>you will NOT imply that I'm nice or an angel>you will NOT say a harmless joke that was born out of fans love for me
>>104034915She said this to faggots like you who can't stop beating a dead joke after she's repeatedly asked people to stop saying it
>>104034915rape correction
Op is a retarded faggot
>>104034915Not her problem /r/hololive is seemingly permanently stuck in 2020/21. She's not the only one who also had her fair share of lame tropes.
>>104034966Imagine complaining that people are essentially saying you're a kind person. Only a retarded japanese woman would get mad over something like that, it's the exact same thing as flare's autism about calling her cool/coffee elf/drawing her with a bow/etc.
TND
No one told her that 90% of the people there are only clipwatcher kek
>>104035020retard doesnt know how much saying weird shit affects their brand + youtube menhera algorithm
>>104035149So she'd rather people call her a bitch then? Ok, gladly.
imagine if enna or millie said this
>>104034915She's so overwhelm with emotion she want to fuck her audience.
>>104035020she's complaining because people keep repeating the same 5 year old meme and nothing else, not because of the content of the meme itselfit's like if everyone still kept going STAY HOME every time they see mikochi or EEKUM BOKUM when they see korone and that's all they knew
>>104035014It reminds me of that Holo fighting game that crashed and burned years ago. Literally every single reference was years old then and EN fans still haven't updated their references on JP's.
>>104035255Telling fans to go fuck themselves still isn't acceptable behavior for an "idol" especially when you're in front of an EN audience 90% of which are newfags or clipwatchers who don't know about all of the JP girls autistic triggers.
>>104035304Then they were never fans.
>>104035304in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with being invited to perform in a foreign nation and then telling them to fuck off because they chanted in their native language at you
>>104035304she didn't say it in front of the audience and only half jokingly mentioned it to her japanese speaking audience in a zatsu
>>104035304how to out yourself showing you never watched towa
>>104035208its ok when hololive does it
>>104035368i agree i love watching hololive act exactly like nijisanji except it's good because different logo
>>104034915Unfortunately its just the nature of redditors to beat a joke into the ground relentlessly and never let the talent grow past it
>>104035278Half of it is on them, they stopped engaging and pandering to EOPs after 2021 so they stopped watching the JPs so when they do think back on them there IS nothing recent to recall. They go back to 2020 and 2021 because THAT is the last time many of them regularly watched JP members. Maybe if they did a new round of pandering and had meme moments during them, the community jones would change like they desire so much.
>>104035304YOU'RE NOT A FAN YOU'RE A CLIPNIGGER WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THEM YOU DON'T EVEN WATCH NEW CLIPS
>>104035386this but unironically
>>104035346>>104035446You're right this convinced me to watch her, this sort of attitude makes her sound so lovely and not at all like a frigid old hag.
>>104034915>EY IM WARKING ERE! FAKKU YU! SHARAP!
>>104034915why is everyone so retardedwatch her talk about it, she isn't mad, she just wanted to respond with the usual tsukkomi
>>104035021"Dig em up again. Kill em again. And if you're too tired after all that work, just shoot in the goddamn grave."
>>104035255>>104035020Thats' why towa pregnant needs to become the new one
mega yabhttps://x.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1959439976539844857
>>104034915It's actually pretty fair why she doesn't want people to do it.Its tourist bringing up a dead meme. They weren't there when it happened and just heard people do it then people started saying it out of context after she said to stop because she would get mad.But in reality it's just cringe for her to see the tourist call them selves out.after i found that out i gained so much respect for her.
>>104035549pregnant towa baby or bust
>>104035639There was someone in the replies of that post saying that they didn't even know what TMT meant, they just chanted it because everyone else did
What a retarded bitch
>>104035708I'm not rrating, She has said this and if you understand Japanese understand what she is saying in between the lines.But also its worth noting that while this has been an issue in the past, she felt the need to reiterate this when doing an EN concert.I.e En fans are retarded.
