basically just declare war on Fatimids and wait until the truce ends so I can declare another war on the Fatimids. I'm probably just gonna have to start conquering Sicily to make it less boring or something.
>>2344418>QOL update is literally just copying mods again It's better than nothing I suppose.
Dev Diary #192 - Spring CleaningPrevious Dev Diary 191 - 2025 in Review >>2298825 Realm Maintenance Update: Q2Accolades Revamp>Squires as a buff/debuff to Accolade successor, who is automatically selected>Glory ranks are now spent on Attribute upgrades, rather than just being a passive increase to modifiers>No glory loss if Accolade dies in battleLedger>Artifacts, Characters, Ongoing Wars, Houses, etcSpring Cleaning Session>Thursday "Community Fix Day" -- submit a bug on Discord and see those forwarded into the game>will run an Open Beta for the update to bugfixOther>some mapping screenshot>not from this Dev Diary but from another discussion: a province size that unlocks District slots (to be added some time in 2026)
Not having to micro accolades is a plus, I don't even bother using it currently because the marginal benefits aren't worth the headache
>>2345275oh yeah, forgot the linkhttps://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-192-spring-cleaning.1902372/turns out that 2 months without a dev diary makes a man rusty
>>2344418>>2345275>adding more things that should have been in from the beginning
>>2344418mysterious attached image they later removed. Are they teasing us that roads will be included?
The Mani peninsula in southern Greece was majority Greco-Roman pagan until the 9th century AD, being the last known region to abandon the religion.Paradox devs have known this for years but refuse to make the associated county Hellenic in the early start date just le because they want to make restoring Hellenism as hard as possible. They could make a historically plausible Hellenic adventurer start based around this or something, but no, no fun allowed.Putting their own desires before historical accuracy pisses me off!
We need an africa expansion
>>2345654
what're the preferred map graphics? AuH looks too cheap and lightYusseter's Better Map Graphics? It has a deep tone that I like for the summers, but its winter is just a blindly painted white without any patches https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3378722062oGongzelin's UnderstatedEleganceInGraphics? Gongzelin's almost as light as the base game, but its winter has very fine details and even absorbed a snowfall effect from a since-abandoned mod. It also has some bloat and a fontmod I don't like https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3656676664I miss the classic IR Terrain and Snow with some Patches that have served me since 2021
>>2345689sagenvm, Gongzelin's was just light due to the startdate snow effect. It's summers are just as good as YussetersI just need to find a good fontpack
>>2344418Is it better than CK2 yet?
>>2345712Has been since Tours & Tournaments
>>2345712>no republics>no trade>no societiesno
Have there been significant changes since the landless DLC? Road to Power or whatever it was called. I last played then and it looked like only poorly received DLC and updates came out since then.
After years of waiting for the game to build up, I just bought CK3. What mods are recommended? QoL, Ruler Designer expander things. And are there any really good total conversions? I know there's a Warhammer Fantasy, LotR and TES ones, are they good?
>>2345712It's good for one nomad and one landless runEverything else in ck3 is shit tier
>>2345315The only one that’s worth the upkeep right now is the legendary blademaster accolade. They teach you and your current heir blademaster every 3 years.
>>2345689I play with Orthographic Perspective.
>>2345712The problem is not a lack of features, the game is shit on a fundamental game design level
>>2346439Elder Kings 2 is a great mod and more interesting than the base game
>>2346439I want to recommend After the End but it's gotten very gay and very Jewish since the original guys abandoned the CK2 version. Maybe worth a look but YMMV.
>>2346439Grab EK2 (that's the elder scrolls mod) + Systrean Restoration (fixes a retarded retcon EK2 devs did recently), CK3's mechanics work way better for that setting plus it fixes some of the mechanics (religions are way more detailed / nuanced for example; cultures are actually tied to specific regions where they spread more easily so there's less culture gore; etc). Although be aware that EK2 is currently for version 17 of CK3, not version 18, so you need to opt in to the older beta.Also CK3 is actually a pretty good porn game, grab carnalitas off loverslab and all the degeneracy you want on top (but be aware as well that you need to grab the versions for the version of CK3 you're on, if you do use a total conversion that's on an older version, like EK2)
Just got Mandate of Heaven and Horse Lords 2.0 and need help choosing a first playthrough. I can't decide between>Japanese Daimyo>finally try Persia>raise army as Finnish adventurer, travel to and subjugate Korea
>>2346439>And are there any really good total conversions?Princes of Darkness is a very easy recommendation for trying out, and they are up to date fast as fuck in relation to DLCs/patches. Very communicative too from what I've seen.Might not work with some other mods though. It'll throw up a warning against Better Barbershop for instance last I checked. Something about it fucking with menus.
>>2346895Japanese Daimyo is probably the most novel of the 3
I hope we get a dlc like Monks and Mystics for CK3.
what is wrong with chinai have sunk several thousands worth of influence into candidate score, gotten max confucian education, reached 4th merit rank and i'm still 94th in line for a county title
>>2344418Apparently, WTWSMS for CK2 had some updates recently.
>>2347173What did they update?
>>2347057skill issue
>>2347057>he thinks it's actually about merit
>>2347173>>2347194https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/wtwsms-2025-interim-release.1853928/#post-31095593Loved this mod back in the day.
>>2347057You're also up against the rank 3s and up. If your candidate score is high enough you should spike to the top of whatever rank you enter>>2346948Did they fix the estate buildings? I remember something being funky with those at launch
>>2346948I started as a minor noble house, played politics to make myself first in line for appointment to the governorship of my family's home district of Iyo, then leveraged what little influence I had to force the incompetent governor to retire. Now I'm trying to max out my income, be a good governor, and play more politics to increase my own family's influence while keeping the Saga bloc from becoming powerful enough to break the system. I was forced into the Saga bloc before I even got the governorship but switched over to supporting the Sugawara for balance and also because they paid me. It's almost a completely different game.>>2347467>Did they fix the estate buildings? I remember something being funky with those at launchThey seem fine to me.
>>2347485This actually sounds interesting. Might start a game in Japan. Been almost a year since I played. Thanks anon.
Randomly generated character with SIX personality traits. Married her to my courtier immediately just because I could barely believe it. Has anyone else seen this many before? How does this even happen?
>>2347578I know chivalry events can give you brave
>>2347578>How does this even happen3 is default, +1 from ward interaction, +zealous or cynical from learning events, +brave from martial event, +greedy from coronation event, +eccentric from stress LV 3 event.At least those are the ones I am aware of.
>Conquer china as Ghenghis Khan>Achievement for being a dominant family in Byzantium firesWell-deserved I guess
>>2347485hope you like adultery arrest notifications if you ever become Kampaku as a Shugendo fellow
Is ck3 good now?
>>2348090it's aightthough it's really in need of a touchup on the theocratic and by extent crusading end of things
>>2348090It's fine, if you plan on playing it for 3 or 4 generations of one family. Anything beyond that and AI just gives up on trying to usurp your position in any way
>>2348088I'm actually still here and I'm really enjoying this run, but I don't want to be Kampaku. The administrative government is kind of fucked because high turnover for the lesser houses lets a few established clans grab a bunch of offices then use their power to constantly start civil wars by forming claimant factions or making offices hereditary.My galaxy brained six million layer keikaku is to grab all the administrative offices on Shikoku for my family, ask the Kampaku to become a Sōryō vassal legally, then Assert Regional Dominion without a fight because the other offices in the duchy are held by my family members. After that I'll either try to become the shogun and restore order or overthrow the regency and help the actual Emperor unfuck the administrative system.Also it's retarded that I have to go to Chang'an to get Silk Road Innovations. China is literally right there, why do I have to walk to the far side of it?
>Today, however, I’m not here to talk about anything that’s part of the next chapter. Instead, I want to talk about something else-
Honestly what brings you back to ck3? After I don't know how many hours playing both ck3 and the agot mod for years everything just feels the same playing it, I did fuck around with that elf destiny mod but that just made me wish that was a standalone game rather than a mod
ate relatedi have seen a few posts mentioning "turncoat" as a term for canadians when the redcoats arrivewhat does it mean? do they get a event to help out the redcoats?
>>2348412>Honestly what brings you back to ck3?I played it for a month after launch and then dropped it. Haven’t touched it since.
man event spam is so obnoxious i want to strangle tards at paradox whose kpi is tied to player engagement
How the fuck do I deal with this?I've been raiding as much as possible and stacking gold because mercenaries are my only chance, right?
>>2348461Honestly you haven't missed too much. The last few expansions are generously described as bloat and garbage.
>have succession>treasury income collapses for no reason>update budget 45-45 when the event comes up>everyone get -200 opinion for no reason>treasury income recovers right after you take the hit>forcing budget update only gives +30 opinion for salary increase broken dog shit, why did people even praise byzantine dlc
>>2348628Swear tributary before its too lateOr swear vassalage and join the first strong faction revolt
>>2348685Treasury was an All Under Heaven addition; It was never balanced for the Byzantines and never will be
>>2345712I really miss the fantasy elements from ck2. you could actually become a fucking warlock
>>2344418Is it normal that all feudal kingdoms change succession to elective? I don't know if it's how AI acts now or some mod fucks with it
>>2346439There is no warhammer fantasy, they would be sued to oblivion by GW
>>2348851NahThere is no Warhammer Fantasy CK 3 mod because the team working on it is slow and probably mismanaged
so what are you using for province names in 3?more cultural names is still not updated, immersive toponyms is kinda ehh with it's names for me and nomina culturlia maxima is full of bugs
>got scammed by a traveling jewi seize this opportunity to condemn one more time from the bottom of my soul and of my visceras the state of israel
>>2349004>cultural namesYou guys really like this?
>>2349032yeah? nothing annoys me more than provinces controlled by slavs with german names
>>2349004in true Alexandrine fashion I rename every county I take after the ruler at the time
>>2349032Hell no. Not a big fan of muh cultural names for maas either.
>>2349046>mfw 270 cities all named Alexandria-on-the-River
>>2349062>yfw 270 cities all named Fag-on-the-Bend
idk if it's me or that new innovation UI is unreadable
since northmen are being turned into boers in next ek2 update going to have to check if they snuck Die Antwoord into any of those courtsreally doubt it but it'd be funny I guess>>2349076It feels like I'll start getting a headache if I look at it too long, if that counts
>>2349082are there any ek2 news? like they stopped dilating and started working on the mod for example
>>2349076is itso few useful information
>>2349082Are they renaming them to northfolk too?
>>2349084One of the devs implied it was looking like the update was going to drop two weeks ago but they decided it needed more polish/bugfix/loca(?) work. They've been saying soon for about a week and a half now. If that gives you an idea of about how close it is to being released. I'm personally assuming it should be out before March, unless shit happens.that aside, they dropped Breton namelist teaser about 16 hours ago. Pic is that, alongside a somewhat older teaser that felt relevant.As of the time of posting, there are no mpreg emoji reactions to the namelist post.
>>2349105nah, but from ctrl+fing to see what a "Reachman Breton" was, just found out Reachmen don't have Nedic(/North Nedic?) heritage anymore, so I guess they're Breton heritage in the next updateBjoule won't get hybridized out of existence every single game if that's the case, which is nice
What do you hope we will get in chapter 5?
>>2349304Something to make Europe less boring.
>>2349084they literally just posted patch notesso it's going up shortly
New EK2 update is up
>>2349534hope the graphical stuff gets fixed soon, I feel like I'm getting snow blindness looking at skyrim
>>2349304anything that makes Catholic feudal monarchs not the most boring thing to play in a game that is nominally about Catholic feudal monarchies
Is the China DLC fun If I want to play a viking and go on a marco-polo style adventure in Asia?
>>2346439fuck elder kings and its awful setting play lotr realms in exile
>>2350007someones having a melty
Playing EK2, have Heartlanders always been so dark-skinned? Like, half of them are straight up black
OK chud
>>2350064if you wanna lighten them up a little as a workaround you could go up to Skyrim in the winter zoom in and stare at the snow for a few minutes
>>2350064Well they blacked up the Systres (which are canonically Breton, in fact they're so Breton that in the Oblivion remaster you can pick between High Rock and Systres subraces when making a Breton character) and then seethed and banned people when anyone complained, so seems unsurprising.
>>2349534Is marriage broken in this mod? I keep seeing kings marrying their sons to foreignersLike this guy, heir to Wayrest but he was married off to the now queen of Daggerfall matrilineally
>>2350309Marriage has always been broken as fuck in EK2 because for whatever reason the devs insist on every culture/religion having equal gender laws and the CK3 AI is just not designed to handle that
>>2350313Yeah I figured it's some woke retardation. Any way to fix it or revert the marriage laws to default?Oh and look at this west Skyrim now has a vampire high king.... who's a Meridia cultistI feel like vampirism is way too lenient, nobody seems to care really
>>2345712>events every 35 seconds but they are all identical>go have a feast and see every single possible event in two of them and get stuck doing them again, and again, and againNo. Events make this game a fucking slog to go through.
