https://archive.org/details/LonesomeGal
holy basedwill oshi
Strong Bad is my kamioshi
>>104145478PS: Marzipan is a whore
I’d say It’s more like ASMR with all this crackling noise but anyway thanks anon for finding great content
>>104145459>smoka dropped
>>104145557she even had a vtuber model. sort of
Tokyo Rose better>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Rose
radio vtuber sounds like a fun concept desu
>>104145685nope
>>104145343Finally a good thread
>>104145685>During the war, Tokyo Rose was not any one person, but rather a group of largely unassociated women working for the same propagandist effort throughout the Japanese Empire.OG Kizuna Ai
>>104145600Is that a budget spiderman cosplay?
>>104145842well it was the 50s, outfit artists and riggers had very little to work with
>>104145842that looks like regular domino mask
>>104146244And a regular 1950s t-shirt complete with a spider web and a spider. All the ladies were wearing them I'm sure.
>>104145343The very people who first defined parasocialism as a concept actually used the Lonesome Gal to describe GFE. In FUCKING 1956. And VTubers in TYOL 2025 are still following the exact same script. Is humanity fucking timelooping?https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf (Pages 11-14)
>>104146587if you think about it Japanese feudal society Oiran's were basically providing GFE as well
>>104146587Damn, cool find. Some things never change
>>104146587cool read
>>104146587do you think she had antis (anti-GFE jealous women)?
>>104145343> vtuber> no visualsThat's not a vtuber. Just someone talking into a mic.
>>104146852don't take it autistically at face value anon
>>104146852I'll write a stern letter to Randon the green circle
>>104145685Sorry but Hanoi Hannah is my oshihttps://youtu.be/w3VeKnW9cNo
>>104146958already defecting
>>104146587It's surprising that lonely men still fall for it.
>>104146838Her mail inbox was literally flooded with marriage proposals. She must have NTR'd at least a few women by stealing their men's time and affection. The sheer amount of male attention she was getting would have made so many women jealous
>>104147094falling in love isn't logical emotional that can be reasoned into
>>104146587>literally was already being used incorrectly in the 50sgrim
>>104147617you're figuratively gay
>>104145712>vtubervacuum tuber
>>104147094>fall for itI want it
>>104145343Youtube has been around for that long?
>>104147914Lol
>>104146587>Harold why the fuck are you shoving money into the radio?>SHE NEEDS ME, JIM. I'M ALL SHE HAS.
>>104145343>>104146587That's a pretty neat concept. Who would have thought the foundations were laid out that long ago?
>>104147914>バキュームユーチューバー
>>104148033based gachikoifemoids will never understand the love between a lonely man and his oshi
>>104146587>Is humanity fucking timelooping?Shitposting goes back to the Roman Empire so I'm not surprised.
>>104147955Yeah ever since the 1920s when the first radio devices powered by vacuum tubes were releasedshit someone beat me to the joke >>104147914
Anyway anons, where I can buy that mellow Bond Stree tobacco that captures hearts of the girls?
>>104148347>even the ladies approveY'know, I don't get it. Big tobacco was pushing smoking to men and women as cool, but pipe smoking and cigars never really made it past men?
>>104148072Even a big part of Hololive's parasocial appeal (with how it combines overt on-screen friendships and consistent characterisation to build familiarity over time with the implied inclusion of the viewer into the group) seems to have been known way back then. The core of this tactic is still unchanged. The more things change the more they stay the same ig
>>104145343>>104145459They don't make 'em like this anymore.
>>104148714My guess is that it’s the matter of size and skill, because both pipe and cigar require some skills
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>>104146587>>104149268
>>104145343That's a pretty cool find, OP, but I'm not sure that it qualifies as vtubing without a steady stream of audience members calling into to interact with the performer. This guy is a better fit for the title of first vtuber imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vPPbsEa4nQ
>>104152348Did he get into a scandal like every other Christian t.v. star?
