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No, Vic 3 is not good yet. In fact it never will be. Neither will EU5.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

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Previous thread: >>2496382
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Does anybody else find Vic 2 to be a comfy game? I always play it when I'm depressed
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>On this day in histo- shan't be using this shit thread
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why not? it's tradition to include this day in history
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yeah liq 2 is great because you can play a game in 1 or 2 sittings instead of games like ck2 or eu4 where you have to devote quite a bit of time to a full playthrough
also it's more responsive in its button presses and army commands than eu4 and later games i find. whenever i play eu4 there's a noticeable split second delay between me clicking with a selected army and the windows don't pop up instantly like in liq2
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yeah but you won't
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wat
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ah yes, the ephemeral experience of cruising through a memegame2 campaign where you do quite literally nothing but watch numbers slowly crawl toward a certain desired point while adjusting levers in between and selecting the same option from a binary choice of events as if you're a laboratory ape sitting on a stool all noon, waiting for its next treat.

meanwhile, to actually do anything at all in this game requires consulting the appropriate window that's so wonderful it takes the entire screen of the game, closing it, and do the same thing all over again if you want to retrieve a related information from somewhere else because who needs a tooltip when you can just go back and forth 4 separate game windows and the official wiki and paradox plaza to get the exact inquiry that will decide your simplest of economic decision. got an event while you're on one of the game windows? want to tell if your lego deathstack has a general or not? want to sort the generals based on its respective capabilities? want to ferry your army with one simple click? well there's an old saying of "play memegame2 get memed on" for a reason
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why does this guy hate liqqy so much he has to lie about it?
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vgh
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thank you op for filtering some of the worst retards this thread has to offer
except that i know he'll keep posting in this thread as usual regardless, because he has literally nothing else
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me when i blob
me when I start a new game (I'm not used to this country and not a blog yet)
https://youtu.be/0Dk9HCJK7n4
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look at this shit, 3 of my trade nodes are the highest value in the world, ahead of sevilla and la manche
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i should play factorio
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js9aZSQlSQ4
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No, Vic 3 is not good yet. In fact it never will be. Neither will EU5, nor CK3
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it has been good for years now
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avocado toast eating hipster above
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i remember getting really pissed back in like 2018 when holy fury released and you could do shit like in 2507098 effortlessly in 30 ingame years
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you can literally regrow your dick and testicles, if you believe in Satan in CK2
satanic cringe game
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thats why i flicked the no paranormal content switch
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yeah, but before they introduced these game rules, you were just able to do that with no option to turn it off
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>noregrs
/gsg/ hivemind
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ballz to teh wallz ^____^ YOLO
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>>2506999
¡three same numbers!
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ugh
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presented without context
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>>2478116
see >>2507211
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poor little karakalpaks, they were born to roam the steppes yet the villainous poles are forcing them into sweatshops
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I will never forgive evil grandi scum for not adding them as a culture


having said that, they are a culture in eu5, so by extension I must bow down to johan. took them like 20 years but they managed to introduce a culture system that isn't shit and can handle small cultures well
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>russia but slightly more to the west
why not conquer persia too while you're at it, it has sweet sweet trade you know
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How much of that land is legally Poland and how much Lithuania
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that's like saying prussia is poland but slightly more west
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no its like saying ottomans is greece but slightly more east
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no, because poles were not the backbone of prussian bureaucracy
that'd be more like claiming poland-lithuania was actually lithuania because the king was lithuanian
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prussia is white poland isn't
ottomans are white greece isn't
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if poland isn't white then how come silesia was the most industrialized part of prussia, huh???
how come catholic poles mogged the protestant german work ethic?
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>>2507288
>prussia is white
Yes.
>poland isn't
No.
>ottomans are white
No.
>greece isn’t
No.
25% on your test, earning an “F”. Please see me after class.
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Guys is a little over a month pole5fag (remember???) Will be back
My discord kitten told me
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>my discord kitten told me
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there's something so incredivly erotic about that image
I cannot put it into words, it's just overwhelming beautiful and arousing
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does anyone here keep track of the steamgruppen and their antics?
