New update editionhttps://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/open-beta-update-1-is-now-live-not-for-problem-reports.1940877/Any good mods this season? I'm fond of Kuromi's AI at least as a replacement for Anbeeld's revisions
If you're so good at the game you pansies, surely you know how to steer Greece in 1836, right? HELP ME
>>2484533no I'm bad, fuck off
>>2484533This was done on prior patch, but I doubt it's changed massively.Focus on improving relations with Russia. Secondarily the UK, you can get their island state off them for free via the journal if relations are high. Also stops them joining in against you, as they sometimes ally ottomans.Doesn't really matter if you support the German king or undermine him, larp as you wish either way. Hover over the event bar to see what's effecting it, there are some easy ways to change it like removing your German culture generals from armies. Only catch is you want to be Byzantine purple map colour, you need to be a monarchy, so make sure you don't fail it and swap to a republic.Get 20 odd infantry (conscripts are good) to hold the line against ottomans, your first war you won't be able to beat them 1v1, need to get Russia in. Check their likelihood of joining war, savescum if you need, often times they are happy to join for releasing Bulgaria or the like.You can also use the support sepretism button against ottomans, some of your cores may pop out.There are very few industrial goods (I think coal) in mainland Greece, one of the states in Asia minor has a huge deposit, you'll need to take it if.you want to industrialise, definitely by the 2nd war against Ottos.Once the ball is rolling you can expand as far east as you like very easily, Turkish culture has 0 base acceptance for a Greek state though, so you may want to utilise puppets if you don't want revolts, alternatively try for multiculturalism though that doesn't necessarily fix everything. Alternatively just go west, may be harder depending on how strong Austria is, bobbing into Italy may also be fun
How have people found the new beta? I'm starting a new game to get up to speed again after dropping off for a while, is it grand to play the beta or is it a bit buggy and I should go back to the latest full patch?
>>2484905Current beta is fine, not seen any problems in it. Think it's much better than the full patch in its current state.The wars are a lot easier now. You don't need to occupy their entire country and to full genocide to win.
>at war to take state>get event that gives me claim on that state>war goal disappearsHow do you deal with this or get around it?
>>2484533Northern Macedonia, what the turks call Sküpia and the greeks call Vardaria, is a wonderful province. Plenty of wood, plenty of Iron, load of Bulgarians you only need a racial separation law change to accept (still best to go for cultural exclusion).When you get Atmospheric Engine that state will allow you to build up your construction sector really fast. Lots of people go for Ionia because they got PTSD from when the trade system was really bad and Coal was almost impossible to get if you didn't own a state producing it.Also putting enlistment effort will give you 10+ extra conscripts in athens. Use forced march on the army you put the conscripts in to get your army up before the ottomans blow you another hole.Start improving relations with England and the Ioian Islands on day one. Keep a watch on Russia if they lose opinion on you because you're improving relations with a rival. It's best to get those isles early.
>>2484533>>2485127Forgot, you will need railways very soon or northern Macedonia will start losing market access very soon. Though as greece you're supposed to beeline for that right after nationalism anyway.
>>2485181The game... used to make private investment go down when your GDP went too high?It's not good for pre-industrial economies with no capitalists or (rich) shopkeepers.It doesn't allow you to do monopolies but it does grant an extra company compared to similar laws.If you don't want the industrialists to get super rich and take control of your politics even more than they do normally...If you want to nationalise buildings such as foreign owned ones...>>2485387Are your gov dividends more efficient than your dividend tax even when not considering the cost of paper mana? Is having a bunch of rich consoomers bad for your economy? If you were simply going to use that money to pay for more buildings, is it overall more or less money going to reinvestment than through the private owners?I do not expect you to know the answer as it changes depending on circumstance and it's not like there's a diagnostic tool to tell you.
I just want to say I think they did a really good job of choosing icons for their laws.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-188-the-abc-of-communism.1941011/Thoughts?
>>2484533>friendsies with russia>kill ottomansthere is no secret, just make sure to conquer their lands in the balkans so you don't suffer too much from cultural minorities movements
>>2485914i hate planned economy
>>2484533if you want help just post your game as you play
>>2485966Cute ottoman empire.
>>2485914It's cool. I hope we one day get this level of love for the fascists!
>>2486027They shouldn't have had the game go past 1920 in the first placeThose last decades always felt forced in vic 2 as a way to tie into HoI - If facism ever gets expanded upon it should be on the last game update, even if it makes the chuds seethe
>>2485914Neo-marxists are some of the most pathetic cult followers I have ever seen.
Playing as New Granada. I just formed Gran Colombia and took North Peru as my subject. If I'm trying to go for Federation of Andes, should I make a power bloc(Im rank 12)? Is becoming monarchy to get Sovereign Empire worth it?
>>2486027>I hope we one day get this level of love for the fascists!good one, very funy.>>2486109>fascism only suddenly appeared in 1922 with no past.>everything i don't like is fascism.icant
>>2486187yes make one but make a trade bloc and invite the central american shitterstheres basically no downside to power blocs even if you just get no cohesion, the relations are improved back up quickly enough
>>2486267Nice try gpt, but that last "quote" you pulled from the aether gave it away
>>2486269>central americaEven if I intend to annex them? I'm running a mod that adds Patria Grande as a formable nation.
>>2486283well of course not then. personally i'd just protectorate them and keep them around until you go for the formationunless your mod makes patria grande into a major formation with unification candidates where the shitters could support you for free annexation
>>2486267>>fascism only suddenly appeared in 1922 with no past.The history of fascism is really interesting. It arose out of unusually nationalist socialists who were pro-war. But it was a tiny, fringe movement until it teamed up wtih old reactionary forces like landlords and oligarchs.Fiume's model was very different than Fascist Italy, despite aesthetic similarities.
>>2486294>it was a tiny, fringe movement until it teamed up wtih old reactionary forces like landlords and oligarchsicant, can you just skip to the fascism is late stage capitalism part? i'm tired of watching breadtube
>>2486294They could split the ideology into "Revolutionary Fascism" and "Aristocratic Fascism" I guess? ATM there's really nothing that represents weirdos like d'Annunzio. And if socialism has>state socialism (formerly social democracy)>anarchism>vanguardism>communism>utopianism>nihilismfascism could have variants too, right?>>2486297But that is literally what happened historically. Fascism emerged from eclectic socialists but only had a couple thousand followers until Mussolini started appealing to the old power structures, at which point his popularity skyrocketed.
At threat of adding yet more bloat to the laws, I think colonial policy should have a new one.No colonial affairs should prevent or slow incorporating non-homeland states.A new one should speed up incorporating states.And then exploitation should arguably prevent or slow incorporation.The main reason is reading yesterday's dev diary, it feels very, well, commie minded, to say you are either a dirty pigdog colonial imperialist or not, and I'm not even considering "What if communism arrived before the scramble for africa ended", just what the only communist country everyone knows had a policy of... one nation communism.I'm still annoyed that will still be Marx a trade unionist you can slam into leading your workers via event and not an intelligentsia activist, or even just an intelligentsia politician, y'know that role the game used to have that meant "Exists but is a literal who because not everyone wanted to overthrow the government or start mass rallies".