>>2349004>not just doing it manuallyngmi
>>2350322>Any way to fix it or revert the marriage laws to default?There should be a setting for it, and I think It's in the EK2 game rules section.
>>2350322There are a few submods that fix the gender laws as far as I’m aware
>>2350313muh orcs>>2350309Can you check when the marriage was arranged, in relation to who the then-current ruler was? My first thought was that they got married while the boy was still a grandchild to the then-King. That's usually where basegame and EK2 fuck up, they seem to have no concept of grandchildren being important. It's usually most noticeable on elves since they live for ages.
>>2345712>>2344418As someone who tried CKIII during a free weekend and has never played CKII (but still have it on Steam because of an official giveaway), which do you seriously recommend I get into.I liked CKIII from what I saw and I wished to try out more stuff, but again, never compared it to CKII.
>>2350719I will strongly recommend CK2, if you actually care about the strategy part of the strategy game.Obviously the game itself is still very good at the larp aspects, but it rewards you more the more you engage with the dynasty management/realm building/intrigue systems.The map is also a lot more textured because of how different the religions/governments are and the regional mechanics (merchant republics, trade roads, nomads in the steppes)
>>2350719CK2 + creamapi + HIP is the best experience rn
>>2350539Sorry, I gave up on that mod already since I couldn't find a working submod for default marriage law but yes it was the grandson and daughter of the starting characters of the earliest bookmark
>>2350736To add to this there's definitely something fucked up with the marriage system in that mod because I had to stop myself from easily marrying into every kings family because everyone was alright accepting a matrilineal marriage with my daughter with their first born sons and heirs and I was just an adventurer turned count
>>2350737>I had to stop myself from easily marrying into every kings family because everyone was alright accepting a matrilineal marriage with my daughter with their first born sons and heirs and I was just an adventurer turned countif that's the case with no absolutely no other mod in use, and especially not some art mod since those are supposedly gremlins when it comes to introducing issues, then yeah that sounds like odd as fuck behavior coming from playing it prior to AuH releaseI haven't gotten landed yet so I hadn't really had a chance to see it firsthand. Be lucky if I can see shit as bright as the snow is.
>>2349304Transgender characters
>>2349974well that seems to be all anyone is doing with it so presumably
Im just made this meme some year ago
ayo hol upsince nativity regions can get tacked onto existing cultures in ek2 now, it should be possible to entirely subsume the summerset isles into some autistic ilniviri offshoot without it all being some migratory cultureor maybe straight-up "we have akavir at home" ilniviri with a few imported baandari and imgaall without being fucking blinded by snowI know what I'm doing now
>>2350951ooh actually to add to that, since Ilniviri have that female dominated/warrior queens shit, that could alleviate equal succession marriage bullshit since they'd favor matrilineal by defaultOK yeah akavir at home it is
>>2350953not ilniviri I'm retarded, I meant Tsaeci
>gain Unyielding from war focus>+2 martial from worshipping the Suomenusko god of war and another +1 from being a devout follower>gain Sturdy from a ritual sacrifice to the ancestors>gain Brave from warrior lodgeSo this is the power of the Old Gods huh?
>>2350940
>>2347173wow, shocked it's still getting worked onlast time I played it was 4 years ago, restored (pagan) Western Rome as Soissons. wanted to go further but the glitches had gotten so extreme that it was impossible
Wish they'd just make a CK like game but fantasy
>>2351715just mod the game nigga
>>2351722Yeah but it's jank on top of jankThey should just use their vampire ip to make a proper game instead of anal raping vtmb
>>2351781not him but I'd be willing to buy a standalone Princes of Darkness game if it meant they wouldn't get devastating anal rape from a Paradox DLC the instant after jerry rigging something that could be called a Mage
Does anyone know if they actually got payed by the Chinese government for the propaganda? It's either that or they got infiltrated.>>2349974It's irredeemable ahistorical trash. The best thing they added for years is "hard" difficulty which apparently doesn't do anything except stop the AI realms from breaking up.
>>2352187>Does anyone know if they actually got payed by the Chinese government for the propaganda? It's either that or they got infiltrated.Why do they need to get paid or be infiltrated for Paradox to want some Yuans in their wallet?
>>2352208The propaganda is so extreme it's like a parody. They didn't feel the need to pretend Britain was the centre of the world to get British players.
>>2350064>Blacks the Systres>Uber Whites up the ReachWtf are the Ek2 team doing.
>>2352354Reach was always white though? I think they were already broadly celtic back in the daggerfall lore
>get into the game again after nearly a year>play as Japanese noble family, unlanded initially>get a province>civil war breaks out months later, years of peace beforehand>insurrectionists always occupy my province first>quitI hate the AI in these games, EU4 does the same shit. You can be the most irrelevant co-belligerent in a war, the AI will walk past their war target to siege you. Immersion-breaking nonsense.
>>2352426Whine some moar
>>2352426>throw your entire army directly into the heartland of the enemy, where they will be waiting for you>effortlessly pick off the frontier where there will be no resistancethe hardest choices require the strongest wills
>>2352187What propaganda? That it always collapses and, when it stands, is a bureaucratic mess of warlords vying for power while governors steal as much from the treasury as possible?
>>2352549They're the highest power in the world, emperors of emperors, recognized by Icelandic lords as something to "kowtow" to, the only place in the world that values education and a source of tech that for some reason doesn't propagate through Europe. In CK3 world the rational Icelandic lord would go on pilgrimage to the holiest holy mecca of China over any other place. It's almost definitely Chinese state propaganda. In reality they were just another empire, less interesting than Persia except they didn't get fucked by Islam.In hard they never collapse and the Mongols don't touch them.
>>2352549the "Activate Windows" watermark really makes it
>>2352370Always thought they were more on the caveman tan white side, still definitely white but years in the sun made them a caveman tan.Iirc the reason they turned them back into normal-ish Bretons and shit was because "original" lore basically made them Nordic/Breton colonists and settlers who were just kinda celtic and independent from the rest back in PGE. Newer lore basically made them a mongrel race bred from Orcs, Nords, Bretons and whatever nedes were still in the area and practiced worship of Daedra.
>>2352586>highest power in the worldQuite comparable, yes>Emperor of EmperorsGameplay mechanic because the scope of Empire in the East isn't the same as Empire in the west. There is only one Middle Kingdom, the same as there only being one Roman Empire>recognized by Icelandic lords as something to "kowtow" toIt was common across East Asia to kowtow to China for benefits, yes. It's not something westerners need to do. >the only place in the world that values education and a source of tech that for some reason doesn't propagate through EuropeThere were certain technologies and techniques that were unique to China and propagated outwards, but that they stop at Byzantium and Cairo is inaccurate--the same that Japan and SEA are cut out of it, too, for gamey reasons. The dumb "travel to silk road market" activity is fucking dogshit, just like Bloody Weddings and Cat-apults.There should certainly be more unique Innovations to different regions but Paradox says it's a sandbox so Africans are the same as Norwegians (which isn't wrong)>In CK3 world the rational Icelandic lord would go on pilgrimage to the holiest holy mecca of China over any other placeYou certainly aren't punished for not doing it, given how the AI can't manage to actually use any of its benefits>In hard they never collapse and the Mongols don't touch them.Tang always collapses but the Song is a different story, particularly because the AI always chooses the path of least resistance and never fights and equal or larger foe. It is a CK3 problem more than just Chinese
>>2352745You're not saying anything. Why is a Swedish company pushing Chinese propaganda?
>>2352782The truth isn't propaganda, hakgwei
>>2352782They don't want another game B& from one of the largest paypig markets.
>>2352782>you're not saying anythingis this some slang for "I want to have a polmonkey chimpdown please become agitated while I double down"
>>2352811It means you're not saying anything. You just listed a bunch of points I know that confirm CK3 is ahistorical propaganda while acting like you're saying the opposite.
>play chinaman for the first time>hardstuck in 8th rank of civil career>have to complete local examination to go higher>go to activities and attempt to start a local examination>can't go through with it because of "You have not passed the local examination"So to conduct a local examination I need to have passed a local examination but I can't pass the local examination without conducting oneWhat do?
the historical thing would be to topple the dynasty over your personal inability to advance
The fall of the Ming to those Manchu savages has got to be one of the biggest tragedies in the history of China.Steppe nomads are subhumans who should have been all genocided 1000 years ago for the greater good of humanity.
>>2352850This but the other way around, Genghis Khan (Praise Be Upon Him) should have completely exterminated the h*n and turned China into one giant pasture for his herds.
>>2352837I think you have to find one being hosted, you can't proctor your own exam
After playing CK3 in China I finally understand the peninsula of Asia meme. If euros hadn’t conquered the world they would probably just be considered a subcontinent like jeets.
>>2350719>pic relatedshe is in my game and now I have no idea if it's some mod or they added another meme to ck3
>>2350313It's like that because it's like that in TES.
>>2352928"Asia" is just Turkey. China is the less notable farmer sibling of the Tibetan culture.
>>2345275honestly the fact that it took them this long to just incorporate the knight manager mod is appallingliterally unplayable without it
if i conquer china, am i forced to adopt chinese government? can i form the chinese hegemony without going admin if i'm playing as an unwashed tribal barbarian or something?
>>2352837 I found the solution. To participate in the exam I needed to not be an active governor so I quit my job, went back to school and got that higher degree. Then applied for higher paying jobs than before (in chinese)Weird system and the game does an awful job at explaining it
What would be his playstyle starting as Baldwin?
>>2353273Sending gold to the muslims so they can afford to attack and he can call in all his allies without prestige loss.
>>2353273blackmail - demand money combo on other kingdoms
>>2353273intriguemaxx and let the byzantine golem do all the dirty work for him
I have bought the most important CK3 DLCs and i'm wondering if i should buy the CK2 subscription. I'm craving and old school paraslop game but EU3 and Vic2 look a bit dated to me. I think CK2 is the sweet spot in what i'm looking. What do you think
>>2353292>BuyNigga, just pirate that shit
>>2353292Cs.rin.ru has good discounts on the dlc
Realms in Exile's upcoming update is going to add some much needed black people.
>>2353455basedytboi gondorians will pay reparations
I was thinking about developing a free, open source clone for ck2.It looks like a good idea, so if you want to excuse me i'll have to withdraw in my ivory tower and spend at least six months studying c++ manuals 24/7.
>>2344418I went back to Imperator and got so much more enjoyment from it.It funny how high contrast it is.In Imperator, recovering from a battle takes decades.In CK3 it takes months.
>>2353798Took me months to recover from the last time I tried that busted piece of shit game.
>>2353814Levies I suppose?
>>2353048>Weird system and the game does an awful job at explaining itthe ancient chinese probably felt the same about the real system
>>2345712If governance wasn't so heavily restricted by tech, it'd be great. Fucking retarded you have to wait til the late game to get normal ass inheritance laws, like primogeniture. Landless is fun, however, especially if you play as a brigand or you lose your territory. The most fun I ever had was being a Norse Duke of Normandy under France, having the king start a revocation war, lose to him, have my guy die, then watch as my eight-year old son is made to wander with a camp for twelve years, rebuilding. He eventually took Lotharingia, most of the Netherlands, Burgundy, Normandy, and half of France, all in revenge wars with claims. A real Return of the King moment. That was peak gaming. But moments like that are incredibly few in CK3.
>>2353798I want to like Imperator, but the problem is I like playing no name kingdoms and building them up. And you can't do that because Rome just stomps right up to you with giga armies. If only they gave a scenario BEFORE the ascendancy of Rome so you had time to build up first.
>>2353857I see Rome as the final boss
>>2353857>>2353858but that being said, I do agree start date is bizarre. I have no idea why they picked 304 BCE. Seleucus shouldn't even be landed in 304.I guess the start date was always going to suck
>>2353857if you're playing outside of Italy or Greece, you can usually get away with ignoring Rome for a bit while building up a power baseif you're playing in Italy/Greece, then unless you're playing as one of their initial subjects you can generally rush them before they begin rollingjust make sure you save up enough for a decently-sized merc stack and assault the shit out of everything, targeting Rome itself especially>>2353860>Seleucus shouldn't even be landed in 304.Huh? Are you confusing 304 with 314?His exile ended in either 312 or 311
>>2353861>Huh? Are you confusing 304 with 314?yeah my bad
Picking a start date was always going to be difficult.Between Alexander's death and Ipsu,s shit is messy.During Achcmenids there is no point because the Achaemenids would be overpowered.I feel the latest viable start date would have been 626 BC. Which was the beginning of Neo-Babylonian revolt against Neo-Assyria.
