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>>104537173
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/
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EN5?
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Rissa and FWMC mog Shiori and Biboo so bad in this
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THE EN5 ISN'T REAL
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>>104537437
>20k raided in
>11k watching
GRIM
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does anyone really fall for this?
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SIEG
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>>104537448
after the myth concert
trust the plan
hologods are in control
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>>104537497
What a slut
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Mococo is the best VA.
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>>104537504
based i belieb
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If EN5 lore is related to AdventxJustice then we are only going to get EN5 once this ends next year lmao
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You know what bros? I don't even want EN5 anymore, this fanfic comic dub is so amazing I am completely satisfied. To another year long gap of nothing!
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>>104537491
or this?
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You can tell which girls do voice acting and which dont lmao
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>>104537491
She has a confirmed boyfriend, I guess only phasepags do.
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You can tell Advent have a lot more practice doing voice overs than justice because jesus christ justice, besides ERB, sound rigid as fuck
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>>104537497
ALL RISE FOR THE FUBUKINGDOM
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Holo anime soon
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You winning /#/?
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fucking cringe. I wish extreme eternal pain on that omega tranny where ever xhe is. JP lucky to not have to deal with this retarded lore shit.
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>chess game into a voiced comic
who asked for this?
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/#/ too slow
/vt/ is dead
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/promise/ will never admit it, but that was far superior to the 2022 Halloween thing that Fauna wrote, especially the VA.
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ADVENTRIX STATUS?
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ERB schedules weekly gangbangs with Advent members
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damn, we have a lot of totally real holofans getting angry at this huh?
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>>104537582
IN THE MUD
IN THE MUD
ADVENT'S IN THE MUD
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>>104537497
I can't believe they were referencing this...
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>>104537568
Yeah I asked for it
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>>104537568
I did. The comic was Kino as fuck
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the rat was waiting for advent vs justice to end, such a good senpai
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>>104537582
lost, yet again
Justchads >>>
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>>104537590
so die hard she barely knows anything about them.
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>>104537568
Me
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Good VAs:
ERB (pro)
FWMC (100% into their kayfabe)
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>>104537578
Bae's eyeball schizophrenia will always be memorable to me. The rest weren't that great.
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This really wasn't worth it
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>>104537568
magnus carlsen
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>>104537602
It's a near identical reaction to HoloID's concert selling out

>GRRRRR I'M A TOTALLY REAL HOLOFAN AND I'M REALLY ANGRY AT HOLOLIVE DOING WELL, IT SHOULD BE [Insert group here] DOING WELL INSTEAD
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>>104537628
>mindbroken
nice
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>>104537578
Those were pretty fun though
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>>104537645
Rissa was good too, all the others sucked
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>>104537529
some of you children are too young to remember this classic motion comic:
https://www.webtoons.com/en/thriller/chiller/bongcheon-dong-ghost-horang/viewer?title_no=536&episode_no=22
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>>104537645
nerissa is literally a professional voice actress...
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>>104537628
You don't need to know people to be in a gangbang
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I still think a Myth and Council one shoulda been made
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Saba karaoke>full advent chess match + important announcement on the main channel
Holy kek
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>>104537645
Wissa is great at VA
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>>104537621
comic was nice but only 3 of them enhanced it with the voice over, could have just released it normally like holowitches
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https://youtu.be/2rWmCir5a58
https://youtu.be/2rWmCir5a58
https://youtu.be/2rWmCir5a58
Kobo sung this
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>>104537645
Shiori was fine except when she had to act surprised.
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>>104537645
All of Advent was good VAs actually.
Justice, though...
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That was pretty cool, If I didnt have to be reminded every week that shiori and erb are homocollabers, I would appreciate it more. I dont hate it anyway.
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>>104537720
She should have went AIEEEEEEEEE like the faggots on this website do
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If we are being real here I am pretty sure Raora might even be better than Ollie

Of course CC is the best chess player
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Nice EN5 retards
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>>104537729
Biboo was bad too, shes still very stilted
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>>104537701
I wish that was true, all the gangbangs are invite only
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>>104537720
shiori already did better than most of "pro" VA
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>>104537757
CC said she lost badly to Ollie though.
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That wasn't bad but not worth all this to hype it up imo
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it's 1-1 now in the advent vs justice thing
EN5 won't be released until they've done 5 streams
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*SEPTEMBER 14TH FINAL EN TALLY*
>15,757: Ina'nis (Hololive English)
>9,813: Baelz (Hololive English)
>9,569: Shiori (Hololive English)
>9,554: Elizabeth (Hololive English)
>7,013: Nimi (Indie)
>6,713: Kiara (Hololive English)

The celebrations for Hololive English's 5th anniversary continue. Gold for Ina (and Hololive Myth)'s anniversary collab with announcement, Silver for Bae's playthrough of Yakuza 5, and a very entertaining Bronze race that ended up being won by Shiori with her Chess Lesson with Advent.

>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)
Bijou = 26p
Calliope = 10p
Saba = 9p
Kronii, Ina'nis, Baelz = 5p
IRyS, Clio = 3p
FUWAMOCO, Nimi, Wilson, Elizabeth, Cecilia, Kiara, Shiori = 2p
Gigi, Clio, Aia = 1p
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>>104537784
Calm down Flayon
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>>104537613
>>104537621
>>104537638
>>104537666
4 asking for this vs about a thousand not asking for this
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>all these Holo Vs Holo and EN5 seethe

Real natural, guys
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>>104537800
biboo too
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>>104537773
Nah Biboo was fine, it didn't sound like she was reading from a script like most of Justice was. But they'll learn too eventually, just give them time. Maybe another year
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>>104537773
kill yourself brazilian schizo
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I was feeling bad for this Zeal guy from NijiEN for getting only 1K on his half anniversary after 30m in, then I found out it was after the engine already started kicking in...
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>>104537801
are those "thousand not asking for this" in the room with you?
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>>104537811
is that
a
fucking
CLANKER
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>2020 - Myth
>2021 - Council
>2022 -
>2023 - Advent
>2024 - Justice
>2025 -

Are we back to the GRIM era?
Homos have been doomposting but what if Cover and their homoloving managers announce a new homoEN gen after their "concert"?
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>>104537791
2-1
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>>104537672
i would be if the useless whore would stream more!
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EN Golds won by the HoloEN channel in the last two months: 5

EN Golds won by Saba in the last two months: 4
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>>104537757
Raora is terrible under pressure, she would totally fold in a 1 on 1 match
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>>104537714
this is basically among us lmao
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>>104537811
its all very organic seethe from totally real holofans that HATED this with her guts tho i would admit that the "mystery" around it wasnt necesary
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>>104537757
Surely not? I remember Ollie was coached by some professional players several sessions. If CC is the better player, Ollie must've been retarded (I saw CC's chess stream earlier and she was worse than myself when I was an elementary school kid).
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>>104537795
SEP 2025 EN GOLD
9/1 - Bijou - Hollow Knight: 8,800
9/2 - Bijou - Hollow Knight: 9,855
9/3 - Saba - Waterpark Simulator: 10,718
9/4 - Bijou - Handcam Model Building: 12,949
9/5 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 10,634
9/6 - Baelz - Promise Offcollab: 11,005
9/7 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 13,840
9/8 - IRyS - Crime Scene Cleaner: 16,407
9/9 - Clio - Europa Universalis 4: 10,612
9/10 - Calliope - Umamusume: 10,204
9/11 - Kronii - Archived Karaoke: 15,346
9/12 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 16,249
9/13 - Calliope - 5th Anniversary: 28,748
9/14 - Ina'nis - Anniversary Collab: 15,757

PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive English
1x: Indie
1x: Phase Connect

PER STREAMER
6x: Bijou
2x: Calliope
1x: Saba, Ina'nis, Kronii, Baelz, IRyS, Clio
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>>104537578
Well the VA in holoween was worse on average since some in promyth are horrible at it, though Gura was surprisingly good at it, made me wonder if she was aiming for a VA career before joining holo
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>>104537714
oh that a anime? I don't know why I thought it was a game at one point.
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>>104537845
I only remember the valentines stream what was the other?
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>>104537811
>The full power of advent+ justice on the main channel came nowhere close to saba's karaoke or IM's anniversary
Holy grim
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>>104537860
h-h-hot
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>>104537843
I don't even know how many male vtubers have graduated recently for that to even happen the only one I know of is a massive Niji shill
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>>104537560
um sister its been ages since omega was axed you are a bit behind on years and brains and the lore thing is for merch drop which will happen later. There is nothing more to it.
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based chammers
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>>104537902
It's the anime adaptation of the game
Anya played it even
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>>104537895
but CC can code, ya know
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>IM
ennacuck zzz
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>>104537821
shes still definitely a tier below Shiori, whos wayyy below rissa and fwmc
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>>104537920
what language
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>>104537898
SEP 2025 EN SILVER
9/1 - Saba - Hatsune Miku Project DIVA: 8,397
9/2 - Nimi - Hollow Knight: 5,765
9/3 - Bijou - Hollow Knight: 8,724
9/4 - Calliope - Dead Take: 11,876
9/5 - Wilson - Birthday Stream: 6,802
9/6 - Saba - Waterpark Simulator: 8,389
9/7 - Elizabeth - Karaoke: 8,773
9/8 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 12,411
9/9 - Saba - Facade: 8,674
9/10 - Kronii - Ringfit Adventure: 9,277
9/11 - Bijou - Karaoke: 8,183
9/12 - FUWAMOCO - Japan Stigmatized Property: 12,492
9/13 - Ina'nis - 5th Anniversary: 20,670
9/14 - Baelz - Yakuza 5: 9,813

PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive English
4x: Indie
1x: Nijisanji English

PER STREAMER
3x: Saba, Bijou
1x: FUWAMOCO, Baelz, Kronii, Nimi, Calliope, Wilson, Elizabeth, Ina'nis
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>>104537915
Omega is Max, retard
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>>104537582
You expect any good response here for this?
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>>104537874
I do hate chess and shit on management for picking it
never once seethed about en5 or act like a jealous child doing holo vs holo
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>All the fags replying to me last thread
Sorry for being happy with our current talents. I forgot we need to expand infinitely, hiring every single indie, debuting solo holosingers every month and poaching talents left and right,, so you attention deficit zoomers have something to slob over for next 2 weeks before going back to same old shit
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>>104537773
Shut up bitch, Biboo was so sweet and fluffy in how she talked
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>>104537903
Party Animals
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>>104537941
german
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>>104537942
SEP 2025 EN BRONZE
9/1 - Cecilia - Thank Goodness You're Here: 5,972
9/2 - N/A (Only two talents qualified for the Tally this day)
9/3 - Shiori - Super Mario Sunshine: 5,983
9/4 - Kiara - Hollow Knight: 9,747
9/5 - Clio - Total War Shogun 2: 6,438
9/6 - Calliope - Karaoke and Announcement: 6,936
9/7 - Gigi - Hollow Knight Silksong: 6,629
9/8 - Cecilia - The Quarry: 8,633
9/9 - Bijou - Hollow Knight Silksong: 8,498
9/10 - Aia - Elden Scrolls IV Oblivion Remastered: 7,507
9/11 - Bijou - The Headliners: 8,076
9/12 - Calliope - Elden Ring: 8,767
9/13 - Kiara - 5th Anniversary: 13,274
9/14 - Shiori - Chess Practice: 9,569

PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive English
1x: N/A
1x: Phase Connect
1x: Nijisanji English

PER STREAMER
2x: Cecilia, Shiori, Bijou, Calliope, Kiara
1x: Clio, Gigi, Aia
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>>104537915
the tranny basically forced it onto EN (Myth and Council) and now the branch thinks every gen has to have some kind of retarded lore
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>>104537714
I don't really hear any vocals other than a dude's in whatever song that is
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>>104537933
That's your personal preference, which I disagree with, but that's still better than sounding like they read from a script like most of justice
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>>104537903
The players themselves admitted 1-1 idk what the fuck the adventfag or justslut is meaning to say with 2-1
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>>104537843
Not really. Grim era caused not only by the lack of new members, but the lack of streams in general. Currently, most of the time HoloEN members still fill the days just fine - we usually have at least 2-3 streams outside rare exceptions during concerts. Most members are relatively active (except ERB and perhaps Nerissa) Back then there were days (in plural) with literally 0 stream
EN5 would be nice but I'm not really that desperate for them yet.
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>>104537953
>t.
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Mint is for...
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You cant say anything about Biboo because pebbles inmediatly start crying
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>>104537998
>>104537964
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>>104537933
You are really searching, she was better than all of Justice besides erb, and no one from Advent was that much better than her.
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>>104538008
do not recommend this channel
block user
hide post
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>>104537895
She lost to Ollie. She traded wins with Gigi during their practice according to her profile. But I think CC RR and GG has punched above their weight class, hence Advent getting decimated. Honestly if I were Advent I would be slightlyyyy salty considering CCGG were try harding while the other 3 Advent members barely give a fuck, but it is what it is.
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>>104538013
Stop being sensitive bitch, damn
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>>104537757
Raora was trying to lose the game for Justice by getting them to attack the bishop that was protected by both the rook and queen of Advent. Thank god Gigi just decided to ignore her.
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>>104537964
that wasn't on the official channel and they were constantly switching up teams so you couldn't even call it a real vs
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>>104537843
>Cover and their homoloving managers announce a new homoEN gen after their "concert"?
NTA but no the ROI on homo's is bad for something like cover now. They have to reboot the entire branch if they wish to venture into male vtuber thingy now
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>>104538033
>no one from Advent was that much better than her
you have to be deaf anon
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>>104537933
you lost, schizo
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Holostars haven't had new gen for longer than holopro girls and I don't see them complaining
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>>104538008
cucks
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>>104537582
3-1 for advent so far out of all advent vs justice collabs
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>>104538070
just brown, you can usually tell
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>>104537943
Retard how is he max when omega was a known tranny you fag slicker
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>>104538050
>Thank god Gigi just decided to ignore her.
Thank God cc ignored gg trying to get their pawn killed by the backline rook. Literally almost lost the gamr
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>>104538070
I think you just have some schizo shit against her, because no one from Advent were some amazing talents that are blowing her out of the water.
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>>104537941
i think python and javascript. her websites are full of easter eggs but otomos.me expired recently so i can't link her code. not sure if she made anything else recently
https://web.archive.org/web/20240913193230/https://otomos.me/static/css/style.css
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>>104538050
CC was getting REAL frustrated with Raora for a while there
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>>104538070
seethe biboo schizo
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>>104537910
AI does a very good porn of this
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>>104538079
Hard to do with 3/3 but maybe they can pull it off
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>>104538005
>there were empty days up until last week
Active my ass
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>>104538055
I still count that as an Advent win, though.
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>9 hololive members 23k
>one silly tapir almost 10k
One Nimi > 4 holoEN members
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>>104538079
Scratch ERB and you've got a deal. Otherwise no.
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>>104537984
Nerissa and ERB like the lore wstuff so its not omega thing. Basically both of them are theater fags
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>>104538013
aww poor brazilian got his feelings hurt after shitposting all day
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So what happened to the great "Grandmaster Biboo"? Why didn't Advent try to go on the attack even once?
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>lost the gamr
the ESL brigade
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Stop your Holoseethe and gather for Nephilim cutie

https://www.youtube.com/live/WHcApxr5heQ
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>>104537917
no she should shut the fuck up
her whole schtick was to be randumb chaotic weirdo until recently doing jebait graduation is easily what people think she can pull
I literally do not want to hear anything about being "weird" from chama of all people
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>>104538118
I should learn how to code. Just for fun though because programming jobs are competitive as fuck now
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https://youtube.com/shorts/EWJnl8DpZJY
https://youtube.com/shorts/EWJnl8DpZJY
https://youtube.com/shorts/EWJnl8DpZJY
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>Biboo is better VA than all of EN
>Biboo is better singer than all of the holos
End of the story.
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>>104538135
No one is going to check her graph ennacuck. You wasted your bot this time
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>>104538158
>Schizo having to pivot shitposts after getting blown out already
Bitch move
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>>104538128
>>104538137
>mindbroken
nice
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>>104537953
you are unironically stupid.
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>>104538187
pebbles unironically think like this
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>>104538079
mori and ina already have years above everyone else
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Why doesn't Cover understand we don't want lore, 3d lives, concerts, all this cringe shit that distracts from daily streams.
They just need to rush out new gens until they can get cover the until 24 hour day with streams. To make it faster, just hire the applicants with the highest amount of subscribers. Why are they over thinking things
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>>104538181
https://youtube.com/shorts/JKgQh_PYfMs

