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The forbidden fruit
Pillow is my pillar
>>104125610
>>104125730Piwwo please don't eat her toes
Is it normal for me to want to kill a person because they talk shit about wife?
>>104125730Imagine
>>104127195She is Yandere for you.. be Yandere back
Pillow will never let us see Olive again because of the hornyposting.
can pillow stop me from heraruing?
>>104125610>no bagels
Would you let Pillow paint your nails so that they match hers?
Extra virgin Olive oil.
>>104127604What if she makes me wear them outside with her? I would look pretty gay with bows and gems on my nails.
>>104125730Pillow doesn't go outside; she stays in bed all day. Imagine how unbelievably soft her soles must be
how do i tell pillow i quit my job and can't send her superchats anymore
how do i tell pillow I found a new oshi from watching a collab she was in that had other girls in it
>>104128436I am literally a bear and even I know that's retarded, kys
Goodnight, Piwwos. Pillow is a little stressed that the PillowCraft server wasn't backed up 100% perfectly, so please be extra nice to her tomorrow
>>104125730Pillow with black finger nails and black toe nails would actually kill the piwwos
>>104129085Can confirmt. Eurowwo
>>104127730>she stays in bed all dayyeah, with me
>>104129061Once again, Pillow goes above and beyond for us. She could've had a moderator do this, but instead spent hours troubleshooting it herself to make us happy.
>>104129061I will spank her pale butt until it’s red
>>104129880modbros lose again
>>104125730>>104127730I want Pillow to slump exhausted onto the sofa, putting her feet on my lap so I can give her a foot massage while she tells me about her day.
If she has some kind of complex about her feet or she's just shy, the socks can stay on. I'm an "always socks" autist myself.
>>104130151this is honestly pathetic anon, god gave pillow feet for a reason, stop being a faggot for two seconds and suck some toes
I want Pillow to hold chocolate in between her toes and let me eat it and I’d lick off any that may have melted onto her feet
I get hornyposting about her hands because they’re incredible and you’ve seen them, but her feet? How can you develop a Pillow foot fetish without content or even a description?
>>104130489let's just say, there's a specific and isolated portion of this fanbase that like to raid us from their discord, and they REALLY like feet
>>104130489I hate to say it because I'm sure Pillow is secretly repulsed by them like 99.9% of girls, but intentionally or not Pillow has cultivated a lot of submissive piwwos and feet definitely play into that.
>>104130682Girls care about all kinds of shit. It's time to go rowing, bros.
>>104130682I'm not into all of that; I just think they're pretty, if her hands are anything to go by. I want to pamper her with foot rubs.
Pillow love
I think Pillow would give you headpats and paint your nails and call you a good [petname] one moment and then want to be babied and treated like a princess the next.
All I'm asking for is a chance with Pillow. If I met her and we didn't click, I'd know it wasn't meant to be and I could move on.
>>104132167*clicks*
>>104132167Fempiwwos are always an option.
How would Pillow feel if a fempiwwo started feet and hand posting in /pillow/?
>>104132714I can picture her gushing over fempiwwos the most if she wasn't afraid of making us menpiwwos jealous.
fuck off olive belongs to pillow
>>104133017Is Pillow bisexual? Would she get a little turned on by cute fempiwwo nails?
The threads up and Pillow streams later today not a bad start to the morning.
>>104133648Sex with editpiwwow
I don't get it. She's our PillowDear, but we're also pillows? Make it make sense
>>104133658
>>104133959PillowDear is the Queen and we're her loyal subjects(Piwwo's)
Don't die before she wakes up...
>>104128436Didn’t put tape over the other girls on the screen, you were a cheater from the start…
>>104130220This shit is really funny to read as her lawful husband
>>104133053Pillow is the least bi chuuba I’ve ever seen.Literally never a hint of leaning that way ever.
>>104128436Enjoy hell with Frieza blasphemer!!
>>104125730https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1962888698892001367
>>104135881In other words, Pillow has very long legs and very short arms (comparatively).
>>104135551Pillow is married?!
https://x.com/pillowhoney/status/1962885492648599883
>>104135881Just her talking about painting her toes is making me hard. God what’s wrong with me.
>>104135950yeah, to me
>>104136014Are you a known piwwow or just lurking laughing at us?
>>104135943I think she just means it'd be hard to see what she's doing. She struggled even with her fingernails in that first stream, but like with that she'd get better with practice.
>>104135995I do feel bad when I get those feelings about some totally mundane and innocent thing like that. The most I can do is keep them to myself. I don't want Pillow to feel uncomfortable.
Pillow doing fun girly stuff for herself and feeling pretty is adorable. That's why I love the nail streams.