>declare war with the eradicate house CB>house has 3 members, one landed ruler and his two children>win>kill the ruler and his wife, both his kids are still alive??????
>play anywhere in Persia>Seljuk spawns>fun ruinedinherited special event troops are so fucking gay
>>2353995That's how I feel playing anywhere near pic related.Assuming it is the same in CK3 at least event troops never regenerate manpower so even if you lose one or two wars you can still bounce back as long as you inflict great losses on them.
>>2354089The only special troops worth mentioning in ck3 are crusader heavy infantry and assorted bandits from adventurer. Bandits being pretty much player only and only because they're both free and you can get insane numbers of them. But those order heavy infantry and all other special troops can't be stationed so base stats and can't refill while not being immune to attrition or siege attrition. So, former means you can kill mongol horse archers 50:1 with basic ass MAAs since ai is dumb as shit and will attack you in mountains and latter means you need battles not wars to attrition him. Of note all special troops disband on succession so if you're a single county or something when 7 gorillion horsefags come a knocking you can still assassinate the khan or the like and remove them from the game with no questions asked. In short don't be fooled by random whining.
>>2353995>play anywhere in Persia>Seljuk spawnsIn CK2 there's Sabuktigin Ghaznavid, then Seljuk a few decades later, then Genghis Khan in the early 1200s and finally Timur around 1350.It's certainly the toughest region to keep a hold of in the game because of great conquerors always wanting a piece (or all) of it. I wonder why everyone wanted this mountainous, difficult terrain.
>>2354195>I wonder why everyone wanted this mountainous, difficult terrain.The main silkroad goes through Persia. Trade routes connecting East and West print money.
>>2354195Tin and cedar, then incense and sandalwood, then silk and spices and now oil. Think of it as you would of india, as long as you don't consider pajeets the land is both very habitable and rich.
>>2353273>mfw greed is a sin in CK3 Judaism
I don't think Seljuk ever recovered in CK2 with whatever changes accompanied the map getting extended east to the Tarim Basin/India, he either died to something random(/in battle as a commander?) before getting land or his initial army ate so much shit in his first war that he was little different from another random ducal shitterI forgot Ghaznavid could even spawn
>>2354294I've never seen him not conquer Persia.
>>2354294Seljuk has the problem that his initial force is scaled based on who controls Merv. So he can easily lose if some puny shitter has the target area and has allies. But then he if he wins he gets a doomstack like Sabuktigin and his descendants can even get resurgence for more troops.
I hate how most Total Conversion mods for this game are in the "develop irrelevant shit nobody cares about now and put 0 thought into mechanics people care for". Realms in Exile had finally added more invaders after spending all their time focusing on some dumbass nigger cultures nobody plays, and EK2 niggas actively kill submods while cutting out cultures out of their mod. What the fuck are these retards doing?
>>2354524>AGOT for CK3 still hasn't added a pre-Conquest or War of the Five Kings bookmark and keeps trying to piggyback off the new shows instead
>>2354524Does Realms in Exile even have Fellowship events right now?
>>2354294I haven't seen Seljuk conquer Persia or acquire the conqueror trait in any of my campaigns.He usually consolidates his realm in northern Persia while the Abbablob takes over.
>3 Brown Hegemonies (India, Arabia, Rome)>2 Yellow Hegemonies (Mongols, China)>0 huWhite Hegemonies>0 Black HegemoniesWhitebros… Blackbros…
I legitimately do not understand why they did not add in Africa as a hegemonyyeah it would be a shitty meme title but there's literally a decision called "Unite Africa", why do you not let me unite it?
>>2355083Good, whites don't deserve good thingsShame about blacks though>>2355088Apparently all hegemonies are supposed to be historical. As in existing previously.But by that metric India shouldn't be a hegemony as well, as it was never united before brits came
I wish I wasn't revolted by nord/falmer hybrids as much as I am, I'd rather focus on anything else than keeping Nords out of my vassal's pants
>>2354534I think the former is mostly because king's landing wasn't a thing before Aegon and since you can't replace terrain with the current engine the devs just gave up on that. I heard they're not making the War of the Five Kings because they "need" to implement the white walkers correctly, even though a submod already did good enough on that front.Btw wich agot hoe you fuckin? I'm rebuilding Harrenhal and giving Danelle Lothston a son for each tower repaired.
>>2355100>But by that metric India shouldn't be a hegemony as well, as it was never united before brits cameWasn't there that ashoka bauvragati fella that killed a bunch of jeets then went "boohoo i'm sad ill become buddhist now"?
Here's your White Hegemony.
>>2355083>>2355088>>2355100I just don't get why you're not allowed to form a custom hegemon if you hold three or more empire titles. Yeah yeah they want the hegemon titles to have historical 'flavor' or whatever, but in that case just add a rule that you can't do it when two or more of the empire titles already belong to a de jure hegemony.
>>2355313but that's the Roman Empire
Marrying outside of the culture group ticks my autism more than I'd like to admit.
>>2355352my favourite historical instance of this sort of thing is that Henry I of France (the king just before Philip, the king in 1066) took Anne of Kiev as his wife solely because Kiev was the closest place with a viable candidate which wouldn't be incestuous by church standards
>>2355359I'm sure her reportedly enormous dowry had nothing to do with it.
>>2355370Enormous enough that not a single detail was ever recorded beyond "big", yes
>>2355192not that anon but dornish and valyrian girls are my all time favourite
>>2355372And the Reims Gospel so insignificant and valueless french kings did their coronation with it, among other equally worthless manuscripts, and enough gold, jewels and furs to outfit several abbeys including but not limiting to Abbey of Notre Dame at Laon or Abbey of Saint Vincent in Senlis. The bitch was rich, 18 years younger than Henry, had ties to Bohemia and Poland and the Pope was happy because he got to stick it to the byzanmemes.Do a google search deeper than wikipedia my man. It's a fairly interesting story.
>>2355405Not sure what the Reims Gospel has to do with Anne of Kiev, considering it only enters France 500 years after she does, but good to know all the same
>>2355410Right? It's not like it was called Bible of Anna Yaroslavna or anything before some Hussite wiped his ass with the original. To be fair probably something Peter the Great capitalized on and pulled out his ass but again, interesting story not fully covered by zoompedia.
>>2355413Or much of the Anglophone internet in general outside of like two Ukrainian websites, one of which explicitly refers to the origin with Anna Yaroslavna as a "legend".Regardless, if the part that came with Anna was the big deal, surely you can name any French monarchs who used it in their coronation before the Caroline half showed up?
>>2355414>capitalizing the F in frenchI can deal with you being a passive aggressive douchebag desperately trying to get a one up on some random in a pissing match that only exists in your own head. I read up on a topic you brought up, and thanks for that by the way. Fun read. But this is just... barbaric. I cannot abide with faggotry this uncivilized. Treating them bowlegged chainsmoking cheese munchers as... people. Ew. Seriously nigga. Dislodge that stick from your ass and have a normal chat if you're capable. You don't find it amusing that actual kings swore their coronation oaths on muh lost language that could just as easily have been a polish recipe for kielbasa?
>"My name is Constantin, Emperor of Romans in Constantinople:Look on my works, ye Gr**koids, and despair!"
>>2355192>Btw wich agot hoe you fuckin?for me, it's Arianne Martell
>>2355460I am looking at the big Erbia and Eljuks.
>>2352354One of the devs was having a melty at white people for ... some reason and decided to remove the canon Bretons from the Systres and add Redgaurds just because (even though the sea is already full of Redguards). Was just bizarre.
>>2355580I don't recall seeing anything about wypeppo melty prior to Systres getting the axe myself and I sit in there harmlessly. I think the stated reasoning was that it was never intended to be in a release build to begin with and in their infinite wisdom decided to shitcan it in favor of something supposedly more suitable for the time period. At least one dev stated it was intended to give Bretons a decision to form the culture on holding the islands, but I never had access to it myself when I tried having a go at it after seeing that statement, so I assume they had some internal disagreement or the guy who wanted to do it lost interest and fucked off.fuck knows what contentious autism has been going on in their dev channels lately
>>2355196Yes. Although, as the comparison in ck2 goes, Alexander’s empire could be seen as a hegemon as well. Perhaps they didn’t do that because it fell apart immediately when he died.
EK2 is literally unplayable without using the male preference mod not because of bigotry but because the AI can't handle equal succession
>>2355783works in my realm of ticcing the isolationist button while exclusively landing children after ensuring they won't be able to make goofy-ass children with goofy-ass nords. Deaths are infrequent enough I can just tank tyranny/legitimacy hits to fix up stray internal border shenanigans. Those cadet dynasties are going to fucking die thoughalso, turns out an elf with herculean can easily push 350+
>>2350735Ok, so, I creampied the game.What is this HIP stuff? A mod overhaul I get it? How does it change the game, and shold I use it for a first playthrough?
>>2355826HIP is a mod that supposedly makes the map and some mechanics more historically accurate and also balance the game to make it more difficult.I liked most of the changes but I disliked the smaller map (it removes India and a chunk of the eastern map) and dropped a campaign when I found out you can't raid anymore after reforming a pagan religion and converting to feudal.Play the vanilla game (with all de DLC) on your first playthrough. If you like it, try HIP afterwards.
>>2348727Still standing. After not playing for many days I was pleasantly surprised to go back to the campaign and immediately see Khazaria split after the Khagan's death. My old ruler died and I immediately attacked my brothers for my lost counties and launched a subjugation on Novgorod.I CONFESS though, I cheesed for gold by inviting everyone I could with 20+ and abusing imprison + banishment. I was afraid to be attacked by nomads and not have gold to hire enough mercenary bands to survive and I really don't want to start another campaign.When I was done uh, collecting everyone's donations, I had to basically imprison, revoke and kick out all of my vassals + my courtiers because everyone had -3000 opinion of me from the tyranny.It's for the greater good though, for the survival of the Suomenusko faith and the finno-ugric peoples, I'm sure they'll understand.
>5 modder dlc's by Q2 and no Chapter 5 info
>>2355864Getting the new map is optional during HIP install
China never existed. The great wall was built by Hyperboreans to protect from southern jungle cannibals.
>>2356104they have to expand on asia please understand. australia dlc and no merchant republics please understand
>>2356104the more clothing and hairs they add the more I wish they'd implement a means to adopt "court clothes" from another culture without outright hybridizingor maybe at least implement a means to vary some of that shit by climate
>>2355864>>2356107Alright. I think I'll avoid it for now and try it later.Anything else I could use? I noticed the UI is pretty small and not easily readable so I was wondering if there was something for that, maybe any other QoL mod.
>can generate same-culture/faith character by using culture ambassador travel optionwoo adventuring with people that aren't immediately plotting to kill one another
ck3I just started a new playtrough as some buttfuck nowhere Sami tribal nation and got two children boy and a girl as twins, both intelligent and Giant, and now I want them to go full Cersei and Jaime and make babies, but how to force it?
>>2357231reform your religion to allow divine marriage
>>2355083>>2355100>>2355317Rome has always been the "Hegemony of Europe." The title of "Roman Emperor" is synonymous with "The Ruler of Europe / Western Civilization." Any European empire that would have succeeded in conquering most of Europe would have naturally evolved into being "The Roman Empire." Even as late as the 19th century, Napoleon Bonaparte tried to style himself as a "Roman Emperor." You could even argue that Nazi Germany in the 20th century was trying to roleplay as a "Roman Empire."
>An error occurred while parsing the configuration file!
Anyone else got a bug where hunting deers,stags and the like, just give you a shit quality skull or hide with 0.001 prestige and the artifact doesn't mention it was from a deer like other hunting artifacts do? Seems only one other guy on the plaza got this but no fix in sight. I spent more than 2 hours patching the hunting events but nothing to show for it. What do?
I haven't tried out the asia DLC, so I started a save in Korea as a vassal to try it out.>ruler dies early, now I'm a baby>spend 30+ years helping others' examinations to boost my merit>finally get some governorship>keep getting moved around, there's nothing to do in the long term other than developing my state>can't declare wars unless I'm in a military region>die early again>I'm a baby again so I'll have to spend another 30 years doing nothing only to get another governorship to keep doing nothingEpic gameplay. I'm assuming China is more of the same but with more cancer because merit goes all the way to 1st.
