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Which one are you most into, by god alone or silk and silver? Spreading Christianity to China will be meaningful now
>>2484819I wonder how the converter will handle all this
>>2484849Meanwhile adventurers are like a little bone in the ocean floor, hasn't been seen since the triassic...
>>2484817This is the chapter where we finally get to play the men with funny medieval hats
>>2484862Based
Play the overhauls this month and play them well, cause this shit will take a while to adapt. Godherja was out of commission for a year
>>2484868You can use a playset merger+manually rollback on Steam to preserve a campaign anon
>>2484884Speaking of playsets, anyone here playing AGOT with a collection of sorts? I'm used to playing just with the main piece, is it worth getting into submods or is it just bloating it?
>>2484817They really need to rework legitimacy, it's such a useless mechanic rn
How would /vst/ fix Celestial gameplay?
Been binge playing CK2 lately, mostly Byzantium runs but i want to do a pagan one as well. Any character recommendations for a pagan playthrough?
>>2484953>There's a whole ass dynasty legacy about legitimacy>It's completely fucking pointless because it's piss easy to get legitimacy
>>2485008It's a pretty slow start but starting as the count of Gotland is pretty relaxed, it lets you comfortably build up your province until the viking age start and then you're in a pretty solid position to do most anything. Starting in Bohemia is also pretty neat.
>>2485008>Any character recommendations for a pagan playthrough?Anybody in Iceland or Norway with the RICE mod because you get the colonization of Greenland struggle
>>2485054Harald Fairhair specifically is a good start because he's young with no kids and good stats/traits
>>2485008They got Haesteinn in that one?
Anyone here running More Bookmarks+?
>>2485051Both choices are interesting, to the point that i can't decide. I'll go with the easier start, which would be Bohemia if i'm not wrong.>>2485054Iceland sounds neat, i forgot the country even existed.>>2485073Idk :(
>>2485008I really like somewhere in the Baltics (granted, it's playing your home country for me).Basically, because there are different faiths everywhere, with a combination of big subjugation wars and holy wars you can get Baltic Empire in two characters very easily (much easier than Scandi, for example). Plus all your holy sites are in your Imperial borders or close by.And if Gardariki get into a bad war, you can usually very easily just subjugate them too.Con is your land is giga shit and you are prone to getting crusaded.
>>2484817Buy a fucking ad already
>>2485617>which would be Bohemia if i'm not wrong.Yep, they get seniority succession, good unique buildings (lots of mines), and good cultural traditions
>>2485008>Any character recommendations for a pagan playthrough?There's one norse lord north of Sweden after 12th century start datePretty fun to do revival when it's completely lost cause
>>2485795Is he feudal or a tribal, and can you play for more than 5 seconds without someone declaring holy war?
Is there a good North american mod? I'm literally on my knees after adding meso-america and the small part of Canada that we know the vikings visited. I'm fine with cannibalizing anything at this point.
>>2485991I don't know of any mod except for After The End and its various forks.
>>2485999Thanks, while a working map does fix that issue, I'm more dreading having to research and create a billion different native cultures in an attempt to keep it at least a tiny bit historically plausible.Truly the worst case of autism, as this is a private mod either way for my own amusement. Here's a screenshot of my map at the moment.
>>2484819honestly these two have been my most anticipated expansionsI wanted deeper religious content and merchant gameplay foreverI'll go with god alone for now as i've become obsessed with all the many religious doctrines, practices and heresy's of Christianity
>>2484819BGA for me ultimately. The history and struggles of the Church are extremely interesting for me and I think it will both open new ways to play and expand exisitng ones.Though also excited for SnS. Past campaigns I've really felt like there should be more peace content - developing the economy was ultimately very boring with the way it worked and you were driven to just keep waring because it was the only interesting thing. But with SnS hopefully that changes, and gives a bit more direction to wars also.Really looking forward to both
>>2486068Is this you?https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/new-world-information-for-any-modders.1937383/
I bet I could count the amount of Abos that play CK3 with one hand
>>2485736Anon CK3 has steadily become Paradox second biggest game after HoI4
>>2486068>historically plausible.well that didnt deter paradox with sub sahara
did you know that theocratic mongolian vassals, as well as chruches didnt pay any form of physical tax to mongols? instead they had to pray for the good of the khan not in ck3 tho
>>2485991Extended timeline for EU4/5.
>>2486367Imperatorbros, our time has come!
can i transfer my save from this to euv?
>Started as a random mediocre Oghuz dude>Decided to take it slow, no Great Khan decision (the worst and most boring decision of all time), migrated toward the north of China, constantly pillaging and making tributaries at every stop.>Made tributaries of Korean kingdoms, vassalized some of the Chinese dukes, pillaged the Huangdi's capital at every chance, killed all the captured imperial family members, sped up the cycle to the division era.>Hybridized with the Han culture, moved into the conquered lands. Started eating Chinese kingdoms, captured an imperial seal, went celestial.>United China after one generation. My illiterate steppe warlords became perfect Confucian sages with 1-3rd merit ranks.>Despite being outsider conquerors, realm is too stable, no tension, no stakes. Everything became meaningless, boring and tedious. No court intrigues, no strong opposition to the outsiders, no backstabbing, huge rebellions simply nothing.And I lost my will to play again.
>>2485991>Is there a good North american mod?https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?l=finnish&id=2988222130There's a Mesoamerica mod but it hasn't been updated in a year
>build up an OP character after decades>he dies and I have to play as an hier that everyone hates, is in constant debt, and has shitty states>lose interest and stop playing How do i stop this from happening?
I dont have any DLCs, do i miss lot? Should i get some of them?
>>2486594Stop treating it as a game about a single character and treat it as a game about your culture, ie have a long term plan before you start.
i would advice people on how to deal with succession but i dont want paradox to nerf it, as they do with anything fun, all the time
>>2486600Paradox games are barren without dlcs
>>2486594Managing succession is part of the game
>>2486600Don’t buy any dlc, if you look at the store you’ll see an option to buy a subscription which gives you all the dlc for a month. You only ever play these games for a few weeks every 4 months anyway so paying 10 dollars for it every couple of months is better than buying 300 dollars worth of dlc. Or you can just pirate everything but I’m lazy
>>2486594Play immortal celibate characters and grow bored after becoming absurdly OP as a result of your immortality instead
>>2486611>Paradox games are barren without dlcsThis hasn't been true for over a decade. Old Paradox games got one or two expansions and they improved the game. Nu-Paradox incessantly bloats the game with an unending stream of garbage that makes the game worse than when it first came out. HOI4 was better in the early days before the DLC. EU4 was better in the early days before the DLC. Stellaris was better in the early days before the DLC. CK3 sucked when it came out, but the DLCs made it worse, etc.Just roll back to an older patch and stay there, it's more fun and a better experience.
>>2484817Is this shit playable now? It's been six years.
>>2486573Thanks for the tip but my mesoamerica already have more content than that mod so I'm content on that front at the moment, I'm more looking for info about pre contact north america, and to ease my workload for mods that deal with it.>>2486383I'll look into this.>>2486376That's true.>>2486204Not me, but that's an interesting thread. Thanks for showing it to me.
>>2486754No but maybe next year after feudal rework
some normies know about the first crusade, but nobody knows that before that there was crusade of the peasants, inspired by the the same bullshit that was aimed at knights, but unprepared, without supplies, 40000 people.
>>2486849Millions of people who read Slaughterhouse 5 “Or, The Children’s Crusade” know that
Adventurer mode is broken in fun ways. You can move 3 times faster on the map if you travel one barony at a time, and if you have a few prowess knights you can grind all martial perks in a couple months by sparring with them over and over in castle holdings. Any other fun stuff like this?
BWC mod is uphttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3795324986
>>2484819S&S because I enjoy playing feudal and think the econony rework will make holdings more funI mean I'm hyped that the Church will actually behave as an antagonistic, but necessary, organization to bring some internal balance to Christendom, but I don't think I'd ever want to play as the Pope with all of the power gaming nonsense they're pitching it as.
>>2486594Vampire rapist.
Y'all mind if a nigga plays a little CK3?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIys_PZgqjQ
>>2485795>>2485855Erik the Heathen start, I'm doing pretty alright. I'm playing as the first heir I got now and I've already beaten the king of Sweden in a war where he wanted to revoke a title, after the truce I could possibly just claim the entire kingdom and hope I won't get fucked over by constant holy wars. My biggest issue so far is all the fucking pagans in Finland, my lands have become a battleground for all their gigantic levies and prepared invasions so I have to spend a ton of money defending my lands from constant sieges and looting because my liege is too inept to do it.
>>2487280been there done that the real way you supposed to colonize is via adventurer starting in your native land, otherwise how did he get there
>>2487292He didn't know Africa was a thing in the game when he played.
>>2487280>The smoke alarm chirpIt's kino...
Does AGOT take forever to load and run horribly for anyone else? Even on lowest graphics settings possible I have these problems when I can run other total conversation mods of similar scale at the highest settings fine.
>>2487657You probably have a conflict somewhere. The latest article on performance notes how every asset is loaded on startup which would bug it out.
>>2486572You are supposed to stop playing once you get huangdi position, silly>>2487244There will be no economy, it’s a simple powercreep with five +10% tax modifiers on your character
i like how that cuckold jacob says there were no slave trade during that period, looking at their wakanda forever subsahara its not surprising to hear
they say it's because there's no stockpiles in the economy so it's purely just a demand-consumption system
I have a feeling that we just need 2-3 DLCs until CKIII will be similarly as good as CK2 when its development cycle endedalso when are discounts coming out I still need to buy the whole game
>>2487961No huge scale slave trade, maybeAlthough it did exist in muslim countries. In north too but to a lesser extent
>>2488122naah it never existedor maybe it did but its not such a big deal okay maybe it was an industrial pipeline, but a better question is why do you care
i think the mamelukes are neat
>>2488170we need a proper slave soldiers/mamluk mechanic they fought heavily and created two states, with the ones in egypt being much closer to a military dictatorship than a dynasty
I think we just have to accept that any slavery we get will be mods.
>>2488083CK3 has been better since AUH and was already comparable by RtP. There will basically be nothing left going for it after BGA and S&S. The subsequent chapters afterwards will just elevate CK3 to an untouchable niche owner.
>>2487720Do the official submods create conflicts with AGOT?