Mori.... Is cute?
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https://youtu.be/RQHTD81PdQI
I miss coco
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>>104537541
Yeah me
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>>104538013
Awwww you will get them next time lil favella shitter
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>>104538193
that's not a botted graph lol
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>>104538205
>we
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>>104538205
Nijisanji is two blocks down
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>>104538005
It wasn't just the lack of streams
It was also the homo ACCELERATE instead of EN3 and the very real fear the Cover and Omega were trying to nijify EN in response to luxiem
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>>104538079
I can't stomach erb in any capacity
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pls consider
learn to drop hate
invest in a smile
love will come
maybe you will like it
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>>104538170
>typo is in the same sense as being an ESL now
Man, why are thirdies so obsessed with grammar?
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EN5 doko?
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>>104538205
>we
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>>104538205
But we do tho?
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>>104537491
The other day Dizzy was talking about whay kind if men the other girls might go for and chat had to remind her that Lia was supposedly gay
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>>104538205
not sure if ironic post or weak falseflag attempt
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>>104538235
hope you're ready for ARMIS REVENGE :)
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>>104538249
Next week
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>>104538199
you replied because you know its true. and you will continue to repeat the same two words like a faggot forever kek
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>>104537843
It's grim because the numbers they're pulling lately are bad, even with the cull. EN5 would last around 2 weeks before the viewers start falling again. JP was barely affected btw.
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>>104538005
this, EN5 will fill the rest of the slots
and management has to step up their projects because its looking GRIM
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>>104537953
Only nijisisters believe in accelerating. I'm happy with what we have right now as well
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If we get Raora into a real competitive game we might actually get to see her cry on stream
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>>104538187
>>104538203
kek this is pathetic now. How long are you going to try make biboo some villian fag
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>>104538258
Yes I'm sure the girl who flirted with a guy on stream at one point is gay
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Fucking cover I swear.
I want serious IDOL gen for EN. How the fuck did you give up on idol stuff for EN before you even tried it??? So fucking stupid.
Cute voices, cute models, decent singing ability from all of them, fun gimmicks and characters. Is it really that hard??
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>>104538249
At the Holostar's concert, trust me.
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>>104538132
>Rare exceptions during concerts
And no, there were no day without any stream yet in September, much less "up until last week". The worst day we had was 3rd Sep (JST) and there were still 3 streams. Every other days had 5+
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>fun holoEN collab ends
>phasepags and nijinigs immediately come out extremely jealous and shitpost like crazy
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>>104538205
>"we don't want lore"
>go to multiple social media
>find people who don't like lore
>check profile
>nijifags and ligtroons
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>>104538290
>doubling down on his mindbreak
damn
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>>104538329
Apparently yes
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>>104538309
I've seen her cry on stream already
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>>104538205
reminder half of the holofans here are fucking around with en5 bullshit your bait was already pre-baited idiot
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>>104538343
EN5 doko?
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>>104538329
But most idols can't sing for shit
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>>104538205
>lore
based
>3d lives
based
>concerts
cringe
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>>104538241
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>>104537173
Recent Clip Numbers
>>104481351
>>104481363
>>104481389
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>>104538343
The usual
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>>104538366
are the holofans you mentioned here with us?
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>>104538205
So true sister we don't want lore we want our vtubers to be twitch thots with anime avatars
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You guys to go to sleep there's a collab tomorrow morning
たぶん・・・
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
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>>104537173
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>66,612: Miko (Hololive)
>53,389: Marine (Hololive)
>44,636: Subaru (Hololive)
>35,767: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,604: Korone (Hololive)
>18,941: Ars (Nijisanji)
>18,759: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,885: AZKi (Hololive)
>16,393: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,136: Marin (Nijisanji)
>15,995: Kokage (VSPO)
>15,836: Ina (Hololive)
>15,460: Vivi (Hololive)
>14,210: Met (VSPO)
>13,194: Mio (Hololive)
>12,974: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,824: Watame (Hololive)
>12,670: Botan (Hololive)
>12,412: Noel (Hololive)
>12,309: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,461: Su (Hololive)
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So just like that?
advent loses?
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Need more biboo. A solo stream please
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>no Advent and Justice streams for 2 days
>for this announcement
it's weird.
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>>104538384
they indeed go up
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I miss Nimi
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>>104538351
they are not trying hard enough
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Holo Lore Drop
>Cute anicomi about relationships between gen
Niji Lore Drop
>Some member tried to kill themselves
Vshojo Lore Drop
>We scammed the entirety of our roster off their payments for a year
Indie Lore Drop
>I'm actually married and all your merch purchases is used to fund my husband's vices
Phase Lore Drop
>Actually I want my fans to get shot like the faggot that just got shot on live TV

Which way Western man?
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100k by holos in 2025

1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)
2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)
3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)
4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)
5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)
6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)
7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)
8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)
9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)
10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)
11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)
12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)
13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)
14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)
15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)
16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)
17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)
18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)
19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)
20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)
21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)
22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)
23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)
24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)
25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)
26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)
27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)
28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)
29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)
30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)
31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)
32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)
33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)
34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)
35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)
36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)
37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)
38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)
39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)
40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)
41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)
42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)
43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)
44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)
45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)
46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)
47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)
48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)
49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)
50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)
51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)

# of 100k streams last year: 58
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>I want new hololive gen right now
>But all indie girls are bitches and whores
You can't even name a single girl you would want in EN5, and yet demand a whole ass gen
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>>104538379
well that's why I said decent instead of good.
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>>104538460
Why isn't Nimi's lore drop on this list?
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>>104538329
This guy was hypnotized by the "success" of the first NijiEN male. We're in 2025 and still didn't receive the memo about how they collapsed.
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>you asked for EN5? here's another homo gen instead!
chances of this happening after their MMD concert?
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>>104538466
Notice how Suisei is in none of these? She's lost the hololive audience.
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I thought GG would be better at chess
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>>104538482
Anon it's on indie lore drop....
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>>104537927
>this upset advent and justice lost
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>>104538475
all the best girls in the previous 2 gens where random low 3views, theres probably some chuuba out there you never heard of whos pretty good
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>>104538493
>not even an actual concert
There you have your answer.
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>>104538475
good thing cover is getting thousand of applications not only from active indie vtubers
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>>104538496
Suisei doesn't want the holo audience, she wants the normie audience now.
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>>104538500
Yeah I got gaslit into thinking gigi was smart, too. It's okay
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>>104538493
like 10%
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>>104538500
she did ok, she was better than anyone except for CC who was clearly way better than all of them combined, advent was a non-starter
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>>104538475
The most popular of Advent and Justice no one did name. Retarded precedent to go by.
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>>104538493
more than you'd think
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>>104538329
Find five girls that are:
>want to be chuubas, and specifically holo chuubas
>decent or salvageable singers and/or dancers with cute voices
>also not too boring outside of idol activities and can operate well under Cover's restrictions and perms hell
>not too whorish and don't lust after homos
>pass the vibe check
>live near each other so can easily collab and record or whatever together without needing to go to JP (or just all live in JP)
That's a really really tough ask
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Uh oh pebblepaggy
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>Gamer of EN
>Sucks at Chess
CC is the new gamer of EN then?
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>>104538434
Fuwamoco are streaming in 1 hour
Cecilia and ERB streamed earlier today
No excuses
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>>104538524
Makes sense. Ever since her meltdown she's been pissing hololive fans off. She doesn't care about hololive and will probably sink their ship on the way out.
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>>104538540
What? Raora made better moves than GG. At least Raora's moves didn't almost throw the game... Twice...
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Honestly Cover should hire two girls to tackle onto Myth like they did with Promise. Having gen anniversary with only 3 girls is just embarrassing!
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>>104538582
>>104538524
>>104538496
ONE
MINUTE
BETWEEN
ANSWERS

YEAAHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>104538583
raora did nothing except for what CC told her to do, and what little she did where bad moves
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Cute cute cute!
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>>104538578
always was
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>>104538205
Cover are incredibly full of themselves and think that they're MORE than just streamers, they're a global multifaceted entertainment business
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>>104538590
Tacking on new girls to years old gens, is retarded.
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So this settles it right?
CC > Biboo
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>>104538616
>and what little she did where bad moves
Huh? Name them. Because I can tell you with certainty that if they followed GG's plan to turn the pawn into queen early Justice would've lost.
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>>104538576
Hey ennacuck there isnt going to be any streams today so maybe come tomorrow?
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>Computer, enhance.
>Touching hands
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, are they?
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>>104538506
>upset
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>>104538654
>Holo vs Holo
You ain't slick phasenegro
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>>104538329
EN is kind of headless I've noticed. YAGOO was talking about how he wants to focus on helping the girls find their direction or something like that in an earlier interview, which kind of implies they're all mostly just coasting with a
>Stream and sing sometimes and collect a paycheck
kind of vibe rather than some specific passion they're constantly striving for. Same with management, they don't seem to have any real idea of what they want the branch to be or encompass. JP is much better about that.
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>>104523568
I nearly got it right. Dang it.
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>>104538475
I don't know if she'd be interested but I'd like Isla Coleman for EN5. I liked her 3d live from a few months ago. She seems like a good egg
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>>104538639
This post sounds so vitriolic and full of envy that it's like a woman made it
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>>104538329
peak EN was 2020-2021. the only one who wanted to be an "idol" back then was kiara and arguably gura.
the old random fuckery vr chat streams were so much more kino than the performances that mori put out. they lost the SOVL of being streamer/entertainers and were reduced to dancing prerecorded monkeys.
NO ONE ASKED FOR THIS.
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>>104538524
>>104538496

Nigga, plz, just stop. Let it go...
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I'm okay with waiting more for new gen. Things like that simply take time to grow properly. It's just a better alternative than rushing some half baked gen with girls that clearly don't fit in or will graduate almost immediately like sana
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Look at them
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>>104538654
as pebble yes even ERB is greater than biboo you know what yagoo is greater than biboo just leave the girl alone now go after fucking reimu new debut give her some love
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Justice > Advent
its settled
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>>104538668
>Yomosaka

She knows
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>>104538699
Not every criticism is jealousy you stupid ESL
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>German and Italian in military uniform
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i won a suisei plushie at an arcade recently and i really like it
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>>104538730
Hololive > phase
its settled
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>>104538684
someone already leaked it elsewhere what the thing was going to be yesterday (they said it was going to be either a motion comic or a song) so we might be getting song next
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>>104538662
Pebblepag seethe
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>bae yakuza7 part 10 5K
cull really is over
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>>104538719
>Things like that simply take time to grow properly.
No they don't
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>>104538599
This thread is fast so this sort of thing is not uncommon. It's not unreasonable for two people to have the same opinion.
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>>104538346
lore shit is a waste of time for the girl to record this in their spare time. when it will never be mentioned, or watched by their general audience. its like collecting those useless book/data entry/notes in video games. Does anyone ever read those?
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>>104538329
You forgot the most important requirements.

Vibe check. Ugly and evil ass bitches dont matter and their grifts will bring ruin to Holo if they dont filter them out.
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>>104538639
Yes, and?
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>>104538719
This
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>>104538661
When she tried to attack the bishop, but GG also missplayed yes
thankfully all of advent sucks so nobody capitalized
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>>104538590
There's a pretty simple solution. Merge Promise and Myth together into one gen, and then move Kronii to Justice. You now have 3 gens all with 5 people. Kronii already has a military outfit so she'll fit right in.
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>>104538778
Come on nigga it was just Forbes, you don't need to throw a multiweek long melty for it
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>>104538744
Funny that sounds just like what a jealous woman would say
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>>104538806
AAIEEE GIGI IS SEXPESTING PERO
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>>104538792
and they're wrong
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>>104538744
Show tits
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>>104538806
my cute wife
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>>104506741
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>>104538798
>split up TimeRyS
This is Omega-level retardation
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>>104538590
No they should just shift them down by seniority
EN1: Mori, Kiara, Ina, IRyS, Kronii
EN2: Bae, Shiori, Biboo, Nerissa, Fuwawa
EN3: Mococo, ERB, GG, CC, Raora
There, fixed
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>>104538639
yeah they obviously want a bigger audience thats what DEVis all about
duh
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>>104537533
>after fucking every male in niji EN she's no longer heterosexual

somehow I can believe that imagine sucking off pretentious faggot like VOX or genuine perverted asshole like Luca only to get nothing out of it because they all fell off into irrelevance and all the humiliation was for nothing
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>>104538749
could've paid a lot less for it at fandom/lashinbang w/o the rng
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>>104538829
Nijiseethe
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>>104538831
your wife seems pretty bad at using her brain. Might want to get her checked out
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>>104538833
Guess anon doesn't have to put on a dress
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Guys, we are being too greedy. Going too hard on new gens will result in the same situation nijisanji or phase are in. That would be bad for us. Let's slow down and manage our expectations properly.
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>>104538816
Why the fuck would I be jealous I don't want to run a vtuber company
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>>104538205
>They just need to rush out new gens until they can get cover the until 24 hour day with streams

That worked for NijiEN very well lately...
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>>104538639
But they are a global multifaceted entertainment business
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>>104538857
no need, i like them retarded
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Kitanya sounded fine, but if kokonuts, milky, banyana are not getting in? Or if those are being reprogrammed to fit in, its fine to wait.
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>>104538719
nothing is fucking growing
especially when youtube is culling shit all the time and shadowbanning your streams and channels.
Idea that you don't need to replace your LITERALLY most successful talents with at least something is wishful fucking thinking. EN needs new stars. New blood, New wind.
Otherwise it is stagnation. Especially when obviously management doesn't really have any interesting ideas.
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>>104538862
>1 gen per year
>going too hard
????
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>>104538865
I don't know, why are you jealous?
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Nimi missed out on the giga holofunnel
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i got 3 days bc i celebrate charlie kirk death what did i miss?
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>>104538851
The crane rng is a part of the fun. I tried getting a pekora and haachama plushie too, but i failed
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>>104538785
vibe check is assumed by default
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>>104538898
is that the KING ENGINEEEEEE!?
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>>104538862
they cant support the current ones and they want more? morons
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>>104538803
Absolutely no one cares about that. It's normalfag old media. I guess that is all she cares about. She's never been on that vtuber magazine which means much more. Why do you think anyone cares? You project.
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>>104538862
I'm just wondering where all the recent indie grads are going
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>>104538862
EN literally lost literally all of their most popular talents lmao
the fuck are you on about?
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>>104538941
You're having a melty
Seek assistanceb
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https://poal.me/mgyufl
https://poal.me/mgyufl
https://poal.me/mgyufl
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>>104538941
>Absolutely no one cares about that
>Has spent the last month calling Suisei all sorts of names

This is embarrassing
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>>104538782
w/o lore, you might as well watch ethots. the whole point is that they are playing a fantasy character. this whole hobby is about escapism and them being unrealistically idealized subservient females
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I've noticed YouTube has been doing this a lot lately, and it's almost always with hololive music. Why is it recommending me 3 random fucking playlists instead of just recommending me the actual video for Mori's new song? I don't want to click some rando's playlist. I never do that. Is there some kind of option where I can get YT to stop recommending me playlists?
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>>104538941
Holy shit calm down you sperg
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>>104538848
how well did that work out for them
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>>104538886
Tanya is verifiably a good girl
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>>104538984
Pretty good I'd say
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>>104538971
Where the fuck is this retardation coming from? JPs do not do cringe lore shit and are fine. It is not really necessary
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so what was the reason why they had to do the chess collab last minute despite it also being myth anniversary?
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>>104538889
>Idea that you don't need to replace your LITERALLY most successful talents with at least something is wishful fucking thinking. EN needs new stars. New blood, New wind.
if holofans had to pay for homos to get ARMIS after losing dumb and dumber EN should get two gens of cute brown girls for losing amesame+faumei
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>>104538958
You need to adjust your expectations, the people who quit HoloEN were worthless and we always hated them, we love Advent and Justice, the saviours of Hololive
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releasing 1 gen a year is not rushing
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>>104538963
gotta vote for shimaidonburi
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>>104539002
kanade and ririka are so hot
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA total Adventcuck humiliation
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>>104538886
Phasing in
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>>104538785
>mori is in charge of the vibe check
>she hangs out with ALL the indies
great filter, yep
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>>104538973
No, it will recommend the song exactly once, and then shunt it into playlist hell for the next few years before randomly recommending it individually again years after you forgot about it.
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>>104538590
Move Risu and Iofi into Myth
Move Kobo and Renei into Promise
Move Kaela into Advent
Move Zeta into Justice
Move Moona, Ollie, Anya into JP Gen 2
Disband Holo ID
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>>104538921
You say that, but then all other corpos fail the basic "default" check and bring ruin to those companies.
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>>104537953
People in this thread are just schizos that don't watch anything, man
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>>104538973
>was morrowind as good as I remember
yes
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>>104539019
It is already the second half of year is anniversary after anniversary + birthday + concert and some other bullshit
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>>104539011
Fan fun fantasy is just lore in a nutshell
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>>104539011
pekora/subaru/etc never ever dropped character in their entire existence. fuck off
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wow that got shot down fast
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>>104538886
the only one of those that's EN5 is Milky, the rest are either whoring it up in phase or whoring it up in a small corpo/dead corpo like nijiEN
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>>104538984
of course it didnt work,they are TRYING
>do a normal gen?
its not working
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>>104539002
They're less popular than the original JP branch, and it's not like there's new people watching them either, they didn't expand their audience
It's an Omega-tier failure
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>>104539026
i am supposed to seethe about this but some how i feel sad for her idk why
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>>104539081
He has been doing it FOR FOUR YEARS