>>2358052yeah I have that but I assumed it's a mod problem
>can't usurp title of hostile faithFucking why?
ek2>sponsor invade a little under Balfiera as a glenumbran>flip to witchman by conquering duchy of Evermore, hand it off to a daughter then fuck off to Systres and get independence>Balfiera/daughter expand into the western Reach and I wind up culture head with two provinces, both in Abecce region>decide to make weebwitch knights since I have some ilniviri on hand, wait ages as that sets up, make some clones and bully crowns to pass the time>migratoryreload into divergence it is>nativity regions imported 1:1 from witchman, not considered native to abecce despite only having land south of Betony(? island off south coast of Daggerfall)guess I'll save edit or delete it tomorrow, maybe check in debug if culture heads diverging in particular fucks with how it checks nativity shitalso a late-20s non-conqueror Godlike(piety) Mane had tributized most of Nibenay including Imperial isle about 10 years prior to that
>>2357270>Rome is around>Everybody and their mother hates the Romans, including the Romans>Rome collapses>Everybody and their mother wants to pretend to be Romans, including the ItaliansMake it make sense
>>2358384>Make it make sense
>>2358384We'll see brownoids larping as Europeans in 200-ish years.
unironically partition is more fun than primogeniture
>>2358618I like primogeniture because it allows me to land my sons appropriately without creating future inheritance gore, as well as make them beneficiaries in crusades
>>2358381>ek2Is the snow texture fucked up for everyone else? It's so bright and ugly
>>2358618True unless it affects counties. They should get duke tier and upwards but leave my main counties alone you brats!
>>2358644Unironically this. Even if they create a new title of equal or one lower rank if one is otherwise unavailable I could deal with it. I mean I only got myself to blame for running partition. But they'll do that already AND take my landmark county on the other side of the empire. Greedy fucks.
>>2358643yeah it's still bad, especially zoomed in far enough that realm colours disappearIt used to be significantly worse IIRC, overrode realm colours to the point of having no distinguishing tint to know who owned what, I think it was brighter toohopefully they can get it fixed soon, from what I gather (hearsay) they aren't the only ones having trouble with snow
>>2350729>>2350735Sorry, I tried playing CKII, but the UI is so unintuitive it's hard to figure out what exactly is everything or what to do next. I'm currently trying again CKIII with all DLCs and it's so much easy to figure out where is stuff and how to make it work, great QoL improvement.Is there no way to bring 3 to the level of 2 or beyond it using mods?
>>2358817>Is there no way to bring 3 to the level of 2 or beyond it using mods?The focus is too different, so most of the mods are RP shit
>>2358381mod updated, nativity should work nowI deleted my save already lmfaoalso they bolded text in the update post that the next update "won't be savegame compatible ! ! !", whatever that implies they're fucking with
So why does CK3 treat witchcraft as a universal constant that exist everywhere?In the first place, shouldn't witchcraft basically be the character secretly converting to some pagan religion?
>>2358974>In the first place, shouldn't witchcraft basically be the character secretly converting to some pagan religion?noPlenty of proper Catholics, at least, practiced witchcraft during the medieval era, though IIRC it was mostly starting in the 1200s
>>2358975What? That's blatantly falseSure, there were plenty of degrees of non-standardized practices due to the difficulties of maintining church orthodoxy, particularly across the whole of Christendom when you had expanding/shrinking frontiers, localized sycreticism, and cultural exchange, but never "practicing" witchcraft. It would be subtle things, often traditions that were created over the conversion practices--spin a maypole, celebrate the midsommar, etc, but they're overwritten with christian teachings and cultural normals of the time because people are still people and enjoy a festivity and the seasons/celestial events are literally in front of their eyes. To seek out a wizened woodswoman for herbs wasn't witchcraft, for after all, they were all part of God's creation, tooAs you mention about the 1200's, that's when the Dominicans were created to combat unorthodoxy, particularly amongst the Cathars and other splinter groups, who were eager to crack down on anything too unorthodox or syncretic, but, then again, it's not like the noblemen and women were gathering in cabals to sacrifice goats to secure the summer's eve--they were people going to a local esoteric for hopes of some help that could offer; nothing different than the Japanese getting a "good luck" charm from their local shrine to pass entrance exams--it's not like they're actively begging and sacrificing to the Kami, it's a cultural positivity. Sure, there are cases of people actively trying to curse and ruin other people, which was a part of mysticism, but it's also in the same context as trying to hire an assassin--a means to an end
>>2359066For one example please consult the University of Paris' Condemnation of 1277.You don't issue a denunciation of "the books, scrolls, and leaflets dealing with necromancy, or containing experiments in fortunetelling, invocations of devils or incantations endangering lives, or in which these and similar things evidently contrary to the orthodox faith and good morals are treated", nor do you "pronounce the sentence of excommunication against those who shall have taught the said scrolls, books, and leaflets, or listened tothem, unless they reveal themselves... within seven days in the manner described" unless there are people actually doing that among your ranks.
>>2358975Anon... Not even a catholcuck and I know you're full of shit.
>>2359095Not sure why you're trying to imply the need for Catholic apologetics? It's not like I singled out Catholicism because I perceive it as a religion of demon-worshippers, just because A: it's Crusader Kings so the emphasis is (ostensibly) on the guys doing the Crusades and B: it's the one I'm most familiar with sources for in the time periodthe point is that you can believe everything Catholicism teaches, to the letter, and still decide that "yeah, actually, I'm gonna talk with Satan instead." Or any other sect of Christianity. Or the equivalent for any other religion. Suggesting that witchcraft should change your religion is some hardcore no-true-Scotsman shit
>>2359093That is a correct assumption, but that isn't proof that "Plenty of proper Catholics... practiced witchcraft during the medieval era"As I said, the Dominicans were hunting Cathars and aware of any idiosyncrasies in the 1200's. The condemnation itself was a trial against Aristotlian beliefs, a repeat of previous condemnations. That there were people were attempting fortunetelling or seeking scrolls of the necromancy are, as a mentioned, an outlier. I am not familiar with the sources for the Condemnation, but, in my interpretation, it's the same kind of warning of a company mass email--one guy suffered an injury not wearing his safety gloves, that doesn't mean that everyone leaves their gloves in a truck. Some churchmen found one or two localized instances, or even a group of people together--it wasn't a whole village in romping Saturnalia or a cabal of nobles abducting children. It's like saying "Plenty of proper gsg players are trans" because HoI4 exists. They are a tremendously extreme, though vocal, minority, not "plenty."
>>2359107Bruh... you might legitimately be brain damaged.
>>2359109>>2359111I will concede that "plenty" may not have been the best word but I stand by my point - at least in the minds of the elites, there was a very real threat of some of the educated and elite, the two groups that make up the majority of characters in this game and which include the clergy, taking up black magic.The addition of witchcraft as a serious mechanic is a shitty meme in general though and it was in 2 as well. Big problem is that before the inquisitions of the 1200s, nobody took any of this shit seriously. Saying that witchcraft should make you a pagan because they would denounce you as such doesn't hold up as well when for the majority of the game's timeframe, you'd get that treatment merely for believing that they existed at all.But "lmao you discovered someone else's witch secret, guess YOU'RE gonna get fucked in the ass by the Pope" isn't really a fun gameplay mechanic
>>2359129Your loss.
>>2359129Yeah, I'll agree that's all reasonable
>>2359146But it's perfectly reasonable. He got filtered, is too dumb to find buy pardon button and now he's venting.
why the fuck is Serana asexual in ek2
>>2359353probably so nerds don't hyperventilate when she shows up in court with ticklebritch and about 6 orcish bastards
>>2359359but in seriousness, if she was willing to sex, she would wind up with an assortment of bastards and at least one STI, CK3 AI is in permahorny mode. Really, her and her mother should probably both be in "disappeared without a trace" death mode.
When's the Regula Magistri update?
Feels like so much of the semi-recent stuff in this game is just a complete mystery with little to no documentation.Like this decision for example. It's been over a year since the DLC released yet there's nothing about this anywhere. It's not in the dev diaries, it's not on the wiki. Shouldn't some autist have written something about this there by now? It seems to default to asking the Pope which depends on his opinion of you and he can give you 4500 special soldiers for the war only which is very cool but I have no idea what triggers it to cause a crusade or how that crusade involves you if it does at all
>>2359353In the original mod, she was celibate. It's what the other guy said + the fact she refuses to marry in Skyrim, as a result of Molag Bal rape trauma.
the fuck they did to ek2? mannimarco seems to be missing, blacked systres, hlaalu is now 2 duchies, removed some cool theocratic realms I liked to vassalizewhat gives?
>>2359916I haven't played it in a while so I couldn't say I know they did some weird shit to the systres that people seethed about heavily but they refused to change
>>2359916>mannimarco seems to be missinghe's tucked inside of a mountain range now, I think about southwest of thunder falls or w/e it's called>blacked systresthey doubled down on the weird decision to axe that culture from the mod, but considering all the shit they've dumped into Bretons recently particularly Witchman, I'm hopeful that they'll compensate. I know diddly shit about how the Systres was depicted in ESO but what little I did hear was like what, witch knights? Druidy fucks? It seems absolutely baffling that they wouldn't give them something exotic at some point with their own little namelist. If we're going with meme tier names like with the fucking Northman digivolving into Boers, I'd say give them some Manx names alongside Jamaican because FUCK IT.>Hlaalu is now 2 duchiesrip>removed some cool theocratic realms I liked to vassalizeI've never played in Morrowind proper, can you circle where they were roughly on the map?
>>2359929I meant the ones in cyrodiil like zenithar's abbey near leywaiin or that knights of the eight near skingrad
>>2359929also as for systres there was druid controlled island and there was breton one, which they weren't really that much special from what I recall just more knightly/feudal (though that could be just comparing release eso and late eso which added systres)there was also prison island but that one didn't had much settled presence
speaking of druuds though IDK if it's actually related to druuds>...bretons will be getting new faith to represent religion before Empire and Divines>That's why next update won't be compatiblequoting one of the ek2 devs in their ck3 channelso that's happening, hadn't seen hide or hair of further information about that myself though beyond it being next patch>>2359962ah, shit I didn't even know knights of the eight existed
>>2359353>character famously refuses to enter relationships>mod devs take steps to prevent her from entering relationshipswhat are you, some kind of jokester?
speaking of, what is that mythical mod that stops all realms in EK being equal? I can't find it myself
>>2359976this one?https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3454493791also pretty funny the AI shits itself when women are the main heirs.
JAMS MOD FOR EK2 DISAPPEARD!!!! IM GONA ZERO SUM MYSELF!!!!!!
>>2360116Does Steam auto deletes the mod from your PC when this happens?
>>2360124seems so. i tried installing it from the nexus but it doesnt seem to work
>>2360126nvm got it to work, was missing a path in the descriptor mod
>>2345712No.If you want a historical strategy experience CK2 blows CK3 out of water. If you want feudal or government dynamics CK2 blows CK3 out the water. Even if you just want to do a boring tall game that CK3 players are so fond of CK2 tall play blows CK3 tall play out the water too. Nothing added to CK3 over the last 6 years has moved the game any closer to any kind of meaningful strategy or historical realism.CK3 is a wish fulfilment sandbox game with a medieval theme. You're meant to play it more like the sims, where you just use all the surface level shallow mechanics to achieve whatever stupid outcomes you desire.
>AGOT update>le dragon bonus is now instantgreat another targwank update
>>2359613There are many things not documented well or on the wiki. Like that syrian nestorian kingdom the dev diaries mentioned last year gives a house or dynasty modifier (cant recall which) witj different options but it still isn’t on the wiki.
>new patch released yesterday>first update since january>only notes are for 3 paid mods being added>no bugfixes, balance changes etc
>>2345712ck3 byzantines are far better even if most certainly not perfect
my favorite realm in ck2 is the HRE because I like the realm color and the CoAif I'm playing in Europe and I'm NOT the HRE, then it's my goal to become it, usually followed by taking Rome from the pope and making it my capital
>>2360426I hear the china expansion messed up the byz government by adding the new treasury system to it which should be good in theory but is broken currently since the byz system wasn’t built with that in mind.
>>2360528You heard right
>>2360528I'm gonna be honest idk what's broken with it it seems fine to mebut I don't actually know how it works on a deeper levelI like it conceptually since it's closer to how the byzantines worked since government salaries were super important
>>2360571Someone earlier in the thread was saying the treasury salary allocation was broken on inheritance
>>2360588haven't experienced that personally it's not too hard to change it whenever anyway
>>2360588Among other ways it being broken. My favorite probably involves AI compulsively embezzling and since that is crime killing their own heir.
