I am getting severe JOP fatigue. Why can't Japanese people just learn English like every other person in the first world?
>>104452962They invented vtubing, you are just a guest.
>>104452962Because you're not the target market. hololive literally does not need gaijin money to operate. Delete the EN and ID branch and everything will truck along just fine. If anything thing will improve without the contamination of the subhuman branches.
>>104452962Why can't fags like you learn Japanese, instead of being some tourist trying to invade another countries media and demanding change. Fuck off
>>104453101>Because you're not the target market.
>>104452993The west invented and owns vtubing.
jpGODS are the reason why your oshi has a career
>>104452993They didn’t lolJaps always just steal from everyone else like the eastern kikes they are
>>104452962>japanese company>looks inside>japanese
>>104452962They're trying, okay
>>104453386Ah yes the west renowned for its quality vtubers like Ironlung and Filian
>>104453571She, Subaru, and Lui, and a mix of some of the Dev:is crew are the inly ones who actually kinda care about getting some traction with English speakers. Funny that all the Japs were clammoring to 'learn English' with streams when EN had a higher CCV and sub count than all of them.
>>104452993TRVKE
>>104452993Actually vtubing was invented in the USA
>>104452993Yes, I'm a guest, and I'm being served Japanese meatballs despite ordering American burgers.
>>104453688>go to japanese restaurant >wtf where is my american food??stfu you fat cow
>>104453714I didn't realize HololiveEN (as in ENGLISH) implied a Japanese-speaking audience.
>>104453714>Japanese company opens restaurant in America>Hires American staff>Staff start opening the store at Japanese opening times and only speaking Japanese
>>104453736theres lots of things you don’t realize you retard
Bait used to be believable.
>>104453736Have you tried not being retarded
>>104452993True, but Ame invented schedules
>>104453810Good. They should do that specifically to make you mad
>>104452993So why don't they stream on their own fucking platform? Sorry, they're the guests here
>>104453833>u-ur retardeddede!Fuck off back to twitter with your low-effort posts.
Because their employer doesn’t want them to know what’s going on outside of Japan.
Btw the guy who got shot was watching Vtubers?My 4ch antenna is telling me he had some kind of weeb tendencies.
>>104452962Its a Japanese company and many english branch members really like their japanese senpai and their jp fans so its unsurprising that jp speaking en members occasionally stream in jp.
>>104453101Lol yen is monopoly money
>>104453943YouTube should close their japanese servers, delete the option to choose the japanese language in the settings and block Japan if they don't want japanese people on their site.
>>104453511Ah yes, vtubing was so popular in the west before Kizuna Ai and hololive JP made it popular.Also don't check who made Live2D, it was probably some american.
>>104452993no they did not that was the annoying orange
>>104452993
>>104452962HoloEN is a side branch. Any Holo that actually values and appreciates being part of the company, will learn Japanese in order to interact with the real Holos. Just like Holo ID is viewed as lesser than EN, EN will always be seen as lesser compared to JP. In the world of vtubing, the Japanese will always be superior, and you should learn their language if you want to be a part of it.
>>104454840EN makes up majority of the market share
Become a JP viewer. Ignore EN.
>>104452962Hololive EN btw
>>104454840Nah EOPs don’t care about Japs that’s much different market at this point and if Cover wants to keep treating them as a side branch they will keep losing talents and good will of the fans
>>104454840Except for a good year stint where every Jap talents was trying to suck off EN because they beat almost everyone to 1m subs and had higher CCV continuously, but you'll ignore that because you were likely one of the fags seething in /jp/ about it near hourly
>>104454997The novelty wore off, look at them now. Can you say they were wrong.
>>104455152Wasn't novelty, the branch was burned down from the inside. A mix of then pushing stars because they saw Niji boys doing well and not having more gens in quick succession was what really made the EN fanbase take a hit. JP was afforded 35 talents in 3 years, while EN only 11. Casual fans like big events, and hardcore fans like when their talent of choice is deep in them to create something. EN had no real ground to stand on, because not only did everyone live in different timezones, but also if a chunk of the branch didn't have time or want to participate, the project would be dead in the water. On the JP side, if 2/3rds of the talents didn't want to or couldn't commit a lot of time to building it up, like the summer festivals, you still had 5-10 people deep into it really working to make things cool. On the EN side, that would be 2-4 talents, which makes for a much less impactful collaborative effort that people can celebrate.Omega was a gay nigger whose decisions have forever curbed the EN branch.
