>>104084343
mumei

vei

>>104084343
Nimi

>>104084343
Nimi “little lore drop” Nightmare
Aka
The Green Grifter

>>104084343
Most Holos, Pippa, Vei, Nyan, Matara

>>104084343
sayu, and it's not even close >>101146786

Enna or Nimi

Holos, Phasers, and Ex-Vshojos

>>104084343
all of thes are tied for first

Literally all of them. I’d hate my audience too if they were a bunch of weird, ugly, autistic older male virgin incels that wanted to date or fuck me.

>>104084343
Rushia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFxbpEpELQA

>>104084513
>Holos
Anon…
HoloJP mems almost all love and appreciate their fans.
And in HoloEN the amount of chuubas who like their fans is also high (IRyS, GG, CC, Raora, FuwaMoco, Biboo, Mori)

The ones that hate their own fans are twitch whores like ex Vshojo.
So you got that one right.
And a select few HoloEN like Ina and Shiori.

>>104084425
i've only watched a bit of matara, qrd?

Any GFEgrifter or phasewhore are a good bet since they often slip up either having their cucking fiascos or just calling viewers losers etc. and I feel like it takes a special kind of hatred to be literally incapable of keeping up the mask of a nice person when an insanely well-paying job is at stake.

Mysta/Kuro might be #1 when it comes to "verifiable" hatred so since he's one of the few that just flat out said he despised nijisisters and is so glad to have gotten rid of them.

The NijiEN who last streamed over a year ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqH_jLqw9xw

>>104084754
It will never stop surprising me that these girls, even from Hololive like Shiori or Nimi, get a golden ticket to the easiest and highest paying job a woman could ever want, and then throw it away out of pure spite for their fans.

They could be in a rice party in Bangladesh working 12 hours a day.
They are lucky enough to make a 7 figure salary playing video games 2-4 hours a day, 2-4 days a week.

All they have to do is be nice to their fans and not mock them or cuck them.
It’s THAT easy and some of them refuse to do it.

>>104084837
Rice paddie

>>104084622
>HoloJP
Do NOT use this joke/meme/catch phrase my chat
>HoloEN
*stops streaming*

I stopped watching the majority of vtubers. I got a gf, and most of them are ungrateful cunts.

>>104084343
Shondo

>>104084343
Gura abused chumbuds quite a bit. But arguably it was just her autism and social anxiety.

Fauna has always been cold and distant.

Kronii alternated between love and hatred but she has been on a love streak for some time.

>>104085099
Ok, fuck off then.

>>104084343
Nimi

>>104085246
kronii has hated her audience since day 1. she just directs all of that loathing at herself nowadays instead of at them, like a true professional.

I'm positive that every member of Phase, talent and staff alike, hates Pippa's fans and just doesn't say it out loud because they risk alienating the largest part of their community. Even if that part of the community is so dogshit that they homegrew a domestic terrorist (yes, this actually happened)

>>104085312
True.
I don’t know why so many people choose to watch chuubas that obviously dislike them or hate them.
At least watch a chuuba who actually enjoys chatting with their fans and likes spending time with them.

>>104084622
>HoloJP mems almost all love and appreciate their fans.
Haha

>>104085312
>>104085377
Kronii loves her fans and it shows. You clearly don’t watch her streams.

Kronii pretends to love her cabal of top paypigs

>>104085331
Pippa without Phase would just be Kirsche 2.0 anyway

>>104085312
>kronii has hated her audience since day 1.
That's not true at all, you are clearly not a member and haven't watched Kronii solo.

>>104085482
When was your Oshi's last members, Napcuck?

>>104085435
She has never liked her fans.

She hates her chat’s “male gaze” of her giant tits to the point of hiding 90% of her model for years.
She was one of the main Tempus supporters and one of the main ones trying to Nijisanjify HoloEN.
She has legitimately insulted her chat multiple times, and not in a silly or banter kind of way.
For a very long time she phoned in the job and tried to avoid streaming or interacting with chat as much as possible.

Just because NOW it’s obvious to her that the homo collabs are destructive to her income, and embracing idol stuff boosts her income, doesn’t mean she likes you.
It means she’s accepted this is the nature of job and has FINALLY realized being openly shitty to her fans is bad for business.

>>104084580
>weird, ugly, autistic older male virgin incels that wanted to date or fuck me
this describes me and i will marry and impregnate my oshi

>>104085615
Man I feel so bad for her with that model though.

>>104085615
The maid outfit really was a symptom of getting utterly mindbroken, I guess.

>>104084837
Woman mentality trends towards ungratefulness the more superior she feels to a man. When she was nothing/streaming NTR ASMR to 7 people, Nimi/Shiori just thought they were having fun. When they were making 7 figures they had total contempt for their viewers because their brain doesn't register "these guys are the reason I'm doing so well" and are just like "these fucking beta losers like me?". This is why 'equality' is poison, 99% of women will never invent anything or even just be something useful like an accountant or engineer, but if you give middle class or greater salaries to useless Microsoft Teams administrator-type bitches they'll end up thinking they're better than most men, even ones in the same salary class.

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>>104084425
>Matara
nah Auntie Roach loves us

>>104085277
He literally said that's what he did.

>>104085700
I'm tired of appealing to the mental illness of 30yo~ women raised on tumblr. They're simply too old to still be spewing dumb shit from feminist blogs they read in 2011.

