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Krew Edition
This thread is to discuss /vt/‘s very own Kiki.

>LIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f09J00qlasU

>Who is Kiki?
Kiyomi Pyon-Pyon, or Kiki for short is an adorable autistic Aussie chuuba. She's a wicked bright, and super sweet girl with a passion for animals and her champyons!
https://youtu.be/1vjStYtGkJs

>Carrd
https://kikipyonpyon.carrd.co/

>Merch (*NEW: Butt Mousepad, Keychains, Stickers,* Deskmat, Magnets, Coasters, JP Snack Pack, Tapestry, Standee, Daki)
https://shop.moso.moe/kiki-pyon-pyon/
https://weebe.net/kikipyonpyon/shop/
https://www.capippalisttradeguild.com/product/13x19-print-kiki-feet-rishartist-/264
https://www.capippalisttradeguild.com/product/9in-dakimakura-keychain-kiki-pyonpyon/263
https://diipoo.com/shop/kiki-daki/

>Danboorus, Aggie, & /i/ thread (Art/Fan Content)
https://pyon.website
https://booru.rabbalabs.com/
https://magma.com/d/IvDNuNCy7I
Previous Aggies: https://pyon.website/pools/1
>>>/i/723670

>Newest Cover: CloverClub - ゆうゆ (MV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpdu7yFk1tA

>ASMR Collection, Voicepacks, AI LoRAs, and Champ Fan Creations
https://rentry.org/7uqu8mvq

>/pyon/ Cytube (Community Watchalongs):
https://stream.rabbalabs.com/r/pyon

>Kiki Notifications RSS feed w/ instructions
https://rabbalabs.com/rss/feed.xml
https://pastebin.com/nGsaGEZh

>Misc. Rabbalabs links (timestamp tagger, VOD search, /pyon/ archive)
https://rabbalabs.com/tagger/
https://rabbalabs.com/vods/
https://rabbalabs.com/pyondex/

>/pyon/craft server
https://rentry.org/pyoncraftguide

>Recent Stream Highlights
https://youtu.be/Dbv_rR9I0sU
https://youtu.be/7I_7bcD3DvI
https://youtu.be/-yLIHG8xFVI
https://youtu.be/7SxJhJ24hh4
https://youtu.be/qPjxbdxcdXY
https://youtu.be/C5nVBPcTfeM
https://youtu.be/PBM4TyRtbXA
https://youtu.be/Yvb4x_QjBSo
https://youtu.be/axT4-cycuUM
https://youtu.be/RXOwh81MG2Y
https://youtu.be/9e8lTnXqeLg
https://youtu.be/_o8d_LuFBGM
https://youtu.be/VOC0tEQHqEA

>Clip channels
https://www.youtube.com/@ihatenamez/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@GeminiCricket/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@kikiclipsYT/videos

>Emergency Gosling Resources
https://pastebin.com/L3aSUSFa

>Related places
>>>/vt//freak/ >>>/vt//vrt/ >>>/vt//uoh/

>Last thread
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KIKI LOVE!
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Kiki Love!
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goodnight kiki n champs
this is me watching labyrinth with mah popcorn and slime like body
nini zuz
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>>104417274
goonight champ
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>>104417274
well at least wait until its finished, nini
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can't believe I missed her watching my favorite movie
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>>104417415
The vod will still be up
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that's me
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jennifer connelly is so hot
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I had the biggest crush on her in that movie when I was a kid.
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kiki has a bit of a baby face
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will you still do the stardew and snack thing on a different day?
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who is tea?
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`Movie end(-2820)
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`!Tetrio
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`!Tetrio(-1740)
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>>104418510
that time adjustment part is what scares me the most about timestamping... counting seconds, nails nails nails
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>>104418548
i just use a rough guess from the scrollbar to count mins then multiply into secs. nothing precise about it lol.
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`!End of day 1 yap(-600)
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`101% last of goals reached!(-480)
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that schizo has the chance to do the funniest thing ever
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>>104418701
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>Neppie! Ch4i! Turn the tv on! The hit the fucking stretch goal!
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>>104418701
be nise
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`!Outro
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>>104418902
they're going to canada!/10k
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>>104418902
10.3/10
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>>104418902
Joyous tears/10
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>>104418914
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haha kiki doesn't even need that loser schizo. The other katastudents donate way more than him.
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>>104419104
Just leave it champy shes moved on and said its all good
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>>104419104
Have you forgotten about Champ Unity?
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be humble, everyone
kiki love, champy unity. we need both or we get neither
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i wish one of the goals was all the katabasis girls getting koikatsu models...
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>>104419170
NTA but I can see how some other champs might be getting sick of that guy also constantly forgetting champ unity and assuming he's the main character all the time. Not going to shit on him because I do feel for him and hope things get better for him but it can be frustrating witnessing that behavior again and again, I hope he can get his shit together and be humble soon.
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>>104419296
as i said, everyone
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You insult one Champy you insult all Champys because we don't namefag and a lot of Champys are the kind of people to assume that any criticism is coming at them.
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>>104419377
Really not trying to insult him, I don't want him to leave or do anything bad I just want him to learn from this and stop making the same mistakes over and over. I understand he's getting it from a lot of people right now though so I won't keep going on
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>>104419481
yeah now the whole kata people hate me because kiki publicly humiliated me when I said in the message that it was personal and should not be read aloud
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>>104419564
they probably don't care, if they even know, and the alternative was for them to hate champs in general
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>>104419564
breathe champy, it's going to be ok. <3
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>>104419597 (me)
to be clear i don't like when she reads marros in public, i've said that before. there should be some sense of privacy when sending them. but still you did say in it something very much of public interest
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>>104419564
>hate me
i still dont know who you are, i doubt they could follow it well enough to know which user name you have either
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>>104419564
No they don't! This is what I mean, stop taking everything so seriously and acting like everyone hates you or you're a victim all the time, you're making things out to be so much worse than they are. It was the same before, assuming the other katagirls have some internal bias against champs or something with the donations, I can promise you they don't and it is 100% in your head, you're just convincing yourself of the worst case and making stuff worse for yourself.

