>2 view>almost $400 for a video and a 2 hour call>rigger and artist info locked behind paywallwho pays for this?
>>104448869You have the choice, it's either this or the boyfriend
does she want a manager or does she want the manager jobpeople will do it for free
Buy an ad with that monthly subathon money lulu
>>104449100I think she's saying you have to pay her to be her Simp #1
>>104449100this is a manager offering a service
At first I thought this was a ludicrous amount to pay someone for the position but if she is going to do that full time...that's below minimum wage in America.No one wins. She's charging way too much for what a Vtuber manager can provide and she's not charging enough to live on.I don't like it.
>>104449233she does a subathon every month lmao
>>1044492332 hours of support call a month is full time?
>>104448869You underestimate how desperate the ocean of 0 and 1views is
>>104449233>going to do that full time>she's not charging enough to live onIt's the alpha male coaching scam but with vtubers on it instead.What she offers in time is less than a day's work over a whole month. It's not a manager it's an overcharged coach/consultant.She can manage 10+ people at the same time, without putting almost any work into it.
>>104449233Anon, managing a vtuber is easy compared to most higher end corpa jobs.You can probably juggle between 5 and 10 chuubas with enough time to spare for crisis management when one of those whores bfs get leaked
>>104448869Management is not a scam (not counting hollywood and the music business), scammers pretending to be manager is a scam.
>>104449386>>104449391Looks like my initial reaction was right.Well, if people are paying for it, I'm not sure how it'd help them but go for it I guess.I'm just thinking if I put money down for this kind of service I'd expect thumbnails, art widgets for the model and advertising which the last one especially is extraordinarily time consuming because you're competing against every other business on Earth.Might as well make a small corpo out of it if you're trying to manage people.
>>104449233Even in Hololive a Manager has 2-3 Talents. It's not uncommon for Manager to have a bunch of Talents then it works out. They are not there to babysit the talents but to make sure they get good opportunities.
>>104448869Why would another vtuber pay for this instead of just asking their boyfriend?
>>104448869>Flat fees over a percentageFuck that. You want managers to have skin in the game. If they're incompetent/lazy, they get paid less, acting as an incentive to actually try. Flat fees get you a manager that does the bare minimum to not get fired.
>>104450066Predebuts think twitter follows = clout so they will literally pay people to be able to connect with them. Unfortunately the lesson will come too late for them when they realize this girl is a 2 view that can do nothing for them. All Lulu does is tweet engagement bait to hook predebuts.
>>104448869The thing is in the entertainment industry the only reason to have a manager is to get someone who with connections who's able to get you access to more opportunities like con appearances or collabs.You won't get the from this nobody.
>>104450187Well said, management is a connections and who you know game with a little control freak on the side, indie vtuber management is just the control freak dialed up to a 100+ and you get to pay for it.
What are her qualifications?How many subs does she have?How many viewers?What noteworthy collabs has she had?What sponsorships has she had?What conventions has she been guest at?What concerts has she done?What venues has she performed at?
>>104449386tbf it could help if you are completely clueless about vtubing and just starting out and just hire her for 1-2 months400-800 bucks for advice when you are starting out at anything (if the advice is decent and you get a couple of contacts out of it) is not horrible
This girl is the buzzfeed of vtubing. Nobody cares.
>>104451343$800 for 4 hours of consultation from someone who is a 2 view? Sure if it was a 3 view I would give the benefit of the doubt but this is obviously someone who is struggling to make ends meet as is doing something she claims to be a professional at.
>>104451218I dont know anything about her but would love to know as well
>>104451343That or you could be groomed by a 3-4view by being new, cute and vulnerable.
>>104451218>What are her qualificationsShe has been doing this for 4 years>How many subs does she haveShe does subathons every month >How many viewers~100>Noteworthy Collabs?None>Any big sponsors?NopeI took a quick look give or take but it seems all she does is post "haha relatable vtuber meme" and "let me raid you" tweets
>>104451577bro doesnt even appear on conventions, useless
>>104451379i mean pay 350 bucks, if its great, pay for a second month, if its not you spent half of a week of rent to get a couple of contacts and some generic advice that might've taken you a few months to get if you are a newbieNot saying its an amazing deal or anything, but i could see it being alright if you are not a complete poorfag at the start. The internet is forever afterall and if it spares you from a boyfriend yab or something like that ("what's hololive? soun ds like slavery to me" or "trumpft sucks") it could unironically pay off
>>104448869Why not have a guy that have been a vtuber viewer for 5+ years?>support calls whenever you like>24/7 confident boost and menhera management>They pay for all your stuff>They keep taps on your calender>Have your choice of artist, rigger and editor because they are willing to put in the money for youHow I know some men are willing to do that? I did that as a hobby.
She is a vtweeter that seemingly hasnt accomplished much as a vtuber herself. Should she consider hiring a manager?
What the fuck is this? She made a form so people can apply to hire her? I don't think that's how job hunting work.
>>104451661Her sole selling point is that she's doing this fulltime. I would feel bad but she's constantly complaining about how hard it is to be an indie vtuber. Some people do this while working full time so what's she complaining about?
>>104451657Yes it's findom related, no I didn't ask for sex, or nudes in return.
>>104451658You don't understand, anon. She has been doing this for years, so she's practically a pro. Give her money so you too can survive off scraps and beg for money too.
>I am such a successful full time vtuber with great advice to give that I want you to hire me to be your full time manager because being a full time vtuber isnt working outodd
How does she manage other talents if she is streaming fulltime? This doesnt even make sense.