Is there a mod that improves building UI or is everyone just raw dogging it?
>>2486319what the hell is Internal Colonization
>>2486319no they should add more laws and more amendmends and more ways for ideologies of different IGs to change and also more different ideologies across nations
>>2486319why would any workers group support multiculturalism and no migration controls, which will inevitably cause brain drain in the third world and make wages and thus living standards much lower in the nation in question?
>>2486341Heh
>>2486331Promotes migration into unincorporated/underpopulated states, but without actual colonization into decentralized countries?
>>2486341kek, really never do hit them huh
>>2486341
>>2486341>multiculturalismInternationalists were in favor of it historically (usually, there were a few exceptions)>no migration controlsHonestly can't think of the communist theorists ever talking about it either way. I do know Bernie Sanders argued open borders is bad for workers.
>>2486027Full fascist content would be epic. But given most people don't even play to 1910, I dunno if it's happening.
>>2484533>Make contracts with GB and Russia to get bunches of resources >Improve relations with GB and Ionian Islands for journal entry>Royal marriage with Russia for free good relations >Day 1 remove landlords from government, expel their German leader, put them back in>Pass Autocracy >Save infamy by not conquering the Ottomans too quickly. Only take states you have a claim on until they become unrecognized in 1966>Use your infamy on getting North African subjects instead, you can use France to get a foothold>Focus on society technology, get National Sports quickly because the Olympics make you a Great Power>Make the generic mining company first then Kouppas
>>2486319>that will still be Marxthat Marx will still be*Fuck my brain.>>2486331Who knows! Sounds chuddy.>>2486341lol, lmaoI'd be curious what border policy was back in the 19th and early 20th century, since I don't know if the modern concept of a passport was adopted within the timeframe of the game for real countries aka western countries, so I can't imagine how that might colour commie beliefs of what even an open border constitutes. But then this game does have ahistorical mass migration via free-to-use teleporters and I'm certain paradox studios wouldn't become frothing nazis if such technology were invented.
>>2486374vic3 migration is basically applied modern migration to the time which is extremely historically inaccurate as you probably know. People migrating like they do today has more or less never really happened and migrations were usually a collective thing during extremely horrendous times or out of desperation. People didn't really move to the u.s at the time simply because "oh look, the steel plant down in kentucky would pay me ten bucks more than here in westfalen", it was mostly done in waves of lower-middle to underclass people looking for a desperate attempt to evade complete poverty and hunger.Thus "border policies" of the time would be completely different than modern. Yes there of course in some countries, mostly western, where border control would be done, but the states at the time simply didn't really have the ability to nor administrations for modern border control.
(carlist) spain is surprisingly nice even being stuck on traditionalism for half the game
>>2486788You can get your empire back even with normal spainFurthermore, normal spain has all the jounal entries carlist spain has. So with carlists you are basically playing spain, but worse
>>2486793yeah but as carlist spain all my kings are called carlos
>>2486796Yeah I suppose that’s kinda neat
>>2486799actually thought the carlists had something going for them but by the time i realized they suck i already subjugated gran colombia and then i didnt feel like restartingeven traditionalism cant stop the inevitable rise of super companies and industrialist clouton another note getting off child labour for the technocrat JE is still almost impossible
What's the highest birthrate you ever birthmaxed?
Why can't I move Dutch East Indies army anywhere? I don't understand what I need to build to be able to ship them around.
>>2486027I hope we get homofascism
>>2487032Guido Keller was an actual unironic homofascist
>>2487009you need boats
To the guy talking about his dutch east indies becoming independent all of a sudden. Had the same thing happen to me as byzantium. Though they stayed in my block that had a shared market so I didn´t care too much about it.
Always feel a wicked sense of pleasure when a country burns through 50+ infamy to attack some other country and I jump in and beat the shit out of them.
Tip: if a revolution manages to beat your puppet and you, you can still subjugate them again if you pause immediately and if your bloc is a Sovereign Empire
>>2486788>no florida, california or new mexico
>>2487252do you even need to pause, i had a revolution in my puppet win without me noticiing because i wasnt called in for some reason but they stayed in my empire bloc so i subjugated them a few years later again (i needed to save up cohesion to subjugate someone bigger)
I love making my people eat straw for 20-40 years so I can pump up a giga economy and subjugate other countries solely to fill their markets with cheap shot.
I made all the greeks move to Athens and fucked up the larp.
>>2487377>not putting promote national values on every state
>>2487377better than bantus in bosnia desu
Releasing countries in a war should probably incur some infamy, or at least for nonsense states like Wales and Aquitaine. You are fucking over a sovereign state just because you can. At least deleting half of France should cost more war score.
>>2484533Throw Russia under the buss the second they stop fighting all your wars for you. Ukraine is a very good country to make russia release for joining your block and stealing their pops.
>>2487417you dont like getting all of occitania for free?they should also add a way to liberate nations that already exist, like liberating greek land ffom the ottomans
>>2484751>>2484533you can go subjecthood+strong clergy and convert the turks, it will make them more tolerated and strong clergy will give you pop growth
>>2487417there's should be some kind of justification for it irl british media worked nonstop creating fake nations and peoples which then could be used by the british state against it's enemies with diplomacy or warvic3 even has the best example of this from the period with circassian genocide event spam forcefeeding you stuff directly from the british newspapers
>>2487438no you go cultural exclusion and force assimilate, sit on high legitimacy and tank the radicals for a whilereligious bloc is good tho
>>2486297Negro
Has anyone here ever bothered with Cultural Commonwealth? Seems pretty worthless.
>>2487449I'm excited for the new DLC because the Reform or Revolution minigame will finally create an actual use case for PB principles other than Trade Union or Sovereign EmpireI want to create the Third Internationale and enforce ideological orthodoxy
>>2487451You're still not picking cultural commonwealth in that scenario.It doesn't even have a statue like the other blocks.
>>2487333I always pause because they normally leave the bloc after a few days
>>2487452yeah I was using your post as a springboard to lament the shittiness of power blocs in generalit annoys the fuck out of me that out of the 6 principles you get>2 "you're literally stupid if you don't use this" tier strong>2 that are kind of useful but mogged to death by the first two>2 that are pure RP and contribute basically nothing
>>2487449It's good if you want to game the shit out of major unifications, you can make superiberia/superitaly/supergermany by adding the primary culture onto a related target. I haven't tried using it in SA yet but you might be able to absorb central america+mexico into the federation using it as well
Anybody here ever stay as EIC after independence from UK?
>>2487536It's funny they made a block that's completely useless 99% of the time but also lets you annex all of Europe if you game it a little.
Would Cultural Commonwealth be good for countries that are low on primary culture pops(Liberia, the East Indias) to force other cultures to generate pops for them to later annex?
