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———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———
>Player Led Peace Conferences
Effectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944

>Toolpack
Gives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560

>Better AI
Swaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283

>Industrial Expansion
Adds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501

———NOTABLE OVERHAUL MODS———
Pic related, too big for 2000 character limit

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———NEWS TICKER NOISE———
In no particular order:
>Enclave mod for OWB updated, play it
>TFR updated, did a unit rebalance
>Code Geass mod updated, has Russia content and waifus
>CWIC updated, added some countries
>TNO has its US rework and Germany demo leaked by an angry dev
>Mods are slowly but surely becoming updated to work with the latest HOI4 patch
Remember to check your version if you encounter crashes with your favorite mods

>>2448077
Boog reunification super event -> https://files.catbox.moe/5tfo9q.mp4

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>>2448080
>Enclave mod for OWB updated
>it's the gay "let's all get along!" path
>the based "kill them all and let God sort them out" path still leads to a failstate

>>2448084
A purist overhaul is planned, but it'll probably be filled with moralfagging and every other event will call the player an evil heckin chud for playing this path.

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———INTERESTING POSTS FROM LAST THREAD———

Let's try this out to prevent the usual deluge of questions about change logs and updates from last week.

>>2442791
CWIC patch notes.

>>2443271
ERX change log.

>>2445849
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3759973824
Code Geass update discussion.

>>2448007
Big CWIC drama brewing with Likgas & Co.

>>2446070
TNO Git leak discussion and links.

>>2447462
Anon finds that TNO's Africa rework is just a worse TFR Africa thanks to OTLism.

>>2448084
You sound upset. Why don't you crack open a Nuka and finally talk to that cute deathclaw gal next door? Don't forget your protective power-armored pelvic plate if you get lucky.

>>2448083
i started chanting no more lies while watching this

>>2448094
Patriot, now go tar and feather (soak in gasoline and light on fire) your local tyrant (mailman) like the Founding Fathers would want you to do.

>>2448091
>Why don't you crack open a Nuka and finally talk to that cute deathclaw gal next door?
I'm waiting for Cherchez La Femme to pop up

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>>2448095
ill make sure to wear my wendigoon hawaiian shirt while doing that

>>2448077
>Yellow ringed generals belong to the Free American Army
>Purple ringed generals belong to the Kekoas
>Pink ringed generals belong to the Revolutionary Brigade
I would presume grey ringed generals are the neutral ones who can be swayed to join one of the three groups/paths, but what's going on with the green ringed ones?

>>2448111 (Me)
Just noticed under "Established Garrisons:' there's what I think is a group called 'Rule of Man', possibly a secret fourth path that are radical individualists similar to the one path in Cascadia?

>>2448111
green ringed ones are selected
>>2448113
devs sad that they are generals that haven't joined any faction, free agents essentially

>>2448116
>green ringed ones are selected
Yeah now that I'm looking closer you can see a faint yellow line surrounding the portrait, hadn't noticed that at first and only saw the green.

>>2448077
Who are the kekoas?

>>2448118
I looked them up and they're actually a real group, they're a militant boog-esque group that split off from the boogs themselves at some point. In the mod they're the most violent/extreme of the three paths.

What do the Boogs even do? They don't seem to be lolberts.

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>Steven Carillo actually got in a gun and pipe bomb fight with three cops IRL
>He killed one of them and is currently serving 43 years in prison
>“The police are the guard dogs, ready to attack whenever the owner says, ‘Hey, sic ’em, boy,’”
>“This is what I came to fight. I’m sick of these goddamn police.”
>During the mayhem and bloodshed that followed, Carrillo engaged in a running gun battle with law enforcement officers, hurling pipe bombs and hijacking vehicles. In his own blood, he scrawled “BOOG” and “I became unreasonable” and “Stop the Duopoly” — all common Boogaloo slogans — on the hood of a car he had stolen. And at some point, he sent one more WhatsApp message to his fellow Grizzly Scouts: “Dudes i offed a fed.”
Say what you will about the guy, but you can't call him a larper. He really was about that shit.

>>2448121
They're militant extreme lolberts who think a 2ACW or 'boog' is inevitable and prep for it by hording guns and body fat. It's mostly larp but some of them weren't fucking around.

>>2448123
They think the 2ACW is inevitable, but they don't try to make it happen?

>Be CWIC dev nigger
>release a new update
>it's so bad even your bootlicker communist hates it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibOJ9TZO84E

>>2448125
Supposedly Carillo was trying to kick off a 2ACW with his shootings.

