worth it for me. it’s good not having cumpedos in stream chats and at events

>>104326723
>average of 2.5 streams a week
>free of corpo shackles
>no more idolshit, just stream
yes?

She actually streams now, has fun and doesn't need to suck Yagoo cock anymore. I think the answer is obvious.

>>104326723
>no blue middleman parasite sucking the profits
absolutely

>>104326723
>Actually happy
Yeah I would say it's worth it, holofag.

>>104326723
if you track her streaming time its still on a downward trajectory. At the current rate she will graduate AGAIN in one or two years.

The reality is she is unbelievably rich. She literally won at life. Where do you go from that. Its why the most hardworking streamers are in the medium range of decent views, decent rewards. enough to see the reward but not enough to truly quit. OR you just be japanese and believe work is your sacred duty

>>104326723
Why does anyone watch this insincere, boring, ironic weeb? She's hardly entertaining

>>104327408
Because lolicons are literal braindead pedophiles who will slobber over anyone or anything as long as it looks like a Loli. Absolutely 0 standards.

>>104326723
>old model pic
Still coping, I see

>>104326768
uh...based...questionmark

>>104327408
>>104327977
holoseethe

She actually seems happy to stream and do stuff now, so yes.
>>104327977
Lolitubers are a dime a dozen. Saba's actuslly talented.

>>104326723
>streamed a game for 6 hours because she was having a lot of fun

Yes, it was worth it.

>>104326723
she actually streams now so yes

>>104326723
i guess she is only avenger to make it work
doob continue to be just as lazy
and nimi somehow just burn her own bridge
her actually streaming is kinda surprise to me
i imagine she would just show up once a month to milk member

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>>104326723
>Already a 4 view shitter getting mogged ber her colleagues
She'll be right above Nimi on charts like these in a month.

Death to Hololive

The replies ITT... At least make it less obvious, man.

>>104330057
She will. We've been through this many times. She knows what she's doing.

>>104330108
>###
Where is the joy in your life

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>>104326723
She feels too lonely now. I can't watch her anymore.
Hololive gave her a social environment, it's not the same (pun unintended).

>>104330526
This is the main reason I get sad over graduations. I don't give a shit about corpo vs corpo vs indie but some of my favorite moments are just friends shooting the shit. That's why so many people were fans of SNOT.

>>104326723
>the only person that matters leaves
>hololive self-destructs
Yeah I'd say so

>>104326723
She's a lot happier now, and I'm happy when she's happy.

>>104326887
Moot point until she starts making more money than she did as Gura.

>>104331096
>Moot
Who? I don't care about your fucking ecelebs.

>>104326723
i watch her every now and then but i will withhold my judgement for about a year, as gura it took a year for her to become inactive so its way too soon to tell

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>>104330751
Explain the gigantic crowd at the 8th anniversary celebration?
I guess "no saba no buy," was bullshit.

>>104327977
im political and lolis are my politics
total loli world domination

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>>104327977
>will slobber over anyone or anything as long as it looks like a Loli
Yeah and?

>>104326723
Yes.

>>104327408
Sunk cost fallacy

>>104330751
The only self destruction has been Nimi lmao

>>104327408
I enjoyed her karaoke a few years back

>>104326723
She streams.

>>104330751
Two more weeks

>>104326723
She's finally happy again. You can tell that she feels so liberated now that she doesn't have the pressure of being the mascot of a massive multi-national corporation and the global face of corpo vtubing crushing her alive anymore.

>>104326723
I don't care about Saba, I just wanted to thank (You) for not starting with that retarded "Now that the dust has settled" line.

>>104333103
It's not that at all. She can manage the stress, but she couldn't deal with how scummy Cover was after the IPO. She cannot be bought with money either and is a bit of a moralfag, essentially ditching Nacho for two new artists in order to help as many people as possible.

>>104326723
Is she happier? Literally the only metric that actually matters.

>>104330267
Anon this is the only joy in their lives. It's not like they watch any of the streams they numberfag about.
The only times they get any form of seratonin is when they hit the "Submit" button.