Decided to launch a good old Barristan Selmy campaign in CK2 AGOT. Initially the goal was to create a kingdom of the Dornish Marches, but I got caught up in an early revival of dragons and eternal war between an independant Stormland who dragon conquest a lot in Essos, the Iron Throne, and one of my heir getting a child of destiny event but abandonning me to launch an adventurer conquest of Ghis.Eventually the Baratheon storm king murdered my character because he was at war with my character's mother, and my new character enacted the TOTAL BARATHEON DEATH protocol on the Stormlands, killing 5 of his relative in the field and getting 9 more in his dungeon.Now that the Iron Thrones lost its dragons I'm just going to fix this bordergore and then moving on to another campaign.
>>2359353>>2359359>>2359368>>2359643>>2359972>you will never stick your cock in Serana's vampussy, while she sticks her fangs in your neck
>>2360892what's that from
Are outdated mods still working since the update was just cosmetic shit?
>the treasure hunt quest that lets you choose a location can be repeated indefinitely as a loot pinata so long as you never send the artifact backlol>>2360954I can vouch EK2 works at least
>>2360991should've posted this image instead, clarifying7 alessian weapons so faralso for some weird reason captcha kept saying "expired" despite just clicking it, had to navigate to banned page and that let me solve some penguin-crossing-a-road captcha, came back and it let captchas solve again. In case anyone else gets that shit.
>>2361000also, you can reroll quest locations for it>enter planning>see shit destination through pestilence and filth>exit planning, reenter>destination regenned, could be as close as directly next province over from campapparently it'll slip artifacts to you without flare too, I have two daedric armors idk where the fuck I got them
>>2361031aight just got handed "75 gold" and checking inventory it handed off Mehrune's Razor because of course it did
>>2360926vanitas
Also the war CBs for duchies that the latins and byzantines are supposed to get after the 4th crusade shown in the dev diary is just not there at all. I don't know if that's a bug on my end for some reason or if it just doesn't exist. Nobody ever talks about it.
I hate nomads
when the fuck are they releasing ACOK and AFFC start dates for AGOT
>>2361373I can release ACOK for you right now bby
>>2359353>>2360892Convert to a religion that allows concubines, abduct her -> make concubine. This causes her to lose the celibate trait. You can then marry her. You can't seduce her, because she's asexual, but you should still be able to get her pregnant over time especially if you give her fertility boosting items (Lamae Bal is also a vampire and has similar fertility penalties and gets pregnant extremely easily).
>>2360892>not making your vampire gf beg to suck on your bloody fingers insteadngmi
I'll be dumping my AAR today, so filter me if you want to avoid my wordvomit{Count Eudes Robertine of Anjou}Eudes, son of Robert the Strong, was the count of Anjou, Samur, and Chartres. Only 10 years old, he had received his counties when his father had been slain by the viking warlord Hæsteinn the previous year at Brissarthe, one that had given the Norsemen the mouth the the Loire while maintaining Brenton control of Anjou's western borders. While it was Frankish custom to succeed the appointments of one's father, Eudes (or Odo) was underage and so his duchy had been confirmed to Hugo Welf, his half-brother through their mother Adelaide, with Eudes and his brother Robert being the Strong's immediate children. Having been confirmed to his father's lands in the Argengau, Hugo would remain mostly in the east, in Auxerre and Nevers, more preferable to the Yonne than the Loire. Thus, Eudes would be under the wardship of his elder half-sister, Bertha, who had some political sense in her: while the Robertines had done well for themselves and Neustria, Eudes was not the cream of Frankish nobility. Amongst possible matches in the realm, there were few eligible maidens who could serve Anjou, but for a low courtier in the Bellacin court of Prince Louis, whom would, at least, provide Eudes an entrance into the future-king's companions. Meanwhile, Bertha was not idle herself, having taken a husband in a miles by the name of Angelbert, that, while common-born, was a decent soldier: one who could teach Eudes what his deceased father could not. Squiring for many years while Roi Charles feuded with his kinsmen in Lotharingia, Eudes was excited when he heard that a great horde of Norsemen had invaded Flanders. Whilst they were unsure if Hæsteinn was amongst their number, the chance to learn what it was to fight the northmen would be valuable experience indeed.
>>2361785Instead of cleaning half-uncle Angelbert’s sword of blood, Eudes would merely clean it of rust: Roi Charles was more interested in Lotharingia, and so Eudes would come of age and receive the honor of Hugo’s council without any pagan blood. He would also take his wife, Heloise, who, while 7 years his senior, was appreciative enough of him and his manners. It wouldn’t be until the winter of 873 that the Frankish armies would finally finish their petty squabbles and make for Flanders, which had already been ravaged by the invading host. Roi Charles’ host would be accompanied by the King of Alba, Causantin Ailpin, who took Eudes under his wing, for this was his first time truly leading the Angevin men. In some way, the delay had proved fruitful: the Norsemen had been starved by the winter, and the swamps of Flanders hadn’t contributed to their supply. They had been forced to Lille, whose castle along the Leie was well stockpiled and defended. Lead by the miles from Bourbon, an excited cavalry charge took the enemy by surprise, and the force was destroyed with few issues--besides half-uncle Angelbert, whose maile now needed to be cleaned of his own blood.
>>2361786With parting words from the King of Alba, passing sympathies and prayers unto Bertha, Eudes return to Anjou came with the displeasing news that Hæsteinn had been sighted in Wales, apparently seizing a large portion of its northern lands. Fearing his return with veteran forces, the summer of 874 was spent drilling the Angevin army, for there was much that Eudes had learned from Causantin about fighting the Norsemen. However, by All Saints' Day, it turned out he had another reason to celebrate: Hæsteinn‘s armies had been vanquished the warlord had been forced to flee the field, all but his closest allies abandoning him--or dead!His lands driven into anarchy, Eudes was eager to test his new forces in Montaigu, seizing advantage over Hæsteinn’s former servants, but also contesting, and overpowering, the Duke of Poitiers, who had also attempted to steal Robert the Strong’s lands. Though suffering a gash across the face, Eudes would overcome Barthelemi and the remaining Norsemen, returning Montaigu into his domain.With that accounted for, Eudes could then look at other affairs, such as that of his brother, Robert, whom had been in the care of his other half-brother, Konrad Welf of Savoy. Indeed, one of Eudes’ ideas was that he could form an alliance with the King of Alba by betrothing Robert to one of the many daughters that Causantin had talked about. But that arrangement could wait for another day, for Heloise’s pregnancy had been premature, once again, and, to recover her spirits, Eudes sought to give her a comforting feast with all of her friends.(3/4)
>>2361788However, it would be a different kind of feast to remember, for Eudes’ wine had been spiked--cursed with some poison, no doubt planted by that gutless coward, Hæsteinn. How it had happened would be debated by many historians, for it was highly improbable that a viking servant would be able to infiltrate Anjou and deliver such a stealthy blow to his rival’s son, but the undisputed fact was that all blame, and anger, was directed towards the landless Norseman.{Count Ruprecht Robertine II of Anjou; r.877 - [878]}Robert, or Ruprecht as Konrad called him, tried to understand the news of his brother’s passing, for he had never met his brother in Savoy. It had only been a few times that he had met Eudes in Auxerre, for Konrad had been attending to some business with Hugo and had brought him along. He had never anticipated becoming the Count of Anjou, but, receiving its honors and appointments from his eldest half-brother, and, while Bertha would remain in control over the house over the Loire, and Konrad would teach Robert to rule his house, to lead men in war, and to hate the man who had killed both his father and his brother. At least there was one last gift that had been left by Eudes: a betrothal to Der-Ilei MacCausantin, and, with her hand, the armies of the King of Alba, whom would prove worthwhile allies in the years to come.(4/4)More will come later but I have to finish editing
>>2361373probably after the rest of essos
>>2361789{Count Ruprecht Robertine II of Anjou}Robert, son of Robert the Strong, count of Anjou, was a boy caught between several words. To his immediacy was his half-brother, Hugo of Auxerre, who had presided over Anjou since the death of his father. Meanwhile, he had been raised in the German way by his other half-brother, Konrad of Savoy who served Roi Louis “the Younger” of Italy, rather than Roi Charles’ court. He had enjoyed his youth, split between Moûtiers, Ivrea, and Geneva, and he even commonly went more by Ruprecht than his birth name of Robert, and had been tutored in the ways of war, paging for his half-brother--something he would continue whilst his half-sister Bertha managed Anjou, just like she had during Eudes’ minority.It is from both Eudes’ and Robert’s memories that Ruprecht found his strength: both had been killed by the viking warlord Hæsteinn; the former by poison and the latter by an axe. Ruprecht, one day, would avenge them, in some way.(1/9)
>>2361890But the advantage would be Ruprecht’s, for Hæsteinn had lost his warhosts and, according to the Scottish merchants who braved the Irish Sea, and had taken up the company of the Chief of Mon, a depraved and cowardly viking, only second to Hæsteinn. With his life still to grow, Ruprecht was taught the ways of war, and, while Konrad did not serve in Roi Charles’ war against the Muhammadans in Iberia, he was quick to study and learn from them. Ransoming his uncle Eudes from the Sultan’s dungeons, Ruprecht was inquisitive of the aged soldier, learning much of what Konrad could not teach him. His eagerness for combat left him somewhat disappointed when he came of age after the war’s conclusion, though seeking out the veterans in Auxerre soon earned him a good reputation not only for strategy, but for logistics: like his brother before him, he was appointed as marshal by his half-brother Hugues.