>>2448084
>>2448086
>troons make bad mods
>sky is blue

>>2448130
ERX isn't a bad mod, it's just a bit bloated and the lead dev is clearly biased towards the restored democracy full integration reformers path. Really they just need to trim off some of the fat and hand over the Purists side of the mod over to people who actually like them.

>>2448128
And instead of shooting someone of note and bombing somewhere of note as a false flag he shoots a random cop? They aren't exactly doing it right.

>>2448135
Not Carillo but six Boogaloo Boys got arrested for allegedly planning to abduct Michigan's libshit senator.

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>>2448136

>>2448132
>ERX isn't a bad mod, it's just a bit bloated and the lead dev is clearly biased towards the restored democracy full integration reformers path. Really they just need to trim off some of the fat and hand over the Purists side of the mod over to people who actually like them.

Your right it not being an bad mod since OWB is fun, still I feel like the addition of "LE WHOLESOME DEMOCRACY!!!" path is the same tier of "LE WHOLSOME 100 SABLIN!!!" even though Sablin was way more radical and considered the Soviet government soft and Bourgeoisie. Not really new to this issue. I know how much TNO fucking bastardizes historical figures, as an example I legit looked up the historical backgrounds of the figures who lead the German colonies in TNO (IE Wolfgang Schenck, Siegfried Müller, and Hans Hüttig) their all legit fucking historical nobodies that have no right leading massive colonies where is the Reichskolonialbund?!

But yes back to my point, that path feels wrong for the Enclave and just feels shoved in. I had my own phase of wanting the Enclave to be wholesome democracy or whatever but I just accepted their ideology and ironically support killing mutant niggers.

>>2448136
>six FBI agents got arrested for allegedly planning to abduct Michigan's libshit governor
FTFY

>Cold War mod gets updated after 3 years
>Nothing fucking changed
I am BEGGING for a good Cold War mod/game at this point

>>2448136
Was that a real thing? I thought the whole thing was either fake, or quietly dropped when it turned out the dudes were FBI plants.

>>2448007
KEEP SEETHING LIKGAS. YOU ASTROTURFED DRAMA WHORING SHILL

>>2448164
CWIC is trooning out on him
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxaTxzs_faSNIlpYDqg0j5TciYDLYctnmu?si=YvHZyCP8b9Syk1kh

What's with every mod creator just avoiding major nations? This is happened to like almost every big mod in the past few years where the major nations have very little or no content but fucking micronations have 20+ years of content for some reason.

>>2448139
>>2448132
>>2448130
Think we should judge ERX based on the lens of the lead dev, Zach is a boomer, a military boomer, a military boomer who works for the inteligence service.
Dude is the most idealist military guy I ever talked to, and this probably why the ideal Granite is the wholesome guy who restores order to the wasteland and fix all the issues, turning murica essentially in an utopia, that's how he wants the world, that's how he sees the gov he works for. Granite is his 80s manly hero who arm wrestle deathclaws and has 3 potential romance optioms

I don't think they will trim events, it will only get bigger and with more GUIs from there on, is probably a side effect of him getting hyper focused on the mod.
With the exception of the troon machine event, found most of them to be quite inofensive, they are just idealistic, murica fock yeah stuff, with the mandatory commie dunk.

>>2448142
How do you even make a cold war mod anon? Hoi4 is built on HOT wars, when your mod rely on a bunch of side activities and minigames to work, instead of actual wars, you already lost

>>2448185
You can pull way more bullshit on Nbwangi Nigast Niggadom than America anon, that's the gist of it. If you alt history mod, or worse, hist mod, doesn't deviate much from our world, writing for majors can be quite restricting.
Although, I dunno what you are talking about, most mods that got released lately (Red Dawn, Critical Collapse, TFR, that HL mod) all gave majors content. KR and KX got a few updates for european tags, everything else from the old guard is bogged down, lame or abandoned

>>2448185
TFR is the exception, but thats the one mod where they actually have several minors with genuinely cool situations. Wagner Congo, the Saudi Civil War, ISIS Somalia, shit... America even has a crapload of literal street gangs and Cults duking it out in the Civil War. That's the one mod where you could have some random South Pacific Islands and create a worthwhile game out of them.