>>104035708that person should kill himself
>>104034915Well, maybe create something more popular then. Deep down she just can't accept that all these years pass and she hasn't grown.
>>104034915it's more like "shutup <3" but leave it to you idiots who are autistic as fuck and don't communicate with real people, see >>104035528You pathetic losers have to dig REALLY hard to get a Holo don't you? go back to the "THEY HATE eachother" meme with Nimi and the other ex-holos, see how long that one will last you.
>>104035528If you aren't acting like a schizophrenic autistic nonbinary american bipoc on twitter you are failing at the internet Anon.Now watch me take someone obviously joking extremely seriously and anti them so I can signal to others that I am superior.
>>104035278>Holo fighting game that crashed and burned years agowhat do you mean the game still updates, koyo was added recently
>>104034915JP whore, doesn't she remember who stood by her when she had a male on stream yab? Japs? Nope, it was westerners. Ungrateful bitch.
tranny whore
Bitch
>>104034915Why are you surprised? That's Towa for you. The biggest menhera(she even admit it herself)of Holo. And yes, even bigger than Mike. She had those menhera moment basically every month so other holomems already used to come and comfort her.
These women should get a sense of humor, the whole thing is such a nonissue that anyone sane shouldn't get upset about it
Why do you guys turn every little thing into a huge thing. It's like you're women or something.
>>104035149Yeah i'm sure TMT is gonna devastate her brand and the algorithm somehow
>>104034915>What the actual fuck is her problem?She's Chinese.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmWzCJsn4w
>>104040274we call them sisters for a reason, anon
>>104040274Sis delete this, you're ruining my narrative.
>baiting about the arguably the most kind-hearted vtuberfirst roboco and now thisthis place is becoming the 'farms
>>104040274>you will NOT create a fun vibe at my concert
>>104035528because op is a bored clipnigger who's trying to see if he gets other retarded clipniggers to hate someone they never watched.this is how 99% of anti holoJP threads go, beats me why they don't result in an instant 3 day ban yet.
>>104034915Most forced attempt at drama I've seen in a while. Good thing you're samefagging yourself to death, surely people will fall for it. Retarded niggerfaggot ESL OP, you should do something actually valuable and die in a fire.
>>104040274Seems understandable to me.It really would be like doing a “Subway! Subway!” chant for Kronii.It’s a meme and not really what she wants when she is in idol mode.She even said it’s fine because it’s kaigai niki and she loves her kaigai niki.What’s the problem here?
>>104035255Maybe they should create something more popular then?
>>104042343I don’t even think she cares if it’s typed in chat once in a while. She just doesn’t want it to become a thing in concerts.She’s mostly letting JP fans know for the future.
>>104035014>/r/hololive is seemingly permanently stuck in 2020/21Can't blame them. Those were the best years to be a holo fan, second only to the years before the holocaust.
>Watame is a sheep and Bae is a rat LOLMAOThis will still be funny to Holodrones in 2045
>>104034915Towa maji tenshi
>>104034915i honestly don't get it either. she literally said she hate people calling her TMT cause she said she didn't understand what it meant, kiara then explained that it meant towa maji tenshi, yet she still hates it. Does Towa have brain damage?
>>104042551>Watame is a sheep and Bae is a rat LOLMAOWell... they are? That's their character. A better comparison would be cracking the same "FBK is a cat" jokes in 2025.
>>104042193>chanting "subway!, subway! At the Kronester" Goddamn that's such a good idea, anon.
>>104042621You are right, but what I meant is whenever they see a rat or sheep they will bring up the corresponding Holomem.I completely forgot about Fubuki being a cat ROFLMAO
Why are westoids so obsessed with old memes and jokes?
>>104036244HoloJP mindshare in the Overseas peaked in 2021 and the JP members can't seem to accept that.
Can anyone who still watches Towa tell me if she has any new in-jokes? Genuinely asking.
