What's different from the demo?From the steam page:>Six unique factions: Temple, Dungeon, Schism, Grove, Necropolis, and Hive>An in-game tutorial>The first act of the campaign. More acts will be added with the full release of the game>Premade scenarios with self-contained stories, with even more coming during Early Access>Classic, Single Hero, and Arena modes, available in both single-player and multiplayer>Matchmaking, ranked play, and leaderboards for all three modes in multiplayer>A wide variety of Random Map Generator templates for unlimited replayability>Hotseat mode, allowing you to play against friends and family one after another on a single PC>A series of puzzle-style challenges>A pre-release version of map editor to create your own adventures
DEATH TO ANYONE WHO BUYS EARLY ACCESS ANYTHING
Hive is pretty fun to play
>>2389871Reddit spacing is so ugly
>>2389888Trips skeaps truth
Game seems way more harder than the demo. Hive are fighting for their life just to take Wood/Stone on Apoc
anyone doing a playthrough on jewtube?
>cool dragonNice.>cool dragon with husky female voiceSEEEEEEEXOOOOOOOOO
should I buy this (yes even now in Early Access) or just buy Songs of Conquest?
>>2390429the dragon dosent talk wat u on about
>>2390437Queen Amelchia
>>2390431>woke ugly bootleg hommvs>original IP made by actual fans of the original
>>2390440>Queen Amelchiaoki
>>2390429they know
>>2390431SoC is ugly as sin and also doesn't really play like a HoMM game. OE is great, but if you want something else then better go buy AoW3, Planetfall or Endless Legend. Any of these are better than the fucking SoC.>>2390444>OE>The only nigger is a sexy mulatto serving the faction of fanatical religious white men>wokeU ok, brainrotten amerishit?
>>2390541>sexy mulattoYour dishonestly is fucking blazing.
>>2390431SoC is pretty good, but I've only played through the main campaigns so far.I feel like maybe the enemies run out of steam too fast, but that's hardly a unique complaint coming from homm2 and homm3.I bought the main game last year at discount, then recently 2 DLCs.
>>2390546Problems?
>>2390562Yeah. You being a dishonest faggot.
>>2390541>AI slop animationPaused at 1s hoping to see some nopan upskirt. Instead, I get that Scary Movie 3 messed up face Black guy.
>>2390151Yeah i mean, I'm not that great at HoMM but this game is fucking kicking my ass even on Normal
>>2390573Not dishonest in the slightest, would colonise/10.
>>2390578Git gud.
What are the map templates to go with if I just want a comfy adventure and/or to continue learing the game?
>>2390687There seems to be hardly any worthy ones, everything is either:Geared to singleplayer (asymmetric player VS AI)Bullshit victory conditionSingle hero modeHuge maps where you're farming for hours without even meeting the AI, when you meet them you realize they have 5x your troop countHow the fuck can they release this I don't know, I just wanted to fire up Brave New World or Elbow Room or something similar map.. apparently everything is randomly generated soulless slop, the few handmade maps are ridden with uninteresting story conditions and aren't true FFAs.
>>2390690Dang, is it truly that bad?
>Boot up game>2,000 FPS in menus>Fans sound like jet engines
>>2390702No, he's a retard. There's like 25 templates for all kinds of scenarios and a number of hand-crafted maps.
>>2390716Use Fan Control, Luke.
>>2390723I bought it anyway. Trying the tutorial now. Seems fun, but I wanna see how the other factions play.
>>2390716njudea control panel, 3d settings, limit framerate to 120 or 144. Saves a lot of hassle with poorly coded vidya
Ran into my first bug/glitch/whatever, town towers when you have the options of who to attack, list the raw damage calculation values instead of the final number.
Goddamn I've played 3 different maps and the AI outpaces me every time. How do I get good? Just when I feel like I can get a bit more aggressive the AI is rolling in with a better army every time.
>>2391235Same. I wonder if this is a HOMMV situation of "the devs were people raised on playing 3 at a professional level", except unlike 5 they could actually code enemy AI worth a damn so the enemy would actually take advantage of strategy.
>>2391235>>2391237It's because the AI has effectively infinite resources. They don't get more troops per turn than you but when you never have to be strategic in thinking "do I buy more troops this turn or upgrade this building" and can just pick both every time, it lets them snowball.
>He plays Olden Era.
>>2391264Is the implication that playing OE makes old hags mad?
>>2391421What the hell am I looking at.Did she hang a bone around her neck so at least dogs wouldn't run away from her?
>>2391235>How do I get good?Hard to say without some details. What map, faction and difficuly level did you choose?
>>2391433Did Septienna put a ball of wool over her head so that her skeletons don't mistake her bald old hag skull for one of their own?
>>2391449It was an RNG template map, one of the larger ones. I'm trying to paly hive, but it feels like the AI vastly outscales me in terms of growth. Like the enemy stack that chased me down basically had twice the amount of units I did, and I don't think I was losing a lot to neutrals. And hard difficulty.Mostly I just wanna learn how to not suck as hive I guess.
>>2391457>It was an RNG template mapEvery sing map is. What a soulless shitpile of game
No way this shit slide show of a game is worth 30 euros
>>2391473>slide show of a gameHow fucking poor even are you?
>>2391457On random maps you should pretty much always buy at least 2 extra heroes early on to explore the area around you faster and pick up nearby resources. If you don't see a lot of gold on the map you need to invest in your main structure and get a bank to get an income going. Once you've either looted enough gold from the map or raised your income to an acceptable level you can build creature dwellings to raise an army. Generally all factions have about 2 or 3 units you want to get asap (usually ranged and fast units because they clear the map easily). Don't forget to build up fortifications, despite their name their main purpose is to boost your town's creature growth.For hive, imo, you most important unit is the locust (in particular the upgraded version with parry) so try not to lose them and always get more of them. Parasites are really slow so don't bother with them unless you're really rich or you know you're about to fight an enemy player. Wasps are nice because they're fast but they can't really carry the fight for you on their own so don't hesitate to split them into 1 stacks and block enemy shooters or waste enemy retaliations, they're more like a support unit for locusts. That should cover the basics I think.
>>2391520It's better to use locusts as the 1stack because their double attack farms focus faster. It's also important to get the hive law that gives you a free focus charge at the beginning of combat, so you can use eggs immediately.
>>2389871>nostalgia bait raping old IP>early access>studio has marketing team consisting of 5 people>balance-nigger behaviorPardon the cynical concerns, but did Unfrozen employee make this thread?
>>2391477>vibe-coders at the helmfugg :DD
>>2391531>nostalgia bait raping old IP>>2391535Coders are not responsible for your malware-ridden potato.
>>2391550>saying things that are true is badI can't stop you from coping, but...
>>2391556The only true thing concerning you so far is that you're projecting, since the game is ranked very positive with 53k+ peak players and 250k copies sold on the first day. Your impotent squeals only make my penis harder.
>>2391566>satanic dubs>some shitty attempt at fallacyAnon, I already know that the things that I said are true, you don't have to reinforce them 10x over.
>>2391535If you're talking about the ram, I feel like people who say "it needs 8gb of ram!" are either retards or baiting. No, it doesn't need 8gb of ram, fucking Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't need 8gb of ram. But you know what DOES need that much? Windows which happens to also be open while you're running the game, and you can't just choose between playing the game or having your OS open at the same time.
>>2391578>not using linux in the year 2026 of our lordbakayou can do better
>>2391581Which is utterly irrelevant to people using "it needs 8gb of ram" as an argument because they're just factually wrong.
>>2391450>what is an escoffion
>>2391571Nobody is trying to convince your sorry loser ass, I'm shitting directly down your throat for being a coping projecting crybaby bitch.>>2391593>What is a pendant?Hmm...
>>2391520>Once you've either looted enough gold from the map or raised your income to an acceptable levelShould have already broken out of your starting area and snowballed by then
>>2391608>Nobody is trying to convince your sorry loser ass>gives 67 (You)'sAT BEST, you are beta-testing the game for free, but I bet you actually paid for it. Do you lube your ass before bending over for slav nerds who makes this? Of course you do, faggot, it's silly to even ask.
>>2391628Oh, so you're just butthurt that this will be the third time Russians have saved the HoMM franchise and they have become exceedingly efficient at it. Seethe, cope and dial 8.
>>2390444What makes SoC woke?
>>2391641>russians saving anythinglol, lmao even
>>2391676Cope and seethe. Dial 8, even.
>>2391646there is like a black woman knight and a frog
>Post two low effort shitposts.>Some anon starts shitposting back,>Go to sleep.>Another anon takes my place like some shitposting doppelganger.>Wake up to small flamewar that ook place without me.Man, this is weird. We peaked with classic forums format.
