Burning man Edition>What is /lig/?/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.>Why /lig/?Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.>Wait isn't that one a corpo?/lig/ is a thread for chuubas of a decent size who aren't defined by their corporate branding, either due to the small size of the corporation or the independence and lack of oversight granted to the talentsNumbers for 9/14:1: https://www.youtube.com/@TheBurntPeanut (11,508)2: https://www.youtube.com/@niminightmare (8,280)3: https://twitch.tv/Shylily (7,193)4: https://twitch.tv/ironmouse (6,990)5: https://twitch.tv/henyathegenius (5,447)6: https://www.youtube.com/@KirscheVerstahl (4,608) *Combined7: https://twitch.tv/MichiMochievee (4,105)8: https://twitch.tv/nihmune (3,710)9: https://twitch.tv/Kenji (3,485)10: https://twitch.tv/Sykkuno (3,066)Non-English:1: https://twitch.tv/Kamito_JP (4,378) *Japanese2: https://twitch.tv/KSPKSP (2,779) *Chinese3: https://twitch.tv/soraposhich (2,471) *Japanese>/lig/ Numbershttps://lignumbers.neocities.org/>Twitch Clips Guidehttps://pastelink.net/34vd5>VOD Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide>/lig/ VOD Archivehttps://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig>Koikatsu cardshttps://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA>/lig/ Wheel of Nameshttps://wheelofnames.com/49w-z2x>Tiermakerhttps://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg>Upcoming BirthdaysSeptember 17th - AlfhildeSeptember 22nd - Hannah Hyrule & MomoSeptember 25th - ShinectOctober 1st - Mint FantômeOctober 3rd - NyaruOctober 4th - Rainhoe & Nene AmanoOctober 10th - ChromuchromuOctober 18th - SquChanOctober 21st - GrapeOctober 22nd - FrootOctober 24th - Moriko Kyoho & Yuy IXOctober 28th - VividlyVivi>OC material for the OPhttps://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw>Ducks(embed) https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed)Other useful threads:>>>/vt//big/>>>/vt//corpo/>>>/vt//choc/>>>/vt//flip/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//indie/>>>/vt//mint/>>>/vt//swarm/>>>/vt//vrt/>>>/vt//xvsj+/Previous Thread: >>104541453
hello friends
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
>>104547209what up sister
>>104547209
I love Japanese flower fairies
>>104547209Is your homethread being shit again?
srinkie check
I had a dream a rat came out of my bath faucet and I drowned it. Then I tossed the rat outside for stray cats to eat and also tossed a tiny kitten towards the rat to eat it. It got pissed and attacked me alongside another, more aged cat that appeared and I ran inside my house. I closed the door and the older cat got its head caught in it and died instantly. Then I woke up. So, uh... Lucy schedule today? Haha...
batatvideogames loads up minecraft and the screen fades in with the grassy dirt block spinning and she clicks singleplayer and picks a random world and spawns in a plains biome with some flowers and grass and she stands there for a while just looking around then she slowly walks to the nearest tree and starts punching it until it breaks and then punches another tree and then another tree and collects some logs and opens her inventory to make planks and a crafting table and some sticks and then she places the crafting table and makes a wooden pickaxe and a wooden axe and she cuts down a few more trees because she wants more wood and then she walks around aimlessly for a bit collecting seeds by breaking grass and then she digs a small hole in the ground to get some cobblestone and then she makes a stone pickaxe and a stone axe and she picks up the crafting table and walks around a little more and she finds a small pond and decides to build a tiny dirt hut next to it and she spends a while carefully placing the dirt blocks to make sure the hut is symmetrical and then she puts the crafting table inside and digs a little bit of the floor to make it one block deeper and then she stands there for a while thinking about what to do next then she decides to start a small farm so she makes a wooden hoe and tills some dirt next to the pond and plants the seeds she collected and then she just stands there watching them not grow because it is still daytime and then she walks back inside the hut and waits a few seconds then walks back out and punches a pig for food then remembers she does not have a furnace so she cannot cook it yet so she just holds the raw porkchop in her