>>104331763
>Jp event
literally doesn't matter and besides gura dominated that market too

>>104327180
I think it's too soon to extrapolate that far into the future.

>>104330592
>just friends shooting the shit
*coworkers being forced to interact with each other

>>104335764
NTA but here's my completely unbiased and unsupported rrat.
She's gonna spend the next few months still getting used to streaming again before finally building up enough courage/loneliness to reach out to other streamers. Her viewership would likely decay a bit, but she'd finally be in the ballpark of being able to collab with girls like Laimu, Doki, ShyLily, Filian, whatever. (size-wise. Not talking about whether or not she'd do it)
Then at some point next year, Doki does a big concert, needs indies to fill up slots, and Saba gets roped in after Dooby, using that as her way in to start actually making new friends and connections. A few months later she has her own friend group to work with (or she just joins the growing circle around Doki and Mint) and that's that. She's a fully integrated large indie, likely still on top by a solid margin, but now has people to work with and actual connections to the scene.
And this will happen before 2027. Grudgepost this because I sure as hell won't remember I made it.

>>104330138
Why won't you say death to phase?

>>104326723
no. she will return

>>104338139
Probably, just gotta dangle that Miku collab in front of her. She's never getting that as an indie.

>>104327977
All the seethings on this post only proves the point

>>104326723
It has to be since the stopped streaming for the last 3 years in Hololive.
She debuted when vtubing was still pretty small and in the west almost non-existent. She originally was only really expected to be a streamer. But when Cover went all in on Idol stuff and she started having to spend months in Japan and travel multiple times a year, it became a completely different job.

Whether you think that change is good or bad is up to you to decide.

>>104326723
It depends on whether you are faithful to a brand or the talent,
Glad my oshi isn't giving most of her revenue to an ingrateful corporation.

>>104326723
Man you guys are soem console warring faggots. Even out here vandalizing the vtuber wiki doing shit like saying gur about salome's record despite not doing shut at all. Vtuber fans are some cultist retards man. Well,gives em an excuse to add every vtuebrs irl accounts to their wiki page of blatantly being retarded is allowed on there now.

>>104326768
lol she streams once every 5 days

she isnt paying a fortune to create songs and content management refuse to release to manipulate her so yes

>>104339755
Better than once every 5 months like when she was in Hololive.

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>>104339755
More like every 3. And even if you weren't lying out of your ass, it's still 50 times more stream than we got from her in hololive.

>>104327977
Truth nuke air burst over a civilian population

>>104326723
Yes, since her model actually conveys expressions now

>>104339755
Can't say I ever saw a screencap where she hadn't streamed for 5 days, it was normally 2 or 3.

>>104326723
I haven't watched her since her debut but she seems happy so probably.

Is she autistic or just insincere? Watching her I get the overwhelming feeling it's one of those two

>>104327408
I don't know. I've never been a fan of her since day 1. Kind of irks me how someone so boring and vapid got so popular

>>104326723
Saba loli cunny

>>104348913
Blame others for being more boring and vapid.
Even during her absence, no one stepped up. She gave others many chances to become the new face of Hololive before she left. Mighty gracious of her.

>>104348913
Just goes to show how tasteless a lot of people are.

>>104338658
????
Dude you can just rent her. It just costs a few dozen grand. Ike blew up his bank account to get her on his 3D stream.

I genuinely want to understand what her problem was in Hololive that she is suddenly free from, cause she could've been streaming like this once a week playing the games she's doing now. Its literally no different than what she was like, but now she lost the company and potential collabs and concerts etc. There's nothing to look forward to now, which explains why her numbers have been dropping drastically since people finally figured out she's a grifter

>>104349027
Looking forward to a Saba and Miku collab.

>>104349065
She got tired of management pestering her to join events every once in a blue moon. Too much work for her.

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>>104349070
It's probably chump change for her, too.

