Happy belated 10th anniversary editionPrevious >>2422823——-MODDING RESOURCES———>bit dot ly 3GPdwPDGeneral Index of tutorials for photoshop, GFX, scripting, etc. This is a google doc, so be aware.>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/ModdingGeneral article hub on modding, also has a lot of info in general on all pages.>Text Editors/Codinghttps://notepad-plus-plus.org/https://www.sublimetext.com/https://code.visualstudio.com/Programs to write out proper syntax for code/scripting. Try to keep everything centralized in one program if possible; experiment and decide which one is right for you.>https://github.com/Where 95% of HOI modders nowadays put mods alongside the steam workshop
———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———>Player Led Peace ConferencesEffectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944>ToolpackGives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560>Better AISwaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283>Industrial ExpansionAdds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501———NOTABLE OVERHAUL MODS———Pic related, too big for 2000 character limit
Any TFR submod features the Save Europe Act?https://www.save-europe-act.com/This is mod relevant as it is part of the European migrant crisis which is underdeveloped in TFR.
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In this general, Grisha is a hero end of story
>League of the South Confederate States>League of the South United under the Klan AmericaCan't decide what is cooler. I'm leaning Klan for the sheer scope of it but wasting Federal columns in the Appalachians perpetually sounds awesome. I really want to see what the events mod team has for a Klan controlled LA, New York, Chicago and other such funky areas.
>>2434762Klan all the way baby, got a whole Moonman playlist prepped for the occasion.
what am I in for?
Turns out Otto was originally going to play the UK, it was a different roster that they did prep games on.But last minute they switched everything up and he went Germany.Without any preparation.
>>2434820Suffering.>>2434821Sounds like a cope for the fuckup.
>>2434822>Sounds like a cope for the fuckup.MG talked about it during the stream as well, he practiced for a completely different strategy.Then they told him to switch it up.Also it's not really cope as it was still their fault for not sticking to the plan.
>>2434824Still a cope. Guy can't do rookie shit and even lost to skeleton AIs like in Greece. And he's presenting it as an excuse. Hard copium.
grisha won again?
>>2434822I'll hold you to that promise, so far it isn't very hardNORBAT deathmogged both the Ron DeSantis and Adam Waffles
>TNO purges its Russia leads >Installs a radical reworker to replace them>Part of a team that openly wants to destroy all traces of old TNOQuite ominous to mark the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa with a brutal assault on their version of the country.
>>2434861Neoliberals taking over something and then openly hating those that originally were there and want to see it all torn down and replaced with their misguided idea of a sterile utopia really is a whole other level of political LARPing.
>>2434821But the roster and ruleset was annoucned 5 days before the actual game was played. Why didn't he complain about that during stream?I do agree that having an England player would have been better than a Poland player though.
>>2434830And it was a bigger meme than last time.
>>2434916>But the roster and ruleset was annoucned 5 days before the actual game was playedTHEY made the roster.When asked why he went Germany, despite having 0 practice on it, he just said "For fun."
>>2434939>Muh 0 practiceThat's wrong. He's made several videos on Germany. Even if we assume for the sake of argument that he only bullshitted it for narrative reasons since that's his shtick, it's literally impossible for him to not at least have some understanding of Germany since he must've spent several hours on the tag just getting footage for his videos. Guy should've known better but just refused to learn.
it was funquite easy, you get a lot of buffs and extra high quality divs for just 50ppcan't wait for post-unification contentworld conquest soon, fellow peace keepers
>>2434916>having an England player would have been better than a Poland playerHow? The UK can't make divisions, edit or create new templates.They're handicapped in several ways that don't go away after the 1EW and if they lost like they did in the match then UK would have become a puppet of the EU.Atleast Poland can do something and has a decent economy.
>>2434987With Poland you are kind of building for Russia as Russia ends up with Eastern Poland. With the EU path everyone gets annexed or becomes a puppet of Germany anyway.The national spirit for England can be removed, worst case via editing the save game.My point is that a country outside of Poland could have been better. They would have lost regardless though.
>>2434984Good job, anon.Tonally, how are they? Are they played as straight neolibs or are they memeing on them?
>>2435008they are generally portrayed positively in their own focuses, you're there to stop La Raza and Attomwaffen and later you get into a fight with the Federal Government after they carpet bomb Atlanta to ruinafter you unify Florida a rogue Attomwaffen militant assassinates Guterres and Amira Mohammed is appointed interim General-Secretary, from then on you have to manage the balance of power between the Doves and the Eagles: prioritizing civilian initiatives and administration will drag you towards the Doves prioritizing the UN Army will give more power to the EaglesEagles are the memeir faction, you have a neocon, two unelected technocrats and peacekeeper stratocracythe Doves are have a progressive, two neolibs and a True Globalist(I'm assuming this guy is the Dove world conquest route)
>>2435050That's very interesting! Thanks anon. Nice story and I like the final people. If it's good I could see TFR integrating it as a game rule/optional thing to their own thing. Nice seeing that the mod released and is alright! Will definitely try it someday!
>>2435050>>2435008>>2435072I haven't played the mod but I feel like it's not what I want to see. They should have played up the dramatic aspect to draw comparisons between how us looks down and mutilates third world countries and how un starts to treat them the same way. It's also one of the times where it would be acceptable to add TFE style sex torture events since there's a precedent for that irl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_by_UN_peacekeepers
>>2435135072 here. I feel you. That'd be good for an alternate run, perhaps if you don't cap the AWD fast enough or pick a certain leader you get an outcome closer to Heart of Darkness, except it keeps getting worse. Your ideals destroyed by the reality on the ground.I think that could provide what we both want without destroying the nice, wholesome and seemingly pretty good route.
>>2435050any references to this meme?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpQveRzD3sQ
>>2435135>I haven't played the mod butopinion discarded thenyou can sweep things under the rug or crack down on ithaven't found any rape though, sorry
WHY DID TRUMP KEK OUT IN OTL XDDDI LITERALLY CAN'T COPE I WAS READY TO FLY OVER TO THE US AND DIE FOR TRUMP NIGGER I WAS READY TO FUCKING DIE FOR TRUMP IN A CIVIL WAR WHY IS OTL TRUMP SUCH A FUCKING RETARDED ISRAEL SHILLPath for this feel?
>>2435296What were you trying to prove by sending this screenshot? It doesn't make me feel anything
>>2435301Maybe Sons of Liberty lolberts when 1.1 comes out.Definitely boogaloo boys
>>2435301Least mindbroken by the culture war thirdie.
>>2435135>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_by_UN_peacekeepers>"An Associated Press (AP) investigation revealed in 2017 that "at least 134 Sri Lankan peacekeepers" from the UN were involved in a child sex ring in Haiti over a 10-year period and that although 114 of them were sent home, none were charged for the crimes"SAAAAAAARS
>>2435331I AM CENTRAL EUROPEAN ROMANIA IS CENTRAL EUROPEAN
KKK unification should have Moonman songs.
>>2434984I need some hopepills, too much cynicism corrodes the soul
>>2434984>can't wait for post-unification content>world conquest soon, fellow peace keepersYou can play that right now.
At least one Patriot Front/Sons of Liberty soldier will take the larps too far during the 2ACW and use a musket during combat.
>>2435564I should be able to build them.
>>2435301This post reminded me that 2016 was a decade ago
>>2435611oldsnake.gif was 18 years ago
>>2435611We are closer to 2030 than COVID.I want to fucking kill myself.
Babe wake up, Segl just dropped Gunther vs Grisha war analysis>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYQ8SePIK38
>>2435623Segl is a real Prvssian.
What do you think it would be like to live in an AI-run digital commune?
>>2435643entire streets of 50 story commie blocksforced urbanizationbut, at least healthcare is free
>>2435623Interesting. Apparently there is some bad blood between this and the previous roster. Segl is completely right to be mad in this case. No one on this roster was as good as him in terms of micro or macro, and yet they, some of them, at least, shit talked him and/or the other players in the previous roster. I wonder if this bad blood is the reason the actual pro players didn't return.
>>2435643I can't decide whether the creep factor of having an AI micromanage my life 24/7 would outweigh the cool factor of being in what would have been until-then a sci-fi world. Probably the former, I hate being watched.
>>2435662Maybe having a sufficiently pliant AI waifu outweighs the cons of having essentially no freedom.
>>2435665>AI overlord>pliantI doubt it. If it appeared pliant it would just be a psychological trick to get you to do what it wants.
>>2435662So long as I can ask Loji to hook me up with the person she calculates to be statistically most likely to fuck me if I ask, she can brain scan me and watch us fuck all she wants.
>the Greek AI was the biggest threat to GrishaMaybe we give the HOI4 AI too much shit. Maybe we need to accept the AI is as bad as it is because most people that play this game are braindead and if it were smart they wouldn't be able to beat the game.
>>2435667Why not? People would notice if it went Skynet on your ass.
There should be a mechanic for the BLA where your funds keep getting stolen by BLM to buy mansions.
>>2435703Two can play that game faggot. I propose post-civil war Trump America be puppetted by Israel.
>>2435703That'd best be represented by a natspirit that sucks away some money and pp until you deal with it. Also isn't BLM more of a RR or the commie Black Panthers thing? BLA would probably cave their skulls in and act like as African warlords.
>>2435656>Apparently there is some bad blood between this and the previous roster.Segl says so in the first 30 seconds.Some of the people on the 2nd roster were criticizing the 1st roster for not building air or defending ports, then the 2nd roster proceeded to make obvious fuck ups just the same.
>>2435706>Also isn't BLM more of a RR or the commie Black Panthers thingonly the unionists and a few apla paths would tolerate them realistically
>>2435707Second roster was arguably worse so them talking shit before is just asking for ridicule.
>>2435707I just don't get why the 2nd roster neither put their fleets in the Baltic not did they guard the ports there. They even left fucking Kaliningrad open.You don't have to focus on navy but at least put your starting navy there to not get naval invaded.
Even though they're a long since defunct group it'd be cool if the Black Legion was a minor faction in the LOS.
>>2435705Unironically yes, if Trump gets in bed with the bureaucrats and does some other shit their should be a coupe path where globalists take over the movement and simply skin suit as nationalists.
>>2435721Literally just Otto putting his starting navy on patrol could've cockblocked the naval invasion that raped him or at least given Grisha's forces a bloody lip as they landed there. It'd be something at least. If you listed to Otto's stream you can also hear them talk about obvious things like guarding ports and then fucking nothing happened.
>>2435721>>2435726Better. If Otto put his Navy on convoy raid he could have obliterated an entire russian army group before they landed.
>>2435725>if Trump gets in bed with the bureaucrats and does some other shit their should be a coupe path where globalists take over the movement and simply skin suit as nationalistsThat would be crazyI hope that doesn’t happenHypothetically speaking
first time opening TFR since the new dlc dropped last week.I load a new game and it crashes. Do I reinstall TFR?
>>2435743Do you have the new dlc enabled? If so, disable it. Also, try rolling back your hoi4 to the previous version, I don’t think TFR has updated yet
>>2435745Yeah I tried with TAOG enabled and disabled. I'm reinstalling anyway. Probably going to roll back as well.
>>2435732True but I'm more saying that even the most minimal safety measures could've greatly imporved the situation. Just getting caught off guard like a bum having the navy out there practicing would've been a major improvement because at least those attrited 20% org ships would've fired a few shots at the landing forces.I personally think Otto should've been more humble, admitted before the match that he wouldn't be a good player, and just joined another streamer to provide color commentary or doing his own. Him being a lore nerd could've provided some interesting in-universe perspective on events. Instead he talked big, stepped up to a challenge that was completely out of his league and now he's going to have to deal with the ridicule for a long time.
>>2435734
>>2435750Why was Otto even fumbling so hard? The 1st roster had an excuse with not knowing the mod but he did.
>>2435750Otto isn't a big guy, but he's sure dug himself a big hole in the ground early into his youtube venture.In a couple short years he has pretty much earned lolcow status in the community.He soiled good will with the TFR team on purpose because he's a lazy schmuck. He gets casted TWICE into a game he has little experience in and doesn't reject the role. He expects to get carried and now the guys who were on his team probably won't play with him again.He built an audience of detractors out of people who didn't harbor any ill-will with him before hand.The breakdown he had after losing to Grisha just cemented him as a charlatan.HOI4 Jschlatt pretends to have dad energy while he burns all his bridges before they could be built.
>>2435745>I don’t think TFR has updated yetThey haven't, wonder if the patch update will just include the combat overhaul or if there'll be some new stuff added as well with how long the patch is taking.
>>2435758The entirety of his pre-game training was on the Yookay, he was moved to Germany last-minute for reasons. He’s played TFR Germany many times before, so really he’s just shit at MP.
>>2435758He's genuinely assI wonder how he managed to do an atomwaffen playthrough. He uses the shit out of console in his runs. I decided to check out his og gunther stream, jumped to a random point and AI was encricling him
>>2435758He's not really a comp MP player so it doesn't matter that he knew the mod because he didn't know how to use what he knew.
>>2435772He was also using leg infantry and out of fuel if memory serves me right
>>2435777First game apperantly he was forced by other players and he was too pussy to tell them no. His industry was ass through, who builds mils day one. Second game he totally fumbled army building, he had like 24 divs. Also ass industry, again
>>2435781>who builds mils day oneIf you’re starting in a war or going to war like 2 years in.But NATO has 6 years to burn, wtf was Otto thinking
>>2435772He also had an infamous meltdown in his second Gunther stream because he failed the Judas minigame and was getting pushed back by the AI.
>>2435788Was this what you were talking about?https://youtu.be/JU-uibtPQKshttps://youtu.be/21BY6xDpKsU
>>2435788>failed the Judas minigameHe was playing as Cog?
>>2435777>using leg infantryThe devs themselves literally tell you not to do this IN A FUCKING POPUP SCREEN how is he that retarded
>>2435794As line filler I guess? They’re basically tissue paper so it’s not even good line filler.
>>2435792Holy shit that crashout is legendary.
>>2435792Yes these>>2435793Yeah and he started seething about the minigame was too hard because he had to read a few lines
>look at portrait folder>Australia
>I have won against the AI using console commands, that means I am ready to play against a pro player
>>2435799Lmao, what a dumbass. Would have been funny if he failed to stop the Judas in time and got the failstate ending.
So what is the new tfr update including concerning special projects? Does someone have the teasers? I remember the mechs and stuff but what about drones, general missiles, ICBMs, nukes, chemical attacks and other warcrimes? Though bombing Berlin, Paris and London with T-160s is kino it seems wrong to not also be spamming oreshniks in this hyperwar for some Polish swamp village.
>>2435792>>2435793>>2435799>>2435802>failing Judas minigame>BEFORE EVEN BEATING THE CWWow. I didn't know it was this possible to be so incompetent.I can beat the entire 2 Cognoscenti CWs and Judas minigame by the time the 1EW starts and that isn't even the fastest you can beat it.
>>2435799judas minigame is garbage tho
>>2435803leaked a while back
>>2435800Plz don't spoil the Anprim Australia path where a Koala takes over. It's going to be one of the best paths in the mod alongside the Abowaffen Division.
>>2435807Judas minigame is kino.
>>2435795I'm not not a comp player so don't quote me, but in my experience in TFR, you can't really use the meatwall inf + armored spearhead blitzkrieg larp like you can in vanilla (indeed it's meta in vanilla) in TFR. Mech and tanks cut through infantry like butter which means you really need every division to be mechanized. I guess you could make a pile of mechanized and still concentrate your tanks in a few divisions; I prefer to spread my tanks through every division because that makes them beat any pure mech division (ie most of them).
>>2435792Thanks a lot I just died of cringe
>>2435809Thank you very much anon, that shit looks awesome. Though it's fucked because of the death and stuff the development of weapons systems over the next ten years is gonna be so cool.
>>2435813There are niche scenarios like guarding Murmansk or the Caucasus where infantry divisions are more viable. However he built infantry divisions against Russian divisions that had more SPGs in them than IFVs.The AI is bad enough that you can probably still get away with putting line infantry on the frontline if you have decent enough CAS but against players it is suicide.
>>2435803You can literally do the scientifally feasible.
>>2435759Good summary. All just a bunch of unforced errors really. Like I said if he'd just been a little humble, avoided streaming (especially drunk), avoided political drama and quit the TFR team while maintaining ties with the team all would be well. But like you said he's become a lolcow. It's not terminal, he can turn that around, but I think his ego is too big.
>>2435841>avoided political dramaIs he a chud or libtard?
>>2435848Decisively leans libtard. Made an entire video begging people in Alabama not to vote for this one guy because he’s too racist (and also has very sketchy finance history but most of the runtime is dedicated to his racism)https://youtu.be/N5QWf-kU0zQ
>>2435848It's more just shit like him trying to bring on controversial political figures for attention. There might've been more that I'm just not aware about but to be charitable it might've been a YouTube click gambit that had bad long term consequences.
>>2435851Of course he is a libtard. I just know the GOAT segl who doesn't get invovled in drama is a chud.
>German cucks didn't come to my defenseFuck the Kaiser, once I'm done turtleing I'll take the fight to the Brits and show the Krauts how it's done.
>>2435792You know, in the previous thread I joked that if team nato had a US player he'd go cognoscenti and get his shit pushed by VenezuelaApperantly the more realistic outcome is that he doesn't even get that far>>2435794There are a few edge cases (2acw, coast guard in GAW, emergency linefiller in post defeat russia) but generally yes>>2435786He actually built a couple of civs first but switched to milsOther players didn't even do thatAre we sure those guys are pro cause that shit doesn't really fly in vanillaOh, and Europe has a spirit against mil construction early game>>2435813>I guess you could make a pile of mechanized and still concentrate your tanks in a few divisions;I tend to do thatLinefiller with ifvs/apc and breakthrough tank divs, which are especially helpful because of scripted peace dealsI once tried adding light tanks into my linefiller but couldn't keep up with the demand despite having industry larger than ChinaI also like shitting out an ungodly amount of divisions so taht might be on me as well desu
>>2435176NAYRT but since I'm playing it... yup. This is probably the best event in the mod so far.
Anon who was playing UN earlier, why didn't you post this gem from the focus tree?
I hate the antichrist.
Wouldn't happen in a million years, but I'd kill for playable Ireland content in TFR. Hopefully they at least get more skeleton content in 1.3, them being able to link up with the Scots to fight the English during the British civil war would be cool.
Just went through the UN submod folder... there's an easter egg in the mod anon didnt find earlier.
>>2435909for me it's the gigapeacekeeper
also the girls
>>2435882I use 48 width bricks. 2 tank bats per division.
>>2435928For lineholder it's 4 ifvs/apcs with support companiesTFR crashes when I try to load so I can't check teh tank division but I belive they're like 40 or somehwere around that? I also tried Grisha's template in one of my games, worked wonders. I do try to keep a wide array of templates and equipment
>>2435941In MP you do need dedicated templates but I can't be assed with that in SP. I just have>Line>Marine>AirborneI don't bother with a port garrison template because if I don't need to do it (like I've sunk their navy or they don't have one) then I want to be able to send those troops to the front instead of having them sit around.
>The Satanic Temple's HQ is in Massachusetts. If the American Iron Front ever gets content they'd make a great path, their wholesome chungus reddit satanism would fit right in there. For fun factor you could also include a hidden path where they become genuine satanists doing sacrifices, defiling churches, and engaging in general debachery and sadism, but set them apart from O9A by not making them Nazis.
>>2435882>Are we sure those guys are pro cause that shit doesn't really fly in vanillaMaybe they thought Putin would invade in 2022 like in OTL.
>>2435980That implies they've never played the mod or they'd know he fucking dies right before the invasion is supposed to happen.
>>2435989That was unironically the case though. Some players in the 1st roster were genuinely worried about the SMO focus and thought Putin could invade early.
Schizo theory:Nayf, Dankus and/or Segl were going to return for the 2nd game, but Otto and/or some other players on the 2nd team shit talked them, so they quitted in protest. To me, that explains why Otto was suddenly moved from Ukraine to Germany, and MG's build had to change last minute. And I bet my fucking ass, if that were to happen, they would be like>we don't need them>at least we know the mod>we outnumber Grisha, no way he can micro 4 fronts at once with air this timeBeing all smug ass and shit, despite throwing most of their test build into the trash.
When was the last time From Men To Wolves dropped a teaser? Hope the mod isn't dead, leans a little too much into schizo territory imqho (all though I guess with the scenario that's a given). But I think it still looks fun and really want to play it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSLXSOOyW7w
Otto is not a libcuck but....a tankie???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajba0ZOLSDk
>>2436025>Upper end figures say the death toll is over 7 million>Lower end figures that serve as propaganda say the death toll is only 1 million>"GUYS THIS MEANS IT IS FAKE XDDD"So I can just claim the holobunga was only 1 million people and then since the estimates have such a wide range it never happened in the first place?I am so happy this nigger got mogged twice by Grisha.
>Patriot Front is from Texas>starts in New England>National Socialist movement is from Florida>starts in MichiganMake it make sense
>>2436025When will he get a thread of the farms?
>>2436025>He killed a lot of people to industrialize the unionLmao the former Russian Empire was already industrialized. Had the Tsar lived it would have continued to industrialize to OTL WW2 levels anyway since the war demanded it.Can I just take a sidenote to say how this guy is probably pro-Ukraine IRL as all leftcucks seem to be, but he's literally making excuses for the Holodomor?
>>2436025Dude unironically sounds like a betacuck version of Socialism4All now that I think about it. If you're gonna defend Stalin at least do it in a well-spoken manner with a smooth voice.
>>2436041Number of people who died in the camps was about 250k, largely from typhus (ironically enough), and in the final stage of the war, from starvation due to utterly destroyed and bombed out supply linesNumber of people put to death in homicidal gas chambers using delousing agents was zero, didn't happenHope this helps
>>2436061Shut up Burt you just want to be able to say you outdid Hitler
>>2436061Path for this feel?
>>2436065
>>2435792Kek, that's fucking hilarious.
>>2436046>serious answerFrankly, never. The existing HOI4 thread is enough to contain anything regarding him since he’s small enough, and he really isn’t incendiary enough to warrant a whole thread dedicated to himself.
>>2435905>>2435909>>2435918>>2435920These are all fantastic.
>>2436004That's not schizo at all. Segl at least complained about the shit talking several times and we know there are some big egos involved. I don't remember when the rosters were originally announced and this may contradict you slightly and have offered them more prep time but the timeline you present is very plausible.
>>2436054I really do hate that argument so much. Stalin definitely did incredible leaps and bounds to FURTHER industrialize the nation that much and that fast but people genuinely act like the Russian Empire under Nicholas was a fucking Monty Python sketch where the largest economic factor were mudpies. The Great War and the Russian Civil War, along with all the other garnets on the cloak of war such as famine, did far more to "reset" Russian industrial progression then any of the Tsar's minister's flailing. Stalin had to not only rebuild after those wars he had to make up for the lost time spent fighting them. The conversation becomes particularly awful when you realise the person making the point that "The Empire was a feudal backwater with no industry" has no idea who Witte, Stolypin or Alexander III are.
>>2436014A guy who I know from another project is a FMTW dev and he screenshared a build for me a couple weeks ago. What I saw looked solid in that nations on the map were filled out and portraits + natspirits were present. They are trying to finish a Central Asia Warlord demo. I would expect it and Judgment Day to launch sometime this year, if they can't meet that goal and 2027 hits idk if it'll ever come out.
>>2436141nayrt but I really hope we see something playable from it eventually. I'd love to see their world map.
>>2436144The map was cool except for India which looked like it was covered in Tumors (if i remember right it was like a bunch of British owned bits of India joined in a confederation around pakistan and North-West India but because there were like 16 of them it looked butt ugly) Idk if they've teased that or not.
>>2436146Never seen it + sounds fun.
>>2436078ideological background checks focus featuring detective Doakes
>>2436207Very soulful. These guys are on point.
>>2435912what are you referring to?GDI? Super Earth?
>>2436230Lmao
TNO keeps advancing in the new race to 600K. At this rate, they'll definitely hit 600K in July.
>>2436081Here's the Italian player on the roster. We don't know who is the original Italian player who Grisha mandated was, but my schizo theory is that it was going to be Segl, mostly because of how salty he was in the video. Also funny that Grisha picked MG for Poland, because he was the only one who was kind of competent in th 1EW.I would also take this post with a pinch of salt, because it looks like the EU team gave up way too many concessions to Grisha for this to be a fair negotiate as both sides had put it before the game. That or they are not only shit at playing the game, they are also completely retarded in diplomacy as well.
>>2436261He also sounded very authoritative about the decision of not allowing the French player returning. Yes, the French player was bad, but I doubt he's one of the organizers of the event, so big ego for context.
can i buy the base game and creampie the DLC? which one should i look into as a beginner to grand strategy?
>>2436042It's for balance and PF being in NE is W larps as well.
>>2436042>Trump is from New York>Starts in ColoradoThe country imploding has a tendency to stir things up.
>>2436277>>can i buy the base game and creampie the DLC?>that's the optimal way to enjoy the paradox gamesEvery single nu-Paradox Game hit some inflection point where the game became ruined and bloated by an unending stream of retarded DLCUnironically skip the DLC and just learn the base game and then later decide to add specific DLC on an à la carte basis, judiciouslyBad advice for a new player
>>2436254Humiliation ritual. This is stupid but it is somewhat funny that ever since their popularity collapsed they started to bitch about popularity not mattering and that true art goes underappreciated as a cope.>>2436293True, most of it's bloat or garbage.>>2436276It's also to motivate them to travel further to get more latinxx booty. They'd get complacent if they started in Texas.
>>2435724>the Black LegionWhy would Abaddon the Despoiler join the South?
>>2436312Especially when they're already in Cascadia.
TFR Italy content when
>>2436325With what they showed in the skeleton I can't help but be a bit hyped for Italy, ngl
>>2436325most likely in 1.3
>>2436330Anime will save Italy.
>>2436207HOLY BASED
Anyone find it odd that nobody has done a Command and Conquer mod? Not just talking about a published one, I mean even toozerslop wise, I can't find anything.
>>2436379There was a Tiberium timeline one but I don't think it really went anywhere. Another Tiberium one ended up being dead in the water. A dev colleague of mine wanted to make a Red Alert one, but he joined TFR instead. Which to be fair is the closest we have to a Red Alert mod right now so he's fulfilling his dreams that way.
>>2436261The GOD SEGL would have returned to burn the muscovite tanks in the steppes of Eastern Ukraine but Otto had a melti.
>>2436261There's still no excuse for the lack of prep and total disregard for basic gameplay.
>>2436230Yeah he didn't find the post-Catharsis Super Earth easter egg
>>2436042North east is very white and has a decent republican population, you just wouldn't knwo because it's gerrymendered>>2436266I find it funny that the two people doing the shittalking, fumichev and otto, were the worst players
>>2436437>gerrymenderedI just remembered that this was a thing. Democracy is the most retarded system of all.
>>2436437There's also some events about the PF protecting businesses in the area improving their PR so it's not the most outlandish thing ever that they establish a foothold in the NE when the 2ACW starts.
>>2436440What? You don't like districts shaped like snakes? That's totally normal.
>>2436254>They lost over a hundred in a single dayIt's never been more TNOver
>>2436440We had to bomb democracy to save democracy
>>2436254It's 600,181 now
>>2436487Leads ran out of welfare money and can't pad the numbers by buying more copies of HOI4 any more, grim.
>>2436254>I was one of the people who unsubbed
>>2436519And I'm doing my part to help TNO finally hit the big 600K. Only 178 left to go.
>>2436530>TNO race to 600k>new update drops>fiji skeleton content
>>2436571Anon, they actually want that.
>>2436577Is they in the room with us?
>>2436580No, they never venture outside of their Reddit and Discord server.
>>2436452That, and once heads are being counted and ethnic violence rises White racial consciousness risesWhich might be the most unrealistic part, nimby centrists actually recognizing a problem staring them in the face
>>2436628This. Not gonna fedpost today but there is more than enough reason for collective fedposting in most Western countries.
>>2436628>250K rapes>Anglos shrug their shoulders, worried not to make a fussYou might be on to something.
>>2436656That's the low estimate. It's unironically worse than the holobunga since the chosen people had several of the most powerful armies in the world fighting for them.Who was fighting for all these girls? The very authorities that were supposed to protect them did too little, outright ignored it, covered it up or in the worst cases actively participated.I read one case and I don't need to read beyond that. Genuinely disturbed me how that one girl was failed by the authorities on every single occasion. It was just one of the countless cases. Can't imagine how terrible it must be to go through that. Fiction writers struggle to come up with comparable horrors.The death penalty for everyone guilty in these cases is not enough.
>>2436437Cmon man be for real. It's like tiny fringe parts of Maine and NH that are anywhere close to PF. The Republicans in New England aren't secretly fascists they are Republican because they are business owner and want their taxes slashed. The mayor of Boston is Michelle Wu. They're all economically republican and socially dem, this is not the PF's base. Saying NE isn't all republican because of gerrymandering is pure cope.
>>2436668>the chosen people had several of the most powerful armies in the world fighting for them.Yeah including the Reich.
>>2436703How fitting, then, that they start out with a small cadre in one city and expand from there using military force.>But things are different Hey you know what else is different from real life? The federal government ceasing to exist and the economy dying.
Finished TNOR's Berhinki Alexei route or whatever it's called. Here are some thought and suggestions:There were some typos and some interface problems but nothing major.Except that WRRF would for some reason did not even have divisions on my undefended border and seem to have put them all on coastal defense.Most unifiers should be able to recruit generals from defeated enemies like this one, and arguably you should be able to get more of them. I should have been able to get Zhukov, Chuikov, Vatutin and so on. This should be expanded so you can get them from all Russian states. I imagine most of the defeated communist ones would flock to Batov for example.Speaking of, "latest" features like aircraft designer, doctrines and HQ's should be a priority for implementation.There should be a couple of years content for rebuilding and preparing post unification. This one felt like it had none of that. Just straight into Kazakhstan, then straight into Vladivostok, then straight into Manchuria, then straight into Moskowien. Also the 2WRW tree was too small.Most unifiers should have their own version of OGAS since it's so good. With obvious exceptions like SBA and MenMagnitorsk and Dirlewanger should be buffed. All of these years I have not seen them win once.Buck broken Speer should still be able to have at the very least over have over 250 divisions. He is very weak compared to Bormann.Bring back Nowa Polska.Concessions for Hungary, Norway and Romania should be way costlier in terms of money and debuffs.Give me a one time -10% tension decision There should be way more events for capturing cities.Finland should be able to enter the 2WRW to regain Karelia.There should be proper uprisings during 2WRW, with proper tags. Like Karelia, whoever won in Ukraine, Poland one you have sufficiently penetrated into Ukraine, Serbia/Yugoslavia's Tito or Chetniks, Norway, Red Poppy if they didn't capitulate to Germany and so on.
>>2436796Good suggestions. Hope the devs read this. I know that some of these have been in the cards for a while but they're slowly chipping away at them and new tags it seems.
Is there an application to automatically create flag files
>>2436330>image of Mari Ohara, who is not italian, related to italians or a proponent of traditional families (on account of being a lesbian)
>>2436668>that one girl"Chloe"? Yeah, that one was fucked up. Still, after getting failed so consistently by the authorities, you'd think she'd try to get to people like Farage or Lowe or even Tommy Robinson or Carl Benjamin directly.
>>2436888 (Me)Nevermind, Mari's father is italian-american. Still, there have to be better examples of fictional italians not copyrighted by Nintendo.
What's up with /gsg/ thread? Is that what schizophrenia looks like?
>>2437013Explain.
>>2436733>Yeah including the Reich.You’re dumb. Fighting and losing is not the same thing as secretly jobbing for the other side.>inb4 BUT HITLER WAS SECRETLY JEWISH AND A ROTHSCHILDS AGENT AND GAY AND HAD ONE TESTICLEYou’re Jewish.
Whenever I'm feeling down I remember that someone's life accomplishment is Kalterkrieg
>>2437055I'd prefer being the well-intentional but forgotten author of a dud than living in the perpetual hell that is being a TNO dev. At least this guy isn't a lolcow blacklisted from several major teams. The only people that are mad at him are the ten people that care to remember what old KRG was supposed to look like.
>>2436891>you'd think she'd try to get to people like Farage or Lowe or even Tommy Robinson or Carl Benjamin directly.Didn't she actually go to Rupert Lowe with her case? I don't know exactly how they got her story. Can't really blame her since he got screwed over by the system for over 15 years or so.Just her case alone justifies the execution of hundreds of individuals."Muh didn't want to lose my job." Yeah but you niggers gave random Germans the death sentence at Nuremberg because they didn't risk their lives trying to revolt. If you don't protect children because you could lose your job, then a PQTRIQT government should just expropriate everything you own and give the money to the victims you let down.