Probably some of the words are already blacklisted by now
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>>104539086
>of course it didnt work,they are TRYING
why do they keep TRYING to reach a normalfag audience when their success has always been with otaku?
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>>104539086
But it worked tho?
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>>104538973
I dunno, but it fucked my usual recommendations too, since the last 2 months. And somehow it does it more frequently on Sundays.
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>>104539086
>they are TRYING
They should stop trying and accept what they're actually good at
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Homofaggot delusions is up on the sky once again. Nijiniggers is using the anti idol approach. Did that successful chess event rattle their asses so much
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>>104539105
If they has actually blacklisted them it wouldn't show up at all
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>>104539018
no I don't need to
cover is not a small indie company
it's not my job to figure their shit out. Whole shitshow is their fuck up in the first place one way or another.
>the people who quit HoloEN were worthless and we always hated them, we love Advent and Justice, the saviours of Hololive
shut the fuck up
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>>104538891
YAGOO said they don't want to debut a new gen before previous gen can stand for themselves.
With that said, no new gen until all Justice girls are above 5K average CCV
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>>104539027
>>104539082
>phase
>new gen
lol, they don't even have merch.
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>>104539018
We only hate nimi here
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>>104538941
>She's never been on that vtuber magazine
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>>104539089
nigga they are on the same level of popularity as rof-mao which debutted 2 years before them. Mind you this is an entire different branch made just for jpop idol bullshit and they are handicapped by AO le disease so yeah thats a good gen with all the debuff they have 2 good singer one good social butterfly and one good brand collector
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>>104539026
hhhmmm why are these graphs so different?
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>>104539090
I feel pity for the Advent girls for they have to deal with fans like Myron
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>>104538958
I swear to God if you plan on how to get them to stay is
>Just give them whatever they want no strings attached

Then I beg you to fuck off. The four girls were going to leave sooner or later, and it's a miracle they didn't do it on 2023
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>>104539089
Can't say about others but Raden definitely pulled new fans in
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>>104539019
I wonder what happened to the managers of the people who graduated in the last year.
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>>104539141
stop he's already dead
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man this thread is moving so slow meanwhile global is at its 3rd thread now
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>>104539106
It's the same mental illness that affects every small business that blows up overnight
They think the sky is the limit, that this growth can go on forever, that they can become the most popular thing in the world because they've tasted that incline
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>>104539039
vibe check is cover's internal thing what the point in actually mentioning it?
also I kinda don't mind a bit of friction for ambitious idol minded people.
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>>104539082
milky is 100% going to flop because doxxfags can't stop overhyping the mori nepotism pairing
remember how ina-sana were supposed to be best friends too? turns out their dynamic is being total bitches to each other (which is probably a fine friendship irl) but it just ruins ina's idol image while not boosting sana.
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>>104539144
maybe they're a good gen but they're still less popular than what came before it and they never reached any new audience, it's just regular Hololive viewers
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>>104539149
>still objecting the 9.5k vs 9.2k likes
Adventkek everyone
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>>104539160
Raden would have pulled more new fans in as a real member of holoJP. She didn't need to be in a weird experimental homocollab branch to talk about art.
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>>104539064
that's beyond the point
>>104539071
lol? you don't even watch them
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>>104538963
good job posting it on global too but weird justice has that low counts
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>>104539164
and this is at it's top speed nowadays
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>>104539164
Towa global or this global
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>>104538751
I'm not touching hand with an otomo, their hands are stiff
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40k VOD from a 3.5 hour, 8k average stream
Yeah, ok dude
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>>104539181
>remember how ina-sana were supposed to be best friends too? turns out their dynamic is being total bitches to each other (which is probably a fine friendship irl) but it just ruins ina's idol image
brown opinion
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>>104538187
Pebbles are happy their oshi works hard, is improving, and seems to be happy with the people around her
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>>104539026
RUMAO! Indie Avengers won!
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>>104539232
He was baiting ignore such post
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>>104539106
>>104539107
>>104539112
its not good enough neither devis nor holox
they cant expand like this
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>>104539180
cover is a talent company, why bother mentioning any talent requirements?

>cute voice
talent
>cute models
talent
>decent singing
talent
>characters
talent

Why bother saying those since those are all basic requirements for talent?
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>>104539225
>1 hour ago
It's going to be in the 100K range after YT finishes processing (takes roughly a day)
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>>104539086
>its not working
but it does
and did
people want to watch hololive because of hololive
that's how you get normies you show them that hololive is great. You don't get into normalfag (not real btw also) audience by showing them what you assume they want. It never happens and will never happen because that's simply not how things work.
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>no en5
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>>104539222
That's not my hand, you silly grem
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>>104539161
managers each have 2 or more girls they oversee so they would just have 1 less to manage
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>>104539246
>they cant expand like this
they just can't expand, the boom is over
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All i have to say is
Regloss >>>>> ROF-MAO
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>>104539026
>>104539210
bots
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>>104539036
>Move Risu and Iofi into Myth
>Move Kobo and Renei into Promise
Do you want to explode?
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been away for a week, did they announce en5 already?
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>>104538205
its called idol larping and yagoo is a loser thinking hololive could be as big as AKB48
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>>104539277
>ROF-MAO
whats that?
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>literal no one asked for this announcement there isn't even catalog bait
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>>104539268
Stealing this
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>>104539265
Imagine calling Phase an opportunity of a lifetime
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>>104539245
I know anon, it should still be said
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>>104539246
that's literally false lol dev_is expanded fuck all
suisei is expanding shit, marine is expanding shit, miko is expanding shit.
The most hololive talents ever. They are pushing into normalfag sphere... AGAIN.
everything management does is interfering and fucking shit up
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The day it all snowballed
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Its funny how hard Advent and Justice are trying to carry HoloEN and they just cant. They lack the charisma and star powder of ProMyth.
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>>104539265
what if she was going to be in a new vshojo gen kek
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>>104539268
How does one tiny rock exude so much aura?
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>>104538857
kys czech tranny
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>>104539315
how much did you get paid to write this
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>>104539254
Nigga, it's already reached the point of glacial growth.
Only 3k extra views in the last 30 odd minutes
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>>104539164
>>104513895
>18 hour thread
>400 posts
???
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>>104539315
STAR POWDER
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>>104539317
She would've grifted it hard like all the other "I was supposed to be in Vshojo but never debuted" rejects
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>powder
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>>104539341
he does it for free
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>>104539315
specially biboo, shes just astroturfed by botting
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>bibjeet lost
Kek
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>>104539347
Fucking monkeys, superman was right
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>>104539247
>cover is a talent company, why bother mentioning any talent requirements?
I didn't? I literally just named what I want and voiced an opinion that it's stupid cover never tried idolshit with EN and literally gave up and started doing shit as if EN is 8 gens of JP when they skipped all the steps JP had. It is very fucking annoying.
>Why bother saying those since those are all basic requirements for talent?
ARE THEY??? ARE THEY BASIC REQUIREMENTS??? EN literally never had talents with unique voices like Marine. Or cute voices like Ayame or even Noel.
Stop saying retarded shit.
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uh oh Biboo schizo melty
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what was the announcement?
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>>104539311
kinda, Fauna was thinking about getting out of there before that. Gura and Mumei was a last moment choice, like there was no place for them anymore.
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I like that we get people criticizing cover for not being idol enough, and also people criticizing them for too much idol, depending on the day and thread. They can't win.
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>>104539397
Nothing important
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>>104539368
while there's some truth to that, the astroturfing worked; she's legitimately one of if not the most popular single talent in EN right now by all measurable metrics, including ones that aren't frequently gamed to our knowledge
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>>104539392
>EN has no talent
Opinions discarded
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if cull is over, why nimi 1:1 ratio?
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>>104539392
>cover never tried idolshit with EN
what does that mean? they do concerts and shit
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>>104538782
I love those data books lol
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>>104539225
meanwhile cc with a 7k sub 2 hour stream, really makes you think
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>>104539315
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>>104539415
>she's legitimately one of if not the most popular single talent in EN right now by all measurable metrics
not true
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>>104539159
My plan is not the point. Point is that EN needs more people and will need more people even with EN5
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>>104539404
>people criticizing cover for not being idol enough
Hilariously stupid falseflag attempt
>also people criticizing them for too much idol
Phasefags and liggers throwing shots
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>>104539315
Lol the top 5 HoloEN members are all in Justice/Myth.
1. Fuwamoco
2. Biboo
3. Raora
4. GG
5. ERB
However they do need help, and a new gen is the only way to lift them all up.
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>>104539426
Like bots
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>>104539397
They had important announcement in description which they removed to only announcement. Probably will be announced later
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REMINDER
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/e5fc5d6e/af2e/4cb2/80aa/1f8120e5ffae/20250520183805075s.pdf
>Our thinking is not to simply replace those who have graduated with new performers. Rather, we are looking to develop the influence of each of our existing performers so that they can realize what they want to do.
>Therefore, rather than unnecessarily injecting new performers, we are shifting to a system that provides more equitable support to the most promising talents currently under our management. On top of that, we need to constantly nurture new performers, as a medium- to long-term strategies.

https://youtu.be/wiXnTY_MH5Y?t=4803
>All I will say is that it'll probably be a while, it'll be a hot minute [...]
>I can neither confirm nor deny, but I think right now there were no lies being told when it was stated that "we're going to be looking after the people that are here right now instead of just getting new people in and trying to rely on profits through that", I guess, if that makes any sense. They were not fibbing, it's gonna be a minute at least for EN, so I hope you guys are comfy with the girls that are here right now. We're doing our best! [...]
>I can't confirm or deny anything, they may have been cooking something behind my back that I know nothing about, but from what I know and have heard.
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>>104539315
there's simply no good antagonist in vtubing anymore. we need ONE good heel
promyth had to fight off covid and travel bans and incompetent management. jp side had to fight off bugmen chinks.
there are no battles left to be fought and no reasons for fans to care
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>>104539432
everybody in hololive does concerts
what about "idol unit" is hard to understand?
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>>104538493
You are the type to get mad at your boyfriend for what they did in a dream
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>>104539225
shhhh, youre not supposed to mention it
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>>104539430
>Whole holo + homo box altogether at this moment
>Still loses to Nimi's peak tonight
Sad...
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>>104539462
Nimi is the antagonist
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https://x.com/hakuikoyori/status/1967419126395306182
>※ヒント:こよりだけではない
Koyori running some big collab again probably
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>>104539491
What idol units are there in Hololive?
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>phasefags are harassing and doxxing their own talents
What's going on? what prompted this behavior?
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>>104539461
This is the way to go
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>>104539421
so you have no argument lmao? fuck off then dumb retard
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cover should hire the girls from new jeans for EN5 I heard theyre jobless
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>>104539499
Nimi already lost two hours ago nigga
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I don't care about your seething and shitting
Promise all the way baby
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>>104539415
The only good thing biboo schizo does with his regular biboo melty is making people ignore whatever bullshit he spews which works positively for both pebbles and biboo now. It was fun earlier when she was a runt but now its like a monkey screeching for no good reason
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>>104539461
>Trust me Guys EN5 right before the concert to do watchalong
>Trust EN5 during the EN concert
> Trust me EN5 right after the concert
> Mori is going to announce EN5
>Both Shiori and GG has ??? on there schedule it's EN5
> Trust EN5 after the chess collab?
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>>104539462
the storyline in EN was supposed to be unitychads defeating the unicorns and welcoming TEMPUS to holopro but it didn't work out. They tried rebooting the narrative with ARMIS ERB and Shiori but it just isn't sticking.
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>>104539516
/pol/tard shit
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>>104539002
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo they're just a pet project
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>>104539455
>top 5
>Raora
>ERB
?
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>>104539491
Every gens are effectively an idol unit.
Just make it clear, what exactly do you want them to do?
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>>104539426
Cull isn't totally over, and it perma deleted some of her viewers that where seen as bots, so even if the cull is over, she won't get back all of her watchers entirely.
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brats lost
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>>104539539
Ah i thought it was luxiem defeating selen and vshojo huggers and ushering a new era for nijiEN while riding kuzuha's dick with meloco??
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>>104539368
>>104539415
>meanwhile all your nijinigs that you botted to hell over 10x their regular ccv are still nobodies
kek what a fucking joke
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>>104539400
>Gura
was already thinking of leaving in 2023, it was not a "last moment choice"
Only reason she stayed as long as she did, rather than graduating in 2024, was to get all the prerecorded obligations including holofes and myth 3D anniv out
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>>104539462
Isn't that fine? Why do the newer gens have to struggle or have to fight against anyone?
Be happy they can enjoy all of the benefits the older gens worked so hard to earn
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>>104539247
>>cute voice
>talent
>>cute models
>talent
>>decent singing
>talent
>>characters
>talent
>Why bother saying those since those are all basic requirements for talent?
This reads like a seething 1view mad at Holo.
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>>104539555
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>>104539265
Ah yeah, the trustworthy and reliable source of "Cunny News Network"
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>CCGG seethe into Holoseethe into Bibooseethe then loop back

Why is this too common
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>>104539566
Kinda funny how Genos VA knows about Hakos Baelz and watches her stream.

>https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Kaito-Ishikawa/
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>>104539309
Maitake
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>>104539565
need saba stream to know for sure
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>>104539575
I don't think that was holoEN management's plan, personally
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>>104539462
EN V-Tubing since 2024 has been little more than a humilliation ritual, that's why these "Champions" are propped up here and there.

