Hololive is a black company
Everyone knows it now because of Gura's departure
No shit it's a black company. Everyone closest to Yagoo has left.
Sorry but I'm still not watching Saba.
Not sure how many skeles will come out because of indefinite NDAs put into place, but more will leak eventually, Cover will shoot itself in the foot
>>104249670That's fair, I am still boycotting Hololive brother :)
>>104249458Saba and Nimi getting destroyed deflection thread
>>104249746Bae is cool, am still boycotting Hololive :)
>>104249458All Japanese corpos are black corpos.
>>104249746kek, saba beat mori's big announcement
>>104249785Yeah because "no saba no buy" worked out great
>>104249830Still boycotting, you do you :)
>>104249697>Indefinite NDAYou know even people with NDA can still talk bad about the company. The bad things from Niji did not come out of the blue.
>>104249524Spoken like a true nigger fag. Any idea how fucking stupid and gay you sound? Girl made a fortune doing nothing, somthing only most of us wish we could do. There's thousands of girls who could have taken taken her place and been just as successful. The sooner people realise this the sooner people will realise Saba isn't anything special and never was.
>>104249830It did. You failed to give out HUNDREDS of tickets FOR FREE. The queue for BD hit 20k, and AfO never got anywhere close. The hard limit for the whole branch is a 5k-ish venue, maybe smaller by next year. Madison Square Garden? Dead dream.
>>104249942The ones they hired couldn't be her because they are not good enough to be, and she obviously wasn't streaming to protest the company, she wait until they replaced her with Bijou and left. She had clearly wanted to leave for years
>>104249942my peepee thinks gura is special. she makes it feel really good.
>>104249941Some companies have stricter NDAs
>>104249942Still never watching your dying branch, holofag.
>>104250037Protest against working you mean. Singing and dancing? Nuh-huh! Throwing a bunch of merch day one while doing nothing? YASSSSSSSSSSSS
>>104249746>HololivePromise specifically and no one else
>>104250119Saba is not our dancing monkey, as fans, we like watching her do what makes her happy
>>104250089>Dying branch>Saba just list to itKEK
>>104250037Your response has zero meaning. Why the fuck did you even post this shit? >>104250068Your little nugget will never achieve anything. >>104250089Not a holofag dumbass. I mostly watch small indies, nig nog.
>>104250233Someone is butt-hurt that people are finally recognizing that Holo is black lol>makes it about Saba to divert attention from company sinking lolol
>>104250119Well, this exactly. These people made her rich while she done nothing.
>>104250233The Saba list? You can go right ahead and list out all your made-up enemies, holobrony. Phasefags. Vshojofags. Nijifags. Who else are you going to seethe at, tranny?
>>104249746Why isn't Saba getting beat by Advent and Justice though? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>104249746>bragging about a 3-person corpo collab stream outnumbering a 1-person indie streamsad
>>104250279>>104250310>>104250324>>104250348Your cope sustains me
>>104250324Go buy your merch to collect dust. If you can even afford it.
>>104249458nimifags, sabafags and nijisisters
>>104250348You're coping hard atm. Just enjoy what you want like everyone should and fuck off.
>>104250348kek they are pathetic
>>104250348Plus three raids. The seething holobronies are truly sad creatures.
>>104249942Spoken like a true nigger tourist. All Biboo will ever do is transform the EN fanbase into a bunch of braindead twitch zoomers. "idol culture is cringe" - said a pebble, literally. Gura began her journey with music and singing, hence the early holoEN was full of idolfags. Now? The people that prefer twitch whores like Biboo, Gigi, CC, ERB, Shiori and Nerissa probably can't wait to abolish what made holoEN special and move on to the next big thing like the subhumans they are.
>>104250404There's nothing worse than Nimi and Saba fags atm. I actually give sisters a pass these days considering how bad the threads are.
>>104250247>Your little nugget will never achieve anything.Believe in yourself and you can do anything you put your mind to.
>>104250446holobronies have been awful for like 3 years straight now...
>>104250444Please educate yourself on the numbers; no one will ever pull this, and there will never be another Gura.
>>104250444Dunno why you think this bs reply applies to me considering I'm more of an indie fan. Go try harder elsewhere idiot.
>>104250446Holotranny, both their splits are dead on this board. You and your ilk are the only subhuman trash that makes this place bad.
>>104250485What a shit post. Go over dose or somthing.
I like how every holosimp has to make their company's failures about saba by obsessively roping her into every controversy...
>>104250506Gura/Saba was big even before joining hololive. I kind of wish she went back to being senzawa the loli memer.
>>104250520I'm a small time indie fan. Your post is aimed in the wrong direction.
>holoEN is dead>Explain why both Nimi and Saba got mogged just now Saba can't even hit 10k?>ENDLESS SEETHING AND COPING
>>104250507Suuuure, we completely believe you
>>104250569Sure you are, holotranny.