>>104084837
doesn't matter because cover pays a base amount of money to everyone regardless of merch/SC so all someone has to do is to rugpull after two years of unicorn friendliness (shiori)
also nimi's husband probably has an ok job so she's not the only breadwinner

>>104085615
She had hardships in the past, but she overcame most of it, and nowadays she is very affectionate to us fans. We have a very healthy and supportive relationship, she is always talking about her goals, daily life, tastes and points of view. We love her for who she is, imperfections and all. Her human, blunt vibe is what makes her so special. I love Kronii and I wish her all the best, and I’m sure she wants the same for all of us.

>>104085820
I’ve noticed that too.

First few streams after joining holo and getting absolutely RAINED ON with superchat money:
>”Oh my god! Oh my god!! T-Thank you soooo much! I can’t… I can’t even put into words… *legitimately starts crying* how unbelievable this is. This is so much. Thank you!!!”
One year in:
>“Don’t you guys have any female friends?”
>”We can not and should not be friends”
>”Can you guys not talk about how I never stream? It really demotivates me”
>”Improve yourselves.”

It’s actually unreal.
I guess you just get used to it and then build up a massive ego.

>>104085495
She doesn't care about politics that much

>>104084425
Matara doesn't hate her fans, she hates every other vtuber, other than maybe Minto.

She might hate Minto too

>>104085615
>Just because NOW it’s obvious to her that the homo collabs are destructive to her income
I don't think your appreciation of her large breasts is why she hates you.

>>104084343
All the nijiEN males

>>104084425
>Most Holos
I see no reason for Korone, Sora, Marine or Noel etc to hare their audience

>>104085907
You can tell if someone genuinely likes you or dislikes you.

She does not genuinely like her chat. She looks down on them as weirdos who sexualize her and hates them. She has just learned how to do the job without destroying her own income.
If you want a chuuba who actually likes their fans try IRyS or Biboo or Gigi.

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>>104085615
t. outfit schizo
>>104085700
>>104085871
>>104085876
>>104085907

>>104085435
>>104085524
kronii was my most watched member of council until a year or so after she debuted. i had to stop because of her constant arguments with her dumbass chat and her deliberate self sabotage (avoiding streaming MC at the height of bunkeronii and subsequent puzzleslop spam) because she was clearly uncomfortable being the most popular in her gen and the kind of audience that brought. she mostly keeps a lid on it now but still occasionally has a holy boobers-style mask slip

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>>104085312
If Kronii would hate her fans she wouldn't do so much fanservice lately

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>>104086025
whatever you say Napling

>>104084343
every 2view femanon who gave up on streaming

>>104085615
>She hates her chat’s “male gaze”
she has been jiggling her tits for a few streams wdym
not to mention retweeting booba art

>>104085977
>has collabed with probably half of Twitch at this point, from Ironmouse to literal 2 and 3 views, across gender lines
>man, this bitch hates everyone
this is the dumbest fucking board

>>104086040
Kronii was right about Fauna/Nimi being a shitty person.

That doesn’t mean she likes her fans though. She tolerates them on stream while secretly disliking them. These two things can be true at once.

>>104086001
can you blame them

>>104086076
they should marry me

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>>104086122
>secretly disliking them
projection

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>>104085907
Nah fuck that. I'll never forget what she did.
>vesper underwear tweet
>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
>don't you guys have female friends?
>the gender confusion tranny arc
>shitting on her fans that don't like the homo shit directly on twitter
If she had the chance to do shit like that again she would. I will NEVER trust her.

>>104085943
Camgirls are the same way, they're the most enjoyable when they're new and are clearly getting sexy for Internet strangers because they think it's fun and they appreciate their viewers for the good time. But then they start doing it for a while and suddenly it becomes all about the money. Especially if they make it big enough to have five or six digit follower counts on Chaturbate or wherever and regularly stream to hundreds or thousands of people.
>Tip $20 worth of tokens to see my pussy and don't forget to subscribe to my OnlyFans! teehee

>>104086176
That’s pretty hot.
Maybe I should give her another chance.

>>104085820
>This is why 'equality' is poison, 99% of women will never invent anything or even just be something useful like an accountant or engineer, but if you give middle class or greater salaries to useless Microsoft Teams administrator-type bitches they'll end up thinking they're better than most men, even ones in the same salary class.
behold, the average /vt/ poster's superhuman ability to completely miss the point or Feds pretending to

>>104085977
She has a weird tsundere tension with Minto where mint has introduced her as a close friend to mint's family and cried on stream when 90yo grandma mint died 6 months ago, but is also sometimes jealous of mint's general likability (ironically the thing which draws matara to mint, is why she sometimes dislikes her- it's like pottery!).

>>104086089
She's a businesswoman through and through. Those people are her co-workers, not her friends.

>>104086226
>retarded schizo post that denies reality

>>104086040
>>104086063
fauna/nimi doesn't hate her audience, she just pities them. thats why she tried to get them to make real friends. i can give you a rundown on the other council members too if you're bored

>>104086181
The funniest thing about kronii being a lesbian is how she was attracted to the bisexual/gay vesper. It reminds me of how lesbian women wanted Andy Warhol (GAY) to fuck them and tried to kill him when they realized his love of cock was too strong.

>>104085615
Thinking she’s changed just because she sang a few idol songs, when she once insulted idol culture, is incredibly foolish. The Holy Booba yab is the same—she’s hypocrisy itself.

Nimi is about the only one I'm 100% of it.

