Well, who is at fault?
>>104108283Riku, jeet management/staff
dookiebird
Nepotism (elira)
I miss thisThis could have been so greatMaybe in a better timeline...In a better life....
>>104108283Management squandering good talent and allowing shitty talent to run the good talent out the door.
What could have been, but wasn't...
Source: twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1415131594503819265
>>104108283Management
>>104108283It wouldn't be a downfall if you could pinpoint just one scapegoat
>>104108372>>104108403>>104108430>>104108455Wasted potential. Such a shame.
whoever decided to do the black stream
>>104108283Hanamori thinking they could bully a BPDemon and a Russian Stacy and face zero backlash because they bullied a transgender girl and got away with it once
>>104108283https://youtu.be/y4zdDXPYo0I?si=sVaAjCnFb6qSgDyp
>>104108283NijiEN's internal downfall happened all the way back in 2022 when management decided to drop the girls and focus on chasing LuxNoc money instead. (with the key turning point being management not doing anything for the branch's 1yr anniversary, and instead went balls-to-the-wall for Luxiem's half-anniversary)NijiEN's external downfall started forming cracks with Zaion's termination, but the real break came with the double wammy of Pomu's graduation and Selen's termination, with the black screen stream cementing the fate of the branch.
>>104108283jeets
>>104108317/thread
>>104108283Elira
>>104108283The moron who that thought crucifying Selen was a great idea (most likely someone in management), that was completely tone deaf and retarded
>>104108372>>104108403Would never work an any timeline, let's be honest
>>104108701Nina didn't even do shit to contribute to their collapse, in fact she's a fucking coward who didn't twist the knife when she should have.
>>104109163It would in the timelines where they didn't hire the worst Hanamori members or in the timeline where EN actually had competent management>most likely someone in managementThey let it slip in the black stream that Selen also sued some livers
>>104109233How is "helping VShojo poach multiple livers" not doing anything?
>>104108283ManagementEverything bad about NijiEN can be traced back to management doing whatever the wanted.>Give priority to Male Livers instead of treating the waves equally>Cancelling the first concert in 23 for "reasons" so bullshit even luxiem threw a hissyfit, making Pomu and Selen mop up the mess>Putting off 3D/concerts for years until after the selen shock>Set a bad precedent for terminating livers with Zaion and using the talents to further hurt her>Cancel projects talents already put time and money into at the last second because permsa few things the talents did by themselves but management refused to ever correct the issue>The discord leak>Luca's mommy manager>cliques formingThis all added up for years and NijiEN got the benefit of the doubt until they decided to terminate Selen and wanted her scalp. That was the straw or brick that broke the camels back. After that black stream there was no more good will and everything bad about NijiEN came front and center.
Offending the chinese fujos
>>104109407>cliques formingThe big one formed before Nijisanji even existed, they just started nepo-hiring their members and associates into the company
>>104109129>they thought it was a great ideaThey still do. If you ever go into /that thread/ and mention it was a retarded idea, they defend management tooth and nail saying it was worth it to hurt their coworker.
>>104109409I'm sorry but if you get offended by a yo mama joke you kinda deserved it, this is one of the few cases where vox did nothing wrong
>>104108283Personally I see management being at most fault, but there’s also a lot of people within that that you could arguably point fingers at, including how talents conducted themselves. At the end of the day, Niji didn’t have the resources needed to run overseas branches and they wanted to let the talents manage it themselves. This was their fourth attempt at a corporate “Lord of the Flies” scenario (previously KR, ID, and IN) and, looking back, it was obvious that EN wouldn’t work. Insanity is repeating the same thing, but expecting different results.
>>104109129desu, that's surface-level. it's not that they were retarded enough to do that, but that shit escalated to this point and gross mistreatment of their chuubas. selen was chuuba who cared for niji and management just decided to shit on that and do nothing useful instead of providing proper backing. literally braindead decision and shot in the head, not in the foot
>>104108283Pomu's redditnigger fans
>>104109683nta, but they could have gotten away with it if they didn't crucify her the way they did
>>104108283Management for their retarded decision and Luxiem for fostering an absolutely terrible fanbase
mostly Enna
>>104109516Pretty much. On a macro view it all traces back to the trust fund baby Riku being unwilling to spend a fucking penny on any resources. The whole reason the management consists of "3 unpaid/underage pajeets" is because they don't hire real people who would require real wages. And then everything trickles down from there. The constant yabs, the absolute shitshow circus freaks and sex pests that they hire with 0 background checks, Elira getting to play god-queen-manager of the branch without anyone knocking her teeth out, Luxiem basically getting to do whatever the fuck they wanted without repercussions, etc. etc.