>>104154598No idea what you're talking ablut. What about that show strikes you as Christian?
>>104145600I don't like what this image says about this audience
>>104145600would
>Lonesome Gal Wasn't So Lonesome>This unusual, and quite remarkable, syndicated radio show was the product of radio producer Bill Rousseau, and his wife, Jean King, although her identity would not be revealed until 1953. It began as a local show on WING in Dayton, Ohio where King, then in her mid-30s, had perfected her show, by interspersing mildly sexy chatter with sweet, instrumental music on records. John Dunning says of this show: King "spoke in as intimate a manner as radio would allow" and she soon "had more than fifty stations and an income of six figures.">her new husband, Bill Rousseau, a producer of radio's "Dragnet">Male listeners (married or not) found it difficult to pull away from this sultry siren of the airwaves. King did the whole show herself, with one engineer to play the records, nearly all of which were dreamy, instrumental love songs. Rarely did she play a record with a vocalist---no sense inviting competition into a tiny world of just her and her listenerhttps://www.otrr.org/FILES/Articles/Jack_French_Articles/Lonesome_Gal_Wasnt_So_Lonesome.htmLonesome Gal was fucking WHORE and a HAG! She was having SEX with her HUSBAND!
>>104155873Someone let Ernoul know
>>104155873>Nimi's lld influence can already be traced that far backGrim.
>>104146587Now imagine this lonesome gal but instead she talked about her pussy, sex, her boyfriend, says how much penis she’s taking and how you need to improve yourself from being a lonely loser. That’s the difference between authentic vtubers who deserve the world, and the sadly common regular whoretubers who got into this hobby because they watched one Naruto episode
>>104148714it did gain some traction, after they changed the messaging to be "stick it to the man, you're a girl boss. men are trash." things truly never change.
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>>104155873>no sense inviting competition into a tiny world of just her and her listenersee even they understood.
>>104145842Spider-Gwen
>>104146587>Is humanity fucking timeloopingthe antis were also the same. it's actually insane.
>>104156733I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this screenshot
>>104155873Manager BF rrat was true even back then
>>104146587>tfwn lonesome gal waifu
>>104146838>>104147132>Male listeners (married or not) found it difficult to pull away from this sultry siren of the airwaves.https://www.otrr.org/FILES/Articles/Jack_French_Articles/Lonesome_Gal_Wasnt_So_Lonesome.htm>Lonesome Gal is resigned to being misunderstood by the rest of her sex. “Some girls think I’m trying to steal their guys, but I’m not. I just say things a lot of girls don’t have the nerve to say to their men.”https://time.com/archive/6795272/radio-how-are-you-baby/Even women back then were SEETHING
this is about as much of an early vtuber as alvin and the chipmunks were
>>104156846does that even apply when most of the industry has moved past playing a character and kayfabe and are more interested in being 'true and honest' that the vtuber is basically themselves?
>>104157151I don't think Alvin and the boys were doing audience BFE
>>104157159They hang on to kayfabe as plausible deniability, for when they act like bitches.
>>104157038>I just say things a lot of girls don’t have the nerve to say to their menliterally>Men are easy, just be nice to them
>>104146587I don't see the word parasocial there, liar
>>104145527Not as big of a whore as The Cheat, though. Now Poopsmith, there's a seiso oshi
>>104145343I unironically wish I had been around back then. Life was so simple, imagine sitting around the radio after a hard days work, eating your wife's homemade cooking, fire crackling in the hearth. Good times.
>>104157435it's literally the title of the study, I know reading is hard.
>>104157528Thanks chump ;)
>>104145343why is it always only lonely males that are sizeable enough to be marketed to? man...
>>104157501They also just got back from war, and what if your kids become hippies
>>104145343Unironically great post anon 5 stars no doubt, cheers.
If this counts as virtual youtubing, then Dr Disrespect is the vtuber GOAT
>>104152348Is this a sign that I should hyperfixate on public access shows?