>>104136052I'm just a literal retard in front of my computer screen who loves the funny furniture female
>>104136254Any other girly stream ideas for Pillow that you’d find cute?
Pillow should look into DIY jewellery. Can make her own bracelets and necklaces. Can even by a small rechargeable rotary tool to drill holes into pretty stones she finds and do cute engravings.
>>104136282Never forget that Pillow is also just an autistic girlfailure. She is as human as any of us, which is precisely why she will fall in love with me...
Going to an amusement park with Pillow in matching hats
>>104136575My dream never-going-to-happen idea is a dress-up stream where she tries on different outfits (possibly bought by piwwos). There's a couple hurdles to that, specifically that she's very shy and reluctant to take more of our money. Alternatively, she could draw outfits or play a game where you can design them.I know she's recorded short cooking videos for Comfy Mornings, but I'm not aware of any cooking streams she's done.Any kind of craft would be cute as well. I like to see her creative side and how happy she gets when she accomplishes something.>>104136984I've been wondering how Pillow feels about them. I think it'd be a fun date, but she seems like she'd be scared of the more intense rides.
>>104136984I wish that was me on the left
I just want to see Pillow happy and enjoying herself. It's what she deserves.
>>104137103I like the outfit idea. She can do an online shopping stream where we help pick the clothes and buy them for her. Once they arrive she can take selfies but obviously cut her head out. Maybe share the photos later on X once she’s edited them.
Are Pillow's ears pierced? You know, in case she ever gets that PO box...
>>104137188
I can’t wait to see pillow today!
I’ll pay for Pillow to get her tongue and nipples pierced.
>>104137696kek
>>104130489Pillow already has the prettiest hands in all of VTubing. Surely, her feet must follow suit
>>104137978I’ll believe it when I see them. Or she needs to make it clear they’re soft and dainty like her hands.
I want to see her little feet so bad
I want to be a source of happiness in Pillow's life. That should be my purpose.
Why are Eurowwos such perverts all the time? Pillow needs to stop encouraging them.
>>104139545>Pillow needs to stop encouraging themShe does nothing of the sort.
>>104139647She kissed them during her European date.
>>104139673That's not encouraging the pervs. They're going to act like that anyway.
Stealing Pillow's dirty panties hoping she doesn't notice only to be caught by Olive instead.
Now that pillow has endorsed straight up foot fetish art, are you guys gonna start commissioning?
>>104140702>are you guys gonna start commissioning?What foot fetish stuff? Nope. I don't have that fetish.
>>104140702Would she be okay with it? Maybe she was just grateful for the art but doesn’t want piwwos fetishizing her feet as well.
>>104140702>>104140953I don't know whether the art really has that vibe or my mind is just dirty, but I don't think she saw it that way. This isn't an endorsement of NSFW content.
She just thought it was a cute drawing. Don't make it weird, piwwos...
>>104141650I think the intent was clearly there by the commissioner, but it was also tasteful enough for Pillow to actually like it and think of it as just a cute art piece
Commissioning art of Olive shoving buttslug up Pillow’s cute butt and Pillow reposting the art thinking it’s cute and not understanding what’s being depicted.
>>104141650>Don't make it weird, piwwos>Eurowwo hours
>>104141838
Unironically had Pillow in my dream last night. I’ve been watching vtubers since 2019 and not once have any of them featured in a dream. We were in IKEA and she was getting ice cream refills. That’s all I remember lol
>>104142073She’s a dream entity, duh!
>>104141685I'd say that's a good compromise.
>>104141959I'm one of them. We're not all like that.
>>104141838If one of you does this I'll never forgive you.
Pillow needing to hold your hand as she falls asleep to protect her from nightmares. Feeling her hand twitch and clench whilst she’s dreaming.
Pillow cute!
>>104142164Looking through his profile, this guy always gets art commissions that are too risqué for Pillow to acknowledge. This isn’t even his first foot fetish post
buttslug size upgrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQat-dV--Tc
>>104143076She's announcing that I'm driving her to get takoyaki
>penis inspection day at school>your nursewould you pass?
>>104143901I’d be expelled for what I’d do
>>104143901I'd be forcibly married for what I'd do
>>104144101>>104143927I said in the cup not on my face!
>>104142848>This isn’t even his first foot fetish postGonna start saying this instead of "this isn't my first rodeo"
>>104143901>would you pass?I'd fail with flying colours
https://x.com/PillowHoney/status/1962970153857016269Pillow's putting a lot of work into this new Minecraft server. I hope you'll all show your appreciation. I'm hoping to play on it fairly regularly.