Just acknowledge that yeah, that was embarrassing but it's not the end of the world and move on. I know you've been here long enough to know champs respect someone who improves themselves and learns from their mistakes, so quit catastrophizing ok?
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>>104419564
She wasn’t meaning to publicly humiliate you but you were talking about refunding a huge percentage of the money so she got scared that it was her fault and couldn’t not say it. They don’t hate you but I’m sure they weren’t okay with your actions. Just move on
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>>104419731
This. Champys like an improvement story. Best thing you can do is take a breather. The girls have done literally everything they can now, Kiki has apologized countless times and all the girls were clearly thankful for the donations. Please stop dampening this event with your own self victimisation. It’s supposed to be an exciting and happy time for everyone
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Champ Unity, huh...
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>>104419790
We are all being nice to him despite his actions and giving him advice. What’s the issue?
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>>104419731
>it was the same before, assuming the other katagirls have some internal bias against champs
that wasn't me
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>>104419790
Sometimes unity means telling your friends when they are wrong. You can do better than this champ, I believe in you.
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>something exciting happens for Kiki that she should be happy about
>some “champs” try to ruin it for her or make her feel bad for being happy or excited
Is this not emotionally abusive to her?
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>>104419790
I mean champs are being a lot nicer than I expected. I already know 1-2 champs hate my guts so I expected a lot more hate
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>>104419816
Ah ok my bad. Still, the bit about this not being the end of the world stands. And if anything that should just go to show that we're not all so great at identifying the source of each shitty thing that happens here.

You'll be fine, just try to learn from this and do better next time.
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>>104419821
This. We’d be a bad community if we didn’t tell each other how it is and we all lied to eachother about how we feel. I like the fact that we can all be open
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>>104419843
I mean it was more, why isn't kiki happy and excited
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>>104419843
that's not a very charitable interpretation. they were hurt and lashed out, which isn't good, but it's also not necessarily malicious behavior
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>>104419888
She is but some people don’t like that
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>>104419843
There are certain champs that I would swear don't see Kiki as a human at all and just see her as a way to fulfill their own needs. The lack of empathy can be stunning at times.
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I have definitely faced the browbeating for "embarrassing all Champys in front of the fans of the other girls" ... it's not fun. Just shut up about it and move on and everyone else will forget about it.
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>>104419843
yes, threats are very abusive. i can understand his feelings but not his actions. i believe he loves kiki but that doesn't excuse him
>>104419888
she was just trying to "do her job". she was acting out of duty towards the other girls and asking for more donations. it was not a slight against champs that already donated. that's the way i understood it at least, as her need to be productive.
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>>104419905
Yeah sorry I guess I’m hurting for her and lashing out myself. I just hope people can move on and enjoy the rest of the event.
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>>104419944
In that champ's defense I don't think any one champ is going to drag down the reputation of all champs anyway. We've all been interacting long enough that the other fanbases understand we're all individuals like they are.
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>>104419950
I saw it the same way. Remember this is for the group, Kiki is only getting a quarter if that
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>>104419988
I think the idea is for them to spend it collectively on group expenses, not just splitting it 4 ways and then treating it like normal donos. It will become "company funds" so to speak.
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on much better news i just bought the buttpad. dont forget to get it as well, or the other stuff too just because of the shared donothon happening at the same time
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>>104420041
i have so many bills... i need to ask kiki how long it will be for sale. if indefinitely i will 100% get it, if 1 month... i'll have to pray for some good luck
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>>104420041
Yay!