>>104327408
t. braindead subhuman
being weeb nowadays is very lame if you know anything

>>104349095
Lines up with the timing of ENreco 2, cause that was probably the gayest thing Hololive ever tried doing and Gura bailed out right before it lmao. And the fact that they did a season 2 for it, god such cringe. I had more fun watching the JP minecraft fishing event than anything the EN rp gay shit had

>>104349065
Hololive EN management censors her just like how they are censoring Biboo now. Notice how they don't have equal rights such as having a lewd daki nor even a drop of sultriness in their Voicepacks/ASMR, but of course others are allowed to. I would also leave a shitty company who does that shit to me by principle.

>>104349095
>>104349191
This is such a management shill post ignoring the fact that the management is the issue in the first place. It's not only her complaining about the management but others who graduated too, even in JP. The more egregious part is that they are willing to let their talents shill DEI politics, but when it comes to anything the woketards would hate like lolis, the management forces them to censor themselves and blocks any merch related to it.

>>104349338
But what is Saba doing now that she couldn't while in Hololive, yeah her model is more revealing but she hasn't released a daki or lewd mousepad or whatever that was supposedly getting blocked in Hololive

>>104349169
>muh performative guilt
you're a retarded whitoid who should kill yourself

>>104349448
Chill, it's only been a month. Do you expect her to release merch every 2 weeks? If anything she's still trying to adjust in her streams trying to remove the old self-censorship habits. Yes now we see her being a lot more open and revealing, but now she'll need to build her brand again. What's the point of trying to sell merch if she has no connections? She willingly cut ties with Hololive, even if it earns money, for the sake of unshackling herself from their censorship and hypocrisy.

>>104349574
Holofags and their shills only see their talents as cashcows for Cover, so ofc they only care about how much money they could generate for Cover
They would lick the boots of Cover both literally and metaphorically because that's just how cucked they are
They love being cucked by Cover and the management more than the talents themselves

>>104349574
I mean she clearly already planned all this out way before officially leaving, you can't just redebut that fast with debut merch and a new model and everything ready to go that quickly. The problem is that now that she's indie, she has no motivation or anything keeping her going which she clearly didin't even have while in a company. Yes its only been about 2 months, but people were saying the same thing about Kson and she ended up joining vshojo which look where that ended up. She also never really amounted to anything while being indie, so unless Saba is able to continually strike the iron then there was no point in leaving. What disagreements with management made her leave if nothing changed

>>104349191
I enjoyed enreco but I can see why Gura wouldn't want to be part of it.

>>104349688
She planned everything at the redebut, but that doesn't mean she planned everything that's going to happen a year from now. That also doesn't mean she plans to release merch every 2 weeks. You've moved goalposts saying she hadn't released what she was supposed to, to saying that she had everything already planned. It's unlikely Saba would join another corpo seeing how corrupt and black they have been, especially from her experience.

>>104349169
>>104349095
>>104349688
Massive holoshill apologist cope
Kill yourselves holoshills

>>104349729
I just hate rp shit in general, and the fact that it was in fucking minecraft and not even something more appealing to watch like GTA rp made it worse. Like really, compare ENreco to the absolute kino that was the HoloJP GTA event which at least was made entertaining by not creating cringe oc characters by management

>>104349772
>>104349817
She literally also trademarked her name, so obviously she's planned this shit out for a while. I really can't wait for the next year when nothing changes, and she starts to grief even more or god forbid do a Nimi lore drop to gain relevancy again. Fucking traitor whore

>>104349872
You're just talking out of your ass now. That doesn't change the fact that no one, not indie nor corpo, releases merch every 2 weeks, yet you're here trying to complain about something abnormal that she's not doing, saying she's trademarked her name as a shitty reason, as if that amounts to anything.

Are Saba antis really just this retarded?

It took 2 years for cover to release one fucking song.
Idol company my ass this shit is QVC online there is barely any singing and dancing going on and when it does happen it is one fucking song covered by 40 people over the course of a year.