>>2448164
The error log-Loredad sphere is genuinely one of the worst things to ever happen to hoi4 modding unironically. They are 100% industry plants made by paradox

>>2448217 (me)
Error log is also a massive opportunist who will say anything to make him more popular

>>2448217
I wouldn't call him a paradox plant but he is deeply connected with both modders and other YouTubers. He is also a drama whore which is one of the reasons he was initially banned from the EAW and TFR discord.

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>>2448187
>boomer
Really? I thought he was a zoomer, I guess that explains his naive idealism towards multiculturalism and American democracy. All though I guess he isn't that naive since the GUI includes options to bribe Senate members to get bills passed. I just hope he chills on the bloat, the new update added the ability to produce construction equipment but I have no idea what you're supposed to use it for.

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>>2448164
>>2448217
>>2448220
>>2448272
Likgas is the biggest fucking attention whoring retard fag ever. He's even harassing KX devs now.

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>>2448217
Friendly reminder that loredad left the caesarreich dev team because one of the devs there (who got permabanned because of it) joked about sending child porn to him. the team managed to sweep this drama under the rug but it's imo the funniest bit i have from the whole of loredad's "career"

>>2448289
is there a single normal dev team??

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>>2448139
TNO taking very minor historical figures and elevating them to glory is honestly the least of their problems and a lot of it makes sense. A lesser officer ascending to glory after 20 years of service post-victory? I'll buy it and it led to some of the mod's best moments. Incidentally, all of which are being deleted. I'll easily take that over the current deluge of OTL slop or the very lazy use of minor figures where they just turn them into a generic dictator or puppet. At least Muller and Tabby are memorable. You could use the same criticism at something like TFR and just delete the entire ACW because most non-federal leaders are nobodies and losers IRL. Trust me it's a lot better that modders try to have a bit of fun with these things.

>>2448190
You got it all wrong. The problem is that these mods take the blandest, most useless shithole ever and makes it into the most boring slop ever like picrel. If they actually did something with it people wouldn't complain anywhere near as much. I don't think writing for majors is restrictive either as long as you aren't a creatively bankrupt moron that can't write a good setting. TFR turned their America into an interesting nightmarescape by just making Covid worse since they're creative. TNO takes the whole upending of world history with an Axis victory and just has OTL America do lazy OTLism and the occasional thinly veiled TDS analogue. Just don't be a retard and write yourself into a corner for no reason. It's that simple.

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>>2448286
Related, have a screenshot of KRG devs seething at his video about the mod

>>2448141
>>2448143
Were they feds? Well the mod should ignore that and just add those guys as advisors/generals.

>>2448303
Dude literally everyone hates him. He's the only person on the planet that could make people sympathize with KRG by simply being his usual bitch-made self like whining about their liberal credentials after finding a slur on their Discord from 2023.

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>>2448317
His KRG video actually had some solid points instead of just screeching
Also
>sympathize with KRG devs

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>>2448303
thats kind of required for a cold war mod, no?
kalterkrieg is just market liberal vs market liberal vs market liberal vs market liberal

>>2448323
I don't believe it. I bet it's a fucking bum fight and KRG just seemed like the less methed out loser.

>>2448328
>market liberal vs market liberal vs market liberal vs market liberal
TNO is giving me those vibes too lately by just sterilizing everything. Like how they turned their African war from a big hyperwar between GIs and the SS into an influence struggle over random African strongmen and replaced the Nazi RK crazies with collaborator strongmen puppets. Nowhere near as bad obviously but it feels like the neoliberal mind just can't imagine what an interesting battle of beliefs even is.

>>2448341
>Nowhere near as bad obviously but it feels like the neoliberal mind just can't imagine what an interesting battle of beliefs even is.
A huge problem that many writers and a part of the audience have in a lot of media is the belief that representation means approval.
If I depict various factions in my fictional media and there is le big bad, this doesn't mean I approve of le big bad. Out of most ideologies I LARPed as in TFR, I despise more than half of them. Yet the playthroughs were still fun.

>>2448328
there is a distinction
kalterkrieg is about the entente being nafoid liberal democracies with no far-(left/right) paths allowed while the pakt is driven by vaguely generic authoritarianism

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>>2448347
It's not just representation but also the fact that the bad guys either have to lose, or at the very least the player must be beaten over the head with reminders that X is evil.

It's kinda odd TFR doesn't have a hip hop station, they really should add one. Especially since BLA is getting content.

