Vicky 2 is my favorite paraslop game and I haven't touched Vicky 3 since the leaked alpha years ago, I thought that the game was foundationally flawed and the UI alone was unappealing to me. A lot of things in the game seem immersion breaking and reddit to me, I really don't like the character system, and I remember reading that physical goods don't actually exist?Now it's been some years, I remember anons calling it a cookie clicker simulator. How is it now though? Is it worth learning the game's systems and playing it? I'm asking because my time is limited and since i'm old now I dont like learning how to play new bideo gaymes.
>>2518468It's a better economic and political simulator than Vic2. However, currently lacks the long list of flavour events typical of mods like GFM/HPM
>>2518468Vic 3 still has a god awful war system as well as a micromanging hellscape of a building system that ruins whatever larp you want to do, so its still a waste of time to learn
Why yes anon!Victoria 3 is finally good! It has trans representation! And I'm having a blast!
>>2518702yikes
>>2518702Deserved for playing as communist America
>>2518546>currentlyIt's been 6 years. If mods/vanilla haven't added flavor by now they never will.
>>2518546>better economic simulator Ah yes, instead of the boring old "global market" where farming prestige and forming spheres is directly financially impactful there's the French market, which is completely insulated from the world unless they sign a pact to access the American market.
>>2518815They changed that over a year ago, now goods can be sold to the entire world (sans countries with Isolationism) via a trade building, which profits from the difference between local prices and global prices modified by Trade Advantage.Instead of Victoria 2's tedious influence minigame, now Trade Advantage is generated by your Interests in the area (generated by ships, treaties, treaty ports, subjects, conquered territory, etc), your Laws, Treaties, and certain other things. All of this gives you significant influence over the acquisition and utilization of goods, but without having to constantly hover over a country to keep kicking out the other guy's diplomats.
>>2518468It's really good, the best economic sim that I know of on the market, and their UI is probably the best Paradox game currently (which isn't a terribly high bar). It's pretty easy these days to see almost all of the information you care about (except current Turmoil levels, for some reason... Though that's only a problem in particularly large countries). Characters have been kind of nerfed, too - now Movement Influence is the big determiner of who takes leadership of an Influence Group so you don't have crazy lurches in policy out of nowhere. You can safely go the entire game without having to actually click on a character.With all of that said, it's still a cookie clicker simulator at its core - you see what you're missing, and you build it so that you can use it to build more things. There's plenty of foreign affairs that you CAN involve yourself in, and likely want to if you wish to have any hope of getting rubber, oil, or copper - but these are all distinctly secondary stages to building up your industries to make the line go up.The popular Morgenrote mod changes this up a bit, though, by adding a fuckton of historical science, music, and sports to the game to draw your attention elsewhere - things like competing in paleontology, archeology, and building the perfect zoo collection. It'll drown you in all sorts of side quests.
>>2518468It’s leagues better than Victoria 2. Don’t listen to uncs who say otherwise. The ONLY thing that Vicky 2 does better at this point is warfare and diplomacy.
>>2518918>The ONLY thing that Vicky 2 does better at this point is warfare and diplomacy.So the two most important parts of a gsg, grim
>>2518468They just released a DLC that is 100% about LARPing as a commie.What the fuck do you think, anon.
>>2518918I honestly don't think it does diplomacy better these days either. I enjoyed the Crisis system in V2 in hope that 3 can adopt something similar in the future... But foreign investment and "peaceful" power bloc expansion both feel much better and more relevant in Victoria 3.Treaty management feels a lot better too - as Qing, paying off all the other Great Powers to protect me against Britain felt amazing, and like the world coming together to change history. Of course, they (understandably) killed that with the recent changes to interest growth and clause requirements... But that kind of thing just wasn't possible in the first place in 2.
>>2518926>They just released a DLC that is 100% about LARPing as a commie.thinking it's based
>>2518468Victoria 3 will be obsolete soon.
>>2519030Let me guess OpenVic but with Claude?