>>104143901>penis inspection day at schoolPiwwo I think you were molested
>>104144425She’s a sweetheart. Don’t know why she didn’t ask for help?!
>>104144504He never had penis inspection day.Saddening absolutely saddening. School after the early 2000's really went downhill.
>>104144425That's cool I was playing Minecraft all weekend so maybe I'll join and strip mine.
>>104143901Why would she need the slug for penis inspection day?
>>104144801She lets you watch her put it in so you can complete giving your sample
>>104144801For research purposes
>>104144821I thought the gloved handjob was for the sample?
>>104144867not everyone is the same. some people need butt stuff to finish
>>104144909Only the European piwwows.
>>104144959don't judge
>>104144909I see. Would Pillow be opposed to urinating in a cup to help me finish?
>>104145006the rules are she can't touch you if I recall correctly. she can piss on your cock without getting in trouble with the school though.Mr. Updergraff always gave us a rundown of the rules before examining us
I wish I were a school kid having my innocence stolen by nurse Pillow
It’s not even horny hours.
>>104145066>she can piss on your cock without getting in trouble with the school though.Holy fuck now that's service with a personal touch.
>>104145385??? How any of this is hornyposting.It's just a discussion about healthcare at school, this is about medicine and such, about a nurse's work.
Olive if you are here please accept my marriage proposal
Who wants to be the brave soul to ask Pillow for a toenail painting stream?
Does pillow like to be slapped in the face or choked during?
>>104146257Neither, she would rather you hold her hand while gently making love to her
>>104146220can’t. I’ve got too much to lose
>>104145904this but mine and pillow should be our secret lover
I think making love to Pillow would heal my soul
I wonder if Pillow is interested in reading what anonymous piwwos have to say, but doesn't want to come /here/? I know Marshmallow exists for that, but maybe she thinks it would be conceited to create one. I've been thinking that a fan site for submitting public or private messages for Pillow—manually reviewed before they're published—would be a nice way of doing it.It's one of a few ideas I've had for a more interactive fan site. Another one is a tracker for her "three tasks you're going to do today" thing. I want to create a positive space for piwwos who don't like Discord (neither do I) and want to remain anonymous; not that these threads are irredeemable, but they're not exactly palatable to a woman like Pillow either. I'm not so good at creating the traditional kinds of fan content like art and clips, so this would be my way of giving back to Pillow.
>>104146220It really has to be a fempiwwo.
Stream soon, I better get ready,
>>104146220She knows who I am and will forever judge me if I asked.
>>104146801Cool ideas ngl
Girly feminine gorgeous wife very soonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YMwMV7Y5TY
>>104146801I like this, if you need help at any point, say something on the Discord and I'll reach out.Wifey deserves more ways to be loved.
>>104147480>>104147623Thanks. I'll definitely need help making it look nice. I think I can handle the technical stuff myself, though private messages might be a challenge; ideally I don't want even me as the webmaster to be able to see them, only Pillow.
Would you join a pillow patreon if she just post cute outfits and cosplays (not showing face)
>>104147868Anon, she would not do that. She is a very private girl.Wife is not a whore.
>>104148046she see's the positive reaction she is getting and then starts posting lewder pics because she doesn't want to disappoint her fans. eventually we will get a butt slug video
Pillow on screen
>>104147868Probably not to be honest, as much as I want to see those. but I'd also refrain from finding it on Patreon rippers out of respect. I'm perfectly happy with her maintaining her privacy, but I really don't want her to go down the route of commodifying those parts of herself she'd otherwise keep to herself. I also know that she would never do that.The other thing is that I'm uncomfortable with giving her money, particularly in recurring payments. That's not a criticism of her—she's actually remarkably modest—but a worry I have about the line blurring between supporting a content creator and trying to buy a woman's affection. I'd gladly send her a birthday gift though.Now, this thread's kept me up until she went live, so I'm going to watch her.
i can't wait to see her hands again...
I love her cute little silly voices.
I like how she says "drawling"
>I think I like to be called thatWRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
>Talking about the clothes she wearsShe's so /here/ bros
This model is really cute especially the fangs
>>104148858would you let her suck you dry?
>>104148858It's great
she should have put them on olive's hands
>>104148876Of course.
i love her black laced gloves so much
>>104148900She's such a cutie
>>104148935If she really got that idea from /here/ we owe that piwwo everything.
She is so pale. Her nipples must be extremely pink
pillow needs a man in her life to be able to open things for her
That man? Me.
aren't these things designed to be opened by little girls?
>>104149282Not really. Nail polish tends to dry and makes the bottles hard to open. My sister's would need me to open older bottles every now and again back in the day.
I love our walnut sized brain oshi
>>104149439Dale, you watching those got dang hand streams again?