>>2361898However, somewhat embarrassingly for a marshal, Hugues would be beset by bandits within his own domain. While they were unable to steal his treasury, they did hit the Duke quite firmly, in fact, that knocked his mind loose--and there was some suspicions from his wife, Amelie de Menthon, that it had been a ploy by Ruprecht to reclaim Robert the Strong’s honors. That had never been any intent of Ruprecht, but the thought was enticing in the back of his mind, and would germinate for some time.For, at the front of his mind, there were more pressing worries: somehow, Hæsteinn had returned with a large force that intended to conquer Brittany and, having secured a foothold in Léon, seemed like he would overpower Ulfret mab Alfrond if no assistance arrived from Causantin. Seeing an opportunity for Roi Charles to display his authority over that peninsula, and perhaps gain some recognition at the same time, Ruprecht went to a royal recital, hosted in Normandy, to plead his case against the Norsemen. His words fell upon many appealing ears, for many had suffered from the previous northmen invasions, but, as men began to rally behind Ruprecht, their enthusiasm faltered, for Causantin had arrived and defeated the Norsemen at Luigné, a victory that put an end to Hæsteinn’s ambitions. (3/9)
>>2361901Still, Ruprecht’s words had been appreciated and he was invited to speak with Archbishop Guethenhoiarn about his mission to defeat the vikings, which elevated his place beyond that of just a mere count. In fact, it had given him a series of new contacts: former warriors who were more than willing to take Frankish silver to rid the world of Robert the Strong’s killer. His determination would soon be put to the test, for King Causantin now found himself under siege from Ivar “the Boneless” of Suðreyjar, aiming to secure a hold on Inverness. Mustering out alongside Ulfret mab Alfrond, who disliked the aggressive Angevin and made him seek his own trainsport, Ruprecht sailed to Argyll, dispatching his contracted men to Man en route--who would later report back with news of Hæsteinn’s death, poisoned in the same way that he had killed Eudes.That victory raised morale within the Gaelic-Brenton-Frankish forces, as much as the arrival of an expedition from East Francia, with Count Udalrich of Breisgau leading the army of Oldenburg, experienced fighters against both vikings and the pagans of the east. Ruprecht was quick to strike up a friendship with the Swabian and learn of his kingdom’s strategies in combating the Northmen. (4/9)
>>2361906However, the year’s campaign season would be wasted by the pointless bickering of too many nobles, for a united force was needed to defeat the vikings, but no united front could be presented. While the lowlands were clear of Ivar’s men, the norsemen retained their position in the highlands, apparently fortifying Inverness and its length up to the Loch. From there, they expanded south, taking the hills and the glens, and, as the armies of Christendom debated and argued, Causantin’s family was seized from Scone, prompting the King of Alba’s formal surrender to the Boneless.Returning to Francia with some nominal pleasure in avenging Eudes, Ruprecht was then called into other family matters: King Louis of Italy had died, and his realm had been split between his daughters: Ermengarde would retain Italy, but her sister, the 14 year old Isabeau, would take reign over Provence and Savoy--something that Konrad Welf saw as inopportune. Having been fighting for the length of Ruprecht’s time in Scotland, the Ermengarde’s support had been a great challenge for the Savoyard, but Ruprecht believed he could repay his mentor with his experienced soldiers. (5/9)
>>2361908One particular ally in this fight would be Ruprecht’s nephew Wolfgang, though, Ruprecht spent little time with him, fighting the Provencals on the right bank of the Rhone while the Auxerrans took the left with the Savoyards. That would, unfortunately, leave them prey to Ermengarde’s forces, and, by the end of the season, Konrad and Wolfgang were defeated by the Empress, for the Karling sought to make claim on Charlemagne’s legacy over Rome. Too late to save his mentor, Ruprecht was further saddened when he passed away, ending the conflict, for his daughter, the hunchbacked Adelaide, bowed her head to Isabeau. Some would say it dishonored Konrad’s memory, but the Welfen of Savoy were already on their last legs: it was a fight they never could’ve won.(6/9)
>>2361911With Ermengarde’s proclamation of Emperor, Karl, who had united East Francia with the rebellious Bavarians, made his own play at Charlemagne’s honors, proclaiming a letter of recognition by the Papacy--though there is no good evidence to prove that was true: he was sort of a madman, if not zealous. Regardless, the usurpation of order in the Frankish realms would also be seen in Anjou, for Wolfgang’s losses alongside Konrad had devastated the Duke’s army, wheras the Angevin army had only minor losses against the Provencal garrisons. If there was any time for Ruprecht push his claim to his father’s titles, especially since Hugues had only received them for Odo’s minority. Though it would require some planning, for Causantin’s forces had recovered since his loss to the norsemen and only a portion could be sent when there were vikings on in the highlands. Adelaide's Savoyards were as weak as Wolfgang's, so there was little to be trusted from Burgundy. Meanwhile, those two successive campaigns hadn’t given gains to Ruprecht’s treasury, but there were some mercenaries willing to sell themselves cheaply: there were 400 Westmorland huscarls who needed to recover their gambling debts. Meanwhile, Wolfgang had allies in Poitiers and Flanders who were much closer, and so Ruprecht would have to be discreet in gathering his army--which was, unfortunately, not successful. Rather than be surrounded, Ruprecht made the tough decision to along the Brenton marches, avoiding Ulfret mab Alfrond’s eye, attempting to link up at Saint-Malo, but he was intercepted outside of Combourg, notably by a set of Wolfgang's own Anglo-Saxon mercenaries However, the strategic dance of posture and positioning lasted just long enough for Ruprecht's allies to arrive: outnumbering the Auxerran alliance 3:2, Count Lothaire of Poitiers gave way to Ruprecht.(7/9)
>>2361914What followed was a pleasing series of successes for Ruprecht, for the Angevins, Gaels, and Westmorland Roebucks would strike at Wolfgang’s divided forces and take their castles, while the Savoyards contributed little to the campaign. It would drag on for several years, but without any serious losses for Ruprecht’s forces, there were few further battles of particular note, besides Blois, which ended any resistance from Wolfgang, capturing Lothaire d’Auxerre, the most competent commander of his force. In the meanwhile, Roi Louis, the grandson of Charles “the Bald” (Louis “the Stammerer had been slain in battle during Eudes’ days) sought that his kingdom should be organized as one coherent bloc: unlike Provencal Burgundy’s split from Italia, the future heirs of Francia wouldn’t split Langueoïl and Languedoc. With the victory at Blois, Wolfgang agreed to confer the honors of his duchy, and kingly immediacy, upon Ruprecht, as was his rightful succession. In turn, the Duke of Anjou rewarded his allies, gifting Causantin horses and paying the Roebuck’s debts, as all honorable men should do.(8/9)
>>2361918While there were ducal duties to perform, the most immediate was that of royal prerogative: attending a melee in Reims, Ruprecht met with his king to confirm his oaths and titles, rightfully obtained, before joining with his cousin Eudes of Bourbon, winning the tourney. However, the time spent in along the Vesle had given time for Wolfgang’s friends to gather arms for their feud, particularly with the backing of Ulfret mab Alfrond, who hated nothing more than a strong Angevin duke on his borders, once again. While the de Cornouaille wasn’t related to King Salomon, who had allied with Hæsteinn against Robert the Strong, Ruprecht’s animosity was just the same.Much like his earlier war against Wolfgang, his enemies were near and his allies were far: while glories and titles could be won, holding them would be hard.(9/9)
Anyone here play with obfusCKate? How do you deal with faction members?
>>2344418>I "centralize" the tribe by giving my subjects more power over the realm... wat?>they hate me for it>the sole benefit is a meager vassal limit increase, which makes no sense with the whole "centralization" thingcan someone explain me the retardation behind this? this looks like some gamey bullshit to make it more difficult to reform a tribe
>>2361927it gives a vassal limit increase because you've got more centralized control and like some kind of bureaucracy to take account of your minions idk
>>2361927It doesn't give your vassals more power over the realm.It gives you (and your vassals) more power over your vassals and each other. It's basically saying that "rather than being a loose coalition of tribes who rely on the NAP to deal with each other, lets actually make some laws and whoever we vote isn't following the law we can legally strip their rights away instead of deciding everything through violence". You're making a feudal government out of pagan warlords who don't want to answer to some made-up law youre creating and are probably gonna use agains them eventually.
>>2361935>>2361937I'm retarded. this is tribal organization, not centralization. my bad
>>2361927To me, the worst ones to deal with are the title grant and revocation committees.Even vassals who are not loyal will be on board with you on the vast majority of war declarations because the vassals are glory seekers, greedy, good ole pragmatists or because the enemy is of a different religion/culture. With imprisonment they usually don't interfere as well unless it's tyrannical. But good luck granting a title to that midas touched, erudite, high learning courtier of yours when your vassals dislike him for some bullshit personal reason or because they want the title for themselves instead.
>>2362083So.... what's stopping you from kicking their teeth in while plowing their wife? And mother. And daughter. And possibly their son and heir if you're so inclined.
>>2362083yeah I remember sitting over demesne limit because my vassals didn't allow me to grant land
>>2344418Any 'must have' mods for CKIII?So far I see:>More Family Relations>Character UI Overhaul>Name Plates>Smaller Knights>Smaller CourtWhat else? Any Bugfix/Patch/Balance mods?
>>2361924it really has almost no impact. not worth it reallyfor your own courtiers you pretty much already know exactly if they are good or not with the ABC ranking and foreign characters you almost never know anything about them with no way to learn morethe concept sounds interesting but actually using it you quickly realise that it does not add anything to the gameplay at all
>>2362172https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/42650-interracial-takeover-3rd-edition/
>>2362295Fascinating.
how do you play for more than 1/2 characters without getting bored? as soon as i hit kingdom tier the game is basically already over
>>2362723I guess you're treating it like a proper strategy game instead of sims. Stop optimizing or map painting the entire thing and have some fun.
>>2362723>choose new characteron successionI'm more bothered of the probability of the new ruler being a total fuckup desu, it would make me feel like I did a shitty job
>>2362728I play with RICE etc and try my best to roleplay with my traits but after a while there is genuinely nothing else to do, the game is still barebones somehow
>>2362172https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/30841-phazes-futanari-mod/
What the fuck is a 'Vigman'? I mean, where does the terminology/etymology for it come from? Viking and Hirdman? I can't find anything about it online. Did they just make up a word for it?
>>2362746Víg means fight/battle in Old Norse, so Vígman would probably be a general term for warrior or fighter.https://cleasby-vigfusson-dictionary.vercel.app/word/vig
Apparently it is a real hypernationalistic Japanese meme that the half-brother of Minamoto no Yoritomo, the man who established the Kamakura regime, fled to mainland Asia and became the Great Khan?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamoto_no_Yoshitsune#Rumors_and_legendAnyone done this as a stupid joke campaign yet?
>>2362760That makes sense. Thanks Anon.
>>2362728there's only so many times you can click on the same buttons and read through the exact same things whilst enjoying it
fucking finally
>>2362779>>2362733Fair. Stow it away for awhile and play something else then? Surely your backlog isn't empty.
>>2362766>fled to mainland Asia and became the Great Khan?I mean, he did have the power of the Amahagane. It's totally believable.
Is meritocratic gov fun?
>>2362898When the fuck are they adding commands to allied armies?
>>2363081Only fun you'll find in asia involves horsefuckers and maybe siam going not feudal godking.
what happened to /gsg/
>>2362898why do they insist on including pregnant knights?Like you'd think pregnancy would automatically disable them.>muh that one legend about 9 month pregnant vikign warrioryeah, but maybe the exception should not made the norm?
>>2363230I'd really love if they added a checkbox for mothers period, I wouldn't feel nearly as bad about equal martial if I could control for that without having to constantly scour knight list
>>2363230Being pregnant is only a -2 prowess debuff same as being a drunkard
Do the japanese understand just how close their people were to being conquered by brutal foreign barbarians?I concede that japanese terrain is very defensive and not suitable for nomad cavalry tactics, but mongols were highly adaptive as shown in their conquest of Jin/Song China and let's be real if the mongols landed a big army the samurai were toast.
>>2363391tengri did not will it
>three month wait for a shitty ledger updateDead game.
>>2363584I'm hopeful they bother updating ruler designer to by default let me choose to make a character have a specific body build without rerolling like hell or praying a mod lets me select such things without crashing
>>2363391Yes hence why they attribute the storm that saved them to the divine, the kamikaze.
Just found out paradox finally fixed hybrid cultures being 90% white a few patches ago
>>2363630It feels like most people are under the impression that the samurai had a fighting chance against the mongols if it weren't for the typhoon.I don't know how good the samurai were at the time but from what I've read they expected "honorable" 1v1 fighting and were taken aback by the combat style of the mongols with it's full unit engagement, keep away strategy and lots of deceiving tactics and feigned retreats.I think the japanese rulers didn't fully grasp what they were dealing with.
>>2363812eh that was probably a load of bullshit with the 1v1 thing, though I'd be curious how they'd fare centuries off from having dealt with Emishi though admittedly I only say that from having learned about those from fuckin MAA existing
>>2363391Mongols could not even hold Korea, even if they had occupied some part of Japan, they could not have hold very long
>>2362295WTF are we doing here exactly
>>2354236Jewish company
>>2352216The British ain't the Chinese
>>2363391>>2363812Overseas operations are seldom easy, especially when you're not a seafaring culture. And the Mongols were reliant mainly on dogshit Chinese sailors, and preyed mainly on cultures that were in favourable terrain and/or undergoing severe social upheavals. They did well in the Chinese plains, the Russian plains & steppe, in peripheral areas near the Eurasian steppe, and in the Carpathian basin. They did poorly in densely forested & hilly regions, such as Vietnam, where cavalry was less manoeuvrable, grazing land was more scarce, and the locals were more adapted to a landscape that the Mongols were not.In Japan, a forested, hilly country, they would have been out of their element. And they weren't stupid, after operating there for a while they would have concluded it wasn't worth the losses / expense to try conquering, just as they did in Vietnam and Hungary.>"honourable" 1v1 fightingThe Japanese weren't stupid either, nobody expected that.
>The relative peace in Japan during the Kamakura period favored ideas of honor in battle, expressed in customs such as announcing one's family name and/or lineages before fighting, attempting to limit fights among warrior nobles to horseback archery or sword[16] duels[17] with no subterfuge or trickery, and conducting oneself like a legendary character or renowned hero (tales of daring were popular in the Kamakura period[18]).[19][20] Pre-bushido honor codes during this time were also contributed to by commoners, who sometimes took on similar roles to samurai[14] and often used their family names as introductions to fighting despite not being noble.[20] However, even during the relatively small family and land quarrels of this time, as well as duels thought to be honorable, warriors often disregarded these norms of combat and the announcement of family names or lineages was mostly a way to brag and assert a right to fight and/or gain whatever a faction was looking for after a fight.[19][20] Outright bragging was also known to happen.[13] These already tenuous codes of honor were weakened when the Japanese, expecting the invading Mongols to be laid-back with their combat, humiliatingly sent an envoy that fired a noisemaker arrow to officially commence the start of what the Japanese assumed would be a series of small duels and skirmishes.[20] Additionally, Mongols usually cut swathes through soldiers that attempted to announce their lineages before facing them.[19] Despite ultimately winning against the Mongols, these honor norms, along with the shogunate, were weakened enough to cause endemic division that led to the end of the Kamakura period and the court wars of the Nanboku-chō period.lmao
do you think if I changed this value to 1000% something fucky would happencause Imma do itfuck them smurfs
>>2364048it didn't magically turn falmer-nord hybrids into all having falmer skin and some of the kids are still jank-ass smurfs, fuck
>>2363391>Do the japanese understand just how close their people were to being conquered by brutal foreign barbarians?Yeah that's why the kamikaze typhoon has such significance there
>>2359392kek, I can't believe I'm getting called out on 4chanFYI, I'm playing Mewgenics atm, also some Stellaris 4.3Maybe I'll add a megenics themed meme event
did they ever fix the decision to found a witch convent or is it still impossible to get enough of your dynasty on board if you don't do it in the first ten years of the game
>>2364191Unironically skill issue.