And yeah definitely don't neglect normal donations because of this since I don't think any of this money can go to Kiki's living expenses and stuff, it's for group projects
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>>104419988
And remember ... taxes
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>>104420069
Not saying people should make normal donations DURING the donothon either though since I think Kiki will feel pressured to throw it into the group pot anyway, just remember to save a bit for after for Kiki herself
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>>104420096
if it's split four ways would that reduce taxes?
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>>104420169
I don't think they are splitting it four ways
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womb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4YKAJo-LI
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presumably kata is incorporated? so they should be able to deduct a portion of their expenses from their taxes. not an accounting guy, so i don't how how much
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>>104420206
They aren't. It'll all be for group projects not for personal use
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>>104420271
Yeah I hope people remember this and don't assume Kiki's good for donations for a while since they think she's getting 1/4 of that personally when she's actually not
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>>104420114
This. if you want just Kiki to have any i'd recommend doing it the day after. She's struggling financially in her personal life so it'd help her
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>>104420268
Sll of them live in different countries do the taxes are going to probably need multiple accountants working in unison to figure out who owes who who mutch either way.
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>>104420335
That's not how it works, the business is only incorporated in one country
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i'm not sure they incorporated at all. i assume they have one treasurer and they're paying taxes as they normally do
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>>104420374
They only need to pay taxes individually when they get paid individually though. Otherwise it stays in the business and the business pays taxes
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>>104420393
yeah im saying only one of them is getting the money, and that one girl is going to spend it all (on what they all agree upon)
i could be wrong but they certainly haven't mentioned any business stuff
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>>104420348
Yes but if they ever wanted to take a cut then the business would have to pay a foreigner.
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>>104420419
In that case I hope they have at least set some ground rules about it since I involving money and trust like this can certainly test friendships
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nini pyon
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>>104420304
I don't know if I will ever donate to streamer ever again. this was a big reality hit
>You shouldn't place so much importance on people who will never see you as important no matter what you do. If they can tell you to just leave after thousands of dollars and countless days spent, then you shouldn't be worrying what they think of you. To them your presence is a casual and unimportant matter, so the same should be for you too, imo
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>>104421047
That was what Neppie said, literally Kiki said the opposite multiple times after the fact.
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>>104421047
Like literally what do you expect here? It feels like nothing they could realistically do would satisfy you. Can you yourself even put into words what an acceptable response would have been in your mind?
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im sorry i dont feel like i have been that active lately.. late to streams, waking up late, hard to pay attention at time. always tired.. lots of things going on at the moment too mainly dealing with family .. give me time, i should be back in a spot where i can be me.. just know that no matter what i love you kiki! ganbatte!
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>>104421639
>Can you yourself even put into words what an acceptable response would have been in your mind?
yes. don't say just leave, don't say we don't want you, don't say crazy, (neppie) don't say schizo, don't say weird, don't say not a champ,(kiki)
I don't like relitigating this but I have to answer because the solution was really easy.
all kiki had to do was say:
>sorry there was so much stuff happening at the time and I was tired so and didn't see the donation and the amount and I'm sorry about that champy I don't want you or anyone else to feel like they are being ignored with their donation. This event wouldn't have happened if not for all of you donating so much and caring about us. It's why I want to thank and make sure everyone who donates feels happy, and that they can see what they're investing in directly by seeing what we are all about with this fundraiser. So to show are gratitude for everyone who believes in us, I will go through and read some donation messages you all gave us and give thanks.
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>>104422015
The end part is essentially what Kiki said multiple times after the fact lol
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>mudskip
i herd u like mudkipz
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Who's up skipping their mud?
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>>104422015
Are you talking about after you'd already threatened her and hurled abuse at her? Bro she's a human being, and considering what you did she pretty much did do what you asked anyway, most of the stuff you're complaining about wasn't even her.
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>>104422466
Neppie was right though. She wasn't saying "you should leave" she said if you donated with implied expectations you shouldn't have donated. There's nothing wrong with that.
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>>104422350
>like
forshame
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i have no clue what any of this is about since i havent seen the vod, but donating is nothing more than an investment in the person youre watching. i like kiki, and kata, so i donate to them, cause i know they will do amazing things with that support.
>>104421047
if thats a hit then that might be some room for improvement. if you understand the relationship different then the other person or people in it, then its a misunderstanding, which becomes conflict. if youre not getting the attention or something you want out of a relationship, you cant force it, thats where that conflict comes from. just have to move on or get it from somewhere else. doesnt mean you have to leave, just find what youre looking for elsewhere.
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>>104422634
https://litter.catbox.moe/knd7ygb20y31zfbo.mp4
i knew it didnt look right ehhh
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>>104422466
no before when it was already resolved and kiki wanted to reopen it to call me a weird mean schizo
also
>threatened (wanting to refund)
>>104422549 (she did say to leave btw)
I agree generally with neppie that you shouldn't donate with ulterior motives but in my case all of what kiki and neppie had already said about me publicly in front of 200+ people I didn't really feel comfortable donating to people who want me to fuck off. It's like I give hundreds of dollars to be called a schizo crazy loser who should fuck off. And imo wanting to not be ignored doesn't equal some ulterior expectation. Again I would prefer if the topic would get dropped because it's obvious that no one here likes me anyway
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>>104422015
I don't want to continue any negative discussions, but I agree with this. It's so easy to avoid any bad feelings by just giving simple words of reassurance and gratitude, especially to people who literally subsidize your entire lifestyle of sitting around and playing video games all day. It's not hard by any stretch. It's what you are supposed to do as a basic principle of being an online entertainer. It's not hard, which is the most baffling thing to me. It's not hard at all and yet any basic criticism is met with a bruised ego, like her mother was called a whore or something, unwarranted tantrums and pity baiting. Just say you're sorry. You're not being abused by being expected to be nice to your donators, your heart is not gonna suddenly stop beating. How on God's earth, the first thing you say when your long time (paying) viewer is feeling let down, is to say "lmao get over yourself faggot. just leave if you don't like this lol. we don't owe you anything for your thousands lel", instead of a simple "I kinda get how you feel, but let me reassure you that you're appreciated and your contribution is immeasurable". It's not hard.
And don't try to blame this reply on that champ. I'm an old viewer who wanted to be here to cheer these girls on for couple days, but their utter ineptitude at keeping positive relations with their own donators is genuinely annoying. Retards can understand social relations better than these sociopaths. And spare me the self pity and perpetual victimhood. I've stopped caring a long while ago. I don't mean this in a completely serious way. I still wish these girl all the best, but it's hard to say only nice things when they act all retarded. God bless them though
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>>104423013
You weren't called a schizo crazy loser because you donated a bunch of money, you were called that because of what you did afterward. Take some responsibility for your actions here.