>>104043072There actually doesn’t need to be a spammable, autistic, reddit-style “joke” at all times.
>>104043123Just say "we've got nothing" next time.
>>104035708Desu this is how chants works, you do it because people around you do it.t. used to go to football games
Japanese still say Towa is an angel so she will forgive you.Japanese fans suggested Pekora to buy Kanata a Gorilla game from Steam.Subaru und Watame embrace their old memes.It's not a westroids or clipwatcher problem.
>>104042972Fubuki 'cat wife'Haachama 'spider cooking'Matsuri 'band aids'Suisei 'is also flat today'Miko 'FAQ Nigger'Pekora 'War Criminal'Marine 'I'm Horny'Mio 'Barfing Wolf'Korone 'DOOG'Rushia 'Death Metal Scream'Noel 'Shotacon Supreme'Flare 'Cool Dark Elf'Kanata 'PPT'Towa 'TMT'Luna 'NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'Watamelon
>>104043123>spammable, autistic, reddit-style “joke”They're called memes you stupid newfag fuck
Including this board, I feel like the EN fans are more detached from JP than ever. EN fags don't care about JP since there are so many alternatives.
>>104043220Say the “Flat” or the “IRS” the “Subway sandwich” meme again anon. The chuubas LOVE it.Especially if you can spam 50 times a stream every single stream for 5 years straight.
>>104043436>memes can't fall out of use
>>104035304>Telling fans>90% of which are newfags or clipwatchersThese statements are contradictory.
>>104043123What the hell do Japs do in chat? "wwww", "kusa", and emoji spam? No attempt to create funny little community jokes through banter with the streamer?
>>104043496Some are some aren’t.Some memes have a very long shelf life. Others last a week before getting old.However, autistics ledditors overspamming even the best memes ruins it. And since that’s like 70% of the audience, it happens almost every time.
>>104043629true dat
>>104043571>oversensitive EOP niggerMost of these memes are just EOPs appropriating Japanese ones and they are mocked for it as well.https://x.com/MxwksoEuf/status/1958813411057574079
What narrative? Just like what she did to these unicorns, she enjoyed teasing Rpr. When they called her out, she got away with it.>You lot said people aren’t allowed to stop others from having fun…They chanted the jokes she made. People were allowed to have fun, so why’s she bitching and moaning? Her unprofessional conduct sparked outrage on live, then she ran to Twitter, a toxic place, and only calmed it afterward. Stop creating shit in the first place.
>>104043839>JPs joke policingSo yes? No new Suisei memes? Just the same old "pettan psycho" shit from years ago?
>>104035020>dance, monkey! I sent you $5 that means you're my slave!
>>104043208Piss Poor Tenshi!
Woman moment
>>104035278HoloCure also falls guilty of the same problem in my perspective. EOPs can't be bothered to do their reps which ends up with them lagging light-years behind the JP fanbase for stuff like this.
>Entitled bitch thinks she is hot stuff.Her view count is low, she is a B tier holomem.
>>104035278It crashed and burned because they added da boiz.
>>104034915lol lmao
>>104045165Ah yes. This is something a true hololive fan would say
>>104042484It’s fine if someone wants to recycle their spammed 2020 memes on their shitty discord or in leddit.But when you try to spam it in the chat or make a video game out of it in 2025, everyone including the talents are going to look at you like the socially inept autist you are.
She’s obviously going through some shit but telling her fans “fuck you” when they’re telling a harmless joke is just mean. It’s one thing if they’re saying something out of malice but u can’t imagine they meant any harm right?
>>104042484It's one thing to fondly recall and another to actually live like it's the past and constant suffer cognitive dissonance
>>104034915Pretend i dont understand what this is about and explain
Actual autists not being able to recognize a facetious statement will never not be funny
so no memes or inside fan jokes now, just old signature clips catchphrases that we use to know them for as a reminder that their best times are now gone.