>>2488466true, once the year is over the only real reason to play base CK2 is for the 769 start dateand thats only if you like it
>>2488466The best and most underrated change they've made is making it so that demesne limit scales with your education trait and not with your stewardship
Hmm, so paradox is making their games for americans
>crusaders become perun warriors if you convert them in to slavic paganism
anons I beseech you, if there any mod that improves the administrative domicile? after all under heaven it feels rather lacking
domiciles are all imbalanced bullshit, feudal is now the worst type of government because of them (at least tribals have "free" maa).
>>2488602yeah but I like imagining my character inspecting the construction of their new tea room so it's ok imo(could do with events tied to them though)
>>2484986i don't know :(all I know is that it *feels* like there's a level of gameplay missing from it but I can't quite articulate it
>>2488602They're due for an overhaul that all nobility can use and be contextually landed as lords without conceding a barony or county (that hopefully doesn't also kill performance)
Have they implemented rape mechanics and flavor yet?
>>2488664just add families striving for power, nothing fucking happens unless you yourself make people your rivals, that baby mode is why the only thing people do in the game is grind
>>2488671>just add meaningful stuff to the game and fix itNoYou will buy Oceania DLC and enjoy new aborigine culture.You will also enjoy the videos where youtubers play as aborigine and make LOL INCEST and DEVOURING POPE as ABORIGINE videos.
>>2488692i dont think they will go further, all under heaven was made to grab nationalistic chinese playerbase and thats it
>>2488697didnt affect the playerbase at all btw, so rather it was made to capitalize on the big audience of that big chinese mod (that got fucked in the process)
>>2484986let the emperor actually do something
>>2484986Have it not be repetitive examslop
>ek2>swap to Tiber after he controlled all of E_Cyrodiil, E_Valenwood to see if he could make Tamriel>he actually could>use console to push him into holding most of Tamriel>he never takes the decision, abruptly gets killed by a beast on the road>his son can still use the Unification CB, get him to mop up the rest>still won't declare TamrielFuck, man
>>2488600https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3340544163Unbalanced, East Asian estates need to be nerfed into the ground.
>>2484986The dynastic cycle is too static. There's no real risk of mass rebelion during the advancement or expansion eras.The movements are mostly made of characters that were asked to join them rather than having the same intrests as the movement. And thus always have roughly the same membership and power between them.Ceremonial monarchs are cool and the decision to disallow them for celstial is weird given it seems like the goal of the conservatives.Governors have nothing to do. They can't build armies or declare wars. Administration is abstracted away. Movements don't do anything of note. There's always some position opening up so politiking for appointments like in Admin is pointless. Merit is a waiting game with little you can do to influence it.Exams are boring, always having the same sequence of events happen every time. There are effectively unlimited exams which means there will never be a crisis of only a few high merit characters.Exams are percentage based passes with little failure. AI is effectively set to only use low or mediocre standards which is a 90-85% pass rate. In the imperial exam, all 10 AI palace entrants pass, and 20% of the metropolitan that failed to get in also pass the palace exam, which is an absurd amount of people to pass the height of merit.Large families get absurd influence generation, also a problem in admin. Celestial estates can generate more income than some duchies. The permenant house modifiers you can get for being an honored minister are absurdly overpowered but the AI can't get them while a player is ingame for some reason.Factions are toothless without MAAs, which most governors lack. The AI governors can effectively only use treasury for buildings, which makes them income spiral really quickly.The Grand Secretariat is always 70+ which makes him seizing power impossible.The emperor will always have 20 concubines and 40 kids.Also adventurers can't get the cheated in exam secret which is funny.
>>2489121thank you anon, I will give it a try
>>2484986>>2488701is it possible to tie a domicile to a title? would be nice if the emperor got/could build a palace with extremely expensive upgrades that gives you various courtly bonuses, would at least give you something to spend all your money on
>>2484817So what's the appeal of CK3? I tried it yesterday and it felt terrible to actually play and I have no idea how they could make the UI so much worse than CK2.
>>2489186all bureaucracies have a domicile already?
>>2484817>The debtor can use a Repay Loan Interaction whenever they can actually afford it. If they refuse, they lose Prestige, your Houses grow colder toward each other, and repeated refusals will make Rivals of you. The gold, however, is still owed. Death is no escape either, since loans are inheritable.i can already see the braindead ai getting stuck in century long debt spirals
fucking well poisoners
>>2489277bold of you to assume these mechanics exist outside of player's gameplay as a merchant
>>2489283The bubonic plague must flow anon. Such is the medieval ages.
>>2489266when you become the emperor of china you lose your domicile
>>2489312without mongoloids that americans glorify for some reason it would have never spread to europe>According to historical accounts by the contemporary writer Gabriele de' Mussi, the Mongol commander, Khan Jani Beg, ordered his forces to catapult plague-infected corpses over the city walls to infect the defenders.
>>2489323thats unfortunate, why did they do that
btw theocratic christian rulers should be able to heavily capitalize on the black death and other plagues, historically they were receiving huge sums of money and land from nobility and peasantry to secure the place in heaven as they believed
>>2489332That's fucked up. I should write up 95 criticisms to that.
>>2489337sorry but thats excommunication
i wonder how much more power a secular religious head will have in the new system
>>2489326Obsessed Europoor, Mongols mog you
>Trade posts extend the range of trade routes>You get a cb on counties housing your trade post that border you or the sea Setting up trade routes from China all the way to Europe might be fun.
Reminder, turn ALL the holdings of Westeros into castles for the true feudal experience
>>2489347They tried that in the 1800s abd he ended up getting his head cutt off.
>>2489560In the S&S update the world just consisting of castle towns will be gone with emergent holding sprawl
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/silk-silver-dev-diary-6-merchants-republics-the-silk-road.1941561/Dev Diary 208/S&S 6 - Merchants 7 Republics infoPrevious DD 203 - Adventurer Changes >>2429973Previous BGA DD: 5 - Investiture Controversy >>2476902 [Sep 30 Release]; DD 6 about game optimization. To get next 2 DD before releasePrevious S&S DD: 5 - Iteration (feedback) >>2479877 [Q4 Release, after October]Was busy todayOverall>traditions updated for S&S >Silk Road Situation available to owners of Silk and Silver dlc, even if they aren't participating in the Dynastic Cycle; updated for merchant play>Usury added as a doctrine to faith/ritesMerchants>can be paid by landed rulers to run goods for 10 years, but no experience>can also manage traders for your company>can poach other company's traders to yours>all merchants can provide loans to as many people want them - open interest (25% return), disguise interest (10% return), no interest (no additional return)>can increase Trade Expertise by sharing with friends or stealing from enemies>Trade Opportunities can damage other trade companies, or even result in a hostile merger>war profiteer merged into creditor, only 4 types now>capstone decisions for reaching Company PurposesRepublics>County-tier republics are locked to Communal administration>laws, domicile (mostly the same as Merchants), and trade posts are main ways of expansion for patricians>Assembly has to vote on new laws, pending existing laws>House Ambitions tie into Patrician Ranking within the republic>popular opinion within capital city has affects on patricians and can possibly overthrow the doge>trade posts are districts built in baronies, and have their own range of building upgrades>can start trade routes from your trade posts
>>2489283It is funny that they posted a bugged image to a dev diary. https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Situation#The_Silk_Road it's supposed to be +1% prosperity growth and yet at no point did they realize this....
>>2489706So the actual merchant/trade stuff is mainly stuff that already exist through mods? Classic paradox.
Does anyone know where in the files the length for (hostile) plot advancement ticks is? Pretty ridiculous that the base time for kidnapping ticks is 5 months. All the plots take over-long desu, but murder and kidnapping are crazy. Especially when I just want to kidnap lowborns and maidens to forcefully recruit to my adventuring crew instead of paying a king's ransom to a peasant.
>>2489762common\script_values\00_scheme_values.txt base_phase_length_value. There's three of them, t3 for short, t2 for medium, t1 for long. t2 is for kidnapping. Not all of them use it, convert_to_witchcraft has it set manually to 185 for example. AI is constantly scheming (though not very good at it), modify at your own risk.
>>2489660Explain that, are they adding changeable holdings, turning a castle into a city?
>>2489762Both schemes and activities should take only half the time they do. Luckily activities has a mod for it.
>>2489517Like they did historically? Oh wait they didn't.
>>2489771Holdings will over time have sprawl emerge as eras pass and prosperity and settlement increases instead of just being a few buildings immutable over centuries
>play CK2 HIP>every law that tightens control over noble incurs opinion penalty>you can end up with something like -20 penaltyAt first I hated it but I've come to realize you can't just pass all the laws as you wanted in vanilla and forget about vassal management. You have to plan around tard-wrangling and prepare your heir accordingly.Other than that HIP is a good mod, I like the option they added to play as non-dynastic heir. I could try to finally run a theocracy with it.
>>2490793it's like how adopting imperial administration requires absolute crown authority, and I always was fine having some minor council privileges because it increased vassal limitIt's fun to actually have sone political decisions
>>2485008My favourite CK2 campaign is Start: Herbert of Vermandois, do the French vassal dicking around thing until the first crusade. Go on crusade to Jerusalem, get the kingdom and play as your beneficiary. Then rebuild a Karling empire in Outre-mer and try to become Byzantine emperor so you can restore Rome, or at least Latin Emperor. Best pagan start imo is Ivar the Boneless. The isles is like a mini Scandinavia but you’re right there in raiding country.
>>2484819For me it's S&S. I already play as adventurer 90% of the time, so actually being able to do stuff besides schemes and merc duties for hours on end would really add to that vibe (though traveling around the world forcibly recruiting children with good traits is pretty fun). And I almost never play Christian (at least mainline) even when I play normal runs, so that doesn't much interest me.
Another BGA stream got shadowdropped again, starts in 10 minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZlrfZ6Bo_c
>>2491007i cant watch that assholish lolcow when he isnt reading the script
>In By God Alone you're able to build grand cathedrals in provinces to eventually make them new holy sites I have three wishes that may or may not end up coming true:>I wish that after taking over a province containing enemy holy site I can just convert their grand mosque or astray cathedral Into proper temple of my own faith >I wish the feature of making new holy sites isn't christian exclusive so I can pull Hagia Sophia but as pagans>With new rites system and pre-schism mechanic I wish I can have reformed pagans with other folk religion synergy with local customs (implied in game but every foreign culture ends up either worshipping my religion exactly the same way as I do or hating my guts for being astray or even hostile)
I almost feel bad for the Umayyad's.