I think it'd be funny if you sent that image to treed, maybe see what happens, maybe post a followup here... just a thought
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only the finest simpsons porn catches the eye of the steamgruppen kiddo
get that stickman shit outta here
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>sipsons porn
t'was eons ago it seems...
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looks like we got ourselves a poleo-greek in here
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grecopolis
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5
yeah always thought curtis was a sexy baest
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I know this place has a lot of anti-trannies so this should be a good spot on getting alternative perspectives.
I don't like being a man. I think of being a man in the same way I think of being a nigger. People instinctually see you as a threat, assume ill intentions, are quick to assign you to manual labour, think you'll respond to violence better than you will to words, think you should be confined to your own kind as a precaution against violence against your betters ect.
Some people will say this is cultural, others will say it's based on biology, but almost nobody disagrees that that's how society treats you.
1/2
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2/2
In the same way if I was born black, I would wish I were white, I wish I was born a woman. Life would be a lot easier for a non-violent meek autistic person like me if people didn't assume I'm up to no good every time I try to do anything.
If I was in this scenario and I was presented with a button that, when pressed, turns me white, I would press it in a heartbeat. Just like IRL I would in a heartbeat press a button that makes me into a woman.
But likewise, you wouldn't say in that case that I'm in some way biologically or neurologically or even psychologically predisposed to being white. You can see that it's about me filling that role better and about feeling more comfortable due to the social benefits (or lack of drawbacks), but you wouldn't say I was somehow "meant" to be white but put in the wrong body?
That's how I feel about being a woman more or less, I'm torn.
I'd like to have a womanly body, but that's mostly to a) be perceived as a woman for social standing and b) to be seen as less threatening and imposing. NOT because I feel as though my brain would somehow feel more comfortable in that body or because I feel some kind of disconnect, i don't even know what that would be like.
I also don't have any strong feelings about what genitals I would prefer in the abstract, though vaginas seem more fun overall it's far from a priority. My only serious concern here would again be social standing.
I do think that being a woman would carry biological benefits that'd make me happier, but they're not the ones trannies ever bring up, it's things like longer lifespan and a lower libido. My primary reasons for consternation are the way society treats me and the way they lay down their basic assumptions, if it somehow worked the other way around, I think I would be perfectly happy as a man, even if my body worked the exact same way.

All this to say: would you say I'm trans?
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didn't read
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amazing how everyone here coordinated their posts precisely to dodge >>>>>2507332
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in what delusional world are you living in where you would ever think of assigning any kind of work to a nigger
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^ what did he mean by this?
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meant to say >>>>>>>>>>2507333
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>in what delusional world are you living in where you would ever think of assigning any kind of work to a nigger
the reason they're on every continent now is exactly because they were being imported for manual labour retard
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why didn't they import poles instead?
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yeah and they found out they don't work if they aren't being whipped 24/7 and even when they're constantly being monitored they do shit work
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because they couldn't get away with not paying them
there was a time where landowners could get away with it and they absolutely did import poles for this very reason
this is why slav is so close to slave, they used to mean the same thing
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>and they found out
they found this out but kept importing them for like 200+ years? were they retarded?
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real answer; you're nonbinary
most normies don't know what that entails and don't care to know so your problems remain intact with or without this knowledge
your best bet is joining a cult
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if your main concern is being perceived as violent when you aren't, your actual best irl bet would be to join a group like the amish that both professes extreme pacifism, is known to do so by the general public and can be clearly identified by attire.
the problem is that the only group i can think of that does that are uh, the amish
I don't think they even take in converts willy nilly
in ancient Rome this would he most christians but after constantine made it fashinable, christians abandoned like 80% of what they were about (generous numbers) and that included objections to being in the military.
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>>2507344
>this is why slav is so close to slave, they used to mean the same thing
“Slave” comes from Slav due to the volume of the Muslim slave trade.
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if you want to be a woman just transition, there are many mapgamers like you these days.