inventory and walks around again she sees a chicken follows it for a while then ignores it and collects some flowers to decorate the outside of her hut she places the flowers in a straight line in front of the door then walks away again then circles back to admire her flower line then it starts getting dark and she panics slightly and goes inside her hut and blocks the door with dirt and then just stands there waiting for the night to pass but she gets bored so she digs a little staircase down and collects more cobblestone and then makes a furnace and puts the porkchop inside to cook but realizes she has no coal so she uses wood as fuel and then eats the cooked porkchop even though she is not that hungry and then she just keeps digging down until her pickaxe breaks and then she goes back up to craft another one and then she digs some more and finds more stone and then even more stone and then she turns around and goes back up to check on her farm and the wheat has barely grown so she just stands there waiting for it to grow for a while then she walks in a random direction to see if she can find a sheep but she does not find one so she just picks some more flowers and then goes back to her hut and places them on the other side so the flowers are symmetrical and then she goes inside again and looks through her inventory even though there is nothing new then she decides to expand her hut by one block on each side and then she steps back to look at it and nods to herself and then she goes back inside and waits for morning again then when it is morning she goes outside and walks in the opposite direction this time and finds a small hill and climbs it and stands on top of it for a while just looking around and then she goes back down and returns to her hut and checks her farm again and now one piece of wheat is fully grown so she harvests it and replants the seed and then puts the wheat in her chest and closes it and then opens it again to look at it and then closes it again and then she stands in her hut for a while and does nothing then she digs out the floor and replaces it with cobblestone so it looks nicer then she adds a roof made of dirt even though it was already kind of covered before and then she decides to collect more wood so she walks back to the trees and chops them down one by one until her axe breaks then she goes back to her hut makes another axe and repeats this until she has a large amount of wood then she puts it all in her chest and stands there for a moment thinking about what to do with it but then decides not to build anything yet and just walks around a bit more then she sees a cow and slowly walks up to it and hits it once but then lets it walk away and follows it around for a while before getting bored and walking back to her hut again and standing on the roof this time to watch the sunset then she climbs down and goes inside and waits for the night to pass again and then when it is morning she goes out and chops even more trees and collects even more seeds and expands her farm slightly and then stands there waiting for the new seeds to grow again and nothing else happens for a long time until she finally logs off
>>104547193the last Pyropup liggerman humping Sinder's cinders- 2025 colorized
>>104547285nice burger
>>104547312Off topic.
>>104547330
>>104547341Her model is so shit now
Just got to sit down to watch my favourite Aussie cow and the entire stream went haywire
It's been a really long time since I was able to get this hammered- and you guys have not been making it easy recently- but I'm once again drunk enough that I like you guys again
>>104547374post penis
>>104547374minto sexo
>>104547316I've seen some of them on twitter still holding on like the Japanese holdouts
>>104547424not just on twitter
Sinder should be put down for good.
>>104547248
>>104547441
I love Milky!
Bwah!
>>104547451
nobody ever liked sinder
>>104547448Those tits can still be fucked anon
What if your oshi did a male collab but it was with the nostalgia critic
>>104547496I would KILL MYSELF
>>104547448she should embrace the bit and come back with full evil mommy dommy kayfabe
>>104547507based
>>104547496m-m-m-males? MALES??? I WOULD KILL MYSELF
>>104547478I liked Sinder
sisters...
>tired>watching the miwa vodwhat am i doing anons
>>104547529that's because you're a subhuman animal
Minto schedule. Beeg announcement and collab with Beri! Also Druids and Lego Indy!