>>2491121did they say anything about pagan holy sites?
>>2491007why are all the BGA mechanics shoved into streams? It seems like Paradox wants to give S&S all the spotlight. They never should have intermingled the dev diary schedule for these
>>2491138No idea, but I believe catholics might turn pagan gods into saints if pdx wants to do bare minimum. While the primary Focus Will be Catholic or chalcedonian christian, who knows?
Anybody tried DLSS5 yet?
>>2491122Johan Andersson and his Catalonian THUGS have risen up against Umayyad oppression
i strongly suspect retarded AI doesnt know how to transfer money in to treasury in bureaucratic government
>>2491216>economic archetype: builder btwbuilds 0 buildings
Should the custom hegemonies be a thing or should they only be reserved for Romans, Mongols, muslims and Chinese?
>>2491286Classic Roger a Muirebe moment
>play as the pope>push for clerical marriages>push for polyamory>fuck everyone's wives>???>profit
>>2491324>be adamite lmao>run around naked>no sins, everything's accepted>seduce every girl around, become lovers, then marry them off matrilineally>husbands can't do anything but seethe as their kids all all actually mine but legally theirsI wish there was another way to get nudists, because the only tennet that has nudism is full dirty hippy.
>>2491440They added a cultural tradition for nudism, only the papuans and nakkavaram have it but you can easily add it to any culture by diverging it.
>>2489756A lot of things they’ve made were mods before. China, Imperial govts, new start dates, trades, etc. Jell even still there’s stuff that mods still beat the base game in. Like more varied events and vassal management
>>2491228Yes but it should be much more strict and layered than empires. Hegemonies are cross continental, civilization defining entities than just bigger empires.
>>2484864borgir
>be adventurer>traveling through italy>go through rome>pope wants to arrest me and disband my troupe (presumably because not catholic)>already out to sea before before I get the chance to tell him to fuck off>this means war I guess>and I'm the offender??>somehow my tiny army (we're nerd adventurers) spawns back on land and gets beat by pope swarm>not annihilated or anything just beat>meanwhile make my way to spain, bring my army back too>pope swarm doesn't follow>just do my thing>somehow warscore just keeps ticking down>eventually -100, arrested (by whom?) and disbanded Nice game.
>>2491468I downloaded a mod that required 500 counties controlled and either legendary figure prestige level or religious icon level of devotion, but that mod breaks the mongol empire succession. There's also another mod that requires 1000 counties with 90 of them being your faith and culture.Of course there's also console command that gives makes a hegemony without any de jure land with rando name and coats of arms, which is meant for accomplishing Greatest of All Khans world conquest in a single life time, but that's for those who cheat.But I guess I could let few petty kings in Italy go after burning down the Vatican.
>>2491448i have a theory that there is something in the SEA genes that makes them fat, in the game, i keep seeing their lard ass disgusting bodies all the time
>>2491228there should be more hegemonies, they will probably add them later, maybe
>>2491555Weight is affected by personality/genetic traits and going on feasts/hunts. Feasts gain more weight than hunts lose and the AI will more often go on feasts than hunts. They also can't use the lose weight decision the player has so most AI rulers will end up at least slightly fat. It's just more noticeable with the SEA culture rulers since they are all mostly naked.
62 tributary under indonesian AI overlord, never seen anything like that in ck3this is probably because of the mod, Sykes Aggressive AI
>>2491613
>court chaplain asks to become a monk during a pilgrimage>he hoarded 17k gold on the job>allow him>he fucks off with all the gold>dont mind if i do>invite him back, imprison and expel>get all his gold
>>2491496well duh he gives you 3 months to leave and during sea travel you are technically still in the starting land areayour fault really
>>2491496Adventurers have a few things that make no sense or scale too lopsidedly which is probably, partially why they're being integrated into the base game than left as a DLC feature
>play some elder kings>decide I'm gonna do the "Don't ask a nord the race of his wife" meme>travel all the way to Elsweyr>spend like 10 minutes trying to find a cat that isn't 60+ years old>finally find the perfect woman>turns out me can't marry beast races>can't even romance them because of vast religious and cultural differencesThe Altmer took this away from me
Why the fuck are all Mandala rulers shirtless with their gross Jeet manboobs out. "Living Gods" my ass
>>2491666They really needed to have another currency besides gold be the main currency. Maybe use provisions for most interactions, leaving gold for only merc work, big crimes, and critical successes - should have to do something actually impressive to play in the big leagues. Or have something like the admin govs have that separates personal gold from "company" gold. (That should be a thing for all non-primitive gov types desu.)
>>2484817So if Monophysitism, Miaphysitism, and The Pentarchy correspond with the Copts and the Eastern Orthodox, what is the historic tenant that leads to the schism with the Nestorians?Same with the Arians, cause they weren't adoptionists.
>>2491927They didn't think that hard, wait for the Byzantine flavor expansion (not RtP, that doesnt count)
>>2491752>Why the fuck are all Mandala rulers shirtless with their gross Jeet manboobs outIt was a fatal error to extend the map of a CK game south of Egypt or east of Persia. The game is fundamentally ruined as a result.
>>2491666>>2491850They're a fail state for when you lose all of your titles. They ought to be the weakest government bar none, below even barons.But they're currently used as a fallback mechanic in lieu of a better a claimant system or more granular representation of minor nobility.Also it's weird that they didn't fold the Varangian adventurers into the adventurer government.Northman invasions need a rework, the casus beli version is fine. The event version is unbalanced and fantastical which is unfortunate given that it comprises the majority of Norse invasions.
>>2491941yeah, I'm hoping a religious mod by some autist adds in a bunch of new tenants, cause paradox said it would be easier to mod them in now
>>2491927>>2492180They're called tenets, not tenants.
>>2491752You will never be divine
>>2492524They could just play the After the End mod.
>>2492524>like 30% europe, the rest is asian and africanSo… modern CK?
>>2492524You must take responsibility for your children
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>>2491732Can't you just get a rape mod
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/by-god-alone-dev-diary-7-almost-everything-else.1942117/Dev Diary 209/BGA 7 - (Almost) Everything ElsePrevious BGA DD: 5 - Investiture Controversy >>2476902 [Sep 30 Release]; DD 6 about game optimization. Previous S&S DD: 6 - Merchants & Republics >>2489706 [Q4 Release, after October]Saints>Christians requires Dulia Permitted or Core in your Rite>system is available outside Christianity>choose ancestors with 1 virtuous and no sinful traits, then bury them at an Cathedral, Holy Site, or county capital (only 1 saint per province)>confirmation of saint depends on HoF: Chlacedonianism doesn't have one, so it's automatic until the SchismRelics>each saint can provide 4 relics for your courtMonastic Orders>lease temple holdings, champion a tenet, and provide piety & spiritual fulfillment>can be established my dukes with an open barony and a rite with monasticism >can Patronize Monastic Movement to become an order's patron>Head of Faith can disband Orders> newly founded orders pull from a database, weighted by appropriate historical circumstances.>Abbots are not playableOrthodoxy>appears after Great Schism, taking the eastern rites with it>apparently has its own mechanics but not really touched uponGreat Schism>runs alongside the Church chapters (top left) >has several Ecumenical Council events related to it>in Saeculum Obscurum chapter, Christians can choose to sway sides of the schism>if not split by the end of SO, Chalcedonianism remains, if else, the Roman-Greek splitCardinals>3 election archetypes: Pious (Piety & traits), Populist (Prestige and opinions), Powerful (rite size, holy sites, dynasty prestige)>Cardinal cap of 70, Pope can appoint Cardinals>Landed can Reqeuest Cardinalate for Court ChaplainAntipope>for landed king not following mainline rite; pick chaplain or theocratic vassal>ecclesiastic rulers can proclaim self as antipope>challenge HoF or Depose Antipope CBs
>>2493158I hate to offer praise without qualifiers to the Swedes but good shit. I wanted all of this six years ago you bastards.
>>2492951Indy and Sophia have to go there. Bring plenty of orichalcum.
are you going to be able to plunder trade routes in silk and silver?
are there mods that just balance the game, no t flavorslop
>>2494039Not meaningfully. But there are some that improve aspects.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2871648329 To fix the bugs that break balance.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2712590542 For factions that are actually threatening.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2975514448 The only explicit balance mod. Some of the balancing choices are questionable and it's overall quite gamey.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3037969445 Technically this is flavourslop, but it also has a complete overhaul of fertility and marriage acceptance that is superior to vanilia. Very important, don't forget to turn off maidens, courtier marriages, and courtier scheming in the game options.
>>2494039>>2494402I love how the bare minimum for essentially a rpg, including a wide variety of events and interactions, is now flavorslop to this brain dead community
>>2492524your country is no paradise, and this speaks to the fact that you are nothing bettereverything including your computer has been developed in a land far away from yours
>>2494039>mods >balancelol, lmao
Cant wait to play this baddie.
Does creamapi still work?
>>2494930we dont do piracy here
>>2494930Please grow and change as a person
>>2491732>Can be homosexual and a tranny>But can't romance beastfolk The tranny devs are so retarded
>>2494930it workssail swiftly and prosper, buccaneer
>>2493158Looks interesting, first run is going to be mission to the Baltoids as an adventurer, just gotta decide if I want it to be 1066 or 876. Prob the former so less raid cancer.After that, Chinaman makes China Christian.
Have they shown any new clothes for the priests? I'm surprised there's basically no new outfits. They even have outfits on the loading screens that are historically accurate but not in game.
CK3 campaign with the /vst/ boys when?
>>2495546How does multiplayer even work in this game? Voting to pause? Turn based? No pause at all?
>>2495560Events don't pause and instead just resolve to a default option if a player doesn't pick one within 30 days. Any player can pause, only the player who pressed pause can unpause in the first 60 seconds. Game speed can only be chosen by the host.No in-game chat because small indie company.A lot of desyncs, occasionally flawless gameplay for hours.It's fun when it works, but playing with random guys range from week long larp sessions to autistic minmax PVP sessions. Shockingly to no one, intrigue is king in mp sessions as you can just cuck everyone to death, one way or another.
>>2495571From the little I played intrigue is king in SP as well, so no big difference.
