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If you see a gibberish post, it was made by raiders, ignore it.

No, Vic 3 is not good yet. In fact it never will be. Neither will EU5.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This week in history:
29 Sep 1011 – Danes capture Canterbury after a siege, taking Ælfheah, archbishop of Canterbury, as a prisoner.
30 Sep 1139 – A magnitude 7.7 earthquake strikes the Caucasus mountains in the Seljuk Empire, causing mass destruction and killing up to 300,000 people.
1 Oct 331 BC – Alexander the Great defeats Darius III of Persia in the Battle of Gaugamela.
2 Oct 48 BC – Julius Caesar arrives in Ptolemaic Egypt in his pursuit of Pompey and learns of the latter's death.
3 Oct 382 – Roman Emperor Theodosius I concludes a peace treaty with the Goths and settles them in the Balkans. (gone wrong)
4 Oct 1582 – The Gregorian Calendar is introduced by Pope Gregory XIII.
5 Oct 610 – Heraclius arrives at Constantinople, kills Byzantine Emperor Phocas, and becomes emperor.

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Previous thread: >>2486484
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>this thread killed the last one
pottery
was about to inform about this new one too, this is what i was about to post
>the last couple of threads op is presumably ded so i took the initiative.
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What are some accessible gsg for a noob
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just pick one of the ones made from 2010 onwards that interests you dude
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ok
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>>2496391
ck2 or 3
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i have resolved myself to read Encyclopedia Of Ottoman Empire by Gabor Agoston and Bruce Masters after i'm finished with the current books in my backlog(any day now)
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11th for Malicums
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First proper wars in a while
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no wonder the greeks preferred turks to catholics
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those were the dutch
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liever_Turks_dan_Paaps
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Do we prefer EU5 now?
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>papal bull
funny
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>funny
when i was a boy... imperial walls and towers used to make me feel so safe
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what does that have to do with my post though???
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ulm wc
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they used outhouses back then, not water closets
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new ck3 dlc coming out tomorrow are you excited /gsg/uys?????
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someone forgot to take his mead again
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>This week in history:
finally, a good thread.
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why are you guys so in favor of "this week in history"?
is it really just trolling?
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at this rate we need to do this month in herstory
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>this day in history
low effort copy paste slop only relevant for 1/10th of the thread's average lifespan
>this week in history
carefully cherry picked eventful historical bits relevant for the subsequent week
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>this day in history
an in-depth review of the particular day the thread was created, resulting in new insights year upon year as the thread is unlikely to be made on the same date a year from now
>this week in history
the same surface-level sensational headlines every time
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>>2496611
For me, it’s “this year in history”
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that's the whole point of this day in history, it gives a fuller cross section with the less relevant events people might not have known about
that and the fact that it's a /gsg/ tradition since the creation of /vg/. was that 2013? i don't even remember
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either way, nobody ever reads them unless you're a massive unemployed nerd
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i read em and i'm employed
it's 7 lines of text
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ok guys but what we thinking about der new dlc for ck3 coming out tomorrow?
as for me, upon release i will swiftly begin an amazing mega campaign the likes of which have never been seen before spanning from ck3 to eu4 and perhapsobly even vic2
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it's cool they're finally adding features ck2 had 10 years ago
and let us be honest, you're not doing a megacampaign
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>Medieval trade, merchant republics, and independent merchant families
will the tiny orthodox greek count of opm napoli be able to access those? or just another venice wanking going on
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>no answer
that guy is a shitposter confirmed, if he wasn't he would have already replied to me about his supposed highly anticipated dlc
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why is spain so overpowered in every single gsg?
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spain was overpowered in real life
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then why did she lose to holland?
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I remembered to keep the second science ship from an anomaly, the one where its all souped up with psionic shields and a jump drive.


I then jumped it right into a marauder sector :sigh:
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I have a confession to make: I don't like nomadic gameplay.

I was quite hyped for it, I really enjoy adventurer mode in CK3 for example, but I just can't seem to get into nomads. Which is such a shame, but I feel like the gameplay is just clunky. I'm quite disappointed honestly, more disappointed than I was in Cosmic Storms. I never had super high expectations for the latter, but I was hyped for Nomads.
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marauder sector (caribbean)
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I enjoy playing nomads but I completely agree that it is clunky, for example the automation and the ships taking up so much space in the outliner but other things as well.
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I'm not terribly interested in playing as a theocracy, but I am very excited for proper reformation mechanics
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personally, i'm waiting for 3 months after s&s so all of the bugs can be ironed out and the new economy will be more balanced, to finally start my first AUH game
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>Spain is overpower--ACK
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Sad!
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>peace with Morocco
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why is grenada still alive in 1507??
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Was guaranteeing them for a minute to cuck the Iberians
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did you finally make it out of the disaster after 50 years? youre still bleeding stab with every screenshot
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multiple stab wounds
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Closed the game but yeah around the late 1480s early 1490s I got it done.
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the disaster is so regarded yeah?
if you do the missions blocking seperatist rebels you have a monthly chance of 1 in 11 to lose stab.
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^ why u talk like that bruh
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small pp :c
big pp :o
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>sus
amogus
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>>>/v/748687305
interesting to see other shitposters across the site adopt the same tactics as our own gibberishposter
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today i shall remind them
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how is such a small otter so strong????
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Reformation spawned in Lübeck; with the coasts mapped we can finally get some early glimpses of Europe
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bighemia
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>plausibly deniable
sounds retarded, isn't it supposed to be plausible deniability? adverb modifying the noun
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*adjective
i was still thinking about his original sentence when writing that
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who or what are you quoting
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>bohemia, poland, and lithuania neatly lining up their country text and capital provinces
b-beautiful...
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it is supposed to be plausible deniability, the diplomatic term
but "plausibly deniable" sounds fine to me. an adverb can absolutely modify and adjective
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like a big eastern european neapolitan ice cream
malibro can you czech if bohemia is allied to poland?
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i see what you did there you czechy little gremlin
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>sounds retarded, isn't it supposed to be plausible deniability?
esl can't handle the phrase not appearing the exact way he learned it?
CIA first used the phrase "plausibly disclaim" in 1948.
The earliest public attestation of both phrases "plausibly deniable" and "plausible deniability" are from the some source dated 18 January 1962.
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dadc
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>asks
>gets answer he doesn't like
>"dadc"
many such cases
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i didn't ask anything though
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you guys are all retarded. the issue here is that "plausibly deniable" is grammatically sound but is not a complete sentence
e.g. "people who pirate paradox games have a plausibly deniable entry to heaven"
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plausibly deniable shitposting
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>>2496382
>No, Vic 3 is not good yet. In fact it never will be.
Literally the only good Paradox game though?
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I'm making dinner right now so I can't really czech but from what I remember they aren't they only have some random HRE-shitters as allies. They aren't the Emperor either and Austria lost the emperorship; I can only assume the Imperial Crown is held by some literally-who given how France has been rampaging for the last 20 years
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classic
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>>2496634
They're one of the historic final bosses who collapsed for seemingly no reason and the only way to replicate their decline would be to ask someone who doesn't know how to play to take over the winning country.
Ironically there's no GSG that replicates their takeover of New Spain so they do require incredible unit buffs just to conquer half as much as Spain historically did.
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you do make good points and kaiserreich: totaler krieg is a good game but don't reply to me ever again
and honestly in eu4 i've seen all sorts of different nations take over mexico, including portugal which really doesn't have anything special going in terms of army strength
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he prolly meant that irl spain conquered mexico with only 500 men
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yes, i know
what i'm saying is that in the game you don't need super special military bonuses to conquer mejico
of course at the same time paradox games have a terrible flaw of making every single war a total war, so in-game spain will invade mexico with as many troops as their transport fleets allow
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>+10% infantry combat ability and +1 artillery fire
>nothing special
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In eu4 its usually whoever declares war on a mexican and actually ferries troops over first. Quality bonuses mean nothing conpared to tech difference and eu4 ai is too scared to engage even at 5-1 army ratio
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^ bro got this information straight out of his ahh
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nah bro trust. to clarify what i mean you could have 10k castilians sieging down an inland fort with no other provinces sieged and 44k natives grouped up from different armies. Logically ai should use defensive bonus and overwhelming numbers to try to win the battle allowing a stackwipe but instead theyll just sit and wait for the siege to end/to be peaced out for some reason
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allowing a shattered retreat to the coast/previously moved province and then a stackwipe*
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got half a mind to do a vic3 ottoman run
i remember doing it all the way back in release and just altf4ing after making a gross ottomaniums that blobbed like a retard and btfowned russia by 1880
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i'm surprised you got something done in memegame3 back in the release
everyone else seemed to be chimping out
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is grok really an ai if it cant play mapgames
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grok form grossgermaniums for me
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>>2496908
It's harder now, but I don't really see why anyone uses difficulty as an argument in assessing paradox games, since none of them are hard anyway.
>>2496961
You forgot to add "make no mistakes"!
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is a paradox game hard if you can't figure out how to play it?
because i've had a tough time with three of them already
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but i guess i'm just retarded
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>>2496957
No map game has ever had good AI
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>>2496995
>>2496996
There is an initial knowledge barrier to all of these games, but once you surmount that you can pretty much ensure optimal play.
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I'm looking forward to founding a republic- I hope they put some gameplay in for being a merchant at a fairly low level. It could be a good route from adventurer to landed gameplay.
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adding another 4 hours to my run from needlessly auditing my tax collectors
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then having gay sex with their moms
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>I'm looking forward to founding a republic- I hope they put some gameplay in for being a merchant at a fairly low level. It could be a good route from adventurer to landed gameplay.
If they don't I'll create a mod like my adventure mod that will let you just turn into a wandering merchant whenever you want.
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>>2497028
>I'm looking forward to founding a republic- I hope they put some gameplay in for being a merchant at a fairly low level. It could be a good route from adventurer to landed gameplay.
Yes, it seems like it's very easy to go from merchant to patrician and vice versa:
>Importantly, since they share the same Domicile type, they can transition seamlessly from one government to the other, without losing any progress or converting their Domicile into something else. We very much wanted to ensure that a Merchant has the option to fluidly and naturally join a Republic without suffering adverse effects for doing so. And, indeed, the opposite path is also valid: if you should grow tired of your Republic, you can choose to leave it and embark on the path of a Merchant instead, and your hard-won assets and upgrades will go with you.
Keeping your domicile whether you're a merchant or patrician is great. There are all kinds of cool things you can do. If your republic is about to be conquered by the Mongols or something, you can just pack up and go wandering, building up your domicile, and then settle in another republic with all your domicile upgrades intact, making it easier to climb the ladder to become a powerful patrician.
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This is going to be completely sick as hell
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I've been so excited for playable merchants and republics in CK3 for literally years. We'll just have to get through that theocracy stuff first.
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I'm not terribly interested in playing as a theocracy, but I am very excited for proper reformation mechanics
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yeah, theocracy is whatever, but reformations, rites, schism, monastic orders, spiritual fullfillment, dynamic holy sites, college of cardinals and puppets, those are all welcome changes and I might finally be interested to play as... you know, crusader king. and I assume other faiths will be also affected to some extent and will become more interesting to interact with
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I'd also like to see a theocratic republic as an option, like Calvin's Geneva and it's imitators in the Netherlands, Scotland, English Puritanism, and New England. Or maybe a long lasting Savonarola-inspired movment ruling in an Italian city state for a while. Venice was very concerned about resisting clerical control, so it's unlikely to be relevant there.
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Agreed, Christian Europe will hopefully be a lot more interesting to play in as feudal, I don't really have much interest in playing as a theocracy. I'll probably buzz through it a few times for the inevitable cheevos.