>>2391746As far as woke goes, that's pretty tame these days
>>2391613That depends on the map. He's not playing 1v1 pvp on jebus so he doesn't need to learn how to break at 114. If he's getting rolled over by the AI at hard difficulty then he just needs to learn how to build up something resembling an economy and not lose his whole army fighting neutrals.
>>2391646knights make female noisesmedieval europe-like factions with a bunch of african leaders
>>2389888Fair. It looks good and I hope to play it with my homm-playing buddy but I'm not touching anything early access out of principle
>>2389871I don't like the HoMMV-esque WoWslop cartoonish artstyle.That is all.
Did Paul Anthony Romery (pbuh) lose his touch? The music in this is incredibly bland.
>>2392008He had to work with subhuman russians. It would drain the soul of anyone.
I wasn't going to buy the game but a friend gifted it to me so in a way I feel good about not personally paying zigger Ivans but at the same time, someone else did on my behalf, essentially. It's a rollercoaster of emotions.Still, the game isn't terrible even if the devs should get DRONE'd
Holy FUCK, I hate streamers. This really spiked my cortisol.I wanted to watch MeKick playing the new HoMM, since he is a HoMM3 veteran and a really good player and his chat once sperged out at me, because I dared to ask him a non-gameplay related question. But out of the all the streams, he decided to completely ruin the viewer experience for his first impression with HoMM:OE. Just a constant stunlock after stunlock by every single new chat massage. Literally torture to watch. No wonder he is a streamer with barely any viewers.
>>2392112MeKick is a bit of an asshole desu. He's sperged out before about "backseat gaming" and other bullshit
>>2391746Like an actual frog or just a frenchman?
>>2392158a whole faction of actual frogs actuallyThe Marsh providesThe Marsh expands.
>>2392112>>2392114odd, never experienced any issues like that with mekick and his chat
>>2392114>>2392236Me neither. Like I said in my post, my problem with him is that he's "too nice" and feels obligated to reply to literally every single chat message, even if an answer isn't even necessary or wanted.
>>2392082>>2392063get to the front already draft-dodging piggies
>>2392063Such an anxious pigdog, why are you dodging the draft?
>>2390541what's deficient in SoC gameplay wise?
>>2392158Actual frogs. Also a big turtle shaman (my favorite unit in the game) and Dragons. Sadly the other factions are nowhere near as interesting to me personally.>>2392460Stacks are capped and limited (you can spend levelup to raise how many stacks you can get and resources to upgrade how many units fit into a stack) , Magic feels way stronger than Might due to how mana works, unit losses feel extremely fatal, it's basically impossible to get a city that can make every unit + both research buildings. It feels very "you have to have a specific build in mind or perish" which can be quite annoying.
>>2392469>Actual frogs. Also a big turtle shaman (my favorite unit in the game) and Dragons. Sadly the other factions are nowhere near as interesting to me personally.I think I preferred the human and sand human factions.pikemen+musketeer and footmen+rangers felt good to spam and were versatile enough. With the frogs I liked the drummer and the frog cavalry, which had the ultimate ability in homm games: the homm3 wait command
Ok I figured out why I was sucking as I said here >>2390583, it's because I picked the incorrect option without knowing it.After mission 1 which is a no-build mission, the game gives 2 mission 2 options. One is to go west and communicate with the Rampant, and the other is to go east and pick a side between the Necropolis and Castle factions (I know none of these are their in-game names but it's how I remember the towns). The east option is just a straight up trap, the AI is way overtuned for it to be your first option and you're meant to do the story stuff to the west in order to get some levels and spells and artifacts for your hero, THEN go east when the enemy won't just assrape you by week 3.
>>2392664Oh and also, much more importantly, going west gets you another hero on mission 2 which means you aren't doing everything with just Gunnar.
It's a mediocre take on classic, nothing more. The 90% steam reviews are coming in from Slavs sucking off each other.Graphics and art style are a major letdown, it looks like 20 years after HoMM 5, 3D is still too much of a challenge. But not just that. The 2D art feels especially cheap and AI-like, despite their claims to the contrary. The loading screen is a laughable flat image, town screens also lose depth and details as they feel out of size and scope.Adventure map is mostly okay, but some terrain and colors are worse than others. At least this can be tuned in the menus.UI is horrible, there is no status bar, no tooltips, no right clicks. As if someone hasn't played the old games for reference. Creature icons are tiny, and impossible to tell what is what. Tiers and upgrades aren't quickly shown, and most upgrades are just recolors which is really annoying, you cannot tell which upgrade you need if you picked up creatures from the outside.Combat is barely passable, units do get animations and some weight behind their hits (but not quite the same level as a Crusader or Champion going down in HoMM3, or a Pit Lord marching and whipping ass). Again, the downside is the units are tiny, one hex sized, and way to cartoony to have any personality on the battlefield.>>2392008>>2392063More likely he got paid pennies by Ubisoft (again), and he was asked to compose the same themes for the 10th time (again). He might be a top tier composer but we can't expect him to score top tier OST every time he's asked. His name is only there to drive the sales at this point.Lack of content in terms of playable maps is especially playful, unless you only want to play the same soulless RMG Jebus Cross.>>2390723Pidor doesn't know the difference between template and maps and scenarios. There's like 5 scenarios (which are story driven and asymmetric), and 25 templates, out of which half are also designed to be you vs AI. There are zero hand-crafted maps for FFA in the game.
>Look inside>Human faction>Elf faction>Obligatory undead faction>Elf faction>Zerg faction>Elf faction
>>2392787(cont)Which means it is currently impossible to boot up HoMM:OE and play an FFA of your choice with 8 players, if I'm not wrong 4 is the limit. The random map generator spews out exactly the same shit it did 25 years ago with a ton of monoliths overlapping each other, except there is no water and underground.The game is barely functioning unless you're an autistic slav going for 1v1 balanced multiplayers and just want to have fun.The good: global spells are a good idea. There are a lot of new skills and spells available to give some depth. Focus points are a good addition.Overall it's a 5/10, a shallow (and ugly as shit) attempt again to copy a fucking 27 yo video game. Much of the art could have come from the Chinese mobile (Ubi approved) knock offs. What a joke. Just play HotA.
>barely any scenarios>maps have no water or underground>AI is dogshit and relies entirely on cheating>campaign is barely there and wriiten by a 3rd grader>put some e-thot as a hero into the game>units are ugly as shit qnd have nonsense of scale>no FFA or team modes>map editor is so bad it's borderline unusable>hero portraits are AI slopEven HoMM 6 and 7 blow this garbage game out of the water.
>>2392810Saar...
>>2392664clearly east is the speedrunner choice
>>2392799dungeon is more an animal farm factiontreefuckers dont even have actual elf units, though dryad looks kinda elfish but isnt, the shroomguy might be an elfthe cthulhu faction has actually the most elves, but they're all mutated with tentacles n shit
>>2392823looking at him he's not really an elf or is also a mutated one, so treefuckers have 0 or half an elf unit
Have they changed the Haven faction skill? It was pretty bad in the demo.
>>2392830They did. It gives different buffs and also activates when you kill a stack.
>>2392810Hey now, let's not say things we can't take back.
>>2392805>Just play HotA.I don't want to. It's bad.
>>2392787>>2392805Non-slav subhuman opinions don't matter.
>>2392799Count every elf unit in the game, cocksucking liar.
>>2392787>>2392805didn't read, format your posts better
Someone should decompile Heroes of Might and Magic: Olden Era and see if the lower levels of AI cheats or not, and then publish the results everywhere.The usage of IL2CPP makes this harder. Maybe the developers used IL2CPP specifically to make it harder to verify that the AI cheats, even at lower levels. But tools like Ghidra and Il2CppDumper might still work.Disclaimer: I haven't even downloaded the game at all, LOL
>>2392063>>2392926The fake-feeling positive reviews don't seem to be coming from Russians. Probably the case that they are standard fake reviews from Steam for companies that are allowed to buy fake reviews.And some negative reviews are written in Russian.The writing and lore of the game, if I had to guess, doesn't seem Russian at all. Apart from the ethnicity of "rootless cosmopolitans". Maybe game developers should have been conscripted first.
>>2393012
>Game goes out of its way to appeal to the esports pvp crowd>People like MeKick play it for two (2) (ni) days, then abandon it to go straight back to homm3>Meanwhile campaign isn't finished and balance is somehow fucked for an esports pvp gameYeah I think im just going to play 7.5, unironically the peak modern homm experience unless you are an eternal 3 fag
>>2393016Why are you squealing, cocksucking faggot?
>>2389871https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnOXo8Kc2DY
Is movement speed for heroes still determined by the units in your army? I remember in homm3 it was detrimental to have zombies in your armor as necros.