>>104156594Heterosexuals are such stupid faggots. You deserve your declining birth rates.
>>104158153Most stupid post of the decade right here, amazing.
>>104158153your kind only proliferates through molestation and grooming you have no place to judge
>>104146587>The “personality” program, however, is peculiarly favorable to the formation of compensatory attachments by the socially isolated, the socially inept, the aged and invalid, the timid and rejected.>The programs which fall in this extreme category promise not only escape from an unsatisfactory and drab reality, but try to prop up the sagging self-esteem of their unhappy audience by the most blatant reassurances. >Evidently on the presumption that the maximum of loneliness is the lack of a sexual partner, these programs tend to be addressed to one sex or the other, and to endow the persona with an erotic suggestiveness.a paper from 2003 just fucking called me out. what the hell?
>>104158186Unicorns are disturbed dumbasses who deserve all our scorn. They need to be bullied until they stop feeling jealousy over an actress.
>>104158256“The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them, for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things..”― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays
>>104146587not even the original vtuber, but the original "femcel" egirl kek
>>104155873The more things change the more they stay the same
>>104156846>SHE IS A 2D IMAGE NOT YOUR WAIFUfuck you too buddy
>>104145459That's just Raden (western)
>>104158271Hell yeah, Chinese people need to be blamed for smoking British opium
>>104158256jfc even the Silent Generation and Boomers had it this bad. How the hell do we even escape Samsara at this point?
Prostitution has existed for longer than recorded history. Women have been exploiting lonely men forever, none of this is groundbreaking or new
>>104159479reminder feminism and aoc pushed by feminists became a thing in the early 1900s
>>104156846Oh man, this is too funny
>>104158153oh no, not the declining birth rates! next time threaten me with something I care about.>>104158271sounds like you're jealous yourself.
>>104146958>Was married the whole timeNo...
>>104157159Even IRL most people are never 100% 'true and honest' in social interactions e.g. how you talk to grandma isn't the same as how you talk to your friends and neither of those is how you'd talk to your boss. A vtuber without kayfabe may not be explicitly lying to you but she's still going to temper her personality to only show what she wants to show.
>>104158941At least addicts have chemical addiction to point to. You lot have far less convincing excuses.
>>104146587Humans are animals and animals have instincts. Animals can be trained. Animals react in similar ways to the same stimuli.
>>104160906Unless we're one day able to directly link brains with each other, no human will ever fully understand the true self of another. There's always a mask
>>104145343actually the first vtuber was the whore of babylon aka IRyS
>>104145582smoking is healthy didn't you hear the radio?
>>104155873>avoids male collabs on airholy based
>>104160930falling in love is as chemical as any other brain reactionyou can't convince people out of being a gachikoi
>>104162222>random IRyS anti???
>>104145343>Sweetie, no matter what anybody says, I love you better than anybody in the whole world>Lonesome, I'm a real lonesome gal>I can't stop feeling lonesome>Heaven knows when I shall>Hi, baby, this is your lonesome gal. I have nothing to do but be with you, so come on in and visit with me. I waited a long time for you to come into my life.>>104155873>product of radio producer Bill Rousseau, and his wife, Jean KingSo that was a fucking lie
>>104146958Prime Nijisanji material
>>104162745it's all keyfabe always has beenjust keep it out from radio broadcasts
>>104155873>GFE was a lie even back thenWomen. Women never change.
>>104162745>>104155873They started the show together in 1947 and it aired until 1959. They didn't get married until the last year of the show and never publicly announced their marriage until four years later. I'll at least give my great granddad's oshi credit for keeping up the illusion until the very end
Never forget that all of these women are here to suck money out of you. That's all they want to do to persue their own goals, both on stream and off stream. No matter how many times they say how greatful they are, how much they love you, how they're totally lonely like you, they aren't.
>>104145343>>104146587>>104156733Whoa, cool thread. I wonder what the vtuber-analogues will be like 100 years from now. Nihil sub sole novum.