And while I wasn't really that fussed either way about Republics the playstyle seems like how I play feudal most of the time anyway so maybe I will enjoy it more than I thought.
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I was going to start my first landless adventurer run in a total conversion mod for CK3, before i start it up is going Scholar any fun? If so, any general tips and tricks? I was thinking of starting as a scholar for an unreformed faith with the long term goal of eventually reforming it, so that'll probably also meaning gathering an army at some point.
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>>2497049
>I was going to start my first landless adventurer run in a total conversion mod for CK3, before i start it up is going Scholar any fun? If so, any general tips and tricks? I was thinking of starting as a scholar for an unreformed faith with the long term goal of eventually reforming it, so that'll probably also meaning gathering an army at some point.
scholar is one of the most slept on way to play landless

to reform the faith you’ll eventually have to get landed iirc because you need to control holy sites to unlock the option

its been a while but in p sure you can still convert so it might be best to reform the religion how you want it asap then go landless and that way you can convert tons of ppl

scholars get perks that make different religions and cultures hate you less which is kind of a huge deal imo. also your troops will counter enemies in battle better

you can dip into wayfarer and strategist to stack even more of those same bonuses its insanely op lol
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You get a decision called "The Travels of (yournamehere)" that if you visit enough points of interest will give you one of the strongest artifacts in the game - a journal that gets +40% lifestyle experience. I don't think it's unique to scholars but it's easy for them to pick up since you'll be traveling around so much to do contracts.

I never stay landless long but starting off like that is a huge boost for your dynasty.
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>I was going to start my first landless adventurer run in a total conversion mod for CK3, before i start it up is going Scholar any fun? If so, any general tips and tricks? I was thinking of starting as a scholar for an unreformed faith with the long term goal of eventually reforming it, so that'll probably also meaning gathering an army at some point.
I think all adventurers play similarly, scholar will take learning or stewardship contracts while others will take different contracts. Landless characters can't reform unreformed faiths, if you want to spread your new faith, you can modify already reformed faiths as an adventurer and then you can convert counties through camp priest, which is not locked behind camp purpose, but it synergies well with scholar purpose. This way you can quickly convert counties before you take them as an adventurer.
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There is a set of decisions around more aggressively proselytizing for adventurers in the base game, at least. The Ascension decision allows you to essentially start converting people at the point of a sword. It's very finicky to get to click on, of course, and to actually convert counties you need to have pretty beefy stats for the skill checks in the events.
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yeah that is the fastest way to repaint the map

otherwise the opinion modifiers matter because they will not even come close considering it if they view you as evil. not only will they hate you by default because of your religion but being an eccentric sexual deviant and whatever else you find virtuous will clash on top of that

i’ve found messing around with cultures and religions pretty fun compared to just expanding a regular empire but iirc the proselytizing locals is mainly just to farm peity as you travel im pretty sure all those npcs technically register as dead as soon as youre out of the area

also that book that was mentioned earlier rules and you can pass it down through your family for hundreds of years along with the swan armor just please loving rename it something cool like Mithril Codpiece
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>Unabomber.2026.1080p.WEBRip.10Bit.DDP5.1.x265-NeoNoir
am i in for a kino, bros?
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>>2496382
French republic is a humiliation ritual loop
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>28% critic rating on RT
yeah, I'm thinking it's kino
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March of the Eagles
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>Unabomber
i wonder how burgers think about the poles after his little fiasco
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>>2496454
>>2496455
>>2496792
>>2496696
>>2496691
>>2496676
trash, play eu5, a superior game
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burgers don't think about poles when they think about ted
they just think "white guy"
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ted cruz is mexican
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>>2496452
wait i thought this was a joke mod or something but it's in the fucking base game
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its a joke achievement
tranny devs
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that's what cheevos should be treated as by devs
stupid jokes
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white people achievements be like
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(99% of modern world)
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The holocaust
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^^
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>submitting false or misclassified reports will result in a ban
@grok translate this to argentina italian
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groknards
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serbia is ruled by a croatian lesbian now
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is there any game where you can larp a caliphate
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eu4
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i'd like something a little more interesting than having the name of your country change to da khalifate after you click a button
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but you said you wanted to larp as a caliphate, not be a caliphate
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>announcing a report
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yeah it's against the rules but none of us are snitches so he's safe
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damn if only i wasnt born such a honourable knight
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hmofa
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it that one of those american houseowner cooperatives that does nothing but impose stupid rules on you?
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poor goyim...
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they voted republican
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>Big war
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more like nig war
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>BREAKING NEWS FROM THE FRONT
>Decisive victory off the coast of Berezil
>>Danish navy crippled
>>Landing averted
>Colonies seized in Africa and the New World
>Troops massing in Gibraltar to repel the French invaders
War with Chimu is just to trucelock the Portuguese from expansion btw
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>>2496382
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_borders_of_France
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>Malaga liberated
>Naval battle off the coast of Morocco
Holding our own against France
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apparently protestant missionaries are slowly killing oriental christianity in ethiopia and converting their pops
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>>2496676
Who says that? They're one of the more bulliable GPs usually

OP for me are the Ottomans, PLC and especially freaking Austria (Austria is pure cancer and the bane of my existance no matter who I play as)
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still can't believe they just let you take over all of europe by 1520 as the ottomans
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>>2497506
You can take the entire world as the Ottomans by that date. Eyalets are that silly
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The only nation scarier than EU IV Ottomans is Imperator: Rome Rome.
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>There is a set of decisions around more aggressively proselytizing for adventurers in the base game, at least. The Ascension decision allows you to essentially start converting people at the point of a sword. It's very finicky to get to click on, of course, and to actually convert counties you need to have pretty beefy stats for the skill checks in the events.
Yeah, I took the ascended decision but I don't see how to convert people other than converting individuals. It is also very frustrating that you can't convert anyone who is a soldier. The mod leaves a bit of a free for all in the region I'm play, so it's pretty likely any ruler will count as a soldier at any point.