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they also found out that a salad is a shit vegetable with no nutrition but people still eat it because it's better than nothing
like mate have some self-respect even while shitposting
when you need something done is your first though really i want some braindead nigger with no skills so i get to redo it in 3 months
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^thanenigger post
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>if you want to be a woman just transition,
If it didnt cost like 30k i would
I can't really justify a supertifial treatment that *might* help when I know that money can instead go to deworm like 10 kids and definitely give them a way better shot in life
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*i would consider it
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why the fuck are you niggers replying to a trollpost in earnest????
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why would you care about kids with worms in anrica, your money will just buy guns for warlords
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what makes u think that's a troll post
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>why would you care about kids with worms in anrica
why wouldn't i?
>your money will just buy guns for warlords
source? seems like an excuse for inaction to me
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because this is a grandi strategy general yet that guy made a two parter about gender precisely to troll you and derail discussion
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>christcuck tranny
name a more iconic combo
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the more control you have on outcomes the better the option, you have control on your own body and nobody to blame, helping others relies on others wanting to get better
your call
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idk man (male), knowing one's money is going directly into wardlords' pockets sounds like a good enough reason for inaction.
but the truth is, i don't need an excuse; i am content with their suffering.
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>>2507277
this much
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also lmfao at the idea that 30k would only buy 10 doses of deworming treatment
it's validating (an emotion you will never experience) to know that your retarded delusions extend into ever corner of your existence.
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eastern poland...
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>the more control you have on outcomes the better the option
getting "good" FFS involves a lot of luck, making educated guesses on who is a good surgeon and it's ultimately at the discretion of the person with the scalpel and blind luck
deworming is something a nurse can do and it doesn't take a lot to make everyone involved do what's needed, the kid obviously wants to get better
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>knowing one's money is going directly into wardlords' pockets sounds like a good enough reason for inaction.
I asked for a source, you don't actually KNOW that, you're just assuming (mounting a convenient excuse)
>also lmfao at the idea that 30k would only buy 10 doses of deworming treatment
I didn't specify a currency retard
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stupid retard can't help himself but bite bait
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i come back in here and look after two hours and holy shit how the fuck did you guys get trolled by that tranny post hahhahahahahaaaa woooowwww you are embarrassing
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it's just juan guy
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why the FUCK are hungarians and romanians in the same culture group?
what was johan smoking?
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also how come greeks and turks arent in the same culture group??
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same reason turks and turkmens aren't in the same culture group
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>uh uh its trolling guys it's trolling trust me guys it's a trolling post please please PLEASE I'm BEGGING you ignore those posts they're TROLLING omg PLEASE DONT READ
why are you so insistent on that post being "trolling"? What's your reasoning?
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hungarians and romanians are like poles and muscovites
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hmmm, today i will outline why obvious bait is obvious bait and engage with the bait in the process. what could go wrong?
t. clueless
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>same reason turks and turkmens aren't in the same culture group
In eu5 they are because they finally expanded on the whole retarded "culture group" system by giving cultures several traits
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bro just become a girl and sit on my lap as we play tno
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but poles and muscovites are in separate culture groups and might as well be as different as chuckchi and bantu
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The only actual bait are all the posts encouraging anon to transition instead of even considering alternatives
anonymous poster is being very reasonable IMO and it's throwing the chuds for a loop
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*transitions to brazilian*
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>but poles and muscovites are in separate culture groups and might as well be as different as chuckchi and bantu
in memegame2
in eu5 they're both slavic but share no other trait, making them more akin than poles and ashanti but not by much
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nobody remembers that bulgaria exists
even macedonia has more presence
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imagine being so mindbroken about liqqy you insert it into conversations about eu4 culture groups
go on, tell us how brazilians are white
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don't deadname northern macedonia!!! you piece of shit!!!
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fyrom
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they're the heirs of bavaria they dress in silly costumes and dance pure german spiritus
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aleksander fyromski
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timmies would rather we talk about trannies some more
theyre not ready for the kara boga discussion
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what imaginary number is that referring to this time?