>>2393019Retard he already said openly before even starting the game on stream that he would play it this weekend then straight back to 3
>>2393036Yes and some towns have units which affect that too. The third tier unit for Schism removes the terrain penalty for your hero for example.
>>2393038Damn, I never really liked that mechanic but I guess fans do. I'll have to see which units in my army are slow fucks.
>>2393037Once streamer who only ever plays one game will go back to playing that one game after trying another one? Woah, breaking news.What happened to "MeKick play it for two (2) (ni) days, then abandon it"? Looks like he played it for longer than "two (2) (ni) days" and didn't "abandon" it, but never planned to play it beyond trying it out in the first place.You absolute cocksucking faggot bitch, LMAO.
>>2393036No, not like in HoMM3. Slowest units do not slow you down and having even one unit that's native to the terrain removes the penalty on that terrain.
>>2393049Oh okay, so I can recruit units without worrying about speed penalties? Good shit
>>2393050Yeah, I bet basically everybody is tired of having to drop all but one fastest unit somewhere at the end of each single day.Speed is also split from initiative, so some slow units can still move earlier.
>>2393012>The writing and lore of the game doesn't seem Russian at all.It actually is very russian. Close to King's Bounty and Space Rangers. Lots of cheeky jokes, memes and references. Russians always loved fantasy comedy.
Bah!
>>2393064Vampires don't say 'bah!'!
>>2393087It's a regional Jadamean dialect.
>angels are no longer angels but animated suits of armorsLame
>>2393135What the fuck are you talking about?
>>2393135There are actual real angels in the game
so if AI cheats, what's the best way to enjoy this game? multiplayer? everyone is already so good coming from older homm games.
>>2393142Read their description
>>2392810>>2392805>>2392787I was expecting hommoe to be more in line with homm5, competent but less interesting than homm3, but sounds more like it's a homm6+homm7
>>2393135wasn't this always the case? didn't this change only in homm5?
>>2393135>>2393218
>>2393221not sure what this image is meant to convey, they definitely were robots in the original MM series and in homm3
>>2389888fpbp
>>2393142>>2393221
>Kerrigan/Sylvanas-like archetype in the trailer>doesn't even get transformed into a hot bitch, but just a stupid spider-centaur>Minotaur has very big, soft eyes - more like a furry, not a monster>Black Dragon Queen has an unfitting voice actress and directly rules over her subjects - which implies no sense of mystery, subtlety (Dragon doesn't use a Queen/Priestess or regent for day-to-day rule, while living in her cave, she actually is like a president or CEO, who is present in the operation)>complete freakshit, dragons, dark elves, minotaurs and Human peasants all just work together in harmony or something, minotaurs aren't slave warriors, peasants aren't oppressed and even has a happy little pig>very little actual Humor, despite the atmosphere and visuals of the setting, every joke is played very safe>Millennial Nostalgia bait references everywhereThis is such a soulless Corporate slop product, HOLY SHIT
>>2393267Why did you leave out the part about your opinions coming from a streamer?
>>2393267>NOOOOOO WHERE ARE MY HECKING TROPES
>>2393294>just homogenize the setting bro make it safe and friendly and as bland as possible bro just sand down the edges bro make it entirely fucking indistinct from any other fantasyslop these days broheaven forbid a fantasy setting has some grit to it. people like you would have a fucking anuerysm at stuff like Dark Sun
>>2393267Thanks for prefacing your shit opinions with the shit opinion picture
>>2393297Everyone has grimderp fatigue for good reason
>>23932871. My opinion does not come from a streamer.2. I already mentioned that streamer in a post in this thread.>>2393294>>2393320mad
>>2393297The notoriously grimdark setting of the M&M series where you fight vampires who make the 'Blah!' sound when they attack.
>>2393297>gritare you like 20 or something lol
>>2393407They aren't sending their best.
>>2393198It is very near to 3 and 5 gameplay wise, but more like a barebones and cheap knock-off attempt than an improvement. The innovations they put in aren't the problem. It's the production value.
>>2393432ahh okayI'll give it a shot at some point, but in no rush
>game has potential>artstyle turned out better than expected>devs are active>piggies and nafoids seethingWhat's not to like.What's your favorite faction so far? What's broken?It seems they overnerfed necromancy. It doesn't do much any more.
>>2393522>>artstyle turned out better than expectedkek. the artstyle is shit you eyeless moron.
>>2393522>artstyle turned out better than expectedI would sooner believe in the US biolabs in Ukraine
Russian sweatshop ubislop
>>2393522Dungeon, it just werks. Art is nice, I agree. Campaign was fun, I'll do the second branch too.
>>2393522I like hive. They seem one of the more aggressive factions.I want to like Necro but something doesn't feel right.
>>2393564>I want to like Necro but something doesn't feel right.thought it was neat that the vampire was the top tier creature, but haven't played it
>>2393064Vampires say something more like "bleh".
>>2393522Schizos are the most fun to play for me so far
russoids always talk about snowflakes then shit themselves and call jannies over bants, this is the HOMO Oral Era fanbase
People who defend the artstyle belong in the skeleton transformer.Town screens are alright and that's it....Really makes me think about H3 design philosophy.Generic archetypes, but somehow in a good way.With a twist here and there.
Fuck, he found this thread.You shouldn't have mentioned /vst/ in /v/ thread, anon.
>>2393522I've always been a dungeon fag and that's not going to change.However>artstyle turned out better than expectedBy what fucking metric? It's pretty much as bad as expected to me.>>2393135>>2393221The "angels" have always been robots designed by le ancient civilization meme primarily to kill illegal aliens (aka "demons"). Though arguably this is deep lore since I don't think this was ever explained in the games themselves.
>>2393267>Millennial Nostalgia bait references everywhereOf all criticisms, this is something I have never understood whenever people bring it up in anything as long as the nostalgia pandering isn't being done cynically. I don't know how else to say this: the only reason this game exists is because of nostalgia pandering. No one born in the last 20 years who wasn't a slav raised on their older brother's games gives a fuck about HoMM, to everyone but us this is that series only oldfags care about and refuse to let go of. Yes. I want to be pandered to, I want to be told I'm the special little guy and the world hasn't forgotten about the things I like.Let me ask you this, why is Gunnar of all characters from HoMM3 the pov character of this game? They didn't just pick him out of a hat, it's because he's a story character in HotA, a fan expansion no one but 3 giga autists give a shit about. That is pandering, full stop. But I like being pandered to.
>>2393648>or chinesetbf the number of games that come out of china that are translated into english and AREN'T some p2w shit, you can count on one hand and so there is a bit of a stigma to it. In terms of quality there's Wukong, and that's about it.
>>2393651My problem is it looks too clean. I am one of those people who like 5's artstyle more than 3's because WC3 is my favorite RTS game of all time so I have massive nostalgia for early 2000s cartoony pc 3D, and I would have preferred if this game cleaned up the models less and made them more blocky. But if they did that people would just shit on it for entirely different reasons even though I would be its sole defender even if no one else was.
>>2393651I'm sorry but anyone who talks about the soul or care put into HoMM3's sprites (Which is true) but also posts AI sloppa deserves to be ground feet first into a fine paste.
>>2389871Now that the dust settled, is this better or worse than 5.5?Obviously no one likes this mobile game more than Heroes 3, even without HotA.
>>2393716Slop is the future.BG3 broke me.BG3 showed me the way.No computer would write main plot so stupid.Machines are the future.
>>2393721Can I get a QRD on why you broccoli hair kids do this performative seething at BG3? It's not a good story but it's much better than (what you would consider) "oldies" like every BioWare game, including BG, BG2 & DA:O (aka "goated old ass classics that [you] watched an LP of on Twitch") and most "classic banger" JRPGs.
>>2393707>I am one of those people who like 5's artstyle more than 3's because WC3 is my favorite RTS game of all time so I have massive nostalgia for early 2000s cartoony pc 3D,I don't think homm3 looks that great, but it's serviceable and nothing looks too retarded, it's just solid throughout.Artstyle in homm 5 is fine I guess, but some character designs are off to me. What mostly puts me off homm5 is the faction compositions though.
>>2393333yea, everyone who is a obnoxious subversive
>>2393723> broccoli hair kids Lmao, I wish. Eh, to be young...>and most "classic banger" JRPGs.Weeb stories are a separate category of exotic nonsense.I'm not going to argue here.>It's not a good story but it's much better than (what you would consider) "oldies" like every BioWare game, including BG, BG2 & DA:OWell...Very visible late rewrites.Very marvelino superhero tone.BG3 is somewhat similar with BG1 in it's random unfunny humor, but even BG1 never included an erotic book about a beloved lore character shoving an iconic weapon up his anus... And BG3 had that.In general this juvenile "the more awesome we put in the better the story gets" approach. Do we need TWO legendary characters in out pocket? One was not enough?What squid Balduran adds to the story? Serious question. Did it make the game more Baldur's Gate?I like how in the ending cimematic the Flaming Fist bloke looks at the statue of Balduran - the symbol of the surviving city. Who just tried to manipulate me into sucking his mantacle.Very inspiring ending, thank you Larian.