>>2448303
post all dev logs you kalter pussy

>>2448284
Yeah, he's in the weird spot between the boomer and millenial generation
>Construction equipment
Think it's probably for pre-war factories, commonwealth rebuilding or road/raild

>>2448293
>Using TNO as a comparison
Everything the Nu team delivers is boring anon, it's not a proper comparison

>>2448402
TNO is just the gold standard of failure these days.

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>Reposting
>>2447565
>>2447566
>>2447568

>>2447512
The comment section is ABSOLUTELY VINDICATING TNO hate.
This is a great reminder that /vst/ was right again, TNO is a shit mod, and that is indeed the majority opinion.

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After the mega leak and everyone learning that TNO's Germany demo is a disaster and that the US rework is a comedy of errors that won't release this year TNO is about to drop below 600K again.

>>2448496
>Barely reach 600k after the mod you internally created a non reciprocal rivalry
>Constantly rise and fall below 600k after releasing an update no one gave a shit about
>On track to lose more subscribers after your anticipated update is leaked and people notice its not close to being done

>>2448504
reminder
The only subscribers they are losing are active subscribers that actually play the game.
So all those legacy subs from years back don't even know how bad it is right now.

>>2448506
>TNO is like a dead YouTube channel with millions of subs and no views

>>2448354
Do the devs think that those who playing the game are toddlers?
>>2448515
Is TNO even alive at this point?

>>2448496
>>2448504
>>2448506
Yeah, it's no a good metric for mods that are older than 1/2 years, subs only matter when the mod is young. Most steam users don't know how to unsub, they will either let the mod rot in their files or unistall the game

>>2448520
Respectively: No they think that everyone playing their mod is a genius when in fact it's only fart huffing Redditors and no it's not alive. Maybe not dead, but certainly not alive.

>>2448525
It is a good metric for the decay of the mod when they keep failing and all other mods stomp them into the ground.

>>2448354
I really want a TNOified TFR mode:
>le heckin wholesome 100 anarchorinos
>Evil Trump who fails no matter what
>A billion AOC events
>Wholesome 100 Harris
>The Cognoscenti, Schwab, and Eurasia removed. Instead you get a 500 word essay on why theyre unrealistic conspiracy theories that literally kill transfolx.
>Neonazis crippled, braindead ANTIFA revenge porn and a generic ANTIFA good guy faction.
>Viewpoint characters are either retard turbo nazis or questionably aged and overly detailed activist super heroes.
>A thousand focuses and events for some South Pacific Micronation.
>Literal event bitching at the player for trying to form Polynesia or doing anything fun with said micronations.
Just have a bunch of spelling errors and empty focuses and you're good to go.

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In response to the fallout from the disastrous Germany demo leak and the threat of falling under 600K again, TNO has pledged to rework Kazakhstan from scratch and turn the tag into GUI slop. All wars with Russia will be removed too.

>>2448533
Don't forget the events badmouthing TFR and Attack on Titan. The latter of which sound particularly desperate.

>>2448560
Wait, TNO attacked those mods in events? Screenshots? Are they funny?

>>2448563
Not sure about the former... the latter? As soon as that mod gets announced, there will be a meltdown.

>>2448533
Also:
>Loji and Caligula Biden removed for being unrealistic schizo paths
>AWD gets 2 paths removed and middle path gutted
>Navalny can't go ultranationalist anymore
>Revanchist China gets the genocide paths removed

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Red World updated.

>>2448560
>badmouthing Attack on Titan
Based, after that God awful ending it deserves nothing less than constant ridicule and slander.

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>>2448090
>communist state
>hereditary monarchy

>>2448187
So he chose the gayest form of American hero and made Granite be gay by including integration for muties? How about Granite still is cool and fucks ai girls whilst napalming mutie settlements? He is a member of the ENCLAVE. Wastelanders? Fine, with radiation removal treatment. Ghouls? If they are useful they can be like Hannibal Lecter in government facilities.
>turning murica essentially in an utopia
If Zach is a military glowie guy and he thinks that an American utopia is a kumbaya-hold-hands-together thing then he is gay. An American utopia is the 1950s but dialled up to 100 and for perpetuity, which is literally the aesthetic of the Enclave.

>>2448614
Is the Diana romance exclusive to the integrationist route?

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>>2448615
To my understanding it is. Which makes no sense to me personally, an AI supercomputer is the most pure thing you could wife up.

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>>2448616
I haven't played Diana's route yet, but is she super progressive/inclusive? Maybe she wouldn't want dick from a segregationist Granite? Who does he fuck in the segregation route anyway? Whenever I play ERX I either go Purist or full Reformer.