So in one life time, I've gathered a pretty quick array of artifacts which is pretty cool. But I can't figure out how to effectively proselytise, I don't know if this is maybe a result of being an unreformed region surrounded by organised religions.
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Hate when a war I wasn't watching ends and I can't see the reason it ended the way it did. I have a China Grand Campaign targeting a kingdom in India, but for some reason the war ended without territory changing hand, and its only been about a year. Looking at who pledged the Mandatory contribution (which seems to always have to be your Grand Marshal), the house that did is no longer the person that holds the position, and looking at the history of The Commission title, he "disappeared without a trace" about a year into the war. This is probably why it ended, though that's really annoying, because I'm pretty sure now the Grand Campaign is guaranteed to be stuck until it reaches the deadline and times out, 24 years from now.
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hearing that reminded me but it really sucks that you can't get the full turkic conqueror experience in any game
even if you play nomads in ck2 or ck3 it's just you raping a single say indian kingdom and settling, switching to a shittier government, and then raping the rest but slower
it's not interesting at all
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stellaris will fix that
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mommy told me you go to hell if you say things that you don't really believe
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oh yeah i watch that
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it's officially over for vic3.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNAWYD5NFsc
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why would an economist ever play vic3
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tranime is for faggots
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youre a tranny faggot despite not watching anime dough
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alright i felt extraordinarily nice today so i watched that video you posted my opinion is that yeah he's right
i am surprised though that this old bastard who has apparently played even eu2 is somehow surprised that pdx only cares about making money from shitty games and is only starting to realize the full extent of this now when i realized it and got over it ages ago
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https://erdteilallegorien.univie.ac.at
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actually i'm probably the only normal (see: non-faggot) person in here
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try saying that again but without a cock in your mouth this time
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that would only make sense off the internet retard
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that's the gayest thing you could have said
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not as gay as that time i walked in on you choking on your dad's dick
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do americans choke on their dad's dick that much?
seems like a common occurance over there
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Gonna finish my playthrough from six months ago and then uninstall the game
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My goal this playthrough is to blob into Australia and make it the lebensraum of the House of Hawaii
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Meanwhile I finish settling the North Island
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I think Venice at this point was literally a single alpine village which makes these casualties all the more hilarious
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The Bulgarians really hate Serbia for some reason
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Also Sicily lost a war to secessionists in the Balkans
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With the coast of Australia charted, all that is left is to map out the interior in preparation for settlement.
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The Serbian War of Independence is not going well, it seems
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Also I was mistaken earlier, this is the moment Venice lost all of its territory
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vgh........ the last redovbt of the repvblic................
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Castille at this point is deeply involved in the New World, maybe to the detriment of its other possessions.
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My elderly count wants to marry some whore. I say let him go for it, it's not like it will affect anything at this point anyway.
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presented without comment
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Literacy seems pretty good for a feudal state that just over 200 years ago didn't even know how to write
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After five years I finally complete the settlement of all of North Island
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My country is the most just in the world. A shame nobody even knows it exists.
That map by the way are just the countries I've found, because Hawaii starts with only the Pacific fully mapped and has to steal maps of other countries by infiltrating their governments.
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Orthodox Serbia revolts against Sultante Serbia
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Egypt starts a war against the entire Arab world. Ok I guess
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the character models really do look like shit compared to ck3
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My goal is to unify Hawaii by marrying my heir to this 5 year old girl. Unfortunately it doesn't work out
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Serbia wins the War of Serbian Liberation against Serbia.
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Things keep getting worse and worse for them
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I marry off one of my daughters to the count of Tonga. They are so weak and so far away I get nothing out of it but prestige and a potential claim on the throne.
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The Balkans right now
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Man it sucks to be Serbia
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Australia gives up more and more of her secrets, the slut
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hahaha this is awesome, I sure do love having this happen every single time I don't marry off my heir immediately THANKS JOHAN
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the beta dropped and youre here playing in nowhereland
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I guess I must have missed the part where I started colonizing Australia.
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These Tonga guys are real jerks, I don't know why I ever married them.
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I don't know if there's even a Serbia left at this point
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Oh wait, nevermind
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Now that Serbia basically no longer exists, I need a new rival so I pick the biggest, meanest and most safely distant one.
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Our colony in Australia grows
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This is why I constantly have no prestige
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Asia in 1555
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A few years later England breaks out into civil war.
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They still find time to send explorers to Cuba
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hahahahahaha nogai
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Serbia asks me to join their independence movement. I figure ok, why not.
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It seems China is not very good at this "war" thing either
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Oh no
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The war is fierce and fought between dozens of states most who have no idea the others exists
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It doesn't take long for some of them to drop out
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The forces arrayed against Bulgaria are too many. They have no choice but to sue for peace.
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I didn't really gain anything from of that war, but it looks like the burghers did.
Also I start annexing another island.
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Is it fun to colonize as a literal who?
should eu5 even alow that
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it must
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>is it fun to colonize
no
if you cant make colonial nations youre stuck with wrong culture land that has no tax base because it has no market access and will never be worth investing in but you spend 10 duckerinos a month for years to paint
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Steam sale later. I am thinking about picking up some Victoria 3 and Crusader Kings 3 DLC.
What about you?
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pirate all the way
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>vic 3 dlc
be prepared to shell out for 1 dlc for 1 single campaign
game is a dead shell
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what happened to that cuck who kept saying vic3 was now a good game
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he lost the game
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I just lost the game
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hasbros... its over...
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>>2497738
the day it is not allowed is the day I stop playing euv forever
Also I have a new count
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For some reason I gained a casus belli on my own fiefdom
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fucking peasants
when will they learn??????
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not this day, evidently
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Poland lost a war to a one-province microstate!
Everyone point at them and laugh!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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For reference here is once again the "state" in question
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sweet, sweet chocolate
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For how he was described you would think he was more than locally known
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The persecution of the Maori people is ended. It is time that we accept their barbaric backwards culture.
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Guns, germs and steel are not everything.
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you didnt accept them though you just like them now
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He also doubled trade revenue, but you didn't think about that at all, huh??? Huh???????
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I accidentally married my stepmom
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Venice keeps getting bullied
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Egypt starts another war against the Muslim world
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At least no one will be able to hurt Venice anymore
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The next year Bulgaria starts a war to seize the throne of Byzantium ("Byzantium" in this case being about half of the Peloponnese)
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The French really can't stand Europe being at peace for more than three seconds, huh
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WHAT are they lacking????????????
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ok but who asked?
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bodied that campaign spammer
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kanaka maoli tapu peasants in hilo caught lacking
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fr?
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pl!
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woah... you destroyed that guy...
don't know how hawaiifag is going to recover from that...
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what's the point of the woman in the upper left corner if you're playing as the crown itself?
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so is 1.4 good?
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3.03 is better
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what about 3.04
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3.04 in addition to fixes and good changes has gay additions like... uhhhhh, i don't rembember, it's been 10 years
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is orph.link/random finally dead?
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nooooo
it's over
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they are now pretending to be greatly devastated over a literal memegame2 dead meme meme roll being unavailable
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that's a vic2 roll website doe
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that was a good run
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nigga running at 11pm
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sometimes a night run is what's for dinner
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>>2497701
ck3s look like shit too
and v3s as well
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till GmbH is basicly just a Ltd. version of a german business entity or LLC in the land of sÖydom
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*TIL
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All of the Paradox games are being review bombed. Might be time to look for some new grand strategy games.
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should I buy 100aud$ of vic3 dlcs? Or should I just buy a different strategy game?
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have you tried acquiring things for free
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too lazy to install utorrent on my new computer and csrin gave me a Trojan once
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>utorrent
retard
>trojan
never happened2me
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are you unaware that the review-bombing is the work of turks
it's not a recent release that is triggering the negative reviews, but butthurt backlash
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i prefer to call it divine punishment
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nothing divine about it
but
i do like to see paradox suffer after succeeding with their shitty dlc policy for this long
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Turks are based
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>>2497596
was
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Alright /gsg/ I need your counsel. I've started a game as Georgia for some cheevos and so far things are going decently well. I'm allied to Lithuania (Poland took the local noble) and have Bulgaria as a vassal through a nocb against OPM Byzantium. I think for the moment I'm in no danger of being declared on. Right now the Turks are attacking Albania, Castile (DoF), Venice and Florence. I could ally Albania and get called in to be able to join in on the fight and potentially snipe Trebizond, however the Ottomans are miltech 6 while Venice is tech 5 and the rest are tech 4. This seems like a massive quality difference to me (t5 btw) and I'm not sure that even with this overwhelming numbers we can pull this off (on top of this I'm unsure if Castile will even move troops over. The main benefit is that hopefully most of thier army will be on the other side of their empire and I wouldn't have to fight any of their allies. Alternatively, Hungary just fought Venice and released Achaea and Crete. I could bide my time, scale and try to find stronger allies to jump the Otters on my own terms, while using nocb against Achaea and/or Crete in the meantime. What do you think anons?
>picrel : war participation
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>army quality
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>diplo and political map of Balkans
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you could pull off joining that war if you had 100% prestige and a golden era and 100 power projection for +30% morale of armies, but as it stands it'd be very difficult
why don't you have those things? do you even have access to cossacks?
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I could eke out an extra 15% morale of armies from the advisor and the Clergy privilege and 5% disc from the Orthodox Icon. Tech 6 would still be like 4 years away thoughbeit. I have the Cossacks unlocked you can see in the sidebar btw
>Why don't you have those things
Bad rng, playing on very hard, me being shit at the game and blazed out of my mind. One of these things no doubt.
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youre playing on hard arent you. 54k ottomans?
tough call because thats a weak venice, they lose on sea and castille might be too retarded to help
i'd say shoot your shot, you dont have much of a run to lose anyway (i mean really you missed out on trebizond and circassia both, what did you even do)
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why are you playing on very hard if you're shit at the game? all that difficulty does is give the ai ridiculous bonuses
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Fair enough I think I'll wait a year or so for the fighting to be more intense in the west and I'll attempt to snipe something through a separate peace.
>What did you even do
Tbh I was way too focused on preventing the disaster and conserving mana. I only took the one steppe province from Circassia as I had planned to farm them for PP before they got gibbed by Gazikumukh. Regarding Trebizond Otters declared while I was in the middle of fighting Shirvan for a Show Strength and I was literally 6 months away from making them a vassal too so I declined the cta. I had to disinherit 2 shit heirs as well which explains why Prestige is so low.
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Was more tongue in cheek than anything else anon
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ah you got greedy for mana. im a blobber i never use that cb
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Alright bros I gave it a think and I have some semblance of a plan. I've taken the icon of Christ Pantocrater (-10 development & construction cost) and some loans to build some key buildings : a church in Kartli for some extra income, a church in Kakheti to for the devcost from the Clergy privilege, and a fort in our capital to benefit from the monument therein and to better defend it. I'm going to wait a year for these buildings to finish; afterwards I'll use a good chunk of our non-military mana to develop Kakheti to boost income and forcelimit. I've also fired my diplomatic advisor and hired Datua Diasamidze, an army reformer (10% morale). Now that I don't have to worry about the disaster I gave the privilege to the nobility for extra Military Power as well; we should be able to acquire the Arquebus in 2 years after the ahead of time penalty is gone. Once the buildings and development is completed I plan to raise a mercenary company/some extra men, beefing up our army up to 24k, and to change our icon to St. Michael for the discipline. With all this done I'll join the war. I've also enabled Scutage for our vassal Bulgaria so in the worst case where things are going very poorly I'll only need to defend Georgia proper until Albania peaces out to get out of the war unscathed.
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Here goes nothing
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Gazikumukh was called in as soon as we joined so we're heading there first
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Their army might be invincible but they can't be everywhere at once, Pope called for a crusade and the Catholics are keeping them busy so it should be smooth sailing just sieging and chill
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>Trebizond and Lakia have fallen
>Ottoman AI bugged out in Greece for the last 6 months after a battle with Venice
Gonna save and reload to wake them up but this should be in the bag. I guess I was stressing for nothing
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Very cool Albania
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>Venice peaced out
Otters powered up and are at 60k men now. Depending on how this battle goes I might just peace out as well for Trebizond with our gains intact
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Not looking great
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>Peace deal
Ended up playing it safe as if they sieged down Trebizond (fort was at 7%) I was screwed and their fleet was coming to blockade it. All things considered I'd say worth it, a bit unfortunate I couldn't grab Trebizond but with our contributions Ottomans weren't able to take Constantinople and we managed to take some land in the northern Caucuses nonetheless. Thanks for listening to my blog
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tall georgia is never going to cut it
you need to kill the ottermans fast and prevent muscovy from getting too big, to call it a "winning" campaign in the redhawk sense
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well this is awkward
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Estrella de Trastámara is the prettiest iberian wedding character i've ever got
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in my personal opinion it would be best to abandon that pu and just annex them the normal way but uhhh haven't played in like a year so yeah
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game was even released a year ago you lying little muffin
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The best way to win a campaign is to have fun during it.
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i cringe everytime someone cites "having fun" as their entire philoshopy
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>fun
i cannot imagine egypt being fun whatsoever now with their unique plagues. look at this
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Looks like someone is trying to keep the Egyptians down.
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just pirated EU5
I'm getting rekt as the ottomans
I've had multiple attempts so far and something always goes wrong, here's some examples
>pope invades me with a coalition (wasn't even a real coalition war wtf) out of nowhere and forces me to convert to catholicism
>orthodox revolt in literally all of my land except a few locations and declare independence afterwards
>coalition'd for vassalizing some turk minors by 1000 european countries who refuse to peace until they've occupied everything for a few years
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>pope invades me with a coalition (wasn't even a real coalition war wtf) out of nowhere and forces me to convert to catholicism
kino
but how bullshit is it to be the receiving end?
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simply how the cookie crumbles
they definitely fixed the ai aggression. I don't really feel the performance improvements though and battles feel a lot jankier without the hourly ticks.
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>and battles feel a lot jankier without the hourly ticks.
oh you're playing the current beta...
>without the hourly ticks.
man, fuck that game
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beautiful
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now you just need to convert to islam and its perfect
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a fitting religion for the smelly brown iberians
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this dj just keeps playing nothing but detroitpunk(niggers rapping about doing drugs in da hood) and im a retard who can only complain here
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>I'm getting rekt as the ottomans
that's normal
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george washington of the great artesian basin (my dream /gsg/_)
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how do you lose wars in eu5 all you need is make sure you have good prestige gain then give them humniliate when they attack you and piss out for free
thats how runs as cilicia become easy because oyu can speedblob anatolia then take your sweet time building up
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the average elected age of pope is 62, so how can he f*ck yo wife without getting a heart attack
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It's GroB PruBia time
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tfw no gsgf to play league of legends with
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>bot comments hour
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u can say what u will about paradogs, u gotta admit doe, the papal bull cheevo is a funny joke
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nursing healjobs
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>>2498918
For me, it’s Computer Gaming World
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test
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thoughts on the upcoming liqqy 2 aislop decompilation?
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looks good, lot of people wanted a vic 2 remake anyway
can you imagine theres still no daugava river in vic3
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what is this? a third vic2 remake?
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sort of
basically a lot of old games are getting decompiled with aisloppa recently, so you get effectively an open source version
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Is Victoria 3 still shit