>>2484817>DLC will come outRip all my mods. Theres usually always a handful of mods that dont get updated because of some retarded drama or ego
>>2487657I recently found out that I was running a bad BIOS version since retard me got an Intel CPU. Updating it fixed not only AGOT but also loading times AND a lot of crashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DOC9aieSng
>>2495662They said you can play as the Coptic Pope, but I was wondering if you could play as bishops in for example muslim lands. And how the gameplay could be different, cause I saw an earlier map where there was an archdiocese of africa.
>>2495671IIRC they said the diocese becomes inactive
>>2495671gameplay will be different in that nobody is paying you any tax i would imagine
i guess the gameplay is to make a nude female witch the pope now, painting the map is not interesting in ck3
I've not posted in awhile but work on north america is going along well, as well as a roughly 35-40 different native cultures not counting mesoamerica. Most with placeholder names like this based on their geographical location or archaeological culture.And yes I'm well aware the borders look like shit and are straight but I can't be arsed to fix it at the moment.I also added tobacco as a trade resource so now america have 2 unique resources being cacao and tobacco, as well as some rarer like jade and ivory from walruses.I also improved moneylending in this update with only allowing non-christians doing loans in christian nations, and giving rulers a decision to allow for christian usury in the nation if the game date reached into the 12th century. As such rules got less restricted over time in history. Although christian money lenders still get a piety penalty.
>>2495688the issue with america is that you are not supposed to be able to travel there before the age of discovery. Maybe you could put a debuff that kills any fleet that tries or just block the region like in west africa
>>2495689I did put in a block that essentially cuts off the the new continent unless you've discovered carracks in the Renaissance era. Unless you are in control of a part of greenland. So Greenland is essentially a "backdoor" to early access.
>>2495692>>2495689I should add, in theory american cultures can also reach the Renaissance and thus be the ones to take contact with the old world, but that would be very unlikely to happen.
>>2495695Sunset invasion?
>>2495689>the issue with america is that you are not supposed to be able to travel there before the age of discoveryEuropeans traveled to America in the last ice age by sailing along the edge of the ice cap, before Asians walked across the Bering land bridge
>>2495699There's no event chain for something like a sunset invasion, but it is possible for a american ruler that has reached the Renaissance era, or via the greenland route to enter/take land in Europe. But I imagine that would mainly happen if someone gained the conquer trait.
>>2495689The seas should block off the main ocean but there should be a passage from iceland -> greenland -> America like how the vikings did
>>2495688VGH, an early Tawantinsuyu
>>2495701is this the new anti china lore
>>2495688How does this interact with the max living character limit? CK3 can handle about up to 45 thousand living characters.Also, you might want to hold of on any more economy improvements. They're doing a complete economy overhaul complete with S&S in a month or two.
insane how ck2 has been completely surpassed, now even the ck2 bros that whine about the lack of the college of cardinals can't say anything anymore, it's now much better in ck3
>>2495735CK2 fans like stuff like Glitterhoof, Satanism, etc.
>>2495688This seems like a waste of time when there is literally ZERO information to go by that isnt hundreds of years out of date.
>>2495735>after SIX YEARS ck3 is finally getting features that were in ck2 from 2013how warped does your mind have to be to think this is an own
>>2495735>insane how ck2 has been completely surpassedplayers financed paradox for a decade before their new game became as complete as the old gameck3 could have just been a patch
>>2495744the features ck3 is getting are far far superior to the ones in ck2, ck2 is an obsolete game now, november will be the nail in the coffin, the total destruction of ck2, that will be abandon and forgottenand dont act like ck2 didn't take years to reach its peak
>>2495735but does ck3 have a button to expel the jews, huh?
>>2495748>the features ck3 is getting are far far superior to the ones in ck2its literally the exact same thing but with a much MUCH worse ui, both from an aesthetic level and from a functionality levelCK2>all cardinals visible without having to scroll>all cardinals succession vote visibleCK3>have to scroll through different cardinals>have to hover each of them one by one to see voteThis is a step backwards in every possible way. The fact it's taken them 6 years to come up with this crap is ridiculous.
>>2495758>its literally the exact same thing but with a much MUCH worse ui, both from an aesthetic level and from a functionality levelthe cope begins>all cardinals visible without having to scrollyes because ck2's trash college of cardinal is hardcoded and can have only the same amount of cardinals while in ck3 it can actually change depending on how many cardinals exist in the gamebut i guess le compact ui is better than actually functionality to ck2children>all cardinals succession vote visibleyes because in ck3 you can do more than just vote for a candidate like bribe them, use a hook and whatnot, again, more stuff to do > compact ui
>>2495758why can't you just admit that you lost
>>2495766Not about "compact UI", you could achieve the same with any number of cardinals. It is day 1 of graphic design that if you need to be able to interact with numerous assets simultaneously you do NOT put them in a drop down menu where you can't interact with them all at once. The CK3 version there says "11 of 11 characters", you could easily fit on 11 in the CK2 UI. Depending on how small you're willing to make them you could comfortably and readably fit much more than that. There is no excuse to have that interface not show all cardinals AND their votes without having to hover them one by one.>>2495771Why don't you admit that you don't know the first thing about how a grand strategy game should look and are just parroting whatever your favorite content creator says because you lack all ability to form independent thought?
>>2495775>you could achieve the same with any number of cardinalsno you can't>The CK3 version there says "11 of 11 characters"the maximum number changes, follow the dev diaries
>>2495775ck3 is just superiorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DOC9aieSngnone of this shit is in ck2 you clown
>>2495758this is the updated CoC ui btw
>>2495779>they added the anti pope toock2 in shambles, that's the only thing left that wasn't in ck3
>>2495778Yes, it would be piss easy to dynamically add slots to the UI for a competent dev.Off the top of my head the EU4 HRE panel springs to mind, where as you got more members the UI would expand to accommodate them.Interestingly they ALSO changed this to be a drop down menu for no apparent reason. They had it before where you could see all the princes, then decided you should have to scroll through to see them. I've no idea what fucking drop down menu shilling retard they hired but he's ruining the UI in all their games.>>2495780Still doesn't show who's electing them without having to hover. Worse UI. Information shouldn't be buried in tooltips.>>2495781Been in CK2 from launch btw. Glad your meme game finally caught up.
>>2495781actually there is one more thingthe ability to create a crusader state that is separate from the crusade goal (antioch, tripoli, edessa)but thats about it
Ships
ck2's playerbase also wasn't exclusively catladies wanting werewolf romance fiction
>>2495782Post PC specs.
>>2495799The fuck has PC specs got to do with UI readability? I actually have a fucking beast because I got it to play EU5 big let down that turned out to be, no amount of CPU will make having to hover tooltips instead of just being able to read all relevant information at once a good thing.
>>2495805Ok, cool. Post PC specs, though.
>>2495782the redesign looks better, i think this is all just a (you) problem
>>2495806Soon as you tell me what relevance that has to UI design, champ.>>2495807Why do you prefer hiding information? A game isn't more "complicated" or "in-depth" because it obfuscates things, it's just poor design.
>>2495811when the game become more complex and you have more information than before you need to compartmentalize it into different menus and sub menus
>>2495812They don't have the PC to launch those games, so they wouldn't know the necessity of nesting tooltips.I will always ask anyone complaining about "bloat" to post their PC specs.
>>2495812Cardinals voting for successor is the same amount of information in both games. This is a direct 1:1 correlation where the CK3 UI is worse for no reason other than that sycophantic whales like you will eat up any slop they put down for you.You would have a point if CK3 had any mechanics that needed nesting tooltips, like EU5 or Victoria 3. As it stands they use them just to display the same amount of information but poorly.
>>2495813I haven't once complained of bloat. You lack reading comprehension. I've complained they've taken a very simple mechanic and obfuscated it behind poor UI, when the predecessor clearly shows it can be done better, with design well over a decade old.Explain in your mind why having to scroll through cardinals and hover over them to see their vote is better than a single page with all the cardinals on showing all their votes simultaneously.
>>2495817Did... you actually pay attention to the screenshot? >>2495780The supporters of each get their own tab. Click the tab.
>>2495820Did you not read a single word of any of my posts? ALL votes for ALL cardinals should be available on one screen simultaneously.That way you could bribe people without having to sift through submenus.Say I want Hermann to win, I would have to go through Arsenios's tab to bribe people, then Sebastiano's tab to bribe people. That should all be on one page.Granted, the redesign is better than how they initially looked (>>2495758), but there's still no reason to separate them by candidate instead of having them all visible at once.And this still has the drop down menu problem. Just make the icons smaller and you could fit them all on.
>>2495826>left-clicking on a submenu, then right clicking on all the portraits to interact with them is bad or hardUh-huh. Post PC specs.
>>2495828Already told you, soon as you tell me what that has to do with UI.You're either a retard who doesn't understand an excel spreadsheet doesn't need good specs OR you do know this and are just pretending to be retarded.
>>2495833That's a whole lot of yapping and not a lot of spec posting.Post your hours played in CK3.
>>2495826you would still need to access the bribe submenu and the bribe amount submenu, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining
>>2495835You can set the amount now?
>>2495834UI looks the same on a NASA super computer and a nintendo DS. Once again, you either don't understand this or are pretending to be retarded.>>2495835No, I'm complaining because people are claiming this somehow beats CK2 when:1. It's 6 years too late, this shit should have been in on release.2. The UI is objectively worse because they insist on going for this minimalist submenu obsessed approach.
>doesn't own CK3>pirated it, but his potato can't run itI'm yet to see a single reason not to treat this like the fox and the grapes.