How would an early Ukraine War path actually look like? The team has planned for there being a path where Putin survives and invades Ukraine in 2022. Would it just be an isolated war between Russia and Ukraine but without NATO joining directly which then still leads to the European War at around 2026?
>>2437072Hard to say. I'd say volunteer spam that can either create an early partial Novorossiya or completely fuck over the Donbass Republics, and then a major war in the wake of the improved situation. Although it'd be funny if the Russians just had Putin do what they call cuck warfare and just have the whole thing be a string of shitty border wars.
>TNO has less than 100 subs to go before they hit 600K and win the race against themselves
>>2437121how do you fall off so hard
>>2437055desu modding is probably one of the more productive hyperfixations you can get
>>2437122>Delete everything people liked>Replace it with OTL slop and soapboxing>Demonize your fanbase as chuds>Purge all your talented devs>Replace them with your cronies>Exclusively put out skeleton content for years>Rework the entire mod from scratch
>>2437058>Muh didn't want to lose my jobIt was far worse than merely losing a job, they would be called racists. Apparently this is the ultimate insult, and death is preferable to having someone call you a racist.>expropriate everything you ownStarting with their heads because anything less would be a travesty. The UK literally had heads on spikes on the London Bridge for much less.
Will TFR ever be updated with research projects, the new doctrine system and the new division designer?
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>>2437158>research projectsComing in 1.1. >new doctrine systemI believe it's planned but no idea when it'll be added.>new division designerNo idea.
>>2437057Everything is better than being forgotten. Kalterchuds are lucky to fail so badly that they're still remember as a cautionary tale
>>2437164Hard disagree. I'd rather be forgotten than universally reviled. At least then I could start fresh after learning from my mistakes.
>>2437170You can always start fresh by making a new account. What you cannot do is get the same negative attention back without putting in effort
JULY QTH.TRUST THE PLQN.PQTRIQTS STQY REQDY.
>>2437172Thanks for agreeing with me. Yes, you can start over by making a new account, something you can't do if you've become a proper fucking lolcow like the TNO nu-leads because you'll be found out by one of the thousands of people that hate you soon enough.
>>2437176PQTRIQT REPORTINGI CQN'T FVCKING WQITTRUSTING THE PLQNJULY QTH IS THE DAYQ
Hey guys.I got sent here by someone who's apparently a well known regular here and he asked me to send this message.>Idea guy lives, he just got permabanned by the jannies and left for altchans, he asked me to tell you that he misses you quite a lot and would like to meet up on any chan you'd like.He told me to post pic related as proof.I got four pics from him so i will be sure to post them all.
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>>2437224>>2437225>>2437227>>2437229>Idea guyHoly shit when was the last time he posted? Also why the hell was he permabanned?
>>2437224>he just got permabannedSTATIC IP NIGGERS BTFO
>>2437230As far as I know you have to repeatedly get banned with somehwat severe offenses like ban evasions or botting. Doxxing or posting highly illegal content can get you permabanned right away as far as I know.However since 4chan doesn't work via accounts, you could hypothetically speaking bypass bans quite easily. Of course that would be a rule violation so don't do it :^)
>>2437019It was ragebait.
>>2437236>Doxxing> can get you permabanned right awayinsanely gay especially if it's one time.>ban evasionsDude I browse almost 8 boards and ban evaders are not even banned on half of them.Ban evading can't even be proven with certain proxies and I've stumbled onto other anon's bans many times before, usually for extremely benign shit. Like for ex. the /vg/ and /vt/ mods extensively ban anons for posting singular sentences but will leave literal schizos to spam in containment threads. Kind of like how the gore poster exists here and consistently fucks up the thread with /pol/shit and no one stops him, or the Barney schizo who posts pony shit and replies to himself with Barney image spam macros.
>>2437224Hey good to know he's alive at least.
>>2437275>Ban evading can't even be proven with certain proxiesYou can literally just delete all cookies and restart your router lmao.
>>2437287>Idea Guy does that >His first post starts with "idea Guy here I just had the idea to delete my cookies and restart my router to evade my ban">Is instantly permabanned again
>>2437224The most autistic man on /vst/, everybody.
I am working on a mod that swaps out leader portraits and names with stuff I like. Bit of an exercise to learn how to mod. Maybe I'll try updating a focus tree next.
>>2437336>The kind of shit people would unironically upload to the workshop in 2017At least Starship Troopers is a good movie so I can't complain too much.
>>2437344ERM MEDIA LITERACY, CHUD?
>>2437336What is Hirohito thinking here?
>>2437378You mean knowing that Starship Troopers and Falling Down are great films? Yeah I'm very literate.
>>2437230>>2437232>>2437236Here's his reply to these posts.
>>2437408Fucking autistic manchild.
I don't miss him
>>2437408Rangeban is fucked because he could be completely innocent. However if he is then resetting the router could work if he has dynamic IP. Though the heckin' jannies would probably consider that ban evasion. You could also appeal the ban.
>>2437414He's too fucking spergy to appeal.
my beautiful gator queenanyway does anyone know a good way to view dds files im new to this scene
>>2437414If posting in this thread is that important that he has to send another guy here, can't he just go to the local coffee shop and post from their wifi. He shouldn't do that doe cuz that's ban evasion o algo.
>>2437438>Idea Guy >Going outside Are you retarded
>>2437423Has the East Coast submod dropped that big update yet? I wanna conquer NYC as Eden's Enclave.
>>2437451it should drop on the 30th
>>2437344>Starship Troopers was a good movieI liked it, but it had issues. I read somewhere that the government was not fighting the bug war to win, and after watching the movie I'm starting to think they were right.
>>2437494The movie is a very poor adaptation of the book and there are a lot of elements in it that will come off as iffy if you look at it from a purely ideological perspective. iirc the guy that made it didn't like the source material. But it's still a very fun movie, at least the first one. I don't think it comes off as being as propagandistic as some of its detractors say either. The people responsible for the failed invasion take responsibility for their actions and get reprimanded for one is something I've never seen in my life.
Which path in TFR fits Senator Armstrong's ideology the most? The Absolute Individualists in Cascadia? The Minarchists or Ancaps in SOL?
>League of the SouthDo you think they will rework the South's starting setup with the update? Like making the LOS and KKK unified? It would be odd if the Southern Nationalist group was entirely limited to Arkansas, unless they are just going to represent their influence as a resistance/collaborator mechanic which would be kind of meh.
>>2437516Trump Libertarians is my first answer.
>>2437517I doubt it and I think the KKK being initally split off works better. Gives you an incentive to try and conquer the South as fast as possible so you can get to them before they're killed and reward you in doing so with additional divisions and manpower. Only downside would be the KKK gaining a major influence boost in the faction which would only be a problem if you don't intend on going down their path.
>>2437517>Do you think they will rework the South's starting setup with the update?they have>LOS and KKK unifiedthey unify later on
>>2437519I don't know. Trumps Libertarians are on the more milquetoast side of things. Armstrong believes in absolute liberty for the individual believing people should be able to do whatever they want, but also survival in the fittest thinking the weak should be purged so the strong are fit to do as they please without the weak holding them back.
>>2437517the LoS doesn't start with all of Arkansas anymore
>>2437516Libertarian Trump. He even shouts MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN in a cutscene. Though might be a different one since he's a bit more MIC-pilled than lolbert Trump might be.
>>2437522>survival in the fittest thinking the weak should be purged so the strong are fit to do as they please without the weak holding them back>the strong decide to protect the weakArmstrong was both right and wrong.
Is there an hoi4 mod with good Italy content?
>>2437573Even Raiden acknowledges this in the final boss theme and the ending. Game literally ends with him waging his own war for a cause he believes in, literally practicing what Armstrong preached.
>>2437577What mods have you played? Are you new to HOI4?
I played KR and KX, pretty good content even tho the second a bit sloppy and memey, TNO Italy at release was pretty good too but now it's basically out of place and has a rework in dev he'll for 5 years. Red world Italy is actually really good and has path for basically every larp. Millennium dawn is... Well... Not good. TWR is incomplete and unplayable. The Japanese axis victory mod which I don't remember the name is a bit sloppy but fun anyways and it gets you to conquer Europe. I don't what other mods have good Italy content other than those I already played
>>2437613This guy's a real Italy conneisseur.
>>2437613I KNEEL.
>>2437497>iirc the guy that made it didn't like the source materialVerhoeven. Who notably got triggered and stopped reading Starship Troopers at chapter 2 and decided to assume it was a fascist novel (since he was a kid when the Netherlands were occupied by the Nazis) and not one written by a libertarian, and thus decided to make a seething parody of it where the Mobile Infantry die en masse instead of dropping tacnukes on bugs and blitzing across the surface of planets.
>TNO is less than 20 subscribers from reaching 600k
>>2437638>Spend 6 years trying to reach this number >Get surpassed before the finish line by a mod you relentlessly attacked and seethed over >Limp over the finish line after everyone left>Fall below this anyway >Declare that true art isn't popular anyway
Is this still winnable? Just less than 2 years ago we held all of North Africa, all of western and central Europe and now it's just me. Soviet Union declared on the Allies and I have 0 manpower and no steel
>>2437643Nvm I do have manpower, I was on volunteer all game
>>2437643looks fucked to me I would never play that long just to lose after 1945.
>>2437643>American Japan>In Italy
>>2437645We were winning tremendously before everything suddenly collapsed, otherwise I wouldn't have played past 1945 either
>>2437648Anyways, I was finally capped and I'm now the Third Spanish Republic and Germany became the battleground between the Soviets and Allies.
>>2437643NO SURRENDER, BELIEVE IN THE FINAL VICTORY!!!>>2437649Festung Spanien
>>2437648>We were winning tremendously before everything suddenly collapsedSad! Many such cases
>>2437643You don't play after 1941. If you haven't capped majors early on you should restart and try again before they reach critical mass and accumulate 700 divisions
Is the east coast being added to Old World Blues, i really want to play as the mothman cults
>>2437648>We were winning tremendouslyYou probably did something like build 7-2's or relied on some weak template and didn't build any extra navy or focus air as spain.So you got your early land gains and couldn't defend them when they got naval invaded by the allies and their 600 ships while they wrecked your convoys and bombed you.
>>2437667There's a submod that adds nations to the East Coast, getting a big update soon as well.
>>2437670Oh did the main mod give up on expanding east?
>its over
>>2437672Nah there still expanding the amp eastward. But it's gonna take fucking forever for them to actually reach the East Coast so some people made a submod to add content to region for the meantime. No idea what the actual plan is for when the main mod reaches the East Coast, maybe they'll integrate the submod?
>>2437673OH MOTHER I CAN FEEL THE SOIL FALLING OVER MY HEAD
>>2437679I remember them saying map filler integration is off the table because they have their own plans. (And also because the map filler mods are not the greatest in terms of quality)
>>2437679The fall should be 13 commonwealths not 50 states... fake fan
>>2437673>The TNO jannies frantically buying new copies of HOI4 to inflate the sub count
>>2437670Okay does it have thr mothman cults. Its the only thing I want to play
>>2437689Currently no but I imagine they'll expand down to West Virginia eventually and add a Mothman cult because it's the most obvious thing ever (in a good way).
>>2437693I'll wait on it then, I dont really care much about the east coast in fallout lore, I'mjust obsessed with cryptids. (Though I REALLY like DC in fallout 3, which I understand is pretty controversial)
>Old World Blues>ever reaching the East Coastlollmaoenjoy your new rogue AIs, girlboss donut steels and of course who could forget the wholesome native americans and ghouls.
>>2437709Bro robot city has been in the mod for years now, love that tag. Same with the Mexican shit, good robot content. I'm hoping BIG GRASS gets an update soon as I noticed the tree still hasn't updated
>>2437709We need at least one sentient Deathclaw tag. Mainly so ERX can add a wholesome chungus event chain where they're integrated into the USA ending with a female Deathclaw and human man marriage.
>>2437713Sexclaws
>>2437710>Robot City and MexicoShould have been the only ones and they were pushing it with the Mexican stuff past Santa Anna imo. They literally just repeated the larping computer angle in Canada with the commune.>>2437713This is why the Purists have to win.
Noooo fuck that
>>2437673IT'S TNOVER.
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>>2437716BIG GRASS is epic and based
Segl doesn't look like his voice. It just feels off. Not in an ugly way since he looks completely normal but the voice doesn't fit.
Serve your country by playing HOI4.
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>>2437852The Wanger jab is somewhat funny but most of the comment is just filler and the redditor is trying too hard to make a joke.The left truly can't meme.
>>2437851>Play HOI4 and complete your conscription serviceSo you play the 1EW all the time as a budget wargamer or what does this actually entail? If so then this is pretty based.
Looking at the fire rises, who came up with cascadia in it the lines it split on and the parties are pretty stupid. Feels like someone who knows nothing about Washington make it. Spokane being the capital of a theoretical cascadia and not Bellingham is baffling. Not to mention the eastern side of thr state is veryyl right leaning. A split should basically be the Rockies east and west instead of whatever they have going on.
>*strokes beard*>Allow me to assist you, my lady>*barges in*>*tips Fedora*>No no, allow ME
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>>2437709There is nothing wrong with any of these things
>>2437918Don't bother. That man (he'll never be a woman) is a soulless realismslop seether that never played HOI4 but gets mad whenever something doesn't correlate perfectly with Wikipedia.
>>2437922>Your a tranny if you don't like the 76535th plot about a girlboss or AI trying to get a mcguffin to become all powerful.
>>2437928>a girlboss or AI trying to get a mcguffin to become all powerfulABSOLVTE KINO
>>2437668No way, I went 8-2 , 8 inf and 2 infantry tanks. And my air was up to par. I always ignore navy since its such a hassle.What truly did me in was running behind on gun production which was partly caused by a lack of steel. Looking back, my biggest mistake in the campaign was probably sending out 24 divisions into Egypt where all my guns got attritioned.
>>2437928Yes only fags and trannies hate Loji and her multiverse siblings.
>>2437922>only trannies think the Sisterhood of Steel is stupid and gayWhat kind of upside down world do you live in you retard?>>2437947>comparing Loji to any of the modern owb slopYou need Laogai.
>>2437951>Loji makes Blue Archive real and ChineseBASED?!
How was Flags Unfurled? I gotta go Biden to play as them right?
It's over.
>>2437978Does this confirm that the Race to 600k was cheated on the TNO side?
>>2437978IT'S TNOVER
>>2437978>People literally rushing to unsub from the dead mod
Update for the Total Conversion Spreadsheet.BIGGEST WINNER: The Fire Rises with +13,232>RT56 and KR still growing strong. Good to see the old guard alive.>TNO briefly managed to hit 600K but dipped back into 599K over the last month.>OWB had a really good start to 2026 but has since fallen back down to smaller numbers>Pax Britannica really need to hurry up with their update as they are still in Version 1.7 and people are starting to think the mod is dead>The 2020s gimmick mods are beginning to really ramp up their unsubs: Minecraft, Metro, Star Wars.>Fuhrerreich and EOANB are struggling to reclaim their subs after their Workshop move.See you guys July 26th!
>>2438006Thank you! Love these! Love the analysis and how it captures some of the smaller mods too.
>>2438006Seeing Requiem grow almost as fast as TNO is falling is interesting. For the next edition, could you add Rises Again? It's another fork of the Panzer era version of the mod. They have 40k subs so it should fit in nicely in your list.My personal theory is that a lot of the people leaving TNO join the reduxes and that this trend will continue until they start adding actual content again. Purging their Russia team and starting Italy over from scratch again sure won't help.
>>2437978>>2437991>>2438006>They start getting clowned on so they tell their Discord dents to resub >Mod grows for the first time in a month
>>2438007I'm glad you appreciate it. It was originally a personal autism project of mine but I thought that people here would appreciate the analysis. >>2438011I thought that Requiem's growth this month was kinda disappointing. They released their next big update in the form of Berezniki's Mladorossi but that didn't result in a boost bigger than what they've been getting until then. I do hope Requiem does grow though, that way they can set their sights on bigger things.I'll consider adding Rises Again in July. I had the (potentially controversial) idea of simply removing Endsieg from the list entirely as the mod hasn't updated since 2022 and has not had a single positive month since I started making this list. It's clearly abandoned and while it has a lot of subs and is on the first page, I think the slot is better served for a different mod and I wanna keep it at Top 30.I don't want to remove EOANB since they are technically No. 20 before the workshop page move and I wanna follow their journey to reclamation.>>2438015Not a TNO-liker myself but TNO has grown by 8084 subs between April and May. It's just June that was a loss for them.
ACK'd myself by thinking that this was just the regular HOI4 thread and that the modding one was still on the previous one so I'll just repost.>>2423323>>2423356>"What if 1.1 flops?">"I think the opposite. I think 1.1 will be so good that future updates will look shit in comparison. TFR kind of had the perfect conditions to craft a really good update. There probably wont be anything like it in the future."While I think it's POSSIBLE that 1.1 may be the peak of TFR content, you gotta remember that there is a lot of ground that the mod is still yet to cover.>Literally the whole of Europe is still yet to get content: United Kingdom, Italy, Spain, Netherlands as well as countries which are most affected by the 1EW, Poland, Hungary and Ukraine. Balkan theatre too.>Asia is practically just China and Japan right now, missing major players like the Koreas, India, Australia, Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia/Singapore, Indonesia (4th most populated country btw)>The Middle East is the centerpiece of Modern Warfare and are still yet to get any content, especially Israel which you could argue is one of if not the most important/influential-on-geopolitics country of the modern era. As well as Iran which is its 'greatest enemy'>Other conflicts yet without content, a big war in West, East and South Africa. Nigeria has been 'the next big player' for the last 20 years so TFR could definitely give them the spotlight some time in the future, as well as their multipolar enemies>South America will always be isolated but a USA-style Brazillian Civil War would be a way to make it engaging, mirroring a lot of what we see in the 2ACW and including the various players on that continent>Other various neural countries that could be relevant enough to include; Sweden, Finland, Canada, Libya/Maghreb. I think TFR still has so much ground to explore that they will not run out of content to add. They certainly won't be able to finish the mod before HOI5
>>2438017>grown by 8084 subs between April and MayIt's because of the dlc and because they've lost most coders they're slow to get comp patches out and unlike other mods their support is pretty soft and only jumps back in during updates. People here mostly just like to make fun of them for being assholes in the past and you shouldn't overthink the a-logging.
What was the mod that Grisha used to highlight provinces and railways?
>>2438018>Euro/Asia/Middle East majorsGoes without saying.>South America contentI bet TFR will be the first mod in a long time that makes it fun. The J6-style shit going on there over the elections in Brazil alone is a good event to go with. There's also the removal of the Monroe Doctrine.>Canada, NordicsPeople are sleeping on these but I think that the trucker protests and America imploding prove that there's fertile ground in Canada. We also know that they reworked the map of the Scandinavian countries so they might be planning something there too though tbf that might be Catharsis related.
>>2437978I CAN'T UPDATENOTHING EVER RELEASESBILLIONS MUST REWORKTHE SUBSCRIBER NUMBERS HAVE FALLENIT'S TNOVER
>>2438093>everything was gutted multiple times because of the germany rework >germany rework release is not in sight after half a decade
>>2438018TFR won't run out of content even with we just remain with the countries that are confirmed to get content for a while.>Overhaul of demoractic Germany and France, especially post 1EW>Italy and UK content>Several more Russia and Japan paths>Australia, NK, SK and possibly other Asian countries will get contentI hope the devs stick with the quality and neither pull a TNOver nor a Millenium Dawn.
This guy has one of the worst accents I've ever had the displeasure of hearingA Welsh/American chimera accent, how do you even get it?
>>2438096They said that they were hoping to get the demo out this year. Imagine: GTA 6 will release before their fucking GCW replacement demo.
Good Job
>>2436379We just had the demo of a new one come out like half a year ago, no?
>>2438087>The J6-style shit going on there over the elections in Brazil alone is a good event to go with.That's what I mean. The problem with South America in most mods is that it is extremely self-contained and the geopolitical relevance of those countries verges on zero. Since TFR itself is quite self-contained I think Brazil Civil War would genuinely be a fun way to learn about the politics and extremism in that country.
>>2438122isn't there a submod working on that?
>>2438125Yeah but it doesn't look too good.
>>2438125At the moment I only trust the main TFR team. The only good submod out there right now is the UN mod.
>>2438105>Be welsh>somehow start sounding americanyikes
>>2438154submodding scene for tfr is still too young but flags unfurled tells me the future looks bright
>>2438200As an oldhat that remembers what the early scenes for KR, KX and TNO looked like I'm inclined to agree. And to be fair the Brazil submod for TNO was originally very good and regarded positively even if the shine wore off on that apple over time. I haven't finished it, but I've liked everything I've seen of it so far. They have a good mix of seriousness, playability and humor. Not gonna lie even if I think the main TFR inclusion for Florida UN is more believable and will be a lot of fun for the major powers, making the UN their own ACW faction is really kino too.
>>2438219A better version of the "southern giant" tfr submod that added content for brazil is apparently coming out very soon, we'll have to wait and see. The UN submod with post-war content will be kino too
>>2438225Is that the mod that has a million bajillion factions?
>>2438225>Good BrazilI'll believe it when I see it but until then I'll assume that it's kinda trash like the TFX stuff. I don't hate TFX but they really need to find their place.
>>2438231I think so>>2438237Fair point
The Fire Redux is just TFR with a lagswitch at this point.Much like how KX was KR with a lagswitch.Hopefully at some point it can become it's own thing worth playing some day like KX but it's mediocre at this point.
>>2438240KX has a lot of unique and original content and a just cause for existence. TFX is just... A bad expansion pretending to be a Redux. Don't really see that changing since TFR team is actually doing alright things.desu TFX should just have branded themselves as an umbrella fan expansion mod.
Apart from KR has any of the big mods updated?
It's come to my attention that HOI4 players have a reputation for being trannies. This confuses me because I was under the impression HOI4 was known as the chuddiest of chud games, unless the implication is you're all in the closet.
>>2438300Unfortunately, most chuddy forms of media(Warhammer 40k, Postal) will eventually get infested with trannies.This is because chuds and trannies originate from the same autistic nerd who took different paths.
>>2438300autism games are a horseshoe
>>2438308Postal was never really all that chuddy. They dogged on conservatives since postal 2.RWS were slightly left leaning centrists until Postal 4, now they're just neolibs defecating on a once decent franchise.
>>2438318early 2000s edgelordism was left leaning, because the people in power were neoconsthere was a shift in the 2010s where edgelordists became rightoids
>>2438363Oh yeah but don't mistake it, the leftists 20 years ago would be down with the agendas of today.
>>2438318This is wrong. RWS were generally lolberts and their satire etc is closer to South Park than anything else.>>2438387No, not really. If we're talking Bush-era then most people left of the mainstream left both in Europe and America were broadly against globalist free trade and neocon wars. They weren't completely subverted until the 2010s when the corporations told them to abandon all class and anti-war struggles and focus exclusively on race and gender issues. At that point the left became completely useless and more-or-less exclusively focused around propping up corporations and shutting down workers asking for a fair wage.
>>2438415leftist culture in the 90s and 2000s was:>Rage against the machine>Green day>yearning for bill clinton>Noam Chomsky>Al Gore>Jesse JacksonAll of which love/d identity politics, globalism, and sperging about political correctness even back then. And yes they left was highly influencing the youth ages 10-22 too but not nearly to the extent the internet would allow them to.
Strongest political party for democratic Germany? Haven't played them all but SPD is terrible like in OTL.
>>2438440Greens
>>2438437I think he means left of the mainstream not the people who barely cared about mainstream politics.
>>2438449Normie leftists have never changed. They were and still are the koolaid hopium drinkers of society.
>>2438440Marlibs for civ spam
>>2438453>Normie leftistsWhere are they now? Disgusted with the current state of leftism, I presume.
>>2438460They never left they just got more radically left.Rightists got leftist, leftists got more left.
CQN YQU FEEL IT?THE CQLM BEFQRE THE STQRM.
>>2438460>>2438463There has been a split ever since Occupy Wallstreet got subverted. Many original lefists abandoned the new mainstream left while many others went along with the shift.You look at 2000s era Democrats and they are unironically more conversative than current Republicans.
>>2438300>HOI4 players have a reputation for being trannies>I was under the impression HOI4 was known as the chuddiest of chud games
If you could bring back any dead mod what would it be?Personally I would revive Eternal Golden Dawn because we need more mods set in the 80s.
>>2438662Daydream in Black. I know it lives on through Millennium Daydream, but still.
>>2438662>MD4 as originally intendedIt seemed like it could've been a nice, somewhat grounded modern day mod. Instead, we got the worst of its potential mixed with the worst that MD had to offer and it was the worst of both worlds.>LoHaLiOr rather: LoHaLi from its mysterious initial phase and not the clusterfuck it became.
>>2438715>>LoHaLiWhat mod is this?
>>2438716Long and Happy Life. It was one of the early mods where everything is a balkanized warlord hellscape and desu I don't know if it was ever more than a toozer mod.
>>2438712There is a DiB revival project https://www.youtube.com/@DaydreaminBlack
>>2438721Found a subplebbit for it and there was a toozer six months ago, so it's actually still sorta alive. Still just a toozer mod though nothing playable has released afaik
>>2438662AEIOU 1886. It actually made an olden setting work in HOI4 but suffered from coder loss and failed shifting to Vicky 3
>>2438744Death rattles of what could've been. Sad.
>>2438662Also the supernatural shit in it was cool.
>>2438803
>>2438885Epic.
>>2438892
>>2438662Old Modern Day.
>>2438662Millennium Dawn
So, is this the final DLC or what? Timeline checks out, right?
>>2439162EU4 went on for almost 11 years until its last DLC and we've had no signs of a HOI5 yet. They might still be milking it.
>>2439167It was clear for anyone paying attention Winds of Change was the last DLC. I was just wondering if it was the same with HoI IV.Plus Paradox is not developing another major release right now. And HoI IV is next on the assembly line. That or Stellaris 2.
>>2439167>HOI5I really wonder what's going to happen with HOI4's modding scene when HOI5 is announced and then drops, have any of the major mods ever said what their plans are for when HOI5 happens?
>>2439174Any modding plans for HOI5 are redundant and not even worth discussing until we know what the tools are yet. If it's obvious that it'll be far less accessible for modders then that'll affect people's plans.
JVLY 4TH 2026NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT IS COMINGQ
>>2439174Most big mods for EU IV are still in development.
>>2439182nayrt but Morrowind has a huge, healthy and vibrant modding community that puts out lots of games even with a far more popular and to many superior alternative in the form of Skyrim available for literally everything. An even more extreme case would be Doom which has outlived decades of new games by simply being incredibly easy to make mods for.I think HOI4 modding will be fine for a very long time unless HOI5 is something spectacularly user-friendly and good.
>>2439178It would be really funny if they release nothing and tease nothing on July 4th, just total radio silence. Not gonna happen cause it's the 4th of July, they have to put out a teaser no matter how minor and small just because of the date. But it'd still be funny if they didn't.
>>2439257I'm pretty sure that the guys doing this are just shitposters.
Is there any country that is like playing the Western Roman Empire in Total War Attila?Basically you start out with a powerful nation but due to internal revolts and foreign invasions it is very difficult to keep things together. Losses are pretty much guaranteed and you need to slow down the decline as much as possible to have a change to recover or else you lose everything.The closest example I know off would be China after losing the GAW but the fragmentation doesn't happen nearly as fast while you can also prevent much of it if you make the right decisions.
>>2439286Posted in dead thread on accident
>>2439283League of Eight Provinces in Kaiserreich. They start out as a large unitary colossus in China, but face massive revolts and losses with huge stability losses for as long as you're unable to bring together your fake state by force, and you don't have long before the Japanese start knocking at your door.
>>2439315Thanks nigger.
>>2437893All it takes is a cute avatar to get over four armies worth of voluntereers
>>2439297noim pretty sure it still crashes if you try to start a new game
>>2439297>>2439381It says on their Steam page that they updated a few days ago which I guess must be a hotfix and not a comp patch. I'd say wait another week if you don't want to deal with reverts or random fix drops. That's usually how long it takes.
>>2439276Most likely, but still I'd be surprised if we get nothing on the 4th of July. It's THE American holiday and the mods most anticipated updates are focused on America.
>>2439257Why is it so close to July 4th and TFR has not updated to the newest hoi4 version yet?What will be included in the patch?Nothing can stop what is comingNothing!Q
>>2439498Can't stump the update!You can only PUMP the update!
>It's July Qth>Trump out in front of the White House>He's been holding a speech on America's birthday>It's pretty nice, I even got a MAGA balloon>He interrupts his speech for what seems like a tangent at first>"But there's someone special in this crowd, a real patriot who's done more for America in her hour of need than anyone gathered before us here on this special day. 250! Can you believe it? Two-hundred-and-fifty.">He points into the crowd>"There he is! Novo! Get up here!">The lead of TFR is helped up to Trump by some Secret Service agents using a ladder>I can't believe what's happening - the TFR lead is there with my President who I voted for thrice>"Now some of you are worried about the midterms but I believe we have a way to get our message out and get past the lying fake media like fake news CNN.">He points at a CNN cameraman (he'll never be a woman) in the crowd. Everyone boos.>"Novo, why don't you tell them what we real patriQts have cooked up?">The TFR lead pauses for effect. The world stands still.>Finally, he speaks>"DQRK MQGQ update is being uploaded to Steam.>"RIGHT. THE FUCK. NOW.">The entire District of Columbia cheers
>>2438662Panzer's TNO, it was retarded but still kind of fun.
>>2439667>Panzer's TNOit lives onhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3583339918
>>2439667It would be like red flood instead of being literally worse than kalterkrieg.>>2439669I still would have liked to know how the setting could have been filled up desu. He's never going to work with a kiwigod chud and very likely neither with requiem or any other anymore.
>>2439669nayrt but it's not the same.Though to be fair I trust this guy more than Panzer.
>>2439693would have
>>2434762This is not a teaser for 1.1. Theses are pre 2ACW events from the submod "flavor expansion"
>>2438662Red World. Sadly effectively died with it's author. I still wish I could see what his plans for Germany were.
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To any TFR devs lurking the thread for the love of God please add this song to the radio.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCgh--I5V5c
>>2439906This slaps.
>>2439911Yup. Also fits some paths like AWD, Insurrectionary Anarchists, Ma, and sorta the Cog (song is from the POV of a shooter they've groomed).
>>2439906Reminds me of the fact that the European radio does NOT have 99 Luftballons.It's a peak European War song.
>>2439906I hope not, let's not start adding pure tranny shit into the mix. The radio is really good, would be a shame to fuck it up
>>2439952It's just some punk music grandpa, no need to start hallucinating tranny phantoms.
>>2439955Nah, you know what I mean, don't pretend to be stupid. There's no problem with punk.
>>2439956I literally don't. The song is about a bored mentally ill guy who goes around shooting people and while he feels bad about it initially he's unable to stop himself because he's having fun and the voice in his head keeps telling him to do it. Literally zero troon shit or allusions to troon shit in the song.
>>2439961The question is wether it is trooncoded or not. Movement shooters are also not intentionally troon games yet many are trooncoded.
>>2439965It's not trooncoded either, it's chud/incelcoded if anything. Also I fucking hate labeling something as 'trooncoded' because 9/10 times it has literally nothing to do with trannies and they just happened to hijack it or are actively trying to.
>>2439700>from the submod "flavor expansion"I found some of the old Atomwaffen events that were taken down. I gotta say... I've seen way worse. If a retarded low effort shitpost was enough to get it taken down from Steam, have fun with the Judge Holden submod.
>>2439969Interesting point. Let us consult the experts of the 2024 Culture War from the Asmongold Discord.
>>2439973>Judge HoldenRedpill me on this nigger. Just how evil is he? Give a comparison to some truly evil motherfucker like Tamerlane.
>>2439973Here's another one and once again, I've read way worse. This is nowhere near the depths of Judge Holden and Hog, shit it barely reaches the level of the Draka and Stirling had them doing worse shit on screen.
>>2439976For whatever reason -- audience, I guess -- different types of media are held to wildly different standards of moralism and censorship. Video games are among the most restricted, and literature the freest.
