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In Japan, any job is considered a lifetime employment. You are not supposed to quit your job. There is a sense of loyalty expected to your place of work.
In turn, it's also very difficult to get fired, since being not good enough is not a valid reason to fire someone. Hence why people like Gura can slack off for years and be fine.

That is to say, when someone calls a HoloJP a "traitor" for leaving, they're actually basing it on something very real in Japan.
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>>104039354
Miko should rape you.
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>>104039313
Every single hololive member quit their pre-holo job. They are all natural traitors. The ones who leave to return to the real world are simply getting back to their roots and there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>104039415
Examples? Most of them were either jobless, indie or worked at a black company.
Black companies are okay to leave, the same way it's okay to divorce an abusive husband.
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Nonsense, the Japanese youth absolutely hate the traditional working culture
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>>104039456
Hence why the economy is dying.
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>>104039313
Except non of these talents are "employees" in the first place, anon. It's really just a gig that isn't supposed to last more than a couple of years in most cases.
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>>104039447
Aside from the ones who joined while underage they all had a job. Indie streamers have jobs too.
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>>104039382
She did but I was forced to wear a blue wig
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>>104039313
It's no longer the late 1990s / early 2000s anymore. Most JP companies nowadays work around the system by hiring their employee on contract basis rather than offering permanent full time positions
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>>104039456
>Trust me bro the new generation is progressive bro Japan will turn any day now bro
People have been saying this for decades and Japan has barely changed
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>>104040001
>Japan has barely changed
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>>104039313
yes, idols are famous for performing their entire life. in fact, only hololive has invented graduation, there were no concept of graduation in japan before hololive
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>>104040369
It is ordinary to go into JAV after your idol career is up to reward your extremely loyal fans.
However, the talents who graduate from Hololive just switch to being indie, thus breaking tradition.
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>>104040489
Someone @ kson
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>>104039313
Even the nips don't do that anymore. The youngins job hop quite often.
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>>104039313
No one cares about what bug people think.
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>>104040892
bug people? is that a euphemism for your std-ridden family?
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>>104039313
No, people like to explain this because it's context for the changes taking place. Companies are way more aggressive now both in preventing quitting and forcing people to quit. The culture is moving in a direction that's basically identical to American jobs.
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>>104040956
NTA but it's a term for the Chinese.
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>>104039313
thanks random EOP for the lesson on Japanese culture.
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>>104040001
Because you don't speak japanese and have never been to Japan. The old folk are largely unchanged, but the youth has been a lot more open about progressive topics like women's rights, racial discrimination, and work culture. A couple of generations ago, the Buraku were the niggers of Japan, now, no one gives a shit. Same with Koreans. The Chinese are still a sore subject, but that's because most of their tourists are to them what Indians are to the west.
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>>104043930
Yes bro 2 more weeks bro Japan is going woke any moment now bro I'm telling you bro
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I highly doubt that culture still exists in today's economy
careers arent a thing anymore, if you want a raise or promotion, you're expected to find another employer that will pay you more
its not the 90s anymore
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>>104040001
Their boomer voterbase are slowly dying of old age. Give it time.
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>>104039313
>In Japan, any job is considered a lifetime employment.
LOL. LMAO
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>>104039313
I thought they were just contractors?
Are they employees with employee benefits or contractors?
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>>104046315
Depends on the labor laws where the talent live.
They are employees in the USA and Canada.
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>>104039313
Yeah, and you also get worked to the bone, there is more merit in how much and hard you work (which fosters the aforementioned point) than in how much you make, and people get depressed when they feel useless, meanwhile the treatment they give people when they want to make them quit, sitting alone on a desk in a little windowless room, sounds like heaven to westerners that would just be on tiktok all day
and that's corporate life. life as a talent or in entertainment is like in other places, except there is idol autism baked into it
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>>104045062
Not woke, retard. Just progressive.



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