>>2364201I'm sorry that when I have three thousand dynasts it's very hard to get to the 60% threshold
>>2364209excuse me*house members, not dynasts
>>2364209Let them split into cadet houses?
>>2364215I do, but the main branch repopulates faster than the cadets can split off :(
>>2345459Mani is but a small part of the county of Monemvasia in CK3 which was majority Christian at the time.
>>2364216Sounds like a you problem. Have you tried fixing your decision to have skill issues?
Why do these faggot modders keep disabling the comments in the workshop? They don't even bother posting the changelog
>>2364653>my very important opinion must be heard!apparently not lmao
Is there any way to make escaping from prison harder? The game literally punishes you for not stripping everyone of their titles as soon as you imprison them even though usually the best option is to throw them in the dungeons
>>2362746>did they just make it up?A shocking, SHOCKING amount of special units are shut that they just pulled out of their ass.
>>2364653they prolly just don't want to deal with steam commentsoriginally I was perturbed at it, didn't feel transparent at all, like I wouldn't be able to gauge general opinion or even see if they were doing fishy shit, but after a while I understood it more and more. A lot of players are really fucking whiny and stupid, not to mention there seems to be an uptic in recent years of lying bitches that eat hot shit and lie all over the place.my main gripe remains "I don't like having to join some discord just to get a drip feed on what's what", but maybe in light of the privacy thing that'll change a bit. Hopefully not just funneling people into yet another platform that wasn't intended as a long-term forumultimately it's their own thing at the end of the day and if they don't wanna they don't wanna.
>>2364653>>2364716It's because they want to maintain their faggo-tranny echochamber and have zero dissent of any kind. There's literally zero drawback to having open steam comments as a mod dev.
>>2364743lol
>Godhreja mod team is making a /tg/ system>Updates still once in five yearsTNO curse followed them.
>>2364653Bro just join their groomcord bro
So Provision Use -x% reduces the cost of traveling over terrain with your camp and Provisions Loss -x% reduces the total cost of traveling? What shitty wording.
>>2365004I've been assuming it's broken & not working and ignoring that modifier entirely, wasn't even aware there were two versions
>>2365025I've seen people saying they are the same thing before or that one has no effect at all and never really checked into it. I finally noticed the actual effect when playing with the Princes of Darkness mod, because they've nerfed everything so hard that provision cost for MaAs ends up being outrageous, so what things are doing what becomes more apparent. Provision Use reduction is pretty much shit and shouldn't be sought out in perks for sure, because the terrain cost is a fraction of the travel cost in most cases.
>marry a stag as a targ>two black haired sonhuh...?
Might play as Volga Bulgaria.Irl the Bulgars traded with Vikings, Byzantium, The Caliphate, and China. They'd transport Balt and Slav slaves down all the way to the Andalusian Moors.Their capital was apparently on par with any city in the Middle East.Massively underrated in terms of economic and trade power, moving people and goods in medieval times, even if today it's a total shithole.It better be possible to recreate it's economic prowess...
>>2365361>economic and trade power>ck3lol
Best Buddhist faiths?
>>2365361At least prior to khans of the steppe the economy thing was a very easy No, I don't know how it is now. Maybe could do some real gamey shit and yoink Admin Horde government assuming a game rule doesn't automatically do thatif there's ever a Turkish DLC can only pray they get special attention beyond a special building. I feel doubt they would touch on it with a trade DLC but who knows with the Swedes' priorities.
First time playing, does anyone knows say if there's a crusade against an Ash'ari Islamic realm, will only Ash'aris defend against it? Or all Sunnis who have the caliph as head of their religion?
>>2365319The sneed is strong.
>>2344418Swedish psychological horror
Why did I get zero war contribution as a landless mercenary? I had 350 elite mounted cavalry and I assisted in 1k vs 1k war where my character not only ended up leading most of the battles, but also swinging the favor so badly my side took almost zero casualties. I attached my forces to the largest company my side had
>>2365775IIRC seiging holdings guarantees you get counted as participating, I had to do that myself a bit back though I forgot if that was vanilla or a total conversion modalso Attaching might be fucky depending on who is considered to be leading the battle
apparently in EK2 if you're using some liturgical language faith like some Dunmer shit or like Tsaesci, the request realm priest decision doesn't show up unless one of your non-priest councilor slots is emptyso just fire some guy briefly and it'll work again
>ck3agot>It is the year 225 AC>Daeron the 'Good' is almost dead>Prince Valarr is set to inherit the throne>Daeron and his Ironborn wife suddenly shat out another son at the age of 71>dies>fucking Shiera declares the toddler king>second dance of dragon>Valarr loses because the reach is fucking opwhew
As a new player is CK3 a good game to get into, any tl;dr pros and cons with the game?
>>2366582Just play the game dipshit. It ain't rocket science.
>notice CK2 WtWSMS has an updated fork>they fixed Proclus so he's no longer erroneously theocraticoh hell yeah time to play as the Neopl-->remember he is childless, elderly, and celibate and chaste simultaneously>also no way to even pick him without console short of getting lucky with random ruler selectionoh
>>2366770Just play as Boethius as a Consolation
>>2364653I make mods. Workshop comments are garbage. Sub-50 IQ takes all day every day.>>2364847Still genuinely better than Workshop comments.
I think I need to stop paying attention to ek2's discord conversations so I can have an easier time just enjoying the mod for what it is and the work put into it, independent of their takes on things external the mod itself
>>2366928You should've always done that. The woke crap in EK1 and 2 that they shove in can easily be modified out as long as you're not illiterate and are capable of tweaking a few lines. I did the same for ATE in CK2 when I removed the homo/bisexual trait, the ridiculous female clerical church in Canada and some other minor things I've forgotten.
>>2366582CK3 is so easy that a child can play it, Everything is handed to you because the AI is incapable of using basic game mechanics and will crumble all around you due to global gavelkind.
>attempt an eastern european tribal run>eastern europe is almost completely taken by nomadic hordes in a few decades>be the only significant tribal leader left in the region, with a decently sized kingdom and a tribal army of 8k, 1.5k of those being light cavalry from my retinues>vassal khan of neighboring horde attacks>4.3k army, 3k being light cavalry and 1.3k horse archers>let them siege a few provinces and rally all my troops in favorable terrain>they attack>despite superior numbers and favorable terrain, my army is FLATTENED>5k dead on my side, 700 on theirs>they regenerate at a rate of 200 per monthI ragequit and deleted my save.
>>2367144wish I'd thought to spitball "Tennessee Titans" and the Parthenon in Nashville at the original ate guy happened to be popping into gsg early into development. Maybe would've just been an eye-roller since yet another person asking for greek paganism somewhere in ck2 and might have amount to a greek twist to Fallout's Legion at the end of the day at best, but eh. I expect current ATE modders to just depict all the appalachians as inbred snake handling retards forever.
>>2367152appalachians and "riverlanders"*
>>2367151Unironically skill issue.
>>2367155HOW could it possibly be a skill issue?From the beginning of the run I did everything in preparation for the eventual wars against nomads. I expanded north against other tribals, amassed thousands of gold and built a large retinue with light cavalry SPECIFICALLY in preparation for nomads and it was all in vain because these stupid hordes are absolutely fucking broken.There is NO reliable way to beat nomads unless you are a nomad yourself. This is not fun.
>>2367159>mass light cavalry>against horse archers and heavy cavalry in steppes>w-why am i getting plowedWhy indeed.https://youtu.be/jM8dCGIm6yc?list=RDjM8dCGIm6yc
CK4 will release in (estimated) 2030 with the map as it is now.They'll add southern Africa and the Americas in a later DLC.>*basedjak expression* >"S-s-source!???"It came to me in a dream
>finally get to play CK3agot with friends>none of them gives a single shit about canon houses>make their own donut steel houses with 0 effort put into it to take over lord paramountcy title>metafaggotry ensues>begins to whine that the game is too easy while using every advantage possible>complains when I change the gamerule to be more difficult>now Westerlands is replaced by house gaynigger and the Vale by house stewardfaggotswhat's the fucking point? why would anyone play like this?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-194-realm-maintenance-2026-part-ii.1911816/
>>2367205I dunno, they are YOUR friends
>>2367205I make a nobody westerosi, elope with the one vain targ daughter once she's available in the oldest bookmark, and do merc shit over in Essos while seducing random women, maybe bounce back if things shatter desu
>>2367365>lifespan extension modifiers are going to be an even bigger ball and chain nowYippie
>minmaxers already malding because of the stewardship nerfGet fucked kek.
>>2367489>b-but how can I hyper stack all my MMA’s while ALSO not compromising my economic base?It’s a good change, tbqh
>>2367205I either play as the velaryion dude in the crowned stag start and fuck every widow and +30 old woman i find.Or i play as jaehaerys and make an eugenics program for the targs and pump out as many dragons as possible. Also remember to put cannibal in the cuckpit or he will fuck us up later.
>>2347578>>2347615>>2347808https://youtu.be/dPcNo4uxBRM?si=MNmnnBv8UbUF5AQ3&t=145You can generally have FOUR personality traits in the game from the get go as long as you raise your child right. Like, you can influence the child up to two times in childhood if you would want them to have at least one or two of your personality traits, then the childhood events that fire up when they're older and develop their own personality, it will add either two or three ones, depending on whether you managed to give only one or two personality traits growing up.
>>2354236>mfw Human Sacrifice isn't a core tenet of Judaism
>>2364766The dev team is unironically filled with transsexual junkies who talk about weed all the time. I've spoken to a guy who tried joining their team, and he said it was awful.
>>2367365What's the point in just adding extra debilitating illness bloatware like this to the game for extra micromanaging?Was "Infirm" not enough of a 'catch-all' type of trait for old age?This is actually retarded. I could see it being somewhat interesting maybe first or second run but if you start seeing it over and over again on each of your character, it would just get super annoying. I think I'd just end up going out of my way to have them kill themselves more often or just put them in a dangerous situation or choose the most dangerous event option possible just to have them killed as soon as possible so I don't have to deal with these traits that have massive downsides.There seems to be a game rule option that allows you to disable them at least, and makes it so "Infirm" is the only trait that elder characters could gain, just like before, but it's still retarded nonetheless and it's going to be activated by default.Maybe it would be interesting if it spawns on AI rulers and that gives you more interesting ways to go against them, but otherwise, this just seems like needless bloat similar to how some mods like that ChatGPT flavor pack adds hundreds of needless and random retarded personality traits and whatnot.
>>2344418this war is making me itch for a grand strategy game run.i've always wanted to try a Sardinia run but the discovery that superdukes don't join their kings when you declare a war on their duchies left me with a sour aftertaste.and bannerlord is still shit.and i can't go back to warband after experiencing the smoothness of bannerlord.and of course, CK3 is still shit with no boats or non-generic leviesthanks for reading my blog/blog
>>2367365I'm not sure about stewardship change. Seems like it will nerf tall playstyle while not really making it any more interesting. Current solution is not a fix, it's a band-aid. Also, the reasoning for it is pretty retarded. >People don't pick diplomatic options enough? Should we fix it? Nah, let's remove the main advantage of another playstyle.Imo, domain limit should go altogether. Make it so that both centralized Parisian France and hundred-of-counts Frankish Empire both have valid reasons for centralization/decentralization, and both have advantages and disadvantages. Sliders maybe? I really think whole thing should be more fluid, less set in stone>>2367402I could see the opposite happening - die young and play well-groomed heir instead of failing geriatric, but probably not, people tend to be rather sentimental about their character.>>2367659You rise a good point. Is this even valid for a game like this? How many kings actually went on to become blind Alzheimer cases, instead of dying from heart attack or stomach ulcer?
>>2367758heraclius or whatever was called the byzantine emperor, I recall by the time muslims conquered syria he was senile
>>2367635>no cultural tradition that lets you suck and eat baby penis
Fucking Forgotten Realms for CK3 when?!!??!?!
>>2367812two more weeks
>>2367649Trannies are comically tribal. They will always either recruit other trannies or attempt to convince others to troon out. Checks out, considering Panzer decided to troon out when he jumped ship to CK3.