t. bobo
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victoria 3's fundamental design philosophy prevents it from being good
eu5 on the other hand has potential, just wait for 6 gorillion dlcs
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victoria 3 and eu5 have the same core economic problem of goods being sold to skydaddy to create magic money unlike vic 2's closed system where money is finite and goods have to be bought to create profit

that being said eu5 is a decent mappainter, vic 3 can only be used to chill and watch a show with your gsgf (if i had one)
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>>2498948
>>2498950
fuck paracucks
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that's fake, johan doesn't wear a watch
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water am i looking at care to explain
i'm a white man so i hate ai but maybe i'll bother to run it if there's something conceptually cool
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that image and bobo are like 6 years old now eh
heard its still shit
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58c35
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yes i'm aware but is there anybody trying to add new shit right now or no
to me a straight decomp of v2 is just v2 but less stable and i already have like 10k hours clocked in
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theres the reddit guy adding music to certain events
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>>2498958
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the point is that (you) can add new shit without being constrained by rigid game rules
for instance base liqqy has an "assimilate" command, that can be used in events or decisions. the problem is that command cannot target individual pops or all pops of certain culture, only whole provinces. so when crimeamod wanted to assimilate all scandis into a new unified scandinavian culture it had to use a trick like migrating all scandis into a barely populated north greenland province, assimilating that province to a new culture then moving them back to their respective homelands
when you have access to the sauce code you could just modify the assimilate command to be able to target individual pops and say create the ukrainian culture when ukraine gets released
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without alex grandi there would be no new /gsg/
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>>2498808
you kill all the old mindfucked pedophiles so that someone young and uninitiated enough has to take up the role
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cool it with the antisemitism
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remember trans gsg
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no i don't
i remember tragsg, t./gsg/ and /v2g/ doe
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>>2498927
i like the menu
but the ocean and seas need to be one solid color, preferably a shade of blue that isn't the darkest nor the lightest of the ocean's gradient
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that's just mish mash map mod (mmmm)
also don't reply to me ever again
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>the ocean and seas need to be one solid color
good idea lets remove the rivers and mountains too yeah?
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in fact lets make the whole world one uniform color
red sounds good
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not sure if you're being sarcastic but i'll assume you aren't, and say that i don't want to remove rivers and mountains
actually i don't see any mountains in that 'map mode', it just looks like a political map
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but seriously i never understood the necessity of ocean depth in these map games
if there is no submarine warfare you don't fucking need it
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there are mountains on that map
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oh sorry my monitor was dirty, disregard
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no there aren't, there are just province lines and river lines
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but liqqy 2 has submarines...
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okay but how deep and far did they go
did they cross the atlantic and travel far distances to attack a country on the other side or no
if they did, i would see reason to register ocean depth on the map so that the player would know "oh i need to build a sub that has lots of operation range"
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bro i told you it's a map mod. you enable it if you like it
and if you like some parts of it but not the others it gives you customization options
https://www.moddb.com/mods/mish-mash-map-mod
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love that mod can you show what it looks like with hfm
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ah yes, the cutting-edge memegame2 naval modding where two submarines belonging to opposing belligerents would occupy the exact same ocean tile and the exact same vector3 spatial coordinates but politely refuse to acknowledge each other's existence until the hidden detection modifier authorizes them to stop clipping through each other's hulls and assume combat formation
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i don't see women, i see doctors, lawyers and engineers
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i might have made that one i dont really remember anymore
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we all miss based bobo
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if trannies are real how come they wont play euv with me
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also why isn't the /gsg/ thread on /vg/ anymore
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the janny destroyed our temple and sent our tribe into exile
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i don't even know what or who bobo/bobocrunch is
is it like a /gsg/ brand of cereal
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>>2499098
Bobocrunch is the king of /gsg/
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it's been 10+ years, give it a rest
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>>2499123
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what was so good about march of napoopan
i reckon that game had a time range shorter than even memegame2, which sounds unfulfilling and boring
*snore*
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1) time frame is not important that's like saying iskander macedonskyi was not a great man because he died early
2) you're replying to the gibberishposter
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>>2499359
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his english wikipedia page is 13266 words long even though he died at the age of 32 and gaius iulius caesar looked up to him
his legacy shaped the world for centuries. idk how you've never heard of him
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but on the other hand, you can't compare countries to people,
but if you do, then i don't want to hear about the man that lived fast and died young, i want to hear about the man that lived fast and survived into his old age to tell his grand kids about it, who transformed from little shit to gigachad to coughing old man with only an arm and 3 fingers
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that's more or less the story of the turn of the 19th century france, which mote represents
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except it's not, because 19th century france spans less than a hundred years max, depending on what you want to cover? and clearly not the multi century of something like, uhh, eu4 or ck3
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typical vieille garde grognard was 35 years old.
people just matured faster back then
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mote had a thousand provinces,.. it had three flank combat,.. it had old school gsg mechanics before some goober from this website convinced johan to embrace simulationism
above all else it was the ultimate beat 'em up, PvP /gsg/ game. it was... le soul
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>tall Georgia
>implying
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so what you're saying is you barely developed ur land but at the same time you barely conquered new provinces
more like noob georgia
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tallest mountain of georgia is 5,2km tall so that's pretty tall
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blud's whole treasury went into an entire chain of fully maintained mountain forts
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but gruzya gets huge discounts to fort maintenance, just like the livonian order
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Well rudanon for starters the land I'm conquering is relatively high dev compared to mine. On top of that these 'barely any new provinces' are time-limited in the sense that if I don't spend the resources and time now to acquire them they will be gobbled up by Ottomans or Mamluks. I have tech advantage against both Great Horde and QQ but I have the luxury of declaring on them at any time. Finally, pdx.tools tells me that I've done 36 dev clicks since game-start, which is the 4th highest amount among any other nation in the game currently all while staying relatively on time for important techs. You just don't have the vision bro
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ok but what happened to mali?
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>trade 1.79
try transferring from persiums to krim
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Not much to tell desu I ended up acquiring most of South America, got my cheevo and got out
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Clutch thanks for the reminder
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>Naval GAINS
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dont make me queue up a georgia game to show you how a real man plays
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do a georgia into persia game before i play it
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Go for it anon I enjoy seeing other timerlines.
>Georgia into Persia
Have hard about this before apparently it's fun/OP, I might try it after this colonial Georgia run
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>colonial georgia
oh no he's doing the meme
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>Go for it anon I enjoy seeing other timerlines.
But if you're doing it to one-up me make sure it's on very hard :^)
>Have hard
Have heard*
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>very hard
meme difficulty
the natural georgia path is doing georgia -> (armenia) -> byz, persia is for the qoyunlu's
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yes, that's the path intended by johan, or whatever intern was handling that mission tree
HOWEVER, georgia into persia works surprisingly well and is better than forming it as the turkomans, both in terms of bonuses and flavor
it makes no sense to form iran (aryan) and crown yourself as the aryamehr if you're brown (turk). ony a true caucasian is worthy of the title
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aryamehr (light of the aryans)
i forgot to add the parentheses
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bonuci*
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bonussy
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>>2499468
Long ago, before half of this thread was born, I did Ardalan into Persia into Mughals, and my empire stretched from Jerusalem to Japan
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ardalan is cute but afaik they dont get any permanent buffs only early access to the shia orders persia will get anyway
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wtf i didn't know we had qajar dynasty members posting amongst us
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bro is advanced in brownology™
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ardalan does get +10% shock damage dealt from their religious sect
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this meme difficulty is such a meme
heres the intial wars but after this we're pretty boxed in
its either shirvan ajam with 50k
or QQ with 45k
ottomans only have AQ but amount to 66k
ugh
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>QQ
god i hate germans
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>18:23
Is he dead? Otters declaring at the most annoying timing so I'm going to have to vassalize Cyprus instead of annexing them as I had planned:
vgh
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Forgot to mention but the reason why is a lack of colonial range, I'm coring Crete but I don't think the cta will stay valid until February
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why'd you put the herb in your name?
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My bad was in another thread and forgot to remove
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I am playing Venice while automating trade and tariffs
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that's like playing turkey while automating genocide
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>Joined the war
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cosmetic litvin alliance
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i would never ever secretly sage a /gsg/ thread let alone announce it to the world that i am indeed saging a /gsg/ thread openly.
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the previous thread spent half of its lifetime over bump limit, sage does literally nothing here
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gsg and 4chan in general lost its soul in 2014
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>Is he dead?
yeah
i vassalized gazi to get the defensive war vs shirvan then after beating their armies i attacked theodoro to get trebizond faster which got me a defensive war vs Krim but after beating them + candar's army i got attacked by QQ with their 5 shock general, so i peaced out both for just broken alliances so i can get them back after

managed to win this war with every merc i could find + defensive forts
genoa was looking to attack too but went for crimea instead because i hired mercs
muscovy is friendly so i can FINALLY ally them now
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Gratz for not pussying out and playing despite setbacks anon
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this is getting out of hand, now there's two of them
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im gonna continue my run tomorrow or something
you still wanna see me form persia yeah
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sure, but now i kinda regret divulging my super secret idea of forming persiums
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>join a bohemian imperial war to purge heresy from brandenburg
>they don't enforce religion on brandenburg
-____-
see this is what i really like about liqqy. you start a war with a certain cb and you get a prestige and militancy hit if you don't use that cb in the peace deal
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this is cute right
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no it's gross (and i do not mean groß)
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Got the last Gazikumukh province at the very least. Definitely not worth it desu
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2 dollars on that 2nd georgia guy losing the campaign despite his trash talk
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>sigismund vasa struggled his whole life to convert his home country sweden back to catholicism and never succeeded
>in eu4 you can just click a button and a pu country changes to your religion at the paltry cost of 50% liberty desire...
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We have the deeptech
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why is the black sheep so big?
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>>2499634
>in eu4 you can just click a button and a pu country changes to your religion at the paltry cost of 50% liberty desire...
It changes the state religion but not the religion of any of the provinces, and that can lead to great conflict if the state is unable to rapidly convert its provinces
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bohemia stop dragging me into stupid wars -____-