>>2487687It'd be pretty useless for liberia on account of african americans speaking english (and thus being a "germanic" culture) but it could be useful for a subject-heavy country like EIC because same culture vassals are more loyal
>>2487687I think you would be better off using the "Vassalization" edict, get a bunch of mini vassals (think crete, ionan isles and cyprus, malta) and put "national unity" edict wherever possible
>>2487449>some players use migration quotas to GDP maxx>paradox: "Let's make quotas a bloc type!"What is this supposed to represent historically?>read reddit>"youtubers annexed all of europe for zero infamy with it!"Gross Germanium HRE larping? Napoleon Bonaparte?
Has anyone made a guide for idiots infographic like for V2. Trade is kicking my ass.
>>2488120Build one trade center in every state. The AI is really bad at economy so global trade is near nonexistent.
How the hell does this work? How am i supposed to know which parties will work together? Just mindlessly clicking through all options?
>>2488149its not that many combinations to try to get the ig you want in government in a way that keeps legitimacyor you just pick one of the top 3 that are displayed
>>2488149Three things matter for legitimacy: govt type, ideological (in)compatibility, and trustworthiness of govt. japan's starting government demands the presence of the ruler's IG in government because 50 legitimacy is tied to it and the landowner clout is high enough to be a significant part of it too. Bakufu/monarchy also has a significant penalty for ideological differences in government so you're not gonna be able to have a functional government with anything that severely contradicts landowners on law preference
every post on the vic3 reddit is made by trannieshow many of you are secretly in skirts
>>2488155The top 3 are the "illusion of choice" meme:-You can't pass anything-You can't pass anything-You can't pass anything
>>2488149Memorization. It's a shit system because it's dependent on leader traits, so it's not even consistent over time. If you have elections then forget about ever having consistent legitimacy.
It's 1900 and i'm still stuck with Bakufu lol. Just fucking kill me senpai...
>>2488160*commiesAlthough the overlap with trannies is natural.
>>2488202Let me guess, you're playing without the DLC?
>>248820430 Eurobux (+tax +tip) is a tough sell.
>>2488120I would if I had any graphical knowledge but till then.Build as much construction as you can afford without going into dept early game.Focus on building resource builidings for construction early game, wood and cloth and tools for lumber camps.Switch to iron construction when you get atmospheric engine and steel tools.Avoid dept like the plague if you're an unciv, try to avoid it if you're not a great power.Unless you really want a law keep the government parties that give you most legitimicy in power.Keep an eye on goods the government uses. If paper is very expensive and you use it in your government you should increase your suply of paper, if wood is expensive increase your supply of that, etc.This is just my opinion but some farm buildings can be really good early game. Tobacco, opium, fruit, etc. They make you plenty of money and are cheap to build. Consumer goods may be left to your capitalists.
Capitulation in the beta is odd. Enforcing certain wargoals mid-war can cause the enemy country to instantly capitulate the war. e.g., enforcing release Manchuria on Qing will give you all other wargoals for free.
>>2488202You aren't building farm buildings early? That'll cause you some trouble.>>2488204I have done it in the mid 1800s without the dlc. It mostly comes down to doing the normal construction cycle.
>>2488217>You aren't building farm buildings early? That'll cause you some trouble.You're being ambiguous there anon. Should i or should i not build farm buildings early?
>>2488222As any east asiatic countries you should not build farms early. Subsistance rice farms hire twice as many pops per arable land than other agricultural buildings.
>>2488225And rice farms are terrible because peasants produce an overabundance of food. Agriculture sucks ass and should be ignored 90% of the time.
>>2488230There's tobacco, dye plantations and some other farm buildings that under the right circumstances will net you a tidy profit. But as japan they'll produce nothing but the unemployed and unrest till you get your peasants into factories.
>>2488232So anything but rice farms is ok? Japanese peasants want quite a lot of tobacco.
>>2488232Tobacco is the most profitable but is outperformed by wood. There is literally no reason to build agriculture.
>>2488238Only when you hit a surplus of avaible farmland in a state and think you can outbuild new births. >>2488240What about when you run out of avaible wood?
I hate that the mining and lumber industries are the best industries because those buildings have a hard limit, you use iron and coal for everything and when wood stops being important you've won the game.
>>2488245the best companies*
>>2488242By the time that happens you go full in on iron/coal/tools. Demand for tobacco is actually satifsied much more easily than you think. Trade is nerfed to shit on current patches you won't get more demand, unlike construction goods. Agricultural profits fall off hard in the late game.The only country that benefits from building agriculture is Cuba, and even that is only the case for the first 10 years.
Timings to go in on Korea as Japan? It's always so annoying micromanaging when China will be weak.
>>2488273Ally Russia and let them do the work for you (works as soon as you get recognized). Keep in mind Korea kind of sucks and is not worth the effort. Shengjing alone has more resources than Korea.
>>2488273invade russia instead then fight china on land
>>2488291Doesn't work in this patch. Russia actually defends Siberia. It's better to ally Russia.
>>2488288but muh larp
What the fuck is happening here?
>>2488338im pretty sure independence wars break subjecthood only if the subject wins and not before
>>2488348I've just seen Ottomans at war with Serbia, with Hungary supporting Serbia and Croatia supporting Ottomans while Austria sits there doing nothing, all within dual monarchy... Make it make sense.
>>2488354puppet tier vassals can declare wars without their senior being called in and the countries they declare war at can declare counter war goals on them.So you may see your vassal completely annexed because they picked a fight with a bigger badder country.
>>2488362protectorate tier vassals*
>>2487401I got greedy and used the edict mana for consumption taxes.>>2487410at least bantus don't have all of the balkans as a homeland
LMAO, even reddit realized this is a clicker game.
>>2487401I wish i could just deport them instead of assimilating them.
>>2488431kek, i've said it since i started playing.Vic3 is probably the worst, if not at least the most offensive, grand strategy historical game i can think of. To present itself as a historical representation of the 19th century and just so blatantly be nothing more than a the progressive equivalent of a fourteen year old's nazi power fantasy larp is astonishing.Although as a braindead cookie clicker to just consoom, it's actually one of my favourites. Fun and easy to mod too. I think they really should try to lean into the cookie clicker aspect more than the historical aspects if they want a wider audience.
>>2488431yet again i stand here vindicated
>>2488431>>2488487>>2488513embarassing samefag
>>2488532Every thread must have at least one schizo
>>2488532
>>2488431This seems like a trait of many modern strategy games. Eu5 has exactly the same feelings. Just like tik tok brainrot is the natural end result of film all games work towards having you click as many buttons as possible and the more you click the more clickable buttins you get.
Quick, post what mods you're using.
>>2488551Yeah, he seems to apparently feel some sense of duty or responsibility to god-defend this game from chuds on 4chins. He just repeats the same like four lines over and over again>muh samefag>muh haven't played the game>muh chudi've just ignored him hoping he goes away, i genuinely don't get why he's here rather than just staying on plebbit.
>use the war with russia to distract qing>attack>start baval invasion on beijing>win 2 battles, 50% occupation>remove general>invasion stalls>wait>wargoals auto enforce>win
>>2488737how exactly does one play japan in the dlc?like with the JE's and such, what should one choose for what outcome?