Pillow deserves all the time and money in the world to spend on fun creative hobbies.
I've never played Pokemon but I'd love Pillow to explain it to me. That goes for any of her interests really.
>>104149611Really? I stopped playing after like gen 4. Kinda surprised you never played even the older games.
>>104149686It's never interested me lol but I bet Pillow infodumping about it would be adorable. I'd be attentive, ask her followup questions, and insist she continues if she thought she was overdoing it.
>>104149500The name's Rusty...Rusty Piwwoford and yes I am
Pillow so talented
those fingres have been inside of her
>>104149818Neat. I could listen to Pillow talk about almost anything honestly, she's so cute when she gets going on a topic. >>10414990310/10 well done piwwo.
>>104150188It's actually very impressive to get that amount of detail onto such a small surface, as much as Pillow says she's uncoordinated.>>104150217I was happy to find out she was(/is?) into [GR15] because that's something we share and I'd be able to understand anything she told me about it lol
>>104150387>[GR15]Heh. I know all about that rule. The war of 2011 on /b/ was quite fun. Yes Pillow is probably still a fan maybe not as hard-core as some but definitely a fan.
Pillow you don't need a Pokemon, I'll pan-sear a prime rib eye steak for you.
Pillow confirmed to like ponies
Clever girl remembered to mute
I want to hear Pillow pee
PILLOW PUSSY LIVE
wtf is that thing???
>>104151144Same. But with the asmr mic up close and personal.
Pillow as much as I wanna take you up on that offer, I still feel that being able to count is a beneficial skill to have.
>"a worm evolving into a butterfly"I love her so much
she feigns weakness but she knows shes in the advantageous position here she just wants me to fall for her naive act
>>104153062That sounds like a women alright
>>104153062>>104153110
She did a good job with the nails
Nobody was brave enough to ask for toenail painting :(
Missing her already. Wonder what the announcement is, sounded like she was struggling to keep it secret.
>>104155187I may be misremembering, or I may have dreamt this, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be an announcement for an animal charity event with other VTubers. I think those VTubers may have animal themes as well
>>104155244Oh right, yeah that's gotta be it.
It's time to fight crime!
erm pillowbros?..
>>104156807I will duel him, only the quickest pillow survives. Fun fact: Dueling wasn't common during the wild west, you were more likely to just get shot in the back. Also, quick draws are a myth.
>>104156988Piwwo survives*
>>104156807This is from when she did the MG the other day https://x.com/pillowdearasmr/status/1962347327835811943
God, I want to have my picture taken with Pillow so bad. Goodnight, Piwwos. Feel free to post about Pillow's butthole while I'm asleep
I hope Pillow creates another outfit that shows off as much cleavage as her pajamas
>>104156988baka history's so fake man>>104157068shhh let me try to troll bruh
I’m kind of in love with her
>>104157332same bro
>>104157332What's stopping you from being fully in love with her?
>>104157221
>>104157787She’s virtual and always will be. I’ll never get to meet her or even someone like Pillow :(
>>104158595She might be the perfect girl, but she's not the girl you need in your life, pillowdude.
I wish Pillow had been my first oshi. Her love is healing and safe. But I struggle to accept it.
>>104159093if you can accept 4chan you can accept her love
I need a toenail painting stream. I don’t expect her to show it, but just knowing she’s doing it is hot and will help me imagine how cute and pretty her feet must look…
Has she ever called us bad piwwos?
>>104160294Her biggest flaw is being so accepting. Even the baddest horniest of piwwos she’ll put up with just as long as they love her.
>>104158963NTA but the thought of being with her one day is what motivates me.
Pillow nervously asking if she can lose her virginity to you for she doesn’t want to regret her first time. She wants it to be with someone she trusts who will take care of her, be gentle and understanding and explain as they go what to do and expect. Then she falls utterly in love with you immediately afterwards and wants to try again and again to improve for you.
>>104161859>what to do and expectDo you think I know any of that?
>>104160294She did call out some piwwos for saying "man I love pillow" and said "MILP" makes no sense. This seems to have stopped people from using that phrase. I think the association with Fauna was bothering her so she put her foot down in a nice way. Not sure that qualifies as calling piwwos bad but it shows if they are saying something she doesn't like she's confident enough to tell them to stop.
>>104161890A bit of blood, queefs, muscle aches, juices, funny sounds and sobbing.
>>104161960and that’s just the buttslug foreplay
>>104161937She's banned people for crossing her boundaries, she's just a very positive and professional gal who doesn't let things like that slow her down.
>>104162290Proud of our little lady.
