Holoshop is killing paypal
>>104589284A well-deserved death.
>>104589284based
>>104589284It's really not enough for Japanese companies to remove their Paypal and Visa/Mastercard integration. They need to push more for alternatives.
>>104589284What is the reason? And why are people ITT celebrating less options? Or is it because somehow paypal was trying to dictate to them what they could put in their store?
At this point, just better sell only in Japan.
>>104589960I assume you live in Japan
>>104589937It's triggered antifa mad that PayPal is owned by one the most successful and influential entrepreneurs in American history. Nothin' more nothin' less.
I honestly don't understand the removal of paypal. It has always been a pretty widely accepted payment portal. Does anyone have a QRD on why paypal is being chopped?
>>104589937>somehowThey process paymentsIf they tell you "we won't process your payments unless you follow our orders" you have very few options
>>104589937Paypal can fuck you over for no reason simply because they feel like itDidn't the whole thing about visa etc pressuring steam to remove games they don't like also involving paypal?At any moment Paypal could go "nope, that plushie is too UOH for us, your whole site is blacklisted" and there would be nothing they could do about it
>>104589986Thiel hasn't owned any paypal stock since ebay bought it in 2002. Paypal is notoriously shitty and woke. Remember them trying to fine people for 'misinformation'?https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/paypals-misinformation-fine-sparks-backlash
>>104589937Basically the alternative would have been to keep paypal and give into whatever bullshit TOS demands they are trying to enforce now to control japanese companies under threat of financial instability.From what I hear since Japan has been dealing with stuff like this for years now they're preparing their own system for handling payments domestically so they aren't beholden to foreign businessmen to stay afloat.
>>104589986What the fuck are you on about /pol/monkey?
>>104590007PayPal hate anime and Japan
>>104589476BuPay. Now's your time to shine.
>>104590163I've used paypal for payments with japanese vendors both on ebay and individually run sites for decades. This is news to me.
>>104590029Well the holoshop already just did what paypal would've done preemptively...and not use them at their store.>>104590131>>104590075So has Paypal done this to the holoshop yet, because currently these posts just read like hypotheticals. Someone has to process payments from the US to Japan to buy this stuff and you're either going Visa, Mastercard or Paypal as the main options. Is there some weird shady animu friendly payment processor I don't know about?
>>104590212>Someone has to process payments from the US to Japan to buy this stuffThat's the beauty of it: Nobody has to.What are you gonna do? Set up a competitor? Good fuckin' luck with that, lmao.Bow to your corporate overlords or suffer, lmao.
>>104590212>>104590165
>>104590212Paypal didnt do it to the holoshop yet which is why holo dropped them. If Holo didnt then you would have seen something like Steam where suddenly games are removed that were fine before and you are still able to use Paypal, now with the added pressure on devs to not get their own game removed due to some mysterious set of standards they don't disclose.
Everyone in this thread is fucking retarded. Yes Paypal sucks and does a lot of retarded things, but in what fucking world is some shit like a standee of goddamn Miko going to cause Paypal to stop doing business with Cover? Cover doesn't deal in edgy products or potentially TOS-breaking stuff.
>>104590333Nobody deals in "edgy products or potentially TOS-breaking stuff" until Paypal, Visa and/or Mastercard decide otherwise.You're the only retard here.
>>104589960based
Are they dropping visa and mastercard as well or is this entirely meaningless and people are celebrating nothing?
>>104590333its not a standee of Miko that paypall would have an issue with, its a standee of matsuri suisei kanade towa laplus biboo or gigi that they would have an issue with.
>>104590333Do you remember what Miko said when she played GTASA? I hope you do, because in any western country she would've been canceled immediately for saying such a thing
>>104590470and she wasn't what's you are point?
>>104590470>gtasamiko never played san andreas you retarded fagshe said nigger playing gta V
>>104590546All it would take is a payment processor learning about that to tell hololive to remove all her merch
>>104590333actually anon, you know how that Okayu visual novel was delayed for a bit on its steam release? Guess what visual novel was also sold on holoshop? It would just take Paypal/Visa/Mastercard deciding that the Okayu visual novel was promoting immoral behavior via beastality and then holo products are in jeopardy
>>104590134Retard.
Pretty sad that people defend shitpal when they can just steal all your money if they feel like it
>>104590333>>104590546>you guys worry about russian roulette too much, look i pulled the trigger and didn't brain myself
>>104590638They wouldn't be you just cut ties with payment processors that are retarded it's that simple chime doesn't do this sorta shit.
>>104590212Paypal was bannig and fining people for "misinformation" and other shit during the previous administration. They thought being a moral police and levying financial fees to their customers was doing the "right thing." LMAO. They were also banning porn/hentai shit along with visa/mastercard shit that the western companies started doing. So friendly payment processor would have to be a different company
>>104590620and they havent done that already be cause?
>>104589284With how Visa, Mastercard and Paypal have been acting recently, I am not surprised that they tried to come after Hololive and Cover decided to cut them off pre-emptively.
I first I thought this was a bad thing but after reading through the thread, it sounds like it's for the better. I've been out of the loop on the paypal shit. Fuck them if they're trying to control what these Japanese companies are trying to sell
>>104590075Paypal was the OG of that shit, they've been withholding funds indefinitely and refusing to process payments for variously dubious reasons for literally 20 years. It's amazing they're still in business considering how much worse Paypal was to deal with compared to just using a credit card.
>>104590333Paypal don't NEED a reasonable justification to block payments, they can do it for any reason at all. That's what Cover is concerned about.
so, how are people going to pay for merch now?
>>104591357with my credit card? and if they block my credit card then I will get a different credit card and deactivate my current card.