Does anyone know what part of the map the OWB devs plan to add next? I really hope it's the Chicago area so we can finally get the main Enclave branch added.

>>2448167
This is really fucking funny considering that half of his video on TGWR was moralfagging about offensive language on their Discord. He who lives by the sword...

>>2448286
Send us examples of that dramafag hounding KX devs, I wanna see this shit

>>2448639
There's posts about it on KF but the short of it is just that he tried to get in touch with a few to learn the inner workings about the mod and was shocked to learn that they thought he was an annoying shit. It's more or less what he posts in every thread and comments section everywhere except it was aimed personally at a few devs. Nothing came of any of that just like no one with half a brain reaches out to him any more.

>>2448617
It has been a hot minute since I last played and if I recall correctly the segroute is underdeveloped. Diana has the whole feminist thing going on but I don't see any real incompatibilities with Granite, seg or otherwise. Even then I can definitely see a segregation Granite focusing on a cure for the wastelanders which an AI supercomputer focused on healing the world would chop at the bits to be part of.

>>2448560
What's the deal with Attack on Titan?

>>2448658
anons joked about a hypothetical attack on titan hoi4 mod that would come out before tno delivers something

>>2448614
>Granite gay
Tf are you on?
>Reformist is a kumbaya hold hands shtick
Did you play the tag or are you just ranting based on events? If you go full transparecy/naive route by outing you as the enclave, the country straight explodes in the current path, and you only recovers by putting tons of work, and even the epilogue tells the player that the common men still hold some grudges against ghouls and supa mutants. People don't magically start to accept you or "america" by just pressing a few focuses, there's lot of infighting, possible rebellions and shadowy actors trying to undermine your project. Integralist is the "golden route" which run you ragged and will be harder and harder as more updates get out.
If you want a middle line, just play Segregation, differently from TNO, you don't get called for it
>>2448615
Nyo, it happens in segregation and integralist paths, just not in the eternal president route. If you go Nevada, Granite will stay with Marianne, the mob boss from the 205th
>>2448619
Think the next patch (if it ever drops) will be about the Plaguelands area, so Site Y plotline

>>2448619
>Does anyone know what part of the map the OWB devs plan to add next?
Minnesota. Chicago is after that.

>>2448666
>just not in the eternal president route
This is bullshit, she can be an immortal AI but he can't be a benevolent dictator (the ultimate form of governance btw).

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>>2448666
>Granite gay
Genuinely confused how you read that at face value when I follow it up with "by including integration for muties". I was calling it fag behaviour, I doubt the dev will actually add a gay romance but then again he is into tranny shit based on that Legion thing.
>the ideal Granite is the wholesome guy who restores order to the wasteland and fix all the issues, turning murica essentially in an utopia, that's how he wants the world, that's how he sees the gov he works for. Granite is his 80s manly hero who arm wrestle deathclaws and has 3 potential romance optioms
This is what I was responding to, you misunderstood me. I wasn't exactly being polished with my points so that is fair.
I am saying that the "ideal" goal should not be a America where humans and mutants get on, live with each other and the government tells the complete truth and respects everyone (including raider's) human rights. This is the Enclave, even moderated that should still mean something in my view. Using Granite as a vessel to demonstrate the dev's (Zach's) ideal utopian America is bad writing and should not be done. If you enjoy that then it is fine but I simply think they have caricatured the Reformists into something that they simply are not and just should not be possible. Other the, the bloat, it just adds so much to a tag that really does not need it and should not have it. I have used the example of the Legion before, if there is a submod which adds the equivalent of ERX's Granite at his most liberal then you would have a completely egalitarian Legion where women are respected and minority tribes are not culturally atomised but instead you have retardtribe#56 history month. It just is not the Legion. What ERX allows you to do is just not the Enclave. There is an argument that I am being a no fun allowed fag and I appreciate that but just play a different tag if you want to be wholesome Lyons Brotherhood with NCR characteristics and no bigotry.Big fan of the other stuff

>>2448641
For all the retard shit that dramawhore does, I always find it interesting how its always fags and troons he's starting fights with

>>2448682
Especially since he's a libshit himself. Nonstop friendly fire whenever Likgas is involved.

Does Darkest Hour have a bug with the plane designer? The only model I can use for all of them is the BF109. Also I get they are going for historical depth but they went a bit far with having that many techs to research for aircraft.