Urge to go full gachikoi is too strong. But I can tell she doesn't enjoy reading delirious love confessions so I will resist.
>>104162817I don’t even know how to love Pillow anymore. Do I go all-in? Keep a healthy distance and just support like a cute daughterwife?
>>104162817I'm pretty much there, but I mostly express those feelings here, because I know it would be much too forward to communicate them to Pillow directly. I do hope she reads what I post here though.
>>104163172I hope you’re not a Eurowwo hornyposter
>>104163256No, I'm the guy everyone hated for telling them to cut it out. I only post things I'd be happy for Pillow to read. It's just that I think it would put her in an awkward position if I said them to her directly under a name. I'd want to form a relationship with Pillow naturally, not blurt out my feelings as soon as I meet her.
>>104163321I haven’t seen buttschizo since that debate, so I think you got rid of him.
>>104163410What do you mean? There's been plenty of that stuff just in this thread. Unless there's something more specific to identify him by.
>>104163410No buttschizo is still around I see his posts occasionally. >>104163518>Unless there's something more specific to identify him by.Anything to do with anal and the buttslug is a good indication.
yes hello. I’ve watched a few Pillowdear streams and I’ve decided that I like her. Is there anything I need to know before I take the plunge…
>>104163518>>104164509He was way more degenerate and talked about gaping a lot. I’ve noticed that since the beginning of /pillow/, the pillowpervs have become increasingly wholesome with their hornyposting. I think Pillow’s positivity softened them.
>>104164568She doesn’t shower often, dribbles and mouth breathes in her sleep, chokes on glasses of water so she has to sip it, can’t spell and has extreme autism and ADHD.
>>104164603>I think Pillow’s positivity softened them.Maybe, I'm still pretty degenerative I just don't go over board now.
>>104163321I’m going to gigachad it: ask her for a personal relationship as two equals talking to each other and getting to know each other, instead of the fan/idol thing. If she doesn’t bite, well, that’s the end of that. No point being pathetic and clinging to something someone doesn’t want, id still be a fan and listen to the ASMR, but im enough of a man to let my heart grow cold.A proper man cannot share a woman’s love.
I think the reason why we get a lot of hornyposters is because Pillow is clingy and possessive. I don’t know if she’s messing around when she says she doesn’t like us watching other vtubers, but I do think it hurts her a little. I hope it’s just kayfabe. Most GFE types aren’t like that so their fans can get their coom fix with other vtubers who provide plenty of fan service. If Pillow truly wants her fans to be loyal whilst being almost entirely SFW, then it’s no wonder this thread is in the state it’s in.
>>104164760>ask her for a personal relationship as two equals talking to each other and getting to know each other, instead of the fan/idol thingIn any scenario I can imagine where I meet her in person, I'm going to be upfront about being a fan. I think it would be weird to hide it. But if we kept meeting and got to know each other, I hope that personal relationship would develop and it would stop being a fan/idol thing.>A proper man cannot share a woman’s loveI know what you mean, but also I'd feel bad asking Pillow to choose between her career and me; I don't think I would. But I might tell her the potential consequences of having both (which she probably knows). I would be intensely private about our relationship, but leaks can happen and I'd feel awful if it became a source of misery for her.
>>104164924>I don’t know if she’s messing around when she says she doesn’t like us watching other vtubers, but I do think it hurts her a little.She's messing around. It's her brand. She does lots of collabs and is always supportive of her fellow VTubers. She's too nice a person to sincerely want you to choose between her and them.
>>104164971Would be her decision to make. She was fully aware of the cost of cultivating a highly parasocial audience from the start, but at the same time, sucks ass really fucking hard to never actually be able to be truly vulnerable and open with any man in your life. She doesn’t have a dad, she doesn’t have male friends, every person she’s able to interact with are fellow girlfailures. At the end of the day, my goal is to simply be more enriching than the potential costs would endure.Im not after Pillowdear. Pillowdear is important and her being a shining and wholesome idol has probably saved more lives than I’d be willing to count. But, im after the girl behind the camera, because that’s the real treasure to me.
>>104165031I think we're similar. I'd be honoured to fight you to the death for her hand in marriage.
I’ll fight any Piwwo ITT for a date with Olive.
>>104165239You can have her I want Pillow
>>104165078Nah, you’re too late. I’m already going to shoot my shot, get turned down, then cry.99.9% sure she’s just turning down anyone trying to cross any boundary with her if they’re a male. She’s a smart lady Though pillow if you’re reading the thread, don’t listen to me, take a chance…
>parasocial hours
Squeezing Pillow’s boobs as if they were stress balls
>>104165889That hurts the Pillow don't do that
I'm brushing pillow teeth btw
https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1963237185844359576Pillow teeth brushing ASMR
>>104165524I thought that's all the time?