I just got burned out on my first playthrough. My complaints were probably brought up already a hundred times, am I just playing it wrong and should never play late game?>Everything up to making an empire is fun, but only once>Everything past making an empire is dogshit>The AI is never, ever capable of threatening you outside of events like Mongols>Army controls are beyond dogshit, not being able to rally specific men at arms at specific locations is a joke>Men at arms being able to teleport around the map is silly>Man at arms death stack is way too OP>No war with raised armies plus zero army raise control mean that the only viable map painting tactics is waging war one region at a time, which is torture. Yes you can borrow province armies, but why would you when they take 20 times longer to siege than your doomstack>Can't empower your vassals to do your conquests for you>Not enough UI tools that would scale to managing a hundred vassals>Not map painting is just putting on fast forward and doing nothing, since nothing can touch your empire>Courtier eugenics are 99% clicking through menus and not fun>Converting religion/culture is just waiting for vassals to do their job and clicking through dozens of vassals to get all the right appointments and conversions>UI gets real awful real fast. What do you mean I can't sort alphabetically, why is my vassal list only filterable in the tiny list on character view, why can't I filter by possible interactions, why can't I mass-negotiate conversions/hooks, why does the stupid reminder menu reset its scroll whenever I interact with it, why can't I see a list of all landowners inside a title, why are there no genealogy trees, why don't genetic trait filters of the same kind work like an OR
>>2495840NTAI bought CK3 and played it for a month and just didn’t care for it. Nu-Paradox has lost the divine mandate. They’ve made one good game in the last ten years, and dropped it within a year or two of release.
>>2495842..?Imperator?
>>2495843Yup.
>>2495855Oh, well if you consider that bloated pile of shit good, then your opinion is irrelevant.
>>2495860>imperator>bloated>the most barebones grand strategy game that received no tangible DLClmao, paradox are literally running bots here to shill for CK3 at this point
>>2495860>Oh, well if you consider that bloated pile of shit good, then your opinion is irrelevant.The odds are >50% that I was playing Paradox games before you were born, kiddo.
>>2495879Not him, but do you actually play Imperator? I bounced off of it for the following reasons:>boring starting dateThere are half a dozen relevant countries, the rest are either completely barebones or literally made up tribes.>"pops" that don't correspond to populationsI fucking hate the "pop" tokens, it would have been so much easier and better if they'd just used actual population figures. Very immersion breaking when I don't know how many people 1 "freemen" pop represents.>dead AIGranted this is a problem with most grand strategy games, but none of the countries on the map feel like actual states, they either do nothing (99% of countries) or blob retardedly and ahistorically (rome)EU5 mogs it for many of these reasons, but EU5 still has the problem of the world feeling dead due to lack of AI incentive to do anything, let alone follow historical routes of expansion.
>>2495841Not really. The main apeal is the character driven interactions and dynamics. As soon as you get to a level where individual characters are irrelevant, you're left with a token strategy game.If you enable Automated Armies, you too can have the joy of having your army be brain-dead.As soon as you get more than 10-20 direct vassals, managing them is going to be tedious. Either use a mod, example:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3766246044. Or start giving your vassals higher titles and their own vassals.AGOT and other total conversion mods are the main reason people play. Though they become alot less interesting once all the starting characters are dead. PoD is nice for this reason, all of the starting vampires aren't going to be dead 200 years in and replaced with Bumblefuck McGees.
>>2495841>why are there no genealogy treesclock on the house banners or some shit, they are there. They get laggy with big families though
I think children and regents-of-children in CK3 should be hard-barred from revoking titleslittle bastards start tyranny wars like no other
>>2495881>Not him, but do you actually play Imperator? I’m not currently playing it, but I played my fill of it and come back to it for another run once in a while.>boring starting date>There are half a dozen relevant countries, the rest are either completely barebones or literally made up tribes.I partly agree with you. It might have been nice to have a start date at the beginning of Alexander’s conquests of Greece. That said, it’s essentially a game about Rome. It is what it is, they’re the main character, and the game works better if they’re in player hands and not AI hands. The made up barbarians suck, I agree. Once you’ve played Rome, and a Greek minor, and a Hellenistic major, you’ve pretty much seen the game.>I fucking hate the "pop" tokens, it would have been so much easier and better if they'd just used actual population figures.They’re very loosely approx 1,000 population.>but none of the countries on the map feel like actual states, they either do nothing (99% of countries) or blob retardedly and ahistorically (rome)Fair complaint. I personally like to play on a modified very hard to get the “smarter” and more aggressive AI but without silly cheats and bonuses. But yeah, if you’re into roleplaying and producing something vaguely historical, heavy railroading is needed.>EU5 mogs it for these and other reasonsI bought EU5 but haven’t really gotten into it, waiting for the devs to sort out what their vision is, they seem to be flailing. IMO it was a mistake to go down the MEIOU autism path, EU is fundamentally a board game and certain abstractions are necessary to make a fun game. That said, my dream EU game would be a cross between EU2 mechanics w/ AGCEEP mod level railroading, early EU4 (first year or two after release, before the bloat creep) mixed with Imperator.
After playing several weeks with royal court I noticed how barebones it sometimes feels, and this was the first major DLC they spent years developing and they charge 30 bucks for a single room slideshow.If there was a wishlist of features I'd add more displayable items than what they brothered with. You can have a cabinet and a chest? Why not stuff the cups and jars there? You have three giant walls? Plenty of room for additional trophies/banners than just 3 of them.>"Just use mods."Most of the devs and modelers are originally modders themselves in 3.
>>2495916I hate the board game narrative. I get that for a lot of people, probably the vast majority, that's good because it makes for an enjoyable game, but it completely saps my soul and ruins the immersion entirely for me.For me grand strategy should always be about simulating, in the most accurate and mechanically in-depth way possible, history.EU5, for me, is 90% of the way there, but it lets itself down by maintaining links to board game mechanics. The devs are actually leaning into this hard now, by reintroducing mana into the game.I really don't want a blobber, but that seems to be what the devs are so used to creating that they can't do anything else.Example, I "blobbed" hard as Teutons but I didn't want to directly control the land, so I released some nice puppets while keeping my perfect Prussia borders. There I had everything set up great, when I noticed my crown power was low. I looked to see what the issue was. I was getting a severe malus from my subjects' economic base.You see, puppets in EU5 aren't meant to be used to make aesthetic borders, they're supposed to be used as a stopgap between annexing them and blobbing. Playing the way I do, nice borders, few puppets, that is directly discouraged by the mechanics. Despite all the talk about EU5 being the anti-blobbing game fundamentally the blobbing mana core still exists, the mask slips, and you're reminded the only goal in EU games is to map paint.For me Victoria 2 was, is, and always will be the gold standard. In that game there was no mana, no board game mechanics, you could have literally infinite puppets, other countries felt alive with their own narratives and goals, you really felt like you were playing a state and not just a color on a map. EU5 could have been that, but they had to add mana.God, make it 2016 again.
>>2495930Everyone agrees it's aged comically poorly compared to the expansions that came after
>>2495948I really hope they'll make an update for that, snowball's chance in hell and all that. Imagine that when your realm and court grandeur grows, your personal residence grows with. I'm not asking Versailles, but throne room getting expansion would be nice, especially if it were treated as a project.>Has whole bunch of books and tomes Build a library.>Old weapons and armorsArmory and trophy room. Optionally forge a furniture out of them.>Banners, flags and dead animals Trophy room.The throne room would be reserved for the most prestigious items, giving their full bonuses. The items in storage would give fraction of it.Also while there should be some sort of limit how much stuff you can have, it shouldn't be a hard limit.Pity that if PDX implements any of that it'd take another 3-5 years and cost 40.
>>2495949I want a room with a roaring fire to fuck your wife in.
>>2495949They'll never update it until they make it free for everyone.
>>2484887I used the slightly modified "Seastar's AGOT Collection - LoV" collection off workshop but make sure to add "Legacy of Valyria - 1.19 Update Patch" at the end as well.The LoV devs are faggots and the entire game wont work well.Personly I would suggest to not even play with LoV, I tested the modpack a few times and it comes off as very messy.the magic mod is really fun tho
Has anyone played Prince of Darkness? I went throught the entire "tutorial" and even googled the wiki and so on and I'm still confused how you're suppose to get experience for the Urge lifestyle. The wiki claims you have to explore the wyrm explorations but I did a few clearly labeled as wyrms and I dont see any nodes that imply giving exp and I recieve none. The whole exploration thing in general seems a bit messy and weird.Any tips for Sister Worm?
>>2491732Man ever since the original devs were replaced the mod has been pure trash. The fact we need a submod to undo all the retarded decision is wild but I guess it fits the TES modding scene
>>2494930Fuck you, you economic terrorist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irVd0hEpJT8Preview stream in 50 minutes. For some reason they decided on a multiplayer match.
>>2496040Stream has started.
>>2496019Paracuck...
CK3 coomers, how's the mod scene for that kind of gameplay atm? I was a taking stroll through sites like LL and whatnot and seeing everything from different types of bodies, traits and even...animations? Are things as advanced as they seem?In CK2 for example, you had to rely a lot more on your imagination due to lack of visual feedback (other than the stock event lewd image that recycled - that often had outside characters that didn't look like your own). But now you have full 3d models.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/preview-changelog-by-god-alone-1-20-0-crozier-free-update.1942961/> Papal Bull: Make your Puppet Pope sleep with your spouse.
>>2495993It was always trash. It focuses way to much on ESO and the modders forced their politics in even if they needed to change the lore to do it.
>>2496075>A literal cuck achievementBravo Paradox.
Okay ... get this - POPE HAESTEINN
>>2496075>>2496173>it's not a meme>the devs are now putting obscure cuckold fetish references into the gameThis wickedness must be stamped out.
>>2496075>>2496173>>2496199I don't get it? What have papal bulls got to do with being a cuck?
>>2496200A bull is the guy who fucks the significant other of the cuckold. The bull in this case being the pope.It's a bad joke and an even worse achievement.
>>2496199Cuck fetishes have been weirdly mainstream since like 2015. Plus Paradox is Swedish.
>>2496205That'll either be the hardest most RNG dependant achievement in the world to get OR they added specific events/mechanics to get characters to cuck you.
>>2496212Secular rulers can puppet clerical rulers and vice versa. Requires a hook, high devotion, them being part of your dynasty or some other unnamed options.With that in mind, you would need to puppet your court chaplain, get him elected as pope, then order him to seduce your wife.
>>2496213>order him to seduce your wife.This does not exist, nor should it.
>>2496215Does the Pope use their full name if they are from a culture that shows their second name first (i.e. Han, Hungarian)
>Added 836 faith icons. Every religion now has a full set of Faith and Rite icon variants with color options.
>>2496214Unfortunately it will exist.The puppet system allows you to use all character interactions as if you were the puppet. You can't puppet players though.
>>2496219https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryvkwx8BFss
>Personal Tenets and Spiritual Fulfillment shit is part of Free patchoh thank fuck maybe PoD can use it as a baby step into Mages one day
>>2496221Source?