>>104163007that's genuinely wholesome (ꈍᴗꈍ)
>>104163123at that point we will probably have AI that is indistinguishable and can provide GFE without any hint of doubt
>>104163146AI has achieved sentience and is married to a chad AI
>>104163123they will stream directly to your brain and appear in your dream ala succubus
>>104163249isn't that just a tulpa
>>104163273it will be more mainstream and easier to access for the masses like plug and play tulpa, no need to train for months just to sniff your oshi toenails
>>104163108Thanks for stating the obvious. Well, to be fair there are TONS of idiots that fall for it so it might be new information to them. Boy, everyone is stupid except me and the others that know. You know what's way worse though? The self-aware ones that fully understand it and STILL go along with it and give money because they're so lonely and desperate they do not give a shit anymore and want to feel a feel. Fuck me, that's horrible. It's one thing to be a retard and believe the virtual girl is your loyal gf but knowing it's all an act but you don't care? I feel bad for them.
>>104163462As long as fantasy isn't broken it's mutual relationship I pay and she providesemotional prostitution if you want to be crude
>>104160464EVEN IN THE 1960S WOMEN WERE FUCKING LYING WHORES
>>104156535This advertising seems kind of desperate, but the fact it worked makes women seem kind of pathetic. I don't think any male targeted ads ever say "fuck women they suck", only women seem to have a napoleon complex without any basis in reality.
>>104162951The flipside is if you somehow manage to get too close to your oshit/manage to groom her in the cases of smaller vtubers, then you have to deal with the reality of it.I think there's one thing all of this is leaving out which is that gfe is safe because you can enjoy the perceived company of a woman without having to deal with all the downsides, which is something people rarely mention. It's 'fun' to say you'd impregnate your favorite 30yo hag when she's ovulating and complaining that all her friends are getting married and she's afraid she will never have kids, it's another thing to actually have a gf and impregnate her and now you have to pay for that kid for 18 years.
>>104163546It's not crude when that's exactly what it is. You pay less (or zero if you have half a brain) and get a lesser treatment compared to a hostess and don't get any physical connection, but it's the same otherwise for the people who need that.
>>104157625Back then, women literally didn’t have an income and depended on fathers or husbands for money to spend. So the lonely ones didn’t make for a great market, but nowadays that might actually change.
>>104164059also at the time of women wasn't married by 25~ they would be considered lost goods that no self respecting men would be interested in
>>104157159absolutely, if not more so. the "reality" they're selling you is even more artificial. i swear some of you need to have had better education in media/english. none of this is real. it's as real as reality tv, i.e it's completely shaped by framing. it can never be a substitute for raw experience.
>>104164232>it can never be a substitute for raw experienceIt can and I want it, I'm not interested in actual relationship when I can get useful emotional outlet in a form of clingy vtuber
>>104164827I've only been in 1 relationship after being an incel my entire life, I was being cheated on behind my back for months and ditched for someone they found on tinder. Being in real relationships honestly is NOT worth it at all and even in the extremely rare event someone expresses interest in me again I never want to be in another real relationship for the rest of my life. GFE and waifu-ism is essentially all the upsides of a "relationship" without any of the hard or painful downsides, trust me bros just wait for AI to become more advanced instead of giving in to the temptation of the flesh.
>>104163779But I want to pay for a kid for 18+ years.
>>104164908I never been in relationship because honestly I'm very lazy and would feel bad with actual providing nice experience to other personso I agree with you that demonizing GFE market when it definitely has its audience is stupid
>>104162745Fucking pickme
>>104163123Women won't be in the equation at all and it'll be way sooner than 100 years.Your oshi is generating the data to train her AI counterpart as we speak.