>>104547563it's always merch
>>104547563why is the wisp always a horny little shit
A vtuber fan fiction/script:The scene is in the cinematic Parasi universe.In a dark empty market square Parasi is wandering at night searching through shipment containers that had just arrived hours before the sun set. Parasi: surely one of these containers has a pair of shoes I can wear. I've been in this city for a few days on business with the parasite, and nobody has offered me a pair of shoes I can wear. There is simply no sense of fashion in this city. That's when Parasi spotted them. A pair of boots that looked like they had been made entirely of rabbit hide cought her eye. Parasi: yes. These will do.Parasi inspected the boots for any creepy crawlies housed inside of them, and decided they were safe enough to slip on. Though as Parasi slipped on the boots she had found suddenly in her line of site appeared a mirror, and in the mirror was a Parasi who had monkey ears. Monkey ear Parasi: tonight you will be visited by three Parasi such as myself, and a normal girl. You will have to make a important decision about who you want to be after they show you who are, and who you could be. Choose wisely ooh ooh ah ah goo goo shinalah shinalay I'm so luckay luckay!The mirror shatters and Parasi takes a step back, and inspects the boots on her feet once more, but more carefully. To her they seem like ordinary quality rabbit leather boots, but for some reason strange things happened when she slipped them on. Parasi: I don't understand what could be going on, or what a ooh ooh ah ah goo goo shinalah shinalay I'm so luckay luckay could be be!Parasi feels a brisk chilly breeze pass, and on it was carried a pigion. The pigion lands on Parasi, and starts saying *cooh*. Parasi: What do you want pigion? Why are you visiting me on this strange night?Continue?I think vtuber plays like this could be fun to watch if performed inferno cop style with png resources. This will be my ritual post. Erm.
>>104547183https://files.catbox.moe/6jk1eq.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/84rf0o.jpg>>104547184https://files.catbox.moe/d4fnk3.jpg
cumming inside lululasso. cumming inside miwa. while lumi watches and craves me semen, but shes too old and i refuse to give her me seed
Read the comments on another SmugAlana video and now I'm wondering why do all the sane women have to be shut-in Vtubers or taken
ENOUGH
>>104547645based
thingken of yuy fupa
>>104547668This image makes me sad.
Blue today?
All right, you know the drill.Post it.
>>104547763Black people are violent with very poor impulse control.
>>104547782
Liggers for this feel?
>>104547842off topic
>>104547845this one, but its all fat. and there no guy, just pizza
>>104547785The least racist Yuyfag
>>104547854
>>104547845this is me and grimmi's poognant [poo pregnant] belly ready to birth our entire family onto my chest
>>104547880kill yourself projecting faggot
>>104547883I can see her nipples
>>104547883anon you cant post wissable nipples on a blue board
>>104547883i can see my penis
>>104547922you have a yummy penis
>>104547883nice
1.0 to 3.0
>>104547900Racism isn't cool, Yuyfag
>>104547935i hate filian, and i hate snackers more
>>104547955Damn, the face went through a downgrade each time.
>>104547965t.
>>104547984I can't believe there are people who watch anything on their phone without headphones
>>104547945I respect that clauvio is cuck positive, shes based
>>104547981
Riri won
if inis wasn't bpd or insane, i might like her. but instead im dragged into bed with my wife nina.
>>104548065Inis isn't not a BPDarling or insane, she's just a little broken.
>>104547975Anon, it's from right to left...
>>104548091You take that back
>>104548091>isn't notFeel free to shoot me.
>>104548104NTA but who the fuck orders it like that
>>104548131japanese
>>104548131this is a japanese thread dayo
WOAH
>>104548150Show cunny Henya.
>>104548091uhh, anon. she isn't without a husband for a good reason. she has a sexo body, has wild personality, but shes a demon in disguise
Layna please kill me
>>104548210What a perfect world
>>104548254horny kitty
When people say "x vtuber won", what did they win?
>>104548165PINK THING WATCH OUT YOU MIGHT DESTROY THE VEHICLE
>>104548181>but shes a demon in disguiseSo you actually are her uncle that tried to kill her when she was young.
>>104548277Super rape
>>104548277vtubing?
>>104548293how does super rape differ from normal rape
>>104548277whatever controversy/drama they were a part of at some point in time
>>104548315You eat Popeye's spinach before you go to town.
>>104548091Nah, she's got BPD or something adjacent, she's mentioned it at least once. She talks about how nurse era was when she lost access to her meds for various reasons and went off the rails a bit, and really hates herself from that time.
>>104548277meat won
>>104548210hello saar
>>104547424They held a birthday celebration on discord yesterday
>I made a post in the doob general after we lost divegrass against them last night>not even 20 posts have been made there since thenHoly shit. Is their thread really just 3 guys or something?