>>2488742i didnt really do much, went hardliner in the tempo reforms and barely managed then chilled growing the economy and went into these lawsthinking about dropping guild system, passing technocracy and going full zaibatsu
>>2488765>peasant propietorshipthat's one way to nuke the landlords I guess.
>>2488768desu i got it in like 1870, interventionism right after, when the landowners got a modernizer leader. they basically voted themselves out of existencealso agrarianism - serfdom isnt actually that bad here in asia, spamming agriculture creates unemployed radicals but that way the investment pool is forced to build industry, boosting capitalists in the process
>>2488777while i can't say if agrarianism isn't bad I can say it's not terrible like traditionalism.
>>2488787I think it works well with banana plantations and coffee as the landowner investment pool can be used to industrialize then you can go into something else
>>2488792And unlike interventionism your landlords won't hate it as much and your rurals will support it so it's relatively easy for uncivs to enact it early..
>>2484409Is this game good yet??
>>2488812Im enjoying it. But that's probably because I got it on sale.
>>2488777I had like half the country as radicals and couldn't pass anything.
>>2488880what's your construction strategy like?
>>2488880It means you didn't construction-loop hard enough.
>>2488881>Look at what's missing>Build itLike should i have made more armies and a navy to get some more demand? I had about 40 million gdp by 1870, observing the ai it gets that 20 years later.
>>2488891>>Look at what's missingConstruction and government goods then?You shouldn't bother with consumption needs till very late.I think you'll get plenty of demand by building up your logging camps, iron minds and other things for the construction-loop.
>>2488880dont force ityoure gonna run into radicals early midgame anyway, if you cant get reforms you want because big interest groups block it just sit on a reactionary government with high legitimacy for loyalists
>>2488915I think he should get off agrarianism at least.
>>2488915But how do i get to Empire of Japan then? Afaik i need to get out of Bakufu.
>>2488891>Like should i have made more armies and a navy to get some more demand?LMOA, no. You should build nothing but construction goods until 1860.
Don't simply build whatever is most expensive. Build what will increase government budget the most. Don't look at only income, but also expenses. 90% of your budget will be spent on construction, so making construction goods cheaper will giver better returns than literally anything else.
>>2488925Logging camps are also amazing. The best building in the entire game.
You can, by putting your army in the government and bribing your clergy, get agrarianism not so soon into the game. Both you and your private que income should more than double once that happens.
>>2488855I mean I will pirate it kek... I just want to know if it has more/better content compared to release version
>>2488932Charters of commerce and the update it came with unironically saved the game, it'll never be as chudpilled as vicky 2 but it's still fun in its own right
>>2488934Danke!
>>2488880i really struggled on my last japan run too high literacy is a double edged sword, i didn't get off the ground until like 1900s because br*tain stole korea so i had no subjects to boost my government income
Here's my budget at 1862. Notice construction goods alone take up 60% of all state expenses. Income tax is so small it may as well not exist. Making construction cheaper is always the correct choice 100% of the time. The second highest expense is paper, which is a literal fraction of that.
>>2488921you wait for the honorable restoration JE you get after opening up the countryyou open the country either by presssing the button and destabilizing yourself or getting rid of isolationism the regular way when you get the chancethen in honorable restoration you go for the taikun path except you purposely go shit legitimacy when you press the button (or alternatively just pass oligarchy / any other form of voting afterwards)
>>2488956So you're saying when the Russians come and demand i open up i should take that and not fight them? I did fight them and got a white peace.
>>2488953I think it's convinent to pin the most important goods. So you know when there's a shortage of anything.Also, does the japan dlc block foreign countries from declaring war to open your market? The UK has done so three times by now but I have cheated to make them accept a white peace. It feels a lot like cheating.
>>2488973>>2488972The DLC lets you open up so quickly the AI doesn't get a chance to declare war on you. Isolationism is absolute garbage (it got nerfed) so opening up ASAP is always correct.
>>2488977Well, if you can't reform out of isolationism what then?
>>2488979Bro just surrender to GB when they open your market. If they don't declare then just pass mercantilism. It's not that hard.
>>2488973>i cheated and it feels like cheating
>>2488997The britshitters opening my market befroe 1840 when the landowners sitll have 99.99% of political power feelsl like sheeting.I actually cheated to stop from happening at once.
>>2488953you can't really tax peasantsi really hope none of you reform taxation at a loss just for the sake of it
>>2489001The DLC lets you open up for free in 1838. Japan is a cheat unciv.
Ok, followed all the tips. This is the result lol.
Are all other italian subjects supposed to get up and fuck off with no diploplay to repuppet them as soon as san marco happens every single time or is it a bug? i'm actually unsure.
>>2489036i wish heavenly kingdom happened in my japan game
>Paradox fucked the AI so badly that my fucking nobles managed to build enough opium plantation levels to fire the event that gets China addicted to Opium>As a still-isolationist Japan
>>2489001It isn't that good because your country will get absolutely niggered by journal entries that lock you into being a shithole for decades if you don't manage to reform in a short time period afterwards.
>>2489125it didnt happen in my game either, they just spawned when china collapsed into warlords
>>2489005I get where you are coming from but with 600 cs as Japan you probably don't have many peasants left.
>>2489273LMAO, no. You still have a shitton. You need 2k construction to start making a difference.
>>2489350I don't know how you define making a difference but I haf a 4-1 ratio of peasants to labourers with less construction sectors at OPs year as japan. At that point poll tax is superior to land tax.
Would you call paradox trying to obfuscate technology only associated with Europeans as a kind of universalism to be, how do they say it when it's a bad thing... cultural appropriation?I'm also not sure why this tech unlocks Luddites. I'm also not sure I like paradox's interpretation of luddites. The strangest part is you can find marxist historians who make very convincing arguments that they were trve marxists, or if I put it simply workers are poor and hungry, workers steal and smash, owners shoot to kill, government enforces property as a right and criminalises the poor with incarceration, execution and transportation (exile/deportation/Australia), everyone's miserable at the end of the day. Instead in game,>luddite: only rural folx (yes) and clergy (huh?)>has: victorian or soviet economy law (by the way, luddites were pre-victorian)>bad approval>5 tiers of heavy industry (why not any industry?)>unemployment (yes)>pollution high (... I think SoL should matter more)>for agitators: does not have both industry banned AND isolationismaka they're the anti-progress, anti-industrial, anti-development, anti-player, when, arguably, they should not be an IG ideology but something related to states getting turmoil but with added throughput losses. And to be solved by getting any internal affairs or policing law because worker-owner-government relations are completely outside this game's scope. I mean, you could even just chalk it up as a mechanic that find resurgence when anarchism is "discovered" and remove anarchism as an ideology too. It's basically the same thing, people pissed off that they're poor and random violence ensuing but this time politicians are a target (and assassinations shouldn't be an event that only happens when passing secret police, secret police should prevent the event).
>>2489372Luddites still exist today. Any sort of technological change that upsets the labor market brings them out, but they only become a problem if a country is already having problems.
>>2489376>Luddites still exist today.I've seen indian workers smashing solar panels for what might be a pay dispute (news travels poorly so I don't trust it) but first world countries have solved it.