>>104165945I'll be gentle
I can smell her through the screen bros
“Thank you, my love. I just like it when you’re here”I love this girl so much, it’s unreal
>>104166315The more I learn about her, the more I like her. It’s just tough fighting an uphill battle when literally everyone listening also wants to be her one and only. It drives me insane
>>104166347I love Pillow deeply and genuinely, but I could never dream of being her one and only. She has something that she genuinely loves, and I could never take that away from her nor from the fans I’ve befriended. I’m happy with how things are now, and so is Pillow
Spanking the little lady when she gets bratty.
Lifting up Pillow’s ankle-length skirts and perving at her calves.
>>104166366I guess one and only was a bad way to say it. I like Pillow being everyone’s favorite idol, and being able to capture everyone’s hearts. But I mean, her cover of Magical Cure actually illustrated the issue pretty well: she’s gotta be the magically bright invincible girl, always smiling and cute, and never letting any fans know about anything serious.No Piwwo will ever know her real name, because they stop being a Piwwo when they become an equal with her. My dream, my goal, is to be able to talk to her as an actual person instead of a piwwo.
If you thought you recognised Pillow in public, would you talk to her? I think she'd want to be left alone.
>>104166687It never hurts to try, if she wants to be left alone, it'd be obvious. She's too autistic to hide her feelings like that. But you cannot forget the golden rule of human interactions...
>>104166687No lol. I’d be tempted to tell her thank you for what she’s done for me but she would probably scream if approached by a random British guy in target.
>>104166726Got the real image for you.
>>104166736This is why the internet was invented. Much easier on her to leave something in her inbox for her to see at her leisure.
Bear in mind, she'd probably be with Olive.
>>104166778I’d definitely hit on Olive
>>104166687This one’s a bit hard to think about. On one hand, Pillow would probably love to randomly see a Piwwo out in public. On the other hand, Pillow values her safety and privacy, and I wouldn’t want to be the one to jeopardize that. I think I’d ultimately leave after recognizing her voice.>>104166652Ah, I see. Pillow has thankfully been a tiny bit more open in membership streams and will also sometimes say something in her discord if it bugs her enough - but that’s very rare. I hope she continues to trust us to speak up if something is getting to her. It’s heartbreaking to think someone as sweet as her is bottling up her pain
I don't think there's any way you could approach Pillow (as a man) and not make her feel uncomfortable lol. There needs to be a different catalyst for the interaction, and then you come clean about being a fan.
>>104166893I will only approach her as piwwowo
If any of you managed to date or even be in a relationship with Pillow, would you let her continue to make GFE content?
>>104167063I’ve already considered this. I’d be fine with it. Pillowdear is a character, and whilst she has genuine love for the Piwwos, it’s based in gratitude, affection, and care. She’s loving because she’s a kind girl who loves the fans that make her dreams a possibility, it’s not romantic. She’s also been very clear with relative frequency that the RP streams are pure RP, and she’s good about boundaries.I recognize that some of the piwwos are bad about boundaries, and I’d know that there’s a shit load of people thinking about her feet, but for every one of those, there’s someone being helped with their depression and wanting to die a little bit less. I would be fine with it.
>>104167063I don’t think there’s anything worse in VTubing that being a GFE VTuber while secretly having a relationship. It’s disingenuous. Pillow genuinely loves her Piwwos, dating somebody and betraying her Piwwos trust would go against everything she believes in
>>104167063It'd be her decision to make, but it wouldn't bother me if she continued. Her GFE content is about as tame and wholesome as it gets, and it's just acting at the end of the day.>>104167129You said it well.
>>104167138I’d estimate that Pillow is one of the few genuinely perpetually single vtubers out there, and the biggest reason is also cuz she is young, introverted, and hasn’t been doing stuff for very long. You can’t expect her to get to year 9 of Vtubing, being 27 and still be single like a nun. Hence why you gotta go date the girls before you get cucked.
I’d probably break up with her if she continued to do GFE. Not because I’m a jealous control freak, but because I’d be extremely disappointed she could do something like that knowing how lonely and vulnerable her fans are and I wouldn’t want to be with someone with a cold streak like that. Dating vtubers in general is just fucked. It’s such a parasocial medium and even the relationships must be intense and not in a good way.
>>104167156I’d be way more uncomfortable with it if it were like some of the other ASMRtists work. The biggest reason I love Pillow so much is I can tell she’s a genuinely loyal and wholesome girl, she’s no hoe.