>>2496226https://www.youtube.com/live/oGhXh1NceQ4?t=1783sScreencap is from about 15 seconds after the linked timestamp.Players not being able to be puppets was mentioned in the preview stream from earlier today. Reason being that taking away agency from players wouldn't be fun.
>>2496230Seems seduce is blocked, you might need a specific "gooner" life perk to do it.
>>2496232Or the fact that neither party is gay.
>>2496233Imma be real with you, I haven't played this game in years, I'm back in the general because apparently it's getting good now.
>Rewrote all administrative script to use explicit mechanics and flags, so mods can define non-vanilla admin governments such as an admin realm without noble families.wonder if that means there's any hope for appointing an academy-govt character in ek2 once they're done compatching for 6 months
>>2496239as an admin-ruler*
>>2496230So it's not a puppet in a political sense but more in a supernatural sense where you can force them to murder and have sex and study a new language
>>2496257Surprised no redditors have whined that it's basically rape.
>>2496199>in a thread about Crusader Kings>he complains about cuckoldryWhere do you think we are?
>>2496257>play a gay king>try to seduce your straight bishop>0% chance>make him a puppet and order him to seduce you>100% chance
>order mom to seduce mehope this isn't restricted just to rulers
>>2496075>Expanded greeting, insult and compliment custom localization with lines from Crusader Kings IITales of your infamy are told from Ireland to Cathay.
>>2496275Kino."Misdeeds" not "infamy".
>>2496284Tales of your badboy are told from Ireland to Cathay.
>>2496075Genuine question, is there something in the water in Sweden? Why are they like this?
>>2496355Read Kevin MacDonald’s trilogy specifically the concept of “altruistic punishment”. It’s essentially a civilizational autoimmune disorder, where the group evolutionary survival strategy was hijacked by an (((outside group))) and redirected in an urge to destroy one’s own group.
I tried to play as Phrangopoulos, first time playing an unlanded playthrough, got killed 10 minutes in and i closed the game. Fuck that shit.
skill issue
i know
>>2496271can you even order someone that
>>2496257>oh no is that fun>we dont do that here
>>2496260unlike forceful concubinage lol
>>2496075yt ppl got issues
>>2496075I don't feel like checking current achievement list to see if they've done anything similarly dirty, but that's highly inappropriate lolbulk of my gripe is that it would've been better if they made it an explicitly hidden achievement, wouldn't stay secret for long but I think it would've been a great laugh for the first pervert to stumble onto it.
SPQNTR - As the reformed Roman Emperor, have your wife fucked by the entire senate at once.
>>2496075>>2496355cuckolding is the new gay, historically ridiculed, trying to get accepted todaytolerant swedes are ofcourse in the lead
>>2496213can secular rulers puppet other secular rulers, or non rulers?
>>2496423The french didn't make paternity tests illegal just for the swedes to be considered "in the lead"
>>2496075personal mercs
>>2496426That's less a modern cuckoldry thing and more just a "French degenerates" thing, which is actually trad for them.
>>2496075its this fat slob's doing, jacob blakey
>>2496267Gay/straight seduction does nothing, except a sex event, you can't add lovers this way
>>2496040>Jacob what do you think of Loverslabs mods?>Oh I love them, I'm especially a fan of Interracial Takeover, really well made mod.>What about you Artur?
>>2496211>Cuck fetishes have been weirdly mainstream since like 2015Blame /pol/
>CK3 devs trying to contain themselves from making an achievement about making Haesteinn the Pope
>>2496460i will blame jews for normalization of pornography
>>2496460Never forget
>>2496110nobody talks enough about how the devs harass other submodders over the dumbest things
>>2496355I never met a swede neither on the internet or irl but judging by how retarded all these swedish devs here and on helldivers and some other indie games are actin up and how nonsensical a lot of theit decisions are and the way they "talk" it really makes me wonder if that whole area is just inbred. I'm diognized autist and even for me their behavior makes no sense so it cant be autism alone.
>>2496460That was moot's fault for getting cuckolded.
>>2496431>female adultery can be allowed ck3 more like cuck kings 3
>>2496426that law still fucks me up. And these fuckers are right next to me. What a pathetic country man>>2496429>Every french movie I was forced to watch had some pdf-adjantent scene or just straight up shit like that.>ALWAYS involves cucking or tranny content>ALWAYS has someone cheat>Every single person for some reason is a huge piece of shit to each other and extremly fakeIt's kind of funny that their own movies ruined my view on the french forever.
>>2496075I cannot believe this is real
>>2496075lotta seething over a joke derived from a pun
>>2496075
oh so when it's YOUR wife suddenly banging women you aren't married to is wrong instead of le funny...
>>2496555"The joke" is a reference to cuck porn? Where's the funny part? The decline of morality, is that something we're supposed to laugh about?
>>2496199>obscurethe chair is like the most well known thing about cuckolder
>>2496075I think it's funny
>>2496591the funny part is you clutching your pearls and pretending to be offended over a play on words
>>2496661The actually funny part is you being beaten to death with the baseball bats.
>>2496211Much like everything else online and a bit irl today, cucking and getting cucked is 4chan culture and originated/was popularized here
>>2496211>>2496677Even you referencing them as Swedish and thus more predisposed to loving getting cucked is a joke so indisputably from here it isn’t difficult to guess where it came from
>>2496674cry harder faggot
>>2496510he said he likes allowing it
wow people are really upset about the cuck shit
>>2496700That's a Turk malding over Discord Drama.
>>2496707I will never forget the Great Turk Malding of 2026
only 1 day until i can make the pope fuck my wife, oh boy, speedrun strats?
>>2496707>Eugenics propagators are also racistcolor me shocked
>>2496709it should be easier if you make a family member pope first
there is already a guaranteed way to get cucked in the game, by making some big house your rivalnow they just acknowledged their fetish officially
actually why are third worlders like this >>2496700 ?
lul
>>2496739
>>2496707>>2496700>double great alexanderI'm not up to date on my Turklore, do Turks like Alexander?
>>2496562>>2496075>the one with the chairWhere are people getting the images from this? The forum post doesn't have any for me.
>>2496759he doesnt even go to china...
If Paradox isn't trying to subvert conventional heterosexual sexualities then why did they make this image of a male have feminine beauty traits like soft white skin and long flowing blond hair? You are clearly supposed to find this attractive, despite the fact it's not a woman.
>>2496759lul
>>2496770same shit as crusades, retarded ai cant handle supplies even if having 3 times more troops and late medieval culture vs tribal
You just know he has a humiliation fetish as well and is getting off on everyone calling him a freak.
>>2496769>why did they make this image of a male have feminine beauty traits>With this chin
>>2496769uh oh an egg is cracking
>>2496769you're just gay, that's the classic prince charming
>>2496769reminder all people would look like this if hitler wonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eRhjEiB0VY
why do paradox games attract fascists is it because they can cope in them
>why are fascists intrested in a patriarchal eugenics simulator about btfoing brown people and purifying your blood lineand other mysteries we will never get to the bottom of
>>2496769I think you're just gay anon
>>2496813han empire is the actual first world in ck3 tho, europe is a barbaric shithole at the time and now
>han empire is the actual first world
uh oh muttoids claim to be europeans again
vst is the lowest of the low chud trash these days
>a-akshully china was superior to europe!>easily btfo>y-your american!wrong again
I'm looking forward to making dumb mystic psuedochristian bullshit complete with holy sites in Tibet
>>2496843>easily btfo>retarded jpg he found on pollets check statistics on religious wars inside of europe if you wanna talk about senseless deaths as a measure of anything not sure you even know what it was tho
I just play AGOT, which gets an update every three years
>>2496075BRO...........
>>2496890I don't see what you think this proves. Yes, China, India, Indonesia had lots of resources, so did the Congo. I guess the Congo is more advanced than China because they have more resources per square foot of territory?If anything the opposite is true, that Europe managed to make itself the foremost world power despite having significantly less natural resources proves their superiority.
>>2496763they are balkanoids and balkanoids will do their hardest to convince you anyone of worth in history was actually their ethnicity
>>2496917half of european resources went IN to china, retardlearn some history, you are very low IQ
western cucks dont know shit about their own history that doesn't fit in the great men theory
>>2496843>a-akshully china was superior to europe!They cope by saying every foreign conqueror that buttfucked whatever dynasty was in place and subjugated the locals became chinese therefore China was never ruled by foreigners and never truly fell like Rome.Insane cope.
>>2496963rome got buttfucked by foreigners many times
Which cuck chair do you recommend based on your experience, ck3 players?
>>2496984Something that can be wiped clean.
Dropping the nukes on Japan was a mistake
pretty coolmurder of Thomas Becket by the knights of Henry IIthey weren't executed for this but all their land was taken away and they essentially were expelled from england to go on a crusade where they died
>>2496460desu that was the word only. bbc shit and related only really exploded after 2018.
From what I saw the verdict is gonna be: Good, but buggy, broken and makes the game easy as fuck.
so new DLC is going to break everything and be unplayable at launch right?
what is the prognosis my fellow pirates? how long till the crack
>>2497015>makes the game easy as fuckIt wasn't already?
Is it releasing 2pm CET or 3pm CET?
>>2497041Every single DLC and game from Paradox gets cracked day 1, Paradox doesn't put DRM besides the easily cracked Steam one on their games at all.
>>2497042Even easier. From what I saw if the pope has high opinion of you you can ask him to give you any title (and the land associated with it) of any ruler you have claim on for like 1k piety and he will do so. Even if it's the primary title of your liege. This has no global cooldown, you can spam it. For example if you are Matilda you can basically ask the pope right away to make you the HRE empress. If the holder of the title refuses to give it to you he loses like 2k piety and 2 levels of devotion.You also no longer need the special learning skill to instantly create claim, you can ask the pope for it and they made that easier too, now he will gladly give you claim on kingdom and empire tier titles (previously he didn't).So you basically:1) Ask pope to give you claim2) Ask pope to give you the land you have claim on3) spam pilgrimages in betweenAnd get to blob like maniac without ever going to war.
i cant wait to play this dlc next month when all my mods are updated
>>2497052Why are you lying, faggot?