>>2519055Dll patches into the base game, there is currently a project to reverse engineer as well thoughhttps://github.com/maxioten/Victoria2-Reverse-Engineering
>>2519057Open sourced Vic2 might make for the best strategy ever with time.
>>2518965That's because you are a tard.
>>2519228>>2518926>more options and flavor BAD!
>>2519030Correct.
>>2519288>victoria 2 >with modern sovlless launcherthe fact they thought this was a good idea tells me all i need to know about the projectthey probably removed the little video you have to skip at start as well
>>2519289You can just choose to not install it 'lil bro
>>2519290>missing the pointthe whole point of liqqy is it rejects all the modernist follies of nu-paradox, if the "developers" (vibe coders) of this don't realize this then there's no hope for themwhen can we expect them to port the troon events and pollution mechanic from V3?
>>2519293I just want frontlines and unit templates sis
>>2519294I'd take a thousand years of rebuilding a single brigade from every stack after a rebellion over trying to make my beautiful perfect liqtoria more like the DOGSHIT we have to eat today.
>>2519297This is a seperate repository from the reverse engineering one linked previously Just read the github herehttps://github.com/artyom-kuznetsov/V2DLL_Victoria-2-Extension/tree/mainI'm trans btw
>>2519302Why won't you just let me whine about pointless unrelated crap and be a doomer in peace? Must you ruin everything with your founded optimism?
>>2519304You vill play another 1k hours of vicky 2 and you vill enjoy it This is just the beginning, everything i linked here released last october. Prepare your anus.
>>2518468wiz has to be johan's sex slave
>>2519288Shit launcher but I can tolerate if it changes less stuff than M2EX. Same exact visuals is a must too.
>>2518702how to get 'give her a command' option? I didn't have it when I was playing as Russia
>>2519372Maybe you needed feminism law?
>>2518468for all its flaws its paraslops best game
>>2519400That's be EU5. If tinto were to turn the retard mode back off, eu5 may very well become a better victoria game than the actual victoria
>>2518702There's nothing trans about that event though?There were (very rare) cases of women impersonating men in armies and navies, you are basically saying Mary Reed, Ann Bonny and all those Soviet WW2 women were trannies
>>2519372Apparently the bottom two require feminism and multiculturalism respectively.The hover over text for giving her a command has red warning text and if chosen results in no outcome, as she refuses to serve as a woman, because she's a man now! Ironically the alleged historical reference and the title of the event don't make sense because she is given a male avatar with a beard, so could be considered trans erasure, in a sense.>>2519451That's also the other irony, anon. >>2517911>I don't recall if there's anything referring to women serving in the game. Kind of funny that even a Mulan scenario is now owned by the special people.It would be woke if it was an event about normalising women secretly serving historically, however they went for the double woke of it being a gender identity, effectively erasing women, as transgenderism often transgresses, but this time with a transman instead of a transwoman. If I pick it apart so you understand this is about postmodern gender, not historical sexism:>I don't want to be - I mean this isn't right, I don't, I'm not..." The soldier stuttered, fumbling for WORDS THAT DIDN'T EXIST.>Offer her a command [she says she's not a woman]>Offer him a command [she accepts and generates a male avatar with a male name]so yes, anon>you are basically saying Mary Reed, Ann Bonny and all those Soviet WW2 women were tranniesthey were all trans, because the transwomen playing and making this game need them to be, else their identity, and life as the 59%, is forfeit.
>>2519628Ahhh I see. Imagine being so woke you do a lap and arrive back at the "women don't belong in an army" lmao. I'll admit this did sour me on the game significantly, I haven't seen this event myself but now I'll know to mod it out in advance
>>2519630>Imagine being so woke you do a lap and arrive back at the "women don't belong in an army" lmao.Yep!
>>2518702Someone needs to mod in the option to rape her back into woman. Show her where her place is.
>>2519628>Apparently the bottom two require feminism and multiculturalism respectively.What has multiculturalism got to do with gender politics?