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yeah same thing would happen with the ruler changing a cunt's religion irl, BUT there would also be pushback from the nobility and clergy. here there are none
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MASSIVE naval victory in the Gulf of Satalia by the Georgio-Mamluk fleet
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shame you didn't capture any schiffs
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ugh
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woah, a league war this early
i didn't even have a chance to join the catholic side
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Immediately after that I lost 6 galleys because I was tunnel visioning on a battle. On the bright side the advance into Mamluks has been completely stalled and we now have enough quality to win battles on land. Ideally we assault the fort in Erzurum next
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>>2497161
So superior I haven't touched it since it came out
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>WOOOO YEAH BABY
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>woah, a league war this early
>look inside
>1579

i literally join the religious league war the most and the average trigger for the league war is between the earliest possible year 1550 - 1570
>https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/search/text/league/filename/screenshot/filter/text/end/2025-11-01/
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Brutal war, recovery will be painful but necessary
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Ottomans had 16% army professionalism that they burned btw
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for a player not that bad but for ai ottomans its cooked, you need big bad muscovy and gank them
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Ungarn offered an alliance during the war so when the truce is up I can declare with both Mammys and the Huns to really punish them
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ai mamluks is what i meant
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>woah, a league war this early
>look inside
>1579
but the 30 years war started in 1618???????
1579 is 39 years too early
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>war of the protestant league
>almost no protestant (north) german OPMs join the war
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yeah its called war of the protestant league not war of the north german opm league
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Wow, we have expanded in all directions! We are truly the dominant power of the region!
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Oh... I guess we are to be finding a lot of shade.
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Sparta fought a 10 year league war to control a province with a population of 40 people.
Rome fought a 3 year war against Epirus to conquer 200 people.
Might be best to stay in our lane.
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remind me why imperator rome is still shit
i know that there was at least one good reason why, i just don't remember what it was
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Couldn't sleep so I dabbed on QQ
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>>2499805
Everyone plays the same except for majors.
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>>2499706
dude your ottoman empire looks weird
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>>2499821
i'm pretty sure that wasn't the reason i was trying to remember
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>>2499805
>remind me why imperator rome is still shit
>i know that there was at least one good reason why, i just don't remember what it was
Little bit too much character management. Would've been better if it were slightly more abstracted.
And shuffling around all the governors gets annoying when you have too many regions in your empire.
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https://youtu.be/SEIPd_SupTA?si=Jcb4ZwP8ZEq-zhNs

eu5 is still in beta until every nonplayer nation is headed by ai
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the height of indian technology is wiring random shit to the free tier of chatgpt
really reminds me of the ugandan space program and whatnot
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why would he direct something to a people that don't exist?
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kek
eternal albion btfo by God, King, Fuero
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gotta love how in vic3 the tolls are just a meme because trade would rather ship around africa, only place you make mega bank is if you control indonesia and tax all chinese trade
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probably yeah, because no way they can topple me with 7 regiments per naval invasion
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>About to declare on Tunis to get closer to the mouth of the Mediterranean for ebin colonial gameplay
>Ottomans declares on Mamluks one (1) DAY before I declare on Tunis
Should have ganked them with Hungary and Mamluks instead of getting greedy, fml
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why is the black sheep so big? shouldn't you be blobbing into it?
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See 814, they blobbed during the early game pretty hard and I was too busy with the Turks and neighbouring states to deal with them. Truce ends in about 10 years so I'll go in again when it's up
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when die you declare for crimes to then get rid of the polish threat?
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The situation is looking bleak and the retarded AI is going to give me an aneurysm. Right now it is the last of my priorities. If by some miracle we achieve positive warscore in this war I can either separate peace for some of Crimes or the Mamluks will give me their land ideally.
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Finally a spat of good news after a pretty disastrous start to the war. We've matched the Otters on tech now and the fort in Krim is kill. I'm also using my scutaged vassals to do a bit of trolling in the Balkans
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shoulda declined the cta and declared your own with hun gary
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and lost precious diplo rep???
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israel doesnt have any and its doing just fine
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In the end I scraped together enough warscore to whitepeace them on high enthusiasm. I swear I will destroy the Mamluks for their incompetence before this run is over. They didn't even attempt to resiege their land even when the entire Otter army was in the Pontic Steppe or the Caucasia.
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their negative diplo rep is increasing the liberty desire of their subjects
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why does this guy never have positive income nor positive prestige?
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Cursed with poor heirs and we're almost 3k in debt anon, take a guess
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just sell some crownland bro
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I'm tilted af I'm ngl, immediately saved and quit once that war was over
>Sell some crownland bro
I've been doing it every 5 years while trying to stay at minimum 10 to not nuke autonomy. I think the play is a tactical bankruptcy and then ganking the Turks as soon as it runs its course
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Look at this garbage, the only saving grace is the traits of our rulers have been pretty good all things considered. Current heir is a 1/0/3 and the previous one was a 2/2/1 btw
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qq is stealing shirvan from under our nose, ugh
could gank the golden horde with the russians, should we do this?
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yes and blob into sarai
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dude what if we take cuntry and make it gross
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ack
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I think you really need Imperator Rome pops to have your primary culture. It seems like non-accepted pops lose 30% efficiency and don't join the army.
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>didn't get sarai for the mission AND got wardecced by the ottermans
lol
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>losing out on completing these two missions back to back
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TWENTY whole infantry oh geez
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i get the mission in 5 years chile, had to peace out for just mil access and 50 bucks
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argentina
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first idea group?
court? espionage? maybe quantity?
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whatevr peacdeal because the muscovites ran way to chase ghosts
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fallout from the mamluks qq war
ottomans are deep in debt, this looks tempting but risky
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god look at these generals
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sweet
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looks like i have to buy another mouse
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legalize raping georgians
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my mouse double clicked the other day but i just kept using it till it magically healed itself, before you throw it, maybe it's just windows fucking it up.
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mine did that too, but now it's been niggering on me for three days straight
not just double-clicking but also the left button just just doesn't register for like 4 clicks straight
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but the good news is that at least i know not to get another m170, but to stick with the dash lite
both are around the same price, both start being faggots around past the 1-year mark, but one is a silent clicker and has the sleep function
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exactly my case too, i highly suspect it's windows doing now, well i mean not directly but some random program might interfere with the .dll that that random software and the modern trannyfied multiple layered input pipeline are sharing
also pricey mouse is a meme, i just buy whatever the cheapest honeycomb chinaware i could find and dominate the lobby with it
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tip if you're having mouse trouble. turn it off and shake it like sharon and her sheikweight. percussive maintenace actually works here
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>>2500213
Revert to Islam or face jahannam
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Is EU5 good yet?
Does it have a fantasy mod yet?
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>believe everything what
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yes
no
play euv with me cutie
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I'm a man, I am not "cute".
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>>2500258
revert means to go back to
however, i don't have any camelfucker ancestors so islam isn't something i would be reverting to if i were low iq enough to submit to it
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>I’m a man
not for long
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hey guys
r8 my art
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actually baffling how the georgians weren't systematically genocided after stalin died how'd that happen
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isn't georgia like the macedonia of russia
if one great leader like stalin dies, then russians would welcome more great leaders to come out of there
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yea i've decided i'll try vic3 again for the first time in 1-2 years
just need to get the free space in my drive above 1gb first
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>>2500088
i wish i was here last night to suggest innovative ideas
but why do you have so many diplo points? did you not dev your capital which produces very expensive dyes to spawn the institution, get a shitload of money and improve your crownland (to sell titles and get even more money)?? why is your pp so small??? why don't you have subjects???? a trabzon march would be incredibly helpful against the ottomans, so would a vassal cherkasia for additional force limit and additional troops
do i really have to play georgiums myself to show you how it's done?
nice digits btw
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Finished my 3-week Imperator game last night, played all the way to 300 AD.
>AI Rome has 1 million troops and 2000 ships
>to stop their expansion, I intervened in all their wars
>so, I was constantly at war with Rome because intervention overrode truces
>most wars ended in white peace and cost 2 million casualties

I finally decided to rage quit after the game crashed and the auto-save got corrupted, which would have forced me to go back 20 years.
Genuinely far more enjoyment from what I have gotten from CK3.
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1 million troops huh sounds like pure agony
that being said i would like a game that goes from like 100 ad to 900
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>>2500472
>1 million troops huh sounds like pure agony
Yes, especially since every battle takes 8 months and only gives you like 2 warscore, while stack wiping 10K will give you 3 warscore.
It truly is a ww1 experience.

>that being said i would like a game that goes from like 100 ad to 900
No game has balls to depic 7th century, because they are afraid jihadists will car bomb the devs.
Which is an extremely stupid reason to avoid an entire century of history. If it is a real concern, there are alternatives; they renamed Muhammad and Islam.
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i fully believe rise of islam as well as islamic cunts in general could be very fun in gsg
you just need pop history to shift its direction a bit so the average minekid can learn enough about the countries with youtube vids so that the same stuff as with imperator where nobody knows anybody outside of rome doesn't happen
and also for muslims to stop beheading people who put them in shitty games, and for westerners to evaluate islamic civilization properly instead of writing it off as oogabooga niggers/wakanda
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pisslam is in fact a retarded oogabooga gorilla nigger warmongering ideology centered around submitting oneself to its precious zutt rape victim dead prophet and pisslamic uncivilization has been nothing but 14 straight centuries of oogabooga warmongering because that's what their literal huge faggot prophet told them to do before he got poisoned by a random jewess servant lmao
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kek
i didnt get any diplo tech and didnt buy down war exhaustion, just sat on 20 and killed the rebels
i developed tblisi, kartly and imereti in dip (but only dip so theyre up to 7 production dev)
dulkadir, eretna, candar, gazikumukh and theodoro are my vassals though i might have gone just a bit too far on AE
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oh yeah i went court ideas btw, theyre so cute
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v3 looks like it was made for 6 year-olds
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>>2500485
game with 476 AD start would be kino
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crusader kings 3: the fallen eagle (mod)
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>>2500534
I can't stand game anymore, even with mods
It is too rotten
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>>2500546
>>2500546
>>2500546
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game ... bad
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>>2500500
i forgot to say this but jai hind we will enslave all paki women and sacrifice their men to vishnu
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when will poland PAY for occupying rightful GERMAN LAND¡!!!!!!!!
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>rape foreign women
That's sort incel fantasy; in reality, rape war time rape didn't exist before the Rape of Nanking
Historically, when army conquered a city, women weren't raped; they simply submitted to the conqueror for better treatment
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did you know african and arab women do the same with whites? fetisization and exoticism seems universal desu
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don't click it's black and white strobe lights blinking really fast you'll get an epileptic shock
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i don't have to click, hovering my cursor over it does the trick
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yes but think of the epileptic greeks
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it's spelled epiriotic
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no it isnt
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greeks being upset over the osman empire is like lithuanians being upset over poland-lithuania
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chudites being upset over the ottoman empire is like being upset over grossgermaniums
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but chuds lived in russia
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Is there any particular reason why PDX hates garrisons?
Like garrisons all their games are magic auto-filling units.
Historically, armies shrank because they had to leave troops behind, and actually assigning too few could backfire. Like Napoleon only left 5K to guard Minks where most of his food was, so 30K Russians took it with ease.
I guess a forumite would argue that it would be too tedius, but I beg to differ
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Imperator represents it in a limited extent (each level of fort in a territory reduces its manpower contribution by 5%)
which is better than most of their games do
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youre saying pdx games but its just eu4 and 5
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yeah
well and CK2
and also CK3
and Vicky 2 too
and Hearts of Iron 4
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>>2500959
well not that either Vic or HoI have "garrisons" as real numbers, but neither makes fortifications so much as a single person to maintain
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hoi4 doesnt have garrisons, theyre (military) police
vic 3 doesnt have garrisons stat
>but why do provinces stay occupied
same reason as in eu4, vic 2, etc, disney magic