>>104034915JP niki do this too actually. It’s pretty funny. They constantly reference Kronii’s love for udon and call her udon onee-san and stuff like that. It’s just good fun.
>>104045566Ungrateful whore
sperg thread
Maybe she should get her career out of the rut it’s been stuck in for years if she wants fans to respond to her with new content.
>>104042621watame and the other talents make jokes amongst themselves about watame being a sheep and eating her frequently all the time. it's literally part of her setting, if u want fleshies without settings go watch fleshies.
>>104049367Reading comprehension reps please
>>104043072I just watch a lot of clips but I don't know of any memes for towa outside of tmt
>>104049394right you were already replying to someone being stupid. i'm fuckin tired lmao
>>104044542lots of the talents have failed to create new memes for themselves. just coasting with things they already had come up with / experienced. this isn't the audiences fault.
>>104043208Rushia " cutting board"Pekora "Almond Almond"Aqua "44.5, Onion"Mel "banpire"Kanata "gorilla"polka "POLMAO"sad times we live in.
>>104044542What new memes have the JP bros come up with?>lagging light-years behind the JP fanbase for stuff like thisAlso this goes both ways. JPs don't keep up with OUR memes for the ENs.
This entire thread is retarded. I’ve see Towa yell at her own JP chat over TMT years ago. It’s like when people call Fubuki “cat” or used to spam “bottom left” at Kiara.You people are making her out to be a Flare level schizo. Even Mococo’s name sperging was way worse than this, an I’m a fucking Ruffian saying that.
>>104044542Hardly a problem when the girls of all branches love the game and play along with the memes.
>>104049669Hard to top Mococo's name sperging since she overreacted enough early on that it became a stillbirthed meme everywhere else but on /vt/.
>>104049788It almost turned me off of their channel completely. I agreed with her not wanting to be called 10,283 different names, but the nonstop nagging about it really ruined the mood for a while.
>>104049858I thought it made it funnier
>>104049527>>104049616Marine's dancing animation for I'm your Treasure box went viral and spiraled in some memes.Azki's renaissance and her obsession (and precision) with Geoguessr became something of a meme back then.Besides the Monday trope, Kanade charging a punch in one of the regloss 3D streams became a short lived meme with various edits made after that frame.Suisei throwing the crystal slipper towards the director in the Bibidiba MV got quite a following and quickly spread out like wildfire in the JP scene along with the song's popularity.And before you mention it, yes, these indeed happened somewhere around the last year or 2, but given we're discussing about how EOPs only reminisce the ones that occurred 5-4 years ago, these might as well qualify as new/fresh.I can also vaguely recall FBK and Korosan coming up with some stuff that became a meme too over the last few years but didn't get the kick as the aforementioned.
>>104049947Nobody wants to show up to a lecturing every other stream. By the third meltdown I was pretty close to never going back.Like after the 2nd warning just start banning people, stop ruining the mood for everyone else.
>>104049973i mean kanade has come up with several but she hasn't even existed long enough for her to have old memes. azki yeah she's had crazy success but it also feels like she's a newer talent even as gen 0 since she came to hololive like what 3 years ago? but yeah geoguessr / now the sadism arc. she's cool she'll really just play the role and tries her hardest.
>>104049973>Azki's renaissance and her obsession (and precision) with Geoguessr became something of a meme back thenThe west was aware of this. It sort of became the one thing Azki was known for other than being that one vsinger.>Kanade charging a punch in one of the regloss 3D streams became a short lived meme with various edits made after that frameThis too was well known among EOPs.The other two which are just clips from MVs I wasn't aware went viral enough to count as memes so good to know I guess.
>>104035020>more faggotry noises
>>104035020Imagine having to hear the same fucking joke day in, day out, from 10,000 different faggots who think they're being original and funny. Swear to god the sooner the internet dies the better so I don't have to deal with legitimately mentally handicapped retards like you have to go outside.