This post was probably made by someone who watches anime in English dubs, is a One piece fan and demands the removal of certain types of fan service and lolis. Give me a fucking break and jump down the stairs.
>>104455152EN was literally sacrificed by Cover to lift JP back to the top. The HQ of hololive would be located in the US by now if that had not happened.
>>104455330>the branch was burned down from the insideBy their own talents, including myth when they were by themselves. You will not memory hole the brapper's antics, the chicken moments and the ghosting among themselves.
>>104455468No, by management and the JP talents.
Don't forget, the internet is full of poor browns and they're in this very thread seething over superior america.
>>104452962Considering the sheer amount of content we already get, the only reason to seethe about what little is missed is if you have crippling FOMODon't you faggots have jobs? How do you have time to consoom every English stream by your oshi and still have time left to spend getting mad about this shit
>>104455468I can agree that they were a bit stiff and awkward with each other sometimes, and I think Mori bit the bait far too often. Doesn't change the fact that they were for all intents and purpose doing better than JP for a good stretch of time. Keeping hype with new members for the branch and increasing more bodies to do big events, which almost everyone likes, would have done wonders.
>>104452962Tell you what, let's everyone meet halfway and learn Mandarin
>>104452962Why can you just learn Japanese and finally stop being EOP?
>>104452993the real first vtuber was technically the TF2 guy from like 2013, but I do believe the JP sphere has many more vtubers of quality in comparison to the west
>>104452962Why are EOP like this, vtubing started and thrives in Japan. The west is a complete afterthought for the market, its the same thing for anime/manga and other Japanese media where the foreign market is a secondary concern. Learn Japanese instead of trying to change what makes the medium great, its the same shit with people obsessing over garbage dub because they can't even be bothered to learn basic Japanese or read subs
>>104455794>fuwamoco>sheer amount of content
>>104456002Maybe it's too little for your NEET ass, idk
>>104455330>the branch was burned down from the inside. A mix of then pushing stars because they saw Niji boys doing wellObsessed.
>>104456198Obsessed with what? The fact that everyone at the tome of Stars EN announcement was hoping for another Hololive EN gen?
>>104452962brown weebs are just really patheticthe same people that shit on EOPs for typing English in JP chats are now defending JOP fans for doing basically the same thing. They'd gladly be cucked as long as it was a superior nippon penis fucking their woman.
>>104453101>hololive english>all of the talent are English speakers from the west>durrrr english speakers aren't the target audience!!can you even tie your own shoes you fucking moron?
>>104456672>anon cares about the opinion of brown peoplengmithat said, if someone likes vtubers and Japanese stuff in general, learning a bit of Japanese won't hurt
>>104454782not virtual. the v in vtubing btw.
>>104452993>The west invented computers they're guest>The west invented the internet they're a guest>The west invented Youtube they're a guest
>>104456862I wouldn't worry about it if I were you, you are clearly not from the west
>>104452993holy shit weebs really are retarded
>>104456959Classic deflection from a retarded weeabo
>>104457170you are on a vtuber board and no matter how much you cry about it, it is tied to Japanese culture outing yourself as an ironic weeb is not as cool as you thinkjust learn a bit of Japanese or watch girls who stream in English if it bothers you so much
>>104454782Yes, editing footage of your irl face onto pictures is truly the essence of vtubing
>>104452993FPBPkek the amount of eop fags seething is unbelievably funny
>>104457170Are you one of those ironic weebs?
>>104455832>Doesn't change the fact that they were for all intents and purpose doing better than JP for a good stretch of time.If you mean individually, sure. And let's be real, it takes a lot of effort to squander that, even more so when fans are willing to put up with a lot of bullshit. Generally speaking fans don't disappear even if the company is black as shit because who doesn't want to cheer for a good girl who's in a bad situation, so the logical conclusion is that the girls themselves did things that made their fans leave.I hate omega as much as the next guy but you can't pin all the blame on that fag or the retarded management
>>104453511But enough about the Chinese
>>104453511>Pekora always just steals from everyone else holomems
>>104453673Exactlyhttps://youtu.be/F3Gb571RE_A?si=88jy9FOuzQJ6TWGU
>>104456747Many members of HoloEN don't speak English and the majority are not from the West unless you mean West of Japan.
>>104453101Sanest take on /vt/ right now.