>>2439975Holden rapes a kid in every village they come across, rapes and then scalps a kid after a raid on an indio village, throws a bag full of puppies into a river and shoots at them, takes a bunch of indio women and children captive then uses them as sex slaves, riled up a boomtown against a priest for fun and watched as a mob tore him apart, then did something unspeakable to the kid in the finale. He also shoots people for fun. The worst part is his philosophy and world view:>"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."He believes himself the judge of everything he comes across and that only he can decide it's fate, hence his first name:>"Judge." And my personal favorite quote:>"Moral law is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak."He views morality as a barrier to his goals and desires. He's a great villain and a Satanic archetype.
>>2439979Can't let the heckin redditorinos be reminded that they're playing the bad guys, I guess. Were there worse events because when I'm reading a shitpost followed by a preface to a chapter from 'Under the Yoke,' I'm anything but traumatized.
>>2439979Feels like a leftover from the 2000s hysteria of how certain groups tried to create a link between mass shootings and violent video games.People assume since you are the player and actively doing things that this is worse compared to other media which is way less interactive. You are not an observer but an actor. I think the reasoning is retarded since it has been proven time and time again that people can easily differentiate between video games and real life.Nowadays it is mostly 4th wave feminists screeching about sexualized video games and that they turn men into rapists. Yet I remember that there was a study on that and it concluded that men who played games with oversexualized female characters, had actually more empathy for women who were sexually abused than the average person.
>>2439982Ok he sound like some evil ass nigger. Tamerlane is worse but Judge really sounds malicious.
>>2439906Based but if we start adding school shooter themed ska, why wouldn't we start adding incelcore songs?
TFR updated.
>>2437893Who is that USA leader?
>>2440009Caleb Maupin, he's the leader of the APLA's Jacobins.
>>2440010I see it now. Just never saw him wearing a Fedora.
>>2440011I think he only has that portrait if he reunifies America as the USA and not the USSA
>>2440007>Old doctrine system was replaced with a new one.>Special Forces Doctrines were added.WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK.>MLRS received a huge Soft Attack increase and an ability to deal damage to state buildings. With its combat width being changed from 3 to 2 and huge fort attack buffs MLRS will be much more viable nowI WILL START A PLAYTHROUGH RIGHT NOW.
>>2440017me, personally, Im lafayette gaming rn
YO LIL DONNIE
>>2439973Heh. I have some ideas over where to take the APLA in the atrocity department. But after seeing what happened here, I just know the heckin Anarchorinos would just get me banned. >>2439976Redditors consider this pizza. S.M. Stirling is an interesting comparison because he more or less had the same exact thing as the preface to the fourth chapter of Marching Through Georgia: >(handwritten postscript)Here’s the lot I promised: 123 of them. 12-30. wenches and prettybucks. Prime stuff, you aren’t going to sell these cheap to wash dishes. The wives and children of the Fascist politicians and university professors won’t give you any trouble but I advise splitting up the nuns. Their pen’s right under my office, and the bitches have been singing, praying, and chanting fit to give you the heebies. Had to send in the bulls with electroprods twice last week to shut ’em up.>Anyway, you owe me for this one, good buddy. The bureaucratic bunfights I had to go throughl First, Tech Section tried to grab ’em for that hush-hush uranium refining thing out by the Quattara. then that greasy immigrant Lederman in Forces Morale Section wanted them for his knocking-shops…>Edgar sends his regards to you and Cynthia. Still on for tennis Saturday?>Love Felice-https://smstirling.com/samples/marching-through-georgia-chapter-4/Drama like this really makes me think that the guy pissed off someone and they were just itching for an excuse to get him banned.
>>2440021TRVST THQ PLVNQ
>>2440030Me on the right
>>2440023I wrote up a few events for fun, but what happened to the Atomwaffen guy in the flavor mod really makes me wonder if it's worth it. Did I miss something or was this just modder drama that got blown out of proportion? I do have some themes in mind:>APLA: organized crime rapidly overtakes the LARPers, especially the anarchists who're nearly just as atrocity prone as Atomwaffen. POV character is a former Mexican Operator who starts his own Cartel, like the Los Zetas before him. Real tension between the career criminals who want to build their own territories and the savages that are just mindlessly raping and burning everything in sight.>Trump: the Imperial Guard from 40k. Surrounded on all sides, they fight an unwinnable war against savagery and barbarism. POV characters are a Guard regiment not unlike the Tanith First and Only, facing insurmountable odds with grim stoicism and determination. >Biden: black ops. Biden is a fluke, a meat puppet for those far wiser and greater than him. Harris is even more worthless. The real big dogs sit in the shadows. POV is an operator who does some fucked up shit in the name of freedom. The most 'supernatural' of the five. >Atomwaffen: I'm inspired by the Tyranid rulebook. You only see the Atomwaffen through the eyes of an outside observer, painstakingly recording their atrocities in the vain hope that someone gets off their ass and does something. When someone finally makes a move, it's already much too late and Armageddon begins. >Patriot Front: a civilian stuck in New York. Focuses on normal people desperately trying to survive, and witnesses society truly and utterly falling apart as modernity's reliance on globalization completely breaks down.
I know it's next to impossible due to hoi4 limitation, but I really want a mod where it put an emphasis on sending volunteers into various conflicts to fight in proxy wars, while still being fun to play.Sometimes I would just boot into RT56RP to turn on the mercenary nation thing, and build mountaineers to blow up the AI.
>>2440034Any other info on DQRK MQGQ aside from focus icons?
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So it is safe to say that we are never getting that Second Chinese Civil War content, right?
>>2440097Maybe but it doesn't seem high priority now. If only the original China team was still around.
>>2440017>>Old doctrine system was replaced with a new one.>>Special Forces Doctrines were added.This shit has a major bug. You can get the old doctrines AND the new doctrines at the same time.So you can stack double bonuses. By mid-game you can walk around with double max buffed line infantry and mechanized. just click to delete enemies lol.
>>2440104How does this work lmao.
>>2440107get enough xp for a doctrine and click the doctrine button when it pops up. Click it twice you can get the old trees and the new doctrine tracks
>>2440062Im looking through the files but i dont know whats new or not
>>2440110I have to try this with supercharged Chinese units.This works for air doctrine as well? CAS would be completely insane.
>>2440017>Special Forces Doctrines addedRIP Konata
>>2440017>Massive fort attack buffsHoly shit let's do this.3! 3! 3!
Tried Medvedev's Iron trial achievement. Ironman elite, the TFR-specific nerfs to production make it a slog. Apparently the Gunther AI is not able to naval invade so he can not finish his wars to start the 2ew. Long ass game softlocked. I will never ever turn on ironman again, fuck.
guesses for new meta div?
>>2440123APCs also got a buff.Good thing other units become more viable now.
THE FIRE RISES - v1.0.9.1c Changelog-- COMMON --- The mod is now updated for the current version of HOI4 - 1.19- Old doctrine system was replaced with a new one.- Special Forces Doctrines were added- Two new economic actions were added. Civilian and Military investments let you spend your hard-earned money to receive buffs in exchange- You receive more buffs/debuffs from your War Support and Debt To GDP Ratio. Stability is not the only important parameter now- Multiple bugfixes-- ASIA --- Hidden production debuff was removed for the minor countries that participate in the Asian Cold War.-- COMBAT --- Overall Strategic Bombing Damage was reduced- Land Unit tweaks. Multiple buffs/nerfs for different Battalions- ALL Marine Units (Infantry Marines, Amtracks, Amphibious Tanks) can exfiltrate from ANY coastline province, without needing the port- Support Companies do not extend the combat width anymore. Combat Width extension from research/doctrines was also removed- Air Fights last much longer as the air combat is significantly slowed. Your whole airforce won't get evaporized in one day anymore- Multiple Modules for Tanks and Aicraft were tweaked. Modules that used to be obviously inferiour have a use now- Weight of the airplane does not multiplicatively progress with the new researched Airframes now- Strategic Bomber Airframes got more weapon slots than before- Gen 3 Helicopters research was moved from 2028 to 2024. Price of Utility Helicopters was greatly reduced. Attack Helicopters overall stats were improved, related research buffs were increased, Attack Helicopters can perform Naval Strikes now- A significant cost reduction for Drone Launch Sites. Loitering Munition Drones deal less damage, but also cost much less- A significant cost reduction for Static Anti-Air. Static Anti-Air stats like Bomber Damage/Hit Factor/Bombing Damage Reduction were improved
-- LAND UNITS --- SPGs damage and hardness was reduced. Even with the changes it stands as a good Hard Attack dealer with great pierce capabilities- MLRS received a huge Soft Attack increase and an ability to deal damage to state buildings. With its combat width being changed from 3 to 2 and huge fort attack buffs MLRS will be much more viable now- SPAA soft/hard attack was reduced- APCs play a much more significant role now. They provide good soft attack, breakthrough, recovery rate, and speed. Combined, it stands as a great unit for quick pushes with encirclements, facilitating a breakthrough or even participating in volunteer missions around the world- IFVs overall stats were nerfed. Even with the changes, IFVs excel at holding your frontlines- Recon Tanks received a massive organisation buff and can now operate without any other units in the template. Combined with increased speed and lowered cost, new changes make them very viable for tags that have to carefully balance out their military production, like Japan or countries of Europe.- Main Battle Tanks have much more Organisation now. Modern Tank guns have better reliability- Exoskeletons have reduced prices and increased stats- Motorized Infantry defence was increased, combat width was changed from 4 to 3. Now it stands as a decent mobile Defence unit for its price- Amtrac Battalion became a fully self-sufficient unit with great stats and bonuses for their role- Amphibious Tanks were improved in multiple ways. Combat Width was reduced from 4 to 3, organisation and terrain specific bonuses were significantly increased
- Starting Reliability of all Mechanized Equipment and Tanks was lowered- Movement speed of all Mechanized Equipment and Tanks was lowered- Armour of APCs and IFVs was reduced. Their piercing was improved- Recon tank armour was slightly improved- Supply usage by Light Mechanized, Mechanized and Tanks was increased- Doctrine Mastery Gain is increased, especially in division/ship/air wing training-- COMBAT TLDR --- 2 width units tend to be damage dealers with low org that work great with other units in the template- 3 width units tend to be self sufficient units with high enough org to fulfill their role- 4 widht units are Mechanized and Main Battle Tanks that can truly shine with some attack/org help from other units-- MISC --Integrated the 'TFR Fixes' submod from Lifestrike, fixing loading and saving among other issues. We salute you!
>>2440170>>2440171>>2440172A lot of the balance changes read like a wishlist being granted. Very nice.
>>2440170>>2440171>>2440172I've had quick glance at the new additions are here my unprofessional thoughtsI wonder if Grisha had anything to do with Strat bomber nerfsRange buff for attack helicopters for teh doctrine sounds very strongVolunters buff doctrine is great for larp, plus new doctrine changes make volunteers more importantRec tanks are really cheap, might be rather usefulShame there's still no stand alone self propelled anti tankMotorized is much better now. Combined with light tank buffs might be good for ACWI was using MLRS for larp anyway, feels good taht they got buffedNATO doctrine is now even better for Russia
>>2440195Oh, new liquidity investment button is a buff to Medvedev Russia as you have endless liquidity due to brics decisions
I must LARP and act out my political fantasies in TFR. My country has to become an authoritarian ultramilitarist ethnostate where the people get gibs for everything and have proper worker's rights.Path for this feel?
>>2440197Money was never an issue for me with Russia even if I went for welfare and education spendings early on. This will be incredibly useful.
>>2440170>>2440171>>2440172Really looking forward to trying out some of these balance changes! I hope they fix commander traits soon too, having it all be like vanilla just doesn't work when nearly everything is mechanized and features you'd expect represented just aren't there. Just across the board everything's just better if it works as intended. Everything being a viable different build with advantages and disadvantages instead of just being weaker versions of X is a good change.Some omissions: Light infantry, militia and motorized militia. I'd honestly like to see more infantry types and ways to equip them and it'd be nice if light infantry got some buffs in cities. Motorized militias felt somewhat too powerful too since they were just a slight downgrade from regular motorized. 1W cannon fodder as Atomwaffen with their human waves would be funny btw.Happy to see more economy options too. TNO and MD have experimented with that and those are some of the few features in those mods that I've liked even if they don't always turn out well. Happy to see more of this.>>2440195>Grisha nerfRealistically I'd say that it likely has more to do with the ACW and Biden's airforce being unbeatable if you know what you're doing. But I choose to believe that they did it exclusively because Grisha raped NATO to death since that's the funnier answer.
THIS IS VERY YUGE FOLKS
>>2440242>Dark MAGA 1.0Does it have any LOC and effects or is it just GFX?
so what's the new meta? I want to focus on larp, not excel spreadsheets, and I liked being able to spam 8/3s to victory. I'd appreciate it if someone could share a new template good for everything (or at least, for Europe)
>>2440244Some of them have effects None have Text
>>2440246Could you share the ones with effects and what the effects are?
>>2440247Working on it
>>2440247Here
>>2440124The Ironman cheevos never unlock for me despite meeting all the reqs
Honestly wish Japans radical paths was finished before Ugly American. Now its gonna be 6 months before its worth playing them again
>>2440257Event
>>2440281DEATH PENALTYBRING IT FORTH
>>2440242Outdated award
>>2440286Well its what i found in game
>>2440287Its outdated stuff, it has been in game files for a while
>>2440299I see I thought they accidentally put an unfinished dark mandate path in there
Can the guy with the leaked git show us some events or loc for mike ma?
>>2440316*one of the guys
>>2440170>Two new economic actions were added. Civilian and Military investments let you spend your hard-earned money to receive buffs in exchangeThanks to this you can get almost 150% Construction speed baseline as France pre-1EWI was able to get 160% with all the speed buffs combined.
>TFR economy question Are there any other economic features you'd like to see?
>>2440430The ability to sell excess equipment on the black market.
>>2440430stock market minigame like in cookie clicker
>>2440430I'm trying to think of one but all my ideas lean way too heavy into TNO-like GUI slop like having a stock market minigame for the worldwide financial crisis.>>2440466fuck you i was typing first.
>>2440430Labor camp management mini-game for AWD.
>>2440430I know this will never get in, BUT... Atomwaffen Black Market sales. You ever wonder why nobody seemed to take these guys seriously right until they were lobbing nukes at everyone and everything? Well, now you do! >Crocodile, meth, heroin, even some glowing weird stuff dug out of the research labs of the American southwest! It's all yours my friend, so long as you have enough yen. Freshly grown from the opium fields of Nebraska or freshly cooked in the plants of Texas and New Swabia, grown with freshly produced bio combustible soil, our product always attains a five-star rating in the marketplace. No longer do you need to roll the dice with trash taken from the cartels. >Crack not doing it for you? Then allow us to introduce our human catalog. From the snowy blonde of Utah to the latinas of Texas, the fruits of conquest are yours to pluck. From trailer trash to sorority girls, from toothless crackheads to cheerleaders, wench or pretty buck, you can have it all. Specialized options include electro-shock conditioned breeders to even wild anarchists you can break yourself!>All genders, all ages... Here at Atomwaffen, we have it all! Chemotherapy and polygraph testing ensure complete obedience and reliability for owners. Don't waste time, contact your local Atomwaffen branch today!-Taken from Atomwaffen brochure, collected in 'Papers of the Plastic Age Collapse' Anthology, Curated by Vlodmir Saburov, Svetlana University Press, 3049 AD.
>>2440463>>2440466A way they could do it as a joke would be to have it appear before ACW and then it all gets wiped when Wall Street goes under.>>2440471>KZ Manager GUI for NSM>>2440490You already have that in the form of the non-federal tags being able to sell drugs for money. I also think that kind of content is perfectly well-represented by their economy type and national ideas which are all shit and degrade all your development stats. You can infer well enough what's going on there.
>>2440096Kino
>>2440499I know that, but I was thinking about expanding it a little bit. Stealing artwork, endangered animals, whaling, and of course, 'human cargo.' The redditors would have a meltdown but there's serious potential in having these freaks deforesting national parks for lumber, or selling timber wolves, or digging up Indio artifacts to collectors or... Shit, tearing apart old boom towns to sell to a Chinese developer trying to make an imitation city. There's a lot more you can do.
>>2440499>then it all gets wiped when Wall Street goes under.If the stock market totally collapses, banks, brokers, credit unions and lenders would be absorbed by corporations first and governments second.Corporations would get chopped up after getting first dibs to the free falling of assets.National governments or governing bodies would mass liquidate and rehypothecate positions, sell bonds and unwind giant carry trades in a last ditch attempt to strengthen major currencies against the crash.The best way you could model this in HOI4 I'm not sure but it would have to end in a way that repositions the world economic system under a different currency, like a great reset of sorts.The more I put the details to paper the less I really want such a thing in TFR. It just sounds like it sucks to play. I'll take the debuffs instead any day.
I'm retarded, take pity upon me. Is it just APC + MLRS now, or a vanilla-like lineholders and offensives two div style, or what?
>>2440170>Overall Strategic Bombing Damage was reduced
>>2440505Considering how they banned a guy for doing just that, I wouldn't risk it. I personally doubt it was Steam and more intra-developer drama but it's clear the 'reddit audience' wants Atomwaffen to be safe edgy, instead of the nasty freaks O9A and Atomwaffen actually are in real life. As amusing as it is to imagine Redditors having a meltdown over their dudes driving several species to extinction ('cause that would make them DA BAD GUYZ) it's better to avoid the drama.
>>2440316interested in anything specific?
>>2440490>From the snowy blonde of Utah to the latinas of Texas, the fruits of conquest are yours to pluck
>>2440519MBTs and IFVs are still kings on the battlefield in raw stats but APCs and MLRS is a fast attack combo with good soft attack and breakthrough.
>>2440490>buckWEEELLLL we've been breakin' bucks for three generations,Most 'o the time da breakin sticks, da buck don't give you any kine o' problemsBut ever once in awhile weellll you get a peculiar buckThis one buck weeelll he was da peculiar type, he would act up but wouldn't hide ditIt seems ever' week he was takin' a nap on cookin' duty (but with one eye all fish like) or he'd take extra mystery pork pie or hell he'd sit his black ass on da porchSeemed ever' week he was doing somethin' rascally in plain sight of da ovahseahSo da ovahseah would call out to da buck to get ta breakin' shack, and I tell you hwat dat buck would run to that there shack like it was a cool pool during a hot Nevada summer I tell you hwatHell it got so bad the buck would tell you what kine o' mischief he was gettin into- he hadn't even don' anything yet!He would skip ovah to da shack and holler, "C'mon massah, this buck ain't gon' break itself!"Just downright peculiar>>2440505I would shy away from blatant shitposting, and yes I did laugh at "HAIL METH," but I'd still throw it in. The Draka prefaces are honestly perfect for a group like Atomwaffen.
>>2440548>mystery pork pieWould the AWD cook people?
>>2440537maybe a focus or two? if not maybe an event
>>2440537are there any new superevents?
>>2440548I really want to know how the League of the South's conquest of the South will play out. Specifically in regards to Texas and Florida. Would they just fully invade Texas? Try to coup the national movement? I imagine them lynching the Atomwaffen. I guess their main rival will be the Southern Federal Command, fighting battles with them in the same location as the original American Civil War will be great. Personally I think the blacks are too much of a meme faction to serve as the primary antagonist, even the mere National Guards of those two states would handily keep them contained, if not being able to wipe out and clear those cities. I don't exactly know how I'd better represent their inherent resistance to a Neo-Confederacy other then garrison mechanics or possible unit spawning to simulate that kind of guerrilla war.
>>2440617the entire focus tree has loc though i wouldn't bet on it being permanent>>2440624yeah, but most aren't in their new superevent style and will most definitely be changed or have been changed already, considering this version is from early may and a lot of progress could have been done
>>2440666>Focus textGod this is so true. Every fucking building is just a gray Cube with a varying amount of falt, minimalist corporate logos on them it's fucking unbearable.
>>2440666Kino description, hope they don't change it. Ma's path is going to be so fucking good. Also it may be gay to say this but please don't leak his whole tree, wouldn't be right to the devs.
>>2440672"modern art" is one of the greatest psyops ever orchestrated>>2440678better to not spoil it and i respect the tfr devs unlike the tno ones
>>2440680That's something I noticed too. With the TFR leaks people held back, didn't harass the devs and to whatever extent it was shared around it was people treating it as teasers for focus trees to get hyped about. Meanwhile over at /tno/ everyone associated with that mod's just a bitter bastard. I don't know what it is about it but that mod makes people's souls ugly. I don't think any of them even have any fun doing what they're doing.
>>2440666bvrt won't like this....
>>2440666The devs made mention of Ma having two subpaths, one that's more personalist and the other where he works with more broad ecofascist movements, anything interesting about that in the git?
>>2440685Don't post spoilers, let them cook.
>>2440666>"Modern Architecture is meant to castrate you mentally">"all of modern society is designed to be ugly so that your soul becomes ugly"But this is 100% true? Are these supposed to be the crazy people? Ugliness is an attack on the soul. Think about it. You walk down the street and if you see an ugly obese person, your day gets immediately worse.
>>2440685only one side of his political tree has effects on the build so i dont really know much more than what is already known
>>2440688It's like that episode of the Simpsons where drab school uniforms make everyone docile, unimaginative and emotionally sterile. A lot of the deliberate ugliness isn't just meant to demoralize and spiritually drain you but to shut down your imagination too.
>>2440684If Bvrt really is Aryan he'd recognize modern Mcdonalds architecture rapes your soul, we mvst retvrn to the old red and gold Mcdonalds with golden arches and clowns everywhere.
>>2440694That'd be based.
>>2440660>Specifically in regards to Texas and FloridaNot sure about Florida but taking Texas (and probably Oklahoma as well) seems to be part of the LOS and BLA's best outcomes, they can both succeed without Texas but successfully taking it is obviously better for them.
>>2440699>succeed*secede
>>2440699Florida was part of the Confederacy and it's represented in that one focus too. Almost guarantee you that them holding Florida is a guaranteed thing for them if they win.
>>2440704Florida being a guaranteed thing if they win is probably true, but>it's represented in that one focus too.Same goes for Texas but based off the BLA teaser we know it's possible they can successfully maintain sovereignty without it.
>>2440704It's completely different though.Texas is a tag that can be a permanent ally of theirs and I'm sure that there are other instances where Texas cannot be taken even in a win state. However they're required to take Florida. Currently PF can only ally with either them or AWD but if this is changed to include both then even a successful AWD is still someone they'll need to fight after the national conference. It's literally impossible for them to end the game with Florida not being controlled by them by the time the war ends.
>>2440666what do you mean by not in the new superevent style?
>>2440097It's probably still happening. Russia devs seemingly took over development, it's probably going to take a while but it'll come.
>>2440724their new superevents aren't bland images with fadeouts anymore, its a much more complex and edited image
>>2440171Sounds like Japan’s going to be more interesting to play with this update
>>2440124The only Elite Ironman challenge I’ve done was Russian Drive.
>>2440774>There is now a reason to make exoskeletons, amphib tanks, amtracs, and marines.Yeah, it's finally not just mech+tank spam and hoping that your invasions don't get swamped immediately by 25 entire chinese army groups
My last Atomwaffen game was a total Trump Krieg. The Union collapsed in the first year and before Mason kicked the bucket, the APLA had entered the outskirts around Denver.
>>2440790It was looking like the Ameribowl would be between Donald and Riza but Mason now happily sits in a padded room. Also, I found one of the Atomwaffen events. Now I can see why they took it down, just the author's magical realm but... I still laugh at the legendary line:>"HEIL METH!"
>>2440792Event author played eroge for sure. You may even figure out which one.
Any news on Dugin updates in the future?That nigger is too funny.https://youtu.be/HhHRij9SSkU?si=4I7g0vo47_H-Omu0&t=22
>>2440792Is there an archive of the mod? I want to one-up this fellow and write something even worse
>>2440800At that point your just writing ao3 fan fiction
>>2440758hopefully the patriot front gets a new image
Is CSTO Grand Doctrine actually on par with NATO or even better now? Grand Doctrine doesn't matter as much but the CSTO bonuses are pretty good.
>>2440774I am playing Japan but I'm just crashing over and over from the ship designer. Maybe stick to land only nations and strats for now
>>2440822This happened to me with China recently. Someone reported having the same issue in the LARP game. It's a known bug.
>>2440202Only for Medvedev, LDPR and Dugin don't get the BRICS liquidity decisions>>2440740Best opponent for Capital Japan
>>2440706>Texas as a permanent allyIt just doesn't sit right with me to leave it outside of the Confederacy. Ideally there would be an option to unite with it but perhaps for the larp I should wait for one of the other tags to defeat the National Movement before rushing in to "liberate" it.>>2440704>part of the ConfederacyI wonder if the focus tree will address whether or not you are going for the maximalist potential borders of the Confederate States without becoming a unifier.>>2440699>Old Dixie and New DixieWhat do people think is going on here? I'm guessing that Support the Southern identity is about exporting the culture federally during a unifier run whilst Support the Separatist Struggle is purely focused on succeeding from the Union whilst helping other groups like Ma's Men.
>>2440813I honestly just larp as whatever faction I am playing as. Russia should have stuck with Deep Battle, Gerasimov's stuff is only suitable during peace time glowie ops.
>>2440903Gerasimov bonuses are very strong, especially the free recon bonus you get. However it does fuck with your manpower and can lose you the 1EW if you don't know how to manage it.
>>2440904It's one of those things where if I can win without it then I'd rather not have those manpower maluses more then I'd like the bonuses. Also something about playing Russian and not being the horde faction just doesn't sit right with me, especially when in base game you play as Stalin and his endless supply of Ivans.
>>2440901>What do people think is going on here? It's Identity Dixie vs League of the South. I think Identity Dixie is more zoomer Southern secessionists whereas the LOS are boomers. But what they actually do and think differently I'm really not sure.
>>2440971Never been confirmed it's just the most likely one. They might throw us a curve ball with that focus. But if it is, then I'd expect more of a modern, racial white power vibe than just boomer racism. Old guard are in a rough place like that. Too boomer to have adopted more modern developments in hardcore racism but too detached from the really old ways of traditional racism that make the Klan what it is.Gonna blast Moonman while playing KKK btw.
>>2440104>You can get the old doctrines AND the new doctrines at the same time.Sadly patched already.Actually, they did that hotfix really quick. Kudos to the team.
New doctrines seem kinda bad and samey so far and I hope they add more to it. I have no doubt that they will and that this is just a step in the way to get there but still.
>>2440904I took it for the NATO doctrine army xp cost reduction when I planned to lose the first war.
>>2440993Why would anyone choose Identity when the Klan is right there? Seems redundant to have two more-racist-then-boomers factions when one is just such a clear winner. Though it would be kino for there to be a recreation of the original ACW between the zoomer Patriot Front and the zoomer League.
>>2441210>WhyDifferent vibes, I guess. I'd play both that's for sure. Klan will be one of my first though.
Has anyone figured out the new meta template for TFR? I really fucking hate how they broke what worked just for the sake of changing something.
>>2441234The fact that you're crying your eyes out because there isn't an obvious statistically perfect unit any more is good and proves that the changes weren't just for the sake of changing. It seems to work more like an actual strategy game now with different unit specializations and counters.
>>2441242If you asked TFR players why they like the mod and what they expect from it, I guarantee you many more people would answer with "geopolitical simulation/map painting/larp" than "complex combat mechanics".
>>2441248That's just objectively wrong. You still need to have a fun time playing the mod and painting a map which clearly a lot of people do. Also>ComplexNigga, are you retarded? A simple rock-paper-scissor type formula where some units excel in certain roles isn't complex. I'm sure you can still brute force it with mechs and MBTs too they just aren't the best at everything.
>>2441251>A simple rock-paper-scissor type formulaRock-paper-scissor sure sounds like a change for the worse. It's not necessarily more difficult, so the Excel spreadsheetfags aren't satisfied, but it's just more tedious. I think in a mod like TFR, with things like China getting a hidden buff for the GAW or Russia spawning ~250-300 divisions out of thin air after losing the 1EW, the existence of an optimal template for the player isn't a bad thing.
>>2441260>It's not necessarily more difficult>But gosh having a more diverse order of battle is too hard>If I can't just spam one unit I'm fucking cooked man I'm fucking cooked
Haven't played the latest patch yet? What exactly did they change, is the old meta template now completely defunct or is it still viable?
>>2441267I never said that but go on you disingenuous faggot.
>>2441268You can read about it in the patch notes. They made units like APCs and MLRS have actual uses now.>>2441271That's exactly what you said you retarded piece of shit just accept that you're bad at the game and can't fucking function without Reddit telling you about a meme template to hard counter the AI. You're just as hopeless as Otto von Biscuit and the other nobodies that can't play a strategy game to save their lives.
>>2441260DSP energy.
>>2441282>DSP after doing Loji's path
>>2441275I don't know why I even interacted with you in the first place, your first reply should have already indicated what fucking neet you are. I WILL wait for reddit to find the perfect template, and until then, I'll just win by spamming air, so shit your pants all you want. You should fuck off and play BlackICE or some other Excel simulator, or better yet, kill yourself.
>>2441268>SPG is weaker. SPAA is weaker.>Mechanized had it's supply usage increased>MBTs have more org>Support companies dont take widthThat means the old meta is just okay now and will struggle against templates with unit types that can do more soft attack.
>>2441260>Russia spawning ~250-300 divisions out of thin air after losing the 1EWWhat's worse is Russia not spawning units after winning the 1EW. It makes the 2EW feel like garbage because the difficulty is the same as the first. Literal static difficulty.
>>2441290Someone who unironically thinks like this is not a strategy game player. If you don't like fucking around with game mechanics to find a build you ENJOY then you just don't know how to have fun.Seriously, only playing the meta in a SP game? Come on dude.
>>2441290Why the fuck are you even posting here if you don't like even the most basic wargame mechanics? This shit isn't rocket science and has been a genre staple since its inception. I'm happy that they're giving us more and better unit variety and if you don't like having elements of strategy in a wargame then good, you deserve being gatekept by your lack of skills.
>>2441306We can go with me not being a strategy player. I don't play other Paradox games anyway, and I don't feel the need to be a part of the club. What you need to realize is that HOI4 modding has long outgrown the "strategy" part. When it comes to mods like TFR, Kaiserreich or even TNO back when it wasn't shit, I can guarantee you that strategy isn't what draws players in.
>>2441321>What you need to realize is that HOI4 modding has long outgrown the "strategy" partFuck off retard it's niggers like you that create shit like modern TNO by latching on to the vibes while having no interest in the game. Your opinions have no value because you hate the genre of the game you're talking about yet want to influence it at the detriment of everyone that actually plays the game.
>>2441324Like I said earlier, to you or someone else, go play BlackICE. You're not in the majority.
>>2441331Actually yeah I am the majority you dumb cunt. People who buy and play a strategy game are typically people who like to play strategy game and you're a backwards fucking retard for thinking otherwise and then demand that a game you hate and have no interest in when functioning as intended caters to you.
>>2441321>>2441331>Doesn't like strategy games>Doesn't play Paradox games>Enters a thread for both>Demands that mods for the game he doesn't like remove actual strategy from the equation>Gets mad and confused when people make fun of him>Claims that it's completely normal to be invested in games you dislike for genres you dislike and that everyone else is weird
>not having played a Fallout game nor knowing much about the setting>play OWB>think it's neat>actually play a Fallout game (New Vegas)Holy shit I've been missing out. I'm filled with a new appreciation for OWB. Might even watch the Amazon series at this point.
>>2441374OWB is great, best Fallout game since NV in my opinion. Don't give your money to Amazon btw.
>>2441384>Don't give your money to Amazon btw.The seven seas I sail then.
>>2441389Good.
>>2441374>Might even watch the Amazon series at this point.Don't. It shits all over the setting, possibly on purpose because Todd Howard is a petty, vindictive bitch. Though it could just be incompetence because the chief creatives are:>Graham Wagner (producer, showrunner)Silicon Valley, Portlandia, The Office. Comes across like a jackass who doesn't understand Fallout in every interview. Has only worked on comedies before.>Geneva Robertson-Dworet (lead writer)Wrote the Captain Marvel screenplay and the Tomb Raider adaptations.>Jonathan Nolan (executive producer, directed a grand total of three episodes in Season 1)Westworld, Dark Knight / Rises, Interstellar, etc. Basically the only person with respectable writing chops, but he's just a producer and hasn't had any involvement since the episodes he directed, as far as I know.The executive story editor is a random grip/gaffer/electrical guy named Chaz Hawkins with no writing experience, which is hilarious. How did that even happen?The rest of the writer's room is otherwise extremely green like Chaz or has a bunch of nothing credits.
>>2441374>>2441389>>2441400>ever watching a tv adaptation of a setting you likeCould not be me, I try to limit the amount my mind brain gets raped by modern society.