you likely think liqqy forts have little archers and you need to siege them down like in eu4 yeah?
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no
instead they are big unmanned empty buildings that are so scary that they make your troops take longer to occupy the land because it's too scary to approach
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spooky
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almost 20 posts since the last 24 hour period
/gsg/ is on the mend
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ah yes, the unparalleled realism of memegame2 where you don’t need garrisons, supply depots or administrative effort to occupy something. just park 3,000 infantries in the middle of a province, and suddenly the entire region, villages and all, stops functioning. factories shut down, trade ceases, millions of civilians freeze in place. there are no partisans, no collaborators, no divided loyalties. the game doesn't simulate the messy grind of suppression, rebellion or the cost of keeping order. just instant, total compliance, as if your troops successfully planted a magical AoE mind control field that blankets thousands of square kilometers, compelling millions of terrified peasants to freeze in place, forget how to resist and quietly starve. the field apparently disrupts agriculture, trade and human willpower simultaneously, ensuring that not a single factory worker, farmer or bandit can move a muscle, it doesn't matter that there are mountains, forests or half a dozen hostile militias still roaming the land. once a regiment activates its psychic emitter, the entire province politely enters a coma until it's liberated or peace is signed.
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hey mountains do matter
so long as they are named the Himalayas. maybe also the Alps? it's been a while since I've played there, I don't know which mods make the Alps impassible and which ones don't
still ridiculous that it acts as a hard pass though. Tibetans and Nepalis armed with sticks and stones, living in that region for millennia, are just as unable to fight through Himalayan passes as British men in tanks dragging artillery everywhere
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>>2500949
That's such weird decision; it essentially motivates player to build mega forts in cities that have low population
Seems like the no-brainer would be to just make every fort cost a fixed amount global manpower
>>2500955
it is in in ck3 and imperator too
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>>2501007
>it essentially motivates player to build mega forts in cities that have low population
this is somewhat balanced out by the fact that the major factor in determining building limit is population. not the only factor but by far the most prominent
namely 1 slot for every 10 pops. of course that doesn't correspond to manpower either because different pop classes contribute different amounts of manpower, but
like, the problem is still somewhat present, but to fully capitalise on it you would need to do a LOT of extra investment into a location that is otherwise going to be worthless
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>determining building limit is population
That is true too
Speaking fortress, another thing they get wrogn is linearity. In Johan's mind bigger fortres = better, it has more garrison, and siege lasts longer.
But in truth, bigger did not equal better, because garrison density mattered a lot.
Like Latin Empire did not have numbers effectively garrison the walls of Constantinople because they were so wide
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but eu4 fortresses scale only in garrison and fort level. we don't know whether they scale in size
the ridiculous part is that the garrisons are magically spawned and reinforced, also that they can be made into supersoldiers with +100% infantry combat ability quite easily
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>we don't know whether they scale in size
Garrison size most certain implies it does.
>spawned and reinforced
Exactly, would it be so bad if one of your infantry regiments automatically stayed behind to garrison it?
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the post i replied to mentioned density of garrison, and that's what i was referring to
after all we all know that density is mass times volume, so the increase of mass could either mean the increase of density (if volume was left constant) or volume (if density was left constant). eu4 doesn't specify which. possibly it's both in an adiabatic increase
>would it be so bad if one of your infantry regiments automatically stayed behind
considering the 20th century stay behind operations like op. gladio then yes, i'd say it's bad
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density is mass divided by volume though?
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uhhh yes you're right god i have to stop rewriting my post mid-sentence i always end up bungling something up
much better to go with the original idea to the end
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thats actually one of the things i like about eu5. severe winter in himialays or other mountainous areas makes them impassible and traps armies present in attrition.
>garrison supersoldier
garrison army damage, my beloved
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eu5 used to have uncapped attrition as well, but johan got salty in an mp session and capped it to 5%
later they tried to alleviate that via modifiers that raise the cap, but it's still nothing like early eu4
btw remember when eu4 had a basic supply and demand system for trade goods? i member
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I want to restore Germany to an empire.
Shouldn't we bring the emperor back now?
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niggers
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wtf you can't say that!
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>garrison density
would be something like _combat width_ i suppose
also, you couldn't have chosen a worse example because latin empire didn't really have issues with numbers, because constantinople was so goated that you can just leave it to a dozen of bearded greek dudes with an icon of the perpetual virgin and expect it to be nigh impregnable. and they did in fact do something like this not knowing the byzies found a super secret backdoor into the city, at night no less
now, just like the combat width, our new Fort Width™ will take the possible engagement length into account. take for example constantinople, while it has a lengthy wall, you don't normally storm their sea walls unless 1. you can contest them navally 2. you wanna die so badly because it's way harder to embark+disembark so many men to storm such a miserable landing area
meanwhile, to defend a city like rome, given that the invader brought a huge force, you would need to cover the full circumference of the entire city
anyway, later eu4's era advancements in fort design is basicly just making them narrower and narrower (spiky like a star) so you could cover an otherwise full length 1600s european city with massively fewer men than what it would take in the previous centuries
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>just making them narrower and narrower (spiky like a star) so you could cover an otherwise full length 1600s european city with massively fewer men than what it would take in the previous centuries
uhm that makes no sense assuming the same area within the walls
reminds me of sloped tank armor not actually saving weight
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wait you're right i'm retarded
trace italienne forts do actually require more garrison, in fact it's the entire idea of that design, you build more platforms for garrison to stand on while covering the same length of the city. but now how would you determine the engagement area since you don't normally assault it directly?
btw another example would be medieval paris, it's basicly just an island so you don't engage it orthodoxly either and this renders the guy that was talking about scaling in size incoherent
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yeah you engage it catholically
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no such thing garrison density, armies with fewer men used to just attack a section of the wall and leave the rest unattended, same goes with the defenders behind the wall. they didn't just comically spread out in order to flank each other like it's ww1.
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*builds a wall around your right flank*
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im sure they would at least leave like 5 or 10 dudes per flank if nothing else to warn the other or surveil area for reinforcements
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https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/List_of_decision_lists#Old_missions_decisions
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>>2501086
>the byzies found a super secret backdoor into the city, at night no less
You sent me down a rabbit hole; the whole thing is a mess...
So, Wikipedia says "to make their way to the city through a secret passage." and cites Donald Nicols.
Who then cites Deno Geanakoplos for the secret passage. But Geanakoplos reviews different primary sources and concludes he has no idea whether a secret passage existed (pic related).
The primary source Akropolites says the Nicenes entered the city through a crack in the walls, while another primary chronicle, Pachymeres, says 400 Greeks inside the walls killed the sleeping guards and opened the gates for 800 Nicenes. Only Gregoras mentions a secret passage.

Either way, all sources agree that a contributing factor was the poor condition of the walls.
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so what you're saying is that it's the fault of the masonry?
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I mean, the walls were designed to manned by 15K troops.
Latin Empire had fewer than 3K in its last years.
In 1260, it had sustained damage from a siege, and it did not have enough garrison to repair the wall.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAHupcS72Zo
11 minutes of esl talking about liqqy
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did you know that robert spencer wrote a book about the byzantine empire? it's written in everyday english too making it easier to read
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okay, but who asked?
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that reads like something that came out of ck2 kek
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*blübs*
i puppeted ukraine after this too btw
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>play someone's game set in fantasy world
>they have no idea how rivers fork
why the fuck is this so hard?
Rivers have exactly three rules.
1. they don't split
2. they don't span from coast to coast
3. lakes have multiple outlets but only one inlet
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>rivers don't split
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_delta
and don't u mean that lakes have multiple inlets but only one outlet?
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that's more correct but it's still not true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_bifurcation
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that's cheating because it's two lakes that merged
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which is obviously impossible in a fantasy world and reserved to real life only
arguably point 2 is also incorrect. (terrestrial) rivers don't do that, but that's just because they're called straits instead
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but straits are short and wide generally
look at malacca, look at la manche
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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_delta
Exception.
>and don't u mean that lakes have multiple inlets but only one outlet?
right, my bad
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there are plenty of narrow straits
just look at Scotland's firths, or the passages on the Pacific coasts of British Columbia and Washington
>Exception
there are also just an entire class of systems called bifurcated rivers which do exactly that at a non-deltaic level
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or the various passages between the Kattegat Baltic
names completely slipped my mind somehow (it's because I'm not retarded enough to know Danish)
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>exception
>a major portion of humanity lives in deltas
>they're very conducive to spawning centralized states
uh yeah a breathable atmosphere is an exception in the solar system which is why you should make your epic fantasy world inhospitable