>>2448662
Alongside a post apocalyptic TFR scenario (that an autist almost ruined), a Pokémon mod, and a game where Gunther won his match. All three will come out before TNO.

>>2448722
NTA but what's the Pokémon mod?

>>2448726
Another shitpost making fun of TNO. That will also come out before TNO updates.

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>>2448722
Post Apocalyptic TFR did sound fun.

"In the perpetual chilly autumn, where fog blots out the sun, what's left of civilization fights to survive. Surrounded by degenerate Raiders, the mechanical nightmares of a dying AI, and gene spliced abominations, man rages against the dying of the light. Extinction approaches... Fight it!"

Even Idea Guy's surviving Cognoscenti was pretty cool, the one good idea about the government surviving through NORAD.

>>2448760
That sounds closer to Fallout than TFR, to be honest.

>>2448763
True. But Loji creating Blame! Robots that mindlessly wander the ruins of China isnt out of character.

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>>2448763
>>2448764
It is Fallout... Then Loji shows up with her husbando and it becomes Blame!. When her deadbeat ex boyfriend shut down, she decided to make a new one that wasn't based off a senile old man

>>2448401
>Yeah, he's in the weird spot between the boomer and millenial generation
Genxer.

>>2448560
Wut? Did TNO have an AOT event?

>>2448579
Is the Korean skeleton focus tree of jyst decisions and events?
Also where the fuck is Soviet rework, Germany and Canada? How can they be this incompetent? They literally started this fanfork to finish those.

>>2448354
>X is evil
Sonzai X is evil, though

>Decision to buy an offmap civ and mil for 25 billion dollars each
>The decision is available every two months or so
>Literally have over 4 trillion dollars and a positive balance

NATO finna boutta get dabbed on.

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Tag yourself

>>2448890
Knights in Shining Red Armour and American Gothic

>>2448890
what is this from?

>>2448898
Red Flood

>>2448901
lol, they can't even finish Burning Memories what is the pointbof teasing something so far off as US that will never come out

>>2448901
is it some sort of teaser?
inherit the wind by the way

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>>2448907
It's a teaser for a bunch of post collapse USA paths. These were the ones revealed so far.

>>2448727
I need to see this

>>2448911
cool i got mencken

>>2448895
>American Gothic
Okay, Mike Ma.

>>2448911
a lot more despotic and socialist paths than i was expecting

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>>2448911
there was another teaser posted to reddit but reddit fucking sucks and i dont know how to make the image look not like shit

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>>2448988
as a platform it is kind of ass

>>2449010
thanks anon

Now that the dust has settled, what's the verdict on the leak of TNO's US and Germany demo builds? Is the mod completely dead now that we know that at least the German team made up all progress and haven't done anything in five years or can they rebound?

>>2448766
>Loji only makes literal bishonen K-Pop star androids.
>Literally: construction, military, hell even the literal burger flippers and janitor bots are handsome men.
>And that's all she makes.

>>2448911
I swore Kaiserreich missed a golden opportunity by not having Robert E. Howard as an extremely late game AUS president. Taking over after couping a tyrannical succesor... Just like a certain barbarian from another age.

Disaster: Death of Peace, The Death of Honor: Legacy of Wall Street Crash and Collapsing World: Rise of Radicalism all feel like the same fucking mod.

>>2448911
my guess for A Shining City On A Hill is that its reagan

>>2449190
Leaders are still unknown but the devs revealed the ideologies already:
Recall The Experience - SocRep
Shining City - NatLib
Morlockracy - NatSoc
Moloch - SocLib
Knights in Shining Red Armor - RelSoc

>>2449187
Disaster was dead on arrival, the second one I've literally never heard of before and it looks like it's in an alpha of an alpha, I'm betting it won't go much further.

>>2449190
Don’t think it could be. He didn’t really become a political figure until the 60s and they took out Burroughs for the same reason of not being prominent until the 50s. Plus I couldn’t see him being anywhere else than California but I think all the Cali leaders have been revealed.
>>2448911
Positive Morlockracy is Nationalist Socialism but we still don’t know the leader.

>>2449249
oh well i thought the idea of a young reagan saving america from socialism would be interesting

It doesn't pan out that way because the AI sucks, but realistically, at what point in the TFR timeline do you think tanks become obsolete?