The blame gets shared with a bunch of people, because it’s hard to limit it down to just any one thing. You have management hiring the talents they did with Ethyria, you have Ethyria being the first branch to be composed of nothing but catty women, you have the Luxiem talents to blame for pandering to such a vitriolic fanbase for quick bucks at the cost of safe and steady growth, you have management to blame for milking Luxiem specifically for all its worth at the cost of every other wave, you have some talents to blame for treating EN like a dating pool and causing unnecessary drama, and you still have management to blame for not only terminating Selen the way they did, but for letting three talents go on stream and essentially try to kill their ex-colleague’s attempt at a comeback before it got off the ground. And that doing that before their boss came down to publicly apologize and contradict what the talents said in the video, it understandably pissed off a bunch of fans because of how confused everyone was.
>>104108283Probably Enna, but it was the purple racist (derogatory) faggot who soured me on Niji the most
>>104110379this. rushia manager is tardwrangling god who kept nuklear bomb at bay for several years. this is what's possible if you have competent management and a proper system
>>104108283Luka or whoever had his login that deleted the mc server
Elira
>>104108283The cocaine is to blame Riku is just a victim.
>>104108372The closest nijiEN got to rival HoloMyth
how's the stock price doing, hologods? :)
>>104109233I watched her graduation stream and it was quite sad honestly. That did help form my opinion of Niji. I knew literally nothing else about them. I was looking up Darkest Dungeon content
>>104112622>all I care about is how someone else's money is doingThe absolute state of nijiniggers
>>104108283Greedy management and favoritism towards the males ever since luxiem debuted>they started half anniversary merch for luxiem and the waves after them>made a luxiem focused channel >created puchi luxiem, the en version of jp's puchisanji but with just luxiem and no other en members unlike the jp counterpart>announced luxiem project during another wave anniversary>even to this day, they still milking them by having at least 1 luxiem member in every collab merchThey tried the same tactics with noctyx but with yugo "graduated" too soon, they're not as focused compared to luxiem, but they are still the only wave with a new wave visual after a member of the wave graduated, funny enough the one who graduated is not a genuine male so it seems like they tried to rebrand noctyx as an all male wave just like luxiem. They also made a new noctyx level up show and published on the main channel, no other wave gets a show like this.From the high of luxiem and noctyx's success, they're too cocky and mass debuted the train wreck that is iluna and xsoleil. By mass debuting 2 waves with 12 members total, they forgot to filter out the problems like kyo and aster that caused multiple issues for the branch in the future.After the 2 flop waves, they tried to go back to all male wave formula with krisis, and this time they paired them with the on going hero themed waves from the main branch. Because of this, when the main heroes get any opportunities, krisis can also get them. Because there are more males this time from the combined members between 3 ENs and 8 JPs(all males of course), the fujo fanbase has infinite yaoi combination like kamen rider build fullbottles and with this they see another success.From krisis debut they probably thought as long as there are males in a wave they will be okay and released another mixed waves with TTT and denauth. Not learning from their mistake that is flopluna and flopsoleil, surprise surprise another flop.And again they're back with another all male wave formula with the recently debuted BtB attracting back their lost audience from their past flops.If you can see the pattern, ever since luxiem debuted they're relied heavily on male talents especially after released another flop. They're blinded by the success luxiem brought and forget the 3 all girls waves that started the branch. Lazulight and obsydia might not be a massive success like luxiem but they pulled a good number of audience for that time, and ethyria might be a little bit of a problem, with good management they can straighten them out. Too bad they focused only on the males and left the girls to rot. From menhera like pomu to genuine niji fan like rosemi they chased most of the girls out of the branch while keep giving the males and their orbiter(the clique) every opportunity available.
>>104114927>Greedy management and favoritism towards the males ever since luxiem debutedAfter NijiEN gave up on CGDCT fans it was Luxiem that kept their revenue up. Anycolor was stupid to give up on competing with HoloEN since they did lose 90% of the EN vtuber market but it made sense they kept doubling down on the male waves since that was their target audience.
>>104108851You fags keep trying to push the idea that nijisanji would be better or would have worked if they only debuted girls. Holotourists keep trying to push this when Nijisanji's entire identity revolves around mixed-gender collabs. So having only girls would have the opposite effect.
>>104118295I literally never said that. What I said is that management went full-on LuxNoc pandering and left the girls to rot, instead of treating all of them equally.
>>104108283Blame? Why would we blame someone?
>>104108283Ethyria Luxiem's success
>>104109409that's a good thing tho
>>104116925If they were targeting the fujo fanbase as their main audience since the start, they should've started the branch with luxiem or a mixed wave instead of lazulight. Instead they did 3 all girls waves and dropped everything when luxiem debuted and alienated the fanbase. It might be hard for the niji girls to compete when holo covering the majority of the vtuber fanbase, but the girls back then has their own unique style of impromptu collabs that felt fresh and natural compared to holo's more rigid and traditional CGDCT collab streams. Nijien girls are like wasted potential that they gave up on for easy fujo bucks.