>>104086181
Your oshi is getting plapped as we speak, Napling

>>104085907
Battered housewife mentality right there

>>104086260
still doesn't come across as hatred, but then again I'm not brainbroken enough to be a full-time anti on a board that's about sexy digital puppets playing video games

>>104086017
>biboo
lol irl dyrbi? Where is that clip of her talking to Mari about guys who use female anime girls as pfp?

Kronii is always bantering with us, she is kind, funny, polite, knows her fans by name, and participates in a bunch of projects she doesn’t have to. She knows we’re here for her, in or out of Holo, and she makes sure to let us know how grateful she is. She is aware her model is sexy and unapologetically retweets art that highlights that on twitter, besides teasing us on stream frequently. Watching her is always a personal and enjoyable experience.

>>104084343
I know Nimi loves her fans*

She filtered the mentally ill fans with the LLD on purpose

>>104086227
Every woman has that one friend that's borderline bipolar like that. This case is just a little different for obvious reasons

>>104086308
She was right about idol culture though. That doesn't interfere with her love for her fans.

>>104086181
kronii has changed and learned her lesson
just like mori

>>104086308
These anons don’t want to hear the truth. Even though it really was obvious from day 1. She started hiding her boobas below screen like 1 week after debuting.
And the constant anti-idol and pro-homo comments.

I just think people should invest time in chuubas that have some level of respect and interest in their fans. You know IRyS likes her fans because she can yap with her chat for hours on end day after day. Oh, and she never insults them.

>>104086360
yes, and it's good that she did, because they're the kind of crazy that thinks posting their micropenis proves that they're right

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>>104086275
there are plenty of women in sciences
are you retarded or smth

>>104086379
No a Mori style genuine change is very rare.
Kronii has changed her behavior, not her feelings towards her fans and vtubing.

>>104086368
she wasn't right about anything
neck yourself tourist

>>104086408
no one will watch your blacked oshi cuckling

>>104086395
If only IRyS streamed more often, I miss my oshi...

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>>104086395
>the constant pro-homo comments
>I just think people should invest time in chuubas that have some level of respect and interest in their fans
You could spread this lack of self-awareness on toast and need a triple-bypass five minutes after eating it

all of them, it's why they have to compartmentalize that their viewers are all a bunch of old men who have a fantasy of being chosen by her for marriage and imagine them as cute little mascots instead.

>>104086486
>”Don’t you guys have any female friends?”
>”Stop asking about the Bunkeronii.”
>”I know I just debuted a new outfit that focuses on my enormous boobs, but can you freaks stop talking about my enormous boobs?”
>”I will collab with whomever I want, incels.”
Rumao

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>>104086473
>no one will watch your blacked oshi cuckling
not even my oshi but lol okay

>>104084343
Fauna, Suisei, Saba, Rushia,... who else?

>>104085246
Saba specifically hates a group of people in her fandom the schizo pedo groomers.
The way they behaved when she was Sen is why we don't have an official discord now.
The stuff with Gura was definitely more about her hating japanese corporate culture/contract disputes and her mental issues that got exacerbated by lockdown.

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>>104086507
>viewers are all a bunch of old men
I genuinely believe Marine gets off on that idea without sarcasm

>>104086486
It sure would be insane if this sent people into an insane meltdown spiral for likely years because their anime girl streamer won't pretend to be their girlfriend.

>>104086542
outfitschizo please stop
Saba was literally lolicon pandering and continues to do so to this day

https://x.com/samekosaba/status/1961813684516175970

Pillowdear

>>104086507
>all of them, it's why they have to compartmentalize that their viewers are all a bunch of old men who have a fantasy of being chosen by her for marriage and imagine them as cute little mascots instead.
they gotta do SOMETHING to drive the point home that they're not going to fuck you. even after, some of you still have a hard time grasping that concept

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>>104086542
lmao

>>104086025
She’s different now, matured. She’s much more comfortable with her fans. The holy boobers moment was bad, but she’s just a person, I’m not perfect and I don’t expect her to be, that’s not what I’m looking for.
>>104086181
>vesper underwear and pictel
That was stupid, but people make mistakes, this is in the past now. She absolutely loathes him nowadays anyway.
>idol culture and female friends
Out of context. She was asking beggars to stop shipping her with homos on both occasions.
>tranny
This is part of her, doesn’t make me love her any less. And she is openly a woman currently.

>>104086595
nuGura going full tilt on loli pandering immediately after getting out of Holo is rather telling about she feels about her pedo fans. Even if she does genuinely hate them (which is still possible, just maybe for a less obvious reason) she loves how they'll always come running to shower her with money whenever she decides to grace them with her presence.

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>>104086658
stop projecting cuckling
it's embarrassing

>>104086595
Her liking lolis doesn't mean she wants actual child predator rapists in her community trying to groom people.

>>104086731
it's easy money desu
TuT crowd is rather easy to farm

>>104086765
do you think lolicons are well behaved audience to gather?
they can't keep it in their pants no matter what

>>104084837
Shiori out of nowhere, she's probably the closest to real GFE out of all EN, IRyS doesn't count she's slutlarping

>>104086744
you should project your micropenis back into the thread, it was very convincing last time

>>104086850
>slutlarping
she loves male attention and getting ojisans horny
what's more to ask?

>>104086697
She’s the kind of woman where it wouldn’t be surprising if one day she suddenly picked up the next homos and started collabing. And then of course, the next question would be: “Do you not have any opposite-geder friends?”

A mistake? If you can call deliberately requesting management’s support and maliciously scheduling weekly collabs just a mistake, then go ahead and think that way. But without a doubt, that was a moment that revealed her true nature.

>>104086955
It's enough for your Oshi

Me.