>>104050257hopefully within 2 days anon.. because u know what 2 days is?? getsuyoubi!!!
entertaining annoying, brain dead faggots is their job
>>104034915probably shocked at how tourist EN community is
>>104050002I do, its funny when a hologirl gets one guyed.
>>104043208>>104049561And it will continue until something newer and better pops up.
>>104049673That's an extremely reductive, retarded and wrong thing to just claim. It also wouldn't matter, what would matter is how everyone reacted to and felt about their character (and how much pre-thought Kay Yu put in to already avoid some of the things EN fans would have put in).
>>104034915This is about the yelling at the AFO. CC wasn't too trilled about the crowd chanting Autofister.
>>104051150>That's an extremely reductive, retarded and wrong thing to just claimAlright. Do you have evidence to the contrary then? Because other than Flare having a minor melty over clownfish, none of the talents had anything but good things to say about Holocure, including all the references.
>>104051187Well they’re getting paid ass loads of money to sing 2 songs and dance. Let the autists chant their autistic chants.They’re going to do it either way so might as well be chill about it.
>>104051187>CC wasn't too trilled about the crowd chanting AutofisterShe was playing tsukkomi, you sperg.
>>104051222>I watched every second of every Holo stream including the ones who didn't stream and have the expert take on their views!You act like a clown.
>>104051301>I just KNOW that they hate all the little gags and references in their most beloved fan game though I have no real proof of it, just a feelingAnd you must be psychic.
maybe the issue is that certain JPs need to collab with ENs more often. I forget some of the JPs I don't watch are even still employed because they stick to the JP side and only sometimes show up for a big event. You can hardly blame people for only knowing an ancient meme because they haven't interacted with those fans for years now.
>>104051519None of that would solve anything, the thing people are nostalgic for is a day where they "knew" every Holo. That's why no new members suffer from this sorta stuff, the software never updates to accomodate them. It's just not possible now for people to know every Holo but the type of freaks who go to American conventions still think it's their responsibility to spout the years-old memes they do remember at people to show they are "in-the-know" even though it outs them as a worthless casual. There are threads on this board that are supposedly about engaging with JP's where half the people are still idiots that miss some of the biggest memes and references from the biggest JP Holos because they aren't actually paying any attention. This board is also full of people who just don't even have the slightest awareness of Hololive today which is why they are still referencing people who haven't participated in Hololive for years or act like people are supposed to coddle them when they think Azki is obscure.
>>104034915XD Fuwawa isnt real
>>104050339True kek
>>104034915retarded thumbnailreader
>>104034915>tried to do evil>was stopped by a miraculous tech malfunctionyou will be an angel and not a devil whether you like it or not
>>104034915Shut the fuck up Okabe
>>104045875that's just all foids, a guy hitting on you is a compliment but they all respond with spite, instead a polite & sincere no thank you
>>104050002why would they ban? they need those subscription counts
>>104051266I don't think CC can ever play tsukkomi given her 'tism, however she's never THAT upset (if she was she'd just go silent)
>>104050280but it's a holiday, neet-kun
>>104043839anon these are angry women who hate hololive, not jp fans
Towa is retarded. Stuff like this only alienates and divides people. Why would any EN viewer want to waste their time learning about Towa when there's a probability they're going to step on a landmine and some autistic old fuck is going to scold them for calling Towa an angel/cute.There's so many gatekeeper kzk who think it's completely normal and reasonable that everyone should know about Towa's feelings on TMT because of her comments on a fucking holotalk episodes from 2023. Keep your retarded bitch in Japan then and don't invite her to America for concerts where most of the people don't know fucking know or care about her and are just trying to be nice. What a stupid bitch for making a big deal about being called an angel, she's giving fuel to antis, and gatekeeping new fans. Amazing. Sasuga retard.
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>>104050002But if they hadn't overreacted so hard about it we wouldn't have gotten Zogogo