>>2441374yeah, its pretty good despite the loads of fag filler fanfics i wish new vegas had more meat, compared to a lot of other factions in owb it feels underwhelming
>>2441406Eh, the Space Marine 2 episode in Extra Level was good, and I hear people liked Arcane. It can't be all bad.But what >>2441400 said sounds bad. And I saw a clip of the girlboss MC correcting some Caesar's Legion guys on the pronunciation of 'Caesar', which kinda turned me off the series altogether.
>>2441409>girlboss MC correcting some Caesar's Legion guys on the pronunciation of 'Caesar'Reading that was physically painful.
ACW feel easier for Biden than it used to be? I couldn't ever do Steele in time before even while trying but this time I got it with time to spare while playing casually and trying to take it slow
>>2441321>I can guarantee you that strategy isn't what draws players in.Show us the legions of tiktok zoomers who play fortnite and valorant suddenly nerding out about changing map colors in HOI.You can't.
>>2441409I haven't watched much of that warhammer animated stuff by gw, i'm sure some of it is good but I don't trust them and I'd rather not have my bias confirmed by seeing whatever fucking shit they have shovelled in. I saw the Iron Warrior thing where that Imperial Guard girlbosses instead of surrender like her captain and, predictably, survives instead of her captain because Iron warriors somehow don't want obedient slaves. It was the most obvious expectations subverted shit with the least applicable legion.>space marine 2Sidenote but fuck primaris and fuck the pajeeta ig colonel. I liked the game though, even if Mark Strong's voice being absent was sorely felt.
>>2441421Maybe. The last game I had was a total Trumpkrieg so I wouldn't know.
>>2441419It's literally a thing that happens.
>>2440800I can see the 'waifu' events and can understand why the TFR guys decided to crack down when they still had the chance.>California: cat boy. Normal people think it's weird an ambiguously aged (lol) teenage boy is hanging out with a bear and that the APLA sounds like some sexually frustrated gay man's fantasy but the commies sure like it.>DRUMP: a big tittied blonde who really likes guns and blowing shit up. She's also a tradwife... SOMEHOW. By far and away, the only thing resembling a 'normal' character. >Biden: black girl boss whose also lesbian. Multiple steam commentors swear this should be a Trump thing but they get quickly hushed up. Pissed off all the time, that's like her only character trait. >Patriot Front: a very exhaustively detailed man. The perfect Aryan who... Wait... This isn't the APLA!>Confederacy: >>2440548While the Atomwaffen flavor had some genuinely well written events like pic related and >>2439976 but the guy was clearly writing with one hand.
>>2441487Forgot the pic.
>>2441487>>2441488What if the BLA, the Redneck Revolt, the KKK... What if they were all unwitting pawns in Tariq Nasheed's master plan to make his magical realm a reality? Hear me out: the BLA's perfectly fine with buckbreaking but they want to flip the traditional roles, the KKK practices buckbreaking as a tradition, and the Maoists might adopt some 'reeducational breaking' techniques. The only real inconsistency is Florida due to Atomwaffen's liking for trannys but they die off half the time anyway.
>>2441409>>2441419>>2441486>And I saw a clip of the girlboss MC correcting some Caesar's Legion guys on the pronunciation of 'Caesar'She tells them that they pronounce his name the German way. In reality they actually pronounce "Caesar" the Latin way but with a strong English accent. German pronounciation is "Kaiser" and different from "Caesar". While the Legion makes that error due to the accent, this is perfectly in character and wouldn't be unrealistic.She also rambles about "Prima Noctis" and I hate every fantasy """author""" trying to tell us this was ever a thing. "Muh middle ages were le bad!" No and you should fucking kill yourself. The supposed legal right of a lord to fuck some random women on their wedding night has a few total recorded accounts. ALL of these accounts are either highly ambiguous or have very little credibility.You think the deeply catholic population that was willing to start civil wars over something like a minor tax increase was just ok with their wives getting fucked by their ruler on their wedding night for centuries?The practice most likely never existed. If it did there would be an extensive number of accounts but there is unironically like 4 of them.t. German who studied Latin and history
>>2441486Doesn't make it any less painful.
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Can we get some hype for Kalterkrieg going?
>>2441692It's not collapsing below zero like TNO but rather staying stagnant at zero. That's something.
>>2441506>She also rambles about "Prima Noctis"Why? That practice is irrelevant for both the Roman Empire and Caesar's Legion.
>>2441711Because one of the Legion chuds mentions it first. The practice is irrelevant alltogether since it never happened.
>>2441407It has "too important" syndrome, where noone is allowed to work on it because if they cannot fuck it up. Same reason why 3L in Kaiserreich, Equus in EAW or a lot of the Cannor majors in Anbennar haven't been updated. If someone is going to do something with it, its going to take a lot of time and it HAS to be high quality.
>>2441606>>2441765I had no idea that Kalterkrieg was actually this garbage and deserving of mockery. You're right that they're smug libs of the same variety that TNO has and that all posts come across like nudevs that drool over the opportunity to remove anything interesting from that mod. The comment about wanting to remove the more interesting Union of Britain fail state in bitter anger that people find it more interesting than your generic centrist slop in particular reeks of TNO dev behavior. Ultimately though at least they're not harming anything that matters so I guess that's why no one pays attention to it. TNO has a-logs because it was a mod with a passionate fanbase that was destroyed while Kalterkrieg was always garbage. I
>>2441506>>2441741Mel Gibson has done untold damage to people's understanding of the past
>>2441799The thing that makes KRG so fun to mock is how much it's a JUSTed mod. It's like TNO was an acomplished eceleb that fell off, KRG is like a lolcow that never had a chance but still acts insufferable>Spend 6 years in development (2018-2024), during that period it was hijacked by the current NAFOite team>still release with missing loc in news events, countries you're just not supposed to win (Russia/Mittelafrika) and countries that the entire gameplay is a decision electoral minigame >narrative is non-existent, writing is just vanilla-tier, not a single memorable character>bitch and moan that people want more than being on rails and being told 'you're not supposed to win'>not a single new tree TWO FUCKING YEARS after release, TNO had already added an entire economy system by now>STILL act smug and unsufferable about your amazing content and how dumb people are for not getting the point and that's a free mod and so it's free from citicisim and you get the point
>>2441820OK that makes complete sense when you put it like that. Like a niche lolcow that has a lot of lore under the surface that's just one major crashout away from going mainstream.>Spend 6 years in development (2018-2024) >during that period it was hijacked by the current NAFOite team>>STILL act smug and unsufferable about your amazing content and how dumb people are for not getting the point and that's a free mod and so it's free from citicisim and you get the pointIt really sounds like an alternate timeline where the TNO nudevs hijacked the mod and started reworking Germany before the original release. I think they would've had similar trajectories if that'd happened. Instead TNO gained a lot of support of fans that they then alienated as we all know.Another comparison you could make is that KRG is like a Mix Tape where talentless neoliberals come in on the ground floor while TNO is like a beloved classic that got taken over and rebooted by a soulless corporation.
>>2441440>I'd rather not have my bias confirmed by seeing whatever fucking shit they have shovelled inI hope the Femstodes thing gets shoved in their faces for all eternity.>Iron WarriorsThey killed the captain because he knelt. Nobody is useful on their kneels.
>>2441815Was that actually his fault? I mostly blame nigger authors such as the fat fuck who wrote GoT.
>>2441869Braveheart popularised prima noctis though fat fuck did completely bastardise the War of the Roses.>>2441851>Nobody is useful on their kneelsThey were after slaves, not recruits. Slaves are very much useful on their knees.
I wish they hadn't done the new game + shit for cognoscenti. It's such a good path, but what they hyped up and then asked me to play twice for was that? No more? It makes no difference at all, it's the exact same run but with more flavour. I'm left annoyed and disappointed even though it was really cool and well made. What was even the point of it?
>>2441966>It's the exact sameNigga didn't mindrape the Chinese.
>>2441972Yeah I did. It's -20% div attack and three nice events. Could have been there the first time
>>2441981>It's the same>Yeah except that I unlocked ancient language viruses and magically killed everyone >Doesn't count though Supernatural powers being locked behind NG+ seems perfectly fair desu.
>>2441982Yeah yeah. My point was obvious enough, if you think the writing being kinda out there justifies another otherwise identical playthrough, we disagree
>>2441985It's not identical if you get to unlock magic but I guess we can both agree that they could also have done more. If you're going to unlock the supernatural, you might as well make more with it. If they ever use the feature again (sparingly please) I hope they go further. But I dunno, that could easily become stupid. Hopefully they find a good balance.
Reading /tno/ and seeing some of the last holdouts there is some of the saddest shit there is. No matter how many deadlines are missed, no matter how many times things get reworked from scratch, these people keep holding on to hope that something, anything will release.>Oh there was a leaked build several years ago that showed it almost being done! I bet it's really close now!>Devaryans said it'd be out by Christmas, I'm sure they'll make it this time!>It'd be a really nice Christmas gift if the massively overscoped rework dropped after all these years!The sooner these people move on with their lives the better. At best they'll never get it and at worst it'll drop and be disappointing after a few years with the way things are going. Even if it drops this year, who in their right mind wants black girlboss America and Huttig's deletion?
>>2442002Exactly. A couple more wars would have done it for me, maybe an addition to one of the minigames to make it more demanding now that I know which buttons to press
>>2442020Another thing could be an actual route. Some content that they consider to be shitty like AI Biden could be an unlockable player only feature and I'm sure you could think of ways to have something work with the Cognoscenti's supernatural weapons. But I do hope they don't go too far off the deep end like adding total shitposts or completely outlandish shit. It still has to work in the world that they made.
>>2440799https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOnDps3EtHc>Based uuuuhhhhhh
>>2442019>The sooner these people move on with their lives the better.They would never "move on" there is nothing to move on to. These people are fully demoralized as Yuri would say.
>>2442053There's definitely something to move on to. I know several devs that have. But most of them that were deeply involved in that shit-show usually end up acting like they've left a cult. Maybe it's different for diehard fans since I don't really interact with any of them and there's just no chance of them being normal. Like that person further up in the thread that didn't want strategy in this strategy game.
>>2442053>TNO is a demoralization program born out of delayed fuse Soviet psy-opsThat would at least go some way to explain how thoroughly awful it is.
>>2442070>There's definitely something to move on toFor normal people yes, for them no.
>they buffed exoskeletonsNigga those things were already overpowered, are you trying to make a Loji win the GAW in a fucking month?
>>2442166Used to be until you got the second exo tech it's kind of trash. They were barely better than Light Infantry.
Why do only Russia and China get the option of deploying nukes by decision? The US and France also have nukes but they never get to use them.
>>2442133>Can't move on from Fiji and Denmark GUI reworks without gameplay Then they truly are in hell.
>>2440800There's one on loverslab iirc
Is maintenance company good in TFR? Afaik it is pretty much useless in vanilla.
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>>2442322it was used in pretty much every meta template before this update, its probably still good
>>2442322Pretty much everything good in TFR is an expensive vehicle so you'd be stupid not to have it in your mechanized formations at least.
I doubt it'll happen but it'd be really funny if the schizo Q-poster in general turned out to be right and that TFR actually puts out their DQRK MQGQ update tomorrow and buries the planned TNO dev diary about their US rework.
>>2442401>the schizo Q-posterThere's multiple of us.WWG1WGA.
TFR always announces updates a week in advance so no update. At best, we might get a new toozer and maybe even convince the leaker to show something.
>>2442405How many of you are actual TFR leaq devs?
>>2442407No, I am just a pqtriqt.
>>2442407i don't think the tfr devs lurk the thread, maybe they did when the leaks came out
Is it just me or has the new TFR update completely fucked combat? Playing as China is nightmarish. It takes like a fucking year to beat Myanmar in a war now and you end up losing like 5k casualties per side in an almost endless war of (not) attrition because nobody can do any damage to one another's divisions. inb4 muh encircle; yeah sure retard, encirlce le AI whatever makes you feel epic at the game. Idk wtf is going on but this new update really blows ass.I didn't even bother trying to invade Taiwan because my divisions just couldn't do fuck all and I spent the war just killing the Japanese navy and going afk. Couldn't be fucked taking things to GAW because it felt so shit. Surely I'm not the only one thinking this new balance is poopy as hell?Feels like the game has reached its peak of grind manpower and equipment at the AI's unbreachable rapestack of 32 divions and hope you get a breakthrough.
>>2442184>by decisionYou can as the USA if you go Atomwaffen but only during the civil war.You can as Germany on Russia if you lose 1EW and become WEF ruled European Union.You can as India/Japan during the GAW. IIRC you can MAD as India if you lose the Paki war and get capped in the GAW.Not really sure about France.
>>2441492Tariq should be an advisor for the BLA.>Atomwaffen's liking for trannysOnly those O9A freaks actually like and groom trannies.ATW irl are all in jail or hiding. They don't have time or interest in the less-useful mentally-ill.
>>2442413Skill issue.
>>2442421You will never be white.
>>2442419>ATW and O9AAren't those different groups with some overlap? As in they could pursue the same goals but there are not the same.
>>2442413Uhh, hey retard Myanmar wasn't updated.>nobody can do any damageThere has always been a national ceasefire modifier that does this for the first couple years of the conflict to make it last longer.> inb4 muh encircle; yeah sure retardBraindead take. It's so easy to encircle garbage burmese divisions. The templates they use are crap.>I didn't even bother trying to invade Taiwan >Doesn't play the game on purpose>Gets mad because he doesnt play the game>Couldn't be fucked taking things to GAW>Doesn't play the game on purpose (again)Wow. Are you this guy: >>2441321 ?
>>2442426>Myanmar wasnt updated Turn brain on, retard. I'm saying the new division mechanics are fucked using shitter wars such as Taiwan and Myanmar as an example. The game is currently fucked and you can cope and shart all you like but the update pooped all-over it. Guaranteed you are a larper who doesn't even play the game.
>>2442424I only know about some of O9A's lore due to their members raiding sharty. But at this point in time they are a loose gang of discord pedos schizos and degens.They only co-opted ATW aesthetics to groom kids and retards into their cult. They're cult members who use satanist and nazi aesthetics but have 0 standards for ideology.They don't have much overlap at all, since Joshua Caleb Sutter, the guy who forced O9A shit into ATW circles is/was a literal FBI informant.James Mason, Brandon Russel, etc, all the ATW guys in jail right now know about this and hate O9A.
>>2442427I just played a Lafayette game with the new update and the combat is way better. You're a massive homo (who posted here two days ago crying about the same shit) who hates strategy games in general and can't adapt.>Guaranteed you are a larper who doesn't even play the game.I'm playing an ATW game right now actually
>>2442426I'm 100% sure he's the anti strategy game/TNO guy. He might become another thread cryptid.>>2442423>>2442427Skill issue.
>>2442439>>2442440Can't believe more than one person thinks the new update is dogshit. Fucking unbelievable literally insane. Must be some kind of schizophrenic madman. No way on this Earth does more than one person disagree with me!
>>2442443The TNOver poster used the same argument.
>>2442443You're using the same arguments, don't know how to play the game and get wrecked by a third world country with crap militia templates. Of course people will think you're the same tard that can't play HOI4 and wants easy modes.
>>2442443Post your template
>>2442457in b4 it's a shitty starter template or he typed in xp in the console and gave himself a 60w tank division that attrits to death in jungles.
>he fled again
TNO is not sending their best.
Any country and path recommendations to try out the combat system?
>>2442533I'd try out either ACW federal tag. You get to try out all unit types quick.
>Not promising anything huge for July 4th, but you’ll see an old friend paired with a new announcementTNO is making a big announcement tomorrow. Yockey returning? Panzer back as lead? Huttig returning to Africa?
ARE (YOU) TRUSTING THE PLAN?
>>2442413No, you just have shit for brains. I played the GAW twice since the update and I curbstomped china both times. You can certainly do it without even being in the war, just volunteering.
>>2442536I don't know, I feel it's better to actually get to play around with templates and not to judge things off random pre-designed shitters>>2442533Any european or russian path
JVLY QTH NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT IS COMINGQ
Shut the fuck up nigger
>>2442539No simply gay sex will be made mandatory in tnocord
>>2442650PQTRIQT>>2442655l*beral
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>>2442655Get a load of this Congoscenti deep state asset.>>2442657Isn't it already?
>>2442417India isn't playable though. That's my point. Honestly the decision to have Japan be the playable opponent to China instead of India is really strange.France can't use their nukes. There was some kind of miscommunication between whoever made France's content and the overall director because they didn't get the memo that nukes can only be used by decision. France actually gets focuses that give them nukes and the ability to build more nukes, but the game rules block normal nukes from being deployed which means they can't be used. I still don't understand how this hasn't been fixed.
>>2442694I want TFR to add the amazing India content TNO killed. BEF cannibal Holocaust and BurgSys Devi India would've been so lit. TFR must correct these wrongs.
>>2442662If he took this photo at <10% bodyfat then he would have converted at least tumblr girl into White Nationalism.
>>2442700*at least one
Even if we can't MAGA tomorrow in TFR at least we'll be able to Make America A Thing Again in ERX.
>>2442697If they should change anything in the indian subcontinent, I want to see a different outcome for the mini-pakistan civil war instead of just "China intervenes and BTFOs all the non muslims"
>>2442714The nuclear apocalypse should have more consequences if it happens too for both countries. Both becoming radioactive wastelands would actually be fun. India has the population to absorb it and still be "functional".
Yeah I just finished the ACW as Atomwaffen. This guy >>2442443 is a huge baby it's maybe a bit easier than before rather than harder.APCs are viable now thank fucking god, Mechanized trades against infantry more and can't 1v3 your line holding divisions like it used to as long as you have AT, Motorized feels soooo much better now, and best of all mechanized is slower so if the AI's mechanized is giving you trouble it's not impossible to catch up to them anymore.
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>>2442725The cheaper units actually being viable must be a big book to shitholes like AWD. When I played them rushing and out manoeuvering the opposition was often the only viable strategy and it sounds like you can actually go for it now without cheesing as hard.
>>2442725>>2442728Is AWD more fun to play now too?
>>2442746It's the same focuses and stuff for now but it's definitely less of an uphill battle now.You still have to plan your focus pathing somewhat and make sure you pick up as many divisions as possible.
>>2441820oh, just one more thingit's absolutely funny how the most common 'defense' of the mod being boring and empty you see around is >they just needed more time to cook; it's just the 0.1 release, they'll add more content soonand guess what focus trees they've added in the two years since releasenothinglooking in the teaser channel, they had an ireland toozer before the mod released and no new teasers that go 'this country will have context next' since
New teaser dropped for the good version of TNO. A very American, capitalist theme for the 4th, very nice.
>>2442749What are some good early to mid game templates you'd recommend for them? Really the problem with them is that it's just punishing to the point where it's just not fun especially when your industry is shit and the only viable template was IFV spam if you wanted a fair fight.
>>2442753Duplicate the crappy tank division you get for free, replace the tank with 1 Mechanized.After you do a few of the industrial focuses so you aren't making only 1 gun per month, make a line for light mechanized and add 2 APCs to that.Secondarily, b-line it to the Special Security Divisions focuses whenever possible since raw motorized can hold your line better than militia and you get an entire army group worth of them in the focuses.
>>2442757I want to add, ATW is still not 100% easy. You can get really unlucky and AI China sends (literally) 20 volunteers to shove up your ass. Happened to me and I just beat APLA by the skin of my teeth.Siding with the NF is still easier than trying to fight them from the start you just need to win slower with them on your side.
I saw APCs got buffed but is it not still better to just dump all your factories on IFVs anyway?
>>2442767As I've examined across 2 games so far (1 in europe and 1 in america), APCs deal a lot more Soft Attack but have less armor while IFVs have more Hard Attack but have more armor, so mixing them both in the same division gives the greatest effect.For the non-shithole countries, APCs should go in your tank divisions where you used to put Motorized (if at all) and you could sprinkle some Mechanized in there if that's what you fancy.
So is the point of these changes to try to bring TFR closer to vanilla balancing (ie most of your army is an infantry meatwall with all the tanks concentrated in one or two armies as spearheads), with the difference that since it's modern, the meatwall is mechanized rather than foot infantry?
>>2442762>You can get really unlucky and AI China sends (literally) 20 volunteers to shove up your ass. Happened to me and I just beat APLA by the skin of my teeth.I once saw People's Heavenly Republic send volunteers to ATW lmao.
>>2442762It being hard as nails is fine. A positive, even. I just want it to be a fun challenge and not just a total slog.>>2442781No, it's more like a traditional strategy game with more units having viable use cases and there being more options for speedy, high-breakthrough tactics.
Cold War Iron Curtain: A World Divided Update TomorrowMeawhile read the changelogUpdate 0.4 Changelog (Very incomplete)0.4 Detente - ChangelogNewTank DesignerDemobilisation mechanicNew economic crisis systemDomestic and international lendingMonetary New economic tab with loans, crises & economy detailsNew economic laws - Education, Military spending, etcNew Pops system - Religion, employment, cultureNew state view UIWest Germany ReworkEast Germany ReworkNew space mechanic (Skeleton)New Soviet contentNew five year plan for Stalin treeNew Indochina FocusesNorth VietnamSouth Vietnam Nung MeoMontagnard Country French Far East ArmyPhu Dai ArmySlight Rework for CambodiaNew Malaysia Content - FocusesSarawak North Borneo BruneiMoroc SonghratiWhite MalayaRed Malaya got 2 new routes of Syndicalist and Pro Indonesian Leftist NationalistsNew Indonesia contentIndonesia civil war mechanicsIndonesia focus tree 1949-1953Thailand Focus ReworkRepublic of China Submod integration and improvementsNew Philippines contentTibet Focus TreeHukbalahap (Filipino communist) treeAnti-communist mechanic featuring border wars, decisions and raids Latin America Content - Dominican Republic -1960s Historical Focus Tree 1972-80 Historical Balaguer Focus Tree African Content-1949 Historical Liberia Focus Tree-1950s Portugal-1960s South AfricaImprovementsAfrican Decolonization SkeletonSmall rework to Stalin foreign policiesOver a 1000 (or so) new high-quality portraitsOverhauled all Starting Portraits (1949 and 1980)New Subideology Icons and Texticon PicturesMaoism and Marxism-Leninism were renamed to Heterodox and Orthodox Marxism-Leninism, respectively.Removed outdated or poor quality trees - Syria , GhanaCut ~1000 deprecated iconsSlight rework and expanded foreign diplomatic tree for France and Americaoverhauled 3d models
>>2442781Sort of. Light Infantry trades with the different types of mechanized now but you need to outnumber the mechanized to push them. Having AT helps a ton to even the playing field, but at that point you are just IC inefficient. Playing in America/early game is a way different story since you can't afford to have all mechanized everywhere all the time like in Europe.TL:DRInfantry can trade with Mechanized more and Mech isn't a great all-arounder anymore. ACW factions are poor so switching your entire frontline off infantry is hard. Elsewhere you should mix and match APCs+IFVs because you usually can afford it.
July 4 has come and gone, and no DQRK MQGQ update. I fear the worst
>>2442804It's still the third of July in the only part of America that matters.
>>2442804Nigga it isn't even the 4th in any part of the continental USA yet what the fuck are you talking about
>>2442815I'm no good with timezones.
>>2442804It's over.
Just from playing around in the div designer I'm getting the impression post-patch the best all-rounder might be APCs + SPGs. You might get something marginally better by using IFVs + Tanks + MLRS but it will be much more expensive so I don't see how it's worth it.
>>2442837Does the AI use divisions that make the SPG hard attack worth it?
>>2442804>>2442817>I'm no good with timezones.That's a whole day off there, bud.
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>>2442837I just tested something.Making an absolute bare bones Gen 3 Light Tank with 4 armor, Small Caliber Gun II and the shittiest possible modules, it has 5x the armor and higher stats than Basic SPG for almost .40 IC less (6.64).I really don't know what to make of this. Probably that SPG is shit, but since Artillery tech and doctrines give them soft attack bonuses maybe they are actually better than on paper.If this is true, Recon Tanks could be superior for an "all rounder" unit in many respects.>>2442859The AI makes SPGs and half decent tanks. Especially Russia.There is one thing to keep in mind though, SPGs have the shittiest armor values between IFVs, APCs and MBTs.
HOLY SHIT
>>2442872https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGYxlMXCzXE
>>2442872Fuck. I didn't want to stay awake longer tonight.Enjoy the update eurobros. I'm taking a nap.
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>>2442868Artillery being vulnerable to damage is pretty standard but they're also less likely to be hit if I recall correctly so as long as your front line units are alive they won't be as likely to take strength damage.I could just be misremembering though in which case oof.
I'm a larper, I don't care what the actual stats are. IRL, armies use three kinds of ground units - light (motorized infantry), medium (mechanized infantry in wheeled IFVs - TFR calls them APCs for some reason despite usually having the exact same weaponry as tracked IFVs), and heavy (Tanks + tracked IFVs). I do the same - light divisions are on garrison duty, medium divisions hold the line, heavy divisions are the attack spearheads. It's not production efficient and costs a pile of XP to setup but it makes it feel real.
>>2442791>The Qspammer was advertising a big new CWIC update all alongBrilliant marketing to be honest.
>>2442872Lies
>>2442804TRQST THE PLQN
Nigga It hasn't even released what are you talking about
>>2442791>Latin America Content - Dominican Republic -1960s Historical Focus Tree1972-80 Historical Balaguer Focus TreeAfrican Content-1949 Historical Liberia Focus Tree-1950swho the FUCK asked for this?
>>2442895Same, I do something similar with support companies even if it is not meta (which I have never actually learned).
>>2442970TNO-tier to be honest. Normally a lot of the questionable decisions could've been fixed by just not being overscoped and requiring focus trees for irrelevant time periods but there's no saving this.
>>2442975I've posted before here that the project was doomed when they didn't just pick one or two decades of the Cold War to do, ideally the fifties and sixities. All their effort should have been focused on filling out those years for the majors and only when the main players of WW2 have their trees and content should they expand to minors and even then it should be the actually influential ones such as Vietnam, India, Pakistan, Israel, South Africa. The fact that the best Cold War is Red Dusk is like a bad joke. I genuinely, unequivocally, do not get the appeal of cwic as it currently stands and I am a massive Cold War autist.
>>2442981Same, I've played CWIC on and off for years and every time I do it feels like it's just at the cusp of being good, but still falls way short. Then I start again after a few years and have the same experience. Then again, and again. Last time I did this was two years ago and I really don't have much hope left for it. Red Dusk really did the right thing by homing in on one period. CWIC should've done the same. Slice one of their massive flowcharts into a third and work from there.
Ok so whose house are we storming now that Q spammer lied to us
Anyone played East Showdown? Seemed interesting. Tried it but it's quite a mess with a lot to figure out and a lot that doesn't seem right or finished, and I can't really find anything about it online. Tried Donetsk and somehow failed completely. Pushed my lines forward until suddenly, seemingly overnight, Ukraine both outnumbered and outgunned the entire CSTO hard enough to steamroll every front and they pushed Russia to Crimea, to Kazakhstan, and almost to Moscow. No idea what I would change for a second try.
>>2442791I love how the devs removed nazi path and replaced it with an incomplete lame broken path. Not surprised since well troon behavior and Nu-TNOism.
>>2443047Last time I tried it the Nazi path several years ago it seemed so interesting: you had to work to undermine the state and break it from within, allowing for a coup following your betrayal of the system.... Then absolutely fucking nothing happened and no one even reacted to the 3rd Reich rising again and it was the biggest letdown I've ever had in HOI4. How fucking bad can the new one even be?
>>2442791>economic crises>demobilization>moneylending>pops>state viewer>nung (what is a nung?)>tibet>decolonization>portrait remakesRight.. I guess there's an audience for this somewhere, I hope they enjoy it
>>2434589>To celebrate the 4th of July, here's a little icon showcase for The Base!
>>2443062would they even still celebrate it?
>>2443052It's an broken and unfinished mess on purpose. I was legit gonna play Germany for the Socialist Reich path but I asked an AI about it and terms out it's an shitty buggy mess.There goes another mod down the drain. Has old outdated Fascist Italy content, and has no Imperial Japan content.Peak troon.>>2443055It's basically turning to "OTLism only simulator" enjoy sitting their for hours just to get OTLism.
>>2443062VGH...
I love TFR's GFX.
>>2443063Anyone know what the runes in the presumably AWD related focus icon says?
>>2443068I might be coping for having forgotten the rune writing I learned in school, but I'm not sure it's real writing here. I don't recognize the rune that looks like an L.
>>2443068>>2443076Also, wouldn't the second word be EL-EL? I'm tired but it's not making much sense to me right now
>>2443055Jesus Christ, when you put it like that it really just reads like another bunch of morons that fell for the hoax that you can turn HOI4 into Victoria 2. When are people going to learn? The downfall of TNO is a clear enough sign that this doesn't work.>There's an audience for this somewhereYes, and it's called Victoria. A game which simulates a lot of these features naturally and much better than HOI4. That's why people who want to experience that play that game instead and end up getting a better experience.WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN?>>2443064I never got this type of player. Just read about a country on Wikipedia then. Who boots up HOI4 just to read a dramatized version of someone's Wikipedia page intro?
>>2443068>>2443076>>2443081Fuck me. It says "Hotline Miami" in fake runes, doesn't it? I'm fucking retarded, goddamn.
>>2443098Kek, it would make sense.
>>2443098Seems like it, pretty clever.
>>2442539... Turns out that it was just some NASA events.
>>2443171Grim.
>>2443171>>2443194They released a teaser for their US teaser. A dev in /tno/ is saying that this isn't a cope since the US rework's scope also encompasses adding in OTL Africa. This is beyond grim.
Iron Curtain just updated.
>>2443215The superior nothing ever happening mod crushing TNO.
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>>2443224That's so fucking bleak man. Even TNO fans don't deserve this.
>>2443224>>2443228LMAO the devs are now doing damage control saying that the promised announcement didn't count.
>>2442985I have a distinct memory of playing the UK, setting everything up for a conflict with either West or East due to my intention to hold the Suez, I set up paras and marines in Cyrpus ready to decimate the Egyptian frontlines, I sent armour and airforce to the canal and had the navy ready to bombard their shores. The Crisis happened and the otl outcome forced itself without any option from me to do anything about it. What a fucking braindead dev team.
>>2443254
New ERX update is out.
>>2443254>TNO's greatest enduring legacy after deleting all it's content is being used as a reference of a failed mod
>>2443256If TFR doesn't release DQRK MQGQ today then it's offficial: ERX wins 4th of July with CWIC as a distant runner-up for at least putting out an update.Got a change log by the way?
>>2443269ADDED -New Characters and interactions, both from OWB and ERX-Remember our Past now gives 20% War Support-OWB gambling mechanic from Reno now available when your disguised as Reno-Canada focus tree and storyline until the Aurora Accords bombing-Mexico focus tree and storyline including the three endings-Automation events, including Robot Liberation events-Legion Trial Events-Yellowstone interactions-Watoga Free Stater interactions-NCR Pacification GUI-Judicial GUI-Congress GUI-Added Congress and laws you must pass-Executive GUI-Overhauled ERB Executive branch-Added NEW Executive branch with new departments you must juggle-Overhauled Commonwealth branch and decisions-Commonwealth Decision Category Rework-Reworked Powergrid + Install Police GUI-Reworked Hoover Dam GUI + Decision Category-Reworked DEFCON Decision Category-Reworked Military Installation Decision Category-Cooldown system for DoD focuses-Small revamp for the Vice President view-Tooltips and QoL improvements to various part of the focus tree-Visual improvement to Political Infighting Decision Category-Overhauled DOD branch to now be more dynamic and re-added new focuses.-Added 1000+ new events and decisions to the mod-New Models-Nevada Tourism Pre-NCR IF you choose to disguise as New Reno-NCR Civil War content - Thanks Pilgrim-NCR Resistance - Thanks Deez and Pilgrim, BIG HELP-Post-Caeser content - Thanks Des! : D-New QOL and visual improvements - Thanks Deez!-Interaction with several Native American Nations through the Bureau of Indian Affairs-Reconcile Mt. Rushmore with its original owners-Contact the Western Apache and unleash them on the Legion-Maybe condem Tasmania to a Fantastic Existence-Several new Corporations to restore, from known Fallout ones to ones I had to make updates-Contain the catastrophe at Dayglow, and discover the origins of the S'Lanter
>>2443271Sounds like a bunch of wishy washy reformer gayshit.
>>2443275Main dev is one of those anti-Purist faggy types. Gonna be a bit until the Purists get some love in the Monroe update.
>>2443254>>2443255>>2443257
>>2443280Czar was a hero, I just couldn't see it.