>>104086955
>copy paste cuckling response
it's getting boring

>>104084368
Fpbp

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>>104086974

Here's the truth.
Most vtubers genuinely like 80-90% of their fans. If you post here in any capacity whatsoever, you are not one of these fans.
If you don't have the ability to act like a normal and considerate person, you are not one of these fans.
If you can't seperate fantasy from reality, you are not one of these fans.
If you can't look after yourself or control your emotions, you are not one of these fans.
It's a miracle any vtuber chooses to expose themselves to, in my experience posting here, some of the worst, most neurotic, most sociopathically autistic, dysfunctional people I have ever encountered. They're all saints, even the ones that set out to scam you as it's a net positive for society to seperate you from any capital.
Most of you deliberately make yourself unlikable on purpose, so it's not like you can complain. You will anyway.

>>104086123
Most of the time it's their fault for starting the problem in the first place like with this cuurent situation about Vanta.

>>104087048
go back normalfag
no one likes you including most vtubers
what they want are gachikois, the same parasocial fans who actually love them and support them not some clipnigger twitter monkeys

>>104086989
>it's getting boring
much like the sex that you have with the callgirl that you splurge on once a year. reminds her of falling asleep in a beanbag in front of the TV. she probably actually does start to nod off five minutes in. and i don't blame her, you're probably a shitty tipper

Daily reminder that women hate any man, maybe minus family members, that isn’t Chad.

>>104086989
>it's getting boring
It honestly never gets boring watching pillowfags run damage control for an Indian man's micropenis.
Like they always give you retards enough rope to hang yourselves. It's been incredibly funny to watch you slowly try to escalate rrats only for it to implode because a few of you end up saying something so unbelievably weird and embarassing. It's the most fun I've had on this website in years, I don't even watch vtubers anymore.

>>104084837
There's competing incentives to not be excessively fake and to fit a perfect ideal, which isn't an easy balance to strike. The fans want to feel like they know you, but they really want to know the person they want you to be. The further you are from that ideal, the more you have to fake it to make it and that takes a toll. For a lot of people (but especially women), you end up Pagliacci-ing yourself and eventually you burn out/crash out. The other option is to let the mask slip for your own sake, which will enrage the fans all the same.
It's not the most demanding job, but it's really easy to say "just idol better, bitch"

>>104087267
how about those sperging out about small attractive shotas?

hey this thread is for shitposting about virtual women, not actual ones. get back on topic losers

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>>104087334
>I don't even watch vtubers anymore
ah so that's why this board is unusable

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>>104087341
>just idol better, bitch

>>104085169
Shondo is bad about it, but she's by far the worst in terms of the fans hating their streamer

>>104087194
They want gachikoi money, not gachikois themselves. You somehow manage to make the easy job in the world something they can only do for a few years without burning out.
You all get confused about why they "throw it all away." It's you. You're the reason why. Surely you understand how exhausting it is in your presence?
You won't listen, which is what makes you the perfect mark.

>>104085312
>kronii has hated her audience since day 1.
Kronii HATES the boob jiggling stripper outfit and has mixed feelings about Hololive but she only gets angry with coomers when they go too far. She did agree to sell a booba mousepad and daki for merch she is more tolerant of coombait than most of HoloEN. The problem is that Kronii is stuck with the worst coombait design in HoloEN and that definitely was burning her out.

>>104085615
>She hates her chat’s “male gaze” of her giant tits to the point of hiding 90% of her model for years.
>She was one of the main Tempus supporters and one of the main ones trying to Nijisanjify HoloEN.
Anon some of that logic is backwards. Why do you think Kronii went so far to help management with HoloPro unity? If Kronii ever wanted a redesign she had to be on the good side of management...

>>104086595
>outfitschizo please stop
That wasn't me and I am not the only one that know that Saba doesn't like the lolicon stuff. While she doesn't want to lose fans it's obvious that being sexualized would make her uncomfortable when Saba looks even younger than Gura.

>>104087396
Yeah no shit? This isn't the tower. This is dramafag country. /#/s own the board now.

>>104087484
my oshi cried when her gachi even suggested unmember
I honestly don't think it's about money, but just being possessive of her fans + women feelings

>>104087048
I genuinely enjoy the talents in Hololive but I would cross the street to avoid being in a conversation with their fans after seeing how they act here (and in some cases, their own stream chats).
I think most of the people who follow my indie oshi have enough sense to avoid places like this.

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>>104087482
>When I left you, I was but the learner
>Now, I am the master!

>>104087505
>Kronii HATES the boob jiggling
She literally has her boobs front and centre for past few months
her newer outfits make her breasts even bigger wdym?

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>>104087594
Anon, it's a show.

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>>104087505
>Saba doesn't like the lolicon stuff
she literally interacts and used art of among most famous western lolicon artists on twitter
her debut slides literally had TuT crab on it
she also famously defended lolicon art
are you okay?

>>104087676
>doesn't know who outfitschizo is
he's not a napling retard. is it your first day here?

>>104087617
don't moral grandstand on 4chan
it's disgusting
you're no better than anyone here

>>104084343
I don't think anyone could go out harder than that /k/ girl from Idol. She absolutely hated the people watching her. Mostly because she preferred going back to her groomers.