>>2393707W3 and WoW style...It was smart visual design for multiple reason and I respect it for that.Also, it had horrible consequences for fantasy and gaming art in general.
>>2393172>Muh loreAccording to "muh lore" they never were real angels to begin with, but androids created by the Ancients. this faction are fanatical zealots, so at some point the angels that you think of from HoMM3 left them and became neutral, forcing them to come up with a substitute. The only meaningful difference between these two is that only one of them was created by the Ancients, otherwise they then both fit your description of "animated suits of armors".
>>2393547Time to go back.
>>2393761>Lmao, I wish. Eh, to be young...Stopped reading there>I wishI'm only 37 and I never wished to be a kid again, instant tell this is a larping broccoli >to be youngSame as above, like a jeet telling AI to pretend it's and """old guy""">Lmao,The killshot. This was something the jeet forced in after his AI post was generatedDidn't read the rest, AI slop generated by a broccoli hair
>>2393721You are certainly broken. Just in an annoying faggot way.
>>2393782What even is this post...
>>2393782t. the raped
>>2393763>It was smart visual design for multiple reasonYeah, it ages better. The more you try to look like something real, the more its age will show when technology leaps. But cartoons always look like cartoons. It's why KH1 looks so much better today than FFX, 2 games released within a year of each other by the same company, because the disney look is timeless in a way cutting-edge "real people" isn't.It's also part of why Reforged looks so bad, aside from all the other obvious issues.
My only gripe with the game:The templates are fucking garbage, obviously designed by pvp addicts
>>2393757Ok edgelord
I feel like hive egg tech is underrated. Once you have the law that gives a focus charge at the start of combat and the subskill that makes the eggs take two hits to break, you can clear many neutral stacks with eggs alone.
>2393791>2393794>zoomiejeet got no comeback, AI saar cannot redeem my postSUFFAH BROCCOLI
Who is this autists and is he the same guy who shits on Forge in all possible heroes threads.
>>2393881>is he the same guy who shits on Forge in all possible heroes threads.Naeh that's me and a few other guys.
>all them anons that can't read>>2393658Animations are smoother. Details are there. It's not completely mobileshit. It's more like effort mobileshit. It looks better in motion than on the screenshots, 5/10.HoMM2 was peak artstyle for me but I'm never getting that and a decent homm game with 5/10 artsyle is better than no homm game.
>>2393819Are your religious beliefs stopping you from adding other templates to the game, or what?
>>2393913>Animations are smoother. Details are there. It's not completely mobileshit. It's more like effort mobileshit. It looks better in motion than on the screenshots, 5/10.Played last night and was definitely surprised how much the animations elevated the art. When you see things moving on the world map it doesnt look too bad. The interface definitely looks like its made for mobile though, big round buttons and easy to tap iconsWith that said, if the game actually came to mobile I wouldnt complain
>>2393968>The interface definitely looks like its made for mobile though, big round buttons and easy to tap iconsRight.
>>2393979
>>2393658>By what fucking metric?It's pretty much as bad as expected to me.Unfortunately that is the skill issue of you having "shit taste."
what are your favourite templates?
all units look the same lol
Damn you weren't kidding, Hive does suck. At least early on. Maybe I should have taked the hero with the T5 unit specialization, they seem to be doing most of the work anyway. Getting a free second move after killing a stack is insane.
>>2394070Eggs!
>>2394073Yeah, I don't know, I don't really see them being all that good. I feel like they are more useful as bait than actual units, since the AI seem to always prefer to target the eggs over normal units. But I haven't finished my first and only map as them yet, so maybe I'll change my mind.
>>2394075You can easily split the opponents stacks with them. They also become offensively viable once you get the subskill that makes them break after two hits. Also, use locusts as your 1-stack over parasites.
guys gib Grove build order pls
>>2394070Have you tried taking their tactics specialist? With expert tactics your locusts get infinite parries which lets them mow down neutrals with 0 losses.
>>2394107>With expert tactics your locusts get infinite parries which lets them mow down neutrals with 0 losses.only if you one shot the stack with the counter, so I don't think it works very well in the early game anyway, does it?But funnily enough, I got an artifact set that gives me unlimited counters anyway, and that;s exactly the strategy I'm using right now. It's great.
>>2394115If the enemy stack is too big to 1 shot you can just take the retaliation with a 1 stack, I used wasps for that and it seemed to work well enough.
What bonus do you take with the main money building? I'm usually just going with the law points bonuses, but I wonder if getting town portal and other mobility spells quicker might be the better choice.
Why is Lekxiav (pronounced as Lekku-chaff), our favorite content creator for Heroes 3, creating content for Heroes OE instead of dying on the Ukrainian front for the Jew?
>>2394142Isn't Lexiav trans? Only men have to go into the meat grinder.
Was thinking about picking this one up.How is it now after the devs patched absurd AI difficulty I heard people complain about? And how is the PVP scene in your experience?No contrarian schizos or culture war fags pls, just honest takes from anons that actually played the game
>>2394167>How is it now after the devs patched absurd AI difficultyIt never seemed like an issue to me and if you didn't mention it i wouldn't have noticed that the AI got patched.>And how is the PVP scene in your experience?I haven't tried it
>>2394142he's Lithuanian, why would he die on the Ukrainian front for Jewtin?
>>2394088Groves, the worst. Everything is so expensive and you don't get that many units
>>2394167It's too easy now
>>2394224you're retarded, bad at the game and almost certainly homosexual
>>2394070Truly, carrying on Inferno's tradition of being garbage.
>>2393648I want to say people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, BUT, it is true that it seems like these days a game (besides Pathologic) can't come out of Russia without it turning into an artificial culture war issue.
>>2393716>>2393648is that a koolaid ukrainian HOMM mod i can play?
Not gonna n g l, I would expect a lot more hype for a title that just cameout, even if it's in early access. Look at /men/ general. /vst/ wants to talk about /men/ much more.
>>2394370I don't even know what /men/ stands for but it sounds gay
Remember when Ubi ruined HoMM6 by baking in a bunch of online features nobody wanted, never worked when the game was new and now have long been shut down
Side quests are very cute.
How does it hold up to Homm3 and Homm5, those were the only ones I liked
>>2394423It's pretty much if you took Homm3 and added some of the better lessons of 4 and 5.
>>2394444>and took out all the soul and charm of HoMM3ftfy
>>2394448Here. I'm in a good mood. Have your (You) thread schizo. Hope you find something nice today.
>>2394444Could have used a few more lessons. Like the one about caravans.
Shill me your favorite faction and hero
>>2394013Zoomer faggot and his zoomer faggot memes.
>>2394142Because he's a based Russian video game enjoyer. Triggered wectoid nafosisters need not apply.
>After smashing past 250,000 sales in less than 24 hours, it breezed past 500,000 sales over the weekend and currently sits at over 650,000 copies soldhttps://www.gamespress.com/Heroes-of-Might-and-Magic-Olden-Era-early-access-launch-successTurns out games sell well if the french corporate faggots are not trying to supervise your every step or to inject DEI into it.
The biggest issue with this game is I have no interest in playing HOMM in year 1999+27
>>2394483>*proceeds to jerk off to weeb gachashit*Yeah, we know you're a faggot.
>>2394482>Turns out games sell well if the french corporate faggots are not trying to supervise your every step or to inject DEI into it.umm but there are multiple female, black and black & female units
>>2394491See >>2390541
>>2394457Dungeon because it's Dungeon, Devir with Tactics to get Infinite Retaliations and watch as his Minotaur Lord stack shits on everything.
>>2394457Grove with Minstrel or Octavia, surprisingly I love the high focus/high luck gameplay. The faction in general is really enjoyable to play for some reason, I just with they replaced Hoplet with something more useful, weird, mushroom themed and less whimsical.And Dungeon with Enatee, because Medusas are just perfect in this game. Motley and the melee upgrade for Onyx Dancers are really cool too. Last time I had this much fun with ranged units was in H3 with Grand Elves and in H5 with Mages.tfw no watermelon clussy gf
>tower salvo is still bugged and does pitiful damage instead of what's listed in the tooltip>but it also procs the Tactics subskill that gives you mana>but it also procs the Murmuring subskill that gives you +1 to all statsOkay then. I'll take my level 8 hero's stats to 50+ and take the impossible win against a stronger hero who has much more army
damn they really nerfed necromancy since the demo
>>2394666Didn't test it yet, but from what I read about it it should be really nice. You have full control over your necro energy spending and full control over the unit tier that you raise, right? Want to raise dread knights, just activate your skill and go fight any t6 unit.