It's not about not liking you, you just keep doing shitty things. I think you're a decent guy when you're not doing these things, and I hope you can learn from your mistakes and stop making them so often.

As far as it being in front of 200+ people yeah that sucks but you didn't exactly leave her a lot of options to address it, and your threat of chargebacks made it seem like an imminent problem that needed to be addressed immediately. You really should have thought of that before you sent that maro in the first place. Obviously she's going to feel anxious if someone makes a threat like that and want to talk about it.
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>>104423039
She does always seem super thankful to donators though, that's why this whole saga is just completely baffling to me. It feels like some people want something more than that.
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big number over little number = faster than light speed
little number over big number = slower than light speed
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Also as far as

>threatened (wanting to refund)

I hope you're not trying to downplay what you did here. Chargeback abuse is literally a crime in most countries and incurs extra fees and potential other account restrictions on the victim. If you're telling your bank to charge something back because it's not legitimate when it was then you are committing fraud. Threatening a criminal act to get back at her for some perceived slight is not minor, it's fucked up and you should know better.
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>>104423083
> yeah that sucks but you didn't exactly leave her a lot of options to address it
kind of forgetting the part where I specifically told her in the message to not publicly read it out on stream because it was my private thoughts and I didn't want the attention or to be embarrassed. kiki must have missed that part and skimmed over it. Does any reasonable person expect me to want to donate after this? This breach of trust?
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>>104423269
So what was she supposed to do, just go through the rest of her stream with your threat silently hanging over her?
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Private thoughts would be "I'm feeling sad because you did this" not "I am going to do this bad thing to you because I'm upset", you lose the right to privacy when you do shit like that, god damn.
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>>104423243
no chargebacks for a service and product is a perfectly legal thing.
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>>104423282
Nta, but probably just type something in bread.
>>104423243
This almost certainly wouldn't have qualified as there were no goods/services rendered yet.
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>>104423315
It was not a product or a service and you know that. You are not buying anything from them, you are donating to them. What you are doing in the case of a streamer is actually not okay or normal and should be taken seriously. Of course she was scared
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>>104423269
so you are allowed to be parasocial and she isnt? that doesnt make sense..
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>>104423328
How are you going to get that chargeback though? I don't think most banks will do it if you say "I donated money and now regret it." And if you claim the donation was unauthorized to get them to approve it then you are committing fraud.
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>>104423340
uhhh
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>>104423328
I guess addressing it in bread might have been preferable, though I don't really blame her for not thinking of it in the moment since it was a sudden and emotional thing
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>>104423357
Do you see the word "donator" on there? You may want to google what a "donation" is, the answer may surprise you!
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>>104423355
ko-fi allows creator to customer refunds up to 180 days actually
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>>104423397
Oh, I actually didn't know that. That's a bit better than doing a bank chargeback I guess, though I still think it was shitty to hold that over her head.
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>>104423379
no western market considers streamer donos actually legal donations. It's why they still pay taxes on them
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https://voca.ro/1kLLSCPsMNnu
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>>104423454
Close the thread and go to bed!
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I will defend myself where I think I was right or at least show my side/thoughts when derided but I would still prefer if we dropped this. it will just make kiki sad and no one agrees with me anyway
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>>104423355
Basically he would need to request a refund from them. If they denied he can dispute through paypal. I think what would hurt them (Kata) is they have no refund policy stating something like "all donations are final."
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>>104423454
please just let me know whats gonna happen because my stomach has been hurting about it all and ive been scared because this has never happened before. I hope this and my past voca can add clarity to my perspective. I was trying my best to keep it together on stream but I wanted to burst into tears ever since I saw it because I dont wanna hurt anybody and it feels like im hurting champys and I dont want anyone to think I dont care. It makes me feel horrible and sick and gross. It makes me feel awful that someone may see me like that, let alone someone who supports me. I try my best and im sorry I wasnt good enough, I hope things can be more positive from now on. All is forgiven and I just want things to be happy
https://voca.ro/1j1nVE6X1yyk
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>>104423454
Kiki dont let this one guy one guy you. Go to bed. This has been the only hiccup to the whole event don't let it overshadow the rest of the amazing event.
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>>104423454
you dont deserve this, you've been doing your greatest to get this great thing out for us.
really hoping that we can all just celebrate the event as a fun thing, i've been trying to watch in on the other girls too just to show support and create a whole atmosphere for everyone
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>>104423580
I'm not trying to one guy or fish for attention. I want the topic dropped too. kiki should be alseep.
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>>104423603
well please reply and please understand im sorry
>please just let me know whats gonna happen
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>>104423603
I won't say anything more on it but please try to be more empathetic of her, your actions can be rather cruel sometimes. Even if you feel slighted somehow you need to remember she's a person too.
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>>104423552
you should go to bed kiki you have a big day tomorrow
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>>104423552
>>104423616
you should really go to bed but
>please just let me know whats gonna happen
will I refund? probably not
will I stay a viewer? probably (I spent 3 years watching so I can't waste all that time)
will a be champy? I don't know
will I be as active in the community? I don't know but probably not
will I still donate large payments like the canada trip, second monitor, mic stand, vitamins, charities, donathons, etc etc probably not
do I still like you? yes
do I still love you? probably
tldr I don't know because I am still coming down from wanting to kill myself again (not that's any of you or champs problem)
I just gave a simple bullet point because I don't think you or anyone else wants to or cares what even started this or the series of events.
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>>104423972
Honestly I think you shouldn't feel bad if you want to take a step back from donating for a bit. I appreciate what you've done for Kiki, and I'm sure she does even more so, but it should always be a voluntary thing and something you personally enjoy doing. You don't have to feel obligated to send money to be a champ or a husband, especially as it seems like there's some mental baggage associated with it right now. Just take it easy and if you feel like chipping in toward something later you can do it then, if not that's cool too. Ultimately remember that Kiki wants things to be fun and comfy for us, not something associated with a bunch of mental turmoil, so just try to have fun.
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Lets all just drop this please. Dude stop trying to keep talking about it if you are really embarrassed by it. We will forget and forgive Kiki will forgive and forget. You are the only one who keeps bringing it up
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>>104424057
I do want it dropped kiki wanted me to respond about the refund thing. it's dropped
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>>104424087
it'll be okay champy
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i woke up to this...
all i can say is congratulations, you snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. you donated so much, you do so much for pyon, and yet because you just can't control yourself and think ahead you've somehow found yourself in quite possibly the worst of all worlds. i guess suicide would be worse, thank god for that at least.