But if Doki with the single biggest dramabuff in history didn't prop the indie scene, nothing will.
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>>104539516
I don't know and I don't care and also phase should graduate to make more room for Hololive
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>>104539555
Raora: most watched AFO short, highest CCV of any Justice 3D debut.
ERB: 2nd highest 3D debut despite having no Hololive guests and only Holostars. And still gets high ccv on many streams without bots or raids.
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>>104539608
no one watches anything else here. Zero clue about phase, nijiwho? and indies get thrown around left and right
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>>104539588
Where's storyschizo when you need him
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>>104539461
>>Our thinking is
WISHFUL THINKING
what makes you think that fucking retards who birthed fucking OMEGA who almost ruined their whole branch and then were so busy sucking their own dicks and taking things for granted that they lost all their popular talents know what the fuck they are doing? They don't. They never did.
>Rather, we are looking to develop the influence of each of our existing performers so that they can realize what they want to do
It's a meaningless corpo statement and means nothing without specifics.
So far by the way their efforts to "develop" anything ended up in failure and management REALLY fucking wants to ruin hololive in general because they are that stupid.
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>>104539461
>lose 4 of your most beloved iconic talents
>sit on your ass for an entire year+ doing nothing
tell me how this is a smart business move? what other company would think this is acceptable?
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>>104539608
because those are the most retarded fanbases and they keep biting bait
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>>104539462
Niji and nimi are still there tho?
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>>104539462
Sameko Saba
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>>104539565
Something else perma deleted people and you can't put it on jewtube lmfao
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>>104539592
they arent even trying to hide it at this point
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>>104539600
That 10 hour jerma stream was a trip
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>no Biboo streams in 2 days
thank you Cover
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>>104539533
He's not wrong when he points out that she gets botted. It just doesn't matter, she'd usually still come out on top even without the bots
>>104539584
>lure people in to watching a loser
>"wow this person sucks" (closes stream)
>lure people in to watching an actual entertaining streamer
>"I should watch this person more" (subscribes)
real mystery
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>>104539647
i have seen the exact reply before
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>>104539268
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>>104539620
MINDSHARE BROS
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>>104539455(me)
Meant to say Justice/Advent.
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>>104539647
you're right but you won't convince the SEA tribalists in this thread
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feels like we're back to 2022 again but without nijien dominance. All we need now is new stars debut
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>>104539639
>most watched AFO short
lmao, what even is this
>highest CCV of any Justice 3D debut.
least viewed Justice 3D debut you mean
>2nd highest 3D debut despite having no Hololive guests and only Holostars
okay so youre just a retard
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>>104539647
Femoid fingers wrote this post
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>>104539658
Niji EN is fucking dead, and holo JP is holding fine against niji JP
Ex-holos aren't a threat except to schizos
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>>104539701
Being blind and deaf to nijinigger propaganda is a good thing
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>>104539651
damn how dare they make an effort to please the current girls
they should just fucking accelerate like in nijisanji and don't bother if people start dropping like flies
also they should start paying dividends, and cut all expenses on the talents
am i right or am i right fellow hologods?
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>>104539651
In part this is true, BUT, you should think about what happened to these girls who decided to leave in first place (7 talents+2 managers), before hiring more people.
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>>104539605
he talks mostly about pippa so yes, it's trusworthy
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>>104539608
cuz theres no en5
no new topic, no new drama
WERE STUCK IN TIMELOOP
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>Beats Biboo in Crab Game
>Beats Biboo in Chess
>Beats Biboo in Silksong
>Beats Biboo in League
Man I guess GG is truly THE Gamer of HoloEN
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>>104539559
I literally gave you a fucking list tho of what I want?
>effectively an idol unit
that's a big stretch if you look at how EN gens are.
>>104539506
You mean JP? They literally do not need them because of how idolcoded they are by default. Plus they have a lot more popular and more importantly loyal talents than EN.
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>>104539735
pointing out the hubris of cover doesn't make you a nijinigger
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>>104539728
Not that dead
Don't be like Hitler who decided Britain was pretty much dead only to get butt fucked by them a couple years later
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>>104539608
Literal faggots.
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Why is /HiRyS/ melting down over a collab with a random male?
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>>104539742
What effort?
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>>104539491
It’s not possible for EN due to logistical issues. Regloss can still hold a concert as big as the entire EN branch, yet they aren’t a huge success by any means.
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>>104539759
Funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say
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>>104539752
>holo vs holo
yawn
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>>104539758
So EN aren't idol enough like JP, they need idol units, but JP doesn't have idol units because they don't need them because they're so idolcoded?
Can you explain what being an idol actually means?
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>>104539765
It's not a collab and the fact that you're calling it a collab makes me think you're the one shitting HIRYS in the first place
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>>104539588
some people like CGDCT slice of life
but a lot more people like shounen battle anime
hint: the latter category is like 100x larger
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>>104539787
It definitely is a collab, he will be in voice chat with them
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>>104539635
>But if Doki with the single biggest dramabuff in history didn't prop the indie scene, nothing will.
The indie scene is too large, diverse, and divisive to propped up by a singular person tbhdesu
It's not like corpos where they have shared "box", if you're indie the closest thing you have to that is maybe 2-4 friends who also indies that you have a small level of viewership overlap with
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>>104539588
no competition = no innovation = stagnation = eventual decline
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>>104539789
They should play Chrono gear if they like battle shounen so much
That game's story is battle shounen to a T
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>>104539780
Bibjeet lost get over it cuck saba mogged her subs in less than 24 hours kek
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>>104539765
its a day ending in y
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>>104539783
Thats because en audience is at most 1/5 as large as JP. EN5 wont fix that. So the argument about EN5 being "idol" is dumb since you dont consider any of the current EN doing idol work as idols because they're not as big as JP.
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>>104539566
i think one punch man SUCKS
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>>104539812
JP has had no competition since 2019 just like EN has had no competition since 2020
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>>104539701
Smell like a retarded nijinigger in there
How do you cope with all the girls saying they are happy about the current status quo? you shit yourself and call them bootlickers?
>>104539773
Concerts? events? The girls clearly being happy and enjoying an increase kind of unity?
You're more than willing to shit on cover manifesting random bullshit out of your ass but the shit mori said somehow is not to be acknowledged?
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>>104539805
I watched the Miko collab, nigga.

The only time he ever talked with the talents was a 1 minute interview at the end.
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>>104539622
it could've happened to literally anyone.
>>
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>104539268
This is true, nobody in EN can reach her CCV.
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>>104539742
1 gen a year is not fucking accelerating
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>>104539839
>How do you cope with all the girls saying they are happy about the current status quo?
What does the girls being happy have to do with Cover growing as a company?
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>>104539742
The fans only watch Hololive because of the Holo Box. The EN box is currently Meh with no real draws (draws as in they can make people come watch them on any channel no matter what).
How do you fix this? Add more people into the EN box.
Why? Because it increases your chances of finding another instant hit like Gura and Fuwamoco, and also give more collab partner variety and options to the EN Box.
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>>104539687
I doubt it but I said similar things before.
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>>104539850
Happy for her. Remember the doomposting a few months ago.
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>>104539818
ennapag this is pathetic you're just throwing everything at the wall without even knowing what you're talking about
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>>104539880
We don't need more HoloEN members, HoloEN is stronger than it's ever been
Until we get more HoloEN members, then those members will have saved HoloEN
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>>104539877
is that even a real question nigger?
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>>104539588
Because if you don't have adversity you won't get kino story arcs that get people invested.
Remember a good portion of people who stuck around with hololive back in 2020 did so because they didn't want to big bad pooh and his Zhang army to win
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>>104539839
>How do you cope with all the girls saying they are happy about the current status quo? you shit yourself and call them bootlickers?
are you retarded? how is it in any way relevant?
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>>104539837
>JP has had no competition since 2019
you don't believe that
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>>104539848
But it didn't
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>>104539910
Yes
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>>104539839
Yes the girls are happy but it’s the same as in previous years.
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>>104539850
Oga's bitch
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>>104539268
If management had any brains, they would be pushing her as much as possible. They fucked up with Gura but she didnt care anyway. Biboo wants to work and all the other girls love her also.
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>>104539842
just post the videos
it was like 15 minutes total talking with them
https://youtu.be/WiuXHt1tkMg
https://youtu.be/2f5Dq-HY0w4
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>>104539775
>It’s not possible for EN due to logistical issues
It literally is possible but it requires a bit more efforts from cover than bare minimum
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>>104539897
Uh oh pebblepaggy seethe
>saba 1.37mik
>bibjeet 800k
Kek
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>>104539877
>>104539916
Spoken like a real nijitranny lmfao
>unhappy talents
>talents leave
Nigger lol
>>104539937
Bullshit nigger
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>>104539462
There are still battles being fought.
When Mooms and Fauna got their emo choreo denied just because it wasn't homogeneously idol coded, the villains won.
It's a culture war and the west lost to the dirty old japanese businessmen.
Sometimes anime girls trying their best is not enough.
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please don't release a new gen cover-sama
our by the beet organs are already getting smothered
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>>104539912
Sounds like "people" are dramafags, then
AKB had no real antagonist and yet they got their beautiful storyline just fine. Just find a grand goal to aim at.
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>>104539969
How is the girls being happy growing the company?
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could management maybe be waiting for the US tariff situation to be resolved before debuting EN5? revenue from debut merch is likely where they get a return on their initial investments into new gens
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>>104539855
Yes it is
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>>104539981
We need new gens to attract new schizos though
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>>104539744
lol think? they thought enough. they need action
fuckers were thinking through 2022-2025 and that's the result
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>>104539994
Wtf do you think would happen if they were unhappy nigger
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>>104539981
I just want more good singers
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>>104539906
Lol you must be an undercover Niji fan who is purposely giving the worst advice to Hololive in order to make them flop. Lucky for you, there's a lot of idiots in the Holofanbase that also think everything is fine. Hell's you could have 10 more EN graduations in the next month and they'd still think HoloEN is doing fine.
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>>104539880
>dogfuckers adding any value to the EN box
you're delusional
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>>104539986
There is no grand goal so you have to invent scapegoats to get mad about
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>>104539997
Retard
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>>104538006
What a fag
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>When Mooms and Fauna got their emo choreo denied
No, you fucking retard, the song was a last minute choice they were made to do and they COULDN'T GET CHOREO AT ALL. Fuck off and stop talking about what you don't know about.
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Biboo 1 Million when, ERB is gonna catch her at this rate
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>>104539968
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>>104539999
real, im so done hearing the same shit everyday
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>>104539994
Did you mean "the group"? Because I don't give a fuck about "the company"
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>>104540015
How is that relevant? Doesn't matter if they're happy or not, the company still isn't growing
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>>104539969
I started watching with Advent
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>>104539996
>no EN5 until 2028
Grim
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcApxr5heQ
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>>104539742
Cover unironically should try harder to penetrate EN market.
Fucker you are so dumb. They literally THEMSELVES acknowledged that they had no strategy and were just strolling along with unexpected myth popularity.
And I said it before but hololiveEN competition is not nijiEN phase or indies lmao it's whole western streaming scene.
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>>104539999
It's funny how every single member of HoloEN has her dedicated schizo at this point
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>>104540041
damn even combined, irys mogged those shitters...
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>>104539880
The box doesn't need more members, it needs more events. Council newfags and Justice newfags have an attachment to the gens older than theirs because they had events like OG EN Minecraft and ENReco to help push the cross-gen interactions and form new bonds with new members. Advent newfags don't because there was no box event when Advent debuted, so they have minimal overlap with other gens.
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>>104539986
>AKB had no real antagonist
The fuck are you talking about, they compete against each other all the time
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schizo thread huh
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>>104540065
The company is in fact growing
I'm so sorry cover isn't hoarding the profits just for the CEO to pay himself 20 billion yens and dividend
>>104540079
Nobody cares about the fucking western streaming scene, nobody wants to deal with it
It's full of niggers and political grifter that's not what Hololive is about
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>>104540113
We love arguing the same time loops here
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>>104540105
Who cares about events when there's no interesting members in the company
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>>104539986
suisei did this with her cinderella story of being an indie getting rescued by cover. but she still worried A LOT about her narrative once she did budokan. like what if fans leave her because she originally declared that as her end goal? so she tentatively threw out tokyo dome but she's pretty lost right now too for what her own story should be
but i think that already separates her from the other chuubas because she tries to craft something cohesive. most other chuubas just click go live w/o any long term plan
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>>104540113
What no En5 does to a motherfucker
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>>104540016
What's that?
You want 5 more ERBs?
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>>104540067
New President wouldn't be sworn in until January 2029.
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>>104540120
>The company is in fact growing
EN certainly isnt
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>>104540127
>there's no interesting members in the company
mask off nigger
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Is this new web novel thing supposed to be like Hogan's heroes but definitely not nazis?
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>>104540032
watch streams nigga
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>>104540079
>And I said it before but hololiveEN competition is not nijiEN phase or indies lmao it's whole western streaming scene.
Their CCVs aren't inferior to the top Western female streamers, VTuber or not, so I don't see how that changes anything unless you want them to compete against male streamers like that ishowspeed guy or whoever is on top now (which they never will be able to)
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>>104540041
Uh oh cratpaggy
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>>104540127
>scarlet wandkek
5/5 Cerulean Cup stands strong
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ITT: homopaggers deflecting from their inevitable flop in two weeks kek
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>>104538070
It's useless anon, Biboo is this thread favorite, wait untill she announces her marriage or something and people are going to listen
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>>104540153
>EN certainly isnt
They sold almost twice the previous concert
So yeah they are faggot nigger
Show me anything vtuber in the west able to pull this off
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>>104540155
You can scream and cry anti all you want, EN roster is very weak right now
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>>104540145
n-no yagoo please...
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>>104540105
>more events
not enough members
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>>104540193
>twice the sales
>half the buyers
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>>104540171
Looked like just a slice of life manga with some other elements.
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>>104540193
>whataboutism
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>>104539928
Literally happened to Gura with "a" and to a much bigger effect than anything dev_shit ever did
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IRYS IS ON HER PERIOD
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>>104540011
Not thinking gave you Tempus in 2022, believing they could match Luxiem. Now, where are we now?

Thankfully they kinda fixed it with Advent and Justice during 2023-2024, but at the same time people left (4 of them were from HoloEN, equivalent to an entire gen). They can't keep filling gaps like that. Do you think this is Nijisanji pulling wave after wave with 3views vtubers at most?
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IRYS WAS BEING MASSAGED BY A MAN
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As far as I can remember, the terms used to refer to live streamers were:
Niconico Douga Live Host
Twitch Streamer
YouTube " YouTube Live" service launched Liver

. The terms were different. Because Vtuber Kizuna AI was primarily a video streamer, they weren't recognized as live streamers in the early days. Nijisanji emerged as a platform for full-fledged Vtuber live streaming, and since they were YouTube streamers, they continued to be referred to as "Livers."

Later, when Hololive's members, including Gemazu, were all in,
they collaborated with Akihabara Atre. Their key visuals were drawn by artists from The Idolmaster, drawing attention. Around the time they launched their idol line-up, The Idolmaster, Love Live, and AKB were at their peak, and favorite members of idol groups were referred to as "oshimen," so Hololive members also began to be referred to as "Holomen." Back then
, they weren't called "talents," and YAGOO also referred to Hololive members as "members. "

So, since Hololive's talents
are "holo" live "members," most people have always referred to them as "Holomen."
Hololive members also refer to themselves as "Holomen," so those who joined later tend to adopt the term.
Recently, as talent activities have expanded to a wider range, management has begun referring to Hololive members as "talents" when speaking to clients or the general public. That's the impression I get. They
continue to refer to them as "Holomen" in in-house programs, but tend to be referred to as "talents" when they go out.
YAGOO also started calling Hololive members "talents" on the agency's 5th anniversary program.

Nijisanji members have always been referred to as "livers" by Rikkun, fellow streamers, and listeners alike.

However, as others have pointed out, "liver" can be a vulgar word in some countries, so they are often consistently referred to as "streamers" regardless of platform. In the case of Hololive, perhaps due to the prevalence of otaku idol culture, "Holomen" is also commonly used.

That's roughly what happened
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>>104540145
I found this nice British(?) hag on YouTube the other week because she did an awesome cover of kh3 Don't Think Twice and I feel bad her views are so low. Sorta wish it was her instead of ERB
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>>104540191
Why are napcucks like this?
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>>104540197
>>104540232
>>104540236
Cope and seethe retards, HoloEN wins
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>>104540241
Maitake is not a
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>>104540145
>5 more ERBs before HoloEN explodes
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>>104539783
I think you are missing one simple fact - JP has 3 times more talents. That plus being more into idol culture by default simply by being japanese gives them huge advantage.
That's why you need to push for that on EN side. Without it shit will not move. You need to search for both passionate and skilled people.
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>>104540279
>three weeks to sell out special limited time merch
Lmfao
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>>104540296
Why can't you answer one simple question?
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>>104540296
Begone larping nigger.
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>>104540155
This anon is right, cover shouldn't debut more members and should concentrate is the ones who are in right now.
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>>104540112
They don't make each other "antagonist" or "heel". They are friendly rivals. You didn't see Acchan and Yuko treating each other like enemies they had to beat, for example
(Not to mention that the OP >>104539462 clearly meant external rivals instead of internal competitions)
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>>104540105
You can't have more large events (as in more than 6 people) if half of the EN members won't join in because of one reason or another. But if you get a new Gen then you have more people who can join and fill in for those members who don't join events.
And you also need more members who have the desire to organize events and you need staff willing to help them out.
ENReco was created by management and it's main purpose was to sell merch related to the event. No EN Holomen came up with that idea.
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>>104539928
it's like 1 minute of fame vs actually pushing into normalfag sphere lol
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>>104540327
They should debut heel holos and work the whole thing like a wrestling event
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>>104540296
>skilled people
you don't need that there are less than 5 people in jp who have real singing skills
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>>104540346
But it did
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I really did miss these instant waiting room recoveries
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>>104539969
hiring new talents has literally nothing to do with any of this
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>>104540347
No, cover should close debuts until 2030.
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>>104540197
>Got higher YoY watch hours AND CCV outside of the month they had to take a break from streaming for concert
>The same still hold true if you remove Biboo and Mori from dataset in case you want to cry "b-but bots"
Yeah, "very weak", indeed
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I miss the culled numbers....
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>>104540172
You watch streams faggot, what I said was correct.
It's Not a Phase was a last minute choice and they weren't able to get real choreography for it so they had to put in that lazy bullshit that they did in the live. Breaking Dimensions in general was fucking rushed.
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>>104540385
That's because of Hololive brand loyalty
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Cover keeps talking about "taking more care of the current girls" but the current girls aren't bringing in new viewers or money. How does that justify wasting resources taking care of them?
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>>104540105
Advent and Justice probably aren't allowed to host or organize events because of Cover's retarded Seniority rule. Only the Old members like Mori can do them, eventhough there's far more popular members in the newer gens who could sell an event better.
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IRyS has answered her calling as a geometry.
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>>104540385
Because of the brand, not the streamers retard
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>the current roster aren't bringing in viewers or money
but enough about nijiEN
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List of streamers that should be purged from Cover for poor performance and only leeching off hololive
All of ID except Kaela
All homostars
Sora
Roboco
Aki
Matsuri
Choco
Botan
Polka
Nene
Laplus
Lui
All of Regloss
All of Flowglow
Shiori
ERB
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>>104540415
You probably aren't allowed to go to the bathroom alone.
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>>104540391
>>104540172
>>104540032
>>104539971
https://youtu.be/2TvagdCwYns?t=7562
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Looks at this clip of Kronii being funny and shut up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plIRXkN7IgI
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>>104540410
>but the current girls aren't bringing in new viewers or money. How does that justify wasting resources taking care of them?