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which of those countries has the cutest girls (male)
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>getting "good" FFS involves a lot of luck, making educated guesses on who is a good surgeon and it's ultimately at the discretion of the person with the scalpel and blind luck
>deworming is something a nurse can do and it doesn't take a lot to make everyone involved do what's needed, the kid obviously wants to get better
I like how everyone replying to this post knew what "FFS" meant
this general must be like 50 percent trans by this point
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>cavarly cheaper than infantry
epic
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as opposed to you who didnt know yeah?
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I only know what that means because I have a trans friend
:)
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That feel when ive seen this painting many times irl
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uh yeah i would definitely want to go on a tourism and see the sights of *checks notes* uh balderus and uh polen and not get a hair transplant cheap hookers and a sea in green byzantium i'm dying to see the empty rocky islands of ithaca, hellas
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lot of troll posts tonight
the guy even resorts to replying to himself as to seem there's multiple people doing it
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>but poles and muscovites are in separate culture groups
wrong, they are both considered slavs
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how did this poster manage to reply so fast
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i want to spend my yurobucks in hungary and eat three meals of red pepper a day
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wrong, poles are west slavs and moscovites are east slavs
russians can unite all slavs into 1 culture group via a mission, but they're seprate in 1444
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I miss aarnon
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why? hpm is a bad mod
we don't need any more updates
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Aaarnog trooned out
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>umm acktthhually *gay lisp*
>west slavs
>east slavs
>slavs
they're both slavs, like i said
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why does this single guy try to push trannyism onto /gsg/? why do we always seem to attract dedicated retards? is the rest of 4channel also like this?
maybe grandi was right after all...
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holy construction worker thighs what the fuck happened to his beer gut
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they're separate culture groups that don't accept each other doe. might as well be as dissimilar as ainu and finnish
ur wrong i'm right it's over you lost
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well that settles it
he's right and you're wrong
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you probably forgot about that day that some retard in here posted a /gsg/ poll in the /lgbt/ board and that was their portal to potentially immigrate a bunch of the freaks in there to over here
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retard how would u might would through these wosnthea what huh?
retard how would you migrate through a strawpoll? it's probably the doing of that guy who was shilling his discord like a month back
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no, none of them migrated. they didn't know what the poll was about, judging by the chat posts
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that was a steamgroup shitposter and they have no trannies in there
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why is the first line of your post typed like a retard
because of that, you deserve an explanation
have a nice day, gibberish-spewing thanefaggot
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okay what poll are you talking about?
I'm curious what you mean

it's common knowledge that this general has a lot of lgbt (mostly g and t) people
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it's not common knowledge, because nothing could be further from the truth, and anyone claiming so has an agenda to push
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you don't* deserve an explanation
heheh
>okay what poll are you talking about?
you don't remember? i do
don't worry about it though, it makes no difference
the damage has been done
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most victoria 2 youtubers are trannies idk why you pretend as though this is in some way shocking
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it's common knowledge that your dad fucks platypuses
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tfw i will never princess carry my gsgf (male)
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it's spelled platypi
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That's only because anon won't transition cuz we didn't encourage her enough:(
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it's too gay in here
if i take a nap and come back later, hopefully the topic will be better
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>most victoria 2 youtubers are trannies
victroonia 2 doesn't speak for all of gsg, it's the exception that proves the rule
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why are you replying to his post as if it were true? just because that guy spams a singular vic2 youtuber who can't even play vic2 doesn't mean victoria 2 is somehow a tranny game
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niggers
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tongue my anus
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evens — play georgia and show those quitting impostors how it's done
odds — make myself a drink
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oldskool meme O__O
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>just because that guy spams a singular vic2 youtuber
lol
this isn't even bait, you're just high on copium
victoria 2 is completely dominated by trannies by this point, on YouTube and otherwise
you say there's 1 youtuber being spammed, you mean this one?
https://youtu.be/dgdTBphcjMA
or this one
https://youtu.be/NDefsxTTO0M
Or any of the others?