>>2393717BUMP
>>2393717>>2394715>5.5Unfun trash that tones down and overbalances the based skill wheel.>this mobile game Cope, seethe and dial 8.>more than Heroes 3Let it go.>even without HotASee above about 5.5 — except HotA is even more allergic. You do not see shit skills like Interference or removal of fun heroes like Galthran in OE. Much on the contrary, actually.
I'm just happy to see a modern game with normal appealing female designs for once.
>>2394745>Galthran in OE.Not her, but there are no good level 1 unit specialists like Galthran in OE. Lexiav said so. And the overpowered heroes that do exist are overpowered just because of their personal hero skills and they get banned by the players themselves.
>>2394749Define "good". Onkos is fun because in a matter of 1 day you can get something like 100 skeleton archers with +15% ranged damage.>Lexiav said soWhere exactly?>And the overpowered heroes that do exist are overpowered just because of their personal hero skillsThere's plenty of heroes that start with several higher tier units and an insanely good buff for them. Go watch Lexiav playing Kel'Ghul.>and they get banned by the players themselvesYeah, they MIGHT get banned. In PvP. Where only 3 heroes out of the whole hero pull can be banned. And they are still in the game, unlike in HotA.
AI still fucking cheats on normal with stacks out of the ass shit nigger game
>>2394754I just played a game on hard and absolutely mopped the floor with AI without even trying at all. Git gud, you absolute troglodyte.
Any good content about this game? Been watching Turin's livestreams they're fun.Something like an edited let's play of both sides of a 1v1 match would be neat.
>>2394757why is your average olden era fan like this
why the fuck does jebus classic still have this retarded timer? What is so "classic" about it then
>>2394601where to get high res images of heroes
>>2394748go back to playing sims roastie
how do I hide this shit? It obscures my fucking units
>>2394773>4chuds try not to talk about their cuck fetish challenge (impossible)
>>2394820You are zoomed in
THIS SHIT, CUNT, NIGGER GAME HAS TWO JEBUS TEMPLATES THAT ARE EXACTLY THE SAMEAND BOTH HAVE THAT RETARDED TIMERALL TEMPLATES ARE GODAWFUL
Which Homm game had the best waifus (both heroes and units)
>>2394853V
So after breaking out of your initial biome you cycle out your low number or low tier stacks for pandoras boxes? Mono factionism doesn't matter just try and stack high tier mixed units? Unless if course you're necro
OE has much easier access to town portal so there is more incentive to not race mix, stick to your people and culture and use other towns only as gold mines
>>23948536 and 7 unironicallythey are trash HoMMs but their one positive side is lots of monstergirls
Which faction and heroes would you recommend for a newbie to learn (I wanna play solo hero pvp)
>>2394936I think necropolis is the easy one.
>>2394936Dungeon
>>2394905YOU SAID ITHAHAYOU SAID THE THING
>>2394962please go away and take your retardation with you
What 80/90s Slav or Scandinavian music are you listening to to complete the Homm experience?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsgt4z32aYE&list=RD0JMdXFHo5SY
>>2394936You need to be familiar with at least 3, because 1 gets banned by opponent, 1 gets picked by opponent.Dungeon, Necropolis, Temple imo
>>2394962Hehe six seven like them whippersnappers say
I'm Jewish.
>get 4/5 skills for the epic bonus>fail to get the last one ever>just stuck with subpar skillsevery fucking time
>>2389888It's actively immoral to buy any games at all, besides from single devs who are poorer than you.
Is primal magic just bad? It's supposed to be the raw damage school, and yet even in that category the other schools have equally powerful or even stronger spells.
Is someone on the dev team a furfag?I noticed multiple towns have minotaur heroes (like Hive wtf) and Gunnar is a main hero in the campaign.
>>2395205Are you a baiting troll?I've noticed that you haven't played M&M8 (minotaur and elves wtf) and you are retarded hero of this thread.
You've beaten all the challenges all by yourself, right, anon?To be fair, I think only spells and terrain navigation are tricky.
All the maps are so boring and some are full of teleports, like a badly generated HoMM3 random map. Sad.
Hive goodplayer bad
Damn got raped in second mission siding with temple vs necropolis, the first fight was easy, second fight she brings the rape squad and decimates my army
>>2394482>make something that is like something old that people liked>try to stay faithful but also try to improve upon itThis technology has been lost to the corporate world.
>>2394811https://wiki.hoodedhorse.com/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_Olden_Era/Heroes
>>2394753>Where exactly?In her Temple, Dungeon and Hive heroes/units/etc overview videos, which she released two days ago/yesterday/today respectively. Whenever she commented on the unit 1 specialist, she said they're shit.
>>2394876I want an option to spend X turns racially exterminating the town after you conquered it to turn it into your starting faction. Age of Wonders had this.
>she
>>2395259Had to look up a tip for the last one, didn't occur to me to break the useless arties for dust and upgrade the useful one. Even then, it still took me like 10 tries to get the middle stack of Queens to bunch up to the other stack.
>2395393>sheIs this AI?
What's with all the AI opponents beelining for your main town together a few weeks in? Winning two super difficult fights in a row is nice, but it's ridiculous there's no breathing room between the third. There's no teams yet the AI doesn't even distract each other.
>>2394749Lexiav picks/bans the temple crossbow specialist
>>2395422they don't seem to fight each other
>>2395445They also ignore neutral stacks and buildings to collectively dash to your town at some point
>>2395422What template did you play on? When I played on an 8 player map I was only attacked once
>>2395454It has happened on several ones
>>2395422I had that happen on that one 5 player template where you start in the middle surrounded by 4 others. Makes sense. I don't think it has happened on any of the others though.
>>2395468I don't always spawn in the middle on those types of maps. It's random. But the AI consistently bumrushes you regardless.
>>2395424He also just played Gingertail.
Mission 1 on expert is kicking my ass. i'm terrible at this.
>>2395268Truke
Does Legion's Leg just not work?
They shoould have given this thing an echoy multi voice since it's supposed to be several elements at once in one form, just sounds like a normal dude
>>2395493The voice acting in general seems out of place for the characters desu
>>2395397>>2395418>getting felted this hard by a joke/reference to his feminine appearance & behavior>>2395424>level 1
>>2395483I think it's too hard too. After not being able to get further than the bridge I cleared it on second highest. Did missions 2-5 on Expert and they were much easier.I'll probably try to beat 1 on Expert later.
>>2395495>his feminine appearance & behaviorTake a break from the internet.
>play solo tournament >pick dungeon clown girl>first battle>opponent has decent army with fat ranged stack >cast that night spell that stops ranged unit from shooting>he insta leaves
>>2395697based twilight caster
>>2395697Based and khruschev-pilled.
>>2395697He just wanted to range and chill. Very rude of you to destroy other player's fun like that, you have no honor. Next time you see a heavily ranged army, be respectful and let yourself be pincushioned with arrows, thanks in advance.
>>2395505Ok yeah it was pretty easy on challenging. also the exp limit kind of annoys me
>get raped in campaign>win every mp match so farhuh
How easy is it to mod textures in this? Do you have to unpack files with a 3rd party program or are they just in a folder in the install directory? Anyone know
I'm waiting for mods that turn every unit into an anime girl.
>1 month after release>STILL no crack
>>2395695t. Lexiav's boyfriend
>>2395752>get raped in campaign...how?>>2395760>Too poor to pay 30 bucks>Too retarded to use the internetWhy are wectoid weebfaggots like this?
So, I understand that the multiplayer communitah loves this but how is the single player? I installed 5.5 because of this and got an immediate grim reminder that it doesn't have any good generic skirmish type maps, just cringy "muh cutscenes" scenarios, like single campaign missions.
>>2395293Hive players are amazingly delusional. Talking how their tier 5 and up are good and "losusts are good if you get +1 damage and infinite retaliates" none of that shit matters if you are fighting for your life trying to clear lumber/ore guards.
>>2395828Once people start using locusts as their 1-stack and rushing focus reserves, the opinion on the faction will shift. The early game still isn't ideal, but it is not as unmanageable as people make it out to be.
>>2395809Map generation for singleplayer is meh, you can't really make a proper exploration/adventure feeling map. Progression and power gain is too rapid.Campaign is good and decently lengthy so far. ~35 hours, +5h for a second choice branch. Bunch of side quest in each mission, maps felt varied and well crafted. Characters and story are surprisingly charming. Voice acting is just ok.7 story scenarios, haven't tried them yet, but I Imagine similar quality and amount of hours to finish as the campaign.Challenges are essentially tutorial missions and can be done in less than 1 hour.Overall more than i've expected, looking forward to a finished campaign.