>>104591679what happens after you deactivate your credit card? it's impossible to stay away from Visa and Mastercard.
>>104589986This is retarded but the idea of vieux riche stomping down the nouveau riche is nothing new. With how retarded our currently timeline is, who knows, it might just be what's happening behind all the pol charade.
>>104591924then I continue using the credit card I will have after I get it, did you not read the entire post?
>>104590776Because they don't know about it
>>104591924not that anon but I've got AMEX.
What kind of idiot uses fucking PayPal in 2025 lmao
>>104589986libshits are so fucking deranged man holy shit they're walking mental asylums
Is Paypal acting on a power trip like Visa and Mastercard? If yes, then Cover probably got notified by Paypal to stop selling some items and decided to deny them the chance of that in advance instead of getting censored.
>>104589986Paypal brought it on themselves by playing politics and illegally freezing people's accounts to steal money when they thought they could get away with it
>>104589284More like holoslop am I right?
why are you giving money to holo in the first place? they're also le evil companyyou would die if you couldn't consume products from evil companies
>>104590075I mean sure Paypal has rules about selling porn and adult stuff.. I really fucking don't think some plush or a little acrylic of default pose mori counts as such however. They could have kept doing their thing and been fine I am pretty sure.You would think Holoshop would actually be pretty valued by them because they are a business that sells stuff overseas in high volume requiring currency transactions - converting currency aka turning your dollars to yen is one of the primary ways Paypal makes its money. If it is some outsider group interfering like collective shit or something I don't see how the can gather any evidence at all that cover is selling anything even fucking close to breaking PayPal ToS.
>>104589986>MAGA now means worshipping a gay pedophile kraut who wants AI to exterminate humanity
>>104594240Hololive is unfortunately the only good company
>>104590358this was the best possible response
>>104594240Holo is significantly less evil than the payment processor oligarchy
>sisters are unironically defending a multi-billion market cap company>a payment processor that is skimming money off the top>because holo bad and evilkek they don't even stop to think about their position
That's what they get for being degenerate with their coomer garbage I hope this finally makes Hololive improve
>>104589284Good, payment processors are shit and deserves death.
>>104593540stealing money from customers is how paypal made it through the lean early days. total scum company
>>104598134Most of their wealth came from being a money laundering front and outright robbing customers.Total scumbag company since day one that shouldn't have been allowed to continue operating.
The results of this are going to look so funny in future quarterly reports.
>>104590584oh so the libs are lyingtypical
>>104600181All those poorfags, suffering from being unable to pay in installments to keep their rent paid and holomerch...
>>104590029This. They just want to be dicks these days
bought some otomo socks via paypal! ugh why do i have to use credit cards in the future? are they not the companies censoring stuff?
>>104594621The Ubermensch kickstarted eugenics as we know it.
>>104589986conservatism is when you worship foreigners who bought a role in the executive branch?
>>104600932paypal been censoring way longer than visa/mastercard did.
>>104589284Not my pal for sure
>>104589284goodsmile also removed signing in with google, what happened?
>>104589937have you been living under a rock? payment processors are openly censoring even non-pornographic content now
>>104590163stop noticing
>>104589284It's not like I can afford to buy merch anymore anyway, even before the tariffs there were already items I had to pass on because of their exorbitant shipping fees
>he doesnt have jcb credit cardngmi
>>104590333>buy Laplus merch>John Paypal orders an air strike on your house, your families houses and place of work when you're outside.
>>104590470I remember that one time some retard came here from 5ch (I think?) to try make us hate Hololive because they were "really racist", and the whole thread was pretty much just variations of "based" and there were discussions in their threads so confused and trying to figure out what the word meant kek
>>104590007The real reason is the ability to dispute transactions by claiming you didn't receive the shipment or whatever. It creates a lot of work and fees for the vendors and the vast majority are just bogus. The number of chargebacks aka friendly fraud with cars, in contrast, has decreased drastically in this space due to tech like 3DPD Secure, confirming payments in app etc. because the payment processors and banks themselves also don't want the burden these cases create. Ofc cards have their own evils, but PayPal is the gold standard of quasi-legal fraud, and they have no reason to change because they just charge vendors for the privilege of getting scammed out of their merchandise while having to pay for it.
>>104594565You're so stupid it hurts.
>>104613724At least it’s easier to get money back on paypal compare to cc
i cant believe all these companies are so shit im actually wondering if its time to move to bitcoin
>>104589476Every online store should accept ACH. It's a direct bank-to-bank transfer, usually has zero fees whatsoever, damn near impossible for some intermediary to jump in and interfere in the process and start demanding content changes. No need to build some new intermediary of your own for this.
>>104616044I considered bitcoin exactly because of this whole mastercard visa horseshit.
>>104589284Good
>>104616044Cant use crypto for 99.9% of the transactions you want to do.
>>104616044Good fucking luck with that. I tried to set up crypto payments through Shopify, and the results were pretty dire. See https://memebars.com/blogs/showerthoughts/we-take-cryptocurrency-but-probably-the-wrong-ones for the grisly details on that front.
>>104589476JCBbros and AmExbros, it's our time to shine
>>104589284I voted for this...
>>104589284I keep reading holoslop instead of holoshop
>>104624038time to get glasses.
>>104589284Isn't the US making a new law where these payment processor companies can't debank people because they were mad the right wing fags are mad the left wing fags did that to them or something? Any progress on that?>>104616044Never going to happen. Crypto currency will never be treated like an actual currency because crypto bros won't stop treating it like stocks
>>104589284oh no anyway
>>104623482Die
>>104627428crypto was dead the moment the same financial institutions it was meant to subvert centralized them
>>104623482If it makes you feel better, just remember...you won.