>>2489382They're not smashing shit directly, but they want to. They're just pushing for the state to do it for them. Nothing has changed.
After trying all three options, I think religious schools is the best option for Japan. Conversion > assimilation, and public schools actually gives you *too much* literacy. Private school is so weak it's barely different from no schools (maxed out it gives you 40% literacy).
>>2489384Well I can remember a few high profile stories from where I am, where strong unions interfered legislatively with rail automation slashing jobs, by using an unfalsifiable 'ealth and safety excuse, but I'd be hesitant to call what I can think of as luddite.>>2489398Who do you need to convert?Do you mean too much literacy because of working class radicals?
>>2489372That¨s a lot of words for an ideology that doesn't happen 99.9999% of playtroughs with the reminder being people who introduce universal suffreage as Qing or Russia.
>>2489408If you're going shinto you need as much conversion as possible. Although shinto sucks so I don't recommend it. In general conversion is better than assimilation. Assimilation is both slow as molasses AND useless, while conversion makes pops more accepted. Too much literacy is bad because it increases wage expectations/radicalism and lowers birth rates. Public schools give you way too much of it, while the assimilation bonus does nothing.
>>2488513lmfaoLaughing at these brain donors is always fun.
>>2489415Yes, I would prefer it if it was removed.
#exrussia
>>2489563Mein Gott, es ist wunderbar
>>2489563why not just, you know, form germany?
btw my europe of 1895
>>2489604i wanted to stay prubia but got turned into ngf, wanted to assimilate south germans to north germans but then i went cultural exclusion which makes it impossibleidk, i could form "central europe" too just didnt feel like it
>>2489606And people said Victoria II Grossgermanium gloating was dead
This is a piece of shit game with broken mechanics that still do not work years after release. Imagine being unable to go to war without some retarded 'diplomatic play' only to then not being able to bring the war to a conclusions becasuse some war goals can't be achieved due to retarded AI fuckery caused by constant secessions, revolutions and colonial wars. You want to add war goals? Fuck you, that's not allowed. You want to join an already ongoing war? Fuck you, that's not allowed. Want to have a somewhat plausible world war? Fuck you, that's not a thing, millions will die due to investment rights in some godforsaken shithole you can't even locate on the map.Fuck this pice of shit game and the fucking retards buying paradoxslop, I fucking hate you.
>>2489858blud spiked his cortisol
>beta patch 3>early troop ships still in next patchfuck
>>2489904Fuck you too. I can't believe just how bad the grand strategy genre was degraded into this retarded 'sandbox' ahistorical piece of shit with flashing lights and pretty colours and no fucking substance so that retarded youtubers can make retarded 'I conquered the world with Niggerfaggots' videos.Everything went to shit after Hearts of Iron 3.
>Wargoal Infamy Rebalancing>Complete rework of how infamy from wargoals is calculated. Infamy is now calculated against a state’s share of global GDP and population rather than a flat value, so that it scales properly throughout the game. It is also generally higher for very consequential states and lower for inconsequential ones (taking London gives a lot of infamy, Dutch West Indies not so much). Costs for non-conquest war goals were also rebalanced to be more appropriate to their impact.All uncivs just became free real estate.
>>2489909>Everything went to shit after Hearts of Iron 3.Can't blame them for not focusing on the kind of gamers that won't buy their games.
>>2489917Who gives a shit anyway, not like there's any strategic depth or grand strategy anyway. Its just retarded AI doing retarded things while you gobble up territory and build the exact same things in every game.
>>2489921Everything restaurant should turn into a McDonalds, they sell the most burger and that means they're the best. Eat your fucking slop.
>>2489923Do you think companies should companies should operate at a loss?
>>2489937Was Paradox operating at a loss before they decided to become slopmaxing faggots? No? There you go, faggot.
>>2489939They didn't get their money back from HOI3 so they decided to stop making games like that, yes.
>>2489946>They didn't get their money back from HOI3Except they did, you fucking faggot. Everything stems from the fact that dumbing down games and making them more 'accessible' to retards like you simply makes them more money and they can sell you DLC #2242 that features your shithole becoming an all powerfull globe spanning empire.die in a fire
>>2489948>Except they did, you fucking faggot. Everything stems from the fact that dumbing down games and making them more 'accessible' to retards like you simply makes them more money and they can sell you DLC #2242 that features your shithole becoming an all powerfull globe spanning empire.that has how Victoria 2 worked though. It was actually easier to turn unciv shitholes into global powers since conquest gave you free westernization mana and westernizing gave you free tech.
>>2489917>17 infamy to absorb venezuela and grao-para immediately as new granada, 30 if you include ecuador (or sub 25 if you ignore grao-para)blobbing's back on the menu, boys
>>2489952Except it wasn't and you couldn't be building steel mills in 1840's as Sokoto.
>>2489958Go tell that to the people posting their games on the reddit.and in vicky 3 you don't get free techs because you hit the magical westernization button.
>>2489964Lmao, not only is that semi realistic, as Oman was a major playor in east Africa, but even ignoring that, you can take more territory with fucking landlocked Buganda surrouned by fucking uncivilized countries in 10 years from game start.You're a fucking faggot.
>>2489977How about you unpause and and comeback how that save went ten years later?
>>2489992Its a lets play by a retarded youtuber. 10 years from that date he's invading fucking Persia and the game ends in a literal world conquest.Faggots like you are the real problem, you'll gobble any shite that comes from paraslop.>b-but you get free tech when you westernizeas opposed to getting free tech from day 1 and no 'westernization' at all, you're already 'westernized' and play as you would play any other country, building construction, iron, tools, etc.
>>2489993Would you be happier if the economy just was about liquor?
>>2489996At least it would be far more realistic than building steel mills in 1840's sub saharan Africa.The entire game is FUBAR. Not to mention you could be raping the first born of queen Victoria and the UK will do nothing because they can't get involved in wars outside pre-war gimmicky 'diplomatic plays' that are essentially this pseudo retarded contract you sign with yourself.Oh, fuck, you were far more succesfull in your war than you thought? Might want to leverage that for more war goals, no? No, that's verbotten, you must use the pre-war diplomatic play. That's real historicity. It's factually impossible to have a world war 1 happen in this game. Italy wants to join in 1915? Fuck you, you can only join the war pre-war or start a completely new diplomatic play!
>>2489996nta but i would be
Beta got updated, infamy costs were reworked. STILL no early troopships, though.
>>2489996Vicky 2 at least had a fabric/clothing industry. According to Vicky 3 the only thing that matters for industrialization is steel.
>>2489964>>2489977Why does Vicky 2 look so much better? I know that a modded screenshoot but still. Victoria 3 art style does not fit in with the timeline at all. Why is everything in bright flashing colours with a bunch of pointless shading and glossyness? Are artists fucking braindead?
>>2490069it looks so much better with the jap mapskin, warm mapmods actually make it look nice but it'll never be as good as hfm vic2
Why does Military Access not allow me to naval transport troops to their territory? I don't see a "docking rights" option.