>You don't lap up Amazon's turds and ask for seconds? Heh, okay you fragile chudcel. Aristotle is not wrong about the existence of natural slaves.
>>2443271Thank you anon!>>2443280The TNOfication of TFR is real...
>>2443284Wow. You know, I'm not even the biggest fallout fan and I don't care for the show I know it's just goyslop, but this event enrages me for some reason.I feel motivated to make a mod patch just to fix this gay shit."[Hotfix] OWB ERX Player Respect Restored" or something like that, just rewrite the events to dog on the mod creators for taking a diarrhea dump all over the players of their mod. Maybe even adjust the goyflix adapted content so that it makes fun of itself instead of being a big middle finger to people that don't chug soimilk by the carton.
>>2443284I wouldn't mind TV show content if it was good. It isn't. And then this condescending shit?At least ERX is not needed for the submods. Only ERB is.
meanwhile in Pride and Fall
>>2443310I love this mod just for existing. It injects so much joy into the community.
>>2443221How much of it is nothing ever happens? I know it's a cold war mod focused on USSR and US but there must be some way to start WP vs NATO war.
>>2443320I don't know but the scope of the mod means that you can technically have 40-50 years of nothing.
>>2443320>>2443326By the way 40 years of nothing and a peaceful resolution would be seen as an ideal win state.
>>2443320I unironically want a socialist/communist path for LOS.
>>2443329Isn't that just RR
>>2443333Yeah but you lose the Southern Nationalism angle.
>>2443347Don't think that could work without feeling incredibly forced without rewriting multiple tags but maybe I'll be proven wrong one day.
THE FIRE RISES - v1.0.10 "The Storm" Changelog-- AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT --- NEW PATH: The Dark Mandate- GFX improvements-- UNION OF AMERICA --- GFX improvements-- COMMON USA --- New pre-war flavor events-- EUROPE --- NewTRVST THQ PLQN QTRIQTS
>>2443354The mod hasn't updated the Steam page still says that it was last patched on the 30th but nice try.
>>2443354I checked the mod's page....
>/vst/ slowly learns that a shitposter mimicking a meme from 2020 may in fact just be a shitposter having a laugh
>PF marching in DCPretty soon it's gonna be brazenly unrealistic for the PF to not just be an ACG subbranch.
>>2443388New loading screen/event photo just dropped.
>>2443284So fucking gay
>>2443393Kino
>>2443393Holy shit yes. This is the PF America I want.
>>2443388>>2443393>>2443434She is giving "the look".
>>2443388>PF to not just be an ACG subbranch.PF doesn't align at all with Trump though.
Playing the Cold War mod right now, is it just me or is the economy completely broken?
Boogaloo boys teaser is out
>>2443062>That train focus iconThe indepth genocide mechanics are going to be immaculate.
>>2443453Well share that shit nigga
>>2443457over file limit
>>2443461Shrink it using this https://www.freeconvert.com/gif-compressor
>>2443393She looks entirely unbothered
>>2443310CUM ON SCORE SUM FOCKIN GOALS
>>2443463here
>>2443472>The unique mechanic wasn't scrappedNice.
>>2443472could someone post a catbox link to the boog superevent they posted a well?
>>2443472>Magnus PanvidyaWho the fuck is this guy (faggot)?
>>2443473they made some impressive progress, looks like 1.1 really might come this year>>2443475https://files.catbox.moe/5tfo9q.mp4
>>2443472Those focus icons are really cool
>>2443487>https://files.catbox.moe/5tfo9q.mp4Can't wait to 'liberate' the American people and make the Founding Fathers proud.
>>2443472>TNO puts out a teaser for a future US teaser >Reworking space programs again >TFR shows off huge additions to America, Boogs looking great >Content coming soon!Niggas can't just stop taking Ls to TFR.
>>2443472>The Kekoas made sure Ted Kaczynski died like the dog he was. They filled his IV with bleach and watched him thrash. Carrillo still sometimes pulls the video up, Dunn thinks it's hilarious. Uncle Tedbros...
>>2443501It's ok, Teddy will burn them for heat in the winter in a mirror event.
>>2443472Based off Carrillo, Dunn. and Panvidya's descriptions the Boog boys could have three subpaths with Dunn being the starting one and the other two couping him.
>>2443506im gonna take a look on the build later to see if it was already done by then
>>2443501I'll avenge him in my Mike Ma run and give them Vlad the Impaler treatment using cacti.
>>2443491>TNO announces a future dev diary with teasers until it's announced>DEAD MOD>TFR just puts out a Boogalo Boys teaser no update or playable DARG MAGA content like you were all hyping up for the last month>WOW THIS IS SO GOOD HUGE PROGRESS IM CUMMINGyou people are cattle
>>2443516>>WOW THIS IS SO GOOD HUGE PROGRESS IM CUMMINGI say this.
TOTA isn't dead btw
>>2443516TNO's last major US update predates TFR beginning development so I'm not sure if you want to play this game. Also yes, releasing something substantial >>> announcing an announcement.
>>2434589>Wanted to show you guys some of the boog art that you can find in the teaser, High Quality. This is somewhat you won't find elsewhere! Most probably never, so... Enjoy!
>>2443525But it's not something substantial it's a teaser. That is less than the playable content you guys have been clamoring for the last month
>>2443527Sick. Your local mailman is just as much of a tyrant as your senator, and the Tree of Liberty is thirsty for tyrannical blood.
>>2443516>TNO hasn't released a full update that wasn't just skeletons or GUI slop in three years>Bitches and moralizes about other mods that have had major releases within the past several monthsSome humility would spare you from a lot of this treatment, you know.
>>2443528Unlike TNO's content we know that DQRK MQGQ and more will realistically release in the near future and we know this because they have managed to release major paths not too long ago. Having a good look at an upcoming ACW faction is also just fun and no one's going to be upset with that.
>>2443450Its a crash fest for me.
>>2443528It is substantial though. It's a teaser that gives us a lot of insight into the Boogaloo Boys, how they function, hints at them having at least three sub paths, and shows off their unique gameplay mechanic. Now of course it's not substantial as an actual update, but as far as teasers go it's a pretty big and meaty one. Definitely going to be one of the first paths I check out when the update drops.
>>2443532Are you playing an update today? Or did you just get a hotfix with no release in sight. I played a TNO update a bit ago where’s yours?
>>2443535>>2443537>a new update will come out because it’s happened before!!!>im perfectly happy with a teaser!!!!You realize you guys sound exactly like TNO fans
>>2443542>>im perfectly happy with a teaser!!!!Yes because it looks good and I know it's actually going to release instead of being trapped in rework hell for eternity. I'm sorry whatever mod you're a fan of is so dead in the water that they can't even put out at least mildly interesting teasers anymore.
>>2443542The difference is that TNO's last full update was in 2023 and they're currently reworking the entire mod from scratch while TNO has released full paths with unique post-war content for majors within the past year. This is a terrible cope on your part.
>>2443539Pointing out that TFR is compatible with the new DLC while your mod isn't is hardly the own you think it is, dev. Especially when the "update" you talked about is just a facelift for Iberia's half decade old content partly meant to prepare it for you adding in OTL Africa.
>>2443547So mad you miss typed. TM was a full update. So was The Crow and The Bull. Where’s 1.1? TFR is doing the same thing and delaying the literal first part of their roadmap.
>>2443548>everyone I don’t like is TNO DEV. TFR definitely isn’t going down the same pathWhere’s 1.1? Where’s the literal first update in your roadmap. IF TFR is so good at churning out content why can’t they get a like 5 tag update out? Is it because the team is disorganized and only random side-projects can get released?
>>2443550>>2443551>Does whataboutism over 1.1>His own mod has failed with every single step of its road map with the exception of Guangdong and adding an economy systemHe who casts the first stone...
Stop arguing with the guy posting bait. The boog mechanic was already leaked by the git guys months ago. This shows work is being done. While the average TNO leak is about how they scrapped everything and need to start from scratch.
>>2443550>>2443551Where Brazil?
>>2443553It's either that or flowcharts for tags that won't release for several years and likely will get reworked again before that happens anyway.
>>2443552>>2443552I’m very specifically pointing out how TFR is in the process of doing the exact same thing as TNO.
>>2443551>Where’s the literal first update in your roadmapThe first update in the 'roadmap' (TFR doesn't really have one) was Real American, 1.1 is like the seventh (not counting the Dark MAGA update which will release before it) sizeable update post release. I don't know why you're acting like TFR hasn't released any notable updates since release.
>>2443554Brazil has two of its promised routes released a year or so ago? That thing was delayed by several years but it did eventually release at least. It even had a war but for some reason they also said it "wasn't canon" though maybe that was just if nukes were used regionally.
>>2443554Played it last year. Where’s Cascadia?
>>2443556At least you're admitting that your mod has failed. Instead of wishing that everyone was brought down to your level, however, you'd be better off trying to uplift your mod from its current quagmire.
>>2443557Where is Dark MAGA? Where’s 1.1? Why has that update speed slowed down?
>>2443560It’s not my mod. I just dislike how smug TFR fans act like they don’t act the same way as TNO fans
>>2443556>TFR is in the process of doing the exact same thing as TNO.I'll believe this when they throw out whole swaths of in development content and turn the mod into a wannabe VN.
>>2443561There's been a constant stream of major updates every few months such as France, WEF and Cognoscenti. And you really need to stop inviting comparisons to your own mod since the Germany rework alone has been in rework hell for half a decade with no release date in sight.
>>2443563
>>2443564Well first they’d have to figure out how to write events before they can make it a VN lol. But my point still stands. Technically they DID rework a bunch of content like last year there was a HUGE dev schism and coup the exact same thing you guys hate about TNO happened.
>>2443472>>2443527Does this art style used in the focuses have a name?
>>2443566Wow good thing every critic of TFR is just Mango in disguise otherwise we might have to think for once phew
>>2443568>Well first they’d have to figure out how to write events Already have, sorry it's not endless event chains about the struggles of black gay transwomen like you're used to.>there was a HUGE dev schism and coupThe Czar drama was ultimately a nothing burger since not a single dev of note was lost and the mod has put out good updates since the retard and his buttbuddies were kicked to the curb. The same can not be said for TNO which has been circling the drain for years now. The Chinese devs being vanned was infinitely more impactful.
>>2443568>Huge schism>It's just one guy and some friends trying to pull antics and they're all thrown out within a few days>99% of the team went with the current devs
>>2443570Everyone knows that they send out their jannies to do damage control here.
>>2443572>>2443573Still they threw out a bunch of time and effort that had been spent on those devs plans since Czar had elevated them to head dev positions. If the exact same thing happened with TNO you’d bring it up every day. Plus saying it doesn’t matter because the new content is better is the exact same thing you mock people for doing with TNO reworks.And don’t act like TFR is acclaimed for its writing cmon half that shit is Russian MTL
>>2443574You got me I’m actually Quidproquo you retarded faggot
>>2443576>Czar's half-started MENA focus trees and AI Hitler plan is the same thing as reworking entire continents from scratch and gayopping your own team for years>Everything should be judged by 1.0 NSM and not the new standards set in subsequent releasesAll your comparisons just make you look worse. Stop dude.
>>2443576>If the exact same thing happened with TNOBut it did. And much worse, too.
>>2443576>Still they threw out a bunch of time and effort that had been spent on those devs plans since Czar had elevated them to head dev positionsThe only thing any effort was really wasted on was the now scrapped NSM rework, the Middle East shit was worked on exclusively by Czar's friends and the shit that leaked looked barely worked on so clearly not that much effort and time was used up.>because the new content is better is the exact same thing you mock people for doing with TNO reworks.Well when TNOfags say it, it's cope because the new shit is almost always worse. Here it actually is an improvement, I don't know about you but I think an AI Hitler path for the NSM is fucking stupid and I'd rather get a Strasserist path.
>>2443565>france Buggy as hell and is being re reworked>Wef>CognoscentiBoth are good don’t get me wrong but tfr is almost 2 years old and it’s embarrassing that’s all they have to show so far
>>2443580>>2443582Fine don’t complain here when they spend 2+ years on a neverending Atomwaffen and NSM rework and you still haven’t gotten to play Mike Ma.
>>2443584You are making the exact same judgment you mock people for when they go “ohhh DV is obviously better because the old Africa content is so out of date”
>>2443585>>2443586>Your mod could possibly become as bad as mine if you stop all progress right now and then continue to stand still for several years like I haveHoly cope
>>2443569not really, its a mix of vaporwave style and glitch effects from what i can make out though.the style is also exclusive to the boogaloo boys, no other tags have a similar art style
>>2443585Isn't the Germany rework well over twice as long in dev time as TFR is from release to now?
>>2443588>Deleting several tags of content and replacing it with OTL slop is the same thing as Czar not getting to add AI Hitler to an existing pathWhat the fuck kind of reasoning is this?
>>2443589You are at the exact moment in TNOs lifespan when they stood still and you are still waiting for 1.1. You are coping if you think you also couldn’t be unlucky
>>2443591Germany has been reworked since 2021, TFR released just before the 2024 elections. So it's actually more than twice as old, it predates TFR as a concept.
>>2443590The 'A Truly American Experiment' focus for AOF uses a similar aesthetic, but besides that only Boogaloo Boys utilize it so far.
>>2443594>stood still>toozer a few posts aboveOne of the above statements is a lie.
>>2443592It is not the content itself but the fact you use the same line of thought you mock TNO fans for. If you can’t think that way for this what’s stopping you from digging in your heels with the same line of thought if they did something more out there like strip out Atomwaffen. You are a fanboy not a dev.
>>2443594So just because TNO started to have a steep decline after a few years TFR is destined to as well as some form of historical determinism? What?
>>2443596the boogaloo boys related focuses are also on a similar style
>>2443597A toozer is standing still. Many mods only produce toozers it’s not hard to do. Unless it’s releasing its standing still.
>>2443591I don’t really care about tno, I haven’t defended it once in the thread. It is funny how in nearly two years tfr has released a grand total of 2 good paths with everything else be snca Russia stuff, buggy French content and a singular decent China path (too bad they got purged and you’ll see jack from the china again)
>>2443600Well yeah of course, that's their style. You're not gonna see the Insurrectionary Anarchists style used for Gazi's Hammers for example.
>>2443598You're comparing Czar's shitposts that never got off the ground to TNO's removal of beloved and iconic tags. There is no resemblance between the cases and I don't understand why you think this kind of concern trolling will work on anyone that knows how the situation went down.
>>2443599It’s happened to various degrees with Kaiserreich TNO OWB. It seems like a common occurrence for big mods past a certain point.
The day they cut Loji (never) is the day you should start to panic.
>>2443603Most of tfrs hype revolves around grandiose promises made by the developers (remind you of anything)
>>2443606But TNO is the only existing mod that's notable for having effectively killed itself by removing all its original content. KR and OWB for all their faults never did anything that even comes close.
>>2443603>in nearly two years tfr has released a grand total of 2 good pathsAnd TNO has released a grand total of 0 paths, good or otherwise, in well over 5.>>2443606OWB has released paths for existing nations, but a map expansion is really overdue and it's nowhere in sight. OWB is really sparse with the toozers and there are no leaks either.
just took a look at the boogaloo boys on the leaked build, considering they only release teasers when the tag is completed it's safe to say at the very least that the boogaloo boys' civil war content is complete, most of the stuff shown at the teaser is not on the build.i estimate that most tags have their civil war content complete, i will take a look at everything and post again in a while, things are looking up for tfrbros
>>2443522>toozer for non existent contentIt's dead jim.
>>2443522most snca mod of all time possibly
>TNO releases a teaser for a teaser>TFR releases an actual teaser>TNO janny has a mental breakdown about the reactions on /vst/ for hours
>>2443603>tfr has released a grand total of 2 good paths Revanchist China's paths are good, French far-right paths are good, Alikhanov's path is good, and Gunther's path is good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhklgLmcl8k
>>2443618And nobody played any new content
>>2443620>TFR hasn't updated this very second?>W TNO!What kind of logic even is this
>>2443614Erm actually anon TFR is stuck in devhell and 1.1 will never release because TNO is a mod that went to shit meaning TFR also has to suffer the same fate for some reason.
>>2443618>TNO janny has a mental breakdown about the reactions on /vst/ for hoursI think it's because the moment he posted news of the toozer in /tno/, I replied to xim saying xhe was gay for being hyped for a promise of a promise of toozers.This one reply bindbroke him so hard he started raiding this thread.
>>2443619Wef I mentioned was a good path. Revanchist China is ok 6.5/10. Judging by the name Im guessing Alikhanov is Russian? Russias paths have the problem of mostly just being the same.
the "The Base" leaks shown earlier today are new and not on the leaked build, i consider it safe to assume that the gfx work for cascadia is currently being completed at the moment, as novo also stated that mike ma's post war tree is currently getting gfx
>>2443625>bindbrokemindbroke/buckbroke/whatever the fuckfaggot is btfo.
>>2443625That wasn’t me Faggot. I don’t post in the TNO thread I only stir up shit here. I know it’s hard for you guys to understand but more than one person can dislike TFR.
>>2443627Hopefully they're perfecting the ethnic cleansing mechanics as well.
The leaks last time shown some mechanics of the boogs were not ready.That can only mean everything was done within 3 months. 1.1 is coming this year. Trust. Also vacation will probably allow the devs to commit a bit more while safegarding their mental state.
>>2443625Looking at that thread I guess you're right. Someone with the same writing style was defending the concept of teasing teasers and came here afterwards.What's interesting to me is that people were a lot more lenient about it over there. The general sentiment there seems to just have been that they should just have waited until they could've released the full thing.
>>2443631>1.1 is coming this yeaEhhh. Sounds optimistic. I'm thinking Dark Maga this year, 1.1 sometime early next year.
>>2443622You guys spent the last two months hyping up an update you were certain was going to release today. Last week the attitude in this thread was that they’d have to be retarded to not release DARK MAGA today.
>>2443629>but more than one person can dislike TFR.on the slowest video game board on the site?
>>2443629>Exact same gripes>Exact same arguments>Exact same timing>Retardedly taking on a wildly unpopular cause
>>2443630What are the chances TFR get nuked from the workshop 2 hours in?
>>2443637I'm pretty sure you can get away with genocide mechanics as long as you keep it vague enough and don't reward the player for it.
>>2443635Yes? That other guy complaining about TFR paths and misspelling everything isn’t me so clearly it is possible.
>>2443634I hate to break it to you but the Q-larp is just something people do for fun.
>>2443640You do not pass the vibecheck nonetheless thoughbeit. Just like you do not pass irl.
TFR raped me....
>>2443644did it atleast put a condom on?
>>2443644Bro....
>>2443636I’ve just been posting here believe it or not.>>2443642Cmon man you can scroll up in this thread and see people not buying the Q bait but still playing right into it and concluding certainly something would release today>>2443643They should really tell trannies that you don’t have to go to a doctor you can just post critique of TFR here and instantly you are on estrogen apparently.
TFR turned me into a newt!
Abowaffen content coming in 1.2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkKKN41mICI
>>2443649Because playing along with a meme is fun. If you had a soul, you'd know. It would've been funny if it released on the 4th but people said that about Trump's birthday too.
post yfw when the dark mandate releases at 11:59 pm
>>2443659>Post Catharsis drops with it
>>2443660>Post-Catharsis MEGA tags in Europe
Happy 4th of July from /tno/.
>>2443660>>2443664Post-Catharsis is like an entirely new timeline, entirely new mod even. The sheer scope of it would dwarf the mod as it is right now.
>>2443649It was less of you /being/ a tranny and more of you emulating one.
>>2443684That makes no sense. Just have new warlord states appear in Europe. Say that it's a condensed timeline. Other mods have done it.
>>2443614>they only release teasers when the tag is complete>dark maga still hasn’t released yet
>>2443698there was a teaser for what i can only assume is the civil war tree
>>2443633January 6th release date?
>>2443701For 1.1 or Dark MAGA? Dark MAGA releasing on Jan 6th is both plausible and funny, 1.1 I think that's too soon.
>>2443700I think they've finished the civil war stuff and are just working on the post 2ACW content and polish now.
Yeah so... the Myanmar hoyim complaining about "hOw DiFfiCuLt ThE nEw CoMbaT iS" is a total retard.I just whipped up a new Japan game, followed the same intuition and brought the 1 (single) only fucking large SPG unit I have as a volunteer to Myanmar and guess what I'm fucking winning.I'm winning so hard with 1 unit, that the battles are literally my single unit with 300-500 Soft Attack to the enemy's 0If you can't fucking win this proxy war in TFR with volunteers, you are legitimately braindead. The enemy can't damage you.
>>2443722Seriously, this nigga is fucking struggling against divisions with 2 battalions of militia as China.Just turn the game off shut it down lil bro.
>>2443722>>2443727And before the same retard says anything about the unit quality of Myanmar actual vs the splinter states, every single non volunteer faction involved gets a -100% attack modifier. Units don't matter at that point only stats.
>>2443722>300-500 Soft AttackIsn't there a retarded -9999% attack debuff everywhere?
>>2443704probably, i can't check out the branch but i'd say an august release could be possible, their pace seems to be good if the boogaloo boys' jump from proof of concept to fully playable civil war is anything to go by
>>2443730That's only for the civil war factions.I'm attacking up mountains with 100 and attacking on plains with 300 on force attack and 500 on fa + max planning.
>>2432664I think the guy seething about there not being a separate TFR thread or one of the other obsessive anti-TFR posters is back to his old tricks.
>>2443522I hate how TOTA is dead, I loved that mod sad it's content is short.
>>2443782>Unfun atrocity about biafra with dogshit ui and audio made by Red Poop affiliated furry devs Fuck them I hope they fail at everything they do. I hate it more than Kalterkrieg.
>read the angry spam from yesterday It's interesting to me that the TNO shills have gone from acting high and mighty to wishing that other mods fail as spectacularly as they have and that this is a fated course of action that cannot be altered. Meanwhile in reality they'd likely be doing fine today if the current leads just made some compromises instead of reworking everything and getting rid of anyone that disagreed. Anything to not have to accept responsibility I guess.
EaW is honestly not that good. Not bad by any means, but it's full of jank, issues and bad or barebones content. It just doesn't have the mechanical dealbreakers many others have, in part because it's more sandbox than most. At this point I sometimes even feel like I prefer vanilla. I wish other mods could replicate its performance and overall lack of friction though.
>>2443843It just being a casual sandbox free from bloat and the most invasive kinds of political brain rot you see in other mods is going to be enough for a lot of people. That and the sheer novelty of the fact that one of the most stable and drama-free mods out there is the fucking p*nyfucker mod.
>>2443846There's good value in that, I agree.
Did anyone play the new requiem paths? Are they good?
>>2443896>Did anyone play the new requiem paths? I did the rurik guy>Are they good?Not really, no.
>>2443896They're OK. The general sentiment seems to be that they're below or just above average. If Berezniki was released in 1.1 TNO it'd be one of those inoffensive but OK tags in Russia that no one really talks about but isn't all that bad either. It was pretty buggy on release though so wait until at least their next patch to try it out for yourself if you're interested.
>>2443905Why so?>>2443924More patches? Thought it would be fixed with the compability patch that dropped after the 26thIs Mann unification any good or just a rehash of the old content?
>>2443928>patchThat was just a hotfix. The actual patch is coming sometime this month.>MenThey did apply a lot of bug fixes and he now has the ability to fight Germany I think. Haven't played a full game with him yet but they did give him a facelift and improve the experience somewhat.
>>2443782It is a shame
>>2434590Updated the overhaul mod image now that CWIC finally updated.
>>2443979Have you considered adding TNO Rises Again to it? It haS 40k subs and people often ask which one to choose. Tl;Dr it's the originalist TNO fork that uses Atlantropa and skips Guangdong and the new economy system.Maybe Pride and Fall at the end to get a nice even spread? It's that comedic mod about a civil war in Poland. It's a bit of a cult classic here and it deserves a shout out. Another new that could work is that recent OWB in Europe mod that just released. Maybe collapsing World.>Resolution Oh wait maybe it's too big unless you split it in two. Maybe one for the Utility list and another for the news post if you do them again idk.
>everyone schizing out about templates in the new update >Ifvs still obviously the best>mbts now actually useful>spart uselessJust run a 48 width mix of mbt and ifv template to push and 24 width ifv templates to hold. You didn't seriously think having more soft attack would matter in the mod where AI templates have a minimum of 65% hardness, did you?If you're playing in america spam militia as per usual and use whatever mech you can buy/special forces for pushing. Quantity btfos quality in 2acw. Honestly better of battleplanning than actually trying, here.
No one disputed that they were the best unit by unit in a 1v1 fight. The thing is that the others have new good strategic uses. Like having your breakthrough units create a gap, and then use your faster units to exploit it. Since they now have better combat functions you can now create diverse armies that can achieve more with less. Brute forcing with good tanks and IFVs can always work in the end though.
>>2443987I don't believe you. APCs look good to me and the 2ACW is the most encirclement- and supply point/vp snaking-focused conflict in the mod, I think, and so the most focused on microing offensive units.
>>2444090Nayrt but this is true. In fact given the strength gaps between all the non-feds and feds in particular opportunism, encircling, VP sniping and such is practically mandatory for every non-federal tag. Heck, even as Trump and Biden you ought to do a fair bit of both if you don't want things to drag out until the others are ready to invade you in the rear.
>>2443987>48 widthHoly crap youre retarded.
Somehow road to 56 got away with ethnic cleansing mechanic that reward you with cores
>>2444127Well, if it's only that pic, it's not actually talking about ethnic cleansing. Of course we're all aware it would come with that, but it's not depicted. I'm more surprised they let Burgundy's KZ manager esque mechanic fly. I guess because you're not explicitly intended to kill them, it's just mechanically incentivized.
>>2444128if this can pass it's the pandora box for HOI4 modding
>>2444127That's not ethnic cleansing, it's displacement and demographic shifts. It's not pretty, but do you think the Swedes are going to admit that those things are bad? Didn't think so.>>2444128It actually isn't most of the time. Killing them means that you have less slave labor and ideally you want an equilibrium between your slave count and how many you can support so that you don't get either rebellions or shortages. I agree with you though, it's surprising something that intense was allowed. It's honestly not the worst management game either since they give you that late-game difficulty spike where crises cause you to have a massive gap between what you can maintain. And the fucking idiots in charge of the mod have spent four fucking years if not more trying to delete all of it.
>>2444130This only depicts moving your own native citizens into other places so they can farm that place. Possibly immoral depending on why and how but not ethnic cleansing in itself. I agree that it's probably a good guide for how to depict this and make mechanics around it without getting banned though.>>2444131Yeah? I always found control or whatever it was called much, much more difficult to manage than industry. You simply didn't have enough guards to deal with them all. All infrastructure would get maxed out and building the slots filled and expanded anyway, even if you only do it in order to get rid of excess workers. I assumed that was the point, to give you this alleged industrial workforce and then to manipulate you into focusing on continually culling them so they can't get unruly.
Recommendations for benevolent dictator type paths? Where you're actually striving for the good of your people and nation as an autocrat and not just cackling over poors getting worked to death in factories, without making it about socialism or reformism or such? Whether it's a wish-fulfilling powertrip or it all falls apart around you with implied political criticism doesn't matter, nor whether it's a nothing-happens visual novel or a map painting crusade, any is fine
>>2444138Loji's China/Asia. She rules with complete control over Humanity, but her rule is benevolent.
AI being benevolent is unrealistic
>>2444138Populares Calisia in Pride and Fall, bread and circuses along with welfare
>>2444141>Caretaker AI violates its code so it can do an even better job of taking care of HumansMore realistic than a Skynet type AI.
>>2444157LOS fan I see.
>>2444138Kemalist Ottomans in KR. Your opponents are people who want to vote to keep child marriage.
>>2444141Quite the opposite. Hyper efficient, completely aware A.Is will either go the papperclip or the loji route.They will either try to make something work by disregarding everything else, or will go full strong-arm benevolence, since her programming forces her to do>GoodAnd depiste everything post modern philosophers say, good is objective
>>2444184>do as much good as possibleRight until the AI runs into the basilisk. Then hold on to your mouths, you'll need them for screaming.
>>2443928>Why so?It felt like it had no purpose since Kemerovo already fills the role of berezniki and the content ends after 2WRW. The difference is that I liked Kemerovo because it was the first country I played on release and I would expect some new transformative changes from a submod after all this time, like a post 2WRW tree.
>>2444194>Roko's BasiliskIf it was added to TFR which tag would it fit best in?
Someone convince me to play China in TFR.I can't fucking do it. I just started a new game as China and it feels like I'm playing late game vanilla US.I feel so unmotivated. Winning both wars will be a walk in the park and I already feel bored.
>>2444216>Play as the most powerful country on earth >"I worry that this may not be a challenge run."It won't be. There's fun to be had but it won't be very challenging.
>>2444216Set it up so that Japan wins everything in the interwar period. You'll be surrounded and have to fight all of Asia more or less. At least it's a big war.
>>2444216If you want it to be harder lose the Taiwan invasion and have as few allies going into the GAW as possible. You could also play their hardest path which I think is the traditionalist revanchists, the subpath where you form the Chinese People's Empire is the hardest one I believe.
>>2444225>Chinese People's Empire>I have to fail the taiwan invasion (basically AFK)Snore.>>2444221Ill do this though
>>2444226The Taiwan invasion doesn't happen that long after the mod's start date. Until it happens just spend your time building up your economy, military, and dicking around in foreign conflicts like the 2ACW.
>>2444090>>2444096I am starting to think that the average person who posts in this thread does not actually play this game. In what fucking world do you need to encircle fuck all to win any war besides usb v trump? Snaking? The fuck?Literally every single regional 2ACW conflict is just move your dudes onto the mini warlords and eat them literally 0 thought put into it. The only warlords that requite some amount of thinking are PF and APLA. As Trump you literally just battleplan and auto-win. AWD is buggy and fucked up and you should be more concerned with having to console in 500 nukes than winning the gay war.PF gets the entire South for free with the funny annex confederacy idea. USB dies instantly with 0 effort and cannot hold a line against you and trump. At that point you should have more divisions than Trump and can literally just battleplan with divions made of dead rats because his entire gimmick is having a lot of trash divisions which guess what you have twice as many.APLA is the exact same shit except you have to fight Cascadia. It is literally just build a million militia and draw arrows to denver. This shit is even easier as you have the rockies to your east and a literal road going north from new Mexico to Denver.Why the fuck are we acting like this mod was ever difficult?>>2444104Kill yourself
>>2444235>As Trump you literally just battleplan and auto-win.Eh I mean it's hard to fight the UOA initially since your military is ass and you have to focus on defending until you can get your shit together and the National Front jumps the UOA to take some pressure off your frontline. >you should be more concerned with having to console in 500 nukes than winning the gay war.Not wrong about cheating in nukes due to how long it takes, but fighting factions that actually have content is tough as the AWD and it's only going to get harder when the LOS, BLA, and RR get content.>PF gets the entire South for free with the funny annex confederacy ideaWonder if that's going to be cut when LOS gets content? >USB dies instantly with 0 effort and cannot hold a line against you and trumpThey can hold decently, especially if they were pushing Trump's shit in before you declare on them. >TrumpDifficulty for fighting him can very greatly depending on a few factors, if he doesn't have Texas on his side and is busy fighting the APLA he's a cakewalk. But if does have Texas and the APLA is bogged down in Cascadia he can be pretty tough, especially if he got a lot of the UOA's territory after the peacedeal.
>>2444235God you're an obnoxious tryhard. Yes, you can win most wars with brute force and caveman tactics if you bash your head against the wall enough times. People are just telling you that it's easier and faster if you apply some micro and actually fight a bit smarter and you're probably going to have more fun too if you do it. You don't really seem like you even know what fun is any more though.
>>2444235>In what fucking world do you need to encircle fuck all to win any war besides usb v trump? Snaking? The fuck?>Why the fuck are we acting like this mod was ever difficult?>Kill yourself
My interest in doing a China run died. I crashed due to selecting the cipher tab in intel. Such an annoying bug.
>>2444237As annoying as History Legends would be in this timeline I think some of the real NAFO YouTubers would be the most annoying people on the planet in TFR. Win or lose 1EW, they'd be insufferable.
>>2444254>>2444247Bros are mad that their narrative visual novel game is actually easy holy fuck lololol this is what happens when you build your identity around being an epic hardcore dark souls gamer
>>2444264>>2444264>"narrative visual novel game is actually easy holy fuck lololol">Every accusation, a confessionCan you be a little less fucking obvious with your shitty trolling?This has to be the faggot I upset yesterday in the /tno/ thread. Atleast TFR has actual gameplay and wars. TNO is not even a visual novel btw it has no visuals.