>>104087761
>Mostly because she preferred going back to her groomers
who doesn't
at least groomers actually care

>>104087757
NTA but he probably is

Punkalopi/Enya Ignis/Eulix

She went corpo and made a song about and full on stated how much she wanted to get away from the retarded zoomer tranny audience she cultivated as Punkalopi (legit one of the most intolerably bad fanbases ever conceived). But between her own retarded tranny zoomer pandering history that people weren't willing to overlook, and her corpo starting to eat shit around her debut, she didn't attract much of a new audience. Then she made a full on secret new third identity as Eulix, which was by vtuber alt account standards actually secret enough that none of her friends even followed it until /vt/ found out months later, so she could avoid the few unicorn adjacent fans she got as Enya and exclusively collab with men, delaying/cancelling streams as Enya with excuses about why she couldn't stream that day, week, and full on month, while doing so as Eulix.

Yuko Yurei from the same corpo also qualifies, but even her shit wasn't as blatant even if it was more evil.

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what's her deal?
she seems to love bomb everyone

>>104087757
>don't moral grandstand on 4chan
>it's disgusting
>you're no better than anyone here
I don't post fifty threads a day antiing a vtuber for getting married, months after the fact. Nor do I blame wornen or people with skin that's darker than mine for my problems. I am definitely better than most of you.

>>104084343
Easy to figure out:
There are those that sell their souls to push the corpo agenda.
Then there are those that care more for their fans, resisting corpo direction.

Can also tell by those that shill superchats that give nothing in return.
And when do have merch, reduce shipping and tariff costs, thinking of the fans.
Also, refusing sponsorships that take advantage of the consumers.
Can go on, basically saying the more greedy, the less appreciative of the fans.

>>104087809
i wonder how much outrageous small corpo drama never gets talked about simply because there was nobody watching it in the first place

>>104087787
If you ever get asked to take a personality test by some random guy on the street, do NOT accept.

>>104087809
completely different situation but it reminds me of Rushia currently operating on no less than 3 vtuber personas on different accounts
kek

>>104087617
>How they act here
Nigga you are on an anonymous site where some not-socially-adjusted peoples' opinions about their favorite vtubers are completely unfiltered. Also, if you are posting here, you are in no position to act like you're any better.

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>>104087910
sure you're innocent flower
now go back

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>>104087917
>There are those that sell their souls to push the corpo agenda
nyo...

>>104085099
Yeah most gfs are

>>104084343
>Which Vtuber hates their audience the most?
Lia from phase connect she's the worst, you can hear her seething hostility in her voice

>>104088138
I think that's Lumi let's be fair

>>104087647
The maid outfit was a compromise for the coomers that wanted boobs without having to use the default outfit. That doesn't mean that Kronii suddenly loves coombait it means that she is aware of what some of her viewers want.

>>104087713
>she literally interacts and used art of among most famous western lolicon artists on twitter
There is a long history of pedobait vtubers who absolutely hated what they were doing. While it may be a huge shock I doubt that Saba actually likes coomers getting horny for her child like model. I think she will slowly move away from it when she has established her indie fan base.

>>104088350
you're delusional

>>104087809
lmao I checked out her eulix twitter and the first follow is a dramatuber
did she drop the eulix account though? hasn't been active for half a year

>>104088350
Kys

>>104088350
>pedobait vtubers who absolutely hated what they were doing
examples?

>>104088379
Isn't he great? One of my favourite schizos on /vt/ tbhdesu

>>104087958
>Nigga you are on an anonymous site where some not-socially-adjusted peoples' opinions about their favorite vtubers are completely unfiltered. Also, if you are posting here, you are in no position to act like you're any better.
See, this is where you're wrong. My unfiltered opinions are usually along the lines of "I would really like to stick my face into Bae's ass and lick her sweaty feet after dance practice." It's lewd and crude, but it's not something that I would say in public, and it's definitely not something that I would do outside the one in ten billion chance that I actually managed to meet her at a bar and charm her into inviting me back to her hotel room. I think the most unkind I've ever been about a vtuber who wasn't Kirsche or the Black Stream 3 was to say that I don't find their streams particularly interesting.
Most of the unfiltered opinions on this board are along the lines of "everyone who isn't white, straight and male deserves to be immiserated." This is not an acceptable opinion to express anywhere, anonymous or not.
>>104087991
>sure you're innocent flower
>now go back
No.

>>104088388
Yeah, she abandoned it pretty much immediately after her corpo general found out, and most people there either dropped her or shit on her. The dramatuber is unironically her BFF and he spends half of his streams randomly cycling between her Punkalopi and Eulix models.

>>104084343
Shiori

>>104084837
Women are hardwired to hate weak males and of course there are few weaker groups of males than the average vtuber watcher. It is a completely visceral and extremely strong reaction. It is like for the normal person seeing a bunch of spiders, roaches and snakes crawling over him.

>>104084343
>give a girl $100,000+ salary
>all she has to do is sit in front of a computer for men
>she hates it

>>104084343
Biboo called her entire fanbase loses before Mori stopped her

>>104090463
losers

>>104085943
After all this time, this line
>”Improve yourselves.”
is one I will NEVER accept as insulting. The other ones, you can make a good point one way or another but no amount of dysgenic loserass bitchass mentality whining will ever convince me that a real man should be insulted at being told to improve himself. Out of all the things Ame did wrong and ways in which she ironically did not improve herself, her saying this to her community was something she did right.

Kronii, Juna, basically any korean woman

>>104090691
it's just ame's unique spin on telling people to touch grass, dude
calm down

>>104084343
Nerissa is definitely up there. She's also a pathological liar and a narcissist.

>>104086414
>smth
Fuck off, retard.