>>104167063I don't think she herself would be comfortable with doing that
>>104167213If I had Pillowdear straddle me while saying she will kill me and then herself if I ever leave her, I’d be able to ascend to heaven. You’re simply too weak for this game!Not to mention, there’s nothing exploitative about making RP content. It’s clearly labeled, it’s the viewers fault if they genuinely start believing that she loves them in a romantic way. She does it to bring life and love to peoples lives, that wouldn’t change if she had light and love in her own life. Her gratitude and care for piwwos would not be dissolved by personal affection towards a single man.
>>104167210I absolutely can see Pillow doing exactly that, and that’s also why I have no intention of dating anybody either. The relationship she’s built with her fan base isn’t a traditional dating relationship, but I do trust her and she trusts us. If, by any chance, I’m ever proven wrong, I will swallow my words and allow the public to relentlessly mock me with “I told you so’s” - until that day comes, I will continue to place my full trust in her
>>104167156Pillowdear isn't a character to be acted outshe is genuine and has proven so repeatedly
This is why I long for a fempiwwo. They’re not Pillow, but they must have a lot going for them to be a fan and there’s no nastiness involved for anyone. There’s nothing more I want than to cuddle in bed with my gf watching Pillow paint her nails.
>sudden cuck postingcurious
>>104167333If she’s doing GFE, that’s a character she’s playing. Pillowdear also is 100% a character, it’s just a very thin character. She has stuff she won’t talk about, she has walls she projects. Her feelings are genuine, but there is still a real woman behind the camera who is more complex than Pillowdear.
>>104167318There’s something very sus about this post
>>104167318you're not piwwo I can see right through you
>>104167318Who are you? No piwwow would say this. Why are you defending this shit?
The anti’s are getting smart.. saying “she’s clear it’s an RP”she never says that and even removed #RolePlay from her tags. The only times she claims it’s a RP is when she’s doing a crazy character like her dragons or a deep story. During normal RPs like her recent ones, it’s very different
>>104167138There's supposed to be an implicit acceptance that GFE is just roleplay. None of us are in a relationship with her and it wouldn't be "disingenuous" or cheating for her to be in one while she makes that content. I believe she loves us as people who helped her through hard times and continue to support her doing what she loves, but that's not romantic love.>>104167333I think she's more or less herself on stream, but the GFE stuff is acting. You don't actually believe she's your girlfriend—and also a hundred thousand other people's girlfriend—because of her roleplays, do you? That is obviously not the same as a real romantic relationship between two people who know each other.>>104167334People keep saying this but I don't get it. I can't see a woman who likes Pillow being romantically interested in me. I'm not like Pillow.>>104167375You've got it.
PillowDear is possibly one of the most genuine people I’ve ever met. Maybe at one point she wanted to play a character, but that phased out. PillowDear is herself, she is entirely herself. But being an Internet personality means that there are things she simply cannot share with us; likewise, there are things we cannot share with her. Pillow has shown time and time again that she takes what she does as a GFE VTuber seriously, it’s not roleplay to her and she’s hate it if you treated it as such. She wants to genuinely love you, and she wants to be genuinely loved by you in return
>>104167318Grim. This is the kind of stuff you see vtubers who get doxxed or caught cucking their fans saying like it’s some magical deflecting safety net. I hope you’re not who I think you are.
>It's just a roleplay cuckpost>She has a secret boyfriend cuckpost>You don't know about her past cuckpost>One day she'll move on cuckpostnot sure which I hate more
>>104167443>You don't actually believe she's your girlfriendYes I do。just because your small brain can't comprehend this relationship says more about you then me
>>104167443When Pillow asks for (you) to be her only one she isn't joking or pretendingI hope you understand that your weird writings will only hurt Pillow and Piwwows
>>104167445You just misunderstand. There’s multiple kinds of love. Hers is genuine, it’s just not romantic. It’s strong, but it’s based on gratitude and care. She’s one of the kindest people I’ve ever seen, so she genuinely cares about her fans and loves them for it. But romantic love is inherently personal. And she can’t have that, because of the way her life is arranged, if anyone found out her livelihood would be fucked.
Reading this thread for the first time, I'm having lots of mean and negative thoughts that I don't think I'm wrong to have but still feel kinda bad about. It's like the dude that went to the island with the uncontacted tribes and got eaten.
Piwwo's don't feed this retard this is one of the sisters that shits up hololive threads and since a lot of those threads no longer exist here he's desperately trying to get a hold here now.
>>104167536It usually isn’t like this I’m sorry I don’t know where the cuck came from. The piwwos are a very kind and loving community
>>104167530Pillow does feel romantic love for us just as we feel for herGTFO
>>104167469She’s not cucking anyone She loves everyoneShe genuinely caresFrankly id actually prefer if she did have a secret bf (as long as it was me) because she needs someone who can realistically rein her in from biting off more than she can chew constantly. She’s worked so hard and still feels like it’s not enough, she needs more than validation, she needs sternness.