If liggerman is so strong why is he such a bitch
>>104548438How would I know?
>>104548438/wvt/ is in a pretty sad state too
>>104548438Did you check the tower. Outside #fags the tower is where 90%+ of imageboard holoposting (and exholo) happens now
I hope a really strong liggerman rips Layna's limbs off and makes her his nugget
>>104548464Does tower participate in divegrass? I mean it's /vt/ league and not tower league.
>>104547880Rent free
>>104548343Hating previous content from times when you felt different is a very normal thing for Vtubers. You could probably ask every single one of them, and they could point out periods of time that they are ashamed of.Not owning up to your past mistakes is the mark of a rookie
Here's some survey questions for you to answer. No guarantee any of it will be useful, but if you fill it out then good for you.Who are some vtubers that you watch?What are your favorite types of streams? Have you ever watched a art stream? What did you think about it? Do you prefer anime style, new grounds style, or tumblr style avatars? Would you ever want to voice call a vtuber? Would you ever want to play a game with a vtuber? Would you use channel points more often if vtubers hosted channel points predictions? How likely are you to rewatch a vod you've already seen? How likely are you to link a vod you've watched? Do you link twitch clips? Have you ever been banned from a vtuber?
why is it that sooner or later every online community turns into a diaspora spread across a kuiper belt of weird ass offsites
>>104548516gatorschizo coded post
…
KILL EACH OTHERKILL EACH OTHER
>>104548516what the fuck is a kuiper belt
https://www.twitch.tv/snuffy/clip/SquareSpikyGarageBrainSlug-XrqYvY06bIPi_fq9Have a rare clip of snuffy from before she joined 3am.
God I can’t wait for her to play the starforce collection and just be blatant shotacon for lan all the way through (positive)
>>104548551i'm sorry sometimes my posts require you to know things in order to understand them
I wish to sniff my swedish sisterfriend mysko
>>104548583sassy ass femanon coded post
https://www.twitch.tv/rayrabenstein/clip/LightHeartlessApeFUNgineer-Ybrv2sSWUrZ0tbJFA rare vampire clip.
>>104548490Not sure myself honestly since i never stayed at the tower after the first week
>>104548614the kuiper belt is a distant and cold shell of asteroids beyond neptune that surrounds our solar system. so like /vt/ has already been spread out to all sorts of weird boards like that. there. are you happy, faggot? are you glad? knowledge has been nonconsensually injected into your brain stem
>>104548277they got my seed in their womb is what they mean
we need a list of liggers who do not shower every day. the list so far is:pillowmyskoany body else?
https://www.twitch.tv/chromuchromu
>>104548661kiba
>>104548661NekrolinaShe told a story about how she was unpacking boxes from her move and could smell herself while squatting.
the thread is suddenly stinky
>>104548661Did Vivi get any better?
>>104548696being stinky while moving to a new place is pretty normal Anon>>104548661Lucy Anne Pyre
>>104548661dont space like that please. add grimmi, jets, beri, mint, koragi, miwa, lululasso and nino
Women are like>ew I'd never sell myself that's, disgusting>n-not that there's anything wrong with sex work, it's great that women can be independent like that! I know women who do it!
>>104548541
>>104548766I know at least one vtuber who is anti whore (literal)They obviously do not talk negatively about the lewdtubers, but they got a juicy exclusivity deal from Fansly and declined
>>104548766there is nothing wrong with this anon
>>104548838post your white girl pits femanon
>>104548438
>>104548858I am a hairy Italian man thank you very much
>>104548881no…
>>104548881PANKO MANKO
>>104548881post cock
>>104548881Mario...
>>104548583>>104548643rape correcting bratty femanons
>>104548881proof?