>>2490081You can only station troops in allies. No even in subjects -- specifically allies only.
>>2490083Thank you. Is there anything inside of the game that would tell me that?
If I had enough money I would literally buy Paradox interactive just to find out who is making these retarded gameplay, mechanics and art decisions so I could personally fire him and everyone he is associated with at the company.
>>2490091>artWhat's wrong with the art? You whiny faggots keep finding new things to whine about.
How do you guys play Austria? Within a year or two Hungary had increased autonomy and i could press form Austria-Hungary due to very high liberty desire. How do you keep that down? I regularly see AI Austria owning Hungary and half of Germany.
>>2490364What does it say if you hoover over the loyality bar?
Playing Europe, USA just turned hostile because I invited Canada into my market union blocc. Should I be worried?
I think all the loading screens look good. Apart from the ww1 one. Looks like a bunch of cosplayers playing around in the dirt.
>>2490000>At least it would be far more realistic than building steel mills in 1840's sub saharan Africa.can you even get steel that early as african country?
>>2490475You can get steel but steel tools but it will take a very long time till you get any use of them and your laws are late stage AIDs
>>2490475>>2490558they dont even start with steelmaking, youre gonna be researching for 15 years before you make steel tools and odds are you wont even focus it but instead research society for market access and literacy which will set back your economy research more
>>2490364Beat the shit out of them, take a couple states in the diplo play for independence, gift them back so their liberty desire drops, then annex them with the journal entry
>>2489909Do you have a theory for why no other companies have filled that niche?
ugh the new beta update killed greece start, you cant offer liberate country anymore, you now have liberate as subject which russia doesnt wantalso liberate country now has a small infamy cost (about 10%, release as subject is 60%)
>>2490475>>2490566steelworking is literally one of if not the first tech you will grab, Sokoto is a veritable world power in 20 years from game startchoke on some dicks, faggots
If state construction of wood and iron is all it took to get industrialized, why didn't IRL countries do it? Were they stupid?
>>2490648The answer is closer to "yes" than you would think. One of the main reasons why economic development was so slow in the past is because development requires production, and production requires investment, and investment requires wealth. For most of history, the people with wealth were either landowners or merchants, neither of which really required much industry to get wealthy, so they didn't see the need to invest in production as a way of making money.When we play a game, we understand the long-term positive effects of increasing production, and so we know that grabbing all the country's wealth and investing it into increasing production eventually makes us more powerful. This leads to ahistorically rapid economic development. This sort of strategy wasn't employed by real governments until Stalin's Five Year Plans.
>>2490640Steel tools, retard.>veritable world power 20 years from game startWhich is semi realistic because it was a relatively highly literate caliphate in western africa surrounded by spear chuckers? No wonder you need to prove yourself by being slightly better at old video games than average.
>>2490665>Which is semi realistic because it was a relatively highly literate caliphate brownoid delusional faggots at work
>>2490666Relatively, not compared to the absolute but to its neigbhours, muslim and non-muslim spear-chuckers.Post your hand and a timestamp illiterate mexikek.
not him and not involved in this argument but a minute clergical class who only know and read their holy book is hardly an example of a "literate" society by this logic europe had full literacy from charlemagne onwards
>>2490670Fuck off brownoid retard
>>2490665Steelworking, retard, is the first tech you'll grab as Sokoto.
>>2490675Keep throwing around that buzzword, shitskin who doesn't know what "relative" means.
>>2490680>hurr durr its totally realistic that sokoto turns into a world power within 20 years>muh relative literacy rate proves thiswhat a dumb brown faggot you are
>>2490681Yes, Oman could have become a regional power but not Sokoto, for reasons.What is if like being an Arab?
>>2490705>What is if like
>>2490707Post your keyboard. So I may know what kind of nonwhite you are.
>>2490711Arguing niggers were actually very advanced and callng anyone else nonwhite is fucking hilarious
>>2490714Define, in the little English you know, what "relatively" means.
>>2490716Says the illiterate brownoid
i declared on hungary to release croatia, banat and trannyvania as subjects (epic new feature in the beta)turns out the game is trying to make them dominions, sees the relationship is invalid and instantly breaks itbravo trannydev, fix your game
>>2490719I take that as you nor knowing what relative means then.
>>2490720broken game with retarded mechanics still broken with retarded mechanics
>>2490640What do you do with these steel mills that you build? Tell me.
>>2490733>what are railroads and steel tools
>>2490743Which you unlock with steelmills?
>>2490745Steelmills are required to produce them, retard.
>>2490746And how long does it take you to unlock the required teachs after unlocking steelmills?
>>2490749You're a fucking retard that needs to be spoonfed.
>>2490753Then spoon feed me retard. Prove you're not just another retard talking about shit you know nothing about since your single accomplishment in life is being above average at a game released 15 years ago.
>>2490758Just because you're too fucking dumb and represent the lowest common denominator for modern paradox games does not mean I will spoonfeed you. Nevermind your retarded ramblings at the end, dumb brownoid faggot.
>>2490760You can't then. Glad we agree on that.
>>2490762Likewise I'm glad we agree you're a retarded brownoid sub 80IQ faggot that needs to be spoonfed the absolute basics. Now fuck off back to your mudhut.
>>2490764Prove what a retarded brownoid I and tell me how it is done. It's simple, prove that you know what I do not.
>>2490766>Prove what a retarded brownoid I and tell me Res ipsa loquitur
>>2490769Concession accepted.
Does everyone play with construction capacity tied to GDP? I just started playing recently and I noticed it exempted the player by default. I perceived it as easy mode and turned it off, but maybe I shouldn't have.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-189-free-update-1-15-features-and-improvements.1941669/Dev diary dropped, TLDR is winter affects trading and naval routes, poland can into congress, cossacks, and copper
>>2490928Fix game? No, add more features on top of the broken mess
>>2490928>Let’s start with the fundamental one, the impact on ships and their movement. If a sea node’s Cold value is high enough, it starts slowing down ship movement speed, up to the point where ships barely move at all when they’re enclosed by ice.So be mindful at what time of the year you send your ships through the Baltic for example. A ship will immediately be slowed down when entering a node affected by severe enough Cold.>The last effect that the Cold has is the impact on trade. Trade Centers whose state is connected to a sea zone affected by severe Cold will have a significantly reduced Trade Capacity, which will hinder their ability to conduct trade of course.So shifting some trade towards an area with less winter problems might be a good idea if you’d like to avoid this becoming a problem.Interesting.
>>2490941The warm water ports of texas oblast....
>>2490720>play beta>be mad that things in beta don't work as they shouldinteresting
>>2490986>play full release>things still don't work as they should
That's rough.
>>2491156>23Ooof
>>2491156No hair for heir
>>2491156The Fresh Prince with No Hair
Any mod for this game similar to GFM/HPM? I like the new mechanics, but miss the narrative aspect of Vic2 mods.