>>2449380
Never because tanks are simply too valuable. They are the #1 vehicle killer and one of the best ways of directly supporting infantry. If they were obsolete then neither Ukraine nor Russia would actually use them in OTL. Drones won't make them obsolete.

>>2449385
Er...they dont. Not really. They've been reduced to shorter range artillery platforms, they can't perform their intended frontline role.

>>2449392
They absolutely can it's just that the Ukraine War is an anomaly due to both sides having no air superiority but a lot of intelligence and precision munitions, which is why you get the trench warfare. Even then both Ukraine and Russia need tanks. Direct vehicle fighting still exists.
If you can actually bomb the enemy properly and fuck their ISR and C2 the fighting immediately becomes mobile. Another issue for Ukraine is that they lack a bunch of support vehicles needed for actual offensives.
When they went for the 2023 counter offensive they had few mine clearing and engineering vehicles to deal with fortified positions. The ones they did have were targeted by helicopters which would be less of an issue with actual air superiority and more air defense.
There is a reason many NATO countries expand their armored units while being fully aware of drone warfare and prioritizing that as well. The Bundeswehr for example made it standard for every recruit to learn how to operate FPVs yet they still effectively double their armored units over the next years.
Tanks will never become obsolete. They are as eternal as paratroopers.

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>>2449395
>Tanks will never become obsolete. They are as eternal as paratroopers.
>eternal as paratroopers
You can drop the troll act anon, we've had our laugh now.

>>2449415
I memed a bit on the paratrooper part due to people saying everything becomes obsolete because of muh drones. Massed paradrops like they were done in WW2 are most likely not coming back. However paratroopers themselves will continue to exist. FPVs by all means make smaller teams of paratroopers more viable since they now have their own strike capabilities and are less reliant on CAS or indirect fire.
>"But what if muh FPVs target paratroopers?"
I will consneed when the US can't pull things like setting up FARPs 400km behind enemy lines or something like the recent CSAR for the F-15 pilot anymore.
Having a part of your force be light infantry that can deploy to every place you need within 24 hours is absolutely important. Even in modern warfare they matter like when some random Middle Eastern country does a heckin' regime change and you need to quickly deploy a force to evacuate your own citizens, as has been done in Libya for example.
They are also have the advantage of their staging area being way out of enemy range. Simply the ability to get thousands of soldiers close to the frontline that quickly is important. However their actual uses are more limited compared to WW2.

>>2449395
>There is a reason many NATO countries expand their armored units while being fully aware of drone warfare and prioritizing that as well
Yeah the reason is that it's just an excuse for Rhinemetall to make money and it's not actually about defence capability. You combine that with bureaucratic inertia and stupid shit happens.

You're working at this backwards. The US Navy doesn't operate frigates, but that isn't because frigates are useless (quite the opposite), it's because their procurement process is so fucked they literally cannot design a frigate. Until AA Stryker variant came out, they also had no mobile AA systems whatsoever - again, that's not because they're a useless kind of weapon, but out of sheer arrogance. They simply assumed they would have total air dominance forever. Conversely, they still use the A-10 not because the A-10 is still a good aircraft but because the Army wants a dedicated CAS aircraft but isn't allowed to operate their own, and the Air Force refuses to promise to get another one after retiring the A-10, so its retirement is held hostage as a result of office politics, not because the thing is still usable on a modern battlefield.

>>2449420
>an excuse for Rhinemetall to make money
Rheinmetall is a major producer of drones as well so they make money either way.

Germany also had comparable retardations like the ones you pointed. The Gepard was phased out due to the same retardation and an attempt at budgeting.

>>2449425
The Europeans make nowhere near enough drones to fight a war and their anti-drone training and equipment is completely fucked. The Ukrainians annihilate European armored forces in exercises every time they're invited, they fight like it's still 2022.

>>2449427
Which is why they are trying to fix it. Like what else are they supposed to do?
Training around drones didn't really exist before early 2026. Should have happened earlier but looking at the original post, I don't see them selling off every tank they own to a bunch of Gulf states because they consider them obsolete.

Are there mods that you guys are looking for forward to?

>>2449433
Scourge Of Prometheus, Over The Horizon and Brave New World.

>>2449433
Twilightstruggle seems cool. Other than that most new mods just seem to leach off of the global collapse genre.

>>2449433
i know everyone here is excited for this
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/SunshineLollipopsAndRainbows

>>2449441
this is an ARYAN gem

why are TFRfags so obsessed with TNO?