>>104548858nta but I agree with AnonThere is nothing wrong with having options. But I judge a chuubas character by their actions and if they go for the cashgrab or not.The ones who are picking the hard way (not like that) are the ones who I will gladly watch
>>104548661ParaShondo
>>104548881MOMMA MIA
>>104548881just for you
EW THIS THREAD STINKS EW TAKE A DAMN SHOWER
>>104548990I have a theory that the average liggerman has better hygiene than the average indie vtuber
>its 415amTAKE ME TO THE RIVER
>>104548976the vulva indentation ToT
>>104549015Always remember what DJ Clancy took from us by changing rule enforcement
>>104548976off topic
>>104549041manko is never off topic
>>104549041There's a lot of other off topic posts you missed, hall monitor
>>104549041actually shut the fuck up
>>104549058Then do your part.
>>104549041Janny applications are open you wannabe.
We are under a tack!
>>104548976panko seggs
I want to rape sameko saba's fish pussy (consensual) (she is an adult)
>>104549097Can I have some Tenma sex with that?
>>104548720you don't get coochie stank from moving
>>104549110
>>104549041actually that's a vtuber
>>104549118Come on now Anon, everyone has a stinky arc sometimes. You get to a new place, you still haven't put up your bed. Your clothes are still in boxes. I think that it is pretty reasonable
imagine larping as a hall monitor when maid applications are literally openlmao embarrassing
>>104548888>>104548902>>104548909>>104548915>>104548949>>104548976>>104548925lmfao, love you guys
lmao he did NOT like being called a wannabe
>>104549168love you too ita anon lets eat some pizza together
he really wants me specifically to jerk off to saba
>>104549162you can still shower, no? i would love to sniff her stinky macaroon
>>104548661Easier to assume most vtubers don't shower everyday
tits on sinuuki stream
She seems a bit down lately, I hope it’s nothing serious.
>>104549162bitch you live like this??
>deleted alreadyI won't forget to tip the janny
>>104549254I didn't shower during my last move either and just fell onto the floor when the day was over.When a Vtuber doesn't shower for 3-4 days during her daily routine, that is fine. But when you sweat a lot from physical activity, things escalate quickly
>>104549287>latelyI don't think i've ever heard kuu-talk that didn't include her being depressed.
>>104549292yes
https://www.twitch.tv/sinuuki/clip/ElatedWittyBeanBibleThump-2LkOFeXJE2M4jCgd
I haven't gone more than 2 days without showering in 20 years
>>104549333That’s strange considering she’s super high energy and always giggly on every stream
>>104549367most Vtubers basically live like an unemployed person
>shondo says whether or not the nazis are the good or bad guys in a story depends on your perspective>people freak out and say she's baitingAbsolute state
sinuuki the gooner
>>104549367i regularly go weeks without showering because im hikineet
>>104549287she took the vesper news heavy and there’s some irl drama with her biological family going on so I think she’s just a bit exhausted
>>104549398she right
Essie schedule for da week!
thinking bout grimmi
>>104549419erm
>>104549437>sheepy dead spacebased
>>104549437>picI want to cuddlesex and kiss her all overSo cute
>>104549404I don't like the way my skin feels if I don't shower for more than a day
Are we nazis?
>>104549539who is we, motherfuckerwho is we
>>104549539No, we're BATS!
>>104549539no but we are japanese imperialisrts. korean women are our property.
>>104549539No we are communists.
>>104549398where was this said?
>>104549539I was but Spite cured me. Those liggerwoman pictures that she tweets cured my yellow fever.
>>104549539um I'm chinese
I get mad when people try to stick labels on people and associate them with stupid shit. I support centrally planned economies because I'm a dwarf fortress autist, not because I want to build gulags for kirscheposters
>>104549398You do realize that both of these statements can be true, right?