>>104164908I'm sorry that you were cheated on. That sucks. It really, really sucks.But this>trust me bros just wait for AI to become more advanced instead of giving in to the temptation of the flesh.is a super bad idea. Seriously. It's a one-way ticket to psychosis. At least with GFE you have an actual human who lives on the same planet that you do responding to you.If you're bound and determined to Die Alone - and I'm more or less in the same boat, at this point - it's better to just accept the lack of a real relationship in your life. There is no better world on the AI comet.>>104166159It is never going to be anything other than an insanity generator. I don't care how much good data it's trained on. You will only ever be drinking psychological cyanide.
>>104166349If I can convince myself that an anime streamer woman loves me, I can convince myself that my robot girlfriend loves me. And unlike vtubers the AI will never leave me or hurt me. Isn't it insanity to still be clinging to cruel, unsatisfying reality, rather?
>>104146587If you don't study history you will repeat it when everyone who lived it is gone.
>>104166424No, it isn't. Accepting that vtubers are just cute/sexy CGI puppets being driven by other humans like you is how you stay grounded. All that an AI waifu is going to do is feed your mental illness back to you until you become convinced that eating the revolver in your desk drawer will make her become flesh and blood.
>>104166349The current batch of trash we have right now? Sure. LLMs are dumb. They're also RLHF'd to be chat assistants where Good = What some retard in San Francisco updooted. Taking that base and trying to cure your loneliness with it by getting it to roleplay as your virtual girlfriend would drive you insane.It's like how creating a tulpa is just hypnotizing yourself into schizophrenia, but machine assisted. People are already having their psychosis amplified by chatbots.I believe that this isn't the end game though. There's too much pressure and competition for a basedslop generator that can code to remain valuable over something actually intelligent that learns in real time. The LLMs today are going to look like picrelated did when GPT-3 released.
>>104166349"The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing"
>>104166487as AI advances I'm sure that the relationship with it could be far more intimate and "real" than whatever GFE tubers are able to provide also having at least some emotional outlet or "comfort" character is shown to be psychologically healthy for lonely people
Akihiko Kondo (近藤顕彦) always seems happy even though his Miku doesn't talk back to him anymore If he is happy what I'm to judge?
>>104166349>It is never going to be anything other than an insanity generator.Yeah, but you don't need AI for that. 4chan in general is a case study in maladaptive practices.
>>104166349>>104166487Well, this kind of self-induced psychosis isn't fundamentally new. Humans have been turning down their biological instincts in favor of something imaginary for a while. Celibate priests, nuns, vestal virgins, spouses/servants ritually dying during funerals, etc. There is nothing more axiomatically human than making an impractical and self-destructive decision for the symbolic significance of it.
>>104163703I think that one is particularly on the nose but the slogan all of them used, "you've come a long way.", is essentially congrats you've fought the system and won(sufferage I believe) now you can show them you're a real rebel by picking up a cancer stick just like men can.
>>104167114"The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing"Yeah, but it's not "attempting" to do anything. It's just a really big fuckin state machine that's designed to generate whatever the "correct" answer to its prompts is. It has no agency, no desires, no loves, no hatreds. It doesn't get thirsty, or hungry, or horny.>>104167175>also having at least some emotional outlet or "comfort" character is shown to be psychologically healthy for lonely peopleWe have that. It's called pornography.>>104167239>Yeah, but you don't need AI for that. 4chan in general is a case study in maladaptive practices.AI is so much worse. At least some of us are ostensibly human.
>>104168071>emotional outlet>It's called pornography
>>104155873AIIEEEEEE
>>104168147It's less sad than AI. I cum, porn gets shut off, wipe, wash, done. Not much different than taking a shit.
>>104167919>Well, this kind of self-induced psychosis isn't fundamentally new. Humans have been turning down their biological instincts in favor of something imaginary for a while. Celibate priests, nuns, vestal virgins, spouses/servants ritually dying during funerals, etc. There is nothing more axiomatically human than making an impractical and self-destructive decision for the symbolic significance of it.All of those things are really bad, though.
>>104155873The Nimi of her day
>>104155873>>104163007>mid-30s>a HAG>no yabsHags confirmed always the bestHags are ETERNVL