>>104349928
Why do you keep on with this "releases merch every 2 weeks" argument, I never said that. That's all you attributing what I said about her not changing anything about her content or doing anything new that she couldn't do in Hololive, and automatically correlating it to merch

Yes they are, saba antis are braindead cucks who would lick the boots of cover's garbage management more than supporting their oshi

>>104326723
I mean she actually streams now so yeah I guess it was

>>104349972
That is literally you're argument complaining about what she's not doing and you keep moving goalposts. She had already a lot of things planned out as foundation, yet you already expect her to release merch that some indies or corpos would take 2 years to do. You're calling her a traitor whore simply for being a normal streamer. You're insane.

>>104339755
Yeah you're right, she should go back to streaming every 45 years

>>104330108
Nigga who fucking cares? When has popularity ever correlated with quality?

>>104350035
Then why doesn't she collab more often besides just ex-holos, why doesn't she collab with men like she used to or play dead by daylight or get back into rhythm games? She's a fucking lazy whore, by next year she's just gonna be another no name shitter grifter. Even fucking Nimi and Dooby have done 3D concerts while indie, why hasn't Saba had anything like that???

>>104350088
>Then why doesn't she collab more often besides just ex-holos
Who fucking cares. Stop collab begging. She can do whatever she wants.

>saba antis are literally the same homobeggars
like pottery

>>104350108
No, i'm not gonna just shut up and consume product. She left the golden goose job and has done nothing to show for it, doesn't upload meme songs anymore or even start swearing or drunk streams or anything

>>104350135
>Noooo she doesn't do le retarded corpo drone garbage nooo she's done for

>>104350154
Uh anon all that stuff she did before joining a corpo

>>104349928
>Are Saba antis really just this retarded?
All antis are retarded. You have to be extraordinarily mentally ill and impotent to be motivated by spite. Seriously how fucked does your soul have to be to dedicate so much time to someone else's downfall instead of your own success? The saddest part is they've deluded themselves into thinking anything they do will make any difference, so not only is it a lowly thing to fixate on, it's also a total waste of time.
It's kind of heartbreaking

>>104326723
>oh now she streams
>oh now she collabs
Fuck you, fish

>>104350135
No one is forcing you to "consume product". If she doesn't want to do shitty meme songs, it's her choice. She can't be forced by any corpo now. Do you think she enjoys drunk streams you retard? She did those things before as a meme, of which may or may not reflect her current mental status nowadays. You're again, complaining for something that she had not done before, despite the fact that she's still trying to adjust herself. Nobody cares about what you want. Antis like you are not the target audience. Feel free to stop watching instead of complaining and forcing her to do what she doesn't want.

>>104350231
She's a lazy traitor whore than went from streaming once a month to once a week, and hasn't even changed up her content at all lmao. Enjoy your pedo bait vtuber I guess

>>104350271
>muh ped*
kill yourself braindead westoid faggot

>>104326752
>>104327977
>>104350271
>unable to separate reality from fiction
faggots like you should be brutally beaten to death

>>104350328
Sorry anon but any normal person looking at a model like that will think its pedobait, no need to try coping about how she's not "real." Literally child proportions that she herself started self-censoring after debut lmao

HoloDEI garbage is the reason why you have holoshills here who conflate reality with fiction
That's what the woke virus does to your mind, and sadly Cover has been infected by it since starting their California branch
You now see holofags themselves calling you a pedo, despite their fanbase's hagfags had more egregious grooming scandals

>>104350356
nobody asked for your projection. kill yourself faggot

Protip: That saba "anti" is a phaseshill Larping as a "Corpodrone"

>>104350406
Biboo is a far better loli than Saba ever could be

>>104350429
Also notice how it doesn't forget to involve Biboo so that his narrative is pushed.

>>104350376
Funny how holofags call others' pedos when they themselves look just as much if not uglier than the pedos you see who get arrested. They can't help projecting by attacking lolicons, because them holofags are groomers coping

I wonder where these people get their numbers from. It's true she gets the 30%~ cover was taking but she also gets 80% less opportunities while being just as lazy and streaming just as little as before

Is this some elaborate plot to falseflag? Why are Holofags here acting like actual pedo groomers who hates loli?