>>2490941>So be mindful at what time of the year you send your ships through the Baltic for exampleNo one is going to flip flop caring about this mechanic every six months in game
>>2491334>brainlets get filteredSkill issue.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3798508151cool mod
>>2491334I think the point isn't that you're supposed to keep track of when you're declaring war, it's mean to make it a pain in the ass to play as a Russia with naval ambitions and force you into seeking out warm water ports like Russia historically did.
>>2491346I always thought "warm water ports" was a euphemism for brown pussy.
>>2491348that's what Russia's naval ambitions was about yeah
Sovereign block would be strong enough if it only had the principles and ability to vassalize countries but the statue giving you -25% Local decree cost just make it plain retarded.
>>2491348
>>2491341idea is nice but suffers from paradox pop splitting, your sudetenland is gonna be 85% czech just like leftover bohemia
The infamy change has changed things for greece. You can grab Albania and its 1 million aryans for almost free. >>2488248Depending on your shipping situation you may get a handy penny dumping your tobacco surplus on Russia through treaties.
Anybody managed to clear Tenpo crisis with the new patch? I seem to be unable to cheese it with the petite bourgoisie from day 1 way - there are not petite bourgoise from day 1.
>>2491519Did the release country changes make it more difficult to get russia to help? Or do you promise the world to them in exchange for an obligation and use that to bring them in
>>2491533Yeah, unless you won't mind failing the megali idea and offer to become their vassal they're not prone to helping you. Made it work by improving relations with Egypt and Sicily and calling them in 1st januari 1840. Montenegro is great to due to all their conscripts and for sitting on a mountain which causes the turks to throw thousands of men on them in hopeless offensives.Does anyone else experience Ionian Isands turning hostile due to wanting to conquer you? Couldn't get them the entry way, had to conquer them.
I wish they sold narrative separately content because I don't want to pay for the ability of putting a few more canons on my ship just for some extra japan content.
>>2491522i did on the last beta patch with rigid order, getting gdp up was the hardest part, ignored the PB>>2491533>>2491537russia wont help without bulgaria, they dont help egypt eitherin my run i attacked the turks alone when they attacked egypt (+ montenegro) and managed to beat the 30 units army they sent with conscripts, they cant keep up with recruitment efforthowever blobbing and deathwarring fucked my economyionian islands also kept expelling my diplomats, i think they stopped at some point in 1880s and let me get up with clergy event
You couldn't call Egypt into your war in exchange for independene?>RomaniaDid you release it or?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3803950977something for the freaks who keep playing into the 20th century
>>2491544didnt tryi released transsylvania banat and croatia from hungary and they just united like this (catholic too)odd because i thought the decision they have is supposed to unite all 3
>>2491549haven't seen the Wallachia/Moldavia union happen in a while.Maybe they fucked something up in the coding.About your gdp difficulties, I do wonder if that's a red herring early game. Your gdp will be pretty shit till you reach the third era technologies and you'll be running into a severe limit from population if you industralize before that,
>>2491549looking at it. you need to have a positive relationship with all great powers with an interest in the balkans and have a neigbhour that's neither a puppet or another countrys vassal.I assume wallachia started with that due to gaining its independence and instantly schlorped up Wallachia.
>>2491574transylvania started*
Greece this, Japan that. Anyone here given Wallachia a try? All that iron and coal and having the danube MAP bonus in your capital must do something.
>>2491578It's very much a meme playthrough, especially if you can form a cultural commonwealth and add romanian culture to other romance countries and annex them that way
>>2491578i did like 2 weeks ago, beating up the turks is cute but after conquering bulgaria youre stuck because austria tends to be friends with russia so you need to be lucky and need germany to shit on them
>>2491634You can eat even more of turkey but at some point you're just becoming romanian byzantium.
If I never gave other countries investment rights, how do random countries like Spain or Portugal own some of my factories? Also, I did give investment rights to Russia and the UK early on, now I only own like 34% of my own GDP. Is this bad? Should I nationalize and piss them off? And once I nationalize everything, is there a way to sell off those to my own companies or financial districts in bulk or can I only set them to privatization and it'll happen gradually?
>>2491719>Also, I did give investment rights to Russia and the UK early on, now I only own like 34% of my own GDP. Is this badProbably. They probably filled your states with plantations.
>>2491719Conquering land doesn't transfer building ownership. Foreign investment sucks because the the only thing the AI builds is plantations. Giving company monopolies makes building purchases for them cheaper.
>>2491670in my game i took bulgaria and thrace, basically just extending to the aegean then made greece and serbia subjects and fed them the resti really dont like how you cant just call someone like greece into wars as an ally for a homeland, the ai never wants it, even when you're basically already mopping the floor with the turks and its just free land
>>2491720Won't those be unprofitable and shut down in the long run? Won't this work itself out as long as I don't subsidize them? >>2491722Ahh, that was it, it's all in land that I conquered. Thanks, anon. Also, is there any downside to giving your companies charters for monopoly in their respective industries? I thought there'd be some advantage in having mixed ownership (financial districts, companies, government, foreign investment, etc) but I don't think this is an advantage in this game.
>>2491825>>Won't those be unprofitable and shut down in the long runIt was a few patches ago since I gave Russia or Britain development rights.But back those plantations would stay barely profitable and hire up all peasants avaible.So you would end up with shortages in food, clothes, furniture and everything else that peasants produce and all your industries would become profitable due to competing with plantations for any potential workers.
>>2491825>is there any downside to giving your companies charters for monopolyincreases the price by 20%, so a monopoly on paper makes you spend more
>>2491825Monopoly causes prices on the good to rise as much as 20% based on how much of it is produced under monopoly, this is actually good for industries like vineyards as it makes them profitable even with a ton of excess supply. Don't monopolize anything you buy as the govt if you can help it
>>2491830>>2491862>>2491887Thanks, anons. I just picked the game up on discount after avoiding it for years. Seems like there's definitely potential, but until a big overhaul comes around I don't know how many full games I'll play. The US fighting Russia for control of central Africa just ruins the immersion.
Building feels like that part in I Love Lucy with the chocolate conveyor belt.
How do you guys handle military ship construction? Just spamming the standard ships or only the most expensive ones or mixing them up high/low? And what ratio between capital ships and screens or torpedo boats do you go for?
>>2492044Like every other paradox game.Build enough ships to move my army around and park it in harbour for the rest of the game.
>>2492044what this guy said >>2492144Paradox has never made a game where naval warfare isn't a boring, incomprehensible chore, and probably never will
>>2492044The meta is capital ship spam.
>>2492195Discussed something similar about this on a previous thread, i don't think it's just pdx games but most historical games in general when it comes to navy.Naval warfare historically has been a very winners take all kind of game which makes it more difficult to implement any sort of interactively entertaining naval strategic aspect. Not saying it can't be done or isn't possible, but just that it's hard to make naval gameplay not just building more ships until you win. The total war series being a bit better maybe since you can actually fight naval battles, but it's more difficult in any sort of grand strategy game. In addition to a navy usually taking up a lot of resources which would usually go to better things with lower risk.
>>2491981Damn, 90 year olds play Victoria 3?
>>2492268It used to come on late at night on Nickelodeon in the 90s
Finally got this after a few tries. Can't go full reformer though, there's just not enough time to pass the needed laws.