>bifurcated rivers
those are a meme and the only way for them to be permanent is to be manmade or manreinforced, like that small river in serbia (nerodime)
although it would be epic to create a world that just explains "anomalies" like these by making a split river leg a canal built by an ancient civilization
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>>2501446
>>a major portion of humanity lives in deltas
depends how you define them, you'd probably London is in a delta, even though Thames doesn't split
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it's called a delta because it looks like Δ
how is it going to look like Δ unless it splits
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no i'm mostly thinking of nile delta and ganges delta, and while not exactly a delta, but still a mess of multiple rivers, the land between tigris and euphrates
their pop density used to be way higher than the rest of the world
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Delta exist when sediment flows into oulet where the current is fast enough to push the sediment out.
That means deltas can only exist in very limited places along mega rivers
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yeah it's only a delta if it splits otherwise it's an estuary and gives you +10 local trade power
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>using shittoria 2 terminology outside of talking about the game
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jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
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>liq2 hater so mindbroken he starts hallucinating
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what if its not a split river but a completely new one?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sqnxlzLakU
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man the americas really have a bizarre geography don't they
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for me it's how pretty much everything outside of europe is just a blob of land
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>2501468
always liked how the Missouri is the dominant river in that system but it's still called the Mississippi anyway because the French are dumbasses who just assumed the one to their right was bigger for some reason
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probably because missouri, despite being long, has comparatively little water flow
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if water flow is the determining factor shouldn't it be the Ohio?
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the french didn't know that
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you should've googled the meaning of the word mississippi before you look like a dumbass
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>that much movement
low sens noob
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i don't get this new school idea of having dpi
back when i still played first person shooters and played them well i used low dpi and a big mousepad and could get the precision as well as quick 120+ degree turns
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^ i'm too old for ts shit ahh post
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if you engage in ironic niggerbabbleposting you run the risk of it turning unironic
keep that in mind
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>>2501598
how do gibberish-babbling retards like this faggot make it into this sacred gsg general?
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the less incredible ibex gets hit by a falling tree and dies, going extinct, and then gets cloned, and then dies again and goes extinct a second time
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what did he mean by this?
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question /gsg/ should I continue my georgia game or my ayuuthuya & chill campaign?
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1. it's ayutthaya
2. wtf are u asking us for dawg? you're a grown up make your own decision.
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3. obviously i ended up picking something to do 3h later
4. /gsg/ is akin to a random number generator but for text. you've never flipped a coin to make a decision before?
5. i also used this to guage interest in continuing to campaignpost as georgia otherwise i'll just play without doing that
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business idea: finish a campaign for once
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business idea: play a better game (eu5)
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business idea: become a better man
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business idea: become a woman
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business idea: convert to protestantism
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business idea: convert to polytheism
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business idea: convert to homosexuality
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but that's gay
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okay well since you broke the chain I'd like to type out what I actually wanted to say
there is no such thing as converting to polytheism, at most you can reject monotheism and REVERT to polytheism
Polytheism is just unabashed superstition
polytheistc religion isn't about a way of life as much as it is about manipulating esoteric forces to supposedly help you in daily life. you leave money at the spirit shrine so the spirit does some shit, you leave out a cake for Jupiter so the harvest is better, you don't walk under a ladder because Mars will freak out or whatever
you don't convert to polytheism, you just accept a much lower threshold for when you're willing to believe anything. Polytheists polemics against chrisitanity are never "Yeah that didn't happen, he didn't really walk on water" it's "Yeah well he got that shit from magicians in Egypt, nothing special here"
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this is why protestants (rightfully) don't consider catholics monotheists
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it's okay, Protestants aren't monotheists either
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wow thanks for the enlightenment
now do it in english you polish retard
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just grok it
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if you can't be arsed, i can't be arsed
if you won't translate it, it means it wasn't important anyways
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the real question
is USA even Christian?
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where did the georgia poster go
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when is the last time you:
1. went to church
2. read the bible
3. prayed to god
4. spent an entire week without thoughts on race
this greatly determines whether you are a christian or not
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im catholic
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as a true american patriot I
went to an evangelical church
read the old testament
prayed to g-d
thought nothing wrong of my black grandson
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based black american
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ugh tell me what to play
i want to do eu5 again but its DEAD
if i dont come up with anything i have to play league of legends again
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go try distant worlds 1 then
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actually nevermind, if you are the kind of person that needs others to tell him what to play then you aren't capable of handling distant worlds 1
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some day men will be able to control the byzantine empire in a grand strategy like manner from the comfort of their mobile phone
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if you think nignogs are human you're not a christian shrimple as that
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i wonder where it is you got your ass-backwards idea of what is christian and what isn't
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the bible
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in the new testament jesus validated the foreign woman her salvation through her faith, despite her being a non-jew
the disciples, along with paul/saul, worked to bring the gospel to all jews and gentiles alike
so by extension, "nignogs" are a part of the pool of candidates for being christian
therefore descriminating against christians is not christ-like
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oh, and race is finalized as a jewish construct
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i mean, race is a real thing, but it isn't a compass for animosity
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foreign women aren't animals unlike nignogs so that has no relevance to the conversation
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i have a mission to civilize
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why play civ when you have perfectly good victoria 3
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if they are animals, how come their seed and eggs are compatible with ours? curious...
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it's really impressive how spiteful you all are by not quoting anyone in this thread and just sticking to your posting style

tell me, why are you guys so hateful? ever thought that it might hurt someone's feeling to be deprived of a (you)?
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you'd have to be some gay faggot to feel hurt by not getting any (you)s... just sayin'...
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>cause of all kinds of genetic issues and deformities
>compatible
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not an argument, since this form of interracial reproduction pictured (a half black, half european) is still possible
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it is an argument doe
just because your favorite celeb exists doesn't mean there are no widespread issues with miscegenation. just look at how mentally ill most everyone in the americas is, desperately searching for belonging because they have no tribe they belong to naturally, unquestioningly. it leads them to the worst places like religious extremism or even worse turning ideology into a religion
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im not hateful i love all my gsgs
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you can't handle distant worlds 1
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i can barely handle this world and you want me to handle distant worlds???
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funny the replyfag should say we're hateful when all we've come to expect from replyfags in this general is blind hatred and malice
they come here, disregard our culture and keep replying maliciously and even gloating about it. is a polynesian hateful because he drinks the ashes of his ancestors to gain mana? no, it's his culture
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it's not an argument, because by having the compatibility to reproduce with whites and other humans they have already distinguished themselves from animals
that is the compatibility, the ability to reproduce with us
the "deformies and genetic issues" factor is irrelevant, not a disqualifier
and actually, by trying to breed with actual animals, the "genetic issues and deformities" factor doesn't even come up, because there is no offspring coming out of this
your "argument" is troll-tier and absolutely invalid
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why? that's something you presupposed and that guy has no obligation to argument for or against your imagined boundary conditions for "animal vs man", which in of itself is a nebulous argument more religious or social than based on reproduction
you're confusing calling them animals with calling them a different specie, which also could be perfectly valid since linnaeus and his disciples despite all their rules still set up species haphazardly and there are plenty of animals that can crossbreed with different species and produce fertile offspring
you're basically trying to bait him into defending an indefensible position which is contrary to what he originally claimed. so you're either a malicious and arguing for the sake of winning an argument or plain stupid
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humster
hamsters are humans too
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did you know "dumpster" was a trademarked name of the dempster brothers?
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>which in of itself is a nebulous argument more religious or social than based on reproduction
it's only nebulous if you rely on an obsolete school of thought
>you're confusing calling them animals with calling them a different specie, which also could be perfectly valid since linnaeus and his disciples despite all their rules still set up species haphazardly and there are plenty of animals that can crossbreed with different species and produce fertile offspring
so you individually are calling all humans animals, as is taught in modern education in public schools
whereas the other poster was explicitly displaying that "foreign women" and "nignogs" are different in that one of them aren't animals
because i'm arguing with him, the linnaeus bit you brought up is your interference and is just you trying to move his goal posts for him
buzz off kid
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>so you individually are calling all humans animals, as is taught in modern education in public schools
see? you're doing the thing again, with trying to twist my words into something i have not said
it's like trying to assert saying "polar bear male and brown bear female can produce fertile offspring" means the same thing as "polar bear and brown bear are one and the same species"
meanwhile foreigners (for instance asiatics) differ from n-words by the simple fact that they're capable of and in fact have built civilizations, which animals are incapable of. well, orcas come actually close but they can't build great works because they're underwater. tough luck

anyways, i'm not trying to move goalposts for him, i'm just trying to correctly identify how you're inching goalposts in this conversation i inadvertently inserted myself into. just like i've inserted myself into your mother last night
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i jumped straight to the end of your last line, good thing too, reading your entire post would be a waste of effort
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and now we plainly see that you are in fact malicious and arguing for the sake of winning an argument
see how easy this was?
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>you are in fact malicious and arguing for the sake of winning an argument
also that's some weird projection you did there
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why'd you post that, 57?
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because that poster is one of the /gsg/ trannies
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>click the video
>immediately be greeted with the worst pronunciation of banat i've ever heard
>close the tab
why the FUCK would you ever pronounce it b'nat? it's not ashkenazi primary culture
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better question is why the FUCK would you watch a video with a thumbnail like that?
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a female deer
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65
i was morbidly curious. you know like when you watch those liveleak (pbuh) gore videos

66
yeah, she doesn't. on the other hand HE says "paraguay and then banat (pronounced b'nat) at 0:18
the pronunciation is so bad you probably didn't register it
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yes
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post maps or heck off
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here's a MAP
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for me, it's **Coal**
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>>2502946
I did but now you have me wondering
do we have any documentation to suggest the magnitude of dumpy the dumpy brothers were packing?
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ugh
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wtf georgiums is winning with such a small army
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guess it's the power of high morale
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well both that and defending in the mountains
I need to do a Georgia run at some point, this reminds me. just stack fort defence to the max to grief the uncaring AI to the maximum extent possible.

Not joking when I say I have been legitimately, genuinely griefed by PDX AI before (in CK2 though) so it's just payback
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we've lost 2 georgia posters already dont make us lose a third
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what the hell is so great about georgia anyways
texas is much more interesting...
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texas was neutral in the war of northern aggression, therefore they're traitors
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my image did the retarded thing where it turns sideways
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there is still one..
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someone give that guy a cheeseburger
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Anyone else find it really cool whenever some random foreigner appears in one's court in ck2? Especially when my court is on the other side of the world. I like the idea of some exile adventurer enduring untold hardships and ending up in my realm and offering me their services. If they have decent stats I like to employ them and then later potentially land them rather than yet another randomly generated courtier of my own culture. Occasionally I've even seen them convert the county I give them to their own culture, which I find really cool. A little enclave of exiles, merchants and travellers founding their own little towns.
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in ck3, they come along with their own entourage, mostly their family
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okay but who asked
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wholesome
chungus
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i'm not a racist because hating 7 billion people is hard work
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oh okay
not all evropeans though
i don't live near any gypsies
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you just haven't noticed them yet
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im not racist because all pops can assimilate to my culture
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i quit wow to play gsg
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>protestants don't consider catholics monotheists
bitch your heretical utterances were already handled during the council of chalcedon 1500 years ago. you are a brainlet heretic, following a gross perversion of scripture and faith. you have the theological understanding of a pagan larper; you have never read the bible, and you will (god willing) NEVER be accepted into heaven. go pray to your lesbian pastor in your trans inclusive 'church' (read synagogue of satan) and don't you EVER speak on our faith again
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you still have shit taste for having enjoyed wow
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i know
i am a paradox paypiggy desu
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dont know what people see in wow i used to play it on a friends account 15 years ago and it was just ok
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*blobs*
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>you have the theological understanding of a pagan larper
so in other words, a catholic
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>>2503615
>im not racist because all pops can assimilate to my culture
this is honestly the only good part of EUV
you get to assimilate all the Ashkenazi jews in Paris to French Catholics
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>im rubber youre glue
about the level of discourse ive come to expect from prodkikes
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longinus prodded a kike
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the jew that saves the world
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>you have the theological understanding of a pagan larper; you have never read the bible
according to the catholic church i shouldn't, because I wouldn't be doing so with their official church doctrine in my other hand to get the "correct" "apostolic" interpretation


There is no definition of idolatry that would include what Romans did with regards to images of Caesar yet exclude what Catholics do towards Mary and other saints.

This is the one thing Protestants, Jews, and Muslims all find common ground on.