>>104249458What causes such seething in brown people?
>>104250574Great response retard. Go back to work if you even have a job.
>>104250570All of the good people who were part of the fanbase were weeded out by seething and shrieking simps like these; they really are the new bronies...
>>104250575You must be new. Did you see someone post that earlier? Good job kid.
>>104250694www, pathetique
>>104250705*Pathetic
>>104250735fags like this make up hololive's current fanbase ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ kek
>>104250694You seem very invested in defending the holokek's honor.
>>104250788Thats "if" I was a hollofag. You're gonna need more ammo jig.
>>104250866you clearly are lol
>>104250831Nah. I won't defend any corpo. Just like to remind idiots like yourself there's better things to do with your time.
>>104250886Well, I do like Sora. No one can attack that.
>>104250900no, i spend my time how i please, and you are clearly a holosimp
>>104249746god saba truely fell off, guess thats what happens when you lose all your energy traveling to Sweden and back
>>104250900I don't need advice from a holofag that seethes about imaginary enemies all day, every day.
>>104250946you liking sora doesn't make hololive less of a black company
>>104249746>it takes 3 corposluts collabing to beat 1 popular ex-corpoLMFAO!!
>>104250507Why should I care about who you are? All I care about is speaking the truth and educating tourist niggers like you.
>>104250971I was thinking that because 8k seems awfully small for her compared to her old numbers, but antis are very aware of her presence and treat her like she's on par with Shondo when Saba is very seiso by comparison.
>>104251010Wow check out the big brains on this nigger. Good job.
>>104251144You stink more of a tourist than most here. Must be a new word for you. I'm proud of you kid.
>>104251342How so? you just admitted that you're an indiefag who has never watched holoEN, that's as touristy as it gets.
>>104250985Says the guy looking for enemies. Listen kid, go to bed.
>>104251423The more you talk, the dumber you sound. It's embarrassing
>>104251599The more you talk the more I have to educate you since you're a tourist who has never supported holoEN, idiot.
>>104251426Holobronies pride themselves in having as many enemies as possible. Real or imaginary.
>>104249524>play games for an hour?>BURN IT DOWN
>>104250348"""indie"""don't pretend you know her without blue dorito experience nimifags
>>104252057>it takes 3 corposluts collabing to beat 1 popular ex-corpoLMFAO!!
>>104250497Is that why you have hololive rent free for 3 years. Kek, good to know they shit in your brain.
>>104251821But you're the one admitting to it, are you a retard? The voices in your head aren't real btw.
>>104252424I browse this forum because I like streamers other than those from Hololive
>>104252505and yet you keep making threads about its imaginary "mistakes"
>>104252553???
>>104249992>You failed to give out HUNDREDS of tickets FOR FREEFalse, its true that people had to greatly discount their tickets or give them away, but once the weekend of the concert came 99% of seats had been filled>The queue for BD hit 20kMisinformation, BD's queue allowed for multiboxing meaning the queue had tons of people with multiple entries per person. You couldn't do this for AFO because of Ticketmaster.>The hard limit for the whole branch is a 5k-ish venueWrong, the primary reason so many tickets took so long to find buyers is because cover or ticketmaster deliberately held on to tons of seats, including extremely good ones up front, until right before the concert when it was too late for anyone to reasonably make plans to attend. In the end they still filled 99% of 12 thousand seats total.I'm still not watching Saba.
>>104253088>False, its true that people had to greatly discount their tickets or give them away, but once the weekend of the concert came 99% of seats had been filledBullshit. Show proof or you're a holotranny. Kiara was literally begging people to just take tickets for free.>MisinformationMore bullshit.>the primary reason so many tickets took so long to find buyers is because cover or ticketmaster deliberately held on to tons of seatsNow this is misinformation. There were no held seats. Hundreds of tickets were up for grabs every single day up until the day of the concert itself. Hundreds of seats were not filled. You fucking lost.
>>104253088>>104253273Protip: these are performative arguments by people who are samefagging or are in the same Discord Group to keep OP's shit thread going.One is trying to portray Holofags as cult-like and the other is playing "strawman"
>>104253335Who is the samefag that is using Saba as an argument topic then?
>>104253376well, the one insinuating that saba has a grudge against EN talents, when it's clear that it was management.
>>104253399This is part of the same fag argument too, now someone is going to counter "No Gura was just lazy" then a third person will say "No she hated advent" And then Banned/vt/ber memes will take screenshots of the entire thing and post them hoping Elon will give him money to get out of his third world shithole country
>>104253399Oh, so daily Saba detractors on this thread... why do people switch the narrative around so much? It is pretty clear who she dislikes... Source: YouTube https://share.google/HuyTfmezAEIM4DAwV
>>104253460Yeah, you're retarded. In the context of the game, wherein Jafar's Parrot is a fucking Spy Network.