>>2492044>>2492231>>2492144Different ships have different "Vulnerability" and "Screening" values. Be careful.
>>2491522It's certainly doable. I got 7 of 8 with the barracks needed queued for one more month just casually attempting it. You have to be extremely aggressive on getting your taxation capacity up and constructionmaxxing with max taxes, though.>>2492411The odd part is that failing isn't even necessarily a bad thing. I used the failure to exile the shogun and get his more agreeable son into place.
>>2491522It's not worth it. You can't get the PB strong enough in time, so you have to build farms/forts. just fail it while leaving a leader you don't care about in government.
>>2492259>Naval warfare historically has been a very winners take all kind of gameI feel like this is a gross oversimplification that you could say about land warfare if everyone had a ledger they could open that detailed everyone's army everywhere in the world right down to the cooks and their mobilisation impact.But then we don't get actual Victorian wars in Victoria 3 (or II), so it's a bit of a moot point to talk about limited engagements, strategic warfare, seasonal warfare, and how the British "fucked" China (destroyed some coastal forts and the central palace) without going into a total war that killed a million Brits and Sepoys.
When will they add proper war management automization like hoi4 has.
>>2492259I think the issue is that paradox games are too wide in scope and take too long to allow such fail states as "losing your overseas empire because you built too few ships".Their only games that does something like that are HOI and those games spans 20 years.
How often do you switch to shitty laws so IGs will support better ones? Like switching to land based taxation so more IGs will support proportional.
>>2492647I do this one, rarely for anything else
Vicky 3 is commie propaganda, if it was historical all communit countries would have a shit economy and the population should starve
>>2492688yes the game is cringe and bluepilled, i should be able to create a powerhouse by remaining a based reactionary catholic feudal monarchy
>>2492699Tbf you can do that.
Any reason to not always go for bronze+iron then tools+steel as your first two companies?
>>2492734As long as you don't give them a monopoly, sure.
>>2492739No I saw the post about paper companies above.Which might be a good choice if you are japan or china.Wood company if you're playing in north africa.
>>2492688not really desu it crazy how much eu5 and vic3 instill the bourgeois hatred of aristocracy and church in players
Victoria 3 is a swedish social democratic propaganda game trying to make you want to kill farmers with a blowtorch.
>>2492743Reminder - the French Revolution was started by upper middle class people who felt they were not upwardly mobile enough because money can't buy blue blood. Peasants and aristocracy had good relationships to another where they actually lived in the same communities.
>>2492647I only do it for technocracy. It's far easier to go oligarchy -> technocracy than any other path.
>>2492756Based upper middle class people.
>>2492756Why do you say it like they were wrong for feeling that way?
>>2492794Because the reform process was already going on. You could actually buy lower nobility status with money, it's just that the old blood nobles didn't accept you as their equals, and the state itself was in a long term process of destruction of the nobility anyway.
>>2492815The reform process had gone so far that the nobles could shut down any proposals that they should share the tax burden.>just that the old blood nobles didn't accept you as their equalsI think the Middle class was right to not feel okay with that.
Do you build by state or by building? 5 buildings of one type in a row, or a group of 5 different buildings for one state?
>>2492860Always build related industries together in one state unless you'd run out of workers there. MAPI means that having your construction industries parked on top of your wood and iron will significantly cheapen their cost to you, for example.
>>2484533The stuff people said about sucking up to Russia is no longer valid with the most recent patch.
>>2492756>Peasants and aristocracy had good relationships to another where they actually lived in the same communities.the peasants were dumb npc bootlickers, some things never change
>>2493048Now the parisienne sans culotte hanging on every word of Marat and Robbespierre like some ersatz-religion, they knew what was going on! >Gets conscripted and sent to Flanders to die
>>2492756>where they actually lived in the same communities.>french aristocrats>same communities as their peasantsThe Bretons were the only exception that did this.
Is "Water-tube Boiler" the best early production to go for technology?
Fuck you guys, I'm making my own Victoria game, in 3d, with actual markets, stockpiles, black jack and hookers.
>>2493103Johan will murder you.
>>2493177He wil rip the Victoria 2 CD case from my cold dead hands
How do I ban slavery in EIC?
>>2492044>>2492144I am gay, I suck cocks, yada yada.Went for a game with an actual overseas empire and I lost a bunch of shit because my navy had to stay portbound and my colonial armies run out of supplies. Worthless 99% of the game then really good when it matters, which I guess is better than the average paradox game.
I will save you, anon, give me a couple of years.
>>2493103>>2493284You could probably vibecode a Vicky game.
>>2493289What do you think I'm doing my man? Except I'm putting my own spin on it, doing it in unreal with a 3D 40x40 km region out of which you transition into a strategic mape. Likewise you will have the ability to place some building and distance (or time) being actually relevant for arbitrage between local markets. This will incentivize the player to build sensible infrastructure such as roads, railways, canals, etc to improve the trade of goods. Also, stockpiles and actual supply expanded to the army as well. I'm making the architecture right now and the market logic, price discovery, firing, hiring, wage competition, inflation/deflation, etc.
Hello frens I turned the great lakes into navigable sea nodes :)
How urgent is it to go from state religion to freedom of coscoience?The former locks you out of some nice things but just can't bother changing it.>>2493355Nice
>>2493369Religious laws don't matter much. They don't affect migration, just tolerance of pops.
>>2493375It does matter for agiators, though I think they nerfed those a while back.Also getting state schools if I want to go full assimilationist LARP.
>>2493379I strongly suspect assimilation modifiers do nothing. I noticed no difference between maxed public schools and religious/private for assimilation rate.
>>2493390That seems likely.If we go by what it says on the can full public education, which is a pain in itself to introduce, only increases assimilation by 60%. Which sin't that fucking much considering how slow it is.
What the hell is this?
>>2493437You're not renewing the Bakufu. Meaning you're not pursuing union of imperial court and shogunate.Time for parliamentary democracy (for daimyo only).
>>2493446This feels like throwing dice, i have no idea what i'm getting at the end. I just want the beautiful red color and flag of the imperium ;_;
>>2493452>when you want to LARP>but are illiterate and can't read>and dumb and uneducated, and don't know historyHistorically, Tokugawa pursued union with emperor.>If the Shogunate is pursuing Union of Court and Shogunate, and either the ruler is a Traditionalist or Legitimacy is no more than 50, trigger the event The Decree of Restoration in 7 daysThe emperor told him to fuck off, and, influenced by mainly Choshu Domain daimyo, stripped him of titles, and abolished the house, which led to Boshin War. Which Tokugawa lost.
Also, Taikun (Greater Lord) is where 'tycoon' comes from.
>>2493375>They don't affect migrationIsn't migration derived from tolerance?>>2493390>>2493421A 1000% modifier on nothing is still nothing. Check the pop you're expecting to convert's daily rate and you'll see why it is or isn't.
>>2493550Migration only accounts for cultural tolerance. Religion is ignored. Only agitators care about both.
>>2493463I appreciate that tidbit, didn't know