accept some responsibility here. you know who you're reminding me of now? pirate software. just fucking say you're sorry, and lurk. you don't have to really mean it, it doesn't have to be the whole story. just stop digging your own grave for a moment and let yourself the time to fucking think. tomorrow will be wiser. i swear its like you don't think tomorrow will even come.
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>>104424149
>yet yourself the time to fucking think
hard to do that when everyone is attacking wanting answers and kiki is saying she won't sleep until I explain what happens next. I don't fucking know
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IGNORE IT, WERE SO CLOSE TO BEING DONE. it seems like everybody can handle this situation better in the future, right? let's try to do that, then. conclusion: we must all love kiki, NOW!!
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a reminder of what this thread is meant to be about
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I've just seen the news. I can't believe they've assassinated Mikan...
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washing himself on public transport, what a shameless hobo rab
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to clear the record on what neppie said
I don't think she said that. you are twisting her words

>frick your money we don't need it! frick you!
>nope... nope..............nope
>you shouldn't donate if you are wanting to refund
>be responsible with your money before you give it out
>it's not your fault because he is just craaaazy (laughs)
>you can't fix him, you can't fix him (laughs)
>If it was any of us it would be the same. It would be like. It would be like what you are meant to do. You know.
>You are always nice and kind and respectful, and if he feels like he is not getting enough, then why did he even donate? The donations are for are goals, not his praise~?
>kiki obviously cares because she is giving YOU the time of day when you don't deserve it. (laughs)
>I don't know if that guy he here or listening. Just please have kindness in your heart. kiki is a girl trying her best all the time. You don't need to be rude to her. and if you feel like she is not good enough for you?... well... pfft. You don't deserve her anyway.
>Just don't defend irresponsibility. If you are gonna expect more something more in return.
> There's lots of people donating. They is lots of people here. It's not just you.
>You need to have some awareness in your life.(laughs).... Please... (laughs)
>So yeah. I hope everyone can understand.
>And... You know it might be hard to notice things, Cuz we are trying to keep things going..
>But, you know...We don't wanna stick around for one thing for too long...
>But everyone will get a thank you at the end, definitely. And all the reward will come in the end.
>You know?
>And yeah, don't send marshmallows to kiki if you are gonna be rude.(laughs)
>Yeah, don't be a pussy(laughs)
>Say it in the chat, say it in the chat.(laughs)
>Well, maybe don't say it in the chat, maybe don't say anything at all.(laughs)...(wheezing)...
>But, yeah...
>I don't think he is trolling, I just think he is a little silly.