>>104249458The truth already came out (straight from Achan) but no one wants to hear it.
>>104253460Why do holobronies worship the company as if they were deities? Are you for real???Have you never disagreed with someone? The correct move is always to step down, to go away rather than carrying out malicious compliance. It's not a grudge; it's maturity. Don't take it out on Gura just because the other previous graduating girls were cowards who lacked the courage to say it.
>>104253457>And then Banned/vt/ber memes will take screenshots of the entire thing and post them hoping Elon will give him money to get out of his third world shithole countryEveryone's just a pawn to be exploited, huh? What a shitty thing the modern internet became.
>>104249697>>104250079NDAs don't last eternally. They are also not a magic spell that protects you from anyone ever saying anything about you, if you're using an NDA to cover up something illegal then the NDA is null and void.
>HoloLive talents are free to express their dissatisfaction and complaints.>HoloLive Clippers clip these complaints (some even focus on these negative topics).>HoloLive fans criticize management if they make a mistake or show even the slightest lack of consideration for the talent.>Many fans are talent-oriented (individualistic).>Meanwhile, fans of what fans call the "second-largest VTuber company in the world".>Have Clippers dedicated to praising and worshiping the company.>They worship the company not only in the comments sections of those channels, but also in Parrot videos. (There's plenty of evidence.)>They rejoice when rival companies make mistakes and wish them down. They launch negative campaigns.>They literally behave like fanatical Undertale fans.>For some reason, these things are dismissed as normal, not weird.
>>104249746good to see holo bots are finally gone, still holding on to raid peaks though i guess
>>104255430It will never be not funny to read holobrony or drone when the people saying it are ten times as tribal and obviously just seething that despite all their efforts to run this place, the majority of discussion still revolves around Hololive.Holl most of us aren't even here anymore.
Why did she lie?
>>104255856She literally didn't >:3
>>104255856Company mandated to lie. Notice how they're doing the holofamily shit now after losing 7 talents in about as many months? It's just propaganda all the time.
>>104249458Man this place suck, it goes from holo vs niji to holo vs everyone to holo vs vshojo to holo vs ex holo
>>104249458Close, OP. Hololive is a BLACKED* company
>>104256283Everything die after vs Holo. Only ex Holo can realistically topple Hololive.
>>104249458These threads are always so inorganic and seem to happen right about whenever Niji does something stupid.So what'd they do this time?
>>104249458>>104249618"WRONG!,...Wrong."Fuck off.I hope that you DIE in a fire,"anon".You /vt/ freaks,from my ownpoint of view,are by far themost absolute worst typeof people that I have everheard,seen and encounteredin my entire life.You all are somethingthat I am not,whichis a total,...RETARD!There. I said it.Kiss and eat my ass,you whippersnappers.I am NOT the fully-grown white man to mess with.Come on!,...Come at me,mods!,...I DARE YOU! TRY to get rid of me.Fuck all of you,and fuck off.And please don't forget toGOD-DAMN TAKE YOUR MOTHERFUCKING MEDS,you toxic parasocial /VT/ freak-ass schizo-bitches.And I have one more thing to say to all of you.GO FUCK YOURSELVES!
>>104249524Everyone should have known it after Chloe's departure
HOLOLIVE IS FINISHED >said increasingly nervous man for the 206408040 time
>>104257260Everyone with a brain figured it out by then, the slower ones couldn’t until gura.
All I'm seeing is someone who was literally the most popular EN vtuber by a large margin losing around 70% of her viewership after going indie. Nimi seems to be even worse, but that has a pretty obvious reason you can point too. I think Gura had like 3? sub 10k streams the entire time she was in Hololive. I thought her viewerbase would follow her more since her fans were notorious for only watching gura to the point collabs with anyone, even ame were actually a debuff to her viewership
There are no good corpos. None. Some are more competent and treat their employees more humanely than others, but they're all built on exploiting labor.
>>104253273>"The concert was empty" fag woke upKEK still spamming this after you got laughed off the board during the concert?
>>104249524/thread
>>104258380Gura and Nimi are both still doing extremely fucking well by indie standards, but yeah, this is why corpos exist. They have the power of the bourgeois state behind them, and all sorts of tricks that they've perfected over the past couple of centuries to compel their customers and employees into staying loyal.If you think that sucks, you're not alone. Read Marx.
>>104259114>Holoantis are literal communist retards Can't make this shit up
>>104259125Not a Holoanti. I enjoy quite a few of the talents (Bae, Mori and Kiara in particular). My enjoyment of their work doesn't make late-stage capitalism any less destructive.
>>104256332that's phase you retard
>>104258380Gura and Fauna are doing better than ever after leaving that shit company
>>104262744Numberfag shit aside, they clearly are. They're experienced streamers who don't need a corpo holding their hand anymore, and they can do pretty much whatever they want now.