>>104084982
>stops streaming
Sry but streaming is not a requirement for holo, only twitchfag using this cope.

this fucking guy thinking im a napling lmao no I just hate kronii. I hate nimi too

>>104084463
You are unaware

>>104086533
CCV down with HoloKnight
Siri, what was Nimi's CCV during her last Minecraft stream?
Yikes this isn't looking good, napbros

You guys hate women, so why do you get upset when they don't like you?

>>104086360
I dunno, she still has some mentally ill fans but they're way over in the other direction, like the ones talking about Nimi's fiancee as "our husband"

>>104088379
>you're delusional
Do you think pedobait vtubers doing something they hate for coomers that are getting horny over their child like model is a conspiracy theory?

>>104088432
Nyanners and Chibidoki were two major vtubers who made it clear what they actually thought of lolicons. While Chibidoki is now selling a figure of her loli model and did apologize over her language she also states that her opinions remain the same. Vtubing is a business some of them do stuff even when they find it creepy or degrading.

>>104085435
I don't think kronii hates her fans at all, she spends most of the time talking to them tho

>>104086595
The reason we love saba

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There comes a time when a vtuber can no longer repress the "ick" she gets from her viewers, and she feels compelled to get rid of their affections for her as quickly as possible.

>>104087358
So they just like future Chad

>>104086360
Anon have you not seen the comments the fans who remained post about and her husband? I'd hardly call those who remain sane.

>>104084343
Mumei - she is just gone now
Numi/fauna - sharing she's getting married, for no reason, something is fishy.

People are saying kronii, but I don't see this, she is a shit talker for the most part. The outfit thing is weird, with the maid outfit, but I'm in the group of enjoyers who would fuck that maid model of kronii. It's so hot and cute

I do think it is cringe when a vtuber tries to control or say what's fan art should look like, I have seen a clip of Chibidoki taking about being "sexualized", she needs to fuck off

>>104093370
You have to go back

>>104092091
>Slept metaphorically and literally with the 2 worst drama niggers on /vt/ and YT clipshit
>tells everyone she's gonna go back to being a prostitute if vtubing doesn't work out
>Only revvs up the views when she drama dumps

>>104092899
>she also states that her opinions remain the same
she literally said her opinions have changed over the years
why are loli antis like you such massive liars

>>104088350
oh so you're that retarded schizo who keep ignoring the fact that she had liked and shared lewd loli art before

>>104093881
You don’t even watch her kek

>>104092295
Because we’re paying them to like us the least they can do is pretend

>>104093776
Back to where?

>>104094128
>n-no she didn't!
thank god not many do

>>104093737
Kronii's "fans" are the reason I gave up on Holo entirely until Advent. Between the bullshit with the offstream minecraft, that members stream, and eventually with the dudes... jesus fuck I'd hate my fans too if I had to deal with those fuckers as my job. They were completely neurotic.
>>104093881
ok sis. Hopcon was still a disgrace

>>104094240
>the dudes
you mean the ones cover had to fire? one who went off his meds in japan and they had to get ACTUAL tard wranglers to control him?
yeah how DARE they speak ill of them

>>104094240
She could have asked for a model without gigantic fucking tits bursting at the seems if she didn’t want people to notice her gigantic fucking tits.
She could have not been autistic about the one thing in Minecraft she did that her fans and other fans found really cool.
She could have taken the feelings of the people who pay her bills into account before being conned into Homo collabs by Omega and EN management.

And she treated her fans like shit for like her first 3 years in the company.
She’s honestly lucky anybody shows up to watch at all.

>>104094166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oXkiQdr5mo
Just in case you're confused, you are Princess Leia

smug alana

>>104094240
>Kronii's "fans" are the reason I gave up on Holo entirely until Advent. Between the bullshit with the offstream minecraft, that members stream, and eventually with the dudes... jesus fuck I'd hate my fans too if I had to deal with those fuckers as my job. They were completely neurotic.
Not surprising to hear that they're as obnoxious in stream chats as they are here. Worst fucking fanbase istg

>>104093737
Nimi did it because of the Vshojo incident (there was a rumor someone there worked for Cover and said he knew all the marital statuses of the talent, maybe more). She did it to get ahead of it. Just imagine having a friend like that who doesn’t show any solidarity with you and leaves you to be potentially blackmailed alone…

>>104092217
Because she's playing Hollow Trite.

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>>104094573
>>104094240

>>104084343
Gura. She quit so she wouldn’t have to talk to them.

>>104094793
KEK

>>104094355
>She could have taken the feelings of the people who pay her bills into account before being conned into Homo collabs by Omega and EN management.
That part in 95% of the conversations you've ever had with another human where they suddenly seem to lose interest in whatever you're saying? It happened because you said some stupid shit like this.

>>104084837
Try not being an insufferable asshole and maybe they’ll be able to manage it one day

>>104094873
I know you loved the wacky, unhinged Vesper MIND BREAK stream, but it’s been 3 years anon.
Even Kronii knows it was a bad decision by now.

>>104093696
There's been so much bullshit talked on this score that I'm going to need you to post some examples yourself, anon. Otherwise, I'm going to just assume that this is the usual unicorn FUD.

>>104095030
Go look at literally any Nimi comment section, or even her fucking live chat.
>”OUR husband!”
>”When is OUR husband going to debut?!”
>”Haha OUR husband sure is going to have it rough!”
>”Hang in there OUR husband!”

I don’t want you faggots to ever say the words “unicorn” or “incel” or “parasocial” ever again.
You freaks will openly degrade yourselves in the hopes of getting a little attention or good boy points.