>>2444264Another projecting TNOfag trying to stir up a mess and failing miserably.>>2444266>no visualsMy Denmark GUIs say otherwise.
>>2444266>>2444268Never played TNO, never will. You guys are so fucking hilariously retarded and obnoxious. Absolutely fucking anal ravaged over being shown that your game is not hard. Not even that it's not fun or it's not good. Mad about something not being hard. How do you get to this fucking point? Literal lolcows.
>>2444272>Makes the most obvious trolling attempt ever and calls everyone fags>Get told to stop baiting>"LOL U MAD BRO? U MAD BRO? U MAD BRO? UR SO MAD BRO!!"Please stay away from this board if you're underaged.
>>2444275What the fuck are you even talking about? I came here to dicuss my new template ideas and you are schizing the fuck out about how ACKSHUALLY 2acw requires ELITE GAMER SKILLS to win. When I explained it doesn't and you can easily battleplan it you claimed I am a tryhard and starting freaking the fuck out. Do you even know what you are talking about? Meds.
>>2444276Go back to /tno/.
The TNO autist doesn't exist, does he? It's just a buch of people shitposting to trigger the general's resident autist who spends all day arguing with people here.
>Gets caught >Tries to deflect and obfuscate
>>2444272I know you're trolling poorly but:Your argument is literally imaginary. No one said TFR was super difficult.You typed a 2000 word post telling people to "get good, it's ez" when all they said was APCs are decent and good player mechanics are rewarded.The irony is that the people you're talking to actually know how to play the game and more or less just want to understand deeper mechanics, while you are advocating that we should not look further into unit balance since you don't like the mod.And incredibly, you dislike unit balance (for made up reasons) but don't want us to talk about it.
>>2444279
>>2444282I don't understand what you are talking about in the second half of your post I assume you have me confused for someone else because I don't dislike unit balance or the mod. I don't think APCs are worth using at all in their current state unless you can get them for free. I'm not sure what APCs and their goodness have to do with good player mechanics because you can use good player mechanics with any unit and be rewarded. I made a standalone post stating that IFVs are still the shit because they have hardness and hard attack and that MBTs are now worth using. Can you LARP and run whatever cool APC larp divisions you want? Yes obviously but my original post was a comment on the fact that earlier (and perhaps in the last thrwad too) there were a million people talking about how the meta is dead and it's over for IFVs. The added soft attack from running APCs is not relevant and you are better off having divisions that can push other hard divisions than divisions that win moar against militia. Splitting your industry by making APCs and IFVs is just overcomplicating things.
>>2444194Why would it try to kill or harm people who didn't want it to exist or didn't strive for it to exist, since harming unaware bystanders is objectivelly foul?
>>2444287I don't think you tested what you just said at all.
>>2444295Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.
>>2444287>I'm not sure what APCs and their goodness have to do with good player mechanicsI was summarizing a lengthy 2000 page tangent you went on replying to someone else about how "encircling and snaking is not necessary".It's shocking that you couldn't remember what you were saying while reading my post.What did you have for breakfast this morning?
>>2444299You are confusing two conversations. That person wasn't responding to my argument about IFVs he is responding to my argument about quantity being more important than quality in 2acw. Anon claimed that 2acw is the most micro-intensive war in the game and you should incest in APCs to get encirclements. I disagreed stating that you can very easily just spam infantry with your industry and as long as you use your free mech wisely and make sure you take advantage of the black market you will be much better off than if you are wasting limited industry trying to build mech. I also don't think you have the luxury of choosing what kind of mech divisions you will use in 2acw in the first place. My long post was about how actually 2acw is very easy to battleplan if you use this tactic which is where all the butthurt came from. I don't think anybody is mad about me thinking IFVs are generally a better investment than APCs, I assume the anal pain is coming from my point about 2acw not actually being as micro-intensive as anon claims. I can see why you are confused though.
>>2444302>IncestLol I meant invest obviously fuck my life
I highly suspect I'm talking to this faggot: >>2441248 who was arguing WEDNESDAY, fucking half a week ago about how much he despises everyone not using strictly meta templates against meta templates.Soon after, he also started acting like this isn't a strategy game and that he is "correct" for going against the grain of the thread.Same rhetoric espoused in the above posts.Bottom line for the unit conversation: APCs are insanely useful. Just because you don't use them doesn't mean they aren't useful. Especially now with the buffs they can push on your frontline. They can compliment IFVs or replace them entirely depending on the usecase.And yes, they're still massively useful in Asia where the supply is garbage everywhere.Hearkening back to: >>2441242>The balance update made it so that TFR's units work more like an actual strategy game now with different unit specializations and counters.Almost everything this retard said tonight can be chalked up to he has to always be right nothing more.
>>2444305Yeah that's not me you should probably chill out because you kind of look like >>2444286 this meme unironically right now. Feel free to enjoy your massive soft attack in a game where the AI uses divisions that are at minimum 65% hardness. It's fine, the game is easy and you can just battleplan to win anyways so it's not worth stressing over.
>>2444302I am actually that anon. I didn't makr any reply past the first one. Well, yes, you can probably just spam IC-efficient divs and battleplan and still win, just as you can probably WC as vanilla germany by battleplanning with only 18 width pure inf. But that's obviously much worse than actually trying, and at least to me, at least half the satisfaction of playing comes from 1. winning thoroughly and cleanly, 2. winning quickly, and 3. making the scenarios more challenging than usual and still trying to win, so I care at least a little bit about good but unnecessary things. Anybody butthurt about any of this is being silly, you're either talking about or caring about different things.
>>2444308I think you can still get a lot of hard attack regardless of whether you use IFVs or APCs, right? Why I said APCs seemed good is because I think they had significantly higher breakthrough. I don't have the game up right now to compare things though.
>>2444305It's rather curious that ever since the TNO shill popped up we've had daily new rants from retards that make claims in the same vein about how mad he is about difficulty or, more recently, projecting that anger onto others over TFR supposedly being an extremely difficult and complex mod, something literally no one has claimed since release unless you're playing the totally gimped AWD. Even if they are different people I still don't understand what the problem is. Same light rock-paper-scissor elements were added, but you can still win with brute force or elite units. So it's all very manufactured.Really proves why people who don't like the game and are just in it for the "vibes" should be gatekept from the conversation because they always do shit like this since actually having fun playing the game like a normal person was never part of their plan. TNO really made these people a problem because the complete lack of gameplay allowed them to infest the community in a way that something like KR never let them do.>>2444328APCs are also very fast so they're great at exploiting breakthroughs and outrunning enemies or plugging gaps if you're on the defensive even if the IFV still has better overall stats.
>>2444346>TNO really made these people a problemTNO revolutionized hoi4 and is the reason why the mod you're shilling for even exists. Pretending otherwise is either disingenuous or outright retardation. Vanilla hoi4 is fucking dogshit and in need of serious reimagining, I'm saying this as someone who just did the mapuche chile achievements.
>>2444353All true but has zero relevance to what was actually being said. You can respect all the contributions that TNO originally made to HOI4 and also recognize that it's the worst part of the community these days especially now that they've reworked it to be a worse version of TCT. Most of its remaining diehard fans are asshurt neoliberals that pollute any discourse they participate in because they don't want to play HOI4 and just want to read Wiki blurbs about Fiji's OTL leader. You can see that at the start of the conversation that caused this: >>2441321Doesn't like strategy games, doesn't like Paradox games and thinks that the rest of the community should accommodate him and his desires. In this case, by removing even the most basic complexity to the already very casual combat so that he can turn off his brain and read events.
>>2444286Poopdickschizos are sometimes real.
Can we get an event about the Patriot Front improving the safety and decency of public transport?https://x.com/ryanasanchez/status/2073994087766855918
>>2444279He actually does exist but has been less active for a while.This is the guy posting TNO AI images. There is also a /uhg/poster though this could also be the same person.
>>2444407Those are three different people. The /uhg/ guy can't stop talking about real life politics whereas the TNO AI slopper could at least converse about why he liked the mod and seethed about TFR. At least one TNO autist is also Kateryna the TNO head janny. He's the one that deflects with 2016 /pol/ memes and really low-grade racism whenever cornered on anything, like a Bluesky lib that doesn't know the local culture struggling to fit in. What all of them have in common is that they make the entire board worse whenever they post.
>>2444362Neither did Panzer. TNO was a deconstruction of hoi4 culture where going to war would lead to bad outcomes if you were not russian. That's not something magooners came up with, it's a core theme of tno. You are attacking his message and attributing it to failures of modern tno, which ironically is also attacking panzers legacy.>You can see at the start of the conversation that caused thisBut he's right. If you strip tno or tfr of everything and made it a mod about blobs going to war on an empty map no one would care. People are interested in reenacting their wet dreams or reading interesting stories. This is also why I fucking despise mods like blackice or darkest hour which focus too much on things I don't care about and are completely hollow in terms of everything else.>In this case, by removing even the most basic complexity to the already very casual combat so that he can turn off his brain and read eventsCombat in TFR is not very casual especially when compared to other mods. There are many things they made that to fuck with the players which is why Tommykay couldn't win as Japan. It's not because he was bad, but because you had to learn a new meta on top of fighitng a country that's superior to you in every way and also gets a hidden 50% buff to attack and defense. I think it's toxic to gut punch players and then mock them for not seeing it and being le bad at the game. I fundamentally disagree with making games this way and think that everyone should be able to complete the game like Tim Cain said and how it is TNO where the challenge comes from getting the best outcome but you can still experience 10 years of content even if you fail. TFR tried to do that with the whole "defeated paths" thing but it failed completely and felt like a continued humiliation ritual where the game told you to stick around and suck even more dick instead of quitting.
>>2444425>Panzer actually intended for OTL Africa and no wars>I still hate Black Ice>My ecelebs think this game is 2hard4meStop fucking seething about the balance changes and your Reddit meta divisions not working you dumb cunt. You've been bitching about this every day for nearly a full week straight.
>>2444290Because since the AI exists to do good, it's own existance is good. Thus, preventing it from existing earlier is objectively foul.
>>2444299>What did you have for breakfast this morning?A bowl of nails.
At least the AI slopper posted some funny pictures
>>2444415The TNO AI slopper was funny though.
>>2444497My favorite TNO AI slopper moments were when he tried to own the TFR chuds by representing them as fun-loving bros that just wanna hang out and eat pizza together with the pals and play video games and then juxtaposed against TNO being represented by soulless corporate bureaucrats being serious. leftcantmeme.dds
start doing this
>>2444508I could actually see the redux shitting something like that out. It'd be terrible and probably wouldn't work at all but we'd all get a laugh and it'd brighten our day.
another tnoslopper gem
I gotta say this thread is fucking garbage and it's at least funny watching you spergs tweak out at AIfag's ragebait. I say bring him back.
>The nuTNO shill is mad that people don't find him as unintentionally sovlful as the autistic AI slopper
>>2444508Post dark maga one
>>2444508>>2444511Do you have any of his chill TFR dudebro vs TNO corpo stooge ones? They were incredibly kino.
>>2444563
>>2444579>Called TNO AI slopper>Makes some of the most banger-ass pro-TFR propaganda out thereThe left can't meme!
>>2444583there was one post he depicted himself as a cuck tied to a chair being surrounded by chad tfr players that were laughing at his sad state
>>2444579His specific seethe about multipolar elements and BRICS makes me think the guy is genuine.
>>2444425So you are standing up for the nudevs that continue to remove Panzer's content and say that modern TNO is "Panzer's legacy"?And you hate BICE and DH for having deeper mechanics?>TFR "isn't casual" and you "have to play the meta" as countries like JapanLOL I thought you said you can just battleplan to win and that it was SO EASY and "you guys think you're playing the dark souls of goy4".You're the same faggot who was spazzing out about playing China and losing to Burma.I'm just going to re-iterate what the other anon said, you've been crying about game difficulty and game balance all week since the update.Get some fucking common sense, get good at the fucking game and lurk more.Your LARPing as someone who plays strategy games nothing more.
>>2444604>Get some fucking common sense, get good at the fucking game and lurk moreOr he could just play something else. This TNO guy - all of them really - hating strategy games but insisting that they should be made for them is like asking a FPS dev to remove all guns from a game to comply with your pacifist beliefs.
>>2444604Can you gen some schizo AI images to make your bait more interesting
I wish i were retarded enough to keep getting baited again and again by the lowest hanging fruit this thread could ever offer, life must be so exciting with such underdeveloped thinking skills
STOPHAVINGFUN
Every time the TNO devnigger gets shut down and ridiculed he always starts to spam that it was all bait. True or not, it's a sad state of affairs when something that can easily be considered an earnest defense of TNO (no gameplay or wars, all GUI and narratives) can be considered trolling.
>>2444614>be me, TNOfag>anon replies to me in /tno/ about July 4th announcement about an announcement>"Promise of a promise">I deliberately enter a thread I do not like (/hoi4 modding/)>Proceed to give a piece of my mind about TFR's latest update as "revenge">Post my genuine opinion>Everyone gripes with it in several ways>Calls me "retard", "schizo", "obnoxious" when I keep re-calibrating my stance and finding new knit-picks>Erm actually you guys are all the obnoxious schizo retards. You don't even play GOY4 you stupid hoyim. STOP LARPING. APCS SUCK. THE GAME IS EASY>Anyways this is why licherally every fucking mod except TNO is the WORST THING EVER.>Everyone disagrees with me again, what a shocker.>I know, I'll pretend to be somebody else and act like it was all bait all a long.>Im just acting like the retard, but it is (You) who is retardedIt's so fucking funny how there is an image reaction macro for every single narrative you put forth.
>>2444425
>>2444627Not even the TNO guy but thanks for the word salad
>>2444690>I'm not him>I just happen to share all his extremely unpopular opinionsAt best, a TNOdev of the soul. Spiritually nudev.
>>2444508Kino
Every fucking time I leave this thread I come back to see it is has been non stop insanity. For a split second I see the replies and assume something updated. If it is not tno related shit then it is the raped retard sperging about the Russo-Ukraine war. 1.1 needs to come out as soon as possible.
>>2444717>No JD generalNiQQa.....
>>2444720fr, bad showing. I at least put him in charge of my defensive militias.
Tag yourself
>>2444754>A Danger To Myself And OthersThat's me bruh.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCgh--I5V5c
>>2444754Shining city on a hill baby
>>2444717WHY ARE YOU ENCIRCLING DIVISIONS ARE YOU CRAZY? YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT JUST BATTLEPLANWHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS? THE DARK SOULS OF HOI4?
Did the TFR combat update decrease the KD ratio of combat? I feel like way less soldiers die now, which is sad. I liked how deadly combat used to be.
>>2444799Sad if true. High death counts are very hot.
Should Charlie Kirk's assassination be added to the pre 2ACW as another event that builds up to the conflict/further divides America or added post 2ACW as buildup to or occurring after Dark MAGA?
>>2444627Anon who was complaining about TFR on the 4th in this thread, I've chosen a name to get rid of confusion. I'm not the guy complaining today about snaking that's a different guy. You keep bringing up this like epic trolling you did in the TNO thread that triggered me but I have no clue what you are talking about. I don't post in there anyway because it's a sad thread so that was someone else. I scrolled through the thread twice to try and find the post you keep referencing but I don't see anything?Also I'm not a TNO dev I like Red Flood and EAW more.
>>2444830Also it's the fucking HOI4 modding thread not the TFR thread people can talk about modding here they don't have to just tongue lash TFR's ass like the rest of you cattle. If you are so offended then make a separate TFR thread where you guys can jerk eachother off in peace.
>>2444830>You may have thought that you completely felted me, but you are in fact mistaken>Here, I'm now namefagging on a board without IDs to prove that I'm definitely a different person>Don't you feel silly now, thinking that you felted me, when in fact it was you who got felted by your own confusion?Just shut the fuck up and drop the topic you sperg and people will forget how silly you sounded before the new thread is even up.
>Butthurt man calls for the creation of a separate TFR thread for the 58th time this year
>>2444833I asked a very simple question. What was the post in the TNO thread you keep bringing up? You can read it again slowly if you are having trouble i'll wait.
>>2444832>If you are so offended then make a separate TFR thread where you guys can jerk eachother off in peace.LOL We are never threadsplitting TFR into another thread get lost faggot. This is another key argument you've been bludgeoning into this thread for months.TNO has that specifically to reduce the drama in this thread.You are the only faggot that comes here regularly to create a ruckus about TFR. You will never get your wish no matter how hard you try.
>>2444835>>2444841I lurk here I didn't start posting until the 4th. I dislike how much oxygen TFR sucks up from smaller mods in this thread. If I had my way TFR and TNO would be confined into their own boards so people could talk about other mods and actual modding here for once. I mean cmon did we really need the Grisha games to take up like 30% of this thread or could it have been in a separate TFR thread.
>>2444839He isn't (me) and the reply chain I'm referencing is largely irrelevant at this point in time. You already loaded up this thread with hundreds of posts that showcase just how retarded you are, without having to dig up an archived thread from last week.Unlike (You) who is fighting a sad lonely pathetic crusade against TFR, there are countless other people ITT that simply don't take your bullshit lying down.
>>2444844You guys would be bored as hell if people didn't barge into this thread like me and say shit. I mean do you really want to just sit around in this thread while people post their slop retarded fan ideas for TFR.
>>2444843>I lurk here I didn't start posting until the 4th.>If I had my way TFR and TNO would be confined into their own boards so people could talk about other mods and actual modding here for onceNudev thinks he's so slick trying to pass himself off as another person AGAIN.Look at how he samefagged here pretending to be a different person: >>2444614 >>2444616Twice in one day, not even 12 hours apart. He thinks we don't recognize him always saying the same shit.Remember the last time someone pressed him on what content he actually wants in this thread? He said he would just talk about making mods.I haven't seen him once talk about making a mod himself. It's been almost a year of this faggot crying like this every thread. He can't help himself.
>>2444843>so people could talk about other mods and actual modding here for once. Feel free to start doing so at any moment, for example anyone else here played the new ERX update? Any thoughts? I haven't finished my current run yet but I'm liking the new stuff for the most part but it's a shame the Purists got shafted again. Also I get why the 30 day cooldown and 30 days until completion timers are there for passing bills in congress, but they really need to add something that notifies the player they're able to submit a new bill since it can be easy to forget about the whole system.
>>2444846The thread was fine until you joined in crying about:>The new update being shit>Game balance>Vibes>Unit Types>How other people play the game>God forbid we talk about anything elseIt's a never ending rotation of complaints from you, the only complainer in this entire thread. Then you pretend like you're not just saying the same shit every other post.Obvious troll is obvious.
>>2444847It was me posting on the 4th making fun of you guys for getting nothing of substance on the 4th that's all I've been very clear about that I don't know what other posts you are refrencing. I would rather this thread be 99% Bronies talking about EAW than people circle jerking over TFR and how TNO is dying for the 500th time.
>>2444854>I would rather the thread be bronies than talk about realityK
>>2444852none of that was me that's why i started namefagging>>2444850Have you tried the Vipers submod for OWB I enjoyed it? Haven't gotten around to ERX since I first played it like two years ago. OWB crashing on load pisses me off
>>2444850>the Purists got shafted again.It's because the devs of ERX are fucking cucks that hate their audience.They make fun of normies who don't like the Netflix adaptation with the girlboss shit.Every update since inception they shafted the Purists because they're too based in universe.
>>2444856>none of that was me that's why i started namefaggingYeah. Uhuh. You are definitely passing as a new person. Just like real life, definitely passing. Fooling everybody.
>>2444843>I'm sad that another mod is popular and talked about a lotBe the change you want to see! Post screenshots of your latest KX campaign! Talk about ERX content you're discovering! Fucking ANYTHING other than seething about a mod that's popular right now!Also stop namefagging holy shit you're embarrassing. No one believes you. You're just drawing attention to your failures.
>>2444854>I would rather this thread be 99% Bronies talking about EAWYou should post lots and lost of that and see what happens. I'm sure that'll finally win over the locals.
>>2444856>Have you tried the Vipers submod for OWBNah but I'll probably check it out soon.>Haven't gotten around to ERX since I first played it like two years ago.I'd recommend doing so, it's received some good updates since then that warrant a replay.>>2444859They are giant fags, but the reformist content is undeniably good. It's just a shame they seemingly refuse to work on the Purists and when they do they give them a forced bad ending with no alternative. They really should just recruit some guys who will work on the Purists exclusively while they can focus on the Reformers, win win.
>>2444866Do I have to enable a shit-ton of the map expansions submods for the full ERX experience? Or is it fine with base game? I've found that a good majority of the Map expansions submods are meh and not really worth the lag.
>>2444859>NetflixWorse, it's Amazon.
>>2444867Generally yes because the whole endgame of the Reformers is to bring America back, but right now no since I think none of the map expansions are compatible with the current version of ERX. The main OWB team really needs to release a map expansion update soon. >>2444868It's really funny how these fags pretend to hate mega-corporations and proceed to suck them off and defend their slop so they can 'own the evil chuds online'
again? you retards
>>2444865I'm not a brony but it's a an utter truth that EAW is the best and most creative mod on the worskhop and it's criminal people don't talk about it more here. Anyone who plays it with anime portrait mods is a coward. Go play Zar-Hay right now. The fact that they update so consistently and with so much content per update is embarrassing for every other big mod out there.
>>2444873No need to vaguepost, anon. Tell us what's really on your mind.
>Pinetree Party>Individualist Anarchists>Boogaloo Boys>Vanguard of the WildExcluding AWD which 2ACW path is the most destructive/deadly?
>>2444876Any of the Disunifiers honestly. Runner up probably KKK.
>OWB map expansion modsI wanted to try these, but either I'm too retarded to load them correctly or the mods themselves don't quite like connecting with each other.What is the proper load order? And are they even updated? Last I heard they were waiting for Rustbelt Rising to update.
>>2444876If they actually let them succeed in their objectives, then I don't think anyone could measure up against VotW. That's probably approaching 99% mortality.
>>2444878KKK would be pretty destructive due to their hatred of Catholics and nonWhites, but I can't imagine them being anywhere even in the same general sphere as the 'Rape and kill everyone' niggas in Cascadia, 'Hang your local mailman for being a tyrant' guys in New England, or 'All technology is evil, we must retvrn to dying of sepsis due to getting a papercut'. >>2444879I don't think the loadorder matters and I think the only ones up to date are East Coast Rebirth and Rustbelt Rising, neither are currently compatible with ERX though.
>>2444876If Ted K is extreme enough to go full AnPrim then I think that might be it. Honestly probably the route I'm most excited to see just how far it'll go.>>2444878KKK is hardly the most destructive. They're softer than the NSM and likely won't be as unstable after their rework too. And I wouldn't put NSM on the top 5 list of most destructive tags with how fucked some of them are.
>>2444881I fucking love the pipe rifles and hope they let me build them in the game.
>>2444881>he still produces paperdegenerate tech slave
>>2444886>give pipe_rifle_technology>1 soft attack>0 hard attack>0 breakthrough>1% reliability>0.01 IC
>>2444883>If Ted K is extreme enough to go full AnPrim then I think that might be it. Honestly probably the route I'm most excited to see just how far it'll go.Based off leaks it is seemingly possible. >>2444886Same. It'd be a decent amount of extra work, but I really hope VOTW has unique shit technology, like instead of airplanes they make para-gliders that drop IEDs.
>>2444888Let's fucking GO!>>2444889>PossibleLET'S FUCKING GO!>TechAgree, let me larp hardcore. No vehicles, unique horse drawn wagons as a truck replacement to work with the logistics system and then just let me fight the feds with IEDs, homemade guns and bows.
>>2444891>Loji's fw she invades the North American Wild Lands to restore order and civilization only to be met with endless waves of feral hog hordes and poison tipped arrows being shot out of every tree and bush
>>2444894AI and its consequences...
>>2444897I wonder how Ted would react to an AI like Loji taking over, would he feel completely vindicated in his worldview or second guess himself due to its benevolence?
>>2444902100% vindicated. Thanks for the new wallpaper by the way, appreciate it.
>>2444905No prob and it'd be cool if they put it in an event or two for the special scenario where Loji and Ted exist at the same time. Maybe from the VOTW POV it'd be him raving about how he was totally right and The Long March is an abomination towards the Human race and they must never allow it to corrupt/conquer Humanity in their wild lands. Loji's POV meanwhile would be her thinking Ted is completely insane and pitying the people in his territory and their savage way of life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSLXSOOyW7w
>>2444915When will this be releasedI've wanted to play this for so long
>>2444916No clue, but it's still being worked on. Hopefully it releases some day. I like the post nuclear apocalypse 'Hell is real and it's this world we've created' vibe of the mod. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIqRNUrOH2c
>>2444866>the reformist content is undeniably goodSome of it, they go way too far with the integration stuff. It is like if the Legion had a path where they suddenly adopt third degree feminism and implement gender studies in the Praetorian Guard. They are the Enclave with a capital E, if the NCR's views on mutants are seen not heard at best and not in my neighbourhood at worst then even the most liberal Enclave members should be worse then them by at least a degree. Granite definitely has some strong stuff about him and the mod is more good then bad in my estimate but there is a fair few things that pop up which ruin the experience for me, like the wastelander literal whore becoming part of your government.>>2444870You don't understand, the pedos at hollywood are actually really cool guys, Hermione said so.
>>2444926I'm fine with the integration stuff since iirk it's usually presented as even the more tolerant Enclave members not being onboard with it but Granite forcing it anyway, and even then you don't have to give Mutants equal rights on the Reformer path. You can give normal Wastelanders equal rights but kill Ghouls, Super Mutants, and other sentient Mutants if you want. >the wastelander literal whore becoming part of your government.Yeah I'm not going to try and defend that, that's just retarded no matter which way you slice it.
>>2444919It's definitely one of the mods I look forward to the most. I honestly don't expect it to be good or very functional, I just really like the world and want to experience it. Red Flood hasn't really been all that active for a while and I hope it'll scratch a similar itch. Just like RF it looks completely batshit, but in a way that makes sense internally at least instead of just being random.
>>2444926>the wastelander literal whore becoming part of your government.QRD, please?
>>2444935When you capture New Reno and need to start collecting taxes some prostitute steps up to the plate and becomes the leader of the IRS. Would have made more sense if she was a bookie for the casinos but the dev just made her a hooker instead.
>>2444930I guess from my view it is a matter of believability. I can believe the Enclave liberals might, after a nasty power struggle, integrate wastelanders. I can easily envision the moderates setting up segregated habitats with the idea of genetic screening and radaway treatments available and enforced. I simply cannot accept that any group descending from the Enclave would hold meetings with talking racoons and treat ghouls and super mutants in any way that is not at best slavery.>>2444935>Enclave take New Reno>sets up government>local whore who was working for Bishop as an accountant has a meeting with the President>good with numbers>puts her in charge of the treasury departmentIf I recall correctly you don't get a choice to avoid this and it happens before you can go segro.
>>2444939>I simply cannot accept that any group descending from the Enclave would hold meetings with talking racoons and treat ghouls and super mutants in any way that is not at best slavery.I can buy it since you have to remember by the time they start talking about letting Ghouls, Super Mutants, and talking raccoons be Americans normal wastelanders will have entered the government and be attending the meetings. Doubly so for Super Mutants and talking raccoons since Ghouls will have already been integrated. However I will admit that it's fairly unlikely, but I don't think it's impossible and I'm glad you have a choice regarding everything instead of being forced to let them in or being forced to kill them all. Now it'd be nice if we could tell the hooker to go kick rocks and actually hire someone capable of the job.
>>2444943 (Me)Also you get a lot of choice regarding which of these mutants you'll give American status. You can let Ghouls and Super Mutants be American since they were at one point Human, but you can also kill the talking raccoons at the same time and I think the mole people as well.
>>2444943I can accept your point, though it makes Granite drastically lose cool points with me for even having that as a potential option.>give wastelanders rights>they use it muddy the gene pool even furtherThere is a lesson here.>hire someone capable of the jobThis is the perfect position for an ai supercomputer but no instead they all have to be playing dress up instead if creating flowcharts.
>>2444951>though it makes Granite drastically lose cool points with me Honestly I think the opposite, him forcing everyone to wear the get along shirt is fun and will have him parallel nicely with Chicago Enclave when they're added in 2034. Especially if you go the Iron President route where he's basically a dictator in everything but name.>You WILL marry the red blooded American Deathclaw girl and you WILL be happy>This is the perfect position for an ai supercomputer I'm just annoyed there's no choice involved, I'd be fine with the hooker being an option as long as there was an alternative choice. Like you said an AI, someone already experienced in the Enclave, or just another experienced Wastelander like an old pre war Ghoul accountant or something.
Darkest hour just updated what do you think?
>>2444957Post change log.
Does anyone know what the point of producing construction equipment is? Is it just pure larp or is it needed for something? Talking about ERX btw.
>>2444960https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f456QDDIzbE5FCy4YRMwetbNzJZ4Cq8JC0QbuDYfVqA/
>>2444968https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ6J5U1GjGkVBSOLVTE KINO
>>2444943Why the fuck does the power armor have cameltoe
>>2444972That's just the bottom layer.
>>2444972why not?
>>2444979Fair enough.
>>2444972Because it's sexy to be looked down on and called "mutie" and you need something to appreciate when you're looking up in return
>>2444972Good morale booster for the brave Enclave men fighting for one America, one Enclave, now and forever.
>Two more update until ERX Purists get some loveBrutal, is wanting more than one ending that isn't a grimderp ultra bad ending asking for too much?
>Enclave letting mutants inMight as well be the NCR at that point.
>>2444104There's two optimal widths in TFR: 48 and 32. Both fit cleanly into single-vector combat, where the tradeoff happens is in multi-vector combat. 48 width will fit into multi-vector attacks everywhere except mountains and cities, while 32 will not fit into multi-vector attacks cleanly except in mountains and cities.IMO, you want to go with 48 width because you'll have higher HP and thus suffer fewer losses, and also because mountain and urban tiles are less common than other terrain types.
>>2444991NCR are just some Indians who crawled out a vault and started larping as America (but not really), the Enclave are the real deal and only ever lose due to the deus ex machina that is the protagonist.
Wtf you guys told me he was getting axed
>>2444843Truth nuke. I'm too exhausted to look up in this thread anymore since it's always some pointless shit about tfr. As I previously said this sentiment will grow larger. I'm glad that nowadays I'm no longer the only one who sees this thread for what it is, this gives me some hope atleast
I bypass all this division design autism by just making standard triangular divisions for everything. Vanilla or modded, every time. Don't have to think about it and it always fits whatever you do because it's been the standard IRL for over a century. Only time you actually need to optimize templates is if you're playing something inherently autistic like MP or Sheep's mod, but that shit is ass anyway.
>>2444954GIWTWM
>>2444627>>2444830>>2444832>>2445031This guy forgot to turn off his name by the way and is indeed one of the /tno/ posters. Possibly even the one that had a mental collapse over his boss and friend Mango's honor being insulted for posting teasers for teasers.
>>2445078I made one innocuous post in the tno thread you caught me. You know using the exact namefagging I said I was gonna do. I'm actually mango QuidproQuo Czar and the AI poster. Good job Sherlock Holmes I guess I'll leak the secret red italy build as a reward.
>>2445082Completely mindbroken.
>>2445083I'm not the one who think there's a guy who's secretly pretending to be 20 different people for months to besmirch the honor of TFR. Don't worry you caught me so now paradox is gonna release TFR as a standalone like Darkest Hour instead of HOI5.
>>2445086What losing the race to 600k does to a mf.
>>2445086You've been seething about this here for a week. Give it a rest.
>>2445087You could combine TNO and TFR and it's still less than Kaiserreich 3 years after it was most popular.Mango does send me a check for every TNO sub tho so do you mind resubscribing?
>>2445088It's more fun for me personally if I seethe here because at least it stops me from having to see some retards fanfiction about his totally cool plans for AWD. I enjoy the Loji posters tho.
>>2445092How does it stop you from seeing it if you deliberately engage with the shit you hate and let it live rent free in your head for daysWhy even try to pass your own seething as a good thing What the fuck is wrong with you
>>2444889Would, with zero hesitation
>>2445095If it's people arguing here that's fun for me it's pretty simple and people get to busy with it so they don't post absolute dreck like this post>>2440490Didn't like when that guy was whining about APC's earlier because then everyone was just arguing about templates. Boring. I almost wish 1.1 would drop tomorrow so I could see people posting AAR's or smth of substance rather than everyone circle jerking about all the reddit and gay ideas they have for TFR or complaining about QPQ's Huey Long posts for the 500th time.