>>2519664Multiculturalism is the fantasy anti-chud law where the state abolishes racism. Naturally this removes all forms of discrimination.
>>2519664Only longhoused moids can pass such reforms and feminism is the next step of the longhouse
>>2519731You're mocking them a bit, but it's true; multiculturalism as represented in Vicky isn't really something that existed in the era (cultural exclusion is about where the liberal position would be for most of the world), which is also why nobody in-game really supports it. It's only really included because it's something a notable portions of players would want, and since those players also want options like in the event, it might as well fold other anti-discrimination stances in as a catch-all.
vic 3 combat > vic 2
>>2519664I went to check rather than relying on reddit. It's not law related.from>Victoria3/game/events/commander_events.txt># The Beardless Soldierand>Victoria3/game/localization/english/events_l_english.yml>commander_events.7Event appears to require an interest group FOR and AGAINST legal guardianship(?), and might only fire for player nations?>option commander_events.7.a>"Jail this imposter.", default optionApplies a modifiers to two IGs for/against legal guardianship, one gets the modifier inverted.>option commander_events.7.b>"Send the soldier back to [home_state] with a pension."AI told to take this choice.Applies the same(?) modifier to opposing IGs? Is that a bug?>option commander_events.7.c>"Offer her a command.">"#warning The soldier seems surprisingly uncomfortable being hailed as a woman in uniform.#!"Requires Feminism researched.>random result, 50/50:>"The soldier from [home_state] has disappeared without a trace, clearly rejecting the offer of openly serving as a woman in the [country] military.">"[Character] has accepted the offer of becoming a commander in the [country] military, albeit with inexplicable reluctance."Generates a female general with ruler's interest group and permanent modifier "Uncomfortable_Presentation" (I don't know if this is just a cosmetic modifier).Applies two different modifiers to an IG that believes in women's suffrage and an IG that believes in legal guardianship.>commander_events.7.dd>"Offer him a command."(I assume there's a reason to spell a modifier monstruous and this option .dd for a reason and it's not a developer literacy problem)Requires Psychoanalysis researched.Guaranteed generation of a male general with ruler's interest group, the Brave trait, and two random traits (presumably these can be bad), "beardless_hero" and "happy_general".>"[Character] has eagerly accepted the offer of becoming a commander in the [country] military."
>>2519949>Guaranteed generation of a male general with ruler's interest group, the Brave trait, and two random traits (presumably these can be bad)Wouldn't be very heckin' wholesome if she spawned with grifter and psychological affliction.
>>2519949I sincerely hope whoever made this event will get to be a beardless hero in the upcoming ww3, willingly or not
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>>2519451"all those Soviee WW2 women" were literally propaganda
>>2519451If any other dev than pdx did this, nobody would complain. Everyone knows what this is which is why it's annoying. It's not a cute nod to anything, it's simply trannies being trannies.
>>2520172I still remember the reddit post going around asking people what IG they would be irl and most of them unironically said either intelligentsia or TU; anyone who said anything related to the PB were downdooted into the eighth circle of hell.I hate the vic3 community so much fucking more than almost any other online community. They're the most obnoxiously annoying retards i've had the displeasure of interacting with, the fnaf, deltarune/undertale and so on may all be annoying fags, but they're kids so i can't really blame them; the vic3 community on the other hand are all just fucking awful. Says a lot i think that they're mostly segregated to vic3, not really even interacting with any of the other games' communities. They're the equivalent of the 14 year old wehraboo edge lord, but instead of being a gay 14 year old, they're either 24 or 34 and working the most PB job imaginable.
>>2518918>The ONLY thing that Vicky 2 does better at this point is warfare and diplomacy.Late-game Vicky 2 warfare is so tremendously tedious that I'll take V3 over it
>EU5 turned out to be worse than Vicky 3How the FUCK did that happen?
>>25210771) No it didn't2) Tinto made the colossal mistake of listening to redditors and jewtubers