Complaining about the girls and not about dubais? Really nigga?
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>>104540252
oh they thought long and hard about it lmao due to a popular demand.
they literally do not need to think AT ALL they just need to listen to what talents told them and act accordingly.
Covers biggest problem that they literally can not recognize when they need to shut up and listen. They hired a lot of "important" big suit people that know nothing at all about streaming and it really fucked shit up for everyone.
>They can't keep filling gaps like that
they literally have no choice
>Do you think this is Nijisanji pulling wave after wave with 3views vtubers at most
how is it in any way comparable?
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>>104540468
>I say the concert this year didn't go the way it did last year which I think was a bit smoother
>It's tough so many people work really hard at this concert and I don't put the blame anywhere
>This year was a bit a bit different and lots of things were last minute
>I was a little frustrated with it's not a phase because I feel like the song wasn't really understood
>but there wasn't much time to have adjustments for like our choreography
>I was like why are we dancing like Idols this is not an idol song
>I do get a little frustrated when I'm like this is not even close to what this should be
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>>104540410
Cover is nice, what else I can say?
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>>104539651
>tell me how this is a smart business move?
You build up and invest into the talents that you do have to reach similar levels of "beloved" and "iconic" as the guys who left
You do some reflection on *why* the other guys left and figure out how you can improve so that you aren't in a similar situation in a year from now with retard like (you) demanding EN6 cuz more people left
>>sit on your ass
They've quite literally done the exact opposite since June
>ENreco 2
>Dodgers Hololive Night
>MythMash
>Justice 3D debuts
>All for One
>Advent EP
>Advent's lore videos
>Advent anniversary 3D
>Advent vs Justice chess
>The weekly animated comics
>Myth anniversary 3Dlive next week
>Promise recording for their anniversary
To say a they're "sitting on their ass" is fucking a lie lmao
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https://youtu.be/-K7DDOkLXlE
>FBK and ayame were hanging out at Suisei's place randomly
>They suddenly want to eat takoyaki
>Instantly decides to call 5 other holos and do a takoyaki party at Suisei's place
>talks about sukiyaki there
>instantly plans for a sukiyaki party the next day
Why can't EN be like this?
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>>104540314
How long does other companies sell out then? Exactly.
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>>104540486
This, management are retarded and don't realize that the girls know how to run the business better than they do. If they had put Coco in charge 5 years ago hololive wouldn't be in such a dire situation right now.
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>>104540120
ah you are so dumb. it's not about "dealing" with the scene it's about audience...
where the fuck do you think EN audience is coming from? space?
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>>104540459
>Sora
May you rot in hell
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>>104540503
>You build up and invest into the talents that you do have to reach similar levels of "beloved" and "iconic" as the guys who left
not possible when those talents dont actually have any talent
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>>104540506
Because they live in 5 (6?) different fucking countries
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>>104540503
lol the amount of Advent because fuck the girls who made it possible right
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>>104540506
99% of the western population don't live within a 1 hour train ride of each other unlike japan
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>>104540528
Remind me what her numbers are again.
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>>104540459
Add Haachama
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>>104540459
Funny thing is, Sakura Miko and Suisei are gonna leave before anyone on this list. Kek!
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>>104540105
Are you even watching hololive? How great was it when all ENs were busy with 3Ds and concerts and barely anybody was streaming with no new gen to fill the gaps?
EN streaming schedule is still grim as fuck.
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>>104540497
HOLOLIVE ANIME SOON
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>>104540506
To start, most of them don't live in the same city.
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>>104540548
There wont be any /#/ if she didnt decide to work with holo in first place. Mind you cover was a sinking boat back then and they had asked multiple people and only sora responded
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>>104540506
back when we had two chuubas who were close enough to each other that they would visit each other (kronii vancouver, fauna seattle),
they ended up fucking each other's boyfriend, resulting in the greatest meltdown in holoen history
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>>104540538
>>104540543
7/15 EN live in japan and ina has been in japan for the last 10 months so she might as well live there
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>>104540600
In a real company, she would be cast out for not catching up to her current coworkers. She's lucky Cover is a welfare state
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>>104540560
director fbking will never let micomet sink
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>>104540573
Mori,Bae,Irys,fwmc,Biboo,Raora live in Tokyo
Ina, Kiara, Kronii, Shiori, Nerissa, CC, GG and ERB don't, but they are in japan for a considerable amount of time, they could do it if they were actual friends, most of them aren't
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>>104540651
Homework hate. Cover black company!!!
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>>104540650
zeta lives in tokyo too
WHY ARE YOU EXCLUDING ID YOU RACIST
SHE'S WHITE AND SPEAKS ENGLISH TOO
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>>104540642
yeah what happened to the vtubers in real company anon? negligible , to the moon???
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>>104540637
Clearly Cover must mandate that all future hires live in japan
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BAU BAU NAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYd_ijtM12M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYd_ijtM12M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYd_ijtM12M
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>>104540685
Not white and not EN, but sure she can go to the hypothetical party
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>>104540529
no talent is just a fucking cope you can't even measure
and those original guys are still here mori ina and even bae are more beloved and iconic than everyone who left but gura
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>>104540600
sora is the only member who got cover stocks. she's richer than even suisei. girl should just end on a high note and retire before she enters her whore phase
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>>104540651
probably has to record more stupid advent justice comic lore
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>>104540651
busy being bad at chess
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>>104540651
Biboo has been busy for 3 months now…
bweh
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>>104540179
It's not that I want them to but they need to do it if they want to grow.
Or more like they already are.
Cover really needs to do some fucking work because their current image is basically niji-lite aka exploitative weird japanese almost black company. And that was BEFORE all the graduations. western audience will not give them the benefit of a doubt like at all. Cover needs to stop being retarded and be actually better than anything anybody can imagine. Actually they should've done it right after nijiEN exploded the scene. But they in their unlimited arrogance thought that their shit is for sure great... when biggest fucking graduations were on the horizon.
It's rather complicated situation actually.
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https://youtu.be/ZSUy8e5o4i4

SEXXXXXXX
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>>104540650
Biboo, Mori, Bae and IRyS hang out with each other frequently. Kronii too when she is in JP.
Still, that's only 5 out of 20 members
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>EN is shit because they treated all talents like people and not just put all of their eggs into one basket
>EN is shit because (subjective noun here)
>EN is shit because they're not suffering a miserable existence like back in 2020

Really good arguments in this thread
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>>104540744
Bro you are a fucking moron
The entire creative industry works around talent. Talent is something you have, or you don't. You can't just pick up any shitter and turn them into a star. You need to FIND the stars. HoloEN doesn't really have many stars anymore
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In 570 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3j4J0k_IA
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>>104540773
ok ill be back...
WTF Cover AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>104540651
but holoEN is not doing enough idol stuff...
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>>104540771
>Cover really needs to do some fucking work because their current image is basically niji-lite aka exploitative weird japanese almost black company
Maybe to antis /here/, but in the VTubing community at large? Not really
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>>104540193
>They sold almost twice the previous concert
they could've sell that even a year ago... actually because of gura mumei and fauna they could've sell even fucking MORE.
stop being stupid.
why the fuck are you judging grows by a limited amount of fucking tickets? stupid fuck.
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>>104540773
she popped my cherry into her mouth
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>>104540791
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>>104540734
Thanks anon
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>>104540191
Sure don't projecting napcuck
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I've been on the Tower so often that I entirely forgot about the "Always prepare for shitty doomposting threadsa after a hyped HoloEN stream is done" rule
Never change, /vt/
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>>104540771
>Cover really needs to do some fucking work because their current image is basically niji-lite aka exploitative weird japanese almost black company.

No it isn't
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>>104540315
you are asking the wrong questions
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>>104540529
ERB has "talent" in her pinky finger than Gura/Fauna/Mumei had COMBINED
It'd easier to take you seriously if you just said "my favorite left so EN is shit now :( " instead of this gay LARP
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>>104540812
>because their current image is basically niji-lite aka exploitative weird japanese almost black company
L
O
L
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Fauna was a talentless boring shitter who didn't actually have fans
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>>104540836
cute diamond dogs
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Who did better this year, in relative terms? HoloEN, JP or ID?
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>>104540791
>talent is what I, a thirdie in a mud hut shoveling garbage for a living, decide exists or not
let's also just ignore all the numbers that prove otherwise
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>>104538158
Still trying? Really anything just to hurt Advent eh.
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>>104539017
>EN needs new stars
YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED
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anons waiting for their oshi to get announced on EN5 today status?
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>>104540867
You said HoloEN needed more idolshit but you can't even tell anyone what idols are
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>Bae 6k
>Irys 6.3k
>Nimi is going to mog all promise traitors who stream tonight
Feel good
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>>104540651
Literal who?
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>>104540323
Brother everyone except Justice, has been in Holo for more than 2 years. While some "old" members can have a slight comeback or late awakening (like Aki did at the end of 2023 or Miko/Suba after 2022) none of them are gonna reach the levels of Fauna, Mooms, Fuwamoco and definitely not Gura.

If the fanbase has seen them for 2+ years and still aren't clinging onto them in great numbers (without bots) that's because they just don't have the draw that the top members had. Only new Gens have a better chance of giving you that spark, that new sensation hype that draws in viewers.
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>>104540792
it's happening?
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>>104540506
>Why can't EN be like this?
Mori/Irys/Bae/Biboo/FWMC literally do this but you don't watch streams
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>>104540782
>subjective noun
>A "subjective noun" is actually called a subjective case noun or, more formally, a nominative case noun, and it refers to a noun or pronoun that functions as the subject of a verb, performing the action in a sentence. While nouns themselves don't change form for subjective or objective cases, pronouns like "I" or "he" do, becoming "me" or "him" when used as objects instead of subjects.
i'm honestly too ESL to understand to this even with AI explanation. examples?
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>>104540518
but literally everything we know about management proves they are indeed retarded
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>>104540880
Yeah there's numbers that prove that talent of HoloEN members
Fucking idiot
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>>104540911
>Fauna
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>>104539106
otaku audience have no future
mainstream is necessary for long term success
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>>104540782
>EN is shit because I gotta take a shit
brb
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>>104540518
coco put herself in charge of herself and ended up as a JAV whore.
or are you saying that's the play?
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>>104540931
Shit I was going to say adjective
>boring
>loud
>annoying

All that bullshit that "people" use to try and shit on HoloEN, things that depend on each one's taste
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>>104540854
Why would you go to leddit central
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>>104540812
no I'm talking about western streaming scene in general
VTubing community at large is hololive community already lol
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>i want the company to grow dude i don't care about anything else
>i'm holofans i swear!
>the company MUST GROW!
weird angle to falseflag with
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>>104540868
How does NIjisanji have more presence on google than Hololive?
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>>104540868
lel hololive just doesn't matter
They don't make money and their viewership is at an all time low.

Suisewi should jump ship already, I'm tired of her being in this sinking ship.
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>>104540854
i'm here because i got banned for saying i didn't like a stream
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>>104540773
JESUS MC FUCKING CHRIST MY DICK
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>>104540948
ok can you say that ina and mori (both a part of what built holoEN) have no talent and the numbers prove that?
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>>104540860
of course it is
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>>104540911
FuwaMoco is literally bottom 5 these days
Biboo already surpassed Faumei long ago
Both Mori and IRyS are currently stronger than Fauna was last year
Gura is the only one of the graduates to truly be a tier above our current EN first army
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>>104540998
Most of Western streaming scene doesn't even know Cover exists
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>>104541027
Go back cuck
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>>104540923
when the fuck is the last time they've had an offcollab at one of their houses?
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>>104541052
NIMISEETHE
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>>104540948
>Yeah there's numbers that prove that talent of HoloEN members
Yeah and those number are all superior to the ex-members how you claim are more "talented" so what's your point?
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>>104540897
jesus because it doesn't matter what idols are.
I literally gave you a list of what I want and you go and ask "but what do you want tho?"
are you fucking retarded?
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>>104541033
no you cant say that
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>>104541018
With how many concerts Nijisanji is pumping out, Suisei will unironically get a whole ass Tokyo Dome for her instead of waiting for Cover to get one for her at Budokan
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>>104541079
So Hololive needs to be more idol but it doesn't matter what idol means?
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>104540931
english really do be like that sometimes
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>>104540649
Miko said she was gonna bail after 10 years. She just made year 7, and year 10 would be in 2027, so she's gone in 3 years. Suisie is most likely gone by next year as she knows the value of her IP and knows she can use it to do things that she can't do while in Holo.
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>>104541018
suisei can't leave because most of her audience watch her for miko interactions and hololive has an ex-holo collab ban. she can convince miko to leave too but then they will be labeled as unironic akatsuki who betrayed their family
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>>104541072
ex holos seem much happier, don't they?
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>>104541026
> i got banned for saying i didn't like a stream
post it here
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>>104538654
Otomo this is shameful
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>>104540931
>it refers to a noun or pronoun that functions as the subject of a verb, performing the action in a sentence
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rrat: Cover is slowing EN debuts because right now their US expansion strategy is in trouble due to tariffs so they're taking a wait and see approach
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>>104541118
no not really, not aqua seems kinda miserable
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>holo vs holo spam the entire thread
I don't even need to watch the collab I already know it was kino
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>>104541085
Yeah, but Suisei will always be grateful to Cover for saving her career and propelling her to stardom, while remembering that Niji rejected her when she needed supports the most
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>>104541114
Suisei fans hate Miko and Hololive. They'd be happy if the pink leech fucked off.