>>104094454
I don’t get it

feel like the only chuubas who don't hate their audience are the ones who are just as autistic as their fans
so basically doki and filian

>>104095030
See >>104086410

>>104094950
I didn't even see it. I'm a casual Hololive fan at best. I just know that if I was a normie who heard you complaining about "collabing with homos" I'd walk away from you. No warning, no polite excuses, just Immediate Conversation Death. Like if you were a nest of wasps that I had just brushed with my knee.
If it were me IRL that you were talking to, brainrotted /vt/ poster to another, I would still walk away from you because I know that whatever legitimate points you're about to make w.r.t. this Vesper stream are going to be quickly followed by something so stupid that I'd be made dumber just by parsing it.

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>>104095221
>>104095167
Wait... wait.
Are you seriously reading those comments and truly believe that they think they're married to the dude or that it's some sort of parasocialism towards the husband?
Holy shit. You CAN'T be this stupid. Have you ever been outside before?
The point of jokes like that is to get a rise out of the streamer. It's the same as the wisps' "SHE HATES US" or the flat jokes made about every vtuber below a D cup.

Wait, are you the anon who thought the word "blackmail" literally meant to be raped by a black man?

All of them.

>>104095423
coping napling

>>104084343
Some bumfuck indie 2view no one on this board would know.
A vtuber whose popular enough to be fully supported by her audience has past a filter threshold. She can only hate her audience so much for her to have gotten there in the first place.

>>104095465
Holy shit you are, aren't you? That was a fauna anti thread, too. Dear Lord, this is funny. You're still obsessed with her?

>>104095192
You've either never seen Star Wars or you're (unsurprisingly) very stupid.

>>104095423
You HAVE to go back

>>104095524
Star Wars is gay nerd

>>104087894
isnt that her shtick?

>>104084837
no, people from the first world wouldn't be working in your rice fields

>>104095760
the franchise as a whole is overrated and oversaturated as fuck, but the first movie is a charming little romp. you're not weird if you haven't seen it (okay, maybe a *little* weird) but it's worth a watch.
that clip that I posted encapsulates the average vtuber's relationship with their audience pretty well. the fans are Princess Leia, and the vtuber is Han Solo. Han has gone into dangerous territory (the Internet) to rescue the spoiled brat Leia (the audience), and she responds by being a nitpicky asshole who's dismissive of and bigoted towards Han's companion Chewie (insert almost anyone the vtuber has ever collabed with). Han's no Solid Snake - he's making shit up as he goes along, and often breaking shit as he does it - but he's the only person who's in a position to help her at all (who the fuck else would want to talk to a bunch of horny sadbrained idiots for hours at a crack?)

>>104096211
give it time lol

>>104084343
Twisty

>>104094355
>She could have asked for a model without gigantic fucking tits bursting at the seems if she didn’t want people to notice her gigantic fucking tits.
There was someone in Council that was crying when they first looked at their model. Anon you don't have to be a detective to figure out that Kronii made her views clear to Cover from day one. Hololive isn't evil but they wanted some of the EN talents to go after the coomer market and they didn't care how the talents felt about that.

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>>104097081
IRyS wanted to be a loli, Fauna wanted to be a loli, Kronii wanted to be flat.
This is why Advent is the Matsuzaka generation, EN management stopped being such fuckwits and fit the models to the talents instead fitting talents to the models.
The Omegatroon era was devastating

>>104085495
Pippa is barely right wing and doesn't care about politics almost at all.

>>104094774
omg you people don't like anything

>>104098341
I remember even Mori said she wanted to be small and cute like Gura, but they made her use the cool model instead

>>104098675
Can you post the stream or clip where mori have sayd that? I want to see it too

>>104098764
Fuck man it was in like 2020. I want to say it was one of the Mad Father streams while she was going through the scissor doll caves with the noisemakers.

>>104088581
you literally type like normalfag twittnigger

>>104090284
my oshi is into weak fragile men unironically

>>104095287
Majority of vtubers are against collabing with homos for a good reason

>>104095287
>>104094873
>exposes himself as a normie
>gets upset when you expect someone to be considerate of others, especially those who are paying your bills
Tourists, everybody. If you're wondering why the hobby is infested with retarded insufferable twitch whores and simps, this is why.
You're not welcome, neither is whatever stupid bitch you're desperately defending. Fuck off.

>>104098675
So has she never listened to herself speak? What am I saying ofc not. If she listened to her own "music" she'd never have to nerve to subject others to it.

Akuma Nihmune

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>>104084343
sussy

>>104090691
Ame probably didn't mean it in the way it was interpreted but you fail to understand the context in which "improve yourself" has been used against men for like a decade now. Especially by out of touch women. It has been used in a way to belittle and handwave away men's genuine issues.

Most men don't have any close friends.
30% of young men are still virgins.
Men's education rates are falling.
Young women now out earn young men.
A large portion of young men have never had a long term relationship.
A large portion of young men aren't able to reach the same milestones that their father's and grandfather's did.
Men are terrified of approaching women with romantic interest.
Family courts completely fuck men.
Men make up the majority of homelessness, the prison population, men are the victims of most crime, men live shorter lives, men kill themselves much more often, men are more likely to die of preventable illness, most workplace accidents are men, etc, etc.

All these issues just get swept under the rug with "Just improve yourself" as if these issues can only be the personal responsibility and fault of men and men are completely immune to external factors beyond their control. This happens whilst the current zeitgeist blames men for all the shortcomings of women and that even if men are not at fault for their current situation, they deserve it so that women can take top spot.