please look at this and reconsider your statement: discord.gg/victoria2
don't even look in the chat just look at the profile picture or whatever you call that image for the server
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https://voca.ro/1bhdSujAEkth
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https://youtu.be/Fh03GrF8viM
this chat severely needs Jesus
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is this part of your voice training?
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so victoria 2 is a tranny game because you posted 2 video links? or maybe it's a tranny game because you posted an expired invite to a server that may or may not exist?
see everyone? this is what they do, they claim a completely normal hobby is for trannies now and that everyone who engages with it is a tranny. it's a means of reproduction
of course this guy i'm replying to is not a tranny he's just trolling
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all within a short span of time:
>trannyposting
>christianitybaiting
>polishposting
hmmm, i'm noticing a pattern... as if 1 guy is doing them all...
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tha link worked 10 mintues ago
they must've taken it down due tot he gsg raid
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look we get it sherlock holmes it's one guy it doesn't take 6 million iq to figure it out now stop feeding the troll
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i'm more a frank drebin kinda guy
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I'm willing to assume it's probably 1 being but how do we know its one person?
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it's 1 girl actually
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because the glory days of /gsg/ are long past. we're too irrelevant and small to be raided
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mr advertiser GET DOWN!!!!
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Cuckchan is the china of the internet. Ripe for the taking.
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why are you using the party vernacular?
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it's ok that's a male pussy and manboobs
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66 whole posts while i was off eating eggs god damn
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go back, you have to eat all the eggs
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i did dough i had 6 whole eggs
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that's a small amount of eggs for an average sized human i'd say
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i happened to consume other things too such as cheese and dough and sausages
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victrannia 2...
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americans are spiritually homosexual
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Any good Al generated mods yet?
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never
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ask grok
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who is grok
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ok, georgia on hard, lets do it
me, i won't pussy out
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tranny janny is going to have a field day today
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shes not gonna get banned for georgia posting
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nobody gets banned for posting georgia
nor vermont for that matter
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I wanted to make gsg with a demand/supply system for good.
In concept, it would have been easy, but in practice it is a nightmare. Like determining the buyer is just torture. Like you could either have a model where limited supply is split among buyers, or a model where the richest province takes priority.
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is this johan posting after he spent all his patreon bux
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make the the buyer weighted random
just because the country/province is a shithole doesn't mean it can't spawn a shrewd businessman that will secure the supply of a good he needs for his sweatshop
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won't work, too many complications
I've considered the caravan model, but it might be retarded.
The concept is that big cities will spawn a caravan agents.
>caravan agents begin with their gold
>move blindly from province to province, buying surplus of good
>and selling when it's in demand
The problem is that it would be arbitrary, and I'm not sure how many agents I would need for a stable system
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all work and no play makes thomas a dull boy
go play caravaneer and report back once that inspires you
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your first two models are trash because supply would be available to any buyers in your country regardless of distance or time hence you're having a problem with it
the caravan/tradeship is the right way to go about. in my gsg, richer pops will identify the trade opportunities and conduct their own expedition, supply will have to travel in order for it to be acquired and redistributed, and as an added bonus it'll make dynamic prices simulated and not a guesswork multiplier gymnastic
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europe is a nothingburger and the only one colonizing africa is a greco-norse ethiopia
who should i play as in a new imperator mega campaign, im thinking etruscans
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Claude could probably unironically come up with a pretty good system
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ugh, georgia will rise again, fuck turks
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>any buyers in your country regardless of distance or time hence you're having a problem with it
isn't that the eu5 model? any province within a certain market can buy from it
>the caravan/tradeship
Think so too, and you can add cool stuff to it like bandits extorting illegal tolls out of the caravans, limiting their budget. Hence, a region with a high crime rate would have a limited supply

>Claude could probably unironically come up with a pretty good system
I asked it and it just said copy vic3 system
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who the hell is claude?
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georgia will grow larger
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uhhhh is this even worth it?
i need high legitimacy otherwise the disaster will fire
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wtf why did this capital fort fall instantly?
did they mothball it at war????



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