>>104541085
Yeah, going from Hololive to Nijisanji would be a be step up, especially since suisei wants the normie audience.
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>>104541120
nah i don't rotate my ips so mods have my banned post history and would be able to correlate my posts here too.
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>>104541118
lol
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>>104540968
simply untrue, the normalfag audience will always be better catered to by facecam dramafag political hot take reactiotubers. hololive has been successful by catering to the weird antisocial people who don't like that style of content and trying to incorporate it, like by hiring Jurard, ruins the original appeal without ever capturing the allure that some retard gaping his mouth into the camera can create for normalfags
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>>104541048
yeah instead they shit on hololive
what kind of normie content have you even watched to know what western scene thinks about anything?
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>>104541134
BWAHAHAHAHAHA ENNAPAG THIS IS YOUR CHAMPION?
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>>104540410
>current girls
they never said that. That's your interpretation as a fan
>current talents
>existing performers
Cover always meant holopro
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>>104541118
fanart does not equal irl
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>>104540773
My cherry...
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>>104541179
They don't care that much anon
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>>104541134
>Already beating shitrys' latest song
Ohnonono holofags
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>>104541145
the entire fucking point of a tariff is that corpos would build more US presences so they don't have to pay the tariff
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>>104540911
Tbf, Holo, or rather the whole vtubing boom can be attributed solely to COVID. Now that people are going out again, gathering new fans is harder. New gens isn't the answer. In fact, it would be stupid to release new gens right now just cause there are very few new newcomers to the hobby. It'll just divide existing fans among the existing talents and you'll end up with a situation like Niji where only 3-4 of their people can break 1k ccv while the rest are stuck in 3view hell
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speaking of EN5, has anything come out about the 5 or 6 frontrunner bets since their graduations?
I haven't been following if any of them has already reincarnated elsewhere
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>>104541018
>>104541085
>>104541175
This is a pathetic attempt at shilling Niji, do better
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>>104541173
Suisei is ungrateful and only cares about herself. She'd sink the entire comp-any if it would help her career even an iota.
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Why is IRyS' bitrate so bad
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>>104541217
Lmao
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>>104541060
>offcollab
Nigga stop moving the goalpost
You posted a video Fubuki describing hanging out with some JPs off-stream, not an off collab
I'm telling you the japan-located ENs crashed Bae's place, had dinner and marathon the Pirates of the Caribbean a few days before they left for AFO
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>>104541187
Most of Western streaming scene doesn't know much about Hololive or Vtubing ether
No, Asmongold's audience or /lsf/ aren't "Western streaming scene"
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>>104541228
I have seen multiple anons say the coyote started working for cover doing choreo for the girls
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>>104541217
And it actually does the opposite, now you know why tariffs are retarded
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>>104541241
Slop asset flip game with an equally shitty pc she refuses to upgrade
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Suischizo is back with his samefaging I see
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>>104541231
Not the schizo but I want what is best for Suisei and being in a company for otaku and pagpags does not help her.
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>>104541107
should I quote myself or something?
What the point if you lack reading comprehension in the first place?
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>>104541047
Mori and Biboo are Botted to hell. If they really had that draw, they would get nearly the same high ccv regardless of what they play and they'd get it near the start of the stream not 2 hours later. They would also bring a good deal of extra viewers to a smaller Holomem, but they don't.
Fuwamoco isn't botted and can crack 6-10K without raids as well. Their recent JP horror stream a few days ago got like 12k people in there, no raids, no bots.
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>>104541188
Yaaaawn
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>>104541262
Amateur
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>>104541217
What trump wishes would happen and what actually happens are two completely different things
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>>104541280
Sure thing Bibooschizo
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>>104538747
Oy vey
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>>104541241
thought this said "birthrate" desu
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>>104541274
was for >>104541230
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>>104541179
they are not on your ass i promise, i just want to see what "i didn't like a stream" actually means
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>>104541255
>doesn't know much about Hololive
NO SHIT
that's why they think it's weird japanese exploitive black company
now shut the fuck up sit down and listen
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>>104541275
>should I quote myself or something?
no point because you've never actually said what idol means even after asked 10 times
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>>104541134
>first cover in months
>covering a popular anisong
>it's never going to break 1mil just like the last two years of her uploads
nijiEN is so fucking GRIIIIIIIMMMMMM
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>>104541118
Well let's take a look
>Kson
Got absolutely shanked by V-Shojo after three years of shilling them
>Mikeneko
Jesus Christ
>Delutaya
She exists, I guess
>Rica
She isn't happier than when she was in Holo
>Dooby
Completely burnt out
>Nimi
She is getting married so technically she is happier
>Saba
Already in her second hiatus in one month

You leave Hololive because you want to retire and do nothing else in life, not because you want to be happier.
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>>104541313
TLDR we need to spread more knowledge of hololive until it's being sold with every happy meal
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Rrats about the fifth member of justice?
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>>104541280
t.botter
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>>104541274
>She called herself an idol
>Being in a company for otaku does not help her
? ?
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>>104541313
>now shut the fuck up sit down and listen
what are you a sassy black woman lmao
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>>104541271
Would I get banned again if I call him out?
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>>104541274
suisei can pretend to be a good person by using good girls with depression like nene as her stepping stone
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>Nijisister raid
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Rate my EN5
>Tanya
>Coyote
>Dooby3D
>Stefanie Joosten
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>>104541287
One is getting viewbotted though
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>>104541339
grimmi
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>>104541313
Listen to what? You ain't said shit.
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>>104541280
PotentialFWMC if they hard committed to JP instead of going between EN and JP could be close to Koyori tier. But they don't. Numbers are numbers, unless you think 2/3 of EN is botted 2x their real CCV
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>>104541313
No, they don't think anything about Cover or Hololive.
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>>104538958
lol
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>>104541367
Jannies are pretty sensitive with the word "brown" idk why
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>>104541335
What about Namie and shachi
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>>104541374
>tanya
no thanks
>Coyote
fine
>Dooby
retarded to not return as Ame
>Stefanie Joosten
who???????
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>>104541287
>sponsor slop original vs mega popular song cover
ENNA IS A FUCKING JOKE HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>104541411
>idk why
i've been banned for racism a lot but NEVER been banned for saying nigger. go figure
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>>104541357
She's an egomaniac and wants MORE than that. Being part of that otaku company is hurting her and she knows it. She needs to leave.
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>>104541339
ERB wanted for Justice to be a mixed gen and the King piece has going to be a male but the rest were against it so he got terminated pre-debut
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IRyS accidentally exposed Roboco x Polka Discord sex
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>>104541280
>>104541396
samefag, lol
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>>104541418
Shachi is gone, she is not a V-Tuber anymore.

Namie uploads once a month but I guess she is happier as an artist...?
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>>104541422
>the crat cries as he hits you with his dinosaur hands
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>>104541411
my post has no "brown" word in it and i got banned for off topic instead of racism >>104386538
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>>104541398
And what do they think about other vtuber corpos?
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>ennacuck using enna to shit on others
Haven't seen that in a while, back to his roots huh
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>>104539127
Go fuck yourself mythfaggot
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>>104541274
>>104541447
>Not the schizo but (random insults at Suisei)
Stupid retard
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>>104541374
hag & dooby good
other 2 into the trash
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>>104541114
If Miko left, there would be nobody in Holo JP to organize events, at least not the way Miko makes them.
And if Miko started organizing events as an indie for other indies, then rest assure people will show up for them. Including current holfans.
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>>104541464
Deserved for posting reddit
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>>104540911
>Fauna, Mooms
Idk why you keep gassing those two when they had very middling metrics that have absolutely been beating
Fauna averaged like 9-12k~ and there's several ENs who do that, she was the runt of her gen in terms of subs and both Nerissa and Biboo will likely reach 1 million faster than she did (while also doing it organically, instead having a bunch of pity subs push her over 1 mill before she left)
Moom averaged like 10-14k but abused the ever loving hell out the rarity and karaoke buffs, and her average in reality was probably like 5-8k
Really the only unreachable level you named is Gura, she's such a massive product of "right time, right place" that reproducing that level of popular is near impossible, to the degree where she can't even do it herself as Saba
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>>104541518
>they had very middling metrics
they were two of the most popular EN members retard
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>>104541509
what about an anon posting numbers on the numbers thread?
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>>104541217
...how are you people so stupid? You don't tariff shit you don't fucking have... You tariff shit so people buy shit you produce... If you are not producing shit what is the point? You are just taxing your population for no reason...
To build industries you should use other instruments not tariffs...
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>>104541118
Ruka got a decent outcome, kept her Oshi, and can now stream with her sister as well.
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>>104541382
>>104541422
Crat cope
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>>104541518
>rarity of karaoke
i think she's only behind ame in terms of karaoke hours or stream count?
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So are these homoshitters, nijisisters, or phasefaggots?
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>>104541464
sorry bro you implied being brown while posting an image about vtubers but the schizo spamming unrelated shit all day is on topic
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so kronii is hetero right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i7W6tLZY2k&t=3665s
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>>104541546
>he thinks the numbers thread is about numbers
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>>104541543
in the numbers thread.
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>>104541454
they are having a collab in like 5 minutes
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>>104541487
That isn't an insult, it's just a description imho
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>>104541564
IRyS had her beat in both number and hours of karaoke
But that puts her second behind the literal #1 singer, so that's respectable nonetheless
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>>104541581
Yes
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>>104541548
the US is very capable of producing chinese plushies and acrylic
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>>104541548
His tarrifs were ruled illegal but supreme court is taking their sweet time to make the final decision
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>>104539268
If EN5 will have a charismatic gamer loli then Koseki is so screwed..
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>>104541482
I'm just stating facts
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>>104541602
Not without thirdie immigrants willing to work for dirt poor wages you arnrt
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>>104541602
>the US is very capable of producing chinese plushies and acrylic
and where are you getting materials for all that? (also no it is not capable but let's pretend)
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>>104541543
fwmc, ina and mori cleared them
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>>104539315
lmao
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>>104541573
thats not fair
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>>104541576
how is this even a question after she told us her favorite webtoons
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>>104541639
not by most metrics
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>>104538324
But enough about Kronii
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>>104539415
This.
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>>104541638
nigga your plushies are made out of polyester. go back to school.
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>>104541650
Is that a yes or no
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>>104541621
We have plenty of those though
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>>104540773
Good attention to detail making the pov guy black
Wawa is known to be black only
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>>104541686
She obviously self inserts as the husband fucking Sally.
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>>104541698
Kek
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>>104541418
Actual fully retired
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>>104541580
but that's literally our thread name.... /#/ Gossips and Agendas thread?
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>>104541664
name 5
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>>104541543
>they were two of the most popular EN members
Only if you're willing to ignore context on how their popularity actually worked
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings, but I've never been impressed by Fauna having a good CCV cuz she owned a dead timeslot and spammed MC, or Mumei disappearing for 2-3 weeks and then suddenly doing a couple of unarchive karaokes
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>>104541518
Nobody in current EN is getting 9-12k reliably without bots or Raids 9(or both). Fuwamoco can do it during JP hours and if playing certain games. But that's it.
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>>104541698
>>104541731
that's bae actually
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>>104541762
Bae only likes steve irwin cock
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>>104541688
Had
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>>104541757
>EVERYTHING I DONT LIKE IS BOTTED
ya let's just ignore the stats before your nijiengine went worldwide how convenient
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>>104541771
why is nimi being like botted?
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>>104541771
One day you shit on Nimi, and the next day you shit on Holo. It's because you're weak men that your girls prefer the passports bro dick
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>>104541757
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>>104541771
Sunday numbers? Let's see the rest of the week.
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>>104541757
Kys biboo schizo
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>>104541802
Anon... Irwin... He...
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>>104541744
According to our overlords, yes, as long as said gossips and agendas aren't about certain people.
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>>104541817
No we still have millions and millions of illegal immigrants and us cities are filled with legal non-white immigrants from all over. We didn't suddenly go back to 1965 demographics when trump came in
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>>104541762
Nice try
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>>104541831
show graph
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>>104541859
no...
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>>104541771
>overlap vs no overlap
Most fair napcuck
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>>104541873
Not for long if ICE has anything to say about it
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>>104538668
Autofister sisters edited it so it looks like they're holding hands.

Shipfaggotry is back
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>>104541912
And then they'll pretend it's cheating if some of them go above with raids
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>Prison escape simulator
>TCG shop simulator
>Yakuza simulator
HoloEN simulator soon
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>>104541829
All the threads on this board are shit
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which timezone takes the tally as reference?
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>>104541912
Baelz had an empty slot for 90 minutes
Cecilia had an empty slot period
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>>104541836
Women are for men to use
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>>104541883
don't have to try anything she's dating an abbo kek
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>>104541937
you mean like replace them all with AI bots? didn't kiara try that as an experiment and we couldn't even tell
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>>104541937
There's a Holo indie game like that got released recently >>104541939
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>>104541755
>owned a dead timeslot
She had heavy overlap from other Western streamers.
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>>104541918
It is physically impossible to deport that many people given the current circumstances, what ICE has to say is irrelevant.
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>>104541613
Goth Loli would instantly kill Biboo's career as they would all migrate over to the Goth Loli. And Goth loli who also speaks Japanese? Man even Fuwamoco would have to worry about that.
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>>104541602
Having the theoretical capability vs having the material/the machinery/human capital/corporate desire are two vastly different thing
It reminds of those few months in like 2023, when the US government was really gung-ho about the idea producing microchips stateside instead of relaying on TSMC. And then they realized we don't have the materials, we'd have to hire and train a bunch of employees and none of the tech companies around who could assign the job to wanted to pay American wages, so they nixed the idea entirety
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>>104541947
And with that logic, only strong men (which you aren't) deserve said women.
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>>104541968
LOL
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>Baelz
>Cecilia
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I'm throwing it right now

NijiEN's Green Homo is starting to bleed his engine, which means that one (or more HoloEN) talents will start to get engined.

Just so you niggas don't chimp out. Okbye
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>>104541973
anon, they are building a half trillion dollar data center in texas
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>>104541992
Their names, retard
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>>104541771
so nimi is worth 1.5 holos?
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>>104541992
>phasefaggots
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>Week 112! I have much recordings still and am honestly feeling really exhausted... Please stream my music in the meantime!!!
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>104541952
>didn't kiara try that as an experiment and we couldn't even tell
She's HoloEN simulator 0.9? (early access)
>>104541954
Really?
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>>104541997
Well I hope it latches onto Bae's channel so more people can discover her greatness.
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>>104541973
I dunno about the execution, but the idea of effectively subsidizing critical industries isn't a bad idea in the era of globalization and competing against nation states that already do that
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>>104542030
Yeah I forgot the name
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>>104541771
>IRyS is only an hour in
I'm sure you are going to make a shitpost the other way around after another 3-4 hours if IRyS breaks 10K from funnels or raids
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>>104542053
3/10 joke I almost grinned
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>>104541771
Competing with runts on an empty slot, hubby better be making some money.
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>>104541997
>Just so you niggas don't chimp out
nice try but the niji botnig always chimps out no matter what
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>>104537898
HoloEN has won 13 out of 15 Golds this month including some hilarious beatdowns like on the 13th and I'm supposed to have a two hour "discussion" on how to change HoloEN?

How about the others aren't such fucking losers, how does that sound?
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>>104541992
those are literally their names
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TSKR Moco-chan
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>>104541968
They're irrelevant as far as HoloEN's box is concerned
Nobody on Earth thinks Kai Cenat or whoever the fuck, overlapping Fauna has/had any real bearing on Fauna's CCV lol
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>>104542028
Is any Advent alive this week I thought chess was the busy September surprise
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>>104542065
>raids
that's all your hope nowadays
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>>104542105
you could do the bare minimum and open youtube to see
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>>104542109
konata for devis3
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>>104542090
SHARE THE MOUNTAIN HOLOKEK
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>>104542028
>shiori and nerissa guerilla week
https://x.com/kosekibijou/status/19674253330131
>biboo also busy
wtf is going on?
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>>104542111
Nimi already lost three hours ago, we're just waiting to see if Nimi chokes Silver and/or Bronze too
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>>104542140
Kick that bitch out of the podium
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>>104542090
They should try to grow in the western streaming scene instead of just being satisfied with being the biggest in a niche market
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>>104542133
advent sex vacation with me
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>>104541374
Dooby3D joining would be like Foobs being in both JP1 and Gamers except this time as Kurokami
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>>104542127
Konata X Fuwawa double paizuri
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>>104542090
>including some hilarious beatdowns like on the 13th
qrd on that?
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>>104539461
Introducing new gens is also about capturing people who might be interested in hololive, but haven't committed and new fans, in general. Because of the way hololive is, there is kind of a "learning curve", especially for those who really want to get into the media.
On-boarding with a new gen is kind of like starting with Season 1 of a show. The new audience gets to "learn" hololive with the new members. The audience gets to be "introduced" to each existing member and learn about those members alongside the new holomems.
In addition, the existing members and their audience will also recognize that these are newbies and have to be introduced to the relationships, memes, inside jokes, and "culture".
However, there are at least two factors for Cover Corp to consider other than what's been quoted.
Forcing a new gen is bad. The members need to both have potential and be able to work with each other. The former is for the "idol journey", the latter is because that's vital to the "hololive experience". If members can't work together, the audience will notice and that will ruin the "vibe". The second is whether there's enough of an audience to capture or on-board. Cannibalization will always happen, but it should be mitigated by the new audience being brought in (old members do see some audience increase when new gens debut). If this isn't happening and all that's happening is the existing audience is being recycled, that's no good.
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>>104542111
It's called power of friendship and a box, duh
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>>104542150
*SEPTEMBER 13TH FINAL EN TALLY*
>28,748: Calliope (Hololive English)
>20,670: Ina'nis (Hololive English)
>13,274: Kiara (Hololive English)
>11,284: Kiara (Hololive English)
>10,154: Kaelix (Nijisanji English)
>9,929: FUWAMOCO (<3) (Hololive English)
>8,835: IRyS (Hololive English)
>6,014: Cecilia (Hololive English)
>5,907: Gigi (Hololive English)
>5,368: Nerissa (Hololive English)