>>104109233Classic hanamori. You dont win the favor of audiences by beating your enemies when they are weak.
>>104109409that's based tho
>>104108283Management fucks ups and liberal/progressive political BS livers like Vox, Uki, Reimu, Enna, Finana, and Elira as far as I know brought in.
>>104108283They severely over extended, everyone after Ethyria crowded the market. What was it the NijiEN 20? if they let those cook it might have been different.For me anyway things just started to fall apart after they debut the first co-ed gen
>>104108283ITS HOLOLIVES FAULT!
>>104108403
>>104108283
>>104108534Where is she in that anyways?
>>104108283People who blame only management are coping nijisisters. The fact is the majority of people in nijiEN were and are shitty streamers and shitty people who actively worked with the corrupt management.
>>104124899Honestly, I used to think it was just all staff, but the more I paid attention, especially with all the leaks, it's impossible to ignore that there's a lot of shitty people in there too.
>>104108283dookie, shint, shartara and shitki
>>104108283Elira https://rentry.co/gurrathttps://rentry.co/gurrathttps://rentry.co/gurrat
>>104122882I think it's the little purple creature under Debiru
>>104125052I think those are goat horns, not head wings?
>>104125097nta but since she put Pikl in the picture to represent Elira, Ember at the top-middle is probably meant to represent Selen
>>104108283i can't remember if >we were blaming the clique or management (or both)
>>104125232That's what I thought since I can't find anything else that could possibly represent her. There's a pomudachi near the center too. I think there's both rosemi and a rosebud, too.
>>104108283honestly just a poor business model. ACCELERATE was never supposed to last long term. Like a cheap modern appliance, it was designed to get your money, then fail. If Pomu had stayed things would have kept going longer, Grifterbird's deranged sperg out really hastened the inevitable, Enna is just a raging cunt that makes everything worse, but honestly in the end not much would have changed, only the speed at which it happened. It's a miracle they're still chugging along at a steady pace while every other corpo fades to dust around them.
>>104122301I used to have a bunch of cute Elira/Selen posing as sisters art...
>>104112596Maybe the failures from Council, but Myth was lighting on a bottle. They were suck lackuster streamers but they were basically unstoppable.
>>104125469100% chance they don't even have beef. That whole deal was Vox being a bitch and dragging everyone else into it for damage control. I went back and watched their Dragon Duck Wars 1 on 1 collab that's still on Elira's channel recently, they dont have much chemistry but seem like chill coworkers.
>>104108283NijiEN is doing better than ever, cope and seethe all you want :)
>>104125683honestly things have stabilized, they'll be the only ones standing in the end other than hololive
>>104109407>>Give priority to Male Livers instead of treating the waves equallyThat is how Niji works on Japan. The mistake of management was not betting for the correct organs. They never tought Luxiem and Noctyx ended up being such a retards.
>>104125792NijiJP doesn't put all their eggs in one basket like NijiEN management did. Sure ChroNoiR might be JP's big money makers, but they don't focus solely on them and leave the others to the wayside (ala NijiEN). They got Mito, they got ROF-MAO, they got Nornis, etc etc.
>>104125546Yeah, I don't know. I think they collabbed one on one... twice? Once in dragon duck wars and once in tetris. They really didn't have any chemistry and it was clearly awkward, but you're right that it doesn't prove or hint at any kind of ill will. However, that was also way early in year 1. Over time, it became clear how much Elira was favored in everything, and we know from several different leaks that Elira was one of the main people that they went to when they had complaints or issues or whatever. It's entirely believable that Elira disliked Selen just for all of the trouble she was causing the branch by trying to do so many projects and getting on management's case for ghosting/rejecting her. She was just a troublemaker rocking the boat when she could've just played apex and coasted like the rest of them were doing. I don't doubt Selen had no beef with her, but I doubt Elira had the same feelings. If I remember right, I don't think Elira had EVER brought up Selen unprompted from lazulight's debut up until her termination. tl;dr she likely just didn't care about selen and never liked her because in her pseudo-manager job, all Selen did was pile more work on her and the other staff (requiring them to actually do their jobs.) Selen though always felt desperate to get everyone's approval, which was likely why she did so many things for them.
>>104126162And they got like 50+ other organs left into the wild. The problem with management was trying to try the waves like in Holo. They are more like a draft class instead of an ensamble group. Prop the good ones, forget about the rest. Also it seems that mentality was shared by some the organs. No matter how bad they do, they feel that being part of the correct "group" would keep them afloat.
>>104125314both
>>104125683Hi Millie