This is a full unedited transcript of what she said, whether you are pro or against. This is what she said.
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more, MORE, MORE RABS!!
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Fine
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>>104425225
i wouldn't have donated if i heard this
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>>104426821
Yeah, refunding would be a shitty thing to do.
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So we were talking about pooling donos for a cover.
Here is the list of songs we had
>>104403544
Does anyone want to add or veto anything on this list?
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Mikan wants a Kiki shirt like the one WeBee made (-20)
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>>104426732
i was going to tell her to go to sleep already until i saw the date
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let me doom
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>>104427696
No! Get happy get happy get happy we are gonna make it!
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>>104427808
It's feeling real sweet baby angel around here today
>his bank account was RAPED
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>>104427954
I really hope that champ doesn't go down a similar downward spiral because despite what he says I generally do like him and think he's a good guy when he isn't trying so hard to sabotage himself.
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I'm back from work, I hope everybody's day was ok. Remember to be humble, remember to forgive, remember we all have pain and baggage we bring into this relationship from outside of it, and that we're gonna hurt each other a little bit sometimes, but we're still a family. I hope kiki and her friends are doing well, I hope champs are doing their best.

We're all still here today, and still here tomorrow.
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nini
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>>104430084
Nini, dont let the bed bugs bite.
God bless your heart
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bless you all, champs and I hope to see every single one of you here tomorrow. remember, even if it doesn't feel like it, someone out there cares even a little bit
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What would Kiki do (-30)
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>>104430788
You need to include the ` if you want the timestamper to pick it up, like

`What would Kiki do (-30)
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>>104427808
me directly in the middle not sure about anything going on whatsoever
it seems complicated as always
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>>104431306
Any time things seem complicated, I just shrink my brain two sizes and get extra humble, and it all works out.
kiki love, champ love.
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>>104431569
Champy... Can your brain afford to shrink that much?
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>>104430943
I was more joking than anything, I dont think it works for Neppie's stream
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>>104431762
It should work actually if anyone ever wanted to, it just needs a youtube stream or VOD to use as a point of reference but it doesn't specifically check that it came from Kiki's channel or anything.
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Hey, Champs. I decided to buy a couple lottery tickets today for the first time in my life, and most likely the last time. Wish me luck.
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>>104431608
when my brain becomes a singularity, all time and all movement will cease. I will become eternal champ, unbound by the disparity resulting from entropic existence.
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>>104432514
Best of luck, friendo
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oh fug, did I really miss the Labyrinth watchalong?
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>>104432715
Yeah..
But it's in the vod, so you can watch it with her and nep anytime you want
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>>104432961
I will. I'm not upset with anyone, of course. It was a good time to finally do it. Just bummed out that I've missed so much lately due to real life.
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>>104433044
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FUCK, I was half paying attention and heard the Valve game startup sound and talk about playing games with you guys. I made the leap that they were playing TF2 with fans. They are just playing L4D with each other
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Do you think Hexa will join Katabasis?
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i wonder if anyone will join, actually. kiki has mentioned that its difficult to get work done through a lot of people since theyre really only looking for work from groups or corps. i guess ive always thought of kata as their gateway to that, besides showing their in it for real and for the long run
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So is it safe to assume clover corp is closing down?
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>>104434589
I think this group formed specifically because these 4 trust and like each other a lot, so they may want to keep it that way for a while rather than bring people in who might not necessarily vibe as well with everyone
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>>104433628
I wonder, I wonder. Even if she got associated I doubt we'd hear what happened.
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>>104425225
what a bitchy way to respond
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>>104436377
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>>104437163
The idolkiki in the bottom middle ToT
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Im off tomorrow
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>>104437163
thats so lovely and sweet, something nice to wake up to
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>>104438205
*squeaky noises*
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when day is hard
remember
kiki love, champ unity