>>2449453
Can we please stop with tno discourse. Theirs a containment thread for a reason.

the only mods we will discuss from now on are beyond your comprehension and red flood

>>2449454
This is a MOD DISCUSSION THREAD and TNO is a mod, simple as

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>>2449456
i <3 my leaked unreleased dev build of BYC anon

>>2449496
atlantis from byc or atlantis from dib
which is better

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>>2449503
wrong screenshot

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>>2449504
woah they named a city after the superevents guy

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>>2449504
>>2449496
DIB atlantis is more implemented than BYC so it kinda wins by default

>>2449486
Tno has its own thread dedicated to it for a reason. Why would you even want to discuss it. unless theres any new info you’ll just end up in circles repeating what’s already been said a million times.

>>2449510
how do we save byc

>>2449512
Oh, I actually have nothing to discuss, but if it get updated or a teaser I will post about it here

>>2449453
TNO is a widely hated mod because then nu-leads see troublemakers that picked fights with several other teams and devs for no reason ranging from Kaiserreich to EAW. The rivalry with TFR is especially pronounced because TFR is everything they hate and they were completely beaten by it. It's a bunch of anons dancing on the early grave of a lolcow basically.

>>2449486
TNO has a containment thread and discussing it here is frowned upon because it's not a HOI4 mod. They're deleting all wars and are turning it into a worse version of TCT.

>>2449512
We did have new information recently though. An angry dev leaked their Git and we learned that the US rework is a mess, that Germany's DEMO is completely unfinished after five years and reuses 1.0 minigames, and the only serious progress they made is in removing all playable content in Africa and making it otl only. It's just comically bad and that's why containment has been breached a lot lately.

>>2449395
>They absolutely can it's just that the Ukraine War is an anomaly due to both sides having no air superiority but a lot of intelligence and precision munitions, which is why you get the trench warfare. Even then both Ukraine and Russia need tanks.
I didn't know EU high command browses here. How is insisting on using obsolete doctrine going for you? How is getting left behind in dust by Chinese bullz going for you?

>>2449432
>Training around drones didn't really exist before early 2026.
Drones have been a thing used for at least 20 years now. Literally being a big Obama meme.
EU high command is just retarded and refuses to innovate.

>>2449532
I mean if you ban all negative news and only get the positives then everything works and there's no need to reform, ever. I think the EU has it figured out, clearly.

>>2449010
me and everyone else in this general are all going to fight for the butler clique btw

>>2449540
Nah we ridin' with Patton in this joint.

>>2449542
i already signed you up to fight for butler thoughie

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>>2449543
Eat lead syndie!

>>2449540
For me it is Ralph Adams Cram and whoever the Knights in Shining Red Armour is

>>2449529
Go and basedface about Chinese drone shows like the rest of the techbros do. People say that fighter jets are outdated because a drone could fly into one. Literally the Saddam Hussein argument.
Mobile warfare will remain and drones just supplement the doctrine.

>>2449600
People have been saying that the tank is outdated since the advent of AT guns if not longer. Saying "X is outdated" is usually just the biggest fucking brainlet take there is. There will always be a need to get from point A to point B with protections against projectiles. People will just invent new ways of doing it or mitigating your firepower advantage.

>>2449606
That is not tank warfare, that is armoured carriers. And the discussion is not about tanks being outdated either, it is about the doctrines. The fact is that ays of large scale tank offensives are over from doctrinal perspective.

>>2449625
Pseudo-intellectual gibberish, you're just as stupid as the countless millions of others that have said similar things over the years and been proven wrong by engineers and tacticians that came up with solutions that your crippled mind can't even envision. It wouldn't be too long ago that you'd say the exact same thing and then reference air power in desert storm or the prevalence of MANPATs if you go back even further in time. Or for that matter, that guided missiles made air power obsolete.

Please don't bother replying, you're either underaged or just someone that posts catchphrases on Reddit and I won't read your shit let alone reply to it.

>infantry too squishy
>armored vehicles too big, easy target
Solution: merge the two. Power armor.

Might do a Trump world conquest next. It's what Lindsey would have wanted.

>>2449753
You're on to something.

>>2449754
Make sure to go all-in on the establishment, patriot.

>>2449540
I'm a Talmadge man myself (the Klan is going to coup him and we're seceding)

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What do you think people raised from birth with an AI overlord on their phone would turn out like?

>>2450023
Probably more well adjusted than most people dealing with neoliberalism. But I guess that's a low bar.