>'recruit to spy' character that I want to agree to move to my court or otherwise be dealt with>their liege inevitably finds out, pretty quickly if they don't have high intrigue>reliable outcome between them being executed/imprisoned to a quick death/dismissed from court based on the liege and their opinion of + relation to the spy>snipe skilled marshals, commanders, stewards, doctors I want while still denying a useful ally to others if I can't get them>cripple neighboring rulers when their crucial council members get found out for spilling tea on petty unlanded romances and have to be punished for it>get loyal-but-guileless bodyguards of a nemesis gradually fired (and eventually replaced with high-intrigue ones with no qualms about 'honor' or accepting money to kill their liege)>any callous/sadistic leader can be baited into being deposed by widespread internal revolution by recruiting their family members and letting them make a show out of torturing/killing them and thus become a de-legitimized kinslayerlittlefinger's got nothing on me
What the hell is the Conqueror trait and why are there so many faggots with it in 900
>>2368037>playing 876lollmao
769 wasn't early enough. they should have made the only start be 632
>>2368037it rolls sometimes in an event for independent rulers with big domains, it's a bunch of buffs to allow them/you to get stupidly aggressive and kickstart snowballsdisable it being inherited to slow the bloat, heirs get the trait by default (even for AI)
>>2368049Idk i thought going from unwashed tribal to feudal would be kinda fun.>>2368056Ah you can disable it thank fuck. I got two of those bordering me and couldnt do literally anything.
I wish there was a mod that would let me create a secret cabal that rules the world from shadows in the game
Vgh....Elendil's vision, the legacy of Elros and Numenor secure forevermore...Tall ships and tall kingsThree times three,What brought they from the foundered landOver the flowing sea?Seven stars and seven stonesAnd one white tree.
>>2368037you probably left conqueror inheritance on, on top of the normal ratedesu idk why the hell it's heritable to begin with
>playing as a Saltcliffe bastard in Reign of the Conciliator>wind up beating up my dad, taking his title and creating a duchy title (also called Saltcliffe)>run through all of Pyke's county titles except Pyke itself>in the mean time raid Dorne cause Jaehaerys invades for a Kingdom Title>massive Greyjoy war for Pyke (County) & Under Islands Kingdom>Honestly it's kind of egregious how you can cheese this war so fucking easily, the AI will strait crossing themselves to death with shit tier troops>manage to get Red Rain>have so many Reavers and Mangonels I'm taking most castles in 3 months>get Lunatic>manage to defeat the Greyjoys, they move to the Goodbrother castle>raid Essos>invade the small islands to the north of me until I can claim the Iron Islands>win a much easier war, now the LP>start causing insurrections by trying to revoke the Greyjoy's county title>wind up killing almost every Greyjoy until only 4 remain, two are women who are married off (one to the LP Tully)>other two men are brothers who I sent to the Night's Watch>every other lord aside from my kids who I gave Duchy titles are fighting me>during this the Tully's try to rebel and I try to break away but they get shrekt>have literally every other Duchy lord imprisoned>revoke all of their titles>give my literal infant sons and grandsons duchy titles cause why not>decide to run out the clock until my character dies>massive rebellion against the Targs, literally everyone against them and they're trying to put a Stark on the Iron Throne>break away, Aemon says lolwhatever then calls me to war since we allied at some point>send my army to the North>cheese Winterfell, capture the Heir and the wannabe Rob's wife>turn his wife into my concubine, Aemon presses his demands>Aemon dies like three weeks later by being incinerated by Balerion>an aside the last true Saltcliffe that isn't 50 and barren is my great niece who dies beyond the wall
>>2368061https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3365606874
I just got this game, have formed the kingdom of ireland but don't quite fully control the landmass because scotland has a corner, I ended up in an alliance with them so I may as well just be friendly, they had a bigger army tooAnyway I suddenly had somebody come up to me and offer a secret about somebody else, that sure was a more wild secret than I expected
>>2368377and it seems in a moment I will get to do the actual crusading part of crusader kinging
>>2368388Oh that's neat, I ended up controlling a kid and I see a raising option I already saw from the subject perspective now, neat
>>2368388And I got some pretenders coming making demands while my troops are other side of the world, tragic
>>2368396Well in the end I indeed had to give up my kingdom although I kept my actual holdings, but between the debt I accrued foolishly trying to hold it off and my now weakened position I decided to take this option to play as this insteadI find it weird the person I sent was the one chosen to have Jerusalem itself since I had little contribution in the end, I started a siege I left before it finished, but I guess maybe since I got there earlier than everybody else I got given more scorealso surprised they allowed a woman to take this role
Wonderful snow in the desert.On an unrelated note: can someone explained to me why Mahayana and Zoroastrian faiths view each other as Astray while Mahayana and Shinto are mutually Hostile?
Reinstalled after a while and after a couple false starts, finally a proper run (With RICE, Merchant Republic the Papacy expansion, ObsCKure)This is Liubice (Lubeck) in 1066 with RICE, which are basically the Christian Polabian sons of St. Gottshcalk, who get kicked out by pagans, and you have to reclaim Polabia and kill Krutoj.But you start with an Alliance with Saxony so killing both them and Luticia is cakewalk. Problem is you are poor as shit and start with no MAA, so good luck if people decide to raid you. Also the Elbe floods. Budivoj is also not a great character, at least he has learning so he can maybe get the theologian line as starters so you can quickly convert.But with some luck and some Normans I survived and later formed the Kingdom. Though only on the second character (Budivoj's only taughter, an absolute Mary sue girlboss with like 30 Martial and 40 Prowess at one point), cause I was slow with my conquests and I needed also to kick the Swedes from Pomerania (and why Danes own Prussia and I only that bit of Latvia).Well, I had managed to bring the Baltics under tribute (which is probably from some mod somewhere, but makes sense), but then Novgorod got a Great Conqueror and kicked my ass out of there (cause my children kept dying and alliances fall apart). They still have that great conqueror, but they haven't done anything probably scared of that big hor to their east. I'm more scared of Genghis, so I, for a couple of reasons and also lore, cause this character married a German milf, joined the HRE. I don't think I am getting Baltic Empire any time soon anyway, plus I could join as a march and with war priviliges.Current plan is to conquer Denmark and to hybridize danes, a couple traditions for Polabia are useless and I want Huscarls and Seafarers for free. Also try to bang courtiers cause I have seen more miscarriages in three characters than my entire 300h of playtime.
Do you lads like the beauty mod?
Does my wife not count?
>>2368432UpdateI am going to torture every single one of my former vassals to death
>>2368432>Polabia>doesnt control Labelol
Is there a way to get a title in China with warfare, I got omega cucked after 60 years of studying because the empire exploded as i was planning to depose the emperor. I'm fucking done with the stupid merit.
>>2368440I fail to see whatever changes this is meant to be beside unnecesary makeup on the faces.
As a hobby in the last months i decide to add to my CK2 HIP mods some historical accurate minor cultures lacking both in the base game and in the mod.For example, as you can see in the pic, i added the Muladi/Mullawadi (native iberian muslim converters) culture distinti from the Andalusian One.Which other minor/obscure historical culture can i add? For the moment i included:>Pontic, Cappadocian, Tsakonian and Griko culture to split the greek blob>Galindians>Gallo culture in France>Melingoi (Peloponnesian slavs)>Syriacs (western assyrians) and Melkites (syriacs/greeks mix)>Azeri (late middle ages melting pot turkish culture)>Scots (lade middle ages melting pot english culture)>German prussians (late middle ages melting point for both low german or norse cultures in Prussia
>>2368484What does requirement say?
>>2368665Isn't Andalusian already meant to represent Iberian Muslim converts?
>>2368683In the Andalusia society there was a clear ethnic split between the paternal Arab/berber descendants, and the paternal descendants of local iberian converts, plus the influent saqialibah (descendants of slavic slaves)
>>2368665Is this how people feel when I talk about difference in malachite and chalcopyrite and they just go bro, it's all fucking copper?
>playing in ainu lands>think I am safe from the mongols>suddenly see them swarming my one remaining neighbor realm, shit myself and then instantly do the decision to submit to him>later try to have a look at schemes against him and notice an assassination is listed as very easy>remember that he made me his spymaster when I submited to himMan this is tempting, historically his empire fell apart the moment he died right? will the same thing happen here?also i'm a little confused, where does the game actually list my position, it's not even in my characters memories
>>2368802Hm maybe I won't kill gengis, he's giving me a foothold on the mainland, I could just have stability for a bit and be given stuff
>>2368803AND he gave me most of the rest of my landmass too, except for one little corner he's holding directly, capitulation can be a wise thing
>>2368804and then he gave me that corner
>>2368802Oh, I was gonna kill him when I was looking like I was about to die but he died first
There is no fucking projects tab, I see the actual button for taking part at the top of my screen but what a mess of a tutorial
>>2368805Based Genghis Chad, rewarding men of good merit
>>2368665Well, if you really want to, you could:>add Yavatingian>split West Slavs more, with Moravians and local tribe-sized cultures in Poland, maybe with mid-late game melting pot>Add GasconsShould there be non-Coptic local Greeks in Egypt? I don't really know.I feel like you would like NEOW, as there's a lot of local and minority cultures in that mod. Although, for fairly obvious reasons, it is not a historical mod.
>Varangian Veterans have been limited to a max of 1 stack, similar to how House Guards workOh no no no.
>>2368943OK? Let's pretend other fifty gorillion flavors of broken maas don't exist.
Great news! They added the canonically gay pedophile character who gets lectured by negroes into the game in the new version!You can find this traveling around the land stick his cock up the arse of every little boy's encrusted shit hole!
>>2368968calm down
I wish ck3 had something like bloodline hunting, I miss my genetic engineering
>>2368968This is what development time is used up for... lol.At least you have a character you can look forward towards killing every single time you start up the game. Normally, for me, it would be the first jewish character I find, but now, this one might be a contender for that instead.
>still have to rely on debug/modding/dna importation to be able to select body/breast type in ruler designerparadox pls
Look at the amount of faggots on the dev team, and that's not even counting the homosexuals.For if you were wondering why the game is so shit.
>Reform Carthage as part of the main gameLiterally why? Did the Arabs/Berbers who settled / colonised the area LARP as Carthage? I know some Modern Tunisians do, but I wasn't aware of the historical connection.
>>2369277>Did the Arabs/Berbers who settled / colonised the area LARP as Carthage?Literally no one did afaik
>>2369238I think it's easier on PR to make them bisexual unless there's strong evidence one way or the other, assuming those are goofy additions like the Kingdom Come guy if I'm understanding >>2368968 correctly (hadn't played it)>>2369277someone prolly shat it out during spare time and they decided to cram it inmeanwhile roman empire can get royally assfucked because reasons
>>2369295No, those are the dev easter egg characters.
>>2369298in that case>>2369238>open debug>set all their sexualities to asexual>set all their ages to 0, then remove all their traitsSave at least at this point to avoid possible fuckup burnout.>set them all up with guardians and try to raise the best dev team you can>land them all so they can take less vacations
Never played CK. Whats the best vanilla option? What and for which game are there the best degenaracy mods (violance and sex)?>inb4 read the threadNo.
>>2369421CK3 is the most beginner friendly and is more streamlined then CK2 but is missing some of the features of CK2(like republics) but those will likely be added. In alot of ways it's like SimsCK2 has the most mod variety at the moment especially since it's completed development which means you don't have to wait months to a mod to update after the main game updates. The only downside is all the characters in CK2 look like potatoes so unless you using portrait mods you get to deal with that. CK2 has the most degen stuff with CK3 slowly catching up. With how the games are set up CK2 you really need to use your imagination for things since most stuff is just an icon with a static portrait. CK3 the characters are more expressive and detailed which makes them feel more real. Downside to that is you need a decent to good PC to run CK3.
>>2369434>enabling that dipshit
>>2369434Cool. Thanks, friend.
>>2369421CK2, just pirate all of the dlc and get yourself a portrait mod like Better Looking Garbs for portrait enhancement. CK3 was made to be easy at the foundational level with its useless levies/space marine-like man-at-arms/supermen knights, easy alliances with strong powers, incompetent AI that doesn't know how to handle basic game mechanics like MAA stationing, linear lifestyle skill trees that make education tier meaningless, global gavelkind that breaks immersion and cripples the AI who do not often retake land from their brothers like the player does, etc. CK3 is just irredeemable at this point. All the coping in 2020 from the fanboys was for nothing. >>2369434>expressiveThey make a few retarded poses and faces and that's that. Inferior to the simple but tasteful art of CK2.
>>2345712the writing and ui will never be fixed.
>>2364097Any chance of bringing back the skin color change when the women become immortal?