>>2395846>7 story scenarios>only a single M map (which is actually half filled with non-traversable water anyway), and 6 S mapswhat were they thinking? Where are my Ls and XLs?
>put on an artifact that decreases enemy morale>neutral cavalry still gets morale and kills 64 parasites in 1 swing
>>2394370Yeah, the 650k sales feel kinda fake honestly. How can a game have so many concurrent players and sales and yet barely anyone is talking about it. There was some token /v/ threads and now nobody cares
>>2395847>what were they thinking?Actual game development. It's in early access, be thankful that you got a part of the campaign and any hand-crafted maps whatsoever, that's already more than one could expect. Stuff like this is usually done last.The usual features will be added later, and considering the sales and their interaction with the community and the feedback, I see no reason to doubt that they will deliver.
>>2395859650k is huge for a niche game, and nothing for the modern bloated industry as a whole. The games that you hear about all the time sell millions or tens of millions in the first days. This is just a good Heroes game. Also,>"fake sales"is not a thing, lol. You can see faggots trying to fake success by announcing the number of "players" instead of "copies sold" for some shit games like the last AC, Doom, Dragon Age, etc. that released in gamepass-type services. But this is not the case here, thankfully, they just plainly state 650k sold copies.
>>2395859>and yet barely anyone is talking about itAnd yeah, we're busy playing.
>>2395859>it's not English First Language series>it's not a /v/ type game>/v/ threads got spammed by a troll hater weeks in advance and whole week after release>/vst/ is for conformist bitter nerds, only post if they want to complain or perform and mostly talk about the one game they've been playing for 5+ years>people who play it don't go on forchin in general>game is a slowburn, core audience is 30yo+ boomers with seven kids and 3 jobsPretty much all of my friends and most of colleagues talked about it this whole week
Thoughts on the combat skill? The Heroic Strike never seems to get all that powerful, but having a 0 focus cost attack that removes enemy counterattacks, which you can use at any given moment can be very useful. I'm not sure if it's worth a whole skill slot though.
>>2395877HS is absurdly overpowered right now, as I've heard, so it's probably getting nerfed or changed soon enough.
>>2395879Huh? It certainly doesn't feel overpowered to me, not in terms of the damage at least. Unless maybe you get lucky and get a bunch of artifacts that improve it.I haven't taken the mighty strike perk yet, because the effortless strike is just too convenient. I don't really get the description though. +10% based on hero's level? It's not 10% PER level though, so how does the hero level factor in exactly?
>>2395881https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeaAvs3AUeU
>>2395777>...how?I'm new, but get overwhelmed in the mission where you ally with temple vs necropolis. Forst enemy army coming at me was easy, second was a huge power spike that destroyed my army.
>>2395891>effortless strike and confusing strikeso it's just the same perks I takeIt's decent damage, but that's with a high level hero with hero's strike speciality, so it's only faircertainly doesn't seem nerf worthy to me, but I'm not gonna watch the whole thing to make sure
>>2394457Ethric cause he's a lichlord and Necropolis will always be my favorite faction
>>2395909Based and necropolis-pilled.
>>2395859The shizophrenic hater cares enough to spam his cuck fantasies here let alone on /v/ or /vg/. 4chan is generally fucking awful to use these days, /vg/ generals sometimes lose a quarter of their posts when a resident thread shizo finally gets banned.
When it comes to early creep for solo hero PvP either tournament or classic solo hero, what do you prioritize getting first and what would you say makes a risky fight worth it besides pandora's boxes
What would you anons say are the 5 best heroes for each town?
>>2395923Thread id's would fix this. It was hilarious when 4chan broke down and everyone went to eightchan. Many of the schizo's didn't realize thread id's were a thing and kept outing themselves.
>>2395877I was trying it out yesterday and I really like it
Sex with Clarissa
The tournament spam continues
>>23959832nd battle of pvp
>>2395983>>2395998Now's the best time to do MP since everyone is new figuring out the meta. A month later everyone queing will be sweatlording
>>2396001This is precisely why I'm thinking of buying the game even though it's early access. Although it will no doubt get a boost of newbies once it comes out properly.
>>2396001I know you're right, but I just don't care about the multiplayer. I spent all those years playing various HoMM games pretty much always just against the AI. On one hand I bet I'm missing out a bit, but on the other, I just don't feel like sitting down for a single several hour long match with no breaks or even the ability to save and continue later.
>>2396008My 2 cents go for it dude, it's cheap on keysites for under 20EUR if you think the steam price is steep (even tho there is tons of content well worth the price imo)The first 2 months are gonna the heaven for a newbie, won't be the same even on full release
>>2396012>I just don't feel like sitting down for a single several hour long match with no breaks or even the ability to save and continue later.Then try and just play solo tournament mode it's fast
>>2395857Cavalry have Inspiring (?) that gives the army they're in +1/2 morale.
>6th campaign mission>get all three heroes to the level cap (15)>get a new hero after the mission>level 8
Which modes have you played the most so far? (Classic, Solo etc.) And do you mostly play vs AI or MP or both?
>>2396162campaign
Did devs say what will they add in full release besides full campaign and underground layer?
>>2396162Both, mostly single hero tournament. I find that the most fun mode.
>>2396166Water, new factions, allying to your friend and a bunch of other stuff. And i bet most of it is coming before the actual release.
>>2393761>What squid Balduran adds to the story? Serious question. Did it make the game more Baldur's Gate?>I like how in the ending cimematic the Flaming Fist bloke looks at the statue of Balduran - the symbol of the surviving city. Who just tried to manipulate me into sucking his mantacle.
>go into a fight with neutral ranged stack>see which stack enemy ranged targets>quick load to before the fight>carapace the targeted stack>win with 0 lossessomeone save me from my autism
>>2396162I pretty much only play various L map templates against AI. Hard starting resources and AI, unfair neutral monster strength. I don't really want to play the campaign in bits, I'd rather wait until it's all out. And unfortunately the scenarios are mostly just S maps, and I prefer larger ones, so I'm just stuck with random ones for now.
what the fuck kind of hero is this
I choose what hero to play only by how cute their portrait is.
>>2396001>since everyone is new figuring out the metaI can not be arsed to minmax adventure map movement, which is an absolute must for any competitive Heroes play. Less so in OE now that everyone has that perk from H5 Logistics, but still.
>>2396012>a single several hour long matchModern competitive 1 hero template matches with simultaneous turns are like 40-80 minutes long.
>>2396352thats how I started desunow Im branching out
>>2396413I thought you'd post a treant or something
>>2396434that wouldve been too clever for me at the momentalso Motley is best girl
Take the frenpill
>>2396436I believe in dungeon supremacy
>>2396440hear hear
Cute monster girls increase my chances of buying a game by 200 percent
Where are the Lizardmen / Fortress faction? I never played M&M8 past the first Island but it was full of Lizardmen.
Was there anything good about homm 6 and 7 apart from the monster girl waifus?
>>2396332a shit one :3
Is Motley the hands down strongest hero for Tournament?The Dungeon magic hero that buffs dancers and starts with twlight btw
>>2394482Impressive.
>>2395944Surely you jest
>>2396630They are still on that island. They'll get introduced with water travel & combat.
>>2396814Her boobs are massive!
>>2396630the hydra is already in Dungeon so I might have bad news for you
>>2391646Literally every non-cartoonishly evil human character is either a woman or non-white.
>>2396872I don't completely disagree, but Bighli is an old white dude and he is arguably the goodest boy in the story.
Now that the dust has settled...Is it good?
>>2396332Look like a designed second hero for picking up crap. Although still I feel like for this role still I'd prefer the crystal shitting cat hero from the same faction.
>>2396905In its current state its a lot of fun. Makes me look forward to what theyre cooking up
>>2395944>>2396814>>2396862imagine the nursing handjobs
>>2396905Yeah, I just want more content at this point.
I hope devs won't fold under pressure and change some designs too much, into something generic, 'classic', like dragons for example. There are problems with current ones, but I don't want them to become pure recolors with slightly different heads or something.
>>2397306They need to redesign all with massive titties.
>>2397321How she even walks around without those knockers popping out of her dress left and right?
This is the stack blocking off the exit from your tiny shitty starting area.wdyd
>>2397482Divine intervention
>>2397109Temple players HATE this rare pepe
Why are phoenixes literal fried chickens
>GROVE>NECROPOLIS>SCHISMI can't keep up with these heckin' Lexiav overviews, I still haven't started GROVE !!!