>>104449233She's really doing more of a barebones consultant job than an actual manager. Basically 400 bucks for a sounding board to give you ideas for growth and such, she's not doing your daily shit. This is for 2views she would be useless to someone like Filian, Mint, or Nimi.
>>104451218did some quick research>How many subs does she have?68,000 that is very good for a small girl>How many viewers?looks like 50-80 viewers>What noteworthy collabs has she had?I was gonna say Neuro Sama, but it looks like she just reacted to Neuro Sama. so i am guessing none worth mentioning>What sponsorships has she had?the standard twitch 2view starter pack of uwumarket, gamersups etc>What conventions has she been guest at?looks like vexpo and smaller euro cons>What concerts has she done?was in a concert at a small euro conI mean it could be a lot worse honestly she likely has knowledge and some connections. EN vtubing is a small circle afterall
>>104448869tell them to dm sayu, god knows she needs a lot of management lmao
>>104452645>she likely has knowledge and some connectionsUnless she's a male vtuber, or a bitchy 0view, then no shit sherlock, they all have that.
>>104453146yeah and for someone just starting out, that could be helpful. if your someone who is already a mid-2view then it is probably not useful
>>104453172For $400 bucks though?
>>104453172Asking any 2view is possible, if you're a girl. If you're a male then I'm sorry buddy you got to pay up the $300+, or have a deep gravel voice to be allowed attention.
Funny thing is that chuubas don't even need a manager until they're in the upper echelon of the scene. Even then some of the girls will tell you that they find it unnecessary. What they actually need is an accountant because they're fucking horrible when it comes to handling that on their own.
>>104448869Honestly, that seems pretty reasonable. I figure that most managers in this space try to weasel themselves into a percentage of profits or IP ownership. Charging a flat monthly fee is the honorable way to do it.
My biggest question is how did she end up with a shylily accent
>>104448869what are the second month services? it seems like you get the most value off of the first month.
>>104454101Like a printer that's cheaper than the ink, then you should keep hiring her and firing her and restarting the trial. There are no flaws with this plan.
>>104448869This isn't a management service, this is a consulting service. There's no channel management, no twitter management, no email management, etc. being offered. It's just a 2hr call where she'll review your channel and give "tips", oh and also refer you to her artist/rigger/editor friends.
>>104454253A scheme that keeps on giving (for her and her friends)>>104448869>ApplicationSure sounds like she will not just say yes to every schmuck applying and demand money up front.
>>104454067People are born in different places you know
>>104456784and somehow all these girls born in different places ended up with the same twitch vthot accent. fascinating.
I paid for a month and nothing really changed.
>>104448869>$375 for first month (and likely only month, hence the higher first month rate)>Listed as "management" when it's better to call it a "Consultant">Access to artistic assets that 2-views shouldn't be prioritizing because you should be using stock models and PNGs until you're actually decent at content creation.>Most of those artistic assets are probably just her friends.>"Full Time Vtubing Video" aka "please pay me to drive my numbers up">A single 2 hour support call when 90% of decent management can be done over text in 45 seconds.>No access to actual resources regarding sponsorships, business management, operational security, social media presence, or community management, all way more important things to have on tap in a vtuber's early career than "my model looks pretty">Content review from a 2-view that's been in 2-view hell for 3~4 years, meaning she's unproven even in the arenas she claims to have expertise.If you're a vtuber and you ask me to match this offer, the only advice I've got for you is "you're retarded and being fleeced for $375", and you can have that one for free.
>>104449386How does any of that make it a scam?
>>104461710well, now your failure isn't your fault.
>>104462449she is effective at getting subs and followsnot nothing
>>104464369I guarantee 90% of her follows are other vtubers. This is far from ideal so she has failed from square one.
She has been on the front page of Twitch like 10 times now and is still a 2 view. Something clearly needs to change. Does she need consultation?
>>104466060>on the front page of Twitchbeing there is fucking worthless in her defence. You get boosted # but everyone "watching" you is you on their carousel as they first click into the homepage and navigate to their oshi
>>104466108Olivia Monroe inclined to the moon as soon as she went on the front page.
>>104466431Oli is botting so obviously. You can't be serious citing her.
>>104467075Lulu, you don't have to come on /vt/ and tell lies about other content creators to try and put yourself over.
>>104448869>350 for fucking nothingIf you want a manager they will have to do way more than that, this is basically prostitution. Hey 350 for 2 hours and I can recommend some other girls for other shit and tell you how shit you were in bed. Anyone paying for literally nothing deserves to go under.
It's just so stupid. You're paying a premium to get help from someone who clearly doesn't know what they're doing in a field that requires luck and connections more than anything else. Lulu is scamming in the sense that she's pretending to play a bigger ball game than she is capable of. Big connections? None. Credentials? Nada. You're just throwing money away.
>>104466431>>104467075Olivia actually has deep meaningful connections with bigger creators that give her an edge, She's actually very good at making said connections too, unlike Lulu who comes off as someone that desperately wants to make a living doing this and people don't like that stench. Everything Lulu says or does feels fake and transactional.
>>104467457Oh no wait, this is 350 a month for a 2 hour date with your oshi, just make a doodle and pretend to be a vtuber. Its literally paid dating disguised as something else.
>>104468224Nope. She has complained about past clients that tried to get a little friendly with her.
>>104468297Lol, lmao, so she doesnt realize thats what she's selling? Is she stupid?She's selling her time, full stop.
>>104468312>is she stupid?yes