>>2445098Everybody always says shit like this but none of the AARs ever get engagement and the questions and attempts at discussion about other mods never get replies.
>>2445098>I'll just be a lolcow so that people talk less about the mod that I'm angry atHoly retardation.>>2445120Scroll up just a few posts and there's a lengthy discussion on OWB. Stop trying to get the thread splitting to happen.
>>2445098Oh you mean this?
>>2445066Same...
>>2445026Yeah, by 2041 there'll be a whole whopping three anons who cry about a HOI 4 mod being talked about in the HOI 4 modding thread.
>>2445026>Replying to yourself Nigga you're the only person that's mad that people talk about popular HOI4 mods in the mod for HOI4 mods.
>>2445133Someone wanted Huey Long to be a fascist (or actual fascists/nazi sympathizers tried, and apparently failed, to join Huey Long's government), which means he IS a fascist?
>>2445185TNO's US lead btw. No idea why the TNO janny that's posting here wanted to draw attention to him attacking KR and just seething about US politics like this.
>>2445185>>2445189 (me)
>>2445191This guy is completely deranged.
>>2445193You don't even know half of it. His greatest achievement is torching TNO's relations with EaW, getting them to sever ties with the mod completely, getting himself and several leads banned from their servers and even getting several TNO devs blacklisted from joining other mods.>How??? Why???An ex-TNO writer joined EaW and started to talk about TNO's crunch culture. QPQ reached out to EaW to get the writer banned and kept pressing them over it. Just the pettiest, most insignificant shit imaginable that didn't even affect TNO at all to begin with.
Some of you niggers recite TNO drama lore like it's the bible
>>2445204It's the only thing they've produced in years.
>>2445204>>2445098Literally only brought it up because the TNO dev whined about it. All of this is old shit no one except him cares about. I just wanted to pour more salt into his open wounds. It's a lolcow mod that hasn't had any updates in three years so you shouldn't be surprised that it only gets brought up as lolcow content.
>>2445181Not me believe it or not so I know other people feel the same.>>2445133>>2445189>>2445212Ok but this is the exact thing I mean we've brought this up in literally every thread since he posted it like 2 years ago. If I hadn't mentioned it, it still would have been posted eventually. It's shit there's nothing else to discuss here because this thread is either TFR or beating on TNO dead horses. Now why don't you fucking pull up his 2024 election posts people circle jerk about. (Don't even get why we bring these up he's a liberal are you guys actually surprised he supported Kamala)
>>2445287Be the change you want to see.Talk about mods you like, or the mythical mod you totally made but refuse to share.Nahhhhh. Whining about TFR is easier, amirite?
>>2445287Nigga you're the one that brought it up.
And you guys complain about TNO so much but I never see anyone posting to discuss Requiem or RA like they are actually playing. It only ever gets brought up in the form of recommendation. Requiem updated last week and no one cared because it's still on an old HOI4 version. I played it and I think Tsar and Soviets is ok but it's disappointing it's really just the old submod cleaned up with their new russia mechanics which are neat additions. It's kinda lame there's no real post 2WRW content like novosibirsk and I'm still mad they cut the Hall and Yockey post election stuff. I hope the next updates are good I've been waiting on Werbell for years.
>>2445291>Bitches about people bitching about TNO>Does nothing but bring shit back to TNO and is now crying about the fan forksYou devs are hopeless attention whores.
>>2444954>Cherchez la femme
>>2445289Man I post shit from other mods all the time but no one ever gives a shit. I've posted Red Flood shit here. I've posted MDIB shit here. I've posted TOTA shit here. Here's a fucking ANW teaser that dropped yesterday. it doesn't matter because this thread is de facto the TFR thread. Two posts later some retard will write his fanfiction on what kind of mechs he thinks they'll add in the next update and people will talk about that for hours.>>2445293Did you play the Requiem update or do you not actually give a shit about them. I'm not even crying about Requiem I like it for the most part. Can you tell me literally anything about it or are you guys all larpers.
>>2445301Stop namefagging and start acting like a normal person. You're coming off like a jilted lunatic that can't communicate with people.
>>2445082Kill yourself immediately
>>2445301>Red Floodlight on content>MDIBDead.>TOTAToozer hell.>ANWToozer hell.>this thread is de facto the TFR thread. Two posts later some retard will write his fanfictionGEE HOLY SHIT I WONDER WHY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TFR THE MOD THAT IS ACTUALLY UPDATING WITH HIGHLY ANTICIPATED CONTENT? HMMM HUGE MYSTERY.No, you will never stop this thread from talking about TFR. Your agenda is obvious. Just like the adams apple on your throat.
>>2444996There's going to be a Lovecraft thing in TFR, I just know it. Hell, TFR could use some urban myth/cryptid events. >Countdown to war>10: Federal Troops accidentally caught on film flooding into coastal towns in New England by Tyler Oliveria. Stream suddenly cut when the grifter decides to follow them.>9: mass graves and burned fishing villages found in Maine, Massachusetts, and Connecticut by Mercenaries. Sons of Liberty convened an emergency meeting with the Collective in response resulting in a ceasefire.>8: destroyers spotted hitting reefs in the Atlantic with depth charges in YT vid. "What the hell is going on-" the poor bastard didn't see the switchblade coming, caught ramming straight into his boat in a single frame>7: confused guardsmen ordered to burn several forests in the Rockies- complain about their orders to a bewildered Trump who orders them to cease operations. >6: Operators destroy abandoned mine shafts in Appalachia because of 'terrorism.' Biden goes off into a tangent about Hunter when asked. >5: ghost town in Massachusetts hit by a predator Drone, target was seemingly an abandoned farm house. Mercenaries take it down with a Japanese Jammer prototype but are unable to extract any data from the blackbox. >4: Federal troops attempt to conduct a raid on Cornell University. Ambushed by Anarchist Partisans, ending with the library getting burned to a crisp. >3: Fort Nellis locks down. Angela Rose accidentally films a massive convoy entering what looks like a subsurface entrance in a vid, a few seconds in the background. She disappears shortly afterwards.>2: controlled explosions spotted in the hills around Route 93, attempted massacres in the American Southwest stopped by mutinying Guardsmen- victims only seemed to have a shared phenotype. Trump blames Biden, Biden looks confused as Harris blames Trump. >1: dozens of drones spotted in Florida, flying eastward with 'serious intent.'
>>2445426Cryptids and SCP being real would be fun, especially when the mod already leans into conspiracy and paranormal themes with Cognoscenti. And mechs being possible in future.
>>2445418There’s other mods too. Red Flood isn’t light on content what are you talking about?>>2445426Exact thing I mean tho it’s a fucking Red Flood teaser and instead of talking about that mod it immediately railroads into this TFR retard fanfic.
>>2445444So anyways I like the new balance update in TFR.
>>2445426While fun I think that'd only work as a NG+ or Halloween type of event. Adding it to the normal base mod would feel a bit too out-there. It's easier to suspend my disbelief over sci-fi concepts than the supernatural. That should be special, if added at all.>>2445444You've been seething for a full week about TFR being more popular than TNO now, give it a rest already.
>>2445444>Waaah waaah Red FloodThen update your mod. Jesus. There's no reason to talk about it.
>>2445459>proceeds to make dozens of posts talking about tfr which hasn't added a new nation since release it's release 2 years agoRope yourself faggot.
>>2445455I don’t care that TFR is more popular than TNO. I care that in the HOI4 Modding thread 99% of discussion is of TFR and drowns out all discussion of other mods. When you think TFR is just ok reading this thread is like being stuck reading only posts about Fiji content for TNO on Reddit.>>2445459It’s had a content update sooner that TFR by your logic we shouldn’t be talking about TFR until the next mini-update drops
>>2445464To be fair his own mod TNO hasn't done so since 2023.
>>2445455Or make it optional, like Joe flying over the cookooo's nest or Grove Street takin' back these streets and putting those bitch ass ballas down. >NG+That could work. You're ultimately viewing the war through the lens of the President and his generals. The biggest reveal of the /x/ insider was the fact that Trump and several presidents weren't allowed to know about ayyys which is a disturbing implication in itself. But that wouldn't make sense with the Cog... Or would it? Would the Ground Operators electrocuting Abdul while they dig up Sumerian Ruins really know about the higher up's... 'Allies?' Probably not. So the supernatural impacting lower level enlisted, civilians, and foreign operators would probably be the best way to approach it. >>2445459Yep. I know it's hard for the redditors here, but to get anywhere in life you have to work.
>>2445470And your solution to most discussion being about TFR is... To talk about TFR and seethe about how much more popular it is than your mod...?
>>2445464>Red Flood has no updates>OH YEAH WELL TFR DOESNT HAVE NEW NATIONSYou're STILL moving the goalposts holy shit.It's not even true. TFR has gotten update after update with new content. The latest patch was filler, but the three patches before that were massive content patches for almost every major including some of the best content so far (Cognoscenti).That was January and December last year.The next content update is supposed to dwarf all three of those, that's why it's highly anticipated and no one can shut up about it.>>2445470You actually don't care about that, you're just here to sour the mood of the thread as per: >>2444852
>>2445464>>2445470You are a salty motherfucker, aren't you? Here Mr. Reddit, there's something we in the offline world call 'work.' When you work on, say... A project or a job or... Hell, just working out at the gym, you work towards something we call 'goals.' Now this 'goal' can be anything: money to pay rent, a nicer body to attract the ladies, or... Hell, having more people talking about your mod. But when you don't work and you languish around complaining about being overshadowed, people tend to forget about you.
>>2445426Nah, TFR should stay away from anything explicitly supernaturalI feared that cognoscenti would be that, or even worse, break th fourth wall. Thankfully my fears were in vainI do wonder what esoteric weapons for nazbols will be through
>Refresh thread after a full day>The TNOtard is still seething about his dead mod being stomped into the ground by TFR
If you don't like TFR being talked about a lot than start conversations about other mods, crying that TFR needs to be exiled to its own thread only fucks you over since that obviously isn't going to fly with most of the anons in these threads. Also does anyone know what the next planned map expansion for OWB is, will it include Chicago Enclave?
>>2445475This thread is dogshit with or without me. I’m not even the guy who shitted up the thread about templates. I want literally any discussion about other mods. I’ve posted shit from other mods it gets drowned out. The Red Flood April fools update was good! Mussolini’s events were fun and Tukha was a fun addition to Russia and it’s fun to map-paint as him. Try it for the love of god and talk about any mod that isn’t TFR or TNO dead horses
>>2445478Hence why I think the supernatural should be kept as NG+ or in the background. Which is perfect for America: Trump apparently isn't 'allowed' to know about the Ayys, and Biden is in his own little world. The one exception would be the Cog and even then it makes sense: these departments were apparently kept in the dark about one another's existence so CIA ground operators wouldn't know about the Ayyy fields. >I do wonder what esoteric weapons for nazbols will be throughYou could play around with genetic engineering, particularly Uncle Joe's attempts to create a half-ape super soldier, as a way to counter China's reliance on cybernetics. Creating some truly horrifying creatures and super plagues that make Covid look like the common cold.
>>2445490>This thread is dogshit with or without meIt's significantly less dogshit without you thoughbeit.
>>2445490Oh my God you're mentally ill just shut the fuck up already.
>>2445475I'm not that guy. I hate Red Poop but at least it doesn't insist on itself like you faggots. Also even you said the last content was last year so there's no reason to talk about it in 2026. I played cia biden and left it at that, why would I talk about it for another 7 months? Once again it's parasocial discord shilling that I'm not into >>2445477There's no correlation between the effort and the amount of discussions it generates. A balance fix which adds nothing to the game is talked about more than real content. Same goes for 2 year old content which should already be forgotten by now. It's all about le """community"""", shilling and marketing which is infuriating since I just wanna hustle and not engage in this faggotry. You're trying to infest this space and shut down any discussion about modding since you're a raider from tfr who's not interested in anything expect shilling for tfr. It's sad because I used to like TFR 2 years ago but people like you made me despise it even more than TNO
>>2445499>I'm not that guy.
>>2445497>>2445495Play fucking Red Flood (or literally any other mod) and post about it please>>2445499Thank you but you have dogshit taste Red Flood is good play it again. What do you even dislike about it?
>>2445499>Guy that has claimed to be a different person several times says he's not that guy >Proceeds to whine about the same things in the same writing style
>>2445505Your mod is dead and everyone thinks you're a dumb fag just like all other TNO retards. Stop trying to blacken the names of other mods in your asshurt crusade.
Surprised this thread still hasn't hit page 10.
>>2445509I’m not asking people to play TNO I don’t give a shit I’m asking you to explore other mods and post about it. Play fucking Red Dusk. Play fucking Red Flood. Play fucking EAW. Literally do anything and post about it so I don’t have to check an active thread and see it’s 99% TFR in the modding general.
>>2444876Devs have said on that the PTP will make Pol Pot look like a pacifist and that the InSans and Boogs will be close to AWD. Vanguard is less malicious, but will obviously exceed all of them in deaths.
>>2445482I don't think I will. This place is infested with tfr faggots making it impossible to talk about anything else. The only way forward is for you to make your own general. I won't give this thread any of my time or attention until that happens. I'm happy that there are other anons willing to express their frustration but I feel like it's a waste of my time and energy to try and argue with bad faith actors.>>2445505>Thank you but you have dogshit taste Red Flood is good play it again. What do you even dislike about it? From a gameplay perspective it's incredibly shallow vanilla stuck in 2020 mindset that runs incredibly slowly and most of the focuses do nothing but give 50pp. Last time I played as Austria I had to fight 100 brazilian divisions and after capping Germany the war didn't end because Brazil was a major. From a writing perspective it's a disgusting nihilistic leftist mean spirited propaganda piece that features unironic bolshevik apologia.
>>2445514>the InSans and Boogs will be close to AWD.I would argue that Bray's reddit brigade would also be getting pretty close to Methwaffen in the atrocity department. The Cog too but... If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, sees it, or know about it, and that there's now a cardboard tree where it once stood with a whistle ringing your ears, did it really fall at all?
>>2445513Stop seething oh my God.
>>2445513How fucking pissed are you going to be when 1.1 releases and the best you have is the fiji skeleton and yippie toozers?
So when are the TFR devs adding the Messi path for the Cognoscenti?
>>2445519You’re playing a tag from 2020 yeah that’s why. Play Poland or Kavkaz.>unironic Bolshevik propagandaYou suck white general cock. I’m sorry they killed 60 billion Christians anon but I think you can take them being present in a mod set In the early 20th century. To take from TFR it’s boring to play a path that doesn’t hype you up.>>2445526Oh my god if 1.1 released at least I could read about that and actual content rather than people posting their gay Reddit fanfic about how edgy the tags will be.
>>2445538>More complaining about TFR being boring*literal next sentence*>Uhm I wouldn't complain about TFR being boring if actual content came out because ATLEAST THEN people would stop posting their gay Reddit fanfic about how edgy the tags will beNo one can win with this nigger.
>>2445519>This place is infested with tfr faggots making it impossible to talk about anything elseAnon I'm a TFRGAWD and I've been contributing to a lot of the OWB talk, instead of crying like a woman just talk about the mods you like and try to start up a convo.
>>2445538I did play kavkaz actually, it was also pretty boring. >You suck white general cockI just don't like the idea of mothers being forced to eat their dead children and think that demonizing people who were trying to prevent that is wrong
I love Red Flood
>>2445547If that’s boring what’s a fun tag for you?The tsar would have let every mother in Russia starve because he was to busy watching Rasputin fuck his wife and his officers were to busy beating conscripts to stop a minority of a minority faction take power.>>2445546Literally every post I’m bringing up other mods to discuss. Tell me your favorite OWB tag. I like the Viper submod and Lanius. I’m planning on doing a robot city replay cause I heard it got new shit.
>>2445522>BrayWhich tag/path is he the leader of?
>>2445522I wrote up a little prompt for fun showcasing how Bray's subreddit would get quickly taken over by organized crime seeing an opportunity and complete psychos wanting to rape and burn everything in sight. Another little piece featured a man trying to get justice for his wife who was brutally murdered and having to argue with the crackheads in the 'people's court' that the guy they get high with is a murderer. The more I explored it, the more I found a fundamentally broken society that just doesn't work.>>2445541He's doing everything in his power to avoid working on the mod.
>>2445559Mark Bray is the head of the Anarchist APLA and an academic who once pissed Trump off so much he ran off to Spain.
>>2445556>Tell me your favorite OWB tagPioneer Company, I love building America in Canada.
>>2445556>If that’s boring what’s a fun tag for you?Liberia in KX was pretty fun. >The tsar would have let every mother in Russia starveTsarist era Russia was feeding whole Europe with grain. USSR was dependand on US handouts and was importing grain from fucking Canada. But please do tell me how many mothers were eating their babies during the reign of Nicholas the Bloody.
>>2445561Oh. Well yeah they'd definitely get up to some bad stuff due to their inherent nature of being anarchists. But they're the social justice flavor of Anarchists not the nihilistic rape and kill Cascadian flavor so they wouldn't be that bad. Least destructive to most destructive would be GMAC (non including VOTW), APLA Anarchists, and then the Insurrectionary Anarchists.
>>2445482>does anyone know what the next planned map expansion for OWB isMinnesota.>will it include Chicago Enclave?Nope. Chicago and the rest of the Midwest is after Minnesota.
>>2445562Any other Canada tags worth it? My eyes kinda glaze over when I look up there.>>2445566>KX Oh so you like McDonald’s tier slop that makes senseAnd oh wow I can’t believe that dastardly Jew Lenin imported grain to fight a famine after a devastating Civil War and WW1. If only Nicholas wasn’t to busy shutting down Dumas and eating Rasputins crumbs to not rile up soldiers and workers in a time of strife.
>>2445580This faggot is a communist apologist and Holodomor apologist.Jesus fucking christ you are embarassing.
>>2445580>Any other Canada tags worth it? My eyes kinda glaze over when I look up there.Loid's Ministry looks cool but I haven't checked them out yet.
>>2445580Stop namefagging you perpetually angry retard, it's bad enough that you've been shitting up the thread for a full week the last thing we need to know is that you TNOfags are filthy degenerates on top of it.
>>2445594Not only that but he's crusading on behalf of communists against monarchists.Just goes to show you how morally bankrupt TNO nudevs really are.
>>2445566>Tsarist era Russia was feeding whole Europe with grainthat's the point in the 19th century empire had famines every 10 years
>>2445598Professes communism but is actually a champagne socialist or neoliberal in practice. The worst of both worlds.
>>2445601Sad, MANY such cases!
>>2445587>>2445598>>2445601Nowhere did I profess Communism. I’m simply stating the fact that Tsar Nicholas so failed to meet the moment that he allowed a small cadre of marxists who were even shunned inside their own small circles to take power. He failed in such magnitude that literally no other historical figure has matched him. At least Puyi had the Japanese invasion as an excuse. Also I’m an American why the fuck would I defend monarchy?
>>2445607You're not AokoFeetSniffer You are AokoBootLicker.
Paths for this vibe?
>>2445611Id lick her boots too. And the leggings.The communists utterly failed to win in Spain because of their own disorganization and incompetence. There now I’m a fascist are you all happy.
>>2445617>There now I’m a fascist are you all happy.This is an unacceptable answer, comrade.
>>2445568Yeah, but the Reddit wing would get quickly supplanted by people who actually fight. Narcos, felons, military renegades, insane asylum escapees, street gangs, various school shooter types... Those are the guys on the front lines. The redditors who said they would 'debate theory' at Chaz would quickly find that they have absolutely no say in anything at all. Why? The guy running the local gang has guns and a rank of hierarchy with underlings who respect him. You issue an ordinance and... He's just marching into the 'People's Court' and guns down the jury. Then he puts in his own jury and... See what I'm getting here? Christ, the people manning those 'People's courts' would most certainly be nasty HR Karens AT BEST, sex offenders and crackheads with delusions of grandeur at worst. So if someone rapes and kills your wife and just happens to be huffing propane with a member of the jury... Yeah, he's walking. Say you have evidence against Mr. Thomas but he deals to Cracky McGee and Cracky McGee probably isn't the only user in the jury... Your case is dead in the water before it even starts. This thing would be a complete mess.
>>2445612ECR-EU Germany with any government that has AfD in it is literally what that image is trying to blackwash. Bonus points if you fill the rest of the continent with AuthDems like NR in France.
>>2445580>Jew Lenin imported grain to fight a famine after a devastating Civil War and WW1Why would you have to import grain from Canada if you're the country with the most agriculturally valuable land in the entire world? Maybe it has something to do with collectivization which killed the most productive members of the society and reinstituted serfdom, no? >>2445599Commies like to play with the definition of "famine" a lot so when they say empire had a famine what really happened was that some people weren't eating enough because the trains with food relief couldn't arrive in time due to logistical issues. Contrast that with hundreds of thousands literally dying from starvation and engaging in cannibalism because soviets were stealing grain from starving families
>>2445612AFD Germany. Hopefully OTL AFD will be this based.
>>2445642Insane optimism.
>>2445640How incompetent. Must’ve been embarrassing for the Whites to lose utterly to disorganized peasants and soldiers and then spend the rest of your life cramped in an attic in Paris begging for money.
>>2445648Which is why I hope for it.Obviously there is the real risk of them just going CDU with low taxes and legal replacement. I believe that risk is higher than them not getting into government.Still I am optimistic because there is a lot of support within the AFD for the Save Europe Act which stands for remigration and ensuring Europe remains ethnically European.
>>2444810I just finished a Japan game where the GAW death toll was 2 million japs and 10 million chinks after 3-4 years of fighting, not to mention all the other nations’ casualties. I think the KD rates are fine lol
What did the Darkest Hour include? Also sidenote but who makes the German content in tfr? The Russian team? How is that submod for Franz coming along?
>>2445690I think the main team makes both Germany and France. Russian team makes Russian, Japanese and Chinese content, ever since the Chinese team was told to stop developing by the MSS.
>>2445713Glad Chinese content is still being developed even with the loss of the Chinese team, but I hope they still form a new one eventually even if it consists of zero Chinese people living in China.
>>2445556>Tell me your favorite OWB tagNot my "favorite" but I finished a Sisterhood of Steel run. Why does that exist, I'll never know. The Brotherhood doesn't discriminate against either gender, and anyone can get to any rank they want in that organization.
>>2445721Besides the Legion have any Fallout factions ever discriminated based off sex? Afaik discrimination has always been based off mutation levels instead of race and sex.
>>2445713i think its safe to assume the east asian tags have a fair number of local devs by now
>>2445726None that I recall. Which makes the Sisterhood more bizarre. What makes them different from any other Chapter? Their lore says they're a suborder of the BoS, like the Circle of Steel. And, contrary to their name, they do have men in their ranks.Had they kept (or taken) the "Montana Chapter" name nobody would've noticed
>>2445721>why does it existPicrel.>>2445726Fallout oldfag here. There were some restrictions in the early Fallout games, but it was more about general sexism and mistreatment and a lot of that fell under general post-apocalyptic society tropes and some groups like various slavers and raiders weren't keen on women. By Fallout 2 you already had a non-player female paladin though and the only faction that only had male fighters by that point would be the super mutants and that was hardly by choice. Maybe I've gone senile in my later years, but I sure can't recall anything even in the old mainline games of the sory.Obviously this changed over time to be even more inclusive even by the BoS spinoff and it only went further under Bethesda. You're also correct that mutation levels was always the main source of discrimination. It was the core part of both stories in the original games and a key part of notable sub-stories like those in Broken Hills, Vault City and Gecko. Again, this has been a constant in the series since its inception, and it's something that has been consistent in every mainline game even with Bethesda taking over, though it's obviously changed over time depending on who was devving what at the time.
>>2445747>barely disguised fetish>deathclaw girl x woman in power armorI ship it.
>>2445747I don't remember there being any girl soldiers in the Enclave either at Navarro or the Oil rig, though I might be mistaken. One of my issues with bethesda fallout is that a lot of it just doesn't really make sense if we are actually going to engage with the setting honestly so instead we have to treat it as the theme park ride that it is, which is fair. New Vegas explored a bit of the more interesting inter-human persecutions with the topic of homosexuality in the Brotherhood and Legion and specifically sexism with the latter but I don't remember race getting brought up there either. Personally I think the Enclave should be the venue to explore the concepts of race outside of mutation, though I understand why no dev will touch that subject. I always disliked how the group descended from the most hawkish nationalist element of the American pre-war government allowed all races, including Asian, inside of it and allowed their limited supply of pure wombs to fight at the front line. It reminds me of the joke where the villain may be a genocidal tyrant but they would never infringe on contemporary American civil rights.
>>2445757>I don't remember race getting brought up there eitherBoth the Brotherhood and the Legion seem to have black people in their ranks.
>>2445757>I always disliked how the group descended from the most hawkish nationalist element of the American pre-war government allowed all races, including Asian, inside of it and allowed their limited supply of pure wombs to fight at the front lineTo be fair nationalism does not automatically include ethnonationalism, them being Civnats with the only ethnic angle being pure unmutated Humans being the only real Humans. Also on the topic of Asians we know Chinese Americans were oppressed during the Pre-War, but we don't know if this oppression/disdain applied to non Chinese Asians as well so I think the Enclave allowing non Chinese Asians to be part of their ranks is fine/reasonable. However them allowing fertile women to fight on the front line is retarded, this applies to the Brotherhood of Steel as well since they're not fond of recruiting outsiders.
>>2445757https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/SnookieThere were female Enclave soldiers too. I remember this as one of the named ones.
>>2445770I'd love to crawl into her combat armor, if ya get what I'm saying.
>on the LegionI don't think NV does them justice. What we see there from them is essentially a military group and we don't see anything from what is civilian life (not slaves, as they're essentially POWs from the local current conflict. Proper subjects) under the Legion.>>2445770There's another in NV, a vertibird pilot
>>2445778NV was supposed to let you explore some Legion lands and see what life in the Legion is really like instead of just second hand accounts, but sadly the game got fucked over by not a lot of dev time and shitty hardware limitations. In a good world NV would get a remake that improves upon the original in every way and readds all the good cut content, but sadly even if a remake did happen it would probably be horrible.
If PF ever gets unique post 2ACW content there should be something about helping out a far-right France win the 3EW.
>>2445792Very interesting and transformative post!
>>2445757>>2445769>>2445770You need to remember that Fallout takes heavy inspirarion from Mad Max and it's composite media. They never portrayed themselves as realistics, and work more in line with the rule of cool shenanigans. Having female troopers is to fuel the "Wild, realiable girl" trope from similar post apocaliptic scenarios, society broke down so hard that a few girls picked arms and turned into the modern equivalent of berserkers
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3759973824CodeGeass mod finally updated, Russia got content now, after almost two years of delays and version issues, go try it!
How much do all HoI4 DLCs cost in bundles? I can't see because i have an active subscription. I assume it's about ~120€?
>>2445849 Ew brother, ew!
>>2445850Probably more than that due to the huge amount of filler dlcs like armor packs and whatnot. Paradox is greedy
>>2445852Ignore the hieroglyphs, i think those two combined have everything you need
>>2445849What's in the Russia update?No cute girls no sell btw.
>>2445864A few years of content for the Russian Civil war, paths ranges from Nicholai-ist, Europian-ists, commies, Britannia collaborators and more. Part Two will drop soon and will have Russia clashes with the Europia Comission and Britannia Occupation Zones (This is before Japan invasion and Side 11 creation), plus some tech tree revamps for Knightmares, there is some guys trying to come up with better customizations for the mechs
>>2445864>>2445868The main commie rep is a cutie, the Britannia path also has some girlies, didn't touch the others yet
>>2445870
>>2445870>>2445872>They aged up Katyusha and gave her a braided ponytailBASED BASED BASED
Why is the TNO dev in the thread so mindbroken?
>>2442002>>2442020I'm thinking of a way to make the concept work. >Playthrough 1: we just got word New York is flooding after years of war, poor sewer maintenance, and the weight of buildings- the city is simply too heavy. My Consul, we need to evacuate the civilians before it's too late! The minutemen are on standby. In addition, several of our engineers are volunteering to repair the flood gates. >Solution 1: one unit must be in New York. >Solution 2: pay mana to salvage the sewer network. 95% chance of success. >Failure: fail to do either. NYC gets 'Sinking City' debuff. >Playthrough 2: my Consul! New York is in trouble. The city is flooding and... It looks like the sheer weight of the city is finally pushing it below sea level. We need to evacuate the population before it's too late. Our engineers are also on standby to salvage the flood gates to save the city. What are your orders? >Solution 1: three units must be in New York.>Solution 2: pay mana and sacrifice support equipment. 90% chance of success.>Failure: fail to do either. NYC gets 'Sinking City' debuff and 'Carpet' event.
>>2445974>The Carpet:>Ron looked out the window. When the storm started, it looked as if it would dissipate like all storms do. Sure, there would be some flooding but this... This was different. He watched a boat stuffed with people sailing through the city streets, now clogged with debris and dead sea life. The rotting carcass of a whale was getting pushed out of the way by a rapid response team trying to clear a route to the Upstate, predatory eels and opportunistic sharks taking chunks out of the once mighty leviathan. >"Shit," he sighed and closed his laptop. His comrades already knew about the situation out west but there was nothing they could do. He got up and left the living room to snap a few more pictures of the... Thing growing on the lower levels of the complex. Climbing down the stairs, he saw that it had grown bigger with... Stalks? His former comrade who went missing had called this thing a siphonophore shortly before he went missing. >"What the fuck..." He went to take a picture with his phone. Only this time he heard a faint sound, almost like it was music or some kind of sonic humming. And the stalks were different; the edges were lighter than the all-encompassing black of the lifeform, reminding him of deep sea jellys he saw in documentaries when he was a kid. "This is too weird," he grumbled as he turned- "FUCK!" One of the stock shot at him fast, Ron barely dodged it in time- dropping his phone in the process. The spear like tip slammed right into the wall, leaving a huge dent. >Then another, sensing prey, fired after him. "God damnit!" He started running up the stairs. He was huffing and puffing when he made it back to the fourth floor, thanking a God he didn't believe in a few seconds ago that he was still alive. This thing was something else and, risking it, he looked over the edge and saw the thing moving up the stairs. Slowly but surely, as if it was assimilating the old brick and mortar apartment complex as a new habitat.
>>2445985Conceptually, NG+ gives you harder challenges with worse debuffs and, of course, new events. Potentially secret endings not unlike Silent Hill. Before realism fags cry foul, the concept is fully optional, and you will have to unlock the truly esoteric things like or go out of your way to find them. And like it or not, they're still more believable than a Gunther victory.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NPPfunny/s/aEQA5WYWvqA disgruntled TNO dev has leaked several of their new plans and the US Git branch because he hates the lead dev for turning the mod into his own self glorification project and purging everyone that disagrees.https://files.catbox.moe/nry6h6.png - Fijihttps://files.catbox.moe/kbt0ky.png - Puerto Ricohttps://files.catbox.moe/ekymoh.png - New Canadahttps://files.catbox.moe/kt4nfa.png . Congohttps://files.catbox.moe/fuw8zc.png - New Argentina
>>2446070Why is TNO so cursed? I feel like shit is always leaking from that mod.
>>2446070>Dev finally snaps over them adding 14+ years of Fiji content and refusing to do anything that matters Just cancel the mod already. End the suffering.
>>2446081He called DV racist by the way for some reason
>>2446084>TNO dev is an insane liberal No way
>>2446076Treating your developers like shit does that.
>>2446084Probably because of the OTLism and you having all the IRL European empires there doing actual colonialism. Completely unaffected by their losses in WW2 and occupation by Germany in several cases but that's to be expected from the nudev Wiki scrapers running that mod.
I decided to chekc out new vanilla DLC after playing nothing but mods for a while and damn I'm rusty at iti'm getting my shit pushed in as USSR vs Germany, might unironically have to look up a guide or two
>>2446070>>2446076The entire US Git branch of TNO has leaked and been confirmed to work. It includes the unfinished US rework and a demo for Germany that they've worked on for five years. Full version can be found on page 910 of KF's TNO thread.
>>2446070This is what they've been doing for well over a decade? Fiji, Puerto Rico and other literally whats literally where?
>1.1 git accidentally leaks when tfr updates>anons are cautious with it and praise the devs>yippie git leaks due to disgruntled dev>shitshow immediately starts
>>2446251One showed a massive expansion of the ACW well underway and with good progress, the other shows that they spent more time that TFR's entire development history to make less progress on a demo for Germany, OTL America, skeletonizing all of Africa and removing two of the only major wars in the mod. Doesn't take a genius to figure out why one's getting a better reaction than the other.