>>2397482She doesn't. "She"'s an image
>>2397579Level 4 Twilight
>>2398092not enough non-wood/ore resources for even level 2 magic guild, much less level 3just ore mine, wood mine and mercury storage
>>2397875Git gud humie.
>>2398657Noice.
So Schizo is the best faction?
>>2399037Temple is. But Schizos are pretty strong too.
should i get olden era or age of wonders 4?
>>2399169I loved both. Depends on werher you like 4X more or HOMM's niche. Also Multiplayer is better in HOMM.I'd recommend HOMM Olden Era since it's fresh if you wanna play MP. Plenty of newbies playing and figuring out the game. Later on MP is gonna be filled with veterans and harder to get into.
>>2398544Make one stacks of the highest speed unit you have and use them to block the shooters. I've found that a lot of the times the AI won't kill the one stacks blocking them but will instead move their shooters, essentially wasting their turn.Of course this means you will take losses in the first round before your one stacks can block.
>>2399169They're different types of games, it depends on what you like in gameplay. Planetfall is absolutely better than AoW4, though.
>>2399169Oh yeah, also what another anon said. If you want multiplayer, then 100% go for OE, it's not even close. But OE is in early access, so it really lacks in campaign and single player handmade scenarios for now, while IIRC AoW4 has a big finished campaign.
>>2399037Dungeon is.
If they add more heroes in the future to existing factions should they increase the ban limit for MP?
>>2399169Do you like conforming to some clearly defined preset fantasy armies, or making your own blend of fantasy culture trope shit?I have both and like them both, but that feels like the biggest difference between them for me, even though they do other stuff their own way. You're still developing cities, exploring an overworld, and fighting in turn based combat in both.
Trying to play hive really exposed how much I rely on rangemaxxingI can't play this shit
Why are some of the dark elves red in olden era? Weren't they supposed to be pale/grey/light purple
>>2399356they stayed out in the sun too long
>>2399037based, I'm a schizo too
>>2393016>>2393037https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPzfRb6c0kHow does it feel that he now says it's... *searches through papers* ..."a great game"? Come on, tell us about the inflammatory sensation in your rear.
>>2393761>I like how in the ending cimematic the Flaming Fist bloke looks at the statue of Balduran - the symbol of the surviving city. Who just tried to manipulate me into sucking his mantacle.Anon, Jergal makes it perfectly clear that it isn't Balduran - merely a creature who believes itself to be him due to absorbing his memories. Once you undergo ceremorphosis your soul gets fucking annihilated - can't get any more dead than that.
I haven't played the game at all, still not sure if I want to buy an EA product but I like watching Heroes OE unit/hero guides
>>2399588>Anon, Jergal makes it perfectly clear that it isn't BalduranDEBUNKED!
>>2399651>Believing AIwhen will sloperators learn that AI is a cancer
>>2399648To be honest it's in a better state right now than some games on a full release. At this point and in this case I'd say EA just means that they're very actively working on it. It returned profits after one day, I think it's basically guaranteed that it will receive fixes, updates and content.If you're mostly after campaign and hand-crafter singleplayer scenarios, then there's probably not enough content for you to justify an EA purchase. But the random map templates together with 6 very different factions and their laws are amazing at providing pretty much infinite replayability. And it has the most accessible and fun multiplayer I can recall in a TBS game.
>>2398657kek and saved
Am I retarded or something because I don't understand how necromancy works in this game at all. I never seem to raise any undead after any battle and my necro energy bar is always full, but when I hover hover over it it says "raising undead on"Seriously what am I missing
>>2399651Are you... using AI to try and debunk me? You know it hallucinates answers based on fucking Reddit posts?
>>2399817You only raise the highest tier unit stack in the defeated pack, and only if you have a corresponding tier undead unit in your army.For example, if you kill a pack of swordsmen and crossbowmen with only skeletons and dogs, you will raise nothing. in this case only crossbowmen will count for raising and you need at least one wight in your army for that to work.It's a bit overcomplicated, and they've already said that they're working on it.
>>2399888>>2399817it used to just work on everything in the demo, it got nerfed into overcomplicated mess in EA version to nerf it
>>2399817In the demo it was 'ALWAYS add up all the hp of defeated enemy units, take % of that equal to your necro power, then divide it between all the types of undead in your army, raising as many units of each as the gathered hp pool allows'. and I'm pretty sure there was no 'necrotic energy' limit.Now there is a weekly limit and it instead is 'IF NECRO RAISING IS TURNED ON add up the hp of the highest tier unit in the defeated enemy army, take % of that in necro power, pay necro energy for as much of it as possible, apply to the equivalent tier of undead raising as many as the gathered hp pool allows if you have that tier of undead in your army. If you don't nothing happens'
>>2399817also some units don't leave corpses to raise, a lot of Grove shits don't, so nature > undeath apparently
well done, olden era, well doneHOWEVER
>>2400144Interesting, HOWEVER...!>"referencia_01.jpg">purple haired human bitch on the cover picI think you lose this one, transwoman!Trigger the libs, own the libs!
>>2400144>>2400192Here's the real deal.
It only took me 1237 hours to beat the campaign. so yes, you could say I'm something of a "pro gaymer".
>>2389871I like Olden Era more than HOMM3, first advantage will be integrated competitive rulesets which makes it better than HOMM3 by default. While I'm against draft picking and nonce rules in games in general the only thing more homosexual is enforced external rulesets some fucking redditors came up with in their mom's basement. It invariably turns into something that attempts to remove all forms of cheese from the game and the only thing left is the blandest basedboy gruel.The only miss I've seen is some of the unit designs, upgraded dragons look fucking stupid, also a huge problem with upgraded Dread Knights and Vampires, I assumed it was a carry over from some other meme game but they look more like a moba hero skin. Shame about no Inferno but if it's set before the Kreegan invasion not much you can do. Hoping they add Stronghold and Fortress
>>2399888>highest tier unitYou raise the one that you see standing in the overworld
>>2400309It's the same thing, innit?
why does homm3 always play the intro video everytime i start it?already set the regedit vars to 0 but it keeps playing it
https://voca.ro/12xvwW0YYmU5
>>2400535>This what the average poltard sounds like
>>2400535But what lgbt shit is in the game? I didn't notice anything
>>2400543There's a Hive glorb hero that's covered in worms, he's called They
The campaign main character shouldn't have been a minotaur.It should have been a white human male who gets to romance various Dungeon, Schism and Grove females which leads to different missions.
>>2400553You seem like you want to play Divinity Dragon Commander instead.
>>2400192libs=owned!!!
>>2400222>I like Olden Era more than HOMM3Stopped reading there
>>2400711HOMM3 is the potential game
>>2400535(he wasn't putting on a voice btw, this is how this slav sounds normally; source: just played with him in dota 2, random matchmaking)
>>2400553based
>>2400572based Dragon Commander poster
>>2400389No. Sometimes the lower tier unit appears on the map
>>2399888This shit is overcomplicated, it feels like Schism is the better necromancy faction. I also wish it would tell you what got raised and how much in the after battle report.
>>2389871At least they give me one non-woke response in the first dialogue section of the campaign.
>>2400825Is… is she OK?
>>2400877Clearly she has an eating disorder
>>2400876I see two. But you're right, the 3rd option does seem annoyingly out of character for a grumpy minotaur soldier.
>>2400535why do /pol/tards think troons sound like this? I've seen a few vocaroos in other places doing his voice for troons
PSA: Quillin's ball lightning has no cooldown, so if you get the 3 artifact set that lets you use skills without ending your turn you can just spam it and clear entire battles in a single turn. Could use it up to 10 times if you have full focus bar and cast energize twice.
>>2400825Didn't know there's a game with Eugenia Cooney character. Still better than fat scum.
Codex veterans say this is mid
>>2401022Wtf is "Codex veterans"?
>>2401023It's a forum where boomers pretend to play games, they're just waiting for the right one to come out
>>2400144Why make this SO CLOSE to the real games release
>>2400876holy shit. horrible writing.
>>2401050That game was in EA before Olden Era was even announced.
>>2401030LMAO, of course. Who else could be behind the irrational shitpost hating of this successful Russian game?
>I like this old game because it's sovfvl and masterfully made>No, I never play it but I remember playing it 20 years ago>Wtf is this shit they're making a new one?>God it's awful, look at the not a literal 1:1 copy/not original enough rehash>Why do companies do this, why do they have to release sequels instead of making original IPs?>Yes the old game was the Nth entry in the series and radical departure from the old games but it doesn't matter.>Ugh, just a terrible game, I mean it's very popular and lots of people seem to like it.>I guess I'll bring myself to play it once X is added to the game.>Until then I will hate on the new one and pretend to play the old one>*X is added to the game*>repeat
>>2401073Surprisingly accurate representation of this shitty article and threadhttps://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=12677https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/rpg-codex-preview-heroes-of-might-and-magic-olden-era.154685/God damn, what an absolute saltmine shithole. I wonder what was their reaction to the EA release. Probably ass exploding to moon orbit, lmao.