The only non-Holo entry is a heavily botted Niji homo and even then he is just fifth
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>>104542145
Western streaming scene is shit and doesn't deserve any helping but a swift but painful bullet to its metaphorical head
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>>104542105
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>game gives you 30 seconds to buy some items
>IRyS asks for backseating with 10 seconds to spare
>chat answers too late and she panic buys something she didn't need
This woman would be useless without us
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>>104542149
yeah, on my cock
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>started streaming in January 2023 with 10 ccvs
>now has like 3000 ccvs
wow, so you just need to git gud?
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>>104542149
good post
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Fauna was so unpopular that even after she left, and announced her marriage, she can still occasionally pull over 9k people.
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>>104542149
the ai sloppy light reflecting on their tits ruin it for me
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cecilia
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>>104542148
didn't niji have have the same VA piloting multiple chuubas
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>>104542191
Who
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>>104542191
You just need to develop cancer and take a multi long hiatus, apparently
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>>104542206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6N7IZx_yY
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>>104542195
Nimi just came out of a hiatus that she took because her last stream did poorly.
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>>104542111
>that's all your hope for
Thats Saba and Dooby, being creepy and unpersoning Nimi, no?
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I thought the concert was over, why are Advent, Promise and Myth busy?
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>>104542245
Whats after the concert?
That's right, more concerts
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>>104542196
doesn't look like AI, just a noob artist really who wanted to imply this is a porn shoot with the light rings and stuff
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>>104537900
Anon, the voice acting sucked because It was a last minute project too.
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Fuwawa is sniffing me
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>>104542245
wtf are you talking about advent and promise are streaming right now
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>>104542224
imagine saba ever explaining what her "health issues" are
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>>104541912
>excuses
you lost
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Today, I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADV13LRdes
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>>104542267
>people can't tell this level of obvious ai
in 10 years humanity is cooked
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>>104542267
post arm because you're definitely wrong
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>>104542245
Nerissa might be recording her next album
Biboo is still working on her 3D live
Myth Anniversary
Promise Anniversary
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>>104537900
Didn't Gura once say that before holo she was gonna be a VA for some kid's show before the coof wrecked everything?
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>>104542346
and shiori? >>104542133
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>>104542346
It's time for Fuwamoco to save the day
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>>104539225
3 hour update. Her VOD growth has slowed down to a crawl. Will likely end up around 60k. 100% botted.
This would have been an easy 100k VOD for pre-LLD Nimi
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>>104541971
>Goth loli who also speaks Japanese
YAGOO MAKE IT HAPPEN GIVE THIS ONE TO EN5
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>>104542149
who's Konata?
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>>104541755
>t I've never been impressed by Fauna having a good CCV
who cares what you were impressed by
they were top of the merch sales too
you can cope and seethe all you want, fauna and mumei were both popular
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>>104542384
Kanatas sexy little sister (actually just kanata schizoing out on april 1st)
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>>104542359
Advent Group Concert at LV Sphere in NY 2026
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>>104542394
kys brazilian schizo
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>>104541639
In 2024, Fauna and Mumei had their overall ccv average at 10K above everyone except Gura and Ame (with the Grad buff)
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>>104542384
Kanata little sister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i58DN0F225U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i58DN0F225U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i58DN0F225U
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>>104542383
Shit's hard, yo. Biboo was a miracle and Gigi is more of a brat than a loli.
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>>104542346
>Nerissa might be recording her next album
Retard, she recently said that she hasn't even started working on her original songs.
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>>104542359
She could be a guest in others' 3D stuff.
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>doesn't know who is Konata
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>>104542383
Facts, I want Raden to have a little goth doll sister!
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how does this rank compared to previous regloss songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO4W5iUe4Jw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO4W5iUe4Jw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO4W5iUe4Jw
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>>104542376
she had a 1.5k waiting room and we called out the abnormal incline immediately
you don't have to do all this nobody's arguing with you
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>>104542431
in that case 3D things then
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>>104542419
that's not even close to my physical location
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>>104542433
she's not in japan and has not mentioned going anytime soon so it wouldn't be that
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Advent are recording for Fuwawa's sololive
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>>104542441
so is ao just dead ?
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>ID playing SEA of thieves
kek
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>>104542443
How are you going to fucking explain the 7k likes after one hour
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It's cute how good people have gotten at running damage control for Hololive members not streaming
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>>104542466
WHAT ABOUT MOCOCO
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>>104542441
regloss sucks
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>>104542394
they were barely top 5 in merch and the people above them were in another league
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I read back in this thread and some of you have a serious case of historical revisionism with denying that people who had good numbers actually had good numbers
There's no need to try and argue that and make up reasons to cope why those numbers weren't real numbers.
The truth is that a difference of a few thousand CCV doesn't matter and almost all of EN was in the same range give or take a few thousand CCV. The only exception was Gura and there's nothing you could do to stop Gura from flaming out anyway so the entire argument is stupid.
The actual important metric is mindshare which is unmeasureable so lol.
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>>104542421
>Fauna 10k
This is dishonest because she had her graduation tour during December. Her January through November average was 9.5k, which was Mori tier before the cull started
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>>104542441
Ao's voice not being there makes their unified voices a little less punchy. They need that lower voice register.
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>>104542441
where the hell is ao? also how does devis keep on pumping out these high quality fully animated mvs when they're all shitters, where does the budget come from?
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>>104542334
Boobs too big
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>>104542436
English board deal with it jpiggy
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>>104542488
They learned from the best
>chumbuds
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>>104542508
>barely top 5
now we're coping
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>>104542441
so have people just stopped wondering where Ao is on the jp side?
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>>104542436
I only know kanata
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>>104542534
>FWMC
>Gura
>Ina
>Whoever had a birthday or anniversary that month

There.
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>>104542485
Like bots
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>>104542534
NTA but you are sort of both right
>FWMC
>Gura
>Ina
>Fauna
>Mumei
They were top 5 but they were not competitive with the top 3 in any regard
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>>104542509
>The actual important metric is mindshare which is unmeasureable so lol.
t.someone who never worked any white collar job where you had to conduct user studies and surveys.
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>>104542481
Ao is taking his route.
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>>104542498
she's the guest
then Mococo will have her sololive and Fuwawa will be a guest
and then it will be a FUWAMOCO duolive with twice as many guests as typical sololives
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>>104542523
same reason why shitters like kizuna ai or old azki could pump MVs after MVs out. they have a music contract
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>>104542555
If he was allowed to fuck Marine while being in Hololive, he'd have stayed
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>>104542523
>where does the budget come from?
Cover
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>>104542544
She updated her waiting room recently so it's only a matter of time. It's kind of hard timing wise since all of this was recorded and done while she had menhera breakdown including the upcoming Regloss live
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>>104542485
holo and every other vtuber on youtube is back to their usual likes to ccv ratio except nimi so unless you wanna say that only nimi is stilled culled then something sketchy is going on there
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>>104542607
nimi is still culled because she didn't have cover vouching for her to youtube
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>>104542485
>4k likes for an entire week
>suddenly double the amount
It's very very obvious anon
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>>104542580
so Marine is the common factor
>Shion
>Aqua
>r*shia
>Ao
>Vesper
she needs to be stopped
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>>104542443
nta the vods looks suspicious but the graph itself looks normal
Every EN stream today (CC, Bae, IRyS, FWMC) so far has also had an initially logarithmic incline gradually becoming linear until overlap/end
The advent vs justice stream had a long linear stretch but that's normal for a tourney
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>>104542567
>A good like-to-view ratio is 5% or higher, most videos stick around 3.75...
>Nimi is at 9.3K likes, 50K views right now - almost 20% ratio
Uh oh... she better grows to 150K+ by the end of the day or I'm noticing
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>>104542606
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>>104542594
what was this breakdown about and when?
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>>104542626
No, Cover should whore her out to any member who might leave to keep them around
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>>104542629
how does the graph look normal when a 1.5k waiting room explodes to 9k? FWMC have same waiting room plateauing at 7k
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>>104542641
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>>104542410
>>104542425
Konata is hotter
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Konata isn't streaming because she's with me btw
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>>104542523
DEV_IS is basically a group version of Project Hope. Their songs and MVs are likely funded and controlled by Cover
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Maybe going full /pol/ in this day and age wasn't a good idea for a agency.
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>>104542681
i agree but both of them together is the best
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>>104542673
IRyS had about the same waiting room and she's nearing 8k under overlap right now
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>>104542646
Some mental disorder she suffered about five-six months ago.

Ever since some one or two years ago, you need explicit medical approval to return to work, which usually is given after six months of recovery. Considering she updated her free chat and uploaded a clip recently, she's probably on her last checkups before clearance, but obviously she missed all the idol reps of the past half year.
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>>104542695
In that case I certainly hope they aren't being pushed to permanent throat damage and being completely neglected by their managers and all of Cover management
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>>104542686
i typed this
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>>104542673
>ow does the graph look normal when a 1.5k waiting room
Why the fuck do people keep saying this when it was 2.5k
Are you faggots retarded? Vstats doesn't catch the initial number like Vrabi does and Vrabi doesn't catch indies like they do for corpos
For fucks' sake you people are stupid
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>>104542731
no you didn't I typed it stop pretending to be me
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>>104542673
Because waiting room is only a factor (especially given that waiting rooms aren't affected by YT filters so a viewer can be in multiple waiting rooms at once) and doesn't always reflect the peak. FWMC is being overlapped by IRyS (7K) and Bae (5K) now. There is a good chance they'd have reached 9K-10K too if this was an empty timeslot
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jwu
qrd?
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>>104542668
including holostars
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>>104542724
it's the same mental disorder that caused her to quit every single job she's ever had pre-holo within a year, really don't know how she passed the auditions with her resume
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>>104542744
>2.5k
No it was 5k, but I don't have proof
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>>104542757
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>>104542762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWVt0YnSYEY
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>>104542769
I mean, shit, like half of her past jobs simply collapsed, what could she do there?
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>>104542441
Unironically would be better with Ao. Can't they just get her vocals while she is away
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>>104542769
marine nepo hire?
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And there goes my cherry
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>>104542769
i quit every shit job i had asap too. holo is the first one paying her well
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>>104542552
Unmeasurable to us. I'm sure they have internal metrics for this which we don't have access to
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A time for sleep.
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>>104542762
Konata owes me paizuru
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>>104542798
cover got shat on by the jp fans after it came out that they forced chloe to record while she had covid
so nope, pretty strict about health issues now
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>>104542804
why am I a nigga?
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>>104542819
Source for the art?
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>>104542825
forced to record at gunpoint what a black company
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>>104542804
>Kiara flirting with a black dude on the main channel
Reparations have arrived
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>>104542825
I don't remember the details but wasn't that because they had external obligations
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>>104542769
Sounds like a similar disease to the one Gura has
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>>104542441
it's decent but it's no feeeEEEEeeeling gradation
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>>104542769
Same way most people pass the resume to interview stage. Leave out anything bad and jobs that you randomly quit really fast.
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>>104542510
>9.5k, which was Mori tier before the cull started
Say what?
Mori's CCV has been in the lower half of EN after 2022 or so
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>>104542864
The Promise performance is the definitive version of that song now
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>>104542833
You can't just ask that
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>>104542885
Mori's CCV is actually pretty high after the enshittification of EN
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>>104542885
>Before the cull started
Disgusting Holofags counted botted Mori's number
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>>104542833
Her type
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IRyS jacking me off
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>>104542871
>Say anon, what were you doing between August 2023 and February 2025? There's a gap there.
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>>104542849
Yeah and it was stuff she agreed to because she was too timid to just tell them no.
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>>104542786
who in EN can do the equivalent of this in english?
no one has the improv wits nor the VA ability to speak that fast. no mori, can't do it. i've seen her "free style"
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>>104542769
quitting jobs and getting a better one is a normal thing to do if you're overqualified
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why is konata so sex
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EN5 status?
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>>104542910
hi kronii
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>>104542896
(me) and by enshittification of EN I mean niji and indie whores
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Spending all of those resources to hire coaches, editors, artists and organize a chess tourney just to promote a motion comic is too funny
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>>104542896
or feminization arc worked and her fans are unironically back?
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>>104542885
2025 Mori is mid 9ks
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>>104542913
Mococoeh
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>>104542932
>feminization arc
what the fuck does that even mean
her fans never left, people who watch EN just have no standards anymore so they watch whoever's on
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>>104542944
i said EN
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Well anons?
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>>104542931
cover wastes way more money on holoearth and the homos this is nothing
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>>104542952
People watched Fauna they never had standards
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>>104542804
Are we going to get sexy shorts from Ina and Mori too? If Ina does something like this I'm going to burst. Ina please...
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>>104542913
you don't need improv wits to rant about something and a lot of EN can speak fast
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>>104542804
Who tf dyed their ice red
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>>104542997
proof?
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>>104542991
Fauna's a good streamer, that's why people watch her
There used to be a hierarachy of popularity based on how good the talent actually was
Now people will literally just watch a Hololive stream because it's Hololive
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>>104542421
Here's the 2023 stats. Yeah nobody except Gura got 10K+ average ccv that year. However Fauna and Mumei were still top 3 overall.
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>>104542965
They are absolutely right not to listen to the /pol/tards, especially since the boar (Kirsche) and her mobs tried to cancel OffKai last year
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>>104543014
SHARE THE MOUNTAIN HOLOKEKS
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>>104543014
So good she now needs to be botted into relevancy lmfao
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>>104542804
>losing gurame, the remaining myth members have to prostitute themselves to stay afloat
AND THEY SAY THE KINO ARCS ARE OVER
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>>104542965
Post it on their thread
>Its their problem
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>>104543026(me)
Fauna and Mumei were top 3 if we don't count the Fuwamoco Debut Buff.
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>>104543034
All of that money wasted on that chess event could be used to further the EN vtuber industry ngl
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>>104543014
If their stream quality was actually good then they'd be inclining after leaving Holo instead of reclining.
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>>104542394
lmao
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>>104542910
Traveling or taking care of a sick family member is enough for short gaps if you need to bullshit on a resume.
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>>104543034
Is this some translated SEA idiom? Because it's not an English one
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>>104543073
what money? they spent at most a few hundred on assets and the chess casters did it for exposure and were unpaid
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>>104543073
You are being too obvious. Please learn how to falseflag before coming here.
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>>104543080
why would they incline after leaving Holo? That makes no sense, Hololive is a viewership buff not a debuff
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>>104543070
>debut buff doesn't count
yes it does if they streamed almost the same amount of hours despite only being around for half the year
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>>104543087
as someone who's been on hundreds of interview debrief, i have not once seen gap in resume be brought up as a concern.
99% of the time the first time i looked at your resume is when i picked up the phone to call you and i'm not really reading shit.
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>>104543014
>It's not that my oshi sucks, it's that you people have no standards!
Fucking pathetic
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>>104543094
its a reference to a twitter shitter melty screenshot (I think he was a vshojo fan) posted on previous threads. I don't know if the dude was from SEA tho
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>>104543094
It's the ligger refrain
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>>104543026 (me)
Fauna had a huge jump from 23-24, from 7.5k to 10k average ccv.
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>>104543014
fucking retard theres a mile difference in viewers between miko and ollie
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>>104543174
I'm just talking about EN
JP is still a meritocracy
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>>104542942
Yeah I'd take that with a large grain of salt
Mori has long streams during NA hours that are often hit by the engine since early this year
Hell she had a entire playthrough that was significantly engined
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>>104542965
It actually took too long for something like that happen. Sad for the girl, but Phase had it coming for creating a fanbase full of /pol/tards.
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>>104543115
If the argument is that the ones who left were top tier entertainers then they shouldn't be losing viewership, what is this cope?
At least Sakuna has an excuse in recent months.
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>>104543026(me)
Also if you look at Max ccv, Mumei had the highest in 2023 of any non-debuting member. I guess her 3D show was Hype that year.
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>>104543189
>JP is still a meritocracy
lmao
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>>104543070
No, nigga. Prime FWMC (July 2023 to April 2024) were the most dominant streamers on the EN scene and some of the best in EN history. They deserve to be counted because they fucking killed it.
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Post deep cuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTSE4h4SSs
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>>104543209
>creating zero lasting value and culture for EN
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>>104543205
JP has popular and unpopular members, with the popular members generally being the better entertainers
meanwhile EN is "I LOVE MY HOLOLIVE FAMILY" while people flood into Mori and Kiara and Advent and Justice streams and pretend they enjoy it
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>>104541771
It has been 2 hours
>Irys is stagnating between 7.9K - 8K
>FWMC is stagnating between 7.1K - 7.2K (just jumped up slightly so might be engined)
>Bae is dropping gradually
Another day, another Nimi win
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>>104543189
still wrong they don't all get the exact same amount of viewers when multi-poving the same game
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>>104543209
The point is Fauna >>>> Mori 2 years in a row, you deluded DeadNegro.
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>>104543190
Mori started getting botted the day after her birthday (so April) and the engine was massive on her until the Animal Charity stream

Nowadays she still gets engined if she streams at prime time (Niji leak theory) but even then it's a crapshoot compared to what she got with Darkest Dungeon and Expedition 33.
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>>104543070
FWMC were top 2 post-debut buff. They reclined because they moved to Japan and stopped caring about NA viewers not because the debut buff wore off
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>>104542896
>>104543026
Not like this Anon!
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>>104543250
>Bae raided IRyS 2m after this post and pushed IRyS to 10K+
Welp
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>>104543139
LMAO this is so stupid. It's the reality for all streamers and not just indie chuubas. Plus, pretty much all the EN girls went through indie hell before joining the corpo.
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>>104543139
It's a Vshojofag too but Gunrun destroyed his "Freedom talent" dream kek
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>>104543228
What are you trying to deflect from?
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10K DORYAAAAAAAA
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>>104543254
proving that CCV and /#/ doesn't mean jack shit. mori is the single most successful EN using any other metric
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>>104543230
>big factor in carrying en relevancy and profits
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>>104543290
Bae is /here/
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Nimi is a botted whore I don't know why people are even bothering discussing her
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IRyS is panting and moaning right now
You're missing out
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>>104543250
>FWMC is stagnating between 7.1K - 7.2K (just jumped up slightly so might be engined)
It's a funnel from Bae, no?
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>>104543290
And IRyS will raid FWMC or they'll play garbage collector and pick up the remaining 2k they need.