>>2446170>Most of Germany lacks loc, the demo just bombards you with empty events, GCW replacement doesn't workThis took them five years.
>>2446273>Why does my work in progress build is unfinished????
>>2446275Devnigger cope.
>>2446275IT'S BEEN HALF A DECADE YOU'VE WORKED ON THIS FOR HALF OF HOI4'S SHELF LIFEPEOPLE HAVE ENTERED AND GRADUATED FROM UNIVERSITY IN LESS TIME THAN IT'S TAKEN YOU TO HALF-FINISH A DEMO FOR GERMANY
>>2446275Just for reference: TFR 1.1 is objectively significantly further along than your demo for Germany and it took them less time to finish despite having a larger scope. I expect the US rework to be further along but so far I've only played the Germany demo and all I'm seeing is a tidal wave of missing loc and half-started GUIs. TNO is fucked.
>>2446262I just got done playing another ACW campaign and they honestly all feel the same. You either get a total Trumpkrieg, or the APLA slowly grinding its way to the east. I've seen Patriot Front only win once. The Florida and UN mods do spice things up but we really need another warlord or something to keep the war exciting.
>>2446251>>anons are cautious with it and praise the devsThat's because the TFRdevs aren't giant fags running the mod into the ground, and the content that was leaked actually looked pretty good as well so naturally people generally treated the situation with some more grace and didn't go overboard. It also helps that 1.1 has been making real progress, in the leak the Boogaloo Boy's unique gameplay mechanic was just a rough proof of concept and that's no longer the case.
>>2446381i'm making fun of the tno devs
>>2446397Fair enough, I guess we all are at this point. Absolutely insane that they've not gotten anything done in all these years and just lied to all their dents.
Fucking Britannian twinks..
>>2445868>Part Two will drop soonHow soon? In a few more weeks, or within the year? I wouldn't mind playing the hot commie but there's no reason to even bother if content is just going to run out in three years.
>>2445301im tired boss
Oh boy.>>2446509It's mostly Loc, event writing and prof reading that is lacking, Russia update was stuck in dev hell due to manpower shortages for a while, but after the team got sorted out and new goobers joined in, those issues started to be sorted out.So I expect that more content would be out in two months or so, it will depends if the team will bundle the tech tree rework and the china federation skeleton content in the same patchSonya/Communist Russia has enough content to harrant a try though, you get to fight against the other contenders in the civil war and unify the country. It's just the post war content + conflicts with the Europia League/Chinese Federation/Britannia that is lacking. She and the Euro-Britannia guy seems to be the ones with the most content. There is also apparently a secret path/fail state sprinkled in, dunno how to trigger it though.My only grip with the Russian tag so far is that plays in line with Guandong/TFR America, you spend a year or so trying to fill Russian holes, and then the whole stuff go down after Britannia crashes your economy
>>2446070>Fiji>Puerto RicoJSID
>>2445868Between this and Critical Collapse I now believe in Aryan Internet Theory, gonna download it now
>If you play as the racist and do even a single shred of racism you'll get shot and replaced by a liberal that fights against racismTNO devs hate fun.
>>2446646https://files.catbox.moe/sl8afo.jpegWe know from the Wallace leak that 8 years of Wallace being Wallace is on the table. What we see in the leaked build confirms this old leak. Getting shot seems like an RFK thing where you go to far to fast so you get the Proxmire tree. I think having an actual playable tree rather then just bad end then nothing is an improvement. There's other shit in the build to get mad about like the Focus trees not being very readable.
Of course the TNO dev defends this assault on fun. Of course he does. And of course he's a cunt and tries to deflect away from the fact that it's just a shitty trap path.
>>2446652https://files.catbox.moe/xkpm9x.pngYou can see it in the leak here as well. There's two results for Wallace either two successful terms or the assassination attempt. Do you not want any challenge or diverging paths in a route? We don't have to fearmonger about stuff that's not true when there's already real shit to be mad about like the fact the Amur facelift has been sitting mostly done for years and V+J has had minimal progress in several years.
>>2446656Nigger we can play this shit and see for ourselves how fucked this is. Stop defending your dev colleagues and your abject fucking failures. I know the mood can't be great over at the Devcord but give the fuck up already. You lost.
>>2446658then pull up in the build and show me where the Wallace route is cut. Look literally here's a portion of that 8 year Wallace tree from the leaked build from Kiwifarms. It matches the tree leak I posted above. So there's a Wallace two term victory path or an RFK style you fucked up result. This is literally a reversed version of how RFK and Thrumond function all the way back in Panzer-era first release.
>>2446660What the fuck are you babbling about? I'm saying it's shit that he's neutered and that if you do anything fun you get to deal with this shit. The thing is that even if you "win" all content is still weaker than in the original version released years ago. Stop defending this, you fucking dev shill.
>>2446664I was specifically responding to a post saying Wallace is only an inevitable trap path with evidence that it wasn't. Is your object permanence so bad you can't keep track of two posts? If that content is neutered is a separate conversation.In what way is he neutered? The leaks show you throwing out the CRA like three focuses in. Ironically Mango being a lib he's gonna portray Wallace doing all the shit you'd want in a powerfantasy.
>>2446667Shut the fuck up you illiterate retard and go back to fixing all the thousands of TODO's in your dead fucking mod and stop namefagging already.
>>2446669>"makes a claim">"can you elaborate on that claim">"shut up nigger retarded dev"You clearly have an opinion on it why not express it? Tell me how the content is neutered. You might even convince me.
>Shit up the board for a full week straight >Get surprised when people just tell you to fuck off
>>2446673He was talkative before but the second I ask for details I get nothing. It's because people just knee-jerk believe anything posted here if it conforms to how they feel.
>>2446675>Shit your pants in public >Wonder why no one wants to talk to you
>>2446678Someone post that two panel meme of the two stickmen with one asking why he's smearing shit on a wall and the shit smearer mocks him for asking the question.Perfectly describes what's going on here.
On the Road to '56 there would be a Red Flood before The New Order but first The Fire Rises until the Pride and Fall then we will have Old World Blues.
Does TFR ever plan to make UGVs an actual separate unit type instead of a stat buff for IFVs? I just think it'd be funny to make an Unmanned Ground Division that only has like 500 dudes in it but several thousand killbots.
>>2446650>We know from the Wallace leak that 8 years of Wallace being Wallace is on the tableThe best you can do is still much worse than the OG content where you could remove the CRA and institute nationwide segregation if you played your card rights. What's the point of removing everything to make it more sterile and stakeless? What drives these people?
>>2446910>What's the point of removing everything to make it more sterile and stakelessThe other day I said TNO's version of Cognoscenti was going to be low stakes and the mindless golem hoyim showed up in droves to seethe about how I'm making shit up.Yeah, no shit, I'm predicting TNO is just ripping off Cognoscenti and removing all of the reasons why it was high stakes to begin with.
>>2446910They're driven by politics. None of them play the game and everything they care about is shit that'd be interesting to see in the news maybe but in terms of playable content it's shit. But it being good was never the point. Getting to talk about your centrist politics was. That's also how all of this can be in such a bad state after five years without anyone on the inside noticing.>>2446919They hated you because you told them the truth.
>>2445985Wrote a little more. This is becoming addicting and it takes my mind off work:>NG: the Diablo Canyon Disaster.>You need 40 free factories and 100 mana to repair the Nuclear Reactor.>Or you can use Chinese support and reduce it to 20 free factories and 50 mana at the cost of giving Xi more influence. >Description: Federal Operators, as apart of Operation 'Lockdown,' systematically shut down nuclear power plants. Officially for a very good reason: would you really trust hillbillies from the KKK and crackhead anarchists with nuclear energy? Unofficially, it was a way to further cripple the Cog's enemies. All over the country, they systematically ordered the staff to shut down and lock down the power rods before executing them. >Diablo Canyon, however, was where everything went wrong. The anarchists stormed Diablo Canyon before the Operators could finish their mission, resulting in a bloody firefight that damaged it. With most of the staff dead and getting horribly mistreated by their 'liberators,' it's going to take a serious effort by the state to stop a meltdown. >Success: power and a new event, 'the People's Atom.' >Failure: Santa Maria suffers a serious debuff and a new event, 'Meltdown.' Neighboring regions suffer periodic manpower drains from nuclear fallout. >NG+>You need 50 free factories and 120 mana to repair the nuclear reactor, and three divisions present in the Santa Maria control point. >Chinese support doesn't come cheap, costing a bunch of GDP, lose 10 factories, in addition to costing 30 factories and 75 mana.>Success: power and a new event, "the Nuclear Revolution.">Failure: Santa Maria gets virtually depopulated and you have a new event, 'the Zone.' Periodic infrastructure destroying events and manpower drains.
>>2446910If you look at /tno/ their jannies are trying to defend all their fuckups. A new one is that something is good because TFR did it (better). They're rattled.
>>2446940>The Zone>Kong hated these orders, "so I one time saw these wasps and we killed them," his 'partner' happily recollected, "then we took their bitches and has us a little party. I'd say they liked it, fucking wasp bitches get broken fast." Jose's rotten teeth were reflected in the cockpit's window, his eyes were bloodshot, and his breath stunk of cat piss. Jose's arms were covered with syringe scars, his face with wrinkles, and his skin had this yellowy visage of rot like his body had already entered the advanced stages of decomposition: the classical crackhead. >Kong ignored him as he recollected his great 'conquests;' gritting his teeth as the Humvee prowled through what was once the San Luis Obispo County. Everytime he spoke about the women or worse- the children, his hands formed fists and trembled in rage. He wanted nothing more than to grab his pistol and whip the rotten man to death but the P.L.A. needed someone to keep an eye here, and he fully understood why. Radioactive rain fell on the window as the lead shielded vehicle approached the ruins of Cal Poly. >There were still bodies hanging from the buildings- by the torn clothes he knew they were women. Goddamn he hated these savages and that stupid English 'A' made him want to go rampant. "We're here," Jose announced and they left the vehicle. The two men, suited up for the radiation, got out and approached the campus. They passed by what looked like the art building and- "yo... You hears that?" Jose called over the radio. "I's gonna check it." >Kong's ears perked as what SOUNDED like a piano played inside the building but... A good communist didn't believe in souls, but this place was different. "What are you doing?" He snarled as his partner crawled through a broken window, "orders are orders!">"I didn't vote for them," Jose smugly chuckled as he went into the building. Kong grit his teeth in a rage and followed. They were never seen again.
Damn did idea guy return
>>2446996I think this is a different one. I miss Idea Guy though. He was autistic and most of his ideas were bad but he had heart and livened up the place.
>>2446996Idea Guy supposedly got perma'd.
>>2447002Which one was Idea Guy, again?
>>2447003Good. Total janny W. Thank you jannies for banning him.
>>2447015Was he the Atomwaffen guy or was he a little too.. 'Honest' over what the heckin Anarchorinos would be like?
>>2447015Neurodivergent ableist jannies. Not cool.
>>2447014Idea Guy was a guy that would always introduce himself by going>Idea guy hereAnd then proceed to write the most autistic shit ever without fail. He would occasionally post a good idea once in a blue moon and during some of the worst raids by the TNO devs he wrote entire essays about how they'd betrayed their fans.Out of all the local board cryptids he's one of the most harmless we've had but he was so autistic that I'm not surprised he got himself banned for no reason.
>>2446985Not bad but learn restraint. Bray's a retarded autist but his fanboys will try to get you banned for 'violating' Steam's policy. It makes them a bunch of hypocrites, but the whole ideology is an exercise in inconsistency. >>2447002At least this guy is shitting over the Anarchists who... Let's face it: would be one of the most atrocity prone armies in history. I'm still not entirely convinced Idea guy was banned for his content and the whole debacle stunk of intermodding drama.
>>2447022TNO? Shit, I thought it was the Atomwaffen flavor guy. Now that ban was some bullshit. >he wrote entire essays about how they'd betrayed their fansAt least he cared and was right.
>>2447027He was a good guy at heart but he was also really fucking autistic and people thought he was annoying. I'd trade in the TNO AI sloppers and janny shills for that guy any day of the week.
>>2447027Idea guy also got into arguements with other thread schizos such as mask fag, a guy who would endlessly seethe because Lafayette wore a mask to cover his face.
Now I know how Japan must have felt when fighting those guys.Knightmares are nasty, I just can't take those guys head on,
>>2447062Maskfag kinda won since Lafayette is being turned into a real person. Hopefully he still maintains the persona and mask.
>>2447045at least the ai slopper was funny, but even he is gone now and we are left with the tno jannies and devniggers
>>2447062I'd forgotten about maskfag. That guy was so fucking autistic.>>2447075We didn't know how good we had it during the rein of the AI slopper. Now all we have is Kateryna, certifiably the least entertaining raider in the history of /vst/.
Gotta say, while the overall storyline of the Tsar path seems interesting, it's by far the weakest tag of the four (at least comparing their focuses trees and screenshoots), it makes some sense, since your whole cabinet is composed of exiled former royalty/secret service kids who just hijacked a piece of Russia during the chaos, but that doesn't translate well to play.There is some potential though, lots of cute moments, main tag character feels like a foil of Lelouch sometimes, failures and all.Mod still needs a bit more time in the oven, and I hope part 2 drops soon, but overall, it was an okayish recomendation, anon.If anyone get to try this mod later, stick with the Commies, Euro Britannia or Europia for now
>>2447079Code gay ass is the worst tranime I've ever watched (dropped it at episode 3 without regrets) and anyone reminding me of this shit needs to be executed. Devs for making a mod about this and you shilling for it
>>2447090Why? Just because everyone has shoujo anime body proportions? I get this point though, most of the males look weird.>TranimeGo back, this an anime forum, my guy
>>2447090
>>2447070Yes I did, you can eat my shit and cry about it subhuman retard. Maybe spam tfr discord with messages to the devs like that one anon suggested, that'll work. >>2447099Because it's meaningless lefitst slop that falls apart the moment you think about anything that's happening on the screen. When I asked a fan of this slop some basic questions he replied with "ugh I don't really think about it I just like to look at the anime girls" which made me realize who I'm dealing with. These people have zero standards and I find it downright jarring since it's just terminal gooners having parasocial relationships with 2d drawings.
>summerf/a/g broccolihead seetheAs always, you love to see it
>>2447062At least the NG fag does have some talent in the writing department. Unfortunately, due to how pozzed HOI4 has gotten, he has to be really careful with how he approaches the commies. We saw what happened to the AWD guy, doing the same to a 'beloved' faction will likely get a chimpout in response regardless of how justified it is. >>2447070That's interesting. They might be making her into a chick if I'm reading through the lines correctly. >>2447128Good God, are you TNO fags just a bunch of salty failures? For the love of Christ almighty and all his angels, you want attention? Work on your damn game!
>>2447138>They might be making her into a chick if I'm reading through the lines correctly.I doubt it, but I wouldn't be against it.
Post-Catharsis will be pure mysterious masked men (and ladies) kino.
>Leftists slopDid that nigga even watch CG?Dude is so salty that even started to attack non TFR posters, no wonder no one likes TNO jannies.
>>2447155Honestly, Europe would be so fucked by Catharsis and the timelapse would be so far in the future, that I get the use of OCs instead of people we know, once we go 10, 20 years into the future, it becomes hard to justify people from our era holding the same beliefs of today, specially in a world which saw open all out warfare, while our own more or less abandoned the concept of existential wars
>>2447138>Work on your damn gameYeah, that's not happening. The leaks proved that Germany's team has done fuck all in years. Couldn't even finish a portion of a demo and had to repurpose GUI from the Panzer era to replace the GCW because they couldn't be bothered to make anything of their own.>>2447155That'd make maskfag rope himself.
>>2447160TNO collapsing would be worth it if it meant that Kateryna and his goon squad would stop shitting up the board every time damage control is needed.
>>2447163The 'Nuclear Autumn' is an interesting setting in itself. >America was devastated by the war and AWD launching the nukes in a final 'fuck you,' regardless of who wins. Canada's gone, Mexico's a bandit state- famous only for raiding their dilapidated northern neighbors. The more Authoritarian figures such as Riza and yo boy Rosseau would maintain the thin visage of a nation state, whereas freerer groups like the Anarchists and Neosocialists eventually rot away into nothing. >Japan and Free Asia barely exist in the South Pacific, with gargantuan ships and prototypical underwater habitats hosting an ever-growing portion of the population. They rely on Aquaculture and what's left of Indonesia to feed themselves. Mainland Japan, India, Indochina, the north island New Zealand, and Burma have been largely abandoned. Australia is a big desert infested with raiders. Tas went into isolation. >China's gone. A bunch of feuding warlords kept alive by starving peasants and increasingly poorly understood technology. The Tyranny of the Self is rapidly gaining legitimacy in the corpse of the Mad AI while Taiwan, the island bled dry and radioactive, fails to unite the middle kingdom.>The Middle East goes through a cycle of unifying into a Caliphate before degenerating into warring Jihadists who have an increasingly mutilated understanding of their own religion. The Jews are all gone. >Africa is a total dump. The last stable state was kept around by the Wagnerites but they took off a long time ago. Now it's a parody of its already violent self.>South America is the last bastion of civilization. Spared the chaos of the 21st, they maintain a decaying technology base. Their population levels are not growing however, due to the Nuclear Autumn crippling agriculture all over the world.>Russia, ironically enough, is in a pretty good spot comparatively. The far east was spared the wrath of Loji and the Borealia project bore fruit.I'd play it.
>>2447174I think Kat would go full scorched earth and begin posting actual CP at the TFR cord if it ended like that, devniggers live and die for that MAD doctrine
>>2447186Man..Wagner Soldier State needs to be released ASAP, we need to play as irl Big Boss
>>2447191Well he is a tranny so that'd be in character.
Nationalist Japan in TFR should be able to revive unit 731 and use biological weapons to defeat China.
>>2447186To go a little further...>Canada either fractured due to a famine after a massive Indian migration following the GAW or ended up getting conquered by Riza, Rosseau, or Dolan. Alternatively, the gangs got tired of Bray's shit and launched an invasion into a dilapidated Canada. There's now an interesting conservative movement forming in the Yukon while British Columbia has degenerated into an ethnic conflict between Hindus and Sikhs. >The Anarchist experiment failed in Mexico and now it's a bunch of Bandido kingdoms who attack everyone. >The COG survived through NORAD. The Cheynne Mountain Complex periodically sends out operators to scout what's left of America. They have enemies including...>The Institute: A circle of scientists in the far reaches of North America. They're courting the factions to see which one's worthy of their support, including the Yukon. Divided between the 'Foundation' that wants to passively restore human civilization through economic dominance, the Timmerman society that wants to rule through the shadows, and the Utopians who want to unite humanity under a single federation based on humanitarian principles. >The Global Defense Coalition: Trapped UN peacekeepers in Bermuda are the second big obstacle to the COG. Using a flying Aircraft Carrier, they function as an active resistance to the COG and try to keep the peace in the Caribbean. They also keep watch on humanity's... 'Benefactors' in the Atlantic. >Wagner has a love/hate relationship with the GDC. They both hate the COG and their... 'Toys,' but differ ideologically in how to use them as the GDC wants to destroy them while Wagner wants to use things like the Cognitoviruses for their own benefit. The Congo has seen the two clashing more than once. >>2447196The real question would be whether or not he'd be an asset. If he is- he pulls a Bardfinn and gets away with it. If he's not... Well, I'm sure she'd have a nice long talk with Karmelo about gender issues in the shower.
>>2447241Ultrabased.
>>2447243Shut the fuck up
>>2447266>Thread gets slow>Anons speculate on a setting for a game that will never even come out>TNO Devs still salty as fuckYou wouldn't be in this mess if you actually worked on your game. Code Geass, TFR, and a mod that will never exist... And they still generate more discussion than TNO. Oh how the mighy have fallen!
>>2447270Not everyone is a TNO dev nigga
>>2447270>Everyone I don't like is a TNO dev!!!
>>2447290Sure took offense to the Bardfinn comparison... Don't worry, I'm sure you'll update your mod... After the AOT one enters 3.0.
>>2447290Yes.
>>2447266>>2447276>>2447290Z
Can a good anon post the correct mod load order for OWB's submods? I'm 100% sure something broke.
>>2447312Which ones are you trying to load?
>>2447315Basically all the map expansion ones. ERB, RR, M&M, Fountain of Dreams, ECR, NER and Cuba
>>2447295The TNO release timeline:2026: TFR 1.4 released. TNO delayed.2027: Taiwan invaded, WW3, development starts on Nuclear Autumn, Attack on Titan, Pokémon, and Mad Max mods. NG+ mod release. TFR delayed.2028: WW3 ends with a narrow CSAT victory, NATO collapses, the Great Black Revolt starts, NatBol revival, TFR gets attention for being prophetic. Sonic, Nuclear Autumn, Yugioh mods released. Red Flood updated. TNO delayed.2029: Great Muslim revolt in Europe, Caliphate formed, clashes in CSAT Poland and American Iceland. Black Revolt crushed. TFR is now a major franchise with a first person shooter, RPG, and anime released. Pokémon mod released. TFR delayed.2030: NatBol election in Russia, breaks from CSAT, seizes East Germany with the help of Waffen SS partisans, Democrat party banned after president Barron announces the SANE act. TFR movie made by Guielmoro Del Toro, pretty good. RPG is fun too. TNO delayed.2031: TNO indefinitely delayed after devs arrested as per the SANE act. Given prison initiation by Karmelo Anthony, Thaddeus McMichael, and LeBron James in the shower as per tradition. TNO delayed indefinitely.
>>2447367>Attack on Titan mod>Yeagerist path always ends in a failstate with Eren cucking on the Rumbling and dying in an event chain that's just him having an incel meltdown
>>2447367>CSAT victory, NATO collapsesI think this would happen actually
>>2447373I agree Gunther. If the Attack on Titan fans could amass enough fanfare, they could easily surpass old TNO in popularity. The Eren paths alone provide hours of replayability.
>>2447369>later revealed from leaked roundtable notes that the tno team praised the yeagerist path due to it "owing the incels"
>>2447382Kek, those faggots would think the ending is good.
>>2447241there was an 1.2 build on the git, i checked it out and it did not have anything of note in japan. it did have on korea though, and i wouldn't rule out bio weapons given japan will presumably be able to colonize korea again
>>2447384>it did have on korea thoughHow much work on the Koreas has been done? I wouldn't be surprised if what they teased is all that was done by the time the leak happened.
>>2447389there is a whole lot more than the teaser, most gfx work on the trees seems to be done, though they dont have effects and some of them dont have loc, general concepts and mechanics had some good progress too. considering 1.1 isnt even out yet its good progress, the wait between 1.1 and 1.2 will be 100% quicker
>>2447394Damn, really? Figured next to nothing involving 1.2 would be done. How about Taiwan and Australia, any work there done? Or are NK and SK the only 1.2 tags that have received substantial progress by the time of the leak?
>>2447380Time travel anon here. Gunther and the military's DEI stack act are blamed for the war ending badly. In particular the Gunther maneuver and the new officer corps 41 percent pre battle casualty rate.
>>2447318I think some of those map mods don't work anymore, check which have been updated. I also think you need the country common fix to use the maps extension due to the tag overload.Load order doesn't matter for HOI4, all addons are loaded at the same time
>>2447397taiwan did not have anything i could notice, australia had some gfx done and some mechanics on early stages
>TFR 1.2 is further along than TNO's demo for Germany
>>2447409the git also showed the existence of europe focused branches but they cannot be downloaded
>>2447409The TFR jokes are overdone but so well deserved. Better pick it up you deranged artists, you think losing to TFR is bad? Wait until Attack on Titan enters the fray.
>>2447410>TFR 1.3 might be further along than TNO's demo for Germany>>2447446Want a real redpill? >TNO's OTL Africa is just a cheap version of TFR's OTL AfricaFor one, TFR's OTLism makes sense since it's just our world. The rest is TNO struggling to imitate the conflicts from TFR like the Third Congo War but with less player agency, a worse diversity of outcomes and with an equal amount of playable tags (0). The one part of the leaked Git that's actually mostly complete just removes anything unique from TNO's version of the continent and if it actually releases it'll just become a bland copy of a more successful mod that released years before their rework.If only you knew how reworked things truly are.
>>2447462>Spend years to turn unique playable content into generic skeletons mogged by another mod's skeletonsThe layers to TNO's self immolation are absolutely insane.
Imagine spending 2 years working on an update and this is the only video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibOJ9TZO84E
>>2447512Better to be forgotten after a dud than being hatefully remembered like we seem to be getting with TNO's 2.0 update.>Massive hype>Most overscoped update ever>Barely functions after five years, adds more OTLism and removes most wars
>>2447512I literally just got this in my recommended and was about to post this.Crazy how bad that mod is.
>>2447512The comment section is ABSOLUTELY VINDICATING TNO hate.This is a great reminder that /vst/ was right again, TNO is a shit mod, and that is indeed the majority opinion.
>>2447565
>>2447512This might be the reason why CWIC is kind of dead.
>>2447565>>2447566>>2447566It's insane that TNO and it's failures are the good standard of shit that everything bad gets compared to and the only comments unique to CWIC is that they also had a nudev coup. lmao at the TNO shills trying to deny the leaks.
>>2447565>Post about CWIC being bad>Instantly becomes about TNO being worse>The lone TNO dev trying to hype up his dying mod is likemogged by haterchads>On fucking RedditOnce again, /vst/ is merely ahead of the curve and in the end even Reddit accepts that we were right all along.
>>2447603>implying that modern 4chigger isn't populated by the same people that use RedditThe fact that you know he got hatemooged on Reddit proves this.
>>2447603That's youtube comments section bruh
>>2447155The further east you go, the more normal ideologies you should see. I mean Schwab wouldn't have time to properly clean up resistance in eastern Europe, let alone enforce eating ze bugs.
>>2447605Hard not to know when the link to the leak is just further up in the thread and all comments are about how fucking shit modern TNO is.>>2447606mb I wrote Reddit out of habit since that's where most of this comes up.
>>2447628>mb I wrote Reddit out of habit since that's where most of this comes up.Redditbro...
>ai generated changelogsI think deviate wonned
>>2447409>>2447410>>2447462There is also future content planned outside of 1.2 and 1.3 for Russia. Many paths already have focus tree icons and are likely well into development.>Full content for the National Bolsheviks in Russia, led by Eduard Limonov after a defeat in the First European War.>An uplift for Dugin's content.>An expansion to the Wagner content currently in game.>Full content for A Just Russia, a new path for after Putin's death.>Full content for Mikhail Svetov in Russia and a libertarian-led Russia after a defeat in the First European War.>Full content for Mikhail Khodorkovsky and his corporate coup against Svetov in Russia.>Other democratic paths for a defeated Russia after the First European War.
>>2447658i think these updates will release between 1.1 and 1.2, hell we could even see some of them this year because the russian team is probably not entirely assigned to 1.1
>>2447658Meanwhile TNO touts a rework of a tag that no one had any issues with as thef irst major new content infusion for Russia since Werbell.
>It is january of 2027, two months since 1.1 released to widespread acclaim and praise of the hoi4 community, yippie was delayed due to loc shortages>TFR devs announce the release of more russian content and nick land for china coming in march>Mango promises that TNO will release yippie "soon">TFR releases their promised updates in time, receives much praise>July of 2027, yippie is released to mostly mixed reactions, the update will be outshined by the imminent release of 1.2>TNO manages to crawl back to over 600k subscribers, leaked roundtable notes reveal that the germany demo might be released in 2028>August 2028 comes around, other mods having updated and released, including TFR's 1.3 and the AoT mod>Germany is finally released, 2 months before hoi5 comes out, reactions are once again mixed>Mango finally rests, knowing he owned the chuds
>>2447673>>Germany is finally released, 2 months before hoi5 comes out, reactions are once again mixedAt... At least it's the FULL German content and not just a demo... Right?
>>2447674If you only knew how bad things really are.
All this talk about CWIC makes me want a mod where America has a TFR-esque collapse but it's set in the 80s
>>2447658Really hyped for the Lolberts and Nazbols. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV2abmHwslk
>>2447679
So is TNO officially dead now that we know that their huge update that was releasing in a few months is completely unfinished and their Germany demo made almost no progress in five years? How does anyone even work on it after the whole thing got revealed to be a scam?
>>2447709Youth will save Russia
>>2447733>Pine Tree party in America>Nazbols and reworked Lafayette in EuropeWe need a path in Asia that venerates the young so we can have sensitive young man new world order.
>>2447736Speaking of which, what's the most "sensitive young man" path you can go with every playable country?
>>2447736>We need a path in Asia that venerates the young so we can have sensitive young man new world order.That is just Japan
>>2447724>their huge update that was releasing in a few months is completely unfinishedSo just like TFR?
>>2447749Z
>>2447749The TFR leak was significantly further along than the TNO one but nice cope TNO dev.
>>2447759Still no Dark MAGA btw
>>2447765No, but it will release within our lifetimes. Will DV?
>>2447765Still no Amur rework.Still no Germany rework. Still no Manchuria rework.
>>2447765Two more weeks......trVe pQtriots stQnd by.....
>>2447765>>2447767>Whataboutism
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>>2447786We're gonna kill so much you may even get tired of killing, and you'll say 'Please, please, it's too much killing! We can't take it anymore, Mr. President it's too much!' and I'll say 'No it isn't! We have to keep killing! We have to kill more! We're gonna kill more! We're gonna kill so much!'
Fuck TWR so much. Just tried to give the Middle East update another shake and my Syria playthrough got fucked up after an hour because of bad RNG/not picking the right setting in country paths for AI (so the usual TWR experience). Why did they spend 2 years on this and not finishing their half done Asia update? I want to play Japan / the Filipino rebels.
>>2447769There's casting stones in glass houses and then there's using catapults inside glass houses.
To the anon who still has the leaked git, was there anything in there for Post-Catharsis stuff?
>>2447736Veneration of youth would be fascism. It was a prominent feature. I don't know what Asian country would adopt European-style fascism though. Maybe there'll be a note of it in the junta.
>>2447797couldnt find anything for it
>>2447739Michael Prysner APLA
>>2447797>>2447801The Euro content didn't leak out.
>>2447796When they said "3/5/7 years content" they meant development time to release content.
>>2447804i'm saying i didn't find any dedicated branches for it
>>2447807How far along was Dark Maga? I know by now they're working on post-war content but I'm curious how far along they were by the time the leak happened.
>>2447709Speaking of nazbols, anyone played their submod? How is it? Does it have any endgame content after both European wars?
>>2447709How are they any different from regular natsocs?
>>2447831Nazbols are natsocs but communist instead of socialist and slightly less racist.WW2 nazbols were 1488 tier niggers who wanted to ally with the Soviet Union. They are ultranationalists who believe that capitalism and the liberal world order are the greatest threats to a country's population and must be eradicated at all costs.
>>2447838>ultranationalists who believe that capitalism and the liberal world order are the greatest threats to a country's population and must be eradicated at all costs.
>>2447842I 100% agree with them on that unironically.
>TFR added cavalry in the combat updateLOS is going to be W larps.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1V3JW4HeBs
>>2447854Post screenshot. Can't look now. Can anyone get them? What are their stats? Does it seem intentional?
>>2447870Not him but I saw some Central Asian country with cavalry divisions.
Can confirm, there's cavalry in the unit folder. Hope it's for VotW as a substitute for mobile forces.
>>2447818i wasn't able to download the branch
The CWIC team is now retard fighting with Likgas.http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx57S0Ib1OHrk7W2-cZ0hYgF6nUPSHX-zq
>>2447838>They are ultranationalists who believe that capitalism and the liberal world order are the greatest threats to a country's population and must be eradicated at all costs.Based
>>2447930
>>2447930There's a nearly 100% chance that Likgas will fuck up so hard that he'll make these chucklefucks look good just by being an attention whoring bum.
>>2447930What did Likgas even do to piss them off?
>>2447967He's a massive dramafag so he probably stirred shit with them.
>>2447967>>2447973i think it started on their discord
and someone bake a new fucking thread alreadyi cant post images
>>2448012Yeah image limit is reached, we need a bake.Make sure that the news post mentions that CWIC updated, that TFR had a major unit rebalance patch, that TNO had a leak that revealed their next update to be a complete dumspter fire after half a decade of reworking and anything else of importance.
>>2448007LIKGAS YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>2447673>2029: TNO delays update, logged by 'Gunthers revenge' mod in which the Fhelinger maneuver worked and NATO won.>Development slowed due to Karmelo limiting computer time.
>>2448044>mods about a hoi4 mp game are developed before tno updates
>BakingBaking>Baking
>>2448076>>2448077>>2448078>>2448080Fresh bread!
TNO is a dead mod.