>b-but the church or Rome is somehow super special and has unique powers of okaying idolatry
Christians were specifically warned against idolatry (1 John 5:21) and the church of Rome was warned that it might be cut off (Romans 11:21), showing that it was neither impossible for churches to become idolatrous nor for the church of Rome to fall away.
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idolatry =/ paganism
this is just a word game at this point, no sect of christianity is strictly monotheistic in the most strict (muslim) sense of the word because of the trinity already, neither are modern day "jews". you're trying to judge everyone by an arbitrary muslim standard that muslims don't even hold to, as seen by their reverence for the qumran or mohammad (or ali)
veneration of saints is only idolatry in the muslim intellectual fartsniffing way, if God didn't want the church to construct alters to saints there wouldn't be books in the bible dedicated to their accomplishments and miracles.
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look chud, if you admire and look up to anyone but mohammad you're literally making a golden calf
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this
saints and prophets are demonstrated time and time and time again, both in the bible and in everyday life (see: padre pio for a recent example) to have higher levels of agency than transcend moral standards. Why wouldn't you pray to them for aid? The answr is that their powers are of the spirit, and protestants are reprobates so vile they are incapable of receiving the spirit.
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reject multi kulti christianity and retvrn to your ancestral polytheistic traditions my dudes. simple as that.
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but that's a religion of the aryan invaders which were "multi kulti" as well. it's not the true religion of my ancestors
*returns to longhouse mommy worship*
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>foreign religion from levant
-_-
>foreign religion from central asia
Ö
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if you're actually an American Indian then you're most likely either adopted from some African or European family or a descendant of Lamanites meaning your ancestral religion is indeed monotheistic
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>>foreign religion from central asia
which one r u referring to
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i just think catechism is a cute word
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the one that came with the proto indo europeans yet people for some reason assume was native to europe simply because there are no written sources from back then
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can't write catechism without cat
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> simply because there are no written sources from back then
from this alone, you can't prove the contrary
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>proto indo european
>not european
u ok bro?
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yes, central asians are not native to europe
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azeris are caucasian therefore white
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speaking of which what happened to the guy that posted the azeri fox?
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azeris are persians larping as turks
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Western poles are germans larping as slavs
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western poles are eastern poles doe
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the poles are shifting...
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Poles living in the "recovered territories" are a mixture of Poles deported from Kresy, but also a lot of Ruthenians, Lemkos and Boykos, deported from the south of Poland: as 29's map shows, along the Beskids (Łemkowszczyzna) down to Bieszczady (Bojkowszczyzna).
This is about 15-20% of total deportations. Must have been whiplash for these peasants to be forced from legitimately mediaeval lifestyles into industrialised Germanised cities. But it pisses me off that these regions are now just full of boring old Polish villages that happen to have beautiful old cerkwie in the middle of them.
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pommerania and prusy had about 0 industry beside ships fish and wood, silesia had actual poles and slav silesians
the real whiplash is having trains and family farmland as opposed to slaving away for a big landlord
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>pagan larper
https://youtu.be/58TWLbO1I-s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xigNTeoUJk
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>Those three all-powerful, all-ignorant men … sitting there carving continents with only a child to lead them.
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t. butthurt von der leyen simp
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>child
what did 70 mean by this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7gCt-7kKk
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why is my HPM campaign having an artillery shortage when it's only the 1840s?
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play memegame, get memed on
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early game is the only time there are shortages in the game
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at least your pops are still meeting their daily cement intake
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finally a day with no rain
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so what happened to pole5fag
why did he stop campaignposting
did he get sent to jewkraine
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Which gsg should i spend my day playing? My options are Stellaris and Vic3
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definitely shitlaris, it is the better game
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test
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was my post deleted? i only said, my ukrainian girlfriends loves, when i beat up poland in gsg
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test
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>me when playing hellas in liqquy
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>thousands of homeless, shirtless memegame2 soldier pops when you give them black power-less 20 flintlock muskets and a can of tuna
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incredible how that really happened in real life
even now there are 10 million albanians out there who think they're greek
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they are very happy with this mindset, moreso after marco rubio paid them a visit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL_31WyjVkk
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marco rubio eh more like mario rubicle
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marcus rubius will reconquer cuba, finally end communism and save western civilization
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filipino gaming
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who would win 2026 Africa or one 1836 Ebins Prubens Reichums?
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epic mission
what does tiwi produce?
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Fish unfortunately
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Here's what SEA looks like btw
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it looks nice and blue
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u_gZJJiiCyo
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>shorts
shan't be clicking
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>api-api
made up tag
if youre gonig for the achievement (youre slow) do yourself a favor and rush maritime (or naval if you have to) ideas and swap to admiralty regime for the ccr
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apu apu
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man... Miss my Brunei Campaign ngl.
How my galleys whacked everything and the First Blockade of China for money
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Yeah they're a trading city I created. Regarding the achievement my plan was to build a hecking wholesome trade empire and powerbase/unite the Phillipines and make trade posts to India. Afterwards I was going to flip to Thassalocracy and drop Expansion for Admin before going sicko mode.
>Slow
I'm big chilling desu didn't want to sweat too hard
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i thought bing chilling was just the name of the brand but thats what chinese people call icecream
crazy

youre on eastern plutocracy yeah? trade cities are sort of a meme considering you cant subjugate them and you have to give them your land
imo just flip to admiralty (25 ccr on coastal) and larp as your trade empire that way
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trade cities are great if ur a thalassocracy because you can turn em into opm trade protectorates and each trade protectorate gives you +5% global trade power and +2% good produced
so if you have 100 trade protectorates it's +500% global trade power and +200% goods produced
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imagine how many sea cucumbers you could farm if you had +200% goods produced
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>Eco
I'll speed up my plans to transition to a Thassalocracy. Just to clarify do you know if you keep the trade republic/eastern plutocracy mechanics if you flip?
>Trade cities are a meme
Meh I get a decent chunk of extra manpower, land/naval forcelimit and income from the trade/goods produced bonuses. The main reason keeping me from conquering more at the moment is that I'm at the limit for govcap currently and I was doing a bit of developing(192/200). Once I get Courthouses and Regimental Camps established and upgrade rank to a kingdom I'll start being more aggressive.
>76/80
Yeah I saw an AAR where a guy tried to make as many as possible in the Med. He had insane amount of the bonuses iirc. Cucumbers soon
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you do keep them
trade republic is a tier 1 reform and seacracy is tier 8
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I'm retarded I was confusing 'Thassalocracy' with 'Admiralty Regime' (unique maritime T1 govtype)
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>>2505471
My first serious EU IV game was Brunei, like 12 years ago. I enjoyed building boats and swimming in trade money.
>>2505449
Philippine Tiger is fun
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did austronesians just believe that the world was one great big ocean dotted with islands?
did they believe malaysia/vietnam/northern australia/whatever were just islands of similar scale to sumatra or borneo?
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We're slowly increasing our influence in India. Killing Sunda in the meantime, and then it's off to bully Ming. Think I'll stop here thoughbeit
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Yeah hard agree
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youre screwed on gov cap because youre a merchant republic with +25 percent cost
if you swap to admiralty you get -25% gc cost in coastal provinces
but then you dont get to abuse your citylets
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eh +25% state governing cost is not really that bad
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fr?
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france has nothing to do with it
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france has a mission that lets them stack gov cap
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We have acquired the gold mine
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don't forgor to colonize the christmas island so portugal can't reach australia
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playing tall would be cool if you actually had shit to do
at the same time playing tall is nice as is because you can just tab out on speed 5 and not bother with the game
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blobbing is jewish in anglo-jewish banker kind of way
natural tall borders are germanic.... aryan even
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whats the natural borders of bohemia-nitra
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czechoslovakia but without the suzetenland
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vgh time to watch the ai play the game while i do crunches
playing tall is a bliss
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form grossgermaniums with a grosssbaltikums puppet state in the east going all the way to the urals. make NO mistakes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqh7oI1saSQ
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Why do all people with schizophrenia ultimately end up with the concept of "gang stalking"?
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same reason mapgamers come up with the idea that the ai is focussing them
its just bias and an easy excuse you can fit everything into
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you're a gullible moron if you think eu4 ai don't go out of their way to mess up with your interests
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so hol up you telling me that eu4 be like that?
dayumn my n word
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if you aren't being gang stalked then clearly you're doing everything wrong
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https://youtu.be/rqh7oI1saSQ
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no need to repeat yourself, i won't click it anyway
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the famous liqqytranny browses our thread
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having a melty over liqqy
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Sino-Japanese War, 125 BC edition.
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https://pl.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=69040e43e57c2
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link doesn't work retard
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https://youtu.be/SENj4GFqFUk

you need Christ
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>post trash porn
>samefag reply to it with baiting about christianity
oy i'm noticing, even without clicking either of the links
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samefagging? on MY t.gsg?
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by god no, eu4 scum
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trans gsg....
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i was all gud with trans gsg until they started being all flamboyant about it...
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>2506552
guaranteed this bitch is paid hasbara
wonder how much the nosejob cost
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>a hell that froze over
horrifying implications
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have you watched M: son of the century yet?
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what anime is that
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i'm no damn M
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i'm daddying up your century with your mom
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWxnCT5_-Zk
rate this man's historical recap
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>nukes
>real
what is this guy smoking ?
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>yeah uh if you don't behave and follow international law skydaddy will throw down a lightning bolt and irradiate your land
utter nonsense
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https://youtu.be/50WC8sFvE-Y

I wish you could cusotomise churches like this in eu5
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sheepfuckers go to church? woah...
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sheepfuckers would rather fuck men in the ass instead of sheep? woah...
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which memegame 3 is the memest
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halo 3
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there is only one memegame 3 and that starts in 1836
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can you imagine "liqqy" 3 is making a whole russia dlc and theyre STILL not adding the meme l river after 4 years
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is it really that important? it's just a -1 crossing penalty
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aren't the nation dlc really bad
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why would they add the memel river in the russian dlc when the memel river is in poland?
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>crusader kucks 3
great-looking and fun map-painter in which i can experience the cycle of union and collapse within nations, rise and fall of rulers, while ignoring the bullshit events in which i stopped caring about after the first 3 runs anyways
>farts of iron 3
great-looking map, ww2 simulator with order of battles and drawing fun meme arrows, partake in one of the best mechanized wars in the world, comes with a dank tech system
>shittoria 3
never played it, but from what i hear, it fails to even portray the first world war, whereas memegame 2 succeeds in doing at least that??? and it's a cookie clicker? greeaaaat...
absolutely hideous map, looks like eu5 if eu5's map was extra bright and lacked 98% of the fine details that it currently has, which translates to being something vibrantly designed for 8 year-olds
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oh and i forgot to include that you can't even control your military, which is an epical failure of a detail
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ruBia used to border memel pruBia bäck inn de oldn dähs
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nice day for a run
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...if you're gay
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*assimilates to greek*
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*converts to atheist*
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*produces tanks*
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neu
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