I just want to pronebone Olive whilst she’s reading and ignoring me. Is that really too much for a Piwwo to ask?
Call it something else. You can't insist that something called "girlfriend experience" isn't roleplay. It's right there in the name: *experience*, like something you'd do at an amusement park.It's really sweet of Pillow to do these streams and want us to feel loved, but we all know that doesn't mean she actually wants to date every single one of us. Get a grip.
I think we’re all dead set in our beliefs here. Those who trust Pillow fully know that she’d never betray us, we know her love is romantic and her audio “roleplays” aren’t roleplays at all. Maybe those of you who say otherwise believe you have our best intentions in mind, maybe you believe there’s no way loving a GF VTuber will go well for us and want us to jump ship before we get hurt. I don’t think we can ever fully see eye to eye, but I’d at least like to stop arguing. As long we love Pillow, I’d like for us to at least be amicable to one another
>>104167545To be fair piwwows are incredibly easy to baitone could claim her entire general started from few bait posts
If pillow herself considers it something much more than simple roleplay who are you to judge?
>>104167600I realize that but I can see right through this shitposter, so I just want to make sure other Piwwos are aware of what they might be replying to in good faith.
PILLOW LOVE
>>104167592I actually like these thoughtful discussions, as long as they don't descend into hurled insults.
>>104167587She literally even said in her debut about roleplays, like with the yandere stuff “It’s just roleplay”. Shes even alluded to trying to act like an IRL yandere before and it not going well for her, she clearly has figured out where her boundaries are
>>104167646that was over two years ago
>>104167550I don't mean just one side of the conversation going on here tho...
>>104167644The reality is every single piwwo loves her. Some just have a different understand of what her love entails, and what they want in the future. Even if I were never to be her bf, I want to be able to know her personally so I can shoulder those burdens that she struggles with. She’s a special flower and she deserves the world.
>>104167646Anon, now you’re grasping at things she did 2+ years ago. Just 2 weeks ago, she quietly removed “roleplay” from an audio and left just “girlfriend” up. Not to mention, she moved it from the bottom of the description to the top of the description to make it more visible
>>104167644Same. It’s unhealthy to never discuss this stuff when watching a strong GFE vtuber. You get to reassess the situation and your involvement and what you’re both getting out of it. The last heated discussion made me aware that Pillow was filling an irl void I had, so I’ve been working on improving myself since to find my own Pillow eventually. Before that I was wallowing in my own misery. It’s motivating seeing her improve and grow as a vtuber, too. Makes me work harder. Watching GFE vtubers can be productive if you’re self-aware enough to see what they’re truly providing for you. It shines a light on your weaknesses.
>>104167757Pillow has long since pushed me to work harder, since I was able to see her succeeding by working hard, and knew that she genuinely wants me to do well and succeed. Though, as I spend more and more time with her, it's less that I grow more parasocial, more that I just recognize that Pillow is a particularly wonderful and unique lady, and deserves as much as anyone can give her. My motto is to treat life like I'm the protagonist, so there's really only one end to that line of thought.
Does this help?
>>104168063It's not like she doesn't know the Piwwos, and she does build connections to them. At the same time, there's a bunch of hard lines there, like idol logic. For instance, she's not going to single piwwos out, because then that's favoritism. Anything she does regarding the fans has to have everyone included, because the milisecond it becomes a personal connection, it's a real relationship, and then that's an issue for her because the fans will tweak out.
This thread got taken over by the NTRpiwwo glad it's ending soon.
>>104168451Yeah I was gonna try and salvage it by hornyposting but nah.
Everyone! Announcement in two hours! Please support wife!
I imagine pillow piss would taste divine
>>104168698>lore drop
>>104168794
What are everyone’s hopes and prayers for outfit 5?
>>104169116I hope it has a nude toggle
>>104169116Feet. Bellybutton. Short hair.
Would you like Pillow wearing a cap with a ponytail through the back?
>>104169146>Short hair.Oh my good lord that's my weakness
>>104169224Extremely cute untapped potential here
>>104169224Just gave me an idea. We could have Pillow wear something sort of athletic like pic related, complete with a visible tummy and a baseball cap with a ponytail. Would be nice to see her wear it for workout streams if she ever does them again
>>104169280Christ Piwwow, that would fucking kill me. Also, don’t post Sorasex in a /pillow/. We’re already pent up here as it is.
>>104169341>We’re already pent up here as it is.That's why we hornypost.