day is bright.
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>>104438589
gigi glove
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What's the total amount raised so far?
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>>104438684
~10.6k USD
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>>104439699
Yeah, but the situation's over, best not to continue rehashing it
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Ok, got it.
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Any updates on Papapyon? Been away for a while but I don't want to bother Kiki about it during stream.
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>>104439898
not in general, i assume its just ongoing until further notice
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Phronesis is an ancient Greek concept referring to practical wisdom, or the ability to discern the right course of action in a specific situation and act appropriately. It involves good judgment, excellence of character, and a capacity to balance general rules with particular circumstances. Unlike theoretical knowledge (episteme) or philosophical understanding (sophia), phronesis is focused on navigating daily human life and is rooted in the moral and intellectual virtue of knowing "how to do the right thing, in the right place, at the right time, and in the right way".
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LIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4YKAJo-LI
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`!Kiki on the telly|Zatsu
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`Gigi answered the call(-40)
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`Plan for today
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`Small papapyon update(-120)
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`Irresponsible rabbit owners(-100)
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Guess where I went this week???
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>>104440782
no flippin' way...
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>>104440782
KIKI ITS CORN PALACE LOOK
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dork souls after so long...
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>>104440782
champ you shoulda told me
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I didn't take a picture of cornelius on this trip :(
I think I have another photo somewhere from the past
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`Champy went to Corn Palace(-120)
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`Lore of the corn
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OK I found the photos I took last time
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Why are these all coming out sideways?
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>>104440987
>>104441055
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`Cornelius the patron saint of fertility(-260)
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`A wild Neppie appears(-30)
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>>104425225
What a shitty person
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>>104441173
What's the matter, no /uoh/ to bother so you decided to shit things up here?
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>>104441209
dont respond to shitters
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Who is flatter Kiki or Neppie?
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>>104441435
Haven't got much info on how flat Neppie is, so I gotta go with Kiki
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`Various food discussion(-600)
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>>104441435
cant divide by zero or something
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are there many vegetarian or vegan champies?
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Quick someone make basedjak versions of all the katabasis girls
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>>104441488
checked
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>>104441488
I'm not sure honestly, though considering Kiki's vegetarian I wouldn't be surprised if some champs tried it
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`A wild Ch4i appears
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>>104441488
Im a pescetarian but only eat fish a few times a week.
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`Poop box(-120)
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>>104441512
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>>104441571
Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Champies are cool.
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>>104441665
You're cool too, friend
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i eat trash
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`Minesweepers(-150)
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`Ch4i brainrotting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OFoSCo9wgw
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I eat canned beans and chili almost exclusively.
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guess i can make another of these depending on what they do today
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`!co-op Dark Souls time
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`Lemming Kiki
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`Ceaseless Discharge
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>>104442300
Me when I'm in the same room as Kiki
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`M'lady
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>>104441736
based trash eater. very humble
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`"It's traverse, not transverse"
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`Neppie's tree uncle(-60)
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`Demon Firesage
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`!Thank you card
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>how are you doing
i got approved for the apartment but they pulled a fast one. it was supposed to only be a 3 month lease and that would have left me with half my money left to find a job and stuff like that but now they are saying its going to be 6 months which means i wont have much left at all. i dont how i am going to figure it out.. but other than stressing about that im doing good
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>>104443919
im glad someone else noticed
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44444444444444 hi i dont know how to use this ... i dont know where i am in some sort of strange abyss of champs but i know some of you are not in the discord or even on twitter who knows. i can understand the feeling - i know you may be feeling unwanted or that your efforts were not enough. they were. they were more than enough. they were life changing. i want everyone to keep in mind that this is all extremely overwhelming for everyone not just us but you guys too. and i am deeply sorry if you have been made to feel like your donations were not enough. its a bit tricky (we cannot see the donated amount until after - we can only see the donation and the message if we sift through) but even so im so sorry if we couldnt make you feel appreciated. i know its scary donating a whole lot to your oshi. but in this situation its just a bit different,, because there is an event going on, the best we can do in the moment is give you a thank you very very much! and we feel it in our hearts ; ; that warm feeling that someone believes in us, personally i know i was jittery, shaking and sweating through each donation! we are BEYOND grateful. you are enough and you always will be, to kiki and to us. i promise you that your efforts will be reflected on, we see your donos we wont forget them and we will do everything we can to make you feel noticed and important. . . ESPECIALLY AFTER the donothon. through all of our goals, our rewards but also our concert and how we choose to express our gratitude (thank yous, cards, posts, etc.) i am once again deeply sorry that you were made feeling unwanted. we are forever grateful for you. you are enough! we are shocked from large donations its hard for it to really feel real... knowing that so many doors have opened for us because of you. $1000 towards living expenses is a quick feeling of (oh my goodness i can pay for rent) but $1000 for future projects may not fully sink in until we are actively in the moment realizing (oh my goodness we can fund this ! we can make this happen! because of the katastudents). but that doesnt take away from your feelings of distrust or unwantedness. i came in here because i wanted to thank all the champs that may not see other thank yous out there on other platforms... but after reading i wanted to do my best to explain and emphasize. seriously thank you, we care about you, kiki cares about you. ok? you are not just a number or a price tag. donating that much money is INSANE i cried over it. you just arent seeing it in the moment, and thats okay. your feelings are valid. itll be ok! kiki forgives you and we can move forward from this. i seriously mean it. i hope you can believe me and my words. you mean so much to us and so much to kiki. so thank you, thank you, thank you! we are so grateful. i am very grateful. and we and i am sorry we couldnt make you feel that way in the moment. <3 4444444444444444 -from miss poo.
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>>104444102
thanks for stopping by miss poo and thank you for the humble words. im just glad i can help you and kiki and the other silly girls follow their dream
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>>104444102
thank you for being a good friend to kiki
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>>104444102
Humble. Thank you for being so understanding.
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Thank you so much for being a brilliant friend to Kiki and Champs
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<---the weakest champ
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>>104444102
Thank you miss poo! I feel appreciated.
Neppie should take notes.
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>>104444710
Pretty sure that was Neppie
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>>104444791
That is ch4i.
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`offset 20
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>>104444710
you HAVE to kill your self
you just have to really
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Humble champs know not to respond to the Neppie anti, he'll run along back to /uoh/ sooner or later.
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>>104444879
yeah, i'm a tourist, and even i knew better. champies are based. i wish i could be one
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`Pepper has a new home waiting(-220)
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>>104444982
i've probably got too much ego to be a champy. i just leave a wake of destruction and carnage. it's probably better if i just drop by from time to time.
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>>104445072
I managed to shed mine a long time ago.
Equality is the game here, and we're all pals
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>>104445072
Well, feel free to drop by when you feel like it, there's always a warm spot and a mug of Kiki's Kiki waiting for you in rabbitville
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>>104445126
it's such a commendable trait. it's what draws me here. champies are so good to one another. if i wasn't in love with (her) i'd love to /here/. you guys are all wonderful.