>>104452962>>104452993FPBP
>>104453101>Delete the EN and ID branch and everything will truck along just fine. YAGOOOOOOOOO DO THIS!!
>>104456275Thinking Holostars was part of the downfall of the EN is retarded, especially because Advent had a huge boost.
>>104452962listen, they were always supposed to be JPYagoo just snuck them in the back doorwe should be happy they bother with any EN content at all
>>104454609>hololive JP made it popularLOLDelusional holoroach.
>>104458759Newfag.
>>104458821No need to introduce yourself.
>>104459003List one EN vtuber that got popular before 2020.
>>104459099Show me where I said anything about EN, dumb fuck.
>>104459482Learn to read then, I was talking about the west vtubing scene, and hololive made it popular.
>>104452962Recycling the same pointless bait for 50th time again? Running low on (you)s from the Nimi/Saba threads?
>>104453688Guess it's time to leave that restaurant then.
>>104459654And you've replied to it. What does that make you? The king of losers.
>>104460122A sag e reply counts as opposed to your brown ass bumping the thread?
>>104460193Sageing is not a downvote, you dumbass newfag.Any form of engagement is going to attract more replies by virtue of showing some form of activity, which is why you should just hide and ignore threads that you don't like.
>>104460257It's mad.
>>104460257NTA, but do you like this thread?
>>104460295I like all on-topic threads, bait or not.
>>104460330I see.I wanna lick Biboo's gem.
>>104460418*nods wisely*>>>/sci/16727856
>>104452962agreed, nothing wrong with wanting to speak your countries language only, but as soon as you step into the interwebz you are a faggot if you dont at least try to speak decent englisht. german
>>104457315Vtubing has nothing to do with japanese culture. Anime is american.
>>104454877>>104454997But the numbers tell a different story. Every EN member is struggling to even hit 4-view, while JP members have no problem pulling 20k CCV.
>>104453633Don't be disingenuous. There are good EN Vtubers out there like Marimari_EN, Kiki Pyon, Chromuchromu and Fallenshadow.There are other good Vtubers in Phase Connect too (but I know antis are going to come out of nowhere and shit on them unfairly)
>>104453633>Dooby3D, Saba
>>104453511Super Sonico was the first technical vtuber>"No it was annoying orange!!11"Live2D was invented in Japan.>>104458759Yes, Hololive did make it popular outside of Japan. Kizuna Ai pushed the starts of modern vtubing, Nijisanji was the biggest in Japan in 2017 and 2018 and western vtubers ruined it because all ewhores jumped on it and turned it into a shitfest.
>>104452962No, but really, why are japs unable to learn english when even the greasiest indian from a slum in Mumbai is able to do it?
>>104466539For the same reason (You) wouldn't normally bother to learn a gay ass language like french. It's completely unnecessary for 99% of the population, they have all the stuff they want in nip already.
>>104455941zeraxos my oshi...
>>104464996>The only "good" EN vtubers he can name outside Hololive are ones he only knows because they were in Hololive in the first placeGrim. Doob and Saba kind of suck though personally I wouldn't say they're even close to the quality of Pekora or Miko in terms of how entertaining they are and variety of content
>>104468925See >>104464973
>>104452962Keep crying ENcel
>>104466539Nice admission kek
>>104454997There was never a single point in history where EN did better than JP. ENcels crying themselves to sleep everyday when reminded of this fact.
No one in this thread will ever be japanese, btw
>>104466539A society with a strong enough culture can be completely insular and self-reliant. What does that say about your subhuman browngoloid culture pajeetbrown?
>>104453636>when EN had a higher CCV and sub count than all of themThis never happened
>>104452962>EN Ruffian still seething two years later over being tricked into oshi-ing the JP telebubbiesAt this point, you just enjoy pain. It was obvious they were JP members masquerading as EN from the very beginning. Fuwawa calling Mococo "Moco-CHAN" should have been your red flag. Plus, who the fuck else in EN is autistic enough to use honorifics religiously and refer to even fellow EN members as senpai and shit?
>>104464973I wanted chromu in pc :( that was my wish... im living in a purgatory this year
>>104463483Now? Yes. For a year and a half after Myth debut? Lol
yet another thread talking about ideas and topics that don't actually exist
>>104452993The Annoying Orange
>>104459482Dumb retard can't even read calling other people dumb lol
>>104458126>?si=letting niggers use the internet was a mistake
>>104454609>license: proprietaryi'm still mad