>>104098675
loli mori would mindbrake normalfags so much I need it

>>104099513
the only right answer
she's stuck up failed idol that hates vtubing

>>104085395
It's true at least for gen 0 and gamers

>>104086850
Depends what you mean by GFE. If you mean legit GFE, with all the menhara shit, the sometimes cold, usually warm attitude, and emotional instability but acting cute for (you) and being reliant on (you), she and Kiara are pretty close to the real deal.

>>104084622
>love and appreciate their fans.
Tolerate. The word you're looking for is tolerate.

>>104086016
Nene wishes she could despise her fans as much as Sora does.

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>>104101466
Sora despises her fans????

>>104101544
Absolutely.

>>104101568
?????
there's literally no signs of this
more of the opposite

>>104101861
If you know, you know. If not? You don't need to.

>>104084620
This is the only correct answer and this entire thread has been dogshit. None of your basic EN girls who have told you to touch grass hold a candle to the unbridled contempt and psychotic hatred this vicious menhera has for her fans.

>>104101916
Go ahead and post it.

>>104092091
I stopped keeping count of her bullshit after I made that grudgepost, but there have been more.

>>104102112
Based doxx beggar.

>>104086063
I was wondering how long it would take someone to make a cuckling edit of this lmao

>>104102210
Sora doesn't have active rm tho

>>104084343
Kirsche

>>104086357
you meant mori, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opfibcZQkWI
doesn't matter for me because i don't use an anime girl profile picture as a guy so biboo's just someone that's cute and somewhat well-versed in meme culture to me
although i'm the guy that came up with the "biboo is so CGDCT she hates her male fans" rrat. this conflicts with her getting mad at winning the least sexy awards...maybe that was to look sexy primarily to female fans?
what if she doesn't like anime girl pfps because she half-subscribes to the "unicorn = tranny" mindset and thinks that any guy representing themselves as a girl wishes they could join hololive

>>104101916
As someone who is member of sora fan club and sees every post and rumor
you're trolling

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>>104102330
Now that I think of it, she's among the few chuubas that don't emasculate their audience by association with overly impotent mascots. Also encourages proactive and positive behavior in their actual life. It does say something when a chuuba is oblitering unicorns by mere existence while at the same time attracting the most insane oilers. She does get annoyed by retarded chatters and confronts them directly. Also no shying away from arguing with chat.

All to say, this is almost as legit and well-intended as interactions with streamers can possibly get. Wouldn't be the same with simpleton audience but she has intentionally built the current one the way it is.

>>104099156
>Tourists, everybody. If you're wondering why the hobby is infested with retarded insufferable twitch whores and simps, this is why.
>You're not welcome, neither is whatever stupid bitch you're desperately defending. Fuck off.
lol make me bitch. I'm an indie pilled daywalker and there's nothing you can do about it. The last year and a half has shown everyone that your lot is the problem.

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>>104084622
>The ones that hate their own fans are twitch whores like ex Vshojo.
Peke loves her fans more than any Holo and it's not even close.

Petra Gurin
>>104084425
Pippa can't live without venting to her chat so I doubt it. I read that she even rescheduled her Anime North meet and greet when she overslept and didn't charge for it.

>>104099883
>the usual redpill bellyaching
Patriarchy and capitalism hurt everyone, regardless of gender.
This is all the same logic used by that one church who put up that sign that asked why narcan is cheaper than insulin, rather than asking why either of them are expensive in the age of mass production.
It's like the priests who spent hours arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin when thousands were dying of starvation.
If you're not ready to challenge the foundational structures of ownership on Earth, then you're not ready to tackle any of the problems that you listed.

>>104099156
>normie
You’re the fucking tourist

>>104103357
no one cares about your communist ideology cuckling
stop embarrassing yourself

>>104103673
>no one cares about your communist ideology cuckling
>stop embarrassing yourself
"Never let your enemy tell you how many of you there are." - Malcolm X

>>104100826
She’s more successful than any flesh idol

Surprised no mentions of Kagura Mea yet ITT. But I guess that's a blast from the past and VT is all newfags now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt31fJU0lhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQozkabNqw
I remember some really vicious clips that aren't around anymore, lol.

>>104084343
pippa, kronii, mori, nyan

All Holos, except the traitors, adore their fans.

>>104104277
Is it not the other way around?

>>104104333
No.

>>104103986
Kagura Mea plays into it
it's a brat larp

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>>104093370
I've definitely thought about how much I want to prone bone Gigi but also acknowledged that she'd never be into me so instead I grew to enjoy her like she was one of the bros who share my interests (lust towards girls) but then she dropped that ace retardation so I left.

>>104104585
Cuck cope

>>104099513
Incredibly based. Yuri-niggers are an absolute cancer that ruin the fandom for everyone.

>>104099513
Holy based. Only shitters spam yuri bait shit to stay relevant.

>>104103986
>softest, most basic brat act ever
>hates her fans

>>104086357
>knows her fans by name
Must be nice Nerrev, random clipper, daaku....

>>104103000
>>104102330
>Now that I think of it, she's among the few chuubas that don't emasculate their audience by association with overly impotent mascots.
By this logic almost all holos hate their viewers if they need to see them as chink-tier plushies to be able to stomach them kek

>>104104729
??? I watched Kagura before you were even born
I don't watch Nimi

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>>104105093
To be fair A LOT of Japanese hololive talents play into the yuri trope

>>104105115
I miss Okakoro desu