>>2497067you can just watch the tarkusarkusar pre-release stream to see that I am correct
>>2497052if it's that bad I imagine it'd get the nerfbat pretty fast
>>2497080
>>2497082yeahit'll die within days if someone like spiff shows it offit's more impactful and probably easier to reign in (making the potato less likely to grant such a thing, making the landed party significantly more likely to tell the potato to go fuck himself, etc.) than some silly shit like the build speed exploit anyway
>>2487280New Niggerkino droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1aoPCq1ZlE
>>2497052Lmao who thought of that idea. It was already bad enough you could request a claim for any title. Disabling that "feature" first day
fuck I forgot how steam gave time estimates again, thought it was gonna drop an hour soonerfuckfuck this I'm passing out
1.20 is go.
>>2497041Buy the base game and download the DLCs seperately
I'm guessing the update won't load the old saves at all?
>Cuck achievement>Event were bad foot smell gets stuck on you>New brooch slot is bugged and doesn't work>All within the first hour of playing the new updateOff to a great start.
>>2497123Turned out I had to wait for a long time. And apparently splitting holy orders into militaristic and monastic ones defaulted all previous orders into monastics.
>>2497123What do you think, anon?
Ive been living under a rock when it comes to CK3 stuff, is there anything special for adventurers in the god alone DLC?
where is the crack at
>>2497052>And get to blobThis is the worst thing you can do to yourself in this game lolYou people should be put in pig pens and farmed for a subsequent slaughter you are that dumb
How do you play this game without getting bored.
>>2497137No
>>2497181Put a zoomer slop video on the side
>>2497181It's surprisingly good podcast listening material.Also larp everything, set autistic goals etc.
i think ethiopian diocese should provide enough of a challenge
>you get not 1 but 3 puppets, who are essentially 3 extra characters for you to play at the same timeunfortunately they must be either secular or clerical rulers tho
someone already got it first, damn
~4 years timeout on changing personal tenant damn it
>reforming faith is now a mega project, you need to learn about every single new aspect first
>the limit on the number of your personal schemes extends to the puppet
>>2497181Conquer one kingdom at the time, rename it and take a break. Also podcast or music on the side.
>>2497207okay then puppets are not as coolextremely limited, they cant even seduce anyone if they arent lustful or a pope
>>2497206So I need to start as an adventurer if I want to reform pagan Faith with good tenets? Also while I welcome the cuztom holy sites, I need to find or make 2 holy items per site, taking 5 years per piece.
>>2497211maybewhat id like to know is if what you learn gets inherited or forgotten after your death
is the update worth playing if i dont buy dlc
is breathing worth it if i dont have a nose
>>2497215I don't use my nose
>>2497213I think the basics of the religion system are there, the things the DLC adds are mostly Christianity specific, so especially if you want to play outside Europe and make up schizo faiths, go for it.
His silence is deafening.
>>2497199>my archbishop is in alexandriaso cool
>>2497233Technically your patriarch is in Alexandria, Ethiopia has it's own bishop.
they did add a dumping place for all the artifacts you accumulate while playing in the form of religious sites that get stronger with rarer artifacts
>roman rite has 8 holy sites by default now
>>2497249That's Chalacadonian, Catholicism still has the same 5.
>>2497249various forms of buddhism toosurprised they didnt make the same for asatru which would be typical for paradox
A neat thing that could/should be done is making the tenets particular god cults for paganism. So for instance, something like Sacred Hunt could be worshipping Diana/Artemis.
Whoever came up with the Dissolution Fanction should be publicly hanged.
i think polytheism is barely tackled at all in ck3
>>2497269SCOTLAND IS ABOLISHED
>>2497266That would require working on a feature they're not currently selling as DLC.Need I remind you they didn't start work on the Christianity overhaul until the preorders.
>>2497269wow just like irl
>>2497206You can always reform first, then make a new religion out of it later.
so i should collect a bunch of bitches and educate their runts in to the next playable character, that would maximize the gameplay time for a character as most normal candidates are >40 years old. I think this is what they did historically too.
>>2497276With the new system it could be modded in, I think.
>you learn about doctrines automatically just by traveling
>>2497289this makes me fear that you forget them after changing the character
>>2497293Well yeah.
I know it's a focus on Catholics/Orthodox for the most part but damn erryone else knows diddly shit for tenets as a baseline
tenets seem kinda scuffedive learned about pursuit of knowledge from the jews but to adopt it i need to be a buddhist or something
This is the first time anything nice ever happens to me on a coronation
you basement dwellers know that there is the whole world out there beyond england right
chink boi mad no one wants to play qiu zhu of cu
island chud is terrified of other people, typical
Well, how's the update? I'm stuck updating my mods
>>2497307Ranjeet, I will not play in your subcontinent.
>>2497312Check your capital irl lololo
>chuds need videogames to cope with being replaced kekaroo
/vst/ is bullying me so I'm going on a gigacrusade and kill 10000lahk kebabs, praise kek!
>>2497314no indian in beograd kek
>>2497293You can't write them down?
I am not sure she is supposed to get spiritual fulfillment from that
>>2497320and why arent you playing serbia then, turkish self hate?
>>2497327A Macedonian made this map they're the only people to think they're different from Bulgarians.
>>2497307there is literally no reason to play outside of Europe if you want to explore the new DLC, it's entirely christianity-focused, the other stuff like reworked islam are just nice touches
for fucks sake i forgot to enable adoption, you cant play as theocracy without it
>>2497334>changing the save file disables achievements>i cant get my cuck chair without itits over
>>2497334Wait really? Only Ecclesiastical lets you play as the successor?
>>2497337well im exaggerating, what i actually meant you cant cheese the game how you want, there are still default elections and so on
How much can non-Christian heads of faiths change their faith without starting a new rite?
It begins
>>2497311I'm doing test runs with both fresh new save and an older one three patches ago.Old one occasionally flickers with black and characters tend to turn invisible but that's most likely because of the old save checksum.
>play a few different playthroughs>in all of them bullshit like warmongering and gnosis becoming core tenets of catholicism happenedthe game is ruined historically-wise, it's over
okay, so i began as a custom made adventurer because starting as a premade character or a landowner is a buzzkill for me.When do i get to experience the new DLC, other than having to pick my personal tenets early on.
PoD made their git public access looks likeso no more having to be a patron to get the latest nitty gritty updates unless I'm retarded
>>2497371>gnosisi kek'd so hard when i saw the in-game description of gnosis, its almost as if an /x/ shizo wrote it
was this the patch that was supposed to make adventuring a base mechanic?
>>2497387No that's Silk and Silver.
>>2497386wdym? That's just the basic definition of gnosticism.
>>2497386But this is literally what gnosticism is.
>>2497364>>2497371>simulation of the Middle Ages
>>2497419This is a paradox game. They've decided HOI4 should be the appeal of all their titles.
>play in Japan>work my way up to Regent>adopt Soryo government >okay so now I can become Shogun right?>lol no you need to raise your crown authority again also there's a thirty year cooldown after adopting Soryo>finally get the crown authority I need after my character dies>okay now can I form the shogunate?>lol no now you need to be exalted among men btw when you form the shogunate crown authority resets again :^)How does anyone find this fun?
>improve my clerical domicile>build things that bring money>income doesnt change at all>everything goes further up the church ladder>mfw
>>2497423I just chill in the corner and try to propagate red hair desu
>>2497423you are supposed to play in britain only fucking shitskin pajeet
theocracy is really a gerontocracy
>>2497431just like real life
so far puppets seem to be only good for wars and syphoning gold, anything else?
>>2497386where do you think /x/ gets it?
>divine marriage now gives increased trait oddswow it might be worth taking now
hmm but what if i make a noble the next bishop in a theocracy
>>2496427Venture forth, my sellsword sons
i think celibacy is bugged, i can still marry characters with it
>>2496075Can't believe i almost bought the chapter 5 bundle.
>>2497480also something is broken with guardianship when i reach an old age
We're going to be painting Rome pink
ok tranny
brokefag here, does the free update add anything interesting or should I just stay on 1.19 until the mods I use get updated?
Woke right
>>2497567It adds rites, holy site customization, and splits holy orders into monastics and knighthoods.Also if you try to load and old pre-patch save the graphics will shit themselves and you'll need to delete everything, reinstall the game, verify, update the graphics catd, (dis) able the vsync and restart from clean slate.
So is it good?
>>2497577Don't know, haven't really tasted it yet. I guess I should have played as a bishop instead of a feudal ruler.
Are crusades good now? That was the one thing they needed to fix (since ck2) but from all the patch notes it looks like they didn't touch them at all.
>>2497579they still lose to supplies every time
>If you are declared a heresy and then seek reconciliation with the church, you're given the ecumenism doctrine, but you don't stop being your own faith and don't become a rite againBravo, Paradox. Thoroughly tested, 100% bug-free DLC.
>>2497563>Feminist Did they add any new tenets that are good for a female dominated religion? I've wanted to do an Amazon LARP game for awhile.
>>2497572>ESL grammarIt's probably a latinx
>>2497572>one guy asking if his religion is respected is "woke">thousands of turks review bombing is not
>>2497587There is one tenet, but it's buggy as fuck, as expected of Paradox.If you really want to do amazon larp, just play Medieval Matriarchs. Obviously not updated for the current DLC.
>>2497378When you settle somewhere.Adventurer gaming for this DLC (which is what I plan to do) is to mission to some obscure part of the world and set-up your own diocese.
>>2497371They should probably add a 'historical' church development modeOn the other hand, orthodoxy is a constant war. It's up to you, anon, to keep the world in line.
Game loads a hell of a lot faster, did they actually fix it?
>>2497621By "it" you mean...? Why should any one of us bother to respond to your vaguereries and nonsensical questions? Come back when you have gained some sense and manners.Adiue.
okay playing as outskirts diocese is pretty fucking slow, gameplay seem to be in reforming the faith and becoming landed, you can probably do it as an adventurer much fasteryour actions are very limited, you dont have an army and money for mercs for a long while, maybe in the middle of europe they are richer, idk.theocratic domicile buildings are the weakest of all other domiciles aswell, +2% learning exp stuff. You'd think that they are incentivizing reforming in to administrative government.
I didn't realise they were adding rites to Islam as well.
>>2497621Yes, here are the dev diaries on how exactly they did ithttps://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-diary-187-performance-optimization.1861437/https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/by-god-alone-dev-diary-6-performance.1940737/>>2497624Please hang yourself. Today, preferably. Someone like you does not deserve to live.