>>104350061
>Nigga who fucking cares? When has popularity ever correlated with quality?
there's actually a whole thread of retards like that guy who shitpost over viewcounts all day, preferring stats and analytics to just watching streams they like. it's the fastest thread on the board most of the time

My honest opinion: I'm bored. Gura in her prime had more spunk and edge to her character. Saba feels like Gura lite when the expectation was "limiters released". While I do not loathe her because I'm a holofan, as some idiots like to insinuate, I do wish she tries to push boundaries a bit.

>>104350508
Because they (Holofags and management) are pedo groomers and they hire pedo groomers like Aqua's artist
Their discords are filled with disgusting child predators coping with the hagfaggotry pretense when in reality they share CP like that one Koronefag guy
They tried to groom a 14 year old and tried to blame it on Niji
They harassed a minor to try to get her to do sexual acts because she looked like Gura
The entire Holo fanbase is tainted with pedofaggotry that's why now they're attacking lolis and even blocking loli merch, both management and fans alike, as a form of overcompensatory projection

>>104350621
Let's not forget that Hololive also hired some of these girls when they were literally minors: Haachama, Shion, and a few others like Ayame/Suisei I think

>>104350621
Don't forget that they post actual CP in Kobo and Biboo generals while calling you a ped. It's NPC programming, their modus operandi

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>>104350621
thoughts?

>>104350621
>>104350667
>>104350673
What do you call this illness?

>>104350694
God Shion is so hot, and always has been!

>>104350697
Projection? I always notice that whenever someone tries to call someone a pedo for loli, they themselves most likely like 90% chance have seen CP or has CP

>>104350697
Why do Holokeks defend literal pedo shit, saw you fucks defending Aqua's artist about "separate art from artist"

>ITT Votomsfag hates Gundam.
>we are treated to mental illness.

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>>104350717
true and real

Holofags and their shills really can't help it can they

>>104350776
God just imagining her riding on top of me berating me for getting hard over her loli body, fuck dude

>>104350694
I like Roa better

>>104326855
saba needs to suck my cock instead

>>104350782
>shills
>as if Hololive needs shills.
Phasekeks really can't not project.

>>104350694
>>104350717
>>104350776
>>104350807
Why are Holopedos like this

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>>104350809
Roa's design is also great. She just needs more art.

What happened to Shion and aqua after hololive? i

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>>104350846
True

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I'm not falling for it, you anti.

>>104326855
once i had the thought that vtuber managers were pimps i've had the ick for organizations since

>>104350846
>>104350863
Foursome with Roa, Luka, and Sakuna

>>104350863
This body type is so fuckign hot fuck

>>104350869
Its not just corpos, indie managers are the same degends trying to groom streamers since they have "unique" access to them

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>>104350842
Pretty sure the reason is obvious.

>>104350887
And what exactly would you call that body type anon?

>>104350909
Young and fertile

>>104350916
true, imagine how tight she is

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So is this the thread?

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>>104350909
Is smug child a body type?

ermm why'd she make her new self even more... little?

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>>104350934
Does Gigi count owo

>loli posting
>thread and shitposting comes to a halt
Every time

It's like their kryptonite

>>104351018
Its really that easy huh

>>104350934
post Saba ass

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>>104351117
Damn kanzarin did Saba, she's so fucking based literally drew her fucking her vtuber daughter

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>>104326768
Gura the idol is what I want to remember. Its not going to be the same.

I would watch saba if she did loli ear licking asmr, or mesugaki brat asmr too. Just thinking about it makes me diamonds.

>>104326723
Obviously. I just miss her being able to do stuff with the other hologirls. As always I'm left with a burning hatred of corporations, especially those of the nip variety

>Yagoo is a silly name. I don't like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ_M9XHARm4?&t=4980

>>104326723
Absolutely, I didn’t watch Gura but regularly hop to Saba’s streams.