even now, though, i feel like i'm making everything about (me)
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Baker?
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`Prettiest princess in all of Rabbitville(-330)
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`Champoo on da card(-140)
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>>104445126
the paradox of the champ is that we've been pals for years, shitposting daily, playing games, we've (You)'d each other thousands of times, yet at the drop of the hat a champ is shat on
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>>104445632
Friends aren't afraid to tell friends when they've done wrong. Doesn't mean you're not a friend or a champ, just that you did a bad thing and need to do some self reflection.
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>>104445220
champies just ignored me! sugoi! what strength. i'm going to start training too champies! i want to be champy too :3
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>>104445670
that's not quite it, i'm speaking of real cruelty. on my part, i've been through long times of processing it and thinking about it whether i was out of line, on your part it was a kneejerk lashout and never thought about it again.
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>>104445700
Well I don't know what you're talking about then. Like this is an anonymous thread so I can't guarantee someone who was here at one time or another wasn't cruel to you, but it's a bit silly to generalize all champs based on that one bad experience which may not have even been a champ to begin with. Like anyone can post here and we're no stranger to shit stirrers trying to blend in or false flag. If you truly did experience cruelty due to no fault of your own then it was almost definitely one of those.
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>>104444102
whoever you are good luck and shine on!

which of you fellows rampled
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>>104445744
you still don't understand the dynamic at play here, if i explain myself then i become the stirrer, the problem to be barked at. the cruelty was not some one or few freak posts. this is my third reply on the topic and it's already raising hairs on the back of peoples necks like i'm gonna be a problem and in the minority and automatically crazy. were you ever bullied at school? ever have one-on-one discussions with your bullies and they were alright and you got along enough? but when they're in a pack they make you into an effigy.
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>>104445700
but did you rample?
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>>104445958
Then just drop the topic.
You don't have to explain yourself.
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>>104445958
Well, I can't say more without knowing the specifics but maybe it would be better not to go on about this during Kiki's stream anyway. Regardless you're always welcome if you want to participate and be humble, I'm sorry that something has made you to feel otherwise
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>>104445958
Go into the new thread with a clean slate.
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>>104445997
the pretenses sometimes irk me just enough for a little reply.

>>104446019
i'm ready for the salad dressing and i don't intend to keep it up.
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>>104445958
you know what've you done, you're not innocent. ive personally never attacked you, but you've burned any good graces i may have had.
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>>104446087
You're the one that keeps splashing fuel on the fire that I'm trying to put out. KYS
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do Aussies say 'spare a fag' or do they get arrested for that?
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>>104446087
that's a fascinating reply and i wonder how far back you kno or rember.

>>104446104
nah i'm not burning, i'm but a pile of ash that's stuck in the corner somewhere.
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>>104421047
>>104423039
>>104436377
This.
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>>104430084
goo evening champoos
>>104444710
not me
>>104445755
me
>>104445958
>>104445700
not me
>>104446087
that's not me
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>>104446684(me)
just to let you all know there seems to be an obvious shitstirrer/champ skinwalker
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>>104444102
thanks ch4i
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>>104446684(me)
btw kiki please eat. I know I'm the reason you didn't eat dinner during the labyrinth watchalong. I gave you that pit in your stomach, your bad feeling. I would be really happy if you ate something.
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I don't want you to punish yourself on my behalf. that just makes me feel awful. please eat. and if you really want to punish yourself so much then can the punishment be eating food even though you don't want to?
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>>104446684
>>104446716
>i don't understand what's going on
>it must be about me
c'mon champ, other people can feel things too
and why dis musty bread still up
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>>104447316
idk people seemed to be referencing the "rample champ" and I think that's me
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>>104444710
I also didn't want champs or kiki thinking this is me
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>>104447316
>and why dis musty bread still up
I don't want to stink up the new bread
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>>104444710
imagine being this much of a narcissistic asshole that you don't understand that all neppie said was just to protect her friend kiki, supposedly our oshi, from someone actively shitting on her and making her sad. have some fucking perspective.
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neppie did nothing wrong



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