I love batposters so much
>>104549607>I support centrally planned economiesfilthy corpo lover go back to pcg
>>104549539>weaa Japaniizu goburin!Du yuu habu kei no takatobi oni goroshiAi amu eeto Japaniizu goburinAka ao kiiro no onizu ando moaHai bibitto shatoruuzu guriin oniSekushii midiamu baioretto oniMurasaki dai dai shakunage oniRa ra ra ieru kana tunai hyakkiyagyouHai tenshon Japaniizu goburinDoranku happii don don heberekeAi amu eeto Japaniizu goburinRetsu goo tsukimi da utae ya sawage yaFuroshiki tsutsunde sharu uii nan charaHito mo ayakashi mo shaku ni hoshi ukabeKuru shuu nai zo kuru shuu nai zoBureiku auto de bureikouWii aa Japaniizu goburin!Du yuu habu kei no takatobi oni goroshiAi amu eeto Japaniizu goburinAka ao kiiro no onizu ando moaHai bibitto shatoruuzu guriin oniSekushii midiamu baioretto oniMurasaki dai dai shakunage oniRa ra ra ieru kana tunai hyakkiyagyouHai tenshon Japaniizu goburinDoranku happii don don heberekeAi amu eeto Japaniizu goburinRetsu goo tsukimi da utae ya sawage yaFuroshiki tsutsunde sharu uii nan charaHito mo ayakashi mo shaku ni hoshi ukabeKuru shuu nai zo kuru shuu nai zoBureiku auto de bureikou
lig be like
>>104549580On stream when Nina was talking about nazis being the good guys
>>104549497>>104549562can't make this shit up
>>104549615
I think that might be a misconstruction of nina's words
>>104548490/hlgg/, /amedoob/ and /same/ do but it's pretty low engagement in the splits
sending positive thoughts to batposters in appreciation for their joyous spirit they bring to this thread.
>>104549689Who would go on the internet and spread lies?
>>104549487im the opposite lol i hate how my skin feels with its natural oils washed off
>>104549715Stomping miias flower
>>104549715cute miioid
>>104549723SHOW TEEF
>>104548492Her old model was cuter but I will still watch her when she phases in.
>>104549715thanks miioidi dont have a flower but you can have these meds
>>104549539Not me, nazis are kinda rude
>>104549715
>>104549539no im a strasserite
>>104549674Sometimes I wonder why vex isn’t talked about in da liggy when other mommy chuubas like milky are and then I just see something like this and go “oh yeah that’s why”
what do i jack off to while waiting for chromu to stop watching this normslop
uuu
>>104549842cuckling
>>104549839Memory cosplay
>>104549832/lig/ seems to hate talking about lewdtubers other than Ally
My shondo sub expired and I'm struggling deciding if I should resub or not.
Oh Juni started playing Silksong. That is a game that would make her make a lot of funny noses like Rainworld did
>>104549890just resub the next time you want to use it
>>104549890Simple: If you watch her enough to be annoyed by ads AND want to support her because you like her than resub.If you just get annoyed by ads and watch all kinds of chuubas, get Turbo.If you just watch her and hate adds, sub with prime.
>>104549842She is looking at pictures of yooooou
>>104549918>having prime
>>104549918I haven't gotten ads on twitch in years
jerking off to laimu rn
>>104547842Good post. We like Lumi here.
>>104549981can i watch
>>104549674>crosslinking /#/eww i spit on you
>chat has to backseat Sinuuki into replacing her fucking double barrel shotgun with a SaigaRotten zombie brain.
>>104550063she is incredibly stupid from everything ive seengood thing you dont need a brain to be successful at vtubing kek
I know that Merch right now is extremely weird because of global happenings, but I am playing with the thought of opening a Vtuber merch company.My plan is to contact vtubers, offer small merch items that are cheap to produce, pay for bulk orders upfront and then make profit on sales.Do you think that this is a realistic option?I do logistics and sales for a living, so I am not a complete noob. And watching vtubers thumble merch makes me cringe every time.
>>104550063cute lol. is she an airhead? I love airheads.
OwO
>>104550091less an airhead and more outright retarded imo
grimmi should be fat
>>104550108be nise
>>104550098
>>104550098I do not approve of this TERRORIST term in my /lig/
>>104550115retarded (affectionate) anon, relax
>>104550152*notices buldge*
>>104550163sorry I'm retarded
>>104549674It's kinda interesting seeing stuff like that and those discord saplings who declared themselves the defenders of Nimi's anonymous husband. It's like being so eager to show how not parasocial you are for the woman you end up going full circle and semi-ironically becoming creepily parasocial for the husband instead
>>104550175I honestly think that most "parasocial creeps" have good intentions and just want their oshi to succeed and be happy, but they are too immature or autistic to emphasize with how their oshis might perceive their behavior.