You really should only talk after the day is over.
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>>104543027
>>104543066
>>104543191
Qrd?
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>>104543333
and you will keep seething, why even bother posting?
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>>104543314
She will do what Gura failed to do for whatever reason by connecting JP audience to EN.
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Promise won
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>>104543312
Nope, if Cover allowed the other more popular EN members to have a Solo, they'd fill it up more than Mori could ever hope to. Cover's retarded ass is just married to sub counts and nothing else.
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>>104543263
Mods really amped it up. You can't even talk about Phase Connect without getting banned.
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A win for IRyS is a win for Nimi.
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>>104543263
Damn, they are literally nijisister clones
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>>104543350
>>104543263
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>>104543263
>A used up whore
Work for every phasegirl
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>>104543342
don't bother with the engine brained retards, they probably have nightmares everyday of cars with huge v24 engines running them over
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>>104543372
this is a retarded cope. most of them don't even have enough originals to fill 2 hours
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I will never forgive Phase and Pippa for making /pol/ posting on-topic in this board.
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>>104543230
They appear on every fucking event, promo, show, expo and product known to man even to this day

Hell even winning that shitty little VTuber of the Year award is creating value and culture. I'm sorry they don't play Minecraft that much but that's not creating value and culture
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does bae only raid promise members? the past few streams she hasn't been raiding have been nights when none of her genmates streamed
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now we just need irys to raid fwmc
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>>104543418
Bae rarely raids in the first place
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>>104543290
>The entire branch unite only to beat one small tapir.
Grim
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>>104543417
they create value but they certainly don't create culture
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>>104543389
pretty funny after phasebrowns were gleefully spamming about "THE NIJIFICATION OF HOLO" for months
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>>104543442
Last I checked Bae and IRyS are just two girls
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>>104543406
Don't need originals to fill 2 hours. Just sing your most popular covers, the audience literally doesn't care.
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>>104543445
El silencio is a pretty good cultural impact, in my opinion
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>>104543263
the great sistering of phaseturds
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>>104542997
I bet Gigi could, but she usually rants emphatically instead of like otaku-Fubuki
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>>104543263
>>104543389
Horseshoe theory is real
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>>104543263
Clara is Phase's Zaion, and that's wonderful to see.
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>>104543398
Yeah, their graph was perfectly flat (ToT) before Bae raided IRyS
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>>104543418
She raids others like Mori, Biboo, etc if they have streams.
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>no kanuauru no numbers
>no raids no numbers
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>>104543356
NIMI MOGGED
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>>104543459
You have to pay to license those for a paid concert
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>>104543442
If only the indie avengers raided each other.
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>>104543263
it's like im reading shitposts from this thread
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why does irys like these asset flip slop games so much?
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>>104543508
If only the Indie Avengers talked to each other, hahahahahahahah
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>>104543508
Only one member of the indie avengers still streams
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>>104543516
Guess who also shits up the thread whenever they aren't busy going after Clara?
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qrd?
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>>104543418
Bae isn't streaming much recently and when she does stream she'll raid the only people on at this time of night who are usually Promise who all crowd the late PST slot. And Biboo or Mori.
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>>104543507
Then pay the fee, use the money those cover MVs made.
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>>104543524
she's the focus of the stream, not the game. Also they are usually pretty shallow so that leaves brain power to zatsu
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>>104543478
It's worse the Zaion. All the stuff Clara said was in her personal Instagram. Phasecucks are doxxing their own chuuba because she made fun of that podcast nigga.
Sad for the girl, but it's really funny to watch the phasefags self-imploding.
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>>104543529
Just like the real avengers. I don't think they liked each other that much
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And people are going to tell me that male VTubers aren't cancer
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Why are phasefags so right wing?
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>>104543564
Can't wait for the Civil War arc
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>>104543574
Pippa being the face of their company
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>>104537811
I was hopping for Chess theme EN5...
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>>104543554
>how to go bankrupt like vshojo
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>I'm not going to remember all this
>so chat remember for me okay?
I always appreciate how much IRyS understands the male need to be useful to women
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>>104543578
But Clio is their current superstar though
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>>104543442
Once Nimi starts having Mr. Nightmare on stream we will divide her numbers by 2, and once her child/children are on stream we will divide her numbers further accordingly.
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>>104543390
I don't get it
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>>104543574
Pippa used /pol/ to Kickstart her career and the reputation as being the based pol rabbit stuck with both her and phase as a whole.
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>>104543263
Weird, why isn't anyone making a thread discussing Clara?
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>>104543591
Fishman would like her to be their superstar yeah, which is why he's botting her so much
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>>104543568
wanting a phasewhore to graduate is based howthoughbeitevertheless
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>>104543591
They deceive themselves into believing that all the other girls are chuds like them
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>>104543550
after seeing all the indie avengers get rich while not streaming, she realized she fucked up by not redebuting and now has greed in her eyes
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>1224 posts
What happened?
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>>104542896
sure, lets ignore the rampant botting
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IRYS NUMBERS GO UP
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>>104543550
no idea what her new years resolution was
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>>104543656
Nijisis melty
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>>104543568
>If you believe people deserve to be shot for their opinions, don't cry when you are fired for yours
Ironic given that they were talking about that Kirk guy
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>>104543620
He will never be able to get rid of pippa in a manner that would not piss off phasefags
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>>104543656
holofags malding
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>>104543656
Advent had fun, thus we had hours of schizos samefagging
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>>104543656
>>104543263
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>>104543656
clara/phase drama threads get deleted
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>>104543550
who the fuck is this
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>>104543676
Now is his best chance though
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>>104543263
phasecucks are literally the most retarded bunch, imagine anti-ing a girl over stupid polshit
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>>104543656
When in doubt it's nijiniggers
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>draw futa porn of your oshi
>get hired by cover
https://x.com/kdwr43/status/1965065514855891455
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>>104543656
We were discussing who ruined the collab and decided that it was rigged from the start
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>>104542804
oh fuck my dick aaaaaaaaahhhh-
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>>104543676
At this point why don't just try it anyway, they're still small enough that the loss it might cause seems insignificant in the grand scheme of things. They want a fresh start don't they?
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>>104543303
Nigga doesnt want to admit that Hololive is the only true Vtuber in the world
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>>104543263
Imagine if the weakest Watamate was a phasefag, I think he would have died of exhaustion
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>>104543550
namie was forced to choose between nimi and dottovuu and she chose dottovuu.
then she realized what a fucking retarded decision that was given nimi is the one that's actually available for collab leeching.
so now she's gonna claim that dottovuu raped her and that she retroactively withdrew consent.
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>>104543564
>Senzawa is antisocial, she won't collab much if at all
>Shut up bootlicker they're gonna revive SNOT and Shachi will be there and they'll make a concert together and they'll be like SNOT and SNOT SNOT SNOT

Can't say we didn't warm them. I know Gura and Fauna were important to survive through the Grim Era but it almost felt like some people were stuck there, reliving 2022 over and over again.
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>>104542804
Nice weg
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Did some of you got your 3months ban revoked?
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>>104543732
SHARE
THE
MOUNTAIN
HOLOKEK
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>>104543656
i replied to every bait no matter how weak. no need to thank me.
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Kanata is currently talking about the possibility of going indie ala shion/aqua
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>>104543717
based honestly, and to think they said they weren't into futa for a while after they started drawing ShioRissa art
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>on the 27th at 7pm CST, I will be having my stream with my father!
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>>104543782
nice content lol
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>Fuwawa: Buy or good bye
Based
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>>104543734
Helmir is a really curious guy. After the events of July, he took a break from arguing and now only lives to post about Watame.

He shits on Phase here and there but it is like he retired to a life with his sheep.
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>>104543766
I suggest you pick kuzuha as a subject of big vtuber going indie, it'll garner more attention from this thread than using random holomems attached with some bullshit reasonings
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>>104543766
shion is struggling hard isn't she? and aqua got fucked by her artist being an actual pedo
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>>104541175
but enough about the blue leech pekoleech the rabbit whore literally can't stop leeching won't stop leeching she's even doing another leeching week starting today because she gets shit numbers without leeching anyone kek
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>>104543782
Nimi is so pathetic
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>>104543759
like wtf that nigga wants cover to do? give all their money to random 1viewrs?
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>>104543782
Neurizza?
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>>104543759
desu hololive mountain isn't even that big, twitch streamers are more popular and they also help smaller creators
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>>104543139
>>104543303
hahaha holy shit, what a tranny faggot meltbrown
>>104543819
that's how kiked freaks think, yes
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>>104541112
Miko never said anything about leaving after 10 years EOP retard, you're just parroting some schizo shit you found one sukikira lmao
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>>104543782
I hope he is as autistic as the brother, that was fun.
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>>104543810
what is she going to do btw, she cant get new outfits
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>>104543717
not the first time it happened
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>>104543807
He may have been noticed that the time spent shitting on anti was greater than the time he spent supporting Watame
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>>104543819
They say "share the mountain!" So you give em a jar of dirt, whatever that represents is for you to decide
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>>104543852
she's rich enough to recomission everything with a new artist but fucks her existing brand deals
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>>104543809
I would being it up if he ever talk about it.
Kanata also mocked holos who glazed cover too much a few minutes ago
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>>104543656
Pekora talked about how she wants to join Nijisanji because she thinks the grass is greener on the other side
https://www.youtube.com/live/neeUAsvC-RY?t=2847
>Q: What do you currently want to do?
>Peko: What I wanted to do?
>Peko: I've been thinking about this
>Peko: You know how they say the grass is greener in the other side
>Peko: I wonder if I can be contracted to the other box instead
>Peko: something like a transfer
>Peko: the process might be complicated
>Peko: but I'm curious how it is on the other side
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>>104543852
She'll be fine just hire a new artist and get it rigged. But also depends on how artists feel about wanting to associated with her given how the japanese are
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>>104543824
desu desu the only thing VTwitcher do is killing each other with google dockey
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>>104543861
Also doomposting and general shitposting took a nosedive after July.

The implosion of V-Shojo did wonders for Holo's PR and the LLD made all Indie Avengers crap go poof in one night.
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>>104543866
He did in recent stream, I won't tell you which
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>>104543867
You lost, anon. NijiEN is dead, and BlueHomo is graduating after the MMD concert
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>posted it again award
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>>104543885
the greatest anti central (aka this board) also got crippled by towa
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>>104543782
post the full thing
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>>104543867
>still spamming his intentional mistranslations after getting BTFO yesterday
kill yourself /jp/ag
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>>104543885
I still find it weird that both the LLD and VShojo's death all happened in the same day, that's one hell of a coincidence desu
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>>104543867
Your translation is so poisoned and disingenous it's absurd how you even came up with it in the first place. Do you think there is at least one nigga here who knows Japanese?
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>>104543885
Also, especially since Gunrun no longer pays shills to shit on Hololive /here/
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>>104543908
Future holostar?
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>>104543568
>do not make this worse for the rest of phase
Meaning "quit or we'll harass the other girls too for associating with you"
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>>104543867
are you going to samefag for the next 8 hours again?
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>>104543912
>that's one hell of a coincidence
not really
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>>104543867
>>104523476
>>104524034
>>104524286
wow you are really timelooping this same shit again people dont even need to refute it since you are such a retard and formated it in the same way as yesterday
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>>104543919
The shills still goes here anyway out of habit and pagpag driven hunger
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>>104543926
They act just like the leftists they hate so much
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>>104543922
Holo-Ojisans
>Wizard (singer and dancer)
>Paparissa
>Papa Puppy (gamer of the gen)
>Dadseki
>Papa Panthera (doesn't know English)
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>>104543943
These cuck do this for free kek
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>>104543912
It's also the day Saba lost Gold for the first time since debut.

She lost it to KRONII. Like, this shit was scripted or something
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>>104543963
What about pero?
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>*Kanata talking about needing to move frequently*
>K: Well if you're well known in the internet it becomes very unsafe in the real world
>K: You have to be very careful, at worst you may even lose your life if you meet the wrong people (referencing that streamer stabbing earlier this year)
>Chat: Yeah, I saw someone I knew from yt shorts got shot in america
>K: Well for that person's case that is definitely deserved
Thoughts? source is her mengen right now
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Kek
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>>104543963
>Papa Puppy never talks on stream
>only communicates via grunts and grumbles
>hates uggos and trannies in new games
>will only play games with huge titty oneesans with frequent pauses just staring at the all the girls' titties
the only male chuuba I'd watch
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holokeks why can't you understand that the grass is much greener on the nijiside, all the women only have to be slaves for 5 days a week to the kings
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>>104543990
OH NONONONO CHARLIEBROSSSSSSSS
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>>104543996
>GTO watchlong
Kino
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>>104543717
Based
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>>104544005
And being handed over to a sexual deviant music producer for the rest of the week
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>>104544005
dont forget if any woman is more successful than the nijikings the staff will sabotage their career until they get in line
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>104543990
>104544017
>1 min apart
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>>104543996
>He drops everything and ends collabs early just to play World of Warcraft
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>>104543856
THIS IS JUST LIKE MY JAPANESE DOUJINS
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>>104543908
The ravencroft channel
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IRyS is very interested in Biboo's fingers
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>>104543717
aomushi needs an official work from Cover as well
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>>104544038
Nigga that one was clearly a joke
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Kekaroo
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>>104543990
BASED BASED BASED
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>>104543990
>>104544023
she's talking about police body cam shorts of stabbers
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>>104543738
Dottovu is a better friend but useless for her.
From business perspective, Nimi is potentially becoming the future no.1 ENvtuber and Namie knows so she has to pick her instead.
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>>104544043
>only posts on xitter are of his loot drops every 2-12 weeks
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>>104540773
Queen of EN
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>>104544057
BASED BASED BASED
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>>104544052
she's literally me
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i imagine irys tapping my dick
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>>104544052
well as one anon calculated when biboo was doing one of her first handcam streams biboo has the hands of a 10-12 year old japanese girl so it makes sense irys would be into that
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>>104544057
absolutely everything he said was true thoughever
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>>104544062
Does youtube even allow body cam shorts of people getting stabbed/shot?
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>>104544034
sorry but anycolor has been graciously botting a few women above tinboy for months now so it really just seems like the ones that aren't part of their cliques get shunned
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>>104544052
>>104544077
>>
A green Holograduate return
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfMDkbgUITc
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>>104544062
Why my post?
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>>104544081
Sometimes one or two escaped from the moderation cycle, I've seen it once couple of years back while scrolling down
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>>104544057
notice he doesn't call out Cover when their talents are also doing the same thing as clara, that's a crypto cover shill account.
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>>104544091
Where did she go
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>>104543908
MALE ON STREAM AIIEE. Srsly tho. I thought she's gonna bring her dad at 1m?
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>>104544092
sorry yours was right below the other guy, meant for >>104544017
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>>104544057
poltards are so retarded
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>>104544088
>Biboo moved to Japan to give IRyS easy access
what a succubus!
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>>104544057
Amazing, simply amazing
I'll treat niji and phase sisters equally from now on
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>>104544102
Straight from the nijinigger playbook



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