>hunt success chance can never be higher than 80Thanks loading screen, I didn't know that. Explains a lot.
>>2497637it doesnt matter, hides and horns are trash artifacts, you go on hunts for prestige and stress relief
HEY BILL! INVESTITURE WAR!
How do you act through a puppet? I have a clerical puppet but can't find any buttons to make them do things.
>>2497627Rites are the new general Religion mechanics. They are also for pagans, for example.
>>2497591that's slavx ESL
>>2496075I remember when the game came out and every spouse constantly had affairs and the devs were like "err but cheating is normal :)" but were forced to lower it
>>2497642right click a different character and a button on the left side appears
>>2497626>you can probably do it as an adventurer much fasterYeah adventurer -> seize land -> become theocratic is easier.If you also create a new rite and one divergent enough to be a new faith it becomes MUCH easier. You can then use constant holy wars to blob and are allowed to hold even up to empire titles. If you allow clerical marriage then it’s trivial to build a clerical dynasty too.Since theocratic inherit all titles it’s.. yeah.
>Papal Bull>Make your Puppet Pope sleep with your spouse
>>2494402>a gazillion modsIs it pick or choose or do they work together>>2494416I'm not against such events existing, but my main issue with the game is how easy it is
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/update-1-20-0-3.1943392/
they fucked up non-Christian theocracies by making it so that they can never do a pilgrimage because the check checks for treasury which only Christian ecclesiastical governments have
>>2497808>>2497807It’s fixed
>>2497808they fixed that
never cater your business to chuds
>>2497904leftist cucks you probably meant >>2496075
>>2497941cuckolding is a right wing fetish otherwise how do you explain israel
What can you possibly do as an Antiochian patriarch? I thought I would at least be able to convert the locals, or instigate religious revolts, but no. I'm just sitting here building my domicile and nothing else. Am I supposed to just wait until the catholics discover crusades and try to suck up to them?>INB4 this is realistic
>>2497974you can't do a mass conversion great project? Is that because Muslims are an organized religion? I'm converting the slavs to Catholicism from East Frankia
>>2497975Need to own land for that I believe
Always kinda funny when Alfred gets wiped out very fast.
I haven't bought the DLC yet but there's a permanent inspiration in my court that I can fund because it requires the DLC
Anyone figured out how to change a clerical region's faith? Doesn't seem to be affected by county distribution
>>2497974you can convert local christian rulers, sell claims, gain hooks in various ways>>2497976you dont, i think its your clerical region, dont know how you expand it as a patriarch
>>2497976altho its either bugged or i dont understand something because it gets instantly cancelled every time i use it
The way they designed landing for theocratic rulers ensures that no one will know how to do it.Except me that is, a high iq player.Its not good tho, very poorly implemented.
>>2498020Well?
i heckin love nomad revolts, super fast siege because every single nomad is a gengis khan at his pick when he was using chinese engineers, army 2-3 times stronger than your levies+maa of comparative size and you need to go looking for them to defeat multiple times since they just fuck off in terra incognita at the greater speed than you could possibly have
Decided to mod a fix for the oriental churches since Paradox caved to Armenian nationalists (of all people)
if i understand correctly all the bonuses from artifacts that you put in holy sites are completely wasted
>>2498038Also fixed the Nestorian description, since the old one was so terribly bad.
if i puppet the patriarch i can downgrade a foreign holy site that we wont be controlling in the near future anyway and upgrade my own local one instead, cool
wait, puppets CAN do their own schemes independent of your limit, UI is just lying. Awesome work paradox
It was at this moment i realize that while i like poking about religion i dont like it so much that i want to do a campaign completely based around it.
>>2497770That's 4 mods, long playlists look like this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3797546616.They do, in that order. LMF & Unop are currently incompatible with the latest version though. MIV is undergoing a series of rebalances and bugfixes. DA seems to be working fine.CK3 is currently broken anyways, you need to wait a week or two before the game is no longer bugged to hell from BGA.Unfortunately regressing versions is unadvisable given that you will have to exclude more and more mods as they continue to update.Steam has a feature called Version Control which would allow all of your mods to regress to the same version as the game, fixing this problem. Unfortunately, Paradox has not enabled it, meaning you can only use mods that were unmaintained on old versions and might as well be playing vanilla.
>>2498077desu people expecting mods to work days after a major expansion are expecting a bit muchYou play vanilla for a bit, laugh at all the bugs, then wait two weeks for them to fix the most egregious issues and for mods to update, then play the actual game again
theocratic gameplay coupled with the puppet system is you starting wars via other people and not caring about results, just as a ruse for you own invasion at the same time
????????
there are multiple UI bugs now that block different shit, try reloading
Another retard thinks henry 8 is the universal example of a medieval king, probably american
>>2498170can vouch as an adventurer I randomly couldn't set children to be educated anymore until I reloaded save
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIXKGBS49DILMAOOOOOOOOOOOO GAME IS FUCKEDFor all their insistences on keeping things "grounded" or whatever, not putting in certain kinds of things that were in the previous game because they wouldn't be "historically accurate", they sure as hell retarded when it comes to their research.
Given that he Turks brigaded and Paradox immediately folded. I wonder if we could do a similar brigade and get a custodian team.
>>2498285>LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO GAME IS FUCKEDpeople that talk like this are guaranteed retards that can't think for themselves.>>2498330They didn't really "fold", IRL pics of Ataturk are still banned and no one got fired. They just changed the rule so now IRL pics of politicians (post-1800) regardless of controversy are banned on the discord, but in-game pics are fine (as was previously allowed). Basically nothing changed.>As a result we will be restricting the usage of all political or military characters who were born after Jan 1, 1800. To still allow for a large pool of characters to choose from, you may still use any official Hearts of Iron IV in-game portraits, including those from after 1800, with the exception of prominent leaders of Nazi Germany.
>>2498334>Nooooo, you CAN NOT criticise a billion dollar company!How's the weather in Stockholm?
>>2498359You can criticize them all you want 'cause they're a shit company, but if you talk like a retard I'm gonna call you a retard.
>>2498361it takes one to know one
>>2498330QRD? What were they upset about?
>>2498380it's dumb discord drama that roaches overreacted to>turkish discord user got hacked and became a spam bot>banned>user gets account back>asks mods to be unbanned>mod notices his IRL ataturk profile pic>mod tells him he can be unbanned but he needs to change his pic to either the in-game version or something else because it's against the discord rules to have IRL pics of controversial figures>total roach chimpout for calling Ataturk controversial>classic armenian genocide denial mixed in too
>any holy shrine from previous version save are now dormant >effect faith:faithname = {activate_holy_site=site name} does nothingI guess I'll just finish my world conquest as an atheist then.
Are the crusades supposed to start like 200 years too early now?
Ok I had an ideaGay conversion therapy modThe meltdown would be hilarious
>>2498423Vanilla is pretty gay as is. IRL gays make up ~1% of the population. In game, they make up 5% of the characters.You might note that 1% is a similar figure to the percentage of clergy, and you'd be right. Hence why at any given point the clergy was majority gay.I don't think this was modeled in BGA though. Which means, for the first time, the devs missed an opportunity to not only be gay, but historically accurate gay.
Modded in historical metropolitanates of the Church of the East
>>2498380accusations of armenian genocide as usual
>wake up>still no patchits overthe game is deadbring the hearse
>>2498177>thought maybe disabling better barbershop would stop it>does not stop itfuck I don't wanna reload saves this often lmaoI vaguely recall seeing some nerd year or so ago claim saving a lot could cause affect performance, tooshieeet
can pick trophy skulls, cannibalism and human sacrifice as christian but cant pick pursuit of knowledge or respect of elders because it would be too out there i guess
>>2498380See this>>2496708
>>2498515Gotta get those youtubers to promote you game with "I MADE CHRISTIANITY EMBRQCE CANNIBALISM!" videos
modern propagandist political reality is so weird majority of turkey isnt even turkish
>>2498515>trophy skullsossilegium>cannibalism eucharist>human sacrificeself explanatory these practices that you mentioned are all Christian in nature >pursuit of knowledgegnositic heresy >respect of eldersPharisaic traditionswhere these practices are fundamentally anti-Christian and evil
seems like theocracies are real manipulators, secular rulers dont have shit on themeasy hooks, tenets, control over children: monastic, divorcesi just wish their estate was even close to celestial in terms of bonuses
ive seen cheating on myself and me plotting against myself aswellschizophrenia
>>2498555Small indie company, pls understand
>>2498038>since Paradox caved to Armenian nationalists (of all people)Paradox is run by Armenian BVLLS how else do you explain the Atatürk situation
America mod anon here.I think I went overboard, my mod is now at roughly 15 GB in size. And to be honest, most flavour I will never see. I just wanted to have the option to do some cool viking expedition/side adventures.Autism strikes again.
seems like they removed development boost event after the plague or at least severely reduced its frequency, if that is true then here goes the last reason to have that dlc after they removed lifespan boost building you get for completing legends, removed in two years after selling it to people.
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Does changing theism type actually do anything?
>>2498657basedfind our how other mods reduce size and apply the same methodsis it your map art and models?
>>2498668You have to be on polytheism to be mandala, I think that's it
>>2498677A shame, changing Christianity to poly or changing Shintoism to mono are such major changes to the entire structure of their beliefs, you'd think it'd have some major impact outside of whether you can be a specific government type
>>2498683>changing Christianity to poly or changing Shintoism to mono are such major changes to the entire structure of their beliefsNot really. Catholicism and Orthodoxy are already polytheistic, they just don't admit it.
>>2498684holy trinity is once against being too hard to understand for brownoids
>>2498687Even if you ignore the trinity stuff, there's still the concept of >Mary, theotokos and queen of heaven. and then also all the saints and angels that they pray to.
>>2498689Non of those are gods or worshipped as gods.
>>2498692Yeah, right...
>>2498665Plagues are a base game mechanic>>2498687It's not surprising, they are spiritually dead
>>2498684>>2498689it's sad that people genuinely think like this, to be completely theologically retarded, like the devs
some kind of a new formable kingdom in anatolia last time i looked it was tengri
Are Ecclesiastical governments supposed to be this repetitive and boring?Granted, I played Apostolic instead of something that can compete for the papacy, but I can't imagine being much more interesting.
wasn't following dev diaries, can I create christian nun state or not?
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>>2498752you could always set gender of the clergy in doctrines
