PSA: Vtubers are talking about the decreased CCV and VOD view problem and have discovered that it's Youtube's fault.
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>>104265409It has been great because now my messages get read.
How can you decrease CCV? People are either watching or they aren't.
The more a chuuba bitches about muh CCV the more you know it's just a money making scheme to them.My oshis do it for the love of the game. They put out high effort videos for double digit views and don't cry about it
>number don't matt-ACK
>>104265507Counting how a viewer is calculated. When a streamer/vtuber ends their stream the post summary on youtube is the accurate number and it doesn't always reflect the active CCV during the stream.
>>104265409Another day another reason why numbers matter
I assume the coming idpocalypse is going to do emotional damage to 98% of sex-baiting e-sluts.
>>104265507Probably the age verification bullshit forcing people to log out and go through various bypasses to watch anything, or just stop watching completely.
>>104265594>automated AI responseKWAB
they don't care about you. they care about a number and is it bigger than yesterdays number. get out while you can
>>104265507youtube doesn't really have to display the number they havemy theory is that they don't count viewers that aren't signed in, nor those signed in to a freshly created unvalidated account
>>104265409pam has been around for 3-4 years and shes always had shit ccv and vod views I guess its finally starting to bother her now or maybe it always has
>>104265507Google knows, down to the last byte, how long someone watched a streamThey have very likely changed what they consider a viewer -- and it is only getting harder to prove there is a person on the other end. It may be that they switch to only counting verified accounts as viewers and everyone else as potential bots, because advertisers are getting very tired of serving content to nobody
Time to start doing polls again to figure out how many people are actually watching you.The more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>104265869>4k people>9k votesUh?
>>104266086This was from the last time YT tried to fuck with viewership numbers. It didn't end well.
>>104265640Definitely. That's depressing
>>104265409The only people I see having problems with this are larger chuubas and youtubers that actually have an audience/growth. My barely 3-view oshi has seen 0 change in ccv and that goes for a lot of the smaller channels I watch too. I think these tards just don't understand how bad botting was on YouTube and are thinking that YouTube is actually culling "real" views. Not to say their fans were viewbotting them, but it sucks to see regardless.
>>104266875cope
>>104265581>people who don't chat enough don't count>people who block ads don't count>people putting your stream on the second monitor in an unfocused browser window don't counttwitch is doing the same shit, too, by the way
>>104266127need more chinese viewers
>>104267228that's a common scam line; basically the omegle "dance for 1 point" bit but with money. its like you people don't even watch televangelists.
>>104267228>picSo the meta is to have short streams and end it when you think you hit the "peak" so you don't lose points?
>>104265409Why do they care so much, are they numberfags?
>>104265409google pays per view time of the ads so ccv or views are negligible
>>104265594>three literal who numberfags complaining>"here's why numberfaggotry is justified!"Neck yourself
Now that youtube CCV is 100% made up, since most viewers are unaccounted for and bots are still rampant, what's the point of /#/?
So how's that EN branch KPI doing lately, Riku-san?
>>104269546Keeping track of the number and the dollar amounts of superchats, since that's not something you can bot without doing tax fraud, money laundering, or other money crimesAlso useful for before and after comparisons of CCV, likes, and subscribers
>>104265594Cool resolution, retard
>>104265594>>104269835
>>104266894It saves responses from people that voted and left. It has literally always been like that. Pewdiepie streamed once with 10-20k CCV and had a poll up with like 200k votes on it and that was years ago
yt should keep slashing the views just so the grifters fuck off.
>there's both rampant botting AND viewculling going on at the same fucking timeClown world. How the fuck do you manage to cull real viewers but NOT bots?
>>104270206You'd be surprised by how little difference there is between both
Restricted mode, turned on by default for some, hides streams/vods even if not demonitized or considered mature content. Possibly doing the same for accounts that haven't passed age verification yet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfCrz4LRc0But while Rev's views have dropped like everyone else, his ad revenue has increased.He suspects it's not counting the lurkers not engaging in the content as viewers, but still counts the ads viewed.
>>104270206by culling non chatters while bots spam :kusaemote:
>>104265409YouTube went too far with the changes. There was an actual botting problem. But now the amount of shit you have to do to even have a chance of being counted as a view is ridiculous.
If it's Youtube's fault, then either they're forcing people to stop watching streams, or they're cracking down on bots. Wonder what it could be
>>104265409>doesn’t screenshot the actual post explaining the issue
>>104265409grim
>>104265594Anyone who thinks numbers matter does not like vtubing and also doesn't understand numbers
>>104265507Why are you retarded?
It’s bots, you fuckers seriously expected the bot crackdown to not affect everyone including your precious vchuba?
>>104278276true, first world viewers obviously matter more to youtube because their ad value is infinitely morei wouldnt put it past youtube to just count designated poor people as less viewers because its the advertisers who are the ones who care about viewership to begin with