>>2401065Ah I see
>>2401079This tells you all you need to know, none of them played the game at a competent level or even supported the game beyond its release cycle yet feels entitled to be catered to because they're all convinced they're supposed to be the core audience.They're calling out random map templates and Jebus specifically. Why would you want to play a completely solved strategy game you can just look up a walkthrough for?
>>2400877>>2400988She is the prettiest skeleton princess. There are also lizard, dwarf and elf princesses to choose from.
>>2400553The main sign a game (especially RPGs or games with RPG elements) is anti-white is if it has alien or fantasy race women and doesn't let a human MC romance them.The white man is a conqueror and explorer and the apex of humanity and his briliance exceds those of other species. So naturally alien/fantasy women should be conquered by him. If a game denies white men this, it is demoralizing them and saying that he is lesser and not worthy of the alien female's adoration I.E. not being able to conquer her. Proper fantasy/sci-fi show the male protagonist rising to overcome obstacles through his excelence and upright moral stature, thus despite there being more powerful and sncient races such as elves, asari etc. They recognize the human man's struggle and valor and fall for him. If a game denies this it's saying you will never amount to anything no matter how hard you try. This is exemplified in Rogue Trader by Owlcrap games where the Eldar woman no matter how much you help her, frogive her betreyal, put your neck on the line for her, she still humiliates you by forcing you into a non-sexual relationship with no touching allowed if you pursue her while not letting you see anyone else, setting all the rules.Meanwhile in Mass Effect Shepeard is given his proper treatment.So choose wisely which game you play and support.
I have /pol/fag fatigue
>>2400983Fucking lmao imagine spending an hour creeping and then you die like that
>>2400983kurwa dobre
>>2401079Whoa buddy, I was thinking about maybe getting the game last minute on steam despite EA, to not fomo on the 25% discount but luckily this article convinced me not to buy.
>>2400958Cause they don't have friends so they don't know what people sound like
>>2401079But they changed Ascension to be better since then, so I bet he likes the game now!
>>2401432Surely that was the problem and not just he was a seething old man yearning for a youthful constitution
Just won my first game against unfair AI. Early on I had a few difficult fights where I had to run or reload, because I just couldn't beat the enemy hero because he just had an overwhelmingly larger army. Turned around eventually, but overall I'm not sure if I liked it more than Hard. Kinda wish there was something in between those two difficulties.
>>2401114want skelly gf
How is your MP experience do you win more or lose more?
>>2401519She has SKINShe is a fake skelly
Fleu best wife
>>2401520I'm only facing sweats...
winning PvP with Motely
>>2397321Apparently she also has twink twin brother.
Total noob here, can you explain to me how to play magic heroes? Should I still be trying to pick up skills that help my troops, or go all in into magic skills? If I do the former, they feel like worse might heroes, if I do the latter - cool, I cast some extra blessings or whatever, but I could have just had those stats on my units anyway passively if I picked the other skills
>>2401910There are some buffs/debuffs that might skills can't replace like mass twilight (prevents all enemy ranged units from shooting) or mass weakening ray (no retaliations for most enemy stacks)
I have come to the conclusion that EA is not worth it because by the time it ends in 2028, all the skills will be completely different and shit.
>>2401910You want to pick at least one magic school, usually daylight or nightshade, because buffs and debuffs are a great utility regardless of your class.
What are your favourite templates to play?I tend to go with 128x128 L ones with 3-5 players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3GikE4_o-sMogs all the other town themes. Only Dungeon even comes close imo.
>>2401981Solo tournamentExodus
I am so distrusting of "sequels" and "new releases" that when I heard about this I went and played Songs of Conquest instead, decent game, now I'm playing HoMM3.Anything but the DEI postmodern Early Access dystopia
>>2402033Ok anon have fun with those we'll continue playan Olden Era
>>2401910You pick battle magic, one spell school or wisdom, thaumaturgy, optionally summon avatar, and the rest are generally useful skills like logistics and offense/defense.
God damn, that one necro hero with Master Rewind Life is god tier. I mean the spell is fantastic on its own already, but pumping your ghosts with it early in a fight lets them snowball really well, can easily carry you in early game, and stays effective even later on.
>>2402150Do ghosts keep the extra numbers after battle?
>>2402184No, but you will incur no losses unless the enemy kills all temporary units in a stack and then some more.I haven't played him myself, but I saw a video months ago (demo version) of a guy using Ghosts and Rufus to easy mode early/mid game.
I don't care about PvP at all. Literally why should I bother? If I wanted to play against Russians, I can play Dota 2.>>2401126I have librul fatigue. /pol/ is welcome here.
>>2402327Why would anyone want to play Dota 2, regardless of the opponent's ethnicity? Ew.Here you can at least play and chill on actually good templates with no boxes or banks.
>mfw all this time I thought Jebus Cross was named after a Stronghold hero with a goblin portrait named Jesus
>>2402408It's a reference to the Simpsons episode when Homer becomes a missionary and keeps saying Jebus instead of Jesus
Eyooo Day9 says this is a skibidi banger. This is a huge dub for us, Z sisters
>>2402485Now translate it to human language.
>>2402534Eyooo (hello) Day9 (a former Brood War pro/commentator turned streamer) says this is a skibidi (quirky but charming) banger (really good), This is a huge dub (dub as in doub-le U W as in Win) for us, Z (gen-Z born 97-'12) sisters (people who share an identity gossiping on the internet)
>This game looks odd it looks like a mobile game>The old game looked like Jason and the Argonauts I remember working my first summer job to go see it at the movies>We figured out how to play over the internet by emailing save files between us and then played hot seat on our computers>Jeremy used to always sneak a peak at what the other guy was doing>I miss Jeremy, the old dog died 30 years ago from cancer it was the Asbestos y'know
>>2402605I see.
New patch just droppednew difficulties and some balanceshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3105440/view/703267707461568588
>>2401981For me it's tournament Exodus
what the fuck
>>2402834>American dragon
Temple Knights need to be tier 6 badlyI hate how the knights get rezzed as liches and inquisitors as dread knights
>>2402534>>2402605A valiant effort HOWEVER "Z sisters" was actually supposed to mean "Zpecial (operation Z) sisters", referring to the fact that this game was made in Cyprus (= by draft dodging Russians)
>>2402990
>>2402998Not her, but what does this photoshopped picture of Kojima holding WANKOH (russian for wanker?) by Maxim KRYT mean?
>>2402990>by draft dodging RussiansThere's no draft in Russia, clown.
>>2402939Lol, not wrong.
So do the heroes with necromancy specialization make any sense now that we have a necromancy limit?
>>2403295Well yeah, considering you can turn it on and off to specifically raise the units hat you want.
why is Temple cucked out of tier 5 spells
>>2403369Only a few Towns have access to max level Mage Guilds
>>2403369Temple is faithmaxxing, so they got magemogged.
>>2403393one of the schools of magic is literally faithmaxxing
>>2403373by few you mean most
>>2403425Oh I guess Grove and Hive got level 5 so only Schism and Temple that lose out
Why did they name her so goofily
>set up game with friends>try single hero with hard eco/ai>kill themselves on neutrals 2 weeks in>try multi hero with hard eco/ai>kill themselves on neutrals 3 weeks in, not enough resources to start over>try multi hero with easy eco/ai and an ai faction against us>ai faction slamdunks them>fuck it, its single hero with everything on easy>i get absolutely fucked by the map generation, its a stride through brimstone nigger hell>only to see them kill themselves on neutrals a month inhow do i counter this retardation?
And the discount is gone... woosh... I haven't bought
>>2403475Ask him to finish a tutorial fist. Obviously someone who is capable of fucking it up on hard, let alone fucking easy is in dire need of going through the tutorial and the challenges.
>>2403496its not a lack of knowledge of the game its lack of critical thinking, they know the game just will try to fuck with shit hey should know they cant fucking defeat
>>2403520There's a lot of shit in this game that you can fuck with given proper knowledge. If the guy fucks it up on easy, challenges might be precisely the content that he needs. There's some unironically good beginner tips there, like how to kite, how to use 1stacks, how to utilise magic against an overwhelming army, etc.
>>2403475I only played hotseat HOMM2 and 3 as a kid and it took me 8 games before I won Jebus against Hard AI
>>2403475Tell them to watch an hour of Turin playing a faction
>>2403622>not lexiavtransphobic much?
I like the dread knight specialist guy and